5:01 pm November 21, 2009, by Jay
Another big step cleared, apparently.
Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (Nev.) appears to have secured the 60 votes needed to move an $848 billion health-care reform bill to the Senate floor for debate.
After days of indecision, Sen. Blanche Lincoln (Ark.) — the final Democratic holdout — announced Saturday afternoon that she has decided to support a procedural motion to break a GOP filibuster. Reid now expects all 60 members of his caucus to vote yes at 8 p.m. Saturday, clearing the way for amendment deliberations to begin after the Thanksgiving recess….
Two other undecided Democrats, Sens. Ben Nelson (Neb.) and Mary Landrieu (La.), also announced their support in the final hours before the Saturday vote.
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November 22nd, 2009
3:47 pm
Colts 10-0.
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November 22nd, 2009
3:47 pm
502!
RW-(the original)
November 22nd, 2009
3:48 pm
josef 3:43,
?
getalife
November 22nd, 2009
3:54 pm
Moderator 47
josef 0
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November 22nd, 2009
3:54 pm
The Skins got 2:41 to drive the field and kick a field goal, ehhh, we’ll see.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
3:58 pm
RW–me and you BOTH at the top of the page…
getalife–
The Moderator will win every time! Don’t lay any bets on me…
getalife
November 22nd, 2009
4:00 pm
Keep fighting josef!
It ain’t ova!
getalife
November 22nd, 2009
4:00 pm
Ravens need a field goal to win.
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November 22nd, 2009
4:02 pm
The Giants are disgraceful.
RW-(the original)
November 22nd, 2009
4:13 pm
The Falcons are disgraceful.
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November 22nd, 2009
4:16 pm
Throwing passes when they are in field goal range, yeesh, the Giants are trying to give this away.
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November 22nd, 2009
4:17 pm
The Giants have redeemed themselves.
And me too.
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November 22nd, 2009
4:18 pm
Look at KC putting one on the mighty Steelers.
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November 22nd, 2009
4:19 pm
I’m pretty sure that bookman just wretched.
Dusty
November 22nd, 2009
4:22 pm
Well, so much going on in this blog since the topic started. I don’t do the music thing or the football thing so I skip a lot. But..
Josef, do you fact check books, manuscripts or what? Your International Day must have been exciting. Facing the joys, customs and personalities of unfamiliar others is like drinking bubbly champayne. Gives an amazing good lift everytime.. I love that sort of thing.
Anyway, church was fine today. EXCEPT I arived looking like a bag lady. As the rain poured, I tried to get several bags of canned goods for the food box,(cans were on sale) out of the trunk of my car. As my hair dribbled into disaster, a can broke loose and rolled under the car. So here I am at the front door of the church, kicking cans under the car in the rain and feeling like saying most unrighteous things. But I made it, dripping like a Medusa can-carrying momma. At least they did not take up an offering for me. Probably said a prayer though. My life’s “exciting” moments are not high test as you see.
Well, I don’t have any extraordinary opinions here except I do like cornbread dressing, states rights, women’s rights , the right to rights, etc. etc. I still think George Bush was a fine president. I’m not sure who is whom in double IDs here. Taxpayer and Doggone seem to be missing. The “moderator machine ” here is mad so I blame Bookman who is captain of the ship, man of the house, etc. Remember the day I got moderated about four times in a row until Jay “admonished” the modie.?
Well, a note to REDNECK CONVERT who mentioned my rehab/renovation moments of the past..
I’d love to help you rehab your trailer, RedNeck, if you will remove the pink flamingos, the oil cloth table cover, the shower curtain drapes, the painting of Elvis on black velvet, the coffee can flower pots and the camode with flowers on the front lawn. Deal??
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
4:43 pm
DUSTY
Great to hear from you! Church sounds like an adventure today, but look on the bright side…you were doing the right thing. Just keep saying like Unmentionable does, “at least the reservoirs are filling up.” I was complaining about how much of the wet stuff we got this fall and that still voice came from upstairs, “…so, make up your mind, you want it rain or not?”
