Fox poll says Obama disapproval rising; bow was OK

Fox News is trumpeting the results of its latest poll, showing that President Obama’s job approval rating has fallen to its all-time low of 46 percent, matching his disapproval rating.

A few days ago, Fox was also trying to make a big deal about Obama’s bow to the emperor of Japan. The poll suggests that seed fell on barren ground.

The question:

When the president of the United States is traveling overseas, do you think it is appropriate for him to bow to a foreign leader if that is the country’s custom or is it never appropriate for the president to bow to another leader?

The response:

Yes, bow when it is the proper custom: 67 percent
No, it is never appropriate: 26 percent
Democrats: Yes, 84 percent; Never, 9 percent
Republicans, Yes, 53 percent; Never 40 percent
Independents: Yes, 62 percent; Never, 30 percent

284 comments Add your comment

getalife

November 20th, 2009
11:56 am

Jess

November 20th, 2009
11:57 am

Your headline should have read, All polls show Obama’s dissapproval rising, although it could have been phrased differently. Polls lst week showed dissapproval rates from 42%-48%.

@@

November 20th, 2009
12:00 pm

Well, jay, from what I can tell….the question re: bowing makes dems look lopsided. The rest? More reasonable in their opinions.

Tom

November 20th, 2009
12:01 pm

FOX??? More weak, shrieking, right-wing voices from the Vomitorium.
The NASCAR/KKK/NRA crowd – and proud of it!! Yup.

Finn McCool

November 20th, 2009
12:02 pm

Democrats: Yes, 84 percent; Never, 9 percent
Republicans, Yes, 53 percent; Never 40 percent
Independents: Yes, 62 percent; Never, 30 percent

Well, we can see where the yokels vote.

AmVet

November 20th, 2009
12:02 pm

This poll is crap.

I have no way of know whether it is or not, of course.

But I just thought I’d beat the usual two crybaby suspects to the punch.

Besides, its fun saying the word crap…

Jimmy Carter

November 20th, 2009
12:03 pm

Good grief. The bow was no big deal.

Jay – you say Fox News is “trumpeting” this new poll. Most other sources who conduct polls show similar findings. Are they also “trumpeting” the results, or are they just reporting? I believe your bias against Fox is showing.

AmVet

November 20th, 2009
12:06 pm

Bowing? That’s child’s play.

Now throw up on another head of state and you’ve done something important!

Or better yet, just give him a big wet smackee…

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2008/01/14/he_kisses_for_thee

Tom

November 20th, 2009
12:10 pm

Goons: Having lived in Japan for 5 years, I can assure you that one DOES absolutely…bow! For all the reasons that you are too ignorant to grasp. Culture. Courtesy. Respect. Tradition. And sooo much more. (We have no traditions, courtesies, respect,culture, etc., here in the U.S. A reason why we are properly known for decades as “UGLY
AMERICANS.”). At 6′3″, I initially had some difficulty in bowing. But it was great for the lower-back muscles. Ahh, the ignorance of arrogance of the common Murcuhn masses!

Boogers for the Children Fund

November 20th, 2009
12:13 pm

Americans do not bow.

stands for decibels

November 20th, 2009
12:13 pm

that seed fell on barren ground.

Doesn’t Leviticus have something to say about that?

stands for decibels

November 20th, 2009
12:14 pm

one DOES absolutely…bow! For all the reasons that most Fox News enthusiasts are too ignorant to grasp.

fyt

Boogers for the Children Fund

November 20th, 2009
12:15 pm

Perhaps the kenyan wasnt bowing, just bending over.

Paul

November 20th, 2009
12:17 pm

“Fox”?

How many news shows, commentors, opinion shows are on “Fox”? Who trumpeted? I watched the O’Reilly interview with Palin – in one segment he showed Nixon bowing to Mao, said it was diplomatic protocol and appropriate.

How about “Fox trumpets bow is no big deal?”

Re: the poll: asking a question is now trying to make a big deal of something?!!?

Paul

November 20th, 2009
12:19 pm

sfd

So the self identified Liberals, Moderates, Democrats and Independents who watch Fox News are… ignorant?

