Democratic senators stay with Reid… so far

BOSCH–Aw! You mean you aren’t a fan of “Deliverance?” We were invited once to be present at an event where Dickey would be present. Unmentionable refused saying it was best he never be that close to him!

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“You mean you aren’t a fan of “Deliverance?”

This part is still a classic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N40d047u-L8

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Good job jo nix. Glad to pass back the baton.

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“I could have gone all night without THAT!”

Redemption at 11:08!

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And my other favorite degenerate movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c412hqucHKw

And while I’m at it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_5sQyHnbY4

(language)

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Georgia just rolled over. LSU went down. Think I’m gonna call it a night.

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josef

A little history for today. Thought you’d get a kick out of some of these:

1620 – Pilgrim Fathers reach America: Provincetown Harbor, Mass
1620 – Mayflower Compact signed by Pilgrims in Cape Cod

1824 – 1st Jewish Reform congregation forms, Charleston, SC

1877 – Tom Edison announces his “talking machine” invention (phonograph)

1922 – Rebecca L Felton (Ga) sworn in as 1st female US Senator

1942 – Tweety Bird, aka Tweety Pie, debuts in “Tale of Two Kitties”

1977 – 1st flight of Concorde (London to New York)

1980 – Dallas’ “Who Shot JR?” episode (Kristen) gets a 53.3 rating (83 mill)
1980 – It is revealed Kristen shot J.R. Ewing on “Dallas”

1992 – Oregon Sen Bob Packwood issues apology for unwelcome sexual advances

1995 – Dow Jones closes above 5,000 for 1st time

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“1995 – Dow Jones closes above 5,000 for 1st time”

And more than 14,000 approximately 10 years later. Too far, too fast?

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New day tomorrow, catch you later.

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ABM–oh, yes, and before I forget, and the first Africans had walked down the gangplank in Ole Virginny a year before the first Puritains set foot at Old Cape Cod…but, ssh, we don’t want to disillusion them and make them have to rewrite the history text, now do we?

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Well dammeet! I usually leave out words instead of adding extras.

Night y’all

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jo nix,

What can I say?

/deep cut dj’s eat your heart out.

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RW–

I pretty much like most people. On my bad days I can be a real a**. Some folks just take themselves too seriously.

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jo nix,

If you’d been around in the ml blog days you’d know I have a bar fight theory of separating acquaintances. I’d put you in the side I want with me and that’s the highest praise I can give to someone I don’t actually know. Just know I’d have your back too.

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Now, g’night for real…

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BoB
We just had 8 solid years of “conservative” control of the Gov. and your pie in the sky description of:

“And the conservative side would be a thriving free market type government that lets their people decide what to with their own money.”

That doesn’t even come close to describing the results…

That’s what’s so scary about you flat earther nut sacks, you cannot recognize failure from your own, and you see failure in anything not of your “tribe”…

Again, this yet another non issue that, despite all Rush and Beck and Hannity the videographer have tried to sell you, won’t make a bit of difference in any of your day to day lives…

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

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Good morning Lord Help Us, a little foamy this morning?

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Correction-

And so it came to pass that Landrieu walked onto the Senate floor midafternoon Saturday to announce her aye vote — and to trumpet the financial “fix” she had arranged for Louisiana. “I am not going to be defensive,” she declared. “And it’s not a $100 million fix. It’s a $300 million fix.”-Washington Post

I get it now, if you want to pilfer the US Treasury, you just sit around telling your fellow democrats no on their vanity rubbing legislation, then they bribe you using astronomical amounts of tax payer/ play dollars.

Sounds like the Third World to me.

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Senate Democrats pushed ahead with President Barack Obama’s vision of health reform Saturday night – after a day that exposed significant divides in the party that could make it all but impossible to complete work on a plan by year’s end, or even sink the bill altogether.-Politico

Apparently Politico doesn’t understand that every democrat has a price and $300,000,000.00 is the gold standard just to open the debate.

The way that Reed/Pelosi/Obozo are giving away money/ our children’s future, I’ll bet there are fifty nine democrats that changed their vote to “no.”

Open the bidding.

Let the graft begin.

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“What the heck were a bunch of guys (assuming they are, but sometimes…the swappin’ slobber stuff makes me wonder) talkin’ ’bout over there? Breast cancer, and how it impacts black women…”

@@–Think of it this way, the best night of the week for a guy to go to a bar is on ladies night. My previous blog name was Dog.