The fact checks come from various sources. Most are articles and ever so often a book will come through. Sometimes it’s interesting, but mostly fairly boring. I also double check translations and do some myself. I only do from the original to English. Those range from the technical to the literary. I’ve been at it for several years and have my clientele established. The income makes it possible for me to work in the schools, so I don’t complain. The computer age has made it much easier.
As for the evil Moderator false G-d, I keep telling Jay that even if he’s not the guilty party, it’s his name being sullied. The AJC ought to be ashamed, though. It’s just plumb silly when something like mine today goes into moderation and on, of all topics, censorship, yet I can call and get called every name in the book in the most scurrilous of fashions, and it sails right on by. Go figure.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 22nd, 2009
5:05 pm
Well, tell Sister Dusty I except her offer. She can start now. All my teams already lost. Including my beloved Dawgs and even UGA VII. Looks like they’re headed for the Weedwacker Bowl and a tour of lovely Shrevesport to watch the shrimp boats come in.
Have a good night everybody.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
5:10 pm
Redneck–
What shrimpboats in Sherveport? Somebody’s joshin’ you…
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
5:10 pm
Redneck–
What shrimpboats in Sherveport? Somebody’s joshin’ you…
Pogo
November 22nd, 2009
5:11 pm
“Redneck” sits and makes fodder for his sad humour out of the fact that Landreau sold her vote for 300 million of the us taxpayers dollars. Never mind about what she thought was right, it was the money that won out in the end. Her state has already blew billions in Katrina relief dollars and the people and the state are still screwed up. You’re proud of that “Neck”? Have you been to New Orleans recently Neck? It is a sad looking place and it isn’t because money wasn’t available. It is because the money that was provided has been squandered by corrupt politicians at the City and State level. You are as low as many of here already thought you were.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
5:12 pm
See that? Won’t let me past the moderator on something of substance, but a horsesh*t comment to Redneck gets a double post! Go figure…
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
5:17 pm
Pogo–My heart and soul are in New Orleans, they’re “my people,” too, but fact is, Louisiana is a Third World, banana republic. So long as the port is open, the oil is flowing and the colorful natives singing and dancing and cooking for the tourists, the rest of the country couldn’t give a sh*t about Uncle Sam’s red-headed colonial backwater stepchild…been that way since 1803 and doesn’t appear to ever be going to change…
RW-(the original)
November 22nd, 2009
5:18 pm
josef,
Maybe the moderator is trying to make things up to you.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
5:25 pm
RW–
Either that or it figures Redneck has to read things at least twice…
Angry Black Man
November 22nd, 2009
5:41 pm
Geez Pogo, tell us how you really feel. Sometimes, I think y’all take RC way, way too seriously.
RW-(the original)
November 22nd, 2009
5:43 pm
Well dammeet! I was wondering why josef wouldn’t answer my scholastic question at 5:30 and just noticed it’s in moderation jail.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
5:46 pm
RW…so what was your question?
Angry Black Man
November 22nd, 2009
5:46 pm
We have an unsportsmanlike conduct, illegal use of the english language… against RW. 15 min penalty, repeat the post.
RW-(the original)
November 22nd, 2009
5:48 pm
Oh wait….I think I’ve found it..a repeat of my 5:30 with the r word changed to absurd…
Redneck can read???
Question for ya josef,
I just ran across this in the print AJC.
The writer asks……is anyone getting sick of hearing the phrase “Southern farm to table”?…. just like that with the question mark outside the quotation mark. I’ve always thought it went inside, but it looks absurd either way. Which is it?
RW-(the original)
November 22nd, 2009
5:49 pm
Now that’s just r-i-d-i-c-u-l-o-u-s
RW-(the original)
November 22nd, 2009
5:50 pm
ABM,
I think it was the late hit I put on the moderator.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
5:51 pm
ABM–
On RC…when I first came around, I wasn’t sure how to take him…he’s got a good shtick (still hasn’t got the language downpat, but he’s getting better), Like a lot of those who ain’t really one of us, he can rub me the wrong way from time to time, but still and all it’s all meant in good fun..I think!
