Fox poll says Obama disapproval rising; bow was OK
Fox News is trumpeting the results of its latest poll, showing that President Obama’s job approval rating has fallen to its all-time low of 46 percent, matching his disapproval rating.
A few days ago, Fox was also trying to make a big deal about Obama’s bow to the emperor of Japan. The poll suggests that seed fell on barren ground.
The question:
When the president of the United States is traveling overseas, do you think it is appropriate for him to bow to a foreign leader if that is the country’s custom or is it never appropriate for the president to bow to another leader?
The response:
Yes, bow when it is the proper custom: 67 percent
No, it is never appropriate: 26 percent
Democrats: Yes, 84 percent; Never, 9 percent
Republicans, Yes, 53 percent; Never 40 percent
Independents: Yes, 62 percent; Never, 30 percent
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getalife
November 20th, 2009
11:56 am
Silly.
Jess
November 20th, 2009
11:57 am
Your headline should have read, All polls show Obama’s dissapproval rising, although it could have been phrased differently. Polls lst week showed dissapproval rates from 42%-48%.
@@
November 20th, 2009
12:00 pm
Well, jay, from what I can tell….the question re: bowing makes dems look lopsided. The rest? More reasonable in their opinions.
Tom
November 20th, 2009
12:01 pm
FOX??? More weak, shrieking, right-wing voices from the Vomitorium.
The NASCAR/KKK/NRA crowd – and proud of it!! Yup.
Finn McCool
November 20th, 2009
12:02 pm
Democrats: Yes, 84 percent; Never, 9 percent
Republicans, Yes, 53 percent; Never 40 percent
Independents: Yes, 62 percent; Never, 30 percent
Well, we can see where the yokels vote.
AmVet
November 20th, 2009
12:02 pm
This poll is crap.
I have no way of know whether it is or not, of course.
But I just thought I’d beat the usual two crybaby suspects to the punch.
Besides, its fun saying the word crap…
Jimmy Carter
November 20th, 2009
12:03 pm
Good grief. The bow was no big deal.
Jay – you say Fox News is “trumpeting” this new poll. Most other sources who conduct polls show similar findings. Are they also “trumpeting” the results, or are they just reporting? I believe your bias against Fox is showing.
AmVet
November 20th, 2009
12:06 pm
Bowing? That’s child’s play.
Now throw up on another head of state and you’ve done something important!
Or better yet, just give him a big wet smackee…
http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2008/01/14/he_kisses_for_thee
Tom
November 20th, 2009
12:10 pm
Goons: Having lived in Japan for 5 years, I can assure you that one DOES absolutely…bow! For all the reasons that you are too ignorant to grasp. Culture. Courtesy. Respect. Tradition. And sooo much more. (We have no traditions, courtesies, respect,culture, etc., here in the U.S. A reason why we are properly known for decades as “UGLY
AMERICANS.”). At 6′3″, I initially had some difficulty in bowing. But it was great for the lower-back muscles. Ahh, the ignorance of arrogance of the common Murcuhn masses!
Boogers for the Children Fund
November 20th, 2009
12:13 pm
Americans do not bow.
stands for decibels
November 20th, 2009
12:13 pm
that seed fell on barren ground.
Doesn’t Leviticus have something to say about that?
stands for decibels
November 20th, 2009
12:14 pm
one DOES absolutely…bow! For all the reasons that most Fox News enthusiasts are too ignorant to grasp.
fyt
Boogers for the Children Fund
November 20th, 2009
12:15 pm
Perhaps the kenyan wasnt bowing, just bending over.
Paul
November 20th, 2009
12:17 pm
“Fox”?
How many news shows, commentors, opinion shows are on “Fox”? Who trumpeted? I watched the O’Reilly interview with Palin – in one segment he showed Nixon bowing to Mao, said it was diplomatic protocol and appropriate.
How about “Fox trumpets bow is no big deal?”
Re: the poll: asking a question is now trying to make a big deal of something?!!?
Paul
November 20th, 2009
12:19 pm
sfd
So the self identified Liberals, Moderates, Democrats and Independents who watch Fox News are… ignorant?
You’re casting a pretty wide net, there. But at least you’re consistent!
stands for decibels
November 20th, 2009
12:20 pm
Thinking a bit deeper–
I guess the Pubbies decided to go full-tilt boogie with their attacks on the White House, their fealty to party unity uber alles, and subsequent determination to obstruct any kind of meaningful reform legislation and nitpick every last decision or (literal) gesture from Obama because they figured that by driving up Obama’s negatives they could win by tearing down. No other reason than that–it’s just about winning and they figured it’s their best shot.
If there’s nothing personal, just business, ok. I get that.
But in the back of my mind I keep wondering if there’s some interplanetary “Biggest A-Hole” contest world leaders are privy to, that we groundlings aren’t allowed to know about.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 20th, 2009
12:21 pm
Well, he should never of bowed. A good American would of stood up straight on his tiptoes and maybe give a finger to boot. We’re better than everybody else. Anybody can see that.
