A special dedication for this week’s travelin’ music
This guy I know — I’ll call him “Boose” — is getting married this weekend for the first time, just two days short of his 50th birthday. The man held out for a long, long time, but the once impregnable citadel of his bachelorhood finally met a conquering force it could not resist in the great and powerful Miss LK.
So Boose my man, this week’s Friday Evening Travelin’ Music is dedicated to you, courtesy of the inimitable Miss Nina Simone. And don’t worry, bro, I’ll be standing right there beside you when the deed gets done.
The ceremony, that is.
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Bruno
November 21st, 2009
10:49 am
“B, as you’re the resident guru on the topic, what’s your take on the large Hadron Collider?”
To be honest, Am, I’m just as suspicious of Big Science as you are of Big Business. In the end, it’s not so much about the pursuit of truth with these guys as it is the pursuit of funding for their pet projects.
From the article:
“Although they have never been directly seen, these particles are theoretically the building blocks of the bigger particles — protons, neutrons and electrons — that form the universe as we know it.”
At a certain point, I’m reminded of arguments from the Middle Ages about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Talk about missing the forest for the trees. I don’t want to get off on a big science/philosophy tangent this AM, but ultimately there is a Gestalt quality to Life which will never be “pinned down” via the Scientific Method–e.g a “scientist” can tell me which chemical changes take place in my brain when I am in love, but do those chemical changes = Love???? Not in a zillion years.
Angry Black Man
November 21st, 2009
10:52 am
GetaLife
Amen @ 10:33. Too bad they don’t realize that most minorities aren’t that petty to want to do the same things that were done to them. Most, not all, have moved beyond that thought process and are more concerned with other things.
wet wiccan
November 21st, 2009
10:53 am
For Bruno and all the other deadheads . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y3CafoJ2mo
And for the parrot heads . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wFpvRMIIEM&feature=related
Bruno
November 21st, 2009
10:53 am
“I knew that post would get your true feelings.”
Since you’ve already made up your mind that anyone who disagrees with you must be a racist, I won’t stand in the way of your fantasy.
“Black rule huh? Inform me.”
Maybe we could start with the fact that the school system was the first in the US in more than a 100 years to lose their accreditation. The level of corruption in the police force has already reached the tipping point. I’d invite you to do your own research, but your mind is already made up.
getalife
November 21st, 2009
10:58 am
Thanks ABM for your thoughts.
We are moving forward with or without the cons.
Bruno
November 21st, 2009
10:59 am
“Too bad they don’t realize that most minorities aren’t that petty to want to do the same things that were done to them. Most, not all, have moved beyond that thought process and are more concerned with other things.”
Maybe my attention is drawn to the more egregious examples, ABM, but what is your feeling about leaders like NO mayor Ray Nagin who made the infamous “Chocolate City” remark? Or Maynard Jackson who felt entitled to reap millions upon millions of dollars through his bond company via minority “set-asides” despite the fact that he was already extremely wealthy. Or both Bill Campbell and SHirley Jackson who both made remarks about looking after “their people”?
I’m the first to admit that things were unfair for AAs in this country for a long time. Ultimately, however, two wrongs never make a right. If a white candidate today spoke of “his people”, he or she would be lambasted by the media, yet folks like Nagin, Jackson, Campbell, and Franklin seem to get a free pass for their remarks.
Nothing Is Free
November 21st, 2009
11:01 am
getalife
“White POwer” works at the 7-11 and lives down at the trailer part.
And the extremely small number of nazi flags was a statement about how closely this administration resembles the National Socialist Workers Party.
Let me write the name of the party again: National Socialist Workers Party
National: So who believes in more and more power being given to the Fed?
Socialist: Who’s economic beliefs lean more toward socialism?
Workers Party: Sounds a little like a union, doesn’t it.
Bruno
November 21st, 2009
11:03 am
“For Bruno and all the other deadheads . . .”
Thanks for the positive vibe, wet wiccan. Things are getting ugly quickly this AM due to the tiresome racial accusations by getalife.
Nothing Is Free
November 21st, 2009
11:05 am
ABM
**Amen @ 10:33. Too bad they don’t realize that most minorities aren’t that petty to want to do the same things that were done to them.**
So who would you do anything to? The Republicans who fought beside minorities or against the Democrats who were sicing dogs on you?
getalife
November 21st, 2009
11:05 am
Bruno,
“I’m the first to admit that things were unfair for AAs in this country for a long time. Ultimately, however, two wrongs never make a right. If a white candidate today spoke of “his people”, he or she would be lambasted by the media, yet folks like Nagin, Jackson, Campbell, and Franklin seem to get a free pass for their remarks.”
That is the non violent karma of politics I was referring to.
Angry Black Man
November 21st, 2009
11:09 am
Morning everybody.
Special Saturday morning travelin’ music tailgating style:
ROLLLLLLLLLL TIDE ROLL!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgAj65Aw1Y
getalife
November 21st, 2009
11:09 am
ABM,
Who are they playing today?
AmVet
November 21st, 2009
11:21 am
B, what’s that line from that Knopfler song, Industrial disease?
