Democratic senators stay with Reid… so far
Another big step cleared, apparently.
Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (Nev.) appears to have secured the 60 votes needed to move an $848 billion health-care reform bill to the Senate floor for debate.
After days of indecision, Sen. Blanche Lincoln (Ark.) — the final Democratic holdout — announced Saturday afternoon that she has decided to support a procedural motion to break a GOP filibuster. Reid now expects all 60 members of his caucus to vote yes at 8 p.m. Saturday, clearing the way for amendment deliberations to begin after the Thanksgiving recess….
Two other undecided Democrats, Sens. Ben Nelson (Neb.) and Mary Landrieu (La.), also announced their support in the final hours before the Saturday vote.
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Rightwing Troll
November 22nd, 2009
10:02 am
Personally I don’t care why people are gay, it’s a non issue. Looking at some of the pathologies on display here daily, I wonder why people are Republican.
Choice or Biological… I mean who actually CHOOSES to be so delusional and ignore the truths around them, instead choosing to focus on all “that could” happen if they don’t get thier way?… Oh wait, small children, and the mentally deficient…
Who can actually look at the years from 2000 to 2008 and say “Oh yeah! gimmee some more of that”????
While I’m less than thrilled with Obama and Co., they were really the only choice we had… 4 more years of incompetence and disaster, or take a chance on a change???
md
November 22nd, 2009
10:05 am
“4 more years of incompetence and disaster, or take a chance on a change???”
Looks like we got the former instead of the later.
Bruno
November 22nd, 2009
10:05 am
Instant goosebumps:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XAiuK2XjA8
Rightwing Troll
November 22nd, 2009
10:05 am
jconservative,
That has to be one of the best positions on abortion I have ever seen. Succinct and to the point.
Count me in. Let the states and their citizens decide the issue, and also take responsibility for what they’ve imposed…
Bruno
November 22nd, 2009
10:09 am
“Count me in. Let the states and their citizens decide the issue, and also take responsibility for what they’ve imposed…”
Last time I checked, assistance is available for indigent children. No new mechanisms needed to achieve your “after-birth” safety net. Unless you’re talking about an expanded socialistic system.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
10:09 am
jconservative–
I keep trying to tell my fellow liberals that their dance on the grave of the GOP might be somewhat premature…there’s still some kick in that dead horse…
Bruno–
Whiner and sensitivity! Say it ain’t so! BTW on the Doobie Bros…last night a ten year old got on the piano and did a couple of selections from them!
Normal–
Warped and twisted? Takes one to know one!
RW–okay, finally, not me or you at the top!
Bruno
November 22nd, 2009
10:11 am
In honor of RightWIng Troll’s socialistic aspirations:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KP-6_Skr0w&feature=related
Rightwing Troll
November 22nd, 2009
10:12 am
Took a chance on an unknown quantity, and we see the results.
But, unlike the clairvoyants here on J B’s blog, who seem to know that everything Obama does will not only be a failure, but a spectacular failure, we had a solid track record to go by with McCain/Palin… Change HAD to happen and the 2008 GOP candidates were the faces of the same ol’ same ol’… stay the course, mission accomplished and all that…
For that reason, the GOP has to take it’s share of responsibility for today, as well as it’s share of the responsibility for 2000-2008.
Barney Frank did not put us where we are today, no matter how much you want to thrash about and claim it as the gospel truth.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
10:13 am
On abortion–ultimately it’s a woman’s decision, not a man’s, and is between her, her physician and her G-d. The state probably never should have entered into it to begin with…pretty much anywhere the state steps, a mess is sure to follow, in my opinion…
Bruno
November 22nd, 2009
10:15 am
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 21st, 2009
6:17 pm
“Bruno- I am very good at sensing people’s sincerity and you have none”
Such a sensitive, caring boy.
Rightwing Troll
November 22nd, 2009
10:15 am
Ahhhhh… I see Bruno has turned it’s guns on me…
Fire away my friend, I laugh in your general direction…
I won’t be around to engage in tit-for-tat because, unlike those that live here, I have a life… I will check in later for some humor value…
Bud Wiser
November 22nd, 2009
10:16 am
Good morning all.
This just in: The price of buying a cheap woman in New Orleans has just gone up…Mary Landrieu pulled in about $100 million or so, thus the hookers in New Orleans are meeting as we speak to decide on a new ‘price list’.