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
5:55 pm
RW–you’re right on both counts…the question mark goes inside the quote. Also it IS the R word, but, know what? Jay can use it and he hasn’t responded yet to the challenge on that one…he can call us the R word, but we can’t call him that…now ain’t that just some liberal hypocracy for you?
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November 22nd, 2009
5:56 pm
I was hoping to get out tonight and deny some woman her full personhood, with me being a ultra right wing extremist and all, because it kinda sounds like fun.
Just one question, how do you do it?
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November 22nd, 2009
5:59 pm
As one of the Senate most liberal members, Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), told POLITICO’s The Arena: “I have made it clear to the administration and Democratic leadership that my vote for the final bill is by no means guaranteed.”-Politico
Translation= A couple hundred million ought to do it.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
5:59 pm
Whiner…
“Just one question, how do you do it?”
Just tell her you’re gay but might could change for the right woman…straight men, I understand, use that one a lot with success…
RW-(the original)
November 22nd, 2009
6:01 pm
I was hoping to get out tonight and deny some woman her full personhood
A few years ago it was by holding the door for her.
Common Sense
November 22nd, 2009
6:08 pm
Hummmmmm ………………………
http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/money_watch/dpg-Is-Anyone-Reading-Newspapers-Anymore-mb-200911221258929921062
Angry Black Man
November 22nd, 2009
6:18 pm
RW
That will get you 15 too!
josef
I just laugh. I think that we sometimes take life too seriously. I’ve learned that sometimes laughing is a lot less stressful than being upset about something. That, and the fact that getting upset over an anonymous poster doesn’t do much good anyway.
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November 22nd, 2009
6:20 pm
There’s also the peril of prolonged U.S. budget deficits. We’re talking about the long-term financial deterioration of the United States. Look at the Fed’s total net borrowing and lending in credit markets. The numbers of the domestic nonfinancial sector are down by over a trillion dollars; the private sector is deleveraging.
Meanwhile, the public sector–state, local and national governments–are adding debt. What does it mean if the U.S. loses its triple-A credit rating next year? Or if its $12 trillion in outstanding government securities become rated “junk bonds.”-Forbes
This^^ comes under the headline Don’t Be A Sucker, Take Your Gains.
Look out below!!!
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
6:23 pm
ABM
Me, too, usually…and hereabouts is always good for a chuckle…here and the mirror…
Common Sense–
The newspapers got uppity and full of themselves. Now they’re paying the price. And that’s a good thing…
Common Sense
November 22nd, 2009
6:33 pm
To josef nix:
I’m old school. I remember when there was a Journal (evening and conservative) and a Constitution (morning and liberal).
I’ll miss the newspapers ………….. end of an era.
Angry Black Man
November 22nd, 2009
6:36 pm
Common Sense
That’s what we get for living in an instant, by the minute society. I still enjoy reading the paper. There’s usually a few good stories that get buried under the headlines. I don’t subscribe because, by the time I’m able to read a paper, half the day is gone and I’ve usually already seen the major stories online.