“On ITV and BBC they talk about the curse, Philosophy is useless theology is worse…”
From that spectacular artist…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpqdLqYYpoY&feature=PlayList&p=C721D01E9E5598AF&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=49
Angry Black Man
November 21st, 2009
11:21 am
Bruno
I’ve stated quite often my opposition to Reed based on his perceived and verified connections to Franklin, Campbell, and Jackson. 20-25 years ago, I’d have been the first one to snatch up a white person for no reason. I blame it on a lack of knowledge and youthful indescretion. I’ve since grown up and have moved on from that line of thinking. I’ve taken flak on this site from referring to “my peeps”. I’ll continue to use that term as it morphs depending on what group I’m referring to. I’m black, male, a gov’t worker, law enforcement, a Mason, a Christian, Southern, and there’s many more groups I can claim. I have no problem with people using the term “my people”. Hell, I’d go as far as to say that’s what McCain wanted to say every time he said, “my friends”. In my opinion, for anyone to get a bug up their a$$ over that phrase shows their insecurities.
NIF
I wouldn’t do anything to anyone who hasn’t done anything to me personally or my family.
Angry Black Man
November 21st, 2009
11:22 am
getalife
UT-Chattanooga in Tuscaloosa @ 12p
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November 21st, 2009
11:24 am
Bruno:
Prude? Oh he’s called me, not only a prude, in the past, but names far more profane.
Funny how you and others here take up his mantle. As far as I’m concerned, AmVet is shrouded in his past attacks against Christians here.
Psalms 119:23 — Princes also did sit and speak against me: but thy servant did meditate in thy statutes.
One of the principle teachings found throughout Scripture is the guarantee that, if you are a true believer and you take up the mantle of God’s truth, you will face persecution.
Alrighty din! Bring it….I’m armored against AmVet’s little pings, or what he’d like to think are his IEDs.
Thppbbbtttt. He’s just a bitter ol’ man looking for fans.
AmVet exemplifies the liberal’s golden measure of “a man”.
I will do unto him as he does unto me.
Blog on, AmVet’s soldiers.
getalife
November 21st, 2009
11:25 am
ABM,
Yeah, they will roll today.
I will be cheering for them in the Championship game.
Angry Black Man
November 21st, 2009
11:30 am
getalife
If McElroy doesn’t get happy feet, we’ll pull it off. Florida will stack 8 in the box to stop Ingram. That will leave single coverage on the wide outs. As long as McElroy hits’em in the numbers, Bama will keep Florida on their heels. Hitting the receivers will force Florida to back off the line and green light our running game.
Nothing Is Free
November 21st, 2009
11:30 am
ABM
No one is saying that you would. But the conversation was heading to the gutter because of one specific poster who sends all conversations to the gutter.
I can’t stand by and let anyone associate conservatives with that nazi party. Democrats have always been the racists, and as we have discussed before, who is STILL refusing vouchers to allow Black children to attend great schools?
In the parts of the country where minorities have the least opportunities, who governs those parts? When the south became integrated, where did the Democrats go? And where schools are not integrated and most Black children attend schools almost as bad as the old dixiecrat segregated schools, who controls those school systems.
I think the Democrats are worse now than they were in the 1950s. And statistics regarding poorer Black people completely agree with me.
Nothing Is Free
November 21st, 2009
11:33 am
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When liberals start denouncing Astrology, chanting, women’s circles and all other types of new age garbage, I’ll start giving their anti-Christain rants a little more credibility.
josef nix
November 21st, 2009
11:35 am
There I was, frying crepes by the dozens singing joy, joy, joy and Jesus Love the Little Children, come back here and, sure enough, once more we’ve descended into a black-white discussion of race in America, mired in the dichotomies and rhetoric of a half-century gone…nasty assumptions that the people who live in manufactured housing are an inferior species and all of one race-class…Shame, shame!
Why haven’t we moved beyond that? Because we don’t want to. Haven’t we by now reached a point that we can call out a scoundrel for being a scoundrel regardless of the ethnic origin? Sure, there are problems and problems galore. Always have been and evidently always will be. It’s part of the fabric of a multi-ethnic society.
Maybe it’s just me, but DDR’s post to me last p.m. of Chris Rock on Ima Gonna spoke to progress, step-by-little step. For G-d’s sake, Salt Lake City passed an gay-friendly anti-discrimination ordinance, D*ickhead Cheney has come out swinging for his little girl’s right to be treated as an equal under the law.
For once,just once (and I put myself top of the list in those I’m preaching to) could we take a look at just what our country and our people have overcome on the way to living up to the ideals set down starting with the Carolina Charter, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments, the Indian Citizensip Act, the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act…it’s all us trying to live up to our better selves as individuals, as a society and as a nation…
OK, Sunday School is over and it’s back to filling crepes and being glad to be alive in time and place on a beautiful fall day…
Angry Black Man
November 21st, 2009
11:39 am
NIF
I understand your point. Personally, I don’t think the racist belong to any one party. They come in all shapes and sizes. I don’t agree with the attempt to paint the conservatives as nazi’s either. What most people don’t understand is that the black community shares more beliefs in common with the conservative movement than with the liberal. The big difference, however, is that we understand that everyone is different and most of us don’t try to force our beliefs on the community as a whole. There are exceptions to that however, and usually those exceptions are the most vocal and the most shown by media.