Bruno
November 22nd, 2009
10:17 am
One more Doobie selection, dedicated to josef. Change lyrics as needed to fit your situation with your partner:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqDP3UcehiU&feature=related
Rightwing Troll
November 22nd, 2009
10:19 am
The doobies were a hair before my time, but I do love the classics…
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
10:19 am
Bud Wiser @ 10:16
Thass funny, I don’t care who you are…
Right Wing Troll–
Working and making money as we blabber…
Rightwing Troll
November 22nd, 2009
10:22 am
As a matter of fact, I think if Bruno and I were to ever sit down and compare notes, we’d be in agreement on 90-98% of the issues we all argue about here on a daily basis.
I’ve just spent most of my life here in the bible belt, and don’t trust the Uber-religious, I have found that louder someone yells about being a man of god, the more likely they are not. And that’s what drives the GOP, the loudest yellers about being godly…
Rightwing Troll
November 22nd, 2009
10:23 am
Phone sex operator?
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
10:28 am
Bruno–Thanks…
Rightwing Troll–
Have to agree on the uber religious, although I’d use the word pious…I tell folks who are surprized when they “find out” I’m a believer, “well, I religious, not pious.”
Bruno
November 22nd, 2009
10:30 am
“we’d be in agreement on 90-98% of the issues we all argue about here on a daily basis. ”
We also reportedly share 95% of our DNA with chimps. That 5% can be critical sometimes, RWT, as witnessed by your Obama vote.
AmVet
November 22nd, 2009
10:31 am
B, lots of great Doobies.
My favorite pedal-steel laced “C & W” song of theirs…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6duQEtS4Ig&feature=related
Rightwing Troll
November 22nd, 2009
10:33 am
Ouch!!!!
Being that I’m not a flat-earther and believe in science, I can’t disagree with that assessment.
All I can say is even a chimp could tell you that 2000-2008 was a disaster, and that this country didn’t need anymore of the same…
Kamchak
November 22nd, 2009
10:33 am
RC
(R–apoi)
If you stop by here before you and Mrs. RC (R–apoi) strap on the Ryan’s feedbag, this song by Eddie Arnold was my father’s favorite. It’s not Hank Sr., but I’m dedicating it to my da.
Bruno
November 22nd, 2009
10:35 am
“My favorite pedal-steel laced “C & W” song of theirs…”
The whole Captain N Me album is phenomenal. Brings back some great partying memories.
Bruno
November 22nd, 2009
10:36 am
“Being that I’m not a flat-earther and believe in science, I can’t disagree with that assessment.”
Before you get on any science rants, you better check with Taxpayer. He got his butt kicked last Wed night.
Angry Black Man
November 22nd, 2009
10:38 am
G’morning everyone
Lemme put my $.02 in this morning.
Abortion: Personally, I don’t believe in it. However, I don’t think the government has a right to tell a woman what she can and can not do with her body. That decision should be left to the woman, doctor, and her personal G*d. I’m amazed in how fanatical the party of “personal freedoms” campaigns to take that personal freedom away from a woman. It reminds me of a law that was passed in Alabama a while back that made possession of personal sex toys illegal. With so much other crap going on, the state legislators decided it was best to legislate what goes on in peoples’ bedrooms. Simply Amazing.
Healthcare: Let the idiots debate until their faces turn blue. Maybe something good will come out of it. Then again, we are talking about Congress, so I doubt anything good will come from that effort.
Hope everyone enjoys their Thanksgiving holiday. And watch out for those Friday morning stampedes if you go shopping.
Rightwing Troll
November 22nd, 2009
10:41 am
Did someone here upbraid Taxpayer for believing in science? Or are you refering to the discussion about high tension wires, because that got real boring real fast and I didn’t really read much of it.
Bruno
November 22nd, 2009
10:42 am
Well, brother Am, I guess it’s about time we had some of our own church service. I’ll lead the congregation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPslBGjuRL0&feature=related
Bruno
November 22nd, 2009
10:43 am
“Shine”
Give me a word
Give me a sign
Show me where to look
Tell me what will I find
Lay me on the ground
Fly me in the sky
Show me where to look
Tell me what will I find
Oh, heaven let your light shine down
Love is in the water
Love is in the air
Show me where to look
Tell me will love be there
Teach me how to speak
Teach me how to share
Teach me where to go
Tell me will love be there
Oh, heaven let your light shine down
Bruno
November 22nd, 2009
10:44 am
BTW, that was on page 4:20 in your hymnals.