Angry Black Man
November 22nd, 2009
6:49 pm
josef
I quit looking in the mirror a long time ago.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
6:57 pm
common sense, ABM
I’m from the old school. I grew up in a newspaper. Wonderful old curmudgeons out to disillusion me and still fighting the good fight themselves. Knew all the low down on the high ups and the stories they told! Vicious with a blue pen. What I truly miss are the local interest feature stories with no agenda other than a good read about colorful locals, the odd, strange and curious and such things as why those traffic signals are hanging upside down or why the Magnolia State’s office tower is decorated with sunflowers…
Angry Black Man
November 22nd, 2009
7:10 pm
josef
When the powers that be decided to focus more on ideologies instead of those local interest stories, I believe that started the downward spiral. Add that to the instant access, on-the-minute need that’s supplied by the internet, and you have a recipe for the end of the printed news.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
7:11 pm
Then and now…
We had a state editor who was, put mildly, a tight a**, who didn’t cotton to hijinks. In those days there were “stringers” out in the rural areas who would call in stories and, most importantly, obituaries. These latter were delegated to us young whippersnappers. The only time I ever heard him laugh was one night when we got a call from a stringer who said, “all I’m going to do is give you the facts…do with it what you will…” Turns out the deceased who weighed over 400 pounds had crashed through the johnny house and met her end…when my fellow young turk and I took to laughing we were called to task and given a dressing down on how we were supposed to treat the obits with respect…we gave him the notes and after a good chuckle ordered us to write it as “a straight obit.” We did, though, have our fun as everybody in the newsroom penned his or her own version of the story. The woman’s name was very German and the winner was a “straight news” story about a Scheisshausen accident…
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
7:12 pm
oops…that was then, now, of course, there would be a page one story complete with trailer park references and interviews with and pictures of the grieving survivors…
Old Retired English Professor
November 22nd, 2009
7:15 pm
RW–you’re right on both counts…the question mark goes inside the quote.
I beg to differ. You aren’t asking “. . . from southern farm to table?” Rather, the quote is the “southern farm to table” and the person citing the phrase is asking the question. Therefore, the phrase quoted is not the question.
But then, I’ve been in the English business for only 50 years or so. Usage could have changed considerably since my time.
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November 22nd, 2009
7:17 pm
Da Raiders!
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
7:20 pm
ABM–
I agree with you on that…the instant gratification is certainly at work, but I say that it was the ideological…an old editor of mine claims it started with Watergate and Woodward and Bernstein becoming celebreties. A profession which had previously been anything but, now became “glam,” and schools of journalism were more than happy to expand their enrollments to meet the demand, filling the slots with silly drag qu*ens out for their moment on stage, the actual story insignificant…
Sorry, Jay, but as product thereof you know it’s pretty much true,,,not that this is meant your direction. I think you’d have been one of those crusty old curmudgeons if you weren’t locked into the agenda riddled newsroom of today…
RW-(the original)
November 22nd, 2009
7:22 pm
josef,
Jimmie Johnson just won his fourth consecutive season championship in NASCAR. He also grew up in a trailer park. To me that sounds like a success story but I have a feeling the usual suspects would call it two strikes.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
7:24 pm
Old English teacher…
That point is well taken and I was taught to do as you. The rules apparantly have changed. I went looking before I answered answered and it seems that the new style is inside the quote marks.
RW-(the original)
November 22nd, 2009
7:24 pm
OREP,
That’s an explanation that actually sounds like it makes sense. Thanks.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
7:25 pm
Old English teacher…
That point is well taken and I was taught to do as you. The rules apparantly have changed. I went looking before I answered and it seems that the new style is inside the quote marks.
Common Sense
November 22nd, 2009
7:26 pm
AJC Headline: “Calling 911 But Where Are the Police?”
Citizens ……. prepare to defend yourselves …….. !!
http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/calling-911-but-where-208859.html
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
7:28 pm
OREP
Let me ask you one that’s had me in a quandry…should there be a comma before the conjunction in a coordinate clause?
Demming
November 22nd, 2009
7:31 pm
RW It takes 60 votes to end a filbuster . Thus the Dems(58) and 2 Independents who align themselves with the Dems must / did vote together to break the threatened Republican Fibilbuster . Get your facts straight!!
@@
November 22nd, 2009
7:35 pm
My friend’s husband was watching a football game. One team was wearing blue.
Good lourde….how many football games can be played on any given Sunday?
Old Retired English Professor
November 22nd, 2009
7:35 pm
Technically, the point is moot. The correct way to express words spoken of as words or phrases spoken of as phrases is to put them in italics, not quotation marks.
RW-(the original)
November 22nd, 2009
7:35 pm
Demming,
My facts are sound. No matter what the Republicans do they can’t filibuster without a Democrat or Independent joining them so it would be a Democrat or Independent filibuster with Republican support. Republicans simply don’t have the numbers to mount one.