Clown Puncher
November 21st, 2009
11:45 am
Well, today’s the day when Democrats led by Dirty Hairy Reid and Nanny Pelosi try to F what’s remaining of this nation’s freedoms, that of choice of health care. Only a liberal would justify destroying what works perfectly fine for 84% of the US population (according to polling data) just so the other alleged 16% can have their “fair share.” Never mind that it comprises 20% of the US economy.
Ever notice how liberal Democrats never care to break down the demographics of that 16% with no health care insurance? You’ll never hear them bed wet over those 20-somethings who have a plan available through work and choose to not parlay in it to save that extra $100/month for party money thinking they’ll never get sick or fall down the stairs drunk. You’ll never hear them talk about the legal vs. illegal alien aspect. But okay, enough of that. There’s football going on. Who cares about government takeover of our health care and fining and JAILING those who don’t parlay in it? Who cares about rationing of services? The government morons couldn’t even handle swine flu vaccinations:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34046753/ns/health-cold_and_flu
But, let’s see what else is going on in Obamaland, shall we?
The fascist idiots running California are going to put bans on big screen LCD and plasma TVs sold there. While you liberal morons are at it, why not just ban PCs and Playstations and Xboxes?
“SACRAMENTO, Calif. – Most power-hungry TVs will be banned from store shelves in California after state regulators adopted a first-in-the nation mandate to lower electricity demand.”
And then there’s the lovely story of Obamamath and jobs that trillion dollar “stimulus” bill supposedly “saved or created.” Uh huh…
“Here’s a stimulus success story: In Arizona’s 15th congressional district, 30 jobs have been saved or created with just $761,420 in federal stimulus spending. At least that’s what the Web site set up by the Obama administration to track the $787 billion stimulus says. There’s one problem, though: There is no 15th congressional district in Arizona; the state has only eight districts.”
Hey, I thought Bush & Cheney blew up the New Orleans levees. The DNC liberal main stream media is LYING to us:
“NEW ORLEANS — A landmark court ruling blaming the Army Corps of Engineers’ “monumental negligence” for some of the worst flooding from Hurricane Katrina could lead to a new deluge: billions of dollars in legal action from thousands of storm victims.”
^^Government health care run like that competence^^ – what a laughable prospect. Who cares. Football is coming. Oh, sorry, I got off track. What else is going on. Oh yeah, got global warming?
“Climate researchers at the University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit may have intentionally and artificially skewed temperature data in studies. Now a stunning new example of biased science and policy has come to light. The University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit, one of the UK’s top climate research centers, has been hacked by an unknown party, who release an archive of the emails and data from the center. The emails in the archive contain evidence of misconduct and falsehoods, casting climate research done in a new light.”
Then this:
“Global warming appears to have stalled. Climatologists are puzzled as to why average global temperatures have stopped rising over the last 10 years. Some attribute the trend to a lack of sunspots, while others explain it through ocean currents.”
We’re sorry Al Gore and your mindless followers, but the “truth” of your Jim Jones preaching days are being exposed. The truth always comes out sooner or later.
Then there’s this Democrat congressman genius who wrote this resolution: STOP COMPLAINING!!!
“Sure, the economy sucks. Unemployment is at least 10.2% and, yes, if you include part-time workers who would rather have full-time jobs it may be over 17%. The government is showering our cash on Wall Street and burning through piles of our children and grandchildren’s money “saving” phantom jobs in Congressional Districts that don’t exist. Oh yeah, and Congress is planning for a government take-over of our health care system, legislating higher energy prices and raising taxes. Sheesh, no wonder we’re feeling blue.
Well, not to worry, three-term Congressman Emanuel Cleaver (D-MO) has found a solution: Stop Complaining So Much. Rep. Cleaver is currently circulating a “Dear Colleague” letter, seeking co-sponsors for House Concurrent Resolution 155, designating the day before Thanksgiving as the official “Complaint Free Wednesday.”
Democrats.
That reminds me of all the liberal DNC media stories about how they are spinning the unemployment data into a “good” thing by the fact it 1), reduces carbon emissions and gas consumption by everyone parking their butts at home and 2), allows parents to spend more quality time with their children at home while unemployed. Kid you not! Think these liberals in the DNC main stream media would have spun the news like that? PMSNBC is one of the worst at capitulating this Marxesque propoganda.
Stay tuned for more news…………….
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November 21st, 2009
11:47 am
NiF:
I DO enjoy your posts re: perpetual racism within the Democratic party. It’s why I’ve distanced myself from them. I get frustrated when I see how they use minorities for their political advantage.
josef’s not here, and I’ll be gone upon his return. The gay community’s demand for same-sex marriage will never be met by the dems. Why?
Because Survey by the Human Rights campaign, in the last three elections, registered the gay vote between 4 and 5 percent — a little over a half a million.
Blacks 40.2 million or 13.4 percent
Hispanics 46.9 million
Heck! gays don’t even qualify as a minority by the govt’s census definition.
It’s necessary for dems to leave a few stragglers behind. Causes left unaddressed are causes they can champion.
The only thing dem politicians are interested in is their power OVER the people.