You’re casting a pretty wide net, there. But at least you’re consistent!

stands for decibels

November 20th, 2009
12:20 pm

Thinking a bit deeper–

I guess the Pubbies decided to go full-tilt boogie with their attacks on the White House, their fealty to party unity uber alles, and subsequent determination to obstruct any kind of meaningful reform legislation and nitpick every last decision or (literal) gesture from Obama because they figured that by driving up Obama’s negatives they could win by tearing down. No other reason than that–it’s just about winning and they figured it’s their best shot.

If there’s nothing personal, just business, ok. I get that.

But in the back of my mind I keep wondering if there’s some interplanetary “Biggest A-Hole” contest world leaders are privy to, that we groundlings aren’t allowed to know about.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

November 20th, 2009
12:21 pm

Well, he should never of bowed. A good American would of stood up straight on his tiptoes and maybe give a finger to boot. We’re better than everybody else. Anybody can see that.

I’m just so ashamed of this illegal President. We need My President back. He would of said something like “How you doing, Emp?” like Babe Ruth said “How you doing, King?” back when he was innerduced to the King of England. And My President would of cut off federal funds and maybe attacked a small country to boot, just to show we don’t take no crap from nobody.

I can’t hardly wait till 2012 and Sarah is elected.

Have a good p.m. everybody. And try not to blush when somebody mentions this President. There’s no reason for you to blush. You didn’t vote for him. He got elected by ACORN.

stands for decibels

November 20th, 2009
12:22 pm

So the self identified Liberals, Moderates, Democrats and Independents who watch Fox News are… ignorant?

Hey, we’re all ignorant of something.

But in the spirit of that quote snippet, rather, I’m suggesting that FNC viewers would lap up the notion that our President Must Never Bow Eva (even though Nixon and Ike did) because, well, that’s the sort of string that’s fun to pull.

Also, you are no fun a tall.

stands for decibels

November 20th, 2009
12:24 pm

asking a question is now trying to make a big deal of something?!!?

Well, we did chat at some length about the appropriateness of polling about ACORN “stealing the election” some hours back, so you’ll get a variety of answers to that.

Paul

November 20th, 2009
12:24 pm

sfd

I am so! Just ask… well…umm… hey, what did you think of Newsweek’s Palin cover!

Off to see New Moon. Later, all!

Mrs. Godzilla

November 20th, 2009
12:33 pm

Wow! The Bow!

I bowed to all the Japanese I met in Tokyo and a year later when they came to dinner at our home they bowed.

We also shook hands, hugged, laughed, ate, drank and one asked to use the bathroom.

What a wacky crazy far-out world!

Re: Obama’s numbers…..I predict over the next seven years they’ll go up and down a few times. No biggie.

Run the lovely Gov and see what happens.

stands for decibels

November 20th, 2009
12:34 pm

hey, what did you think of Newsweek’s Palin cover!

Same thing I did when I saw it in Runner’s world. Actually, that was a pretty good article, one of the rare times I found myself mostly in agreement with Ms. Palin…

http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-243-410–13221-0,00.html

danjonglee

November 20th, 2009
12:35 pm

Palin seems to be on the brain of most leftist. ABC, CNN, CBS, FOX, MSNBC, NBC, PBS,…. Palin around the clock. Better get back to pushing that pile of debirs healthcare bill….

stands for decibels

November 20th, 2009
12:38 pm

Palin seems to be on the brain of most leftist.

Paul is a leftist?

stands for decibels

November 20th, 2009
12:39 pm

Oops, sorry, danjonglee was complaining that the media were fixated on her book tour. fair enough.

stands for decibels

November 20th, 2009
12:42 pm

I predict over the next seven years they’ll go up and down a few times. No biggie.

As I’m fond of reminding, Reagan came within shouting distance of the high 30s during his first term. And his party lost some seats in the ‘82 mid-terms, yet somehow, he won that squeaker against Walter Mondale.

pat

November 20th, 2009
12:45 pm

I am more concerned with the way obama is trying to make us bend over more than him bending over.