Angry Black Man
November 22nd, 2009
7:41 pm
@@
Not enough, sometimes. LOL!!!
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
7:41 pm
OREP–
On italics…I was taught that in the newsroom where we had the capacity to switch to italics in typesetting. We’d type it in the newsroom straigt and then circle and note “itl” above it…
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November 22nd, 2009
7:45 pm
Common Sense- We don’t have to call the cops in Cobb County, they follow the hoodlums into the neighborhood.
Old Retired English Professor
November 22nd, 2009
7:48 pm
Let me ask you one that’s had me in a quandry…should there be a comma before the conjunction in a coordinate clause?
I’m not certain what you mean by a coordinate clause. There are independent clauses–those that could stand alone as complete sentences if not joined by a coordinating conjunction–and dependent clauses, which contain subject and predicate but cannot stand alone as complete sentences.
If you are asking whether two independent clauses joined by a coordinating conjunction shoult be separated by a comma before the coordinating conjunction, the answer is that it’s a matter of the writer’s preference and how much emphasis on readability you want to use. I tend to use the comma for the sake of readability. If you are asking whether two dependent clauses separated by a coordinating conjunction should be separated by a comma, the answer is never (however, when three dependent clauses are used in a series, the first one is always set off with a comma.) Independent clauses:
Correct: I’ll stick to my way of doing things, and I don’t care what others think.
Correct: I’ll stick to my way of doing things and I don’t care what others think.
Correct: I’ll pick you up when my car is ready and when you call me to let me know you’re ready.
Incorrect: I’ll pick you up when my car is ready, and when you call me to let me know you’re ready.
I’m sure I’ll dream of grading English composition papers tonight.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
7:54 pm
Common Sense
Thanks for the link…interesting read…
RW– @ 7:22
“…the usual suspects…”
It just slays me…and most of them are the ones who are the first to claim how open-minded they are and make the references when “championing” some knee-jerk cause as per the latest memo…
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 22nd, 2009
7:54 pm
I sure am glad I can just concentrate on speaking English. That way I don’t have to worry about punctuation, unless you consider a well placed cuss word as punctuation.
RW-(the original)
November 22nd, 2009
7:57 pm
unless you consider a well placed cuss word as punctuation
Hillbilly D,
That’s exactly what I consider punctuation in the spoken word department.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
7:57 pm
OREP–Oops…I meant to say independent coordinate clause! And thanks for the answer. The reason I ask is that it keeps popping up greenlined and there are places (like here!) where it just don’t look right to me…
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
8:00 pm
Hillbilly–didn’t yore momma teach you to speak in a soft voice and not to cuss?
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 22nd, 2009
8:02 pm
didn’t yore momma teach you to speak in a soft voice and not to cuss?
Yes she did but she can let one rip too when the situation calls for it, often when reprimanding me.
getalife
November 22nd, 2009
8:07 pm
HBO will follow the 4 time Champion up to the Daytona race.
Should be good stuff.
Curb Your Enthusiasm’s last episode was one of the funniest I have seen.
They are doing another finally of Seinfeld in the last episode of the season.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
8:07 pm
Hillbilly–
My mama used them very sparingly, but when need arose, she could fire off one with great effect and no further punctuation necessary! She was a master of the pun and the double entendre. To say it without actually “descending into the vulgar” was her metier….
@@
November 22nd, 2009
8:07 pm
I punctuate to please my sense of balance.
“Who likes football?” = Too weighted on the right side
“Who likes football”? = Nice and balanced. That big fat question mark isn’t on the see-saw. Just the “Who likes football”
RW-(the original)
November 22nd, 2009
8:09 pm
It just occurred to me that this has been the first civil discussion of punctuation in the history of the AJC blog world.