Nothing Is Free
November 21st, 2009
11:47 am
josef
**Why haven’t we moved beyond that?**
Because it isn’t improving. It’s getting worse. And yes, here in Atlanta, the VAST majority of the people forced to go to horrible schools and are living in the worst places imaginable are STILL Black people. They are the most likely to be murdered and statistics about the future of poor Black children are more dire than they have been since emancipation
Now we have a half-white Harvard educated elitist that was raised in Honolulu by his white grandparents that is supposed to cure all wrongs of the past. Sorry. THe numbers of Black people out of work have gone through the roof and the 10.2 unemployment numbers that we all are facing is a fraction of the numbers of unemployed Black people.
When Democrats stop gaining power by the increasing numbers of poverty stricken poor people in this country, we are on our way to equality. But they are gaining huge amounts of powder right now on the backs of poor Americans and as per usual, poor Black people are getting it worse than anyone.
Bruno
November 21st, 2009
11:48 am
“In my opinion, for anyone to get a bug up their a$$ over that phrase shows their insecurities.”
If it were only empty rhetoric, ABM, I wouldn’t care in the least. Without going into any specifics, I’ve had friends of mine “hire” black figureheads for their companies solely to obtain contracts with the City of Atlanta. I’m talking dollars, not rhetoric.
“Why haven’t we moved beyond that? Because we don’t want to. Haven’t we by now reached a point that we can call out a scoundrel for being a scoundrel regardless of the ethnic origin?”
Maybe it’s simply a part of human nature, josef, we humans being the greedy, selfish creatures that we are. At some point, the racial double standard has to stop, however. Otherwise, true achievement by “minorities” will always be tainted in the minds of many.
Sorry for the detour this AM, but the ugly accusations of people like getalife without any facts to back it up don’t sit well with me. Ultimately, it is solely a reflection of his own prejudice, but I feel it needs addressing.
Clown Puncher
November 21st, 2009
11:50 am
“What most people don’t understand is that the black community shares more beliefs in common with the conservative movement than with the liberal. The big difference, however, is that we understand that everyone is different and most of us don’t try to force our beliefs on the community as a whole.”
Great comment ABM. Oh I understand it well. What I find interesting about your comment however is how black people have no problem with Democrat liberals forcing *their* beliefs on people. The latest case of course being what Jesse Jackson says: if you are black and don’t support the government takeover of health care, then you aren’t really black.
By the by: how’s that trillion dollar stimulus bill working out for the unemployed?
AmVet
November 21st, 2009
11:53 am
NIF, you may have missed it, but someone here noted your earlier reference to “liberal” astrology and came back with a classic rejoinder about Nancy Reagan.
As for chanting, it’s not my bag, but since you are a TR fan too…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1Z355eR0Bw
I’m not going to wade into this topic of race this morning.
I’ve fought my own demons, you guys fight yours…
Bruno
November 21st, 2009
11:55 am
wet wiccan–Naught, naughty with the Jimmy Buffett selection.
I’m going to do you one better this AM. How about Jimmy Buffet DOING the Dead:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5kRrTTsyfQ
@@
November 21st, 2009
11:57 am
Alright, I gotta share this….my husband’s opinion. It’s not a “poor pitiful me” message, only his acknowledged observation. When it comes to discrimination on the job, he says there’s no one more discriminated against than the white male. A heterosexual, white male can claim age discrimination, but that’s it.
A young to middle-aged white male? Forget about it — he hasn’t a chance in hell if fired unjustifiably.
Angry Black Man
November 21st, 2009
11:57 am
I agree with everyone assessments on race, but I think it goes deeper than what you’ve all stated. I don’t think race is what’s keeping the current status quo. I don’t think any one political party is more racist than the other. It all boils down to economics.
How many common $35k per year earning people are currently serving in Congress? It seems as if everyone in DC is either a lawyer or doctor or something. The common man/woman is getting screwed from the go. Those in power don’t give a sh*t about any of us. If they cared about the small business owner, they would have set up aid for them as opposed to GM, AIG, and others. If they cared about homeowners, the TARP funds could have been given directly to homeowners and might have paid off almost every mortgage in the country.
Why do you find the better performing schools in the higher income areas? Why are cities like Detroit and Gary, Indiana bleeding jobs but Silicon Valley is still sitting pretty? The only color that matters in the US is green, and it usually is surrounded by portraits of past Presidents.
Angry Black Man
November 21st, 2009
11:59 am
Clown Puncher
Any proof that blacks are applauding Jackson’s message?
Bruno
November 21st, 2009
12:01 pm
“ROLLLLLLLLLL TIDE ROLL!!!!”
I know you’re not a gambler, but the Alabama matchup is so one-sided today, they’re not putting a betting line out.
I’m afraid to put my picks out there this AM since I don’t feel very lucky today, but I picked Ohio State (-11 1/2) over Michigan, Temple (-10) over Kent State, and Air Force (+9 1/2) over BYU. Y’all can laugh at me later when they all crap out.
getalife
November 21st, 2009
12:01 pm
ABM,
My family knows Coach Gene Stallings that was carried off the field when Bama won the National Championship.
Yup, Tebow will step up his game so McElroy needs to step up his.
Who said we can’t discuss race in this country?
Yes, we can.
Nothing Is Free
November 21st, 2009
12:03 pm
ABM
I just don’t get it You are absolutely correct that on social issues more Blacks lean toward conservatism than liberalism. Blacks are more likely to be Christians, VERY active in their church, They are more likely to be anti-abortion and MUCH more likely to believe in capitalism.