Nothing Is Free
November 22nd, 2009
10:44 am
jconservative
I agree with you that the fed should not be deciding issues about abortion and I REALLY appreciate you calling it “abortions.” The semantics of the left is frightening at best and deceptive at worst.
Abortions had been legal long before Roe v Wade. But they were legal in certain states and districts. I think there were only a couple of states and DC that allowed that procedure. Roe v Wade made it a Federal issue and forced it to be legal in all 50 states and all of our territories. I don’t know whether you knew that or not.
The health of the baby is not abandoned at birth. If the income of the parents is below $14,400/year, the baby is automatically on medicaid. One of the better things about the House Health Bill is that rate will rise to a little over $19.000/year. I certainly don’t have a problem with that.
Angry Black Man
November 22nd, 2009
10:45 am
josef
Saw your comments late last night. We don’t want to turn the establishment on it’s ear with that info, do we? I don’t think some people could handle the truth.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
10:45 am
rightwing troll–
I couldn’t participate in the science-technology set-to, being a total idiot that direction, but I did have a set-to with him on the matter of book burning, which he seemed in favor of, before it was put on hold, I got an earful of just what my problems were…cheaper than a shrink, though….
jt
November 22nd, 2009
10:48 am
calling me “a known, local malcontent….”
Global malcontent.
md
November 22nd, 2009
10:49 am
“All I can say is even a chimp could tell you that 2000-2008 was a disaster, and that this country didn’t need anymore of the same…”
And it certainly didn’t need an unbalanced gov’t, in either direction. There is still hope for Barry, but the dems in congress gotta go for him to have a chance or this country will implode under the mountain of unsustainable debt.
And for the folks who look at the painting from one side of the room, that debt was brought on by both parties, but the question will be which one wants to fix the problem as it exists.
md
November 22nd, 2009
10:51 am
I agree with many here that abortion is a choice, but I do not agree on your timeline.
The choice for many starts with opening ones legs, excuse lead to the choice of abortion.
Bruno
November 22nd, 2009
10:53 am
And for our concluding hymn today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QI_lQjf1eo
“Keep up your spirit, keep up your faith….”
Nothing Is Free
November 22nd, 2009
10:56 am
ABM
**I’m amazed in how fanatical the party of “personal freedoms” campaigns to take that personal freedom away from a woman. **
We are talking about the intentional death of an unborn child. I could not imagine a more important subject. But as I have said, I understand with our open culture, we do need to kill off a percentage of our population. So abortions, as disgusting as they are, need to exist.
I believe that once an unborn child becomes “self aware”, that an abortion should take place only with a court order, after a medical board has determined that it should proceed. Needless to say, if it is an emergency procedure, it needs to be done much more quickly, but that same board should have the power to review the procedure to make sure that the emergency was authentic.
Self awareness is easily detectable by several tests. It usually happens just after the first trimester, but not always. This would prevent the cruel and inhuman treatment brought on these innocent family members and American citizens by the brutal killing of that feeling child in their mother’s womb.
Rightwing Troll
November 22nd, 2009
10:57 am
Too early in the AM for 4:20 my man…
Angry Black Man
November 22nd, 2009
10:59 am
md
I can’t argue with your 10:51. Hopefully it won’t get to the point that you’re accused of aborting a life by saying no to a female’s/male’s advances.
AmVet
November 22nd, 2009
10:59 am
Morning NIF,
I don’t really feel like wading into this discussion about legal abortions, as I have my views on that topic clear on this blog.
But as a lexophile (a neologism BTW) I am interested in your point about the semantics.
Do you find the term “pro-life” deceptive?
I truly think the term anti-abortion is less disingenuous, don’t you?
And I too find that entire “right wingers don’t care about the baby after it is born” argument a canard…
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
11:02 am
ABM–morning to ya, sir…on last p.m. and beyond the official story…check elsewhere…
Bosch
November 22nd, 2009
11:05 am
Bruno,
I like your church hymns. I can actually sing along to those.
I did not know about Diane at the W2W blog – when did that happen? I read those columns – never participated in the blog, but I used to like their columns. The last time I saw their blog it had gotten spammed. Anyway, that’s really horrible.
Bosch
November 22nd, 2009
11:06 am
“which one wants to fix the problem as it exists.:
Neither.