There’s usual been at least a few GFY’s by now. (That’s good for you Mr. Moderator………but not necessarily for the rest of us)
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 22nd, 2009
8:10 pm
@@
I take it neither version of that question would be answered in the affirmitive by you?
getalife
November 22nd, 2009
8:11 pm
I just type what I think and don’t worry about it.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
8:13 pm
On punctuation–Granddaddy used to claim that I wrote whatever it was and then took a handfull of punctuation marks and threw them in…he also used to tell me, “Jodie, “e” may be the most common letter in English orthography, but every word doesn’t have to have one…”
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
8:14 pm
getalife–
I don’t even go to the trouble of typing what I think–I just type!
@@
November 22nd, 2009
8:16 pm
Hillbilly Deluxe:
You would be right. I spent a couple of seasons watching football AND baseball. Caught the fever, I did. Followed both all the way to the playoffs. My teams lost.
Nothing else got done. Not housework, yardwork, laundry, or meals.
Time wasted.
Did you get my message down on the Mr. Whitey thread?
getalife
November 22nd, 2009
8:17 pm
josef,
You write well.
Do you watch Curb….. on HBO?
Old Retired English Professor
November 22nd, 2009
8:17 pm
OREP–Oops…I meant to say independent coordinate clause.
All that’s meant by the term coordinate is the expression of equality. Thus, an independent clause is coordinate to another independent clause. Similarly, two clauses, phrases, or words of equal rank are joined by a coordinating conjunction (and, or, etc.)However, a dependent clause is subordinate to an independent clause–a dependent clause can’t correctly exist in a sentence without an independent clause on which it hangs. However, two dependent clauses can be joined by a coordinating conjunction because they’re equal in rank, while an independent clause can never be linked to a dependent clause by a coordinating conjunction, since the two are not equal in rank.
In a sense, the use of coordinate to describe an independent clause is unnecessary, since the word is meaningless without a relationship to another independent clause.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
8:18 pm
@@
If you enjoyed yourself, it wasn’t time wasted.
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 22nd, 2009
8:19 pm
@@
Yes I did. Thank you. My puter has been acting up for about the last month but hopefully it’s repaired now. So far, so good.
@@
November 22nd, 2009
8:23 pm
Hillbilly Deluxe:
Do not despair…mine’s always acting up. I don’t think it’s the cornputer though, I think it’s the operator…ME!
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November 22nd, 2009
8:29 pm
Is it an appropriate time of the season for the Bears players to start ignoring the plays their “coaches” send in?
You know, they call the dreaded screen pass, you point to your helmet, hold your hands up and then throw the ball 50 yards down the field?
I wouldn’t be angry with them.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
8:30 pm
OREP
“In a sense, the use of coordinate to describe an independent clause is unnecessary, since the word is meaningless without a relationship to another independent clause.”
As my students would say, “I knew that!”
coordinate versus subordinate…Miz Lura Barnette is rolling over in her grave…magnificent old dowager who taught my mom, my dad, all my siblings, me and several nieces and nephews…
I’ll never forget learning the word “osmosis.” I was having fits with neither-nor, either-or…she whapped me on the head with the lit books and said, “well maybe you can learn it by osmosis,” handed me the dictionary and said, “go look it up.” She was the first teacher in the state to continue teaching while pregnant, her argument, “I teach biology, you idiots!” She taught the humanities, the sciences and mathematics all with equal skill and fervor and you were never sure just which class you were in, so skillfully she wove them together…
stands for decibels
November 22nd, 2009
8:30 pm
now, of course, there would be a page one story complete with trailer park references and interviews with and pictures of the grieving survivors…
I’m afraid you’re likely right, and I’m also afraid that’s one of those legitimate “things really were better in the old days” kinda tales.
Reminds me of a story I heard told about Pat Nixon who came across a gaggle of reporters who’d shown up at Dick Nixon’s house after he’d conceded in 1960, looking to get some more quotes. As I recall, she threw an (understandable) fit, blaming them for her husband’s bad fortune, that sort of thing.