So why do over 95& of Black people vote a straight Democratic ticket? Is it affirmative action? Is it the broken promises that are repeated every single election by the democrats promising a better future when they are the reasons why most Black people’s past has been so bad?
I think a lot of it is the fact that Republicans are horrible politicians and they have a hard time getting their message out. When everyone is wealthy, when everyone is successful, who does it hurt? The Democrats that suck the blood from poor people or Republicans who thrive during good economic times.
How have the democrats convinced Black people that Republicans don’t want them to succeed? Why would we not want them to succeed. And why would democrats want Black people to succeed.
I know, I am on my soap box again. My Black business partner is one of the finest men I know. He is still married to his wife of almost 50 years and their two daughters graduated from Spellman and are both wonderful and successful young women. He and his wife have never taken a dime from the government and when they are the most successful is when Capitalism is working the best, but they would rather die than support a Republican.
Joey
November 21st, 2009
12:03 pm
I should not do this because I cannot stay around to catch the arrows, but I will try to respond to anyone tonight or on Sunday afternoon or certainly Monday morning.
Are there countries on Earth with a majority white population and a majority white government:
* Where Blacks participate in government (elected offices) that their participation in the US?
* Where Blacks have a better opportunity to succeed in business than their opportunities in the US?
* Where Blacks have better educational opportunities that the educational opportunities in the US?
josef nix
November 21st, 2009
12:04 pm
ABM–elsewhere…
Joey
November 21st, 2009
12:05 pm
Damn. Those two “thats” should be “thans”.
Nothing Is Free
November 21st, 2009
12:05 pm
AmVet
I’m just glad that Nancy Reagan wasn’t our president.
@@
November 21st, 2009
12:10 pm
ABM:
Any proof that blacks are applauding Jackson’s message?
I have no way of knowing whether they’re black or not, but I’ll drag my post from jay’s “Jackson is reduced to a Parody” thread here for review.
@@
November 19th, 2009
1:40 pm
jay:
I don’t see much difference between Jackson’s comment and those offered up by your liberal contributors. Whenever black conservatives are put forth, they call them Uncle Toms.
“We even have blacks voting against the healthcare bill,” Jackson said at a reception Wednesday night. “You can’t vote against healthcare and call yourself a black man.”
Nope! Not much difference in my view.
Clown Puncher
November 21st, 2009
12:11 pm
“Any proof that blacks are applauding Jackson’s message?”
ABM – that wasn’t my point. My point was that black people vote within a 95th percentile for Democrats who attempt to shove *their* ideology down said throats. Your point was that Republicans (right wing Christian fundamentalists I presume) attempt to shove their views down peoples’ throats which is why you said black people don’t vote for conservative Republicans. I just gave you an example from the other side.
But to answer your immediate question, no, I don’t have any proof that blacks are applauding Jesse’s asinine comment. Not anymore than I have proof of any denouncing said comment. Let me know when you hear/read about someone denouncing it.
Bruno
November 21st, 2009
12:16 pm
“For G-d’s sake, Salt Lake City passed an gay-friendly anti-discrimination ordinance, D*ickhead Cheney has come out swinging for his little girl’s right to be treated as an equal under the law.”
And all while “liberal” states like Maine and California shoot down gay marriage legislation in a heartbeat. In the meantime, getalife calls me a racist when half my employees and all of my clients are black. I haven’t dated a “white” woman for several years now. My poker group includes every religious and ethnic group under the sun. Not that I have any obligation to establish my “credentials” today, but it’s pretty r-i-d-i-c-u-l-o-u-s for him to label people based on liberal/conservative political outlook without knowing the facts.
getalife
November 21st, 2009
12:18 pm
“I just don’t get it .”
So true and never will until the blind partisan hatred of the other side cease to exist.
How many AA’s are there in Congress and which party do they belong?
I chuckled when Burris played the game and got a slap on the wrist.
Bruno
November 21st, 2009
12:20 pm
“Who said we can’t discuss race in this country?”
Maybe it’s just my opinion, but I don’t think automatically labeling anyone who disagrees with you a racist constitutes actual discussion.
“I’m not going to wade into this topic of race this morning. I’ve fought my own demons, you guys fight yours…”
Probably a wise choice Am. I prefer to speak up in the tradition of “When good men remain silent…..”
Enjoyed the Dire Straits selection.
Clown Puncher
November 21st, 2009
12:20 pm
Obamamath:
“WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Barack Obama’s job approval rating has dropped below 50 percent in a second major poll in an indication he is suffering from the long healthcare debate and weakness in the economy, Gallup said on Friday.”
You Obama voters do realize that he’s just a pawn in the power trip of Pelosi & Reid, no? To them, he’s an expendable asset in their quest to gain more and more power over We The People.
It’s rather ironic actually. Everything liberal Democrats said the Bush administration and Republicans in congress were (when in power) are the EXACT thing that Democrats ARE while in power *now*.
And let’s give a hand to the AP, who quintessentially assisted in Obama’s election success, dedicating 11 “reporters” in fact checking Palin’s book. Did the AP dedicate even ONE “fact checking reporter” to a book written by Pelosi or Obama? Yeah, thought not. Laughable.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/17/ap-turns-heads-devoting-reporters-palin-book-fact-check/
getalife
November 21st, 2009
12:20 pm
“getalife calls me a racist”
Link please.