W2W didn’t focus exclusively on women’s issues. It’s greatest advantage is that two opposing points of view were presented, so not a one-sided Lib love fest like Jay’s can be at times.

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The skeptics have seized upon the e-mails stolen from the Climatic Research Unit of the University of East Anglia in Britain as evidence that scientific data have been rigged to make it appear as if humans are causing global warming. The researchers, however, say the e-mails have been taken out of context and merely reflect an honest exchange of ideas. -Urinal

I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline.-Sample Email

Honest exchange of fraudulent data is more like it.

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And faulty data:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=stumbling-over-data

Here’s a link to your story, Reporter:

http://tgdaily.com/security-features/44763-hackers-steal-confidential-global-warming-data

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GO BIG BLUE!!!

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Bluto:

Ladies night at a bar (visual) contact. A woman’s blog (virtual reality) ?contact?

Maybe all the guys over there were thinking like you. Maybe you were discussing issues (women’s or otherwise) with other guys? Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Blogs (chatrooms) are blogs. Life is reality. Never the t’ween shall meet.

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“Blogs (chatrooms) are blogs. Life is reality. Never the t’ween shall meet.”

Which is why I usually blog a few times per week maximum.

Occasionally people do meet through blogs, though that is not my goal.

To be honest, when I first started blogging, I came to start fights with liberals, ala Reporter. W2W was the most liberal site I could find, though Jay’s is probably about equal now that I’m here. Eventually it became more of a social thing. I don’t think any politicians have ever changed a vote based on the ajc blogs.

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“Bruno, I hope you find it as funny as I that we are now apparently Dan Fogelberg and Tim Weisberg!”

I think there may be some who take the whole blogging thing a little too seriously, buddy.

Another great morning breaker:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ESHjYat9rk

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Well, AmVet….I must say, the image of you as PopEye did make me chuckle. Bulging forearms attributed to your intense hammering away on the keyboard. Then there’s your love for the spin…..natch.

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AmVet–You asked a few days ago what the Republican Party could do to attract more voters. If I were Party Chairman, I would suggest the following:

(1) Return to true conservative values such as limited government, fiscal responsibility, individual freedom/responsibility.

(2) Stay out of people’s personal lives. Accept that abortion is here to stay regardless of your personal feelings about it.

(3) Distance the party from religious extremists. It’s not worth alienating the middle to appeal to the far right. And that doesn’t mean compromising conservative principles. Strict “constructionists” respect the non-establishment clause IMO.

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Our cup runneth over…

Folks, be extra generous during this special season.

Don’t eat too much turkey. Don’t eat too much ham.
Remember those that will be feasting on Spam.
And will later sneak away for a relaxing smoke,
And a sip of moonshine to head off a stroke.

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“Normal, I stand beside you, my brother. Stop the war. NOW.”

I probably could add:

(4) Return to a more limited foreign policy. Following 9/11, some type of military response was required, IMO, but 2 long dragged wars cannot be considered a great outcome. I do see benefits in knocking Saddam out of power, but it came at a huge price. I am of the mindset that radical Islam must be dealt with from the outside because the Muslim world doesn’t have the political will to do it from within.

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Tn–Bread-based or cornbread-based stuffing? In the bird or in a pan?

Those two questions alone tell you whether someone is from the North or the South.

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Accept that abortion is here to stay regardless of your personal feelings about it.

Kind of hard to put that toothpaste back in the tube. Nearly two generations of hard-righties have become convinced they’re modern day abolitionists. With all the attendant fundraising mechanisms in place.

That said, Bruno, you continue to interest me with your oft-rational approach to things.

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“I’ll take it either way.”

We’ll be sure to take that one in the context it was intended, Tn.

“you continue to interest me with your oft-rational approach to things.”

The highest compliment I ever got was a high school yearbook tribute “To an A+ student who actually has some sense”.

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And a cheerful good a.m. to one and all…

Bruno–bread based and not cornbread based! Infidel! Need you even ask? Sides, bread IS cornbread, that light, airy, cakey stuff is white bread or light bread!

RW–forgot to tell you last night, I don’t care very much for N-GA either…

AmVet–and how’s the knee this a.m.?

TnGelding–good to see you…we seem to be on different schedules these days

jt–O-si-yo!

@@–Hey, love… hope you’re have a two emoticon a.m.

Whiner–howdy-do! Good to see you’re up and at ‘em

Rightwing Troll–don’t know you very well yet, but a cheery a.m. all the same

NORMAL–and, last but not least, how the h are ya?

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STB–

Oops…posted that before you showed up…always glad to see you!