Mrs. Godzilla

November 20th, 2009
12:46 pm

stands

i wonder if somewhere there’s an overlay graph of presidential approvals?

stands for decibels

November 20th, 2009
12:47 pm

“i wonder if somewhere there’s an overlay graph of presidential approvals?”

Something like that here.

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-presapp0605-31.html

Mrs. Godzilla

November 20th, 2009
12:47 pm

pat

relax…he just thinks you’ve got a cute tushie….

getalife

November 20th, 2009
12:50 pm

Ooohhh, rim shot!

Speaking of the kkk, they are holding a rally before the next Ole Miss game.

Geez.

Jenifer

November 20th, 2009
12:50 pm

I hear Psalm 109 is very popular with the Fox crowd.

Mrs. Godzilla

November 20th, 2009
12:50 pm

stands

i had just found that…..great minds think alike…..

Government Option Dung Deal

November 20th, 2009
12:51 pm

@@

November 20th, 2009
12:00 pm

Bows are the traditional greeting in East Asia, particularly in Japan and Korea. However, bowing is not reserved only for greetings. Bowing is a gesture of respect. Different bows are used for apologies and gratitude, to express different emotions, humility, sincerity, remorse, or deference, and in various traditional arts and religious ceremonies.

Basic bows originate at the waist and are performed with the back straight and the hands at the sides (for men) or clasped in front (for women), and with the eyes down. Generally, the longer and deeper the bow, the stronger the emotion or the greater the difference in social standing.

Bows can be generally divided into three main types: informal, formal, and very formal. Informal bows are made at about a fifteen degree angle and more formal bows at about thirty degrees. Very formal bows are deeper. In extreme cases a kneeling bow is performed, which may be so deep that the forehead touches the floor. There is an extremely complex etiquette surrounding bowing, including the length and depth of bow, and the appropriate response. For example, if the other person maintains his or her bow for longer than expected (generally about two or three seconds), it is polite to bow again, upon which one may receive another bow in return, often leading to an exchange of progressively lighter bows.

pat

November 20th, 2009
12:52 pm

I appreciate at least a little lubrication…

Angry Black Man

November 20th, 2009
12:53 pm

I’m sure there’s a poll out there somewhere that says that Bigfoot is a democrat and voted for Obama too. LOL!!

Hopefully we, as a nation, can quit worrying about the inane and actually work towards rebuilding our economy.

mike

November 20th, 2009
12:53 pm

Well, of course there is little outrage over the bow nonsense. There is little rage among the populace for any of the “outrages” that are peddled by the partisan noise machine from either side.

Government Option Dung Deal

November 20th, 2009
12:54 pm

Josef Nix

Medical Pot can help me explain.

Bows are a required and expected part of any apology or expression of thanks in East Asia, especially Japan and Korea.

Bows of apology tend to be deeper and last longer than other types of bow. They occur with frequency during the apology, generally at about 45 degrees with the head lowered and lasting for at least the count of three, sometimes longer. The depth, frequency and duration of the bow increases with the sincerity of the apology and the severity of the offense. Bows of thanks follow the same pattern.

Bows of apology are frequently performed at press conferences by high-ranking members of a company that has performed some misdeed, such as producing faulty parts that resulted in a death. These bows are almost invariably performed standing behind a table; the tips of the fingers touch the table while the upper body, held straight, is lowered from the waist until the face is parallel with the tabletop.

World's Hottest Foxy Lady

November 20th, 2009
12:55 pm

You republican/conservatives hate Noble Prize winner, our Commander-in- Chief, the President of the United States – Barack Hussain Obama, don’t you?

Well you should show more respect and patriotism to your country, you haters!!! Remember, you losers lost the election.

So, if you won’t show respect and can only dis, then:

SUCK IT, LOSERS!!!!

mike

November 20th, 2009
12:55 pm

“Dr” Chad –

Thanks for telling us what the Wikipeda says. If you are going to copy and paste others’ work, you need to cite it.

Government Option Dung Deal

November 20th, 2009
12:56 pm

When dealing with non-East Asians, many East Asians will shake hands. Since many non-East
mike-

Your but is speaking through your mouth again. Don’t be a Bosch.