Methinks you have some guilt and issues.
Nothing Is Free
November 21st, 2009
12:25 pm
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**I DO enjoy your posts re: perpetual racism within the Democratic party. **
ABM and I have discussed this several times, but no one, other than him will even offer a debate. I think that is why I have so much respect for the guy. And the discussions are always civil and respectful. (Next year when Tennessee starts kicking their butt in football, that may change.
)
But no one discusses this. I’ve never heard anything about it on FOX News or any other news discussion show. Limbaugh nor Hannity will discuss it. The democrats will NEVER allow it to be the topic of discussion, not on this blog and not on any forum. I see it as one of the worst things that the democrats perpetuate.
When people like Jay Bookman start addressing it, things might begin to change, but no Democrat wants to face the reality of what their own party is doing to the hopes and dreams of minorities. They will talk and talk and talk about the promises that are made, but they will never address the failure of those promises
Common Sense
November 21st, 2009
12:25 pm
Anyone want to debate this ??
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A German’s View on Islam
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A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.
“Very few people were true Nazis,” he said, “but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen.
Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.”
We are told again and again by “experts” and “talking heads” that Islam is the religion of peace, and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant.
It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the spectra of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.
The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder or honor-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.
The hard quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the “silent majority,” is cowed and extraneous.
Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority was irrelevant.
China’s huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.
The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a war mongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel and bayonet.
And who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were “peace loving”?
History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don’t speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.
Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.
As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts: the fanatics who threaten our way of life.
Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious and just deletes this email without sending it on is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand. So, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on! Let us hope that thousands, world wide, read this and think about it, and send it on before it’s too late.
And remember, the first thing the fanatics will do to the silent majority is to disarm them.
Gerhard Gr�newald
Franzensbader Str.19
14193 Berlin
Bruno
November 21st, 2009
12:28 pm
“So true and never will until the blind partisan hatred of the other side cease to exist.”
And at what point are you going to address your own blind partisan hatred?? It’s obvious to everyone but yourself, apparently, or you wouldn’t be making the sweeping condemnations that you do.
The reason I speak up against people like you is that by playing the race card at every opportunity, you effectively shut down any meaningful conversation. Not sure if that’s your goal or not, but that’s the effect. There’s too many important issues on the table right now (such as my credit card rate being tripled due to bad Democratic legislation) to let hate-mongerers like you dictate whose opinions are worthy of consideration.
Back in a while, gotta go check on my losing football picks.
getalife
November 21st, 2009
12:28 pm
bither,
No, we can’t debate paranoid and crazy.
Perhaps a mental health professional can debate your mindset.
Geez, take off your tin foil hat and join the sane becker.
Clown Puncher
November 21st, 2009
12:29 pm
Common sense: what’s there to discuss? The DNC lame stream liberal media fell over backwards trying to perpetuate the Muslim convert Army officer shooting into some sort of pseudo pre-combat stress disorder.
Hell even one of the queens of the DNC liberal lame stream media, Chris “tingling leg feeling” Matthews asked “it’s not a crime to call Al Qaeda is it?”
Nothing Is Free
November 21st, 2009
12:29 pm
getaclue
**How many AA’s are there in Congress and which party do they belong?**
Thanks for proving my point. Please point out a single district that is represented by those leaders that can crow about the quality of the educational system that they have provided for the children of their constituents.
Here’s a hint: yet another one of your adolescent snide remarks will only make you look even more clueless ands foolish (if that is possible)
Bruno
November 21st, 2009
12:29 pm
“Link please.”
10:43
“Methinks you have some guilt and issues.”
And methinks you are a POS. Fair enough?
getalife
November 21st, 2009
12:30 pm
“shut down any meaningful conversation”
I beg to differ ^^^.
@@
November 21st, 2009
12:32 pm
Oh, Clown Punchers 12:20 reminded me. Add the label “misogynist” to the dem party. They, with malice aforethough, threw Hillary under the bus during the campaign. Could’a been gender or age discrimination on their part.
Common Sense
November 21st, 2009
12:33 pm
To getalife:
Well, I guess Clown Puncher sure showed you !
You guys amaze me (actually disgust is a better word).
But alas, I digress …………..
Off to watch football ………….
Nothing Is Free
November 21st, 2009
12:35 pm
getaclue
**No, we can’t debate paranoid and crazy.**
If that were the case, Debating paranoid and crazy would be the easiest thing to debate. I do it every day. Just present reasons why the other person’s views are paranoid and crazy.
But apparently, you don’t have the education, the intelligence or the control of your emotions to do it.
Again, with every post, you prove me right, so please, keep doing what you do.
getalife
November 21st, 2009
12:36 pm
Yes, we did digress to name calling but did discuss race.
Then you cut and ran.
Typical but we are making progress and we are moving forward.
Common Sense
November 21st, 2009
12:36 pm
P.S. to getalife:
You’re just like some of those peaceful good German citizens who moved upwind of the ovens so the smoke wouldn’t bother them.
But, that really doesn’t surprise me ………………
getalife
November 21st, 2009
12:42 pm
cons are hilarious.
That was fun but let’s address a new topic.