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Stands for DitzyBull:

Just curious…when Roe v Wade became accepted law, did you ever anticipate that the government would be funding (thru Planned Parenthood) abortion on such a massive scale? Did you also anticipate that it would morph into late-term abortion. Did you stop to think that government sanctioned abortions would have such a dire impact on our economy?

Fewer people, fewer resources to fund government excess?

I sure didn’t, but here we are…facing the unintended consequences. And don’t give me that crap about babies not cared for. Encouraging traditional values, as opposed to leftist values would have gone a long way in insuring that they were.

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“Therefore I will continue to advocate for a return of power, real power, to the sovereign people…”

Any practical suggestions about how to go about doing that? Can you forsee a Nader type party ever gaining the critical mass necessary to elect a candidate. The Libertarian Party is stuck on 2-5%. Ross Perot got nearly 20% if I recall correctly.

Would a revamped Republican Party (Party of Eisenhower, for example) ever win your vote?

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As you know, I try to stay out of the abortion as a means of birth control argument, having no friends on either side, but when it comes down to raising a child who came here unplanned and under circumstances my liberal friends want to cite…well, me and Unmentionable DID raise one and I DO have some opinions on that one…if you’ve done it, we’ll talk, if you haven’t shut up…

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Americans “hate” Conservative positions and consider them to be “extremist” but democrat politicians always campaign as Conservatives because people vote that way.

Now you know why liberals have to twist some much to get people to vote for them.

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Bruno, there are numerous ways to retake what is rightfully ours.

The National Initiative would be a HUGE step in the right direction:

“The people can never willfully betray their own interests, but they may possibly be betrayed by the representatives of the people.” – The Federalist No. 63

Trust by Americans in nearly all institutions of power—with some temporary rallies now and then, to be sure, as after 9/11—has been in decline for nearly half a century.

Today Americans rate Congress, the Presidency, the courts, politics in general, the press, corporations, and both the Democratic and Republican Parties at levels lower than during most of Watergate.

In a political system choking on bipartisan corruption, in the midst of an incumbent-ocracy protection racket, there are only two stark alternatives:

We can trust the same parties and the same institutions to reform themselves, to bring change where they have promised it for decades, and not delivered.

Or we can take matters into our own hands, reform the system, and reclaim our rights to legislate. It is in our name, after all – “we the people”—that the powers of the constitution itself are delegated.

The way it works is pretty simple.

Whenever there’s an issue people feel strongly about—health care, the war in Iraq, election laws—people can force a national vote on a proposal for change.

Sponsors – who could be any number of citizens—simply gather, under enabling procedures, enough signatures to show that the idea has some reasonable level of support, and the matter is placed on the national agenda.

In some cases, Congress, seeing that there is going to be a vote on this matter anyway, may actually get off the dime and seek to enact the law without even having to have a national vote.

If Congress doesn’t act, however—or if it enacts an outrageous law that people want to reverse—then a sufficient petition drive will automatically bring about a national debate and a direct national vote by the people –- if the petition is successful.

This already happens in nearly half the states, and in several dozen countries for particular questions. The system is used to the greatest extent in Switzerland—which is widely respected for its excellence in democratic governance.

Switzerland has been praised as such by observers as diverse as Tocqueville, Bryce, and, in contemporary times, Ron Paul, Bill Bradley, and Ronald Reagan.

Switzerland is rightly termed, by Senator Mike Gravel, “the greatest democratic republic” in the history of the world.

What would this proposal do?

Several things.

First, it would break the national logjam on many issues that have never been resolved—some of them over decades—and which tend not to be resolved by the self-interested incumbents of both parties.

Furthermore, it would take significant power out of the hands of lobbyists, White House aides, network television executives, congressional committee chairmen, and other particular elites—and spread it over the American people.

One way of viewing it is, there would be a new check and balance—and a spur—added to our three branches of government.

The National Initiative would give Americans the kind of effective choice and participation in decision-making that we enjoy in most spheres of our lives – purchasing our own food, renting a hotel room, bidding on Ebay—but not, paradoxically, in our own political system.

If you like Senator Obama’s policy on the war, but Senator McCain’s position on taxes, or you like Mr. Nader’s healthcare plan but not some of his other proposals, you no longer have to choose to swallow one bitter pill or another.

You can elect the persons you believe have the highest character, and then support and oppose them on particular issues as they arise.

Flowing from this—from the fact that each American, as one writer has put it, would now “be, in some sense, a member of Congress”—we would see a revival and renaissance of citizenship and citizen activism not seen, sadly, in many decades.