Asians are familiar with the custom of bowing, this often leads to a combined bow and handshake. Bows may be combined with handshakes or performed before or after shaking hands.

Generally when bowing in proximity to another, as necessitated when combining bowing and shaking hands, people turn slightly to one side to avoid bumping heads.

Yo'momma Obama

November 20th, 2009
12:56 pm

Yeah, but wait to see how his poll numbers drop when he makes everyone at the WH wear those checkered scarves on their heads and forces them to pray 4 times a day on prayer mats facing East….

Mrs. Godzilla

November 20th, 2009
12:56 pm

pat

whatever happend to personal responsibility?

http://www.k-y.com/index_us.jsp#

you want the government to do everything for you or what?

jewcowboy

November 20th, 2009
12:57 pm

Imagine, a world leader showing respect for his host country…I want to know is who are these 26% who think it is not appropriate any time.

What would they say if the Japanese came to the U.S., the President stuck out his hand for a shake, and they bowed, leaving the President standing there with his hand out? Would that be appropriate?

Showing respect for your hosts is not a weakness, it is called etiquette.

Of course, that 26% probably blows their nose onto their sleeves and burps the National Anthem after drinking a beer while watching Glenn Beck cry about the end of the world.

mike

November 20th, 2009
12:58 pm

“Well you should show more respect and patriotism to your country, you haters!!!”

Another liberal questioning the patriotism of others? I thought only evil conservatives did that.

getalife

November 20th, 2009
12:59 pm

Mrs G. is on a roll.

Foxy Lady,

Yeah, lets dis the haters.

Hard Right Hook

November 20th, 2009
1:00 pm

“A more formal way of bowing is performed to a 45-degree angle looking down at your feet. This type of bow signifies deep gratitude, a respectful greeting, a formal apology, asking for favors, and so on.”

http://gojapan.about.com/cs/etiquetteinjapan/a/bowing.htm

Nothing about a 90 degree bow.

mike

November 20th, 2009
1:00 pm

jewcowboy –

I agree that the folks getting worked up over this are silly, but lets not forget the heat that Bush got from the left for holding the had of the rule of Saudi Arabia, another sign of respect.

For example, look how the “tolerant” liberals at Democratic Underground reacted:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104×3542209

Mrs. Godzilla

November 20th, 2009
1:01 pm

getalife

it’s friday….let us be of good humor…..

stands for decibels

November 20th, 2009
1:01 pm

“Dr” Chad –

mike, did you notice the “dung” in his name?

These are not the droids you’re looking for.

mike

November 20th, 2009
1:02 pm

“Dr” Chad –

“Your but is speaking through your mouth again.”

LOL. Thanks for that “intellectual” response. We have so much to learn from “intellectual” and “tolerant” liberals like yourself.

Mrs. Godzilla

November 20th, 2009
1:02 pm

mike

small difference in the two circumstances…

how many of the 9/11 hijackers were from Japan?

Angry Black Man

November 20th, 2009
1:03 pm

So if a bow is out of the question, what about a little bow chica wah wah? I’ve seen qute a few beautiful East Asians.

mike

November 20th, 2009
1:04 pm

sfb –

Thanks for the heads up. Missed that.

TGT

November 20th, 2009
1:06 pm

Could the myth of anthropogenic global warming finally be exposed?!

Warming Conspiracy Exposed?

The emails seem genuine.

getalife

November 20th, 2009
1:07 pm

Mrs. G,

Yup.

Slow news day.

mike

November 20th, 2009
1:08 pm

Mrs G –

“small difference in the two circumstances…”

Is there ever a time when you don’t see a “small difference between the two circumstances”. I mean there is always some thin reed of an explanation for why conservatives are bad for doing something, but liberals are not bad for doing the same thing.

Prince Abdullah had nothing to do with 9/11 and the Saudi government has been among the most ruthless opponents of al-Qaeda. This hair splitting does not change the fact that partisan liberals did exactly the same thing to Bush that partisan conservatives are doing to Obama now.

Just like they thought that Bush was not a legitimate President. Just as they called him a Fascist. Just as they accused him of destroying America, etc, etc.