Joe The Plumber Comes Out Against Palin Running In 2012.
Nothing Is Free
November 21st, 2009
12:42 pm
getaclue
**Then you cut and ran.**
When people offer you paragraph after paragraph of logical and well written debate and you offer nothing but one line insults, people do tend to begin their understand own limitations. With you it isn’t a matter of presenting opinions that you might challenge, it is the equivalent of trying to discuss particle dynamics with a dog. You do not have the education or the intelligence to keep up so you do what you do.
getalife
November 21st, 2009
12:45 pm
“You’re just like some of those peaceful good German citizens who moved upwind of the ovens so the smoke wouldn’t bother them.”
Yeah right nif.
Too funny.
Let’s move on from that brilliant discussion.
Nothing Is Free
November 21st, 2009
12:45 pm
Common Sense
**Off to watch football ………….**
I with you, Pal.
Outta here
Nothing Is Free
November 21st, 2009
12:46 pm
getaclue
**Yeah right nif.**
I didn’t write that. One of your other fans did.
Do you enjoy looking like a fool?
getalife
November 21st, 2009
12:46 pm
And this gem of powerful debate:
“And methinks you are a POS. Fair enough?”
LOL.
AmVet
November 21st, 2009
12:50 pm
“It’s rather ironic actually. Everything liberal Democrats said the Bush administration and Republicans in congress were (when in power) are the EXACT thing that Democrats ARE while in power *now*.”
A slight exaggeration but your point is valid, Clown. Very valid.
Though some of the regulars here screamed that BHO was the” most liberal” man in the known universe.
Nonsense.
And I said as much last fall.
And remember these are the same people who contended year after year after year that George Bush and the neo-cons were conservatives.
The R&D Party duopoly owns them, and they don’t even realize it…
Clown Puncher
November 21st, 2009
12:52 pm
“Joe The Plumber Comes Out Against Palin Running In 2012.”
Hey get – you do realize that Joe Wurzelbacher is (was) an ordinary blue collar citizen who merely asked Obama (how DARE he) a question about taxes, right? The DNC lame stream media and fellow liberal goons went after him like a lab to water fowl. He didn’t ask for the fame, he just asked a question. Obama couldn’t handle it unscripted, and the rest, as they say, is history.
Angry Black Man
November 21st, 2009
12:56 pm
Sorry about the delay. PC issues today. I think the computer it trying to remind me that Bama’s playing.
Clown Puncher & NIF(in regards to the 95% vote)
I wasn’t trying to single out any one group. I think many of the “special interests” groups go way beyond necessary to get their point across. Like my earlier statement, I don’t think it’s a matter of race. I believe it’s more economic than anything. Poor whites get treated just the same as poor blacks. You don’t hear much about it, I believe, because the poor whites don’t have anyone to speak up on their behalf. I think the overwhelming reason blacks support Democrats over Republicans is that the Dems pay lip service to the economic problems that poor people face.
You can tell people all day to pull themselves up by their bootstraps until your face turns blue, but what if they’re wearing sandals? If Republicans did more to alleviate the economic disparaties in this country as opposed to just cheerleading “If I can do it, so can you”, I think there would be a massive shift to the Republican party. At the same time, if the Democrats don’t begin to actually do something about the economic problems, they stand a chance to drive more away. Mind you, there will be the sheep that will follow either party no matter what they do.
NIF
Clown Puncher
November 21st, 2009
12:56 pm
“And remember these are the same people who contended year after year after year that George Bush and the neo-cons were conservatives.”
Amvet – George HW Bush was no conservative either. Neither is Olympia Snow, McCain, and a host of other “Rinos” who the left likes to prop up as the future of the Republican party.
getalife
November 21st, 2009
12:56 pm
AmVet,
Their bias does not allow them to see this obvious fact.
Libs want to boycott sending money for the dems.
Then the cons are attacking their moderates.
It’s interesting because I don’t think I have seen this before.
Then the
AmVet
November 21st, 2009
12:57 pm
Clown, so what or who is the future of the GOP?
Clown Puncher
November 21st, 2009
12:59 pm
ABM:
” I think the overwhelming reason blacks support Democrats over Republicans is that the Dems pay lip service to the economic problems that poor people face. You can tell people all day to pull themselves up by their bootstraps until your face turns blue, but what if they’re wearing sandals? If Republicans did more to alleviate the economic disparaties in this country as opposed to just cheerleading “If I can do it, so can you.”
Obviously giving and giving and giving and building more and more and more public and low income housing hasn’t done much to alleviate minority poverty since LBJ’s Great Society, has it?
Clown Puncher
November 21st, 2009
1:02 pm
“Clown, so what or who is the future of the GOP?”
The GOP just needs to return to its roots, that’s all. About 15 years ago worth of roots, to be exact. They’re getting it together and realizing their horrid mistakes after the 2006 (and 08) beat down.
getalife
November 21st, 2009
1:06 pm
CP,
So the gop needs to move backwards and not forward?
We know fiscal con is “lip service”
And tax cuts are for the wealthy in a time of wars.
So what are the roots?
Clown Puncher
November 21st, 2009
1:07 pm
Oh, and AmVet – Palin ain’t it. Inspiring may she be, spark is she, but electable she’s not.