Angry Black Man
November 22nd, 2009
11:07 am
NIF
My whole gripe with abortion is that the government is involved in the argument. I don’t think I could ever make the decision to abort a child. I also think that there are situations where that may be the best option for a woman to choose. I just think that it’s a better choice for the woman and doctor to be in control of that decision instead of the government.
I equate government controlling a woman’s right to choose as the same as government controlling healthcare. I don’t think either of those situations are what’s best for this country. There may be situations where that’s the best option for the person, but not for everyone as a whole.
Bruno
November 22nd, 2009
11:07 am
“I like your church hymns. I can actually sing along to those. ”
The collection plate will be around shortly. Got a credit card balance to pay off.
Diane–July, 2007.
RW-(the original)
November 22nd, 2009
11:08 am
Didn’t realize that blogging was all about picking sides.
Bruno,
Do you have to work at totally misrepresenting comments or does stupidity just come naturally to you?
AmVet
November 22nd, 2009
11:08 am
Preach it pastor B.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkYG8klvPFc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-5Wqv6M0Sk
(Bosch, you likely ain’t gonna be able to sing along to these! But hopefully you’ll dig both of them.)
Bruno
November 22nd, 2009
11:09 am
“Do you have to work at totally misrepresenting comments or does stupidity just come naturally to you?”
Mr. Sunshine is here.
md
November 22nd, 2009
11:10 am
abm,
I boils down to values, and it seems those are seriously lacking these days. Also, the fact that abortion is legal plays a large part in the thought process.
Those practicing recreational sex will always have an out as long as it is legal, makes it easy to play nike and “just do it” knowing one can go down to the abortion store later and return the merchandise.
@@
November 22nd, 2009
11:10 am
Bruno:
You’d be wrong about me on the choice thing when addressing homosexuality.
It’s funny how all you guys come in here talkin’ about a woman’s right to an abortion after having witnessed your bad selves as “Gangstas of Love” one Friday night. You know nothing about what it’s like to carry a child. It’s NOT that difficult.
HECK! there are women volunteering to carry for women who can’t.
As josef mentioned, there are options other than abortions (adoption anyone?)….but for some strange reason liberals don’t wanna address the restrictions placed on those. Probably because it would allow little excuse for them not having done what’s right.
I also find it interesting that YOU GUYS don’t take the father’s choice into consideration.
Is it because you don’t sympathize with him? Or is it because you do?
Men lending their voice to women’s issues. Please….don’t do ME any favors, fellas.
Another thing….libs are always saying the potential for success in life can be predicated on government offering a hand….but yet, the potential for a life unborn deserves not the same.
An big ball of yawn entangled in contradictions.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
11:10 am
jt–
Did you find his response to being called “a typical white man?” Unmentionable and I are still rolling over that one…
AmVet–that’s why I have such a problem in discussing this issue…abortion is, or should be, a medical procedure. The morality is, again in my opinion, a case-by-case issue. My opposition as it is is to abortion as a means of birth control. I like to refer people to Cardinal Mindzenty’s pastoral letter to the Hungarian priests in relation to the rape victims of the Russian soldiers
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
11:13 am
Bruno, @@
Okay, first vote in. I was right on that one…
Bruno
November 22nd, 2009
11:13 am
Here’s your new theme song, RW:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gz_OTXy430
Later, gators.
Bosch
November 22nd, 2009
11:13 am
RW,
We’re trying to pray.
AmVet,
Oh, I can sing along to Tom. I love that album. Petty never disappoints.
md
November 22nd, 2009
11:15 am
Bosch,
Get ready, we are about to enter a campign year where all the candidates will tell you they can and will fix it. Since the dems are the current spend as we please party in power, I’d say the reps have a good chance of rebalancing gov’t, which happens to be the last time the budget was balanced.
The budget will not get balanced if either party controls the gov’t, that is why we need to vote for the lesser of 2 evils slanting right in 2010.
Bruno
November 22nd, 2009
11:15 am
“Okay, first vote in. I was right on that one…”
You should know, being bedmates and all. I’m jealous……
Bosch
November 22nd, 2009
11:15 am
Bruno,
RW isn’t Mr. Sunshine – he’s Mr. Moonshine.
Nothing Is Free
November 22nd, 2009
11:15 am
Rightwing Troll
Taxpayer made the mistake of arrogantly challenging me on my math or science knowledge. While I am certainly not a mathematician or a scientist, I do have a degree in structural engineering, so I’m pretty good with numbers. At first he tried to frame it as a quiz on geometric terms, something that is learned in the 8th or 9th grade. I countered by offering an engineering problem that had several answers, the results depending on the grade level required to solve the problem.