The arguments made by the partisans and the knee-jerk outraged response to these arguments are exactly the same.

World's Hottest Foxy Lady

November 20th, 2009
1:11 pm

mike,
you are an intolerant and unitelligent hater of your country and all American who have a right to say there opinion. you don’t know nothing about respect for your president or the county.

you are one of the dis’n loser who should just go:

SUCK IT!!!!!

Fred

November 20th, 2009
1:13 pm

“Fox trumpeting!” Gosh Jay, you are so freaking predictable. What were they reporting on you favorite – Keith Olbermann???

mike

November 20th, 2009
1:15 pm

World’s Hottest Foxy Lady –

“you are an intolerant and unitelligent hater of your country and all American who have a right to say there opinion.”

And what do you base this hateful assessment on? Your own mindless stereotypes?

Tell me what I have said that backs up your silly and hateful caricature. I am confident that you will be unable to and will respond with more “intellectual” liberal rhetoric like “suck it” with lots of exclamation points. LOL

mike

November 20th, 2009
1:17 pm

Fred –

” What were they reporting on you favorite – Keith Olbermann???”

Jay is one of the many liberals who conveniently doesn’t watch MSNBC, so he can claim ignorance of Olbermann, Schuster, Maddow,Schultz and Matthews.

Makes it much easier to criticize their peers at Fox if they can pretend that there is an equal group on the left.

Government Option Dung Deal

November 20th, 2009
1:17 pm

stands for decibels -

Foam on the bunghole of a barrel in a brewery.

A bunghole is a hole bored in a liquid-tight barrel. The hole is capped with a large cork-like object called a bung.

Bungholes were first used on wooden barrels, and were typically bored by the purchaser of the barrel using a brace and bit. Bungholes can be bored in either head (end) of a barrel or in one of the staves (side). With the bung removed, a tapered faucet can be attached to aid with dispensing. When barrels full of a commodity were shipped, the recipient would often bore new bungholes of the most suitable size and placement rather than remove the existing bung. Wooden barrels manufactured by specialty firms today usually are bored by the maker with suitable bungholes, since the hobbyists who purchase them for the making of beer, wine, and fermented foods often do not have a suitable brace and bit.

Closed-head steel barrels and drums now used for shipment of chemicals and petroleum products have a standardized bunghole arrangement, with one 2″ NPT and one 3/4″ NPT threaded bunghole on opposite sides of the top head. Some steel barrels are also equipped with a 2″ threaded bunghole on the side.

In his work Hamlet, William Shakespeare makes a passing reference to bungholes, as Hamlet contemplates the skull of his old friend Yorick, and how even such high mortals as Alexander the Great must inevitably return to lowly dust:

Hamlet: To what base uses we may return, Horatio! Why may not imagination trace the noble dust of Alexander, till he find it stopping a bung-hole?
Horatio: ‘Twere to consider too curiously, to consider so.
Hamlet: No, faith, not a jot; but to follow him thither with modesty enough, and likelihood to lead it: as thus: Alexander died, Alexander was buried, Alexander returneth into dust; the dust is earth; of earth we make loam; and why of that loam, whereto he was converted, might they not stop a beer-barre

Balance Our Budget

November 20th, 2009
1:17 pm

W YORK–(BUSINESS WIRE)–As President Obama continues his trip through Asia this week, he is trying to sell both himself and his policies on the other side of the world. When he makes it back to the United States, he may have to do the same type of sell here as his approval ratings continue their downward spiral with Americans believing that the country as a whole is moving in the wrong direction. The President, and Congress for that matter, need to do something positive in the eyes of the American public to stand a chance of increasing their approval numbers in the near future.

This month, just over two in five Americans (43%) give the president positive ratings on the job he is doing while 57% give him negative ratings. This is down from last month when 45% gave President Obama positive ratings and 55% gave him negative marks and it continues the steady downward trend that has been happening since June.

These are some of the results of The Harris Poll® of 2,303 adults surveyed online between November 2 and 11, 2009 by Harris Interactive®.