I’m just so ashamed of this illegal President. We need My President back. He would of said something like “How you doing, Emp?” like Babe Ruth said “How you doing, King?” back when he was innerduced to the King of England. And My President would of cut off federal funds and maybe attacked a small country to boot, just to show we don’t take no crap from nobody.
I can’t hardly wait till 2012 and Sarah is elected.
Have a good p.m. everybody. And try not to blush when somebody mentions this President. There’s no reason for you to blush. You didn’t vote for him. He got elected by ACORN.
stands for decibels
November 20th, 2009
12:22 pm
So the self identified Liberals, Moderates, Democrats and Independents who watch Fox News are… ignorant?
Hey, we’re all ignorant of something.
But in the spirit of that quote snippet, rather, I’m suggesting that FNC viewers would lap up the notion that our President Must Never Bow Eva (even though Nixon and Ike did) because, well, that’s the sort of string that’s fun to pull.
Also, you are no fun a tall.
stands for decibels
November 20th, 2009
12:24 pm
asking a question is now trying to make a big deal of something?!!?
Well, we did chat at some length about the appropriateness of polling about ACORN “stealing the election” some hours back, so you’ll get a variety of answers to that.
Paul
November 20th, 2009
12:24 pm
sfd
I am so! Just ask… well…umm… hey, what did you think of Newsweek’s Palin cover!
Off to see New Moon. Later, all!
Mrs. Godzilla
November 20th, 2009
12:33 pm
Wow! The Bow!
I bowed to all the Japanese I met in Tokyo and a year later when they came to dinner at our home they bowed.
We also shook hands, hugged, laughed, ate, drank and one asked to use the bathroom.
What a wacky crazy far-out world!
Re: Obama’s numbers…..I predict over the next seven years they’ll go up and down a few times. No biggie.
Run the lovely Gov and see what happens.
stands for decibels
November 20th, 2009
12:34 pm
hey, what did you think of Newsweek’s Palin cover!
Same thing I did when I saw it in Runner’s world. Actually, that was a pretty good article, one of the rare times I found myself mostly in agreement with Ms. Palin…
http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-243-410–13221-0,00.html
danjonglee
November 20th, 2009
12:35 pm
Palin seems to be on the brain of most leftist. ABC, CNN, CBS, FOX, MSNBC, NBC, PBS,…. Palin around the clock. Better get back to pushing that pile of debirs healthcare bill….
stands for decibels
November 20th, 2009
12:38 pm
Palin seems to be on the brain of most leftist.
Paul is a leftist?
stands for decibels
November 20th, 2009
12:39 pm
Oops, sorry, danjonglee was complaining that the media were fixated on her book tour. fair enough.
stands for decibels
November 20th, 2009
12:42 pm
I predict over the next seven years they’ll go up and down a few times. No biggie.
As I’m fond of reminding, Reagan came within shouting distance of the high 30s during his first term. And his party lost some seats in the ‘82 mid-terms, yet somehow, he won that squeaker against Walter Mondale.
pat
November 20th, 2009
12:45 pm
I am more concerned with the way obama is trying to make us bend over more than him bending over.
Mrs. Godzilla
November 20th, 2009
12:46 pm
stands
i wonder if somewhere there’s an overlay graph of presidential approvals?
stands for decibels
November 20th, 2009
12:47 pm
“i wonder if somewhere there’s an overlay graph of presidential approvals?”
Something like that here.
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-presapp0605-31.html
Mrs. Godzilla
November 20th, 2009
12:47 pm
pat
relax…he just thinks you’ve got a cute tushie….
getalife
November 20th, 2009
12:50 pm
Ooohhh, rim shot!
Speaking of the kkk, they are holding a rally before the next Ole Miss game.
Geez.
Jenifer
November 20th, 2009
12:50 pm
I hear Psalm 109 is very popular with the Fox crowd.
Mrs. Godzilla
November 20th, 2009
12:50 pm
stands
i had just found that…..great minds think alike…..
Government Option Dung Deal
November 20th, 2009
12:51 pm
@@
November 20th, 2009
12:00 pm
Bows are the traditional greeting in East Asia, particularly in Japan and Korea. However, bowing is not reserved only for greetings. Bowing is a gesture of respect. Different bows are used for apologies and gratitude, to express different emotions, humility, sincerity, remorse, or deference, and in various traditional arts and religious ceremonies.
Basic bows originate at the waist and are performed with the back straight and the hands at the sides (for men) or clasped in front (for women), and with the eyes down. Generally, the longer and deeper the bow, the stronger the emotion or the greater the difference in social standing.