On a high school level, the answer could be achieved with basic algebra. That was the extent of his understanding so his bragging that he had several degrees from Georgia tech was obviously a lie.
The second level of answer was involving engineering statics, or the study of an object in a static state, i.e. all the forces combined equaling a zero sum. That means that if everything equals zero force, that the structure would not fall down. While algebra would solve some of these problems, the one i offered would require calculus and some algebra.
The third solution would be a real life scenario with wind and weather making the problem about engineering dynamics. or a perpetually moving scenario. At that point, it becomes an extremely hard problem, one that I would not want to tackle, but had to tackle when I was still in school.
He made the mistake that some rather indoctrinated liberals (and some conservatives) make that anyone that disagrees with his politics must be uneducated. While it was fun rubbing his nose in his own ignorance, I have felt bad about it ever since.
Bruno
November 22nd, 2009
11:17 am
“It’s funny how all you guys come in here talkin’ about a woman’s right to an abortion after having witnessed your bad selves as “Gangstas of Love” one Friday night.”
FYI., it’s called “shooting blanks”, @@
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
11:18 am
AmVet
Intra tribu…i don’t know how much you follow rabbincal decisions, but on this one it seems all four branches agree pretty much and all reflect my own opinions on abortion
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
11:21 am
BRUNO
“You should know, being bedmates and all. I’m jealous……”
We use protection! All we do is talk…
NIF
Well, he IS a book burner and right up there with N-GA on a certain other issue of Drittereich interest…
md
November 22nd, 2009
11:22 am
An example of spend as we please:
There is currently a 200 billion surplus of tarp funds. Logic would dictate it be given back to the poor scmuck taxpayers or apply it to the deficit. But no, the dems are all chomping at the bit to see how they can get it applied to their pet projects.
Enough is enough. WE can not continue to spend money we DO NOT HAVE.
Local MalContent
November 22nd, 2009
11:24 am
josef nix-
I did.
Good link.
Nothing Is Free
November 22nd, 2009
11:25 am
AmVet
As is the case in so many of our discussions, I see the opposite. While I agree that all political semantics are deceptive and more about marketing than telling the truth,
It is a matter of life and death, and it is a meter of a woman’s choice. (Two dudes talking about this might actually be the problem
) I see the term “life” as being one of the two choices for the baby. I see it, while semantically dishonest, more accurate than such a broad term as choice.
Again, we disagree. What a shocker!!
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 22nd, 2009
11:26 am
Well, I want to thank Kamchak for putting on a sensible song for me. All these songs by people that name theirselfs after pot smoking are junk.
Anyhow, all I got to say is keep guvmint out of our life. We don’t need no guvmint. Except when it comes to what people do in their bedroom and if they’re doing it in the way God intended it and making sure gays don’t marry and women don’t get rid of kids they got in the Fambly Way with and other things that go against our Religion.
Headed for Ryans with the missus now. I prayed for you all down at the Church of Holiness today. Have a good Sabbath everybody.
Bosch
November 22nd, 2009
11:26 am
md,
Blog God is mad at me.
Bruno
November 22nd, 2009
11:26 am
“We use protection! All we do is talk… ”
Did you ever get the straight scoop from her about the spanking thing with RW? Sounded interesting…..
Angry Black Man
November 22nd, 2009
11:26 am
@@
I see it primarily as a woman’s choice because I don’t think anyone should be able to tell you what you can or can not do with your body. I think it’s a slippery slope once you start legislating restrictions on what a person can do to themselves. If a person is of sound mind, they should be able to understand their decisions and the reprecussions of that decision.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 22nd, 2009
11:28 am
Anyway, AmVet, ABM, Bruno, Josef, you guys along with Bosch, Paul, my heartthrob Dusty, and Scooter are the reason I keep coming back. I don’t do angry very well, negative vibes and all, but all y’all make me laugh, think, and reaffirm that while we can disagree, we don’t have to be snotty about it. Good on ya.
Negative vibes, eh abnormal?
You really are a girl.
~~~~~
Pavlov’s dog reflexively drooled when the dinner bell was rang and if you libs want to put your reaction to gay photographs on the same mental level, who am I to argue?