Point of this story was, nobody in that gaggle went back and wrote about how Pat Nixon lost it. They just didn’t do that sort of thing back then.
For what it’s worth. I am not sure we’re not better overall for the trend toward anything goes, reporting-wise, but I hear about your outhouse tale and I figure it’s not all good.
Later, all.
Angry Black Man
November 22nd, 2009
8:33 pm
The only punctuation needed is a few well placed 3 and 4 letter words. They work like exclamation points and sometimes question marks when needed.
I didn’t realize Jimmy Johnson grew up in a trailer park. I though he was one of those good old California boys like Jeff Gordon. I still don’t like him or Chad Knaus. The 4 championships are good, but had he competed with Earnhardt, the Allisons, Richard Petty, and Bill Elliott when they were all in their prime, he’d be just another driver in the field. The sport has totally changed from the way it used to be.
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November 22nd, 2009
8:34 pm
The ex con tramples the defense….
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
8:39 pm
Okay…here it is BUT be warned, it’s not for the prudes…
http://www.jimpoz.com/jokes/word.html
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 22nd, 2009
8:39 pm
The sport has totally changed from the way it used to be.
Amen to that. Started watching in the 60’s but can barely watch them today. Too much show biz and not enough racing. For my money, Pearson is still the best driver who ever sat in a seat.
For what it’s worth. I am not sure we’re not better overall for the trend toward anything goes, reporting-wise
Agreed. I once read an interesting column, and don’t remember who wrote it, about the public’s right to know versus the public’s need to know.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
8:47 pm
“For what it’s worth. I am not sure we’re not better overall for the trend toward anything goes, reporting-wise”
Well, there’s news and there’s human interest…that’s what tabloids and scandal sheets are for…the problem is that newspapers have become tabloid scandal sheets but still want the respect previously afforded a newspaper…
Dusty
November 22nd, 2009
8:53 pm
Well, all this punctuation has totally unnerved me. I shall retreat to the e. e. cummings’ rules of punctuation: ex. nobody loses all the time
nobosy loses all the time
i had an uncle named
Sol who was a born failure and
nearly everybody said he should have gone
into vaudeville perhaps because my Uncle Sol could
sing McCann He was a Diver on Xmas Eve like Hell Itself which
may or may not account for the fact that my Uncle
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there is more but i leave you in suspense
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
8:57 pm
Dusty–
And then, of course, there’s James Joyce!
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November 22nd, 2009
8:57 pm
The Bears are down 10-0 and their next offensive play from the line of scrimmage will be a run up the middle for a loss of 1 yard, you watch.
And to think, our coach is a “defensive guru.”
Kinda like Obozo is “loved by the world.”
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November 22nd, 2009
8:58 pm
I’m wrong, it was a screen pass for 1 yard, woo hoo.
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
November 22nd, 2009
9:01 pm
The government has neither the brain power or base competence to work this (reference vaccines, mammograms, etc.). Talk to any doctor about Medicare. Doctors are not going to allow themselves to be turned into glorified automobile mechanics. Talk to any Canadian (most of whom buy insurance to be treated in the States if necessary). There is nothing in the Constitution which allows the government this power grab. Of course, that is also true of abortion, but that did not stop the clowns from doing it anyway. I believe we can go to Costa Rica, Italy, etc. for care, but if this passes, in the future, the well-equipped home will have a negative pressure room in the basement where you can sneak a competent doctor into your house in the middle of the night to save your life.
Dusty
November 22nd, 2009
9:06 pm
I believe the question of what to write for the news is now in question on the suicide attempt of Glenn Richardson.
He did not hide the fact that he tried to kill himself. I think that was enough.
Now we get all the information about how he did it. Who called who and what the paramedics found.
What next? The contents of his two suicide notes?
I think this is too much dabbling in private lives. A politician is still a human being (even though we express doubts at time).
TnGelding
November 22nd, 2009
9:09 pm
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
November 22nd, 2009
9:01 pm
The bills stink, but it’s the fear and paranoia that will kill the movement unless sanity is restored.