World's Hottest Foxy Lady

November 20th, 2009
1:20 pm

mikie (aka mike-tard),
“And what do you base this hateful assessment on?”

because everything you says shows that you are stupid and a hater, loser!!!!

if i was as stupid as you, i’d keep my mouth shut. it shows your stupidness too much.

The Great Cornholio

November 20th, 2009
1:21 pm

I AM CORNHOLIO!!! Do you have t.p. for my bunghole?

I come from Lake Titicaca….

Where I’m from we have no bungholes.

Mrs. Godzilla

November 20th, 2009
1:21 pm

mike

you don’t see a difference, i do.

which congress member from MN called for her people to be armed and dangerous…..

BiteMe

November 20th, 2009
1:21 pm

Jimmy62

November 20th, 2009
1:21 pm

The Japanese themselves said the bow inappropriate. And he did it for them, not for Americans, so the gesture did worse than fall flat, it made the Japanese think Obama is an idiot who couldn’t be bothered to spend five minutes finding out the proper protocol. What Americans think when polled on this particular issue is completely irrelevant, since the average American isn’t supposed to know the proper ettiquette in Japan. A world leader making an official visit, on the other hand, should know. Pathetic.

Angry Black Man

November 20th, 2009
1:22 pm

This has got to be a very, very slow day.

Normal

November 20th, 2009
1:22 pm

Mike, World’s Hottest Foxy Lady – sure is rude, isn’t she. Not so hot either…

mike

November 20th, 2009
1:23 pm

World’s Hottest Foxy Lady –

OK. Thanks for showing that your comments are based on nothing but mindless hatred and that name calling is about the extent of your ability to communicate. Sorry that your life is so miserable. I hope things get better.

I’ll be ignoring your ignorant dreck now, but feel free to keep calling me names. It will demonstrate to all how much we have to learn from “tolerant” and “intellectual” liberals like yourself. LOL

Balance Our Budget

November 20th, 2009
1:23 pm

Fox News has pulled off another dominant quarter, claiming the top 10 cable news programs in 3Q 2009 and growing against 3Q 2008, while CNN and MSNBC lost substantial portions of their election-boom audience.

Fox News averaged 2.25 million total viewers in prime time for the third quarter, up 2% over the previous year. That’s more than CNN (946,000, down 30%) and MSNBC (788,000, down 10%) combined.

“The O’Reilly Factor” led all cable news programs with an average of 3.295 million total viewers for the quarter, up 12% over the previous year. “Hannity” (2.603 million, up 9%), “Glenn Beck” (2.403 million, up 89%), “On the Record with Greta van Susteren” (2.150 million, up 16%), and “Special Report with Bret Baier” (1.997 million, up 20%) rounded out the top five.

Meanwhile, flagship programs at MSNBC and CNN did not sustain their growth from 3Q 2008: At MSNBC, “Countdown with Keith Olbermann” averaged 1.087 million total viewers, down 12% from the previous year and “The Rachel Maddow Show” averaged 996,000 total viewers (Maddow began the program in September 2008, so a comparison for the quarter would be inaccurate; compared to September 2008, though, Maddow’s September 2009 total viewer average is down 40%). At CNN’s “Anderson Cooper 360″ averaged 1.005 million viewers, down 17% from the previous year and “Lou Dobbs” averaged 658,000 total viewers, down 24%. Larry King and Campbell Brown were both down just slightly in total viewers.

CNN in particular had a rough quarter in the primetime Adults 25-54 demo: the network dropped 39% compared to 3Q 2008, averaging 287,000 viewers.

mike

November 20th, 2009
1:24 pm

Normal –

Nah. She is right. She doesn’t agree with me, so I hate America.

Some logic really transcends partisan lines, doesn’t it? :)

Bronco

November 20th, 2009
1:24 pm

We did our own poll. 45 percent of the people we called disapproved 15 percent approved and the other 40 percent had had the phones cutoff

Normal

November 20th, 2009
1:24 pm

Just saw on the AJC home page that they are going to pay that water lawyer 882.00 an hour. WTF???