Bruno
November 22nd, 2009
11:29 am
“Well, I want to thank Kamchak for putting on a sensible song for me. All these songs by people that name theirselfs after pot smoking are junk.”
RC, you finally got me.
“Have a good Sabbath everybody.”
I did, yesterday.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
11:30 am
Mama used to say she’d be for abortion on demand if we’d make it retroactive.
malcontent–and the funniest part of it all is he’s a full blood!
Bosch
November 22nd, 2009
11:31 am
Another test for Blog God:
It’s all about your philosophy of how things should be – do we cut taxes to the corporations and spend? Or what we are seeing now? Personally I don’t think for one minute that if the GOP were in charge again they’d be doing anything different except ignoring health care reform all together instead of pretending that it is going to be better (like now).
But yes, I think I’ll sit the next campaign cycle out. I think I’ll take up a new hobby or something – like yard work.
Bruno
November 22nd, 2009
11:31 am
“Pavlov’s dog reflexively drooled when the dinner bell was rang and if you libs want to put your reaction to gay photographs on the same mental level, who am I to argue?”
Were you right on the second one, josef?
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
11:32 am
BRUNO–
Yesterday? Are you of the tribe? Not that it matters…
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
11:32 am
BRUNO–oh, but of course!
md
November 22nd, 2009
11:32 am
“I also find it interesting that YOU GUYS don’t take the father’s choice into consideration.”
Agree not enough consideration done in this area. Had a good friend that got his “significant other” pregnant. He was thrilled, she was not. She made HER decision to whack THEIR child. Needless to say the relationship ended as well and he has struggled with the loss of HIS child for a lifetime.
Bosch
November 22nd, 2009
11:34 am
Okay, md,
Blog Supreme Being was mad at my first paragraph, but I can’t figure out why. The first paragraph was about the short attention span of the American people and whether or not we can believe the GOP has somehow changed from the cut taxes and spend philosophy. I think they will because with each election we want that to be true, but never see it.
RW-(the original)
November 22nd, 2009
11:34 am
Bruno,
Perhaps when you get done sniping you can answer the question.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Snowe still in discussions with Obama about final health vote
What do you suppose her price tag will be?
Bruno
November 22nd, 2009
11:35 am
“BRUNO–oh, but of course!”
I wouldn’t mind meeting Reporter one day, if only to take his bankroll in poker. Very predictable.
Bruno
November 22nd, 2009
11:37 am
“Perhaps when you get done sniping you can answer the question.”
No problem, just hang on and I’ll get back to you. Might be a while.
Nothing Is Free
November 22nd, 2009
11:37 am
jesef
I regret letting him have it. I have learned that extremely bitter people like him live a very lonesome life and come here to try to gain the approval that he is sure he deserves, but when others point out the flaws in his perspective, he become even more lonesome and rejected, resulting in more bitterness. I understand that pain, maybe not on a permanent basis, but all of us have felt lonesome and rejected.
I, being a product of Appalachia, tend to want to be the first to swing back, even harder. I’m trying to do better, but another very lonesome and bitter person drew me into another pi**ing contest yesterday, which I also regret.
But I had a wonderful night, we had a great meal at a really nice restaurant, we had planned on taking in a movie, but we did a little Christmas shopping instead and I was amazed at the great attitudes of almost everybody at every store we visited. Even the Walmart, near our home was full of smiles and great feelings. I am a great fan of Christmas and last night was a complete blast.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
11:37 am
BOSCH–
Blog G-d got it in for me last week…some of them the most innocent, pure and chaste. Even Jay couldn’t figure it out…
Bud Wiser
November 22nd, 2009
11:38 am
My youngest grandson was born six weeks premature, and we all just celebrated his 3rd birthday last week with a big party. He is one of the shining lights in all our families lives.
I only have a few issues with abortions:
1. To be used as a birth control device for a mother who is too lazy or stupid to use contraceptives, or simply doesn’t care if she gets pregnant because daddy govt will help her to be rid of her ‘problem’.
2. To be used as a political knife to stab your opponent repeatedly because you are convinced your side is the onltright side.
3. Late term abortions…sticking a needle in a probably viable fetuses head to suck its brains out before yanking out the body to dispose of it. Had my daughter been so inclined because of her political leanings and/or other beliefs, or just decided she really didn’t want him now, my grandson would have never been born.