Having power—having a check on their political elites—having a reason to be active and informed—Americans would be active and informed.

In general, when Americans are given choices and have the power to make decisions, they are highly responsible and informed.

“Freedom,” said the ancient Roman lawyer Cicero, “is participation in power.”

Some people may fear that Americans are not wise enough to make such choices responsibly. Or that direct democracy will become a threat to minority rights—a fear aptly refuted by Alexander Keyssar of Harvard and Gregory Fossedal of the Tocqueville Institution, among others.

To this understandable hesitation, we need only ask: compared to what?

Compared to a Congress that votes on laws it hasn’t even read, written by lobbyists, while bottling up others without even a vote, for decades?

Compared to a bipartisan White House-Congressional Empire that has now launched at least eight wars since World War II, without ever declaring one?

We may rather say, paraphrasing Winston Churchill, that a system of lawmaking by the people is likely to be the worst ever seen—except for all of the conceivable alternatives.

http://www.nationalinitiative.us/

and

http://ni4d.us/

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Bruno-

I am not. I only post under one name.

Josef-

O-si-yo Asayga.

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Bruno–
I’m probably in the same corner with you than you might think. I’m opposed to a state sanction of “marriage.” The state is in the civil union business for legal purposes. When straight folks go to a civil union license bureau instead of a marriage license bureau, I’ll go for it…if after 35 years of forsaking all others me and Unmentionable ain’t “married” I’d like to know who is…

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Yes, B a resurrected GOP essentially free of neo-cons and chickenhawks would be very inviting to me. And I have said so repeatedly.(And WTF, Repubs, how about getting some bright young veterans/battle-tested moderates in your ranks??? Is there some secret rule prohibiting that?)

To your question about third parties, ONLY after the American Politburo is dismantled will we have a competitive democracy.

The four main parties of which are – the Republican National Committee, the Democratic National Committee, the corporate owned mainstream media and the Commission on Presidential Debates.

In self-serving and highly profitable collusion they effectively silence ALL other voices in this nation.

So with their inestimable “help”, we end up with the worst government that dirty money can buy.

And to date very few Americans even are willing to look at this problem.

Take a poll here for example. You’ll either lip service to this issue or blanket indictments that all third party candidates are “loons”.

But there is always hope, my friend. And not the fake type promoted by our current occupier fo the West Wing…

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“Take a poll here for example. You’ll either lip service to this issue or blanket indictments that all third party candidates are “loons”.

I’m probably more on the lip service side of the survey, though did vote for Perot twice. Unfortunately, as josef referenced above, Ross quickly reinforced the “loon” label.

“I am not. I only post under one name.”

You have far better musical tastes than j$.

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Grand morning to y’all! I’ve been trying to find high(low)lights of last nights Ga-Ky game. As you might know, I’m a Kentuckian and our genes are such that we bleed Big Blue. I fell asleep at halftime and was surprised to learn the ‘Cats won the game.

Anyway, AmVet, ABM, Bruno, Josef, you guys along with Bosch, Paul, my heartthrob Dusty, and Scooter are the reason I keep coming back. I don’t do angry very well, negative vibes and all, but all y’all make me laugh, think, and reaffirm that while we can disagree, we don’t have to be snotty about it. Good on ya.

Now on to important stuff: Stuffing, has to be cornbread, but I do in and out of the bird. The out portion in the roasting pan with the bird. Yummy.

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Normal–I’m at the mercy of whoever is cooking. The nomad life is for me.

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Josef, twisted I can believe. That’s your best side!

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Bruno–
I took a second (positive) look at Perot when he came out against NAFTA as formulated, “lemme telya sumpin. If I can get the same work for $1 an hour in Mexico that I pay $8 an hour for in the US, whatchu thank I’m gonna do? I’m a bidnessman. It may be good for me, but it’s not good for America.” If he’d've said the aliens had come down in DC…

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Bruno– the brain studies have turned up some interesting things, too…seems in gay men that part of the brain which deals with language and that part that deals with the aesthetic are more highly developed…we really ARE more sensitive

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Oooooo…

had to fix something from above…

I am of the mindset that the radical GOP must be dealt with from the outside because the Conservative world doesn’t have the political will to do it from within.

Ahhh, words of truth to grow by… much better…

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“…we really ARE more sensitive”

Just last night, Reporter was claiming to have special powers of sensitivity. Ya think he might be……??

Another selection for this AM:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1JmrHlXf04&feature=related

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