Brill

November 20th, 2009
1:25 pm

I think his disapproval rating is rising because he can’t make a decision on Afghanistan, his admin decided to try KSM in a civil court, admin lied about stimulus jobs creation, unemployment highest in 30 years, admin decided against Ft Hood investigation, won’t tap into any natural resources we have that would create jobs and energy independence, small business development stifled as they sweat out possible new taxes and gov’t mandates from the cap and trade and health care reform bills, taxes on cosmetic surgery, taxes on soft drinks, taxes on cigarettes, taxes on alcohol, taxes on achievement, let Bush tax expire which is a tax increase, death tax kicks back in next year. Job killing health care reform bill that increases costs, less choices, new govt. guidelines rationing mammograms, failure to produce swine flu vaccine…I can come up with more, this should do for now.

Balance Our Budget

November 20th, 2009
1:26 pm

Mike just ignore Foxy Lady she isn’t interested in a intelligent conversation.

Normal

November 20th, 2009
1:26 pm

Mike: Some logic really transcends partisan lines, doesn’t it?

Yessir, and even when we are going at it, we may have thought it, but we never said it…civility, ain’t it grand?

Government Option Dung Deal

November 20th, 2009
1:27 pm

World’s Hottest Foxy Lady

A burqa (Arabic pronunciation: [ˈbʊrqa]; also transliterated burkha, burka or burqua from Arabic: برقع‎ burqu‘ ) is an enveloping outer garment worn by women in some Islamic traditions for the purpose of cloaking the entire body. It is worn over the usual daily clothing (often a long dress or a shalwar kameez) and removed when the woman returns to the sanctuary of the household (see purdah).

mike

November 20th, 2009
1:27 pm

Mrs G –

“which congress member from MN called for her people to be armed and dangerous…..”

Not familiar with the quote or the context, but I do know which congress member called those who disagreed with his preferred health care policies “evil mongers”. I also know which congress member said that Republicans want you to “hurry up and die” .

Congresspeople say stupid things. What does that have to do with what we were discussing?

AmVet

November 20th, 2009
1:28 pm

ABM at 1:22, maybe I could stir things up a tad.

Nah, lets let the mindful non-partisans here poke each others eyes out for awhile…

mike

November 20th, 2009
1:28 pm

Normal –

This true, which I think makes us the best people here! :)

Angry Black Man

November 20th, 2009
1:28 pm

BoB

Then there’s the demographic that I belong to that watches something worthwhile between those hours and don’t really give a crap about any of those shows. As you can tell from a sampling of the postings on this blog, all those shows do is accelerate brain rot here in this country. Partisan crap is partisan crap whether it smells to the left or the right. Watch something like V or CSI and entertain yourself. You’ll sleep better at night.

Boogers for the Children Fund

November 20th, 2009
1:30 pm

Unlike Reagan, the approval numbers of the kenyan will most likely continue their decent into the ever so stinky waters of the ALMIGHTY TOILET!

stands for decibels

November 20th, 2009
1:30 pm

claiming the top 10 cable news programs in 3Q 2009

Which is kind of like being the “tallest midget” or “fastest push-scooter” but, whatever.

That’s one fine sheep-herdin’ operation Messrs. Ailes and Murdoch got going, I’ll give you that.

Brill

November 20th, 2009
1:32 pm

Hired tax cheat as Sec of Treasury, spent more money in 8 months than every President in history COMBINED, deficit out of control, deficit spending out of control, lied about Rev, Wright, lied about relationship with Bill Ayers, ACORN. The only biright spot, this guy is “one and done” they are already calling him a “blip” in American History. In about 2060 an obsure footnote tossed out by a bored teacher as we might recall Chester A. Arthur today.

mike

November 20th, 2009
1:32 pm

sfb –

“That’s one fine sheep-herdin’ operation Messrs. Ailes and Murdoch got going, I’ll give you that.”

Right, because anyone who watches a network you don’t like is a sheep, right. In addition to being evil and stupid.

Boots

November 20th, 2009
1:32 pm

Not only should the President of the United States be sensitive to cultural sensitivies of other countries, the President should never give the President of Germany a neck rub.