It truly is the most personal decision a woman will ever have to make, terminating another life. It is not to be taken cavalierly. Whether or not it becomes a religious issue in any afterlife for her is something no one will ever know, until they are dead.
And the dead aren’t talking.
@@
November 22nd, 2009
11:38 am
ABM:
I see you as a good man. You’ve also allowed us to share in your joy of that 15 month old daughter of yours. Hypothetically speaking….what if that little girl had been conceived under not so ideal circumstances. Can you look at her and say, you would have given up the right to enjoy who she is today? Let her go….just like that?
Rightwing Troll
November 22nd, 2009
11:39 am
As Andy kicks in the door and announces he’s here…
AmVet
November 22nd, 2009
11:39 am
NIF, good explanation.
To bookend Bruno’s choice…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZtQh5EIgWQ
And B, a fellow MOT to boot?
Right on.
It’s known fact we own/control all the banks int his country! Now for Bookman’s blog!!!
Bosch
November 22nd, 2009
11:39 am
RW,
Don’t you be dissing on my woman now.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
11:41 am
NIF–
In most cases, I would agree with you, Mom’s folks being hill folk, but in Taxpayer’s and N-GA’s cases, they’re just mean and hateful, bitter and full of venom. I don’t think you hit him hard enough…
getalife
November 22nd, 2009
11:42 am
Well, now the dems have the libs supporting drug and health care insurance companies welfare in this bill. Just like the gop got the cons to support corporate welfare. Well, the libs have not started tea parties yet.
Both dem and gop politicians are laughing again at the silly biased Americans. Tossed their beliefs and values to think they win in this sillly game.
Go team.
Bosch
November 22nd, 2009
11:42 am
josef,
I always get a laugh from those who are just totally convinced that it is Jay censoring them when their comments fall into moderation. Do they really take themselves so seriously? Geez!!
Angry Black Man
November 22nd, 2009
11:42 am
Whiner
You would be the one to bring up Pavlov’s dog. I don’t think anything else needs to be said.
Nothing Is Free
November 22nd, 2009
11:42 am
Bud Wiser
**And the dead aren’t talking.**
Sure they do. Don’t you ever watch Ghost Lab on Discovery?
Rightwing Troll
November 22nd, 2009
11:43 am
“But no, the dems are all chomping at the bit to see how they can get it applied to their pet projects.”
Of course there’s no conservative pet projects in the queue, right? I mean the Bridge to nowhere was a “Lib” project, right?
md
November 22nd, 2009
11:44 am
Bosch,
All I can say is our best CHANCE at a balanced budget comes with a balanced gov’t. When either party has total control they tend to act in THEIR best interest vs OUR best interest.
josef nix
November 22nd, 2009
11:45 am
AmVet…
At last! I’ve spent my life looking for the International Conspiracy of Zionist Bankers, Home at last, home at last!
I Report :-) You Whine :-( mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 22nd, 2009
11:46 am
To the multitude of things that liberals are confused as to the purpose of, the human digestive tract being only one of many, we can now add to that list political blogs, which they think are for feelgood aisle reaching and not, uh, political debate.
Just sayin…..
Bosch
November 22nd, 2009
11:48 am
md,
Hopefully Blog God won’t interfere – maybe he/she doesn’t want me responding to you, but:
I couldn’t agree more. I think that’s why Clinton was considered a decent POTUS (I know many here will need their monitor cleaners after reading that) – it was because he had a Republican Congress to deal with, and vice versa.
Local MalContent
November 22nd, 2009
11:48 am
jt says, ” It is wrong for the Federal Government to SUBSIDIZE anything.”
jt says, “It is also wrong for the Federal Government to even be INVOLVED in abortion.”
It doesn’t have to be this way.
md
November 22nd, 2009
11:49 am
“Of course there’s no conservative pet projects in the queue, right? I mean the Bridge to nowhere was a “Lib” project, right?”
Only one side has the votes, and it isn’t the side with conservative pet projects.
Nothing Is Free
November 22nd, 2009
11:50 am
josef
N-GA is another problem. That boy has serious issues. I honestly believe that he hates David Duke because Duke left the KKK.
My girl Liz Cheney is killing the opposition on This Week. Damn, she’s smart. She stays calm, doesn’t stutter and makes her point so precisely with examples and logic. And the great thing is that she is so good, that the libs on the roundtable constantly challenge her, giving her the floor much more than most anyone gets. So they throw up talking points and she knocks them out of the park.