Bows can be generally divided into three main types: informal, formal, and very formal. Informal bows are made at about a fifteen degree angle and more formal bows at about thirty degrees. Very formal bows are deeper. In extreme cases a kneeling bow is performed, which may be so deep that the forehead touches the floor. There is an extremely complex etiquette surrounding bowing, including the length and depth of bow, and the appropriate response. For example, if the other person maintains his or her bow for longer than expected (generally about two or three seconds), it is polite to bow again, upon which one may receive another bow in return, often leading to an exchange of progressively lighter bows.
pat
November 20th, 2009
12:52 pm
I appreciate at least a little lubrication…
Angry Black Man
November 20th, 2009
12:53 pm
I’m sure there’s a poll out there somewhere that says that Bigfoot is a democrat and voted for Obama too. LOL!!
Hopefully we, as a nation, can quit worrying about the inane and actually work towards rebuilding our economy.
mike
November 20th, 2009
12:53 pm
Well, of course there is little outrage over the bow nonsense. There is little rage among the populace for any of the “outrages” that are peddled by the partisan noise machine from either side.
Government Option Dung Deal
November 20th, 2009
12:54 pm
Josef Nix
Medical Pot can help me explain.
Bows are a required and expected part of any apology or expression of thanks in East Asia, especially Japan and Korea.
Bows of apology tend to be deeper and last longer than other types of bow. They occur with frequency during the apology, generally at about 45 degrees with the head lowered and lasting for at least the count of three, sometimes longer. The depth, frequency and duration of the bow increases with the sincerity of the apology and the severity of the offense. Bows of thanks follow the same pattern.
Bows of apology are frequently performed at press conferences by high-ranking members of a company that has performed some misdeed, such as producing faulty parts that resulted in a death. These bows are almost invariably performed standing behind a table; the tips of the fingers touch the table while the upper body, held straight, is lowered from the waist until the face is parallel with the tabletop.
World's Hottest Foxy Lady
November 20th, 2009
12:55 pm
You republican/conservatives hate Noble Prize winner, our Commander-in- Chief, the President of the United States – Barack Hussain Obama, don’t you?
Well you should show more respect and patriotism to your country, you haters!!! Remember, you losers lost the election.
So, if you won’t show respect and can only dis, then:
SUCK IT, LOSERS!!!!
mike
November 20th, 2009
12:55 pm
“Dr” Chad –
Thanks for telling us what the Wikipeda says. If you are going to copy and paste others’ work, you need to cite it.
Government Option Dung Deal
November 20th, 2009
12:56 pm
When dealing with non-East Asians, many East Asians will shake hands. Since many non-East
mike-
Your but is speaking through your mouth again. Don’t be a Bosch.
Asians are familiar with the custom of bowing, this often leads to a combined bow and handshake. Bows may be combined with handshakes or performed before or after shaking hands.
Generally when bowing in proximity to another, as necessitated when combining bowing and shaking hands, people turn slightly to one side to avoid bumping heads.
Yo'momma Obama
November 20th, 2009
12:56 pm
Yeah, but wait to see how his poll numbers drop when he makes everyone at the WH wear those checkered scarves on their heads and forces them to pray 4 times a day on prayer mats facing East….
Mrs. Godzilla
November 20th, 2009
12:56 pm
pat
whatever happend to personal responsibility?
http://www.k-y.com/index_us.jsp#
you want the government to do everything for you or what?
jewcowboy
November 20th, 2009
12:57 pm
Imagine, a world leader showing respect for his host country…I want to know is who are these 26% who think it is not appropriate any time.
What would they say if the Japanese came to the U.S., the President stuck out his hand for a shake, and they bowed, leaving the President standing there with his hand out? Would that be appropriate?
Showing respect for your hosts is not a weakness, it is called etiquette.
Of course, that 26% probably blows their nose onto their sleeves and burps the National Anthem after drinking a beer while watching Glenn Beck cry about the end of the world.
mike
November 20th, 2009
12:58 pm
“Well you should show more respect and patriotism to your country, you haters!!!”
Another liberal questioning the patriotism of others? I thought only evil conservatives did that.
getalife
November 20th, 2009
12:59 pm
Mrs G. is on a roll.
Foxy Lady,
Yeah, lets dis the haters.
Hard Right Hook
November 20th, 2009
1:00 pm
“A more formal way of bowing is performed to a 45-degree angle looking down at your feet. This type of bow signifies deep gratitude, a respectful greeting, a formal apology, asking for favors, and so on.”
http://gojapan.about.com/cs/etiquetteinjapan/a/bowing.htm
Nothing about a 90 degree bow.
mike
November 20th, 2009
1:00 pm
jewcowboy –
I agree that the folks getting worked up over this are silly, but lets not forget the heat that Bush got from the left for holding the had of the rule of Saudi Arabia, another sign of respect.
For example, look how the “tolerant” liberals at Democratic Underground reacted:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104×3542209
Mrs. Godzilla
November 20th, 2009
1:01 pm
getalife
it’s friday….let us be of good humor…..
stands for decibels
November 20th, 2009
1:01 pm
“Dr” Chad –
mike, did you notice the “dung” in his name?
These are not the droids you’re looking for.