The facts show that Fox is willing to fabricate whatever they need to make their point as seen in the fake crowd video used by Sean Hannity and Fox News. Two apologies in one week. So much for Fair and Balanced.

Angry Black Man

November 20th, 2009
1:32 pm

sfd

“tallest midget”? “fastest push scooter”? You got me crying from laughing so hard…

Balance Our Budget

November 20th, 2009
1:35 pm

ABM
You should watch maybe you could learn something.I suggest Glenn Beck tonight.

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November 20th, 2009
1:35 pm

GoDD @ 12:51:

I appreciate the explanation but I bow to no one, and in return, expect no one to bow to me.

That’s why I do my own pedicures. There’s something engrained in me that says…having an Asian (predominately so) woman at my feet demeans her and elevates me.

Just the way I was raised, I guess.

mike

November 20th, 2009
1:35 pm

Boots –

I think Fox is a joke, but at least Hannity admitted the inaccuracy. MSNBC didn’t even live up to that low standard:

“On Friday’s edition of Morning Meeting, host Dylan Ratigan featured fake photos of Sarah Palin during a mocking segment on why Americans are fascinated with the former vice presidential candidate. While listing the show’s top ten reasons, Ratigan showed a doctored photo of Palin’s head on the bikini-clad body of a woman holding a weapon.

The host never admitted or addressed the fact that his network was passing off counterfeit pictures to his viewers. Earlier in the segment, Ratigan displayed an image of Palin in a short, black mini-skirt. This photo is also not real.”

http://insidecablenews.wordpress.com/2009/11/13/fake-sarah-palin-photos-air-on-msnbc/

Angry Black Man

November 20th, 2009
1:36 pm

Normal

Pardon me for stepping into your shoes for a minute…

Brill

Bless your heart.

Michael

November 20th, 2009
1:37 pm

The middle of the road people who may favor Obama more (it would take a miracle for him to top 80 percent EVERY) are probably annoyed with how long the health care issue is taking. I personally think he should articulate exactly what he wants to kind of unify his people behind him. John Boehner and other GOP leaders have no such problem. It’s not hard to say NO!!!!

He’s also not going to be highly popular until the unemployment rate starts shrinking. $700 billion was spent to stimulate the economy, and the 15 million or so out of work aren’t going to approve of that until they get a job.

Mrs. Godzilla

November 20th, 2009
1:37 pm

mike

@1:24

if it helps any I’ve been told I hate America countless times….

I’m also a 200 ton, commie, socialist, facist, pinko, bedwetting, baby killing, wretched and lonely, mindless, ignorant, hate filled, POS….
according to some.

i don’t think you hate America….we just disagree.

(oh, and of course I’m right!)

AmVet

November 20th, 2009
1:38 pm

sfd, that analogy is hysterical. Absolutely brilliant.

I think of this puerile TV pablum as very similar to porn.

Unrivaled in its popularity with old, lonely white guys…

mike

November 20th, 2009
1:39 pm

Mrs G -

I know that you would never use such rhetoric. My point is simply that it exists on both sides.

(And I know that you are right!) ;)

Angry Black Man

November 20th, 2009
1:39 pm

BoB

I’ve watched all those show, listened to talk radio, and read different political blogs. It’s all opinions, and you know the old sayings about opinions, don’t ya? Opinions are like a$$holes, everybody has one. If I need something to laugh at, I’ll flip thru those channels. If I want to learn, I go research the facts and learn on my own. I don’t care to have someone tell me what I should or should not believe. That’s not how I like to live.

Jimmy Carter

November 20th, 2009
1:40 pm

Boots

November 20th, 2009
1:32 pm

I truly believe the instances you cited are just two examples of the lengths the “vast left wing conspiracy” will stoop to. HAHAHAHA!!!

The American People

November 20th, 2009
1:42 pm

Great commercial by the healthcare propaganda machine – A young boy says something like, “Next week I am going to break my leg and then my parents are going to lose their house because they don’t have health insurance.” – What an absolute joke, especially using a kid to push their B.S. through because it is so urgent when for some reason the plan doesn’t begin until 2013. Fraud-Bama. Change in 2010 and 2012, Change we can look forward too.