{yoda impersonation mode off}
Clown Puncher
November 21st, 2009
1:09 pm
“So the gop needs to move backwards and not forward?”
Get – moving “forward” is not moving left to the GOP. Sorry to disappoint.
“And tax cuts are for the wealthy in a time of wars.”
Considering the mere 10% of top income US households provide nearly 75% of all IRS income tax revenue taken in, I’d say that any tax cuts coming would go to the majority of them. Anything less would be income redistribution, Marxist style.
What are you for?
getalife
November 21st, 2009
1:12 pm
CP,
Answer the question and don’t give me that free unregulated market crap that collapsed our economy.
What “roots” are you talking about?
AmVet
November 21st, 2009
1:12 pm
“Then the cons are attacking their moderates.”
getalife, it is this very immoderation that is such a turn off for me.
And apparently many millions of others. Finally.
I think in most ways we all want the same things.
In my view, it is time to replace money as a god with another model in this nation.
Unbridled greed and concentrated power has brought us to this sorry mess.
.
Remember when we as a people valued Americans for who they were and not just for what they had?
Clown, I’m not sure what those values/roots were 15 years ago. Serioulsy.
Can you expound?
I am seriously interested in hearing your opinion as to who on the horizon can steer the current GOP away from the rocks.
The answer is there is too much power and too much wealth in too few hands and the few control our government and the few create the problems and the injustices for the many and have less and less interest in doing anything about it because they can get away with it. ~Ralph Nader, 1996
@@
November 21st, 2009
1:12 pm
AmVet:
You know why I won’t vote third party in a national election? Because YOU encourage it.
Only if the R&D party were forced to sit one out, would I vote third. Even then, you or I would likely be voting for a ringer. New York’s 23rd proved that. The “moderate” (cough) dem immediately reneged on 4 of his campaign promises.
You’re a ShamVet and a ScamVet, AmVet.
Clown Puncher
November 21st, 2009
1:14 pm
““And tax cuts are for the wealthy in a time of wars.”
Had to address this again:
1) Bush’s tax cuts are set to expire.
2) Republicans have been out of power in congress for nearly three years and Democrats have controlled the entire legislative and executive branch of government for nearly a year.
So, what’s your point about wars again?
getalife
November 21st, 2009
1:17 pm
Nice dodge clown.
The root question too hard for you?
Just say so.
Angry Black Man
November 21st, 2009
1:18 pm
Clown Puncher
And it never will. As NIF has stated earlier, if you continue to keep them in poverty, they continue to need someone to get them out of it. Both parties are equally culpable in maintaing the status quo. Both parties have had legislative and executive control and could have put measures in place to alleviate those issues, but neither party has done that. Rather, they continue to maintain the current situation.
AmVet
November 21st, 2009
1:26 pm
OK, gotta run and buy a washing machine. (MY 27 year old Sears finally gave out!)
I’ll catch up with you later, CP…
ABM, played this one for you earlier, but not sure if you saw it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeEcyZkg59Y
Great lyrics…
There ain’t a man alive today
Who doesn’t want to have the world in his hand
And everything to go his way
And abuse what he don’t understand
Some people never can be satisfied
Less they push somebody else around
But I can’t give no aid or take no side
I just watch them drag each other down because
Some folks is even whiter than me
Some folks is even blacker than me
I got myself caught in the middle somewhere
And that’s just where I want to be
I’m talking bout the outside
Talking bout the inside too
Clown Puncher
November 21st, 2009
1:31 pm
“Nice dodge clown. The root question too hard for you? Answer the question and don’t give me that free unregulated market crap that collapsed our economy.”
Get – I see government bailouts, “stimulus” bills, and other government “help” is doing wonders for our economy and unemployment.
The question was answered indirectly with a 15 year reference point. Look up Newt’s Contract With America (which the neocons ripped up).
The GOP is now working on a CWA2.
Clown Puncher
November 21st, 2009
1:33 pm
“So, what’s your point about wars again?”
Now you answer mine, get……
@@
November 21st, 2009
1:33 pm
I posted this, but it misappeared.
Listen to Wayne Perry (a black man) hosting The Michael Medved Show.
Awesome!
@@
November 21st, 2009
1:34 pm
Our conservative black neighbor sent ^^^ that to my husband.
Kewl!
getalife
November 21st, 2009
1:36 pm
clown,
The contract with America II ?
And you expect a different result?
Look up he definition of insanity.
ABM,
Obama should not be preaching “personal responsibility” when he is handing out billions of socialized corporate welfare to his donors.
The gap has never been greater.
Clown Puncher
November 21st, 2009
1:36 pm
“Considering the mere 10% of top income US households provide nearly 75% of all IRS income tax revenue taken in, I’d say that any tax cuts coming would go to the majority of them. Anything less would be income redistribution, Marxist style. What are you for?”
Yeah and you can go ahead and answer that question posed to you as well, get………..
Clown Puncher
November 21st, 2009
1:38 pm
“The contract with America II? And you expect a different result?”
Until the Pelosicrats provide alternatives, anything is possible to believe in. The current course this nation is being steered is not what I support. It’s that simple.
getalife
November 21st, 2009
1:40 pm
clown,
Then you do not want gop to collapse the economy again.
Good for you.
RW-(the original)
November 21st, 2009
1:42 pm
Bama 35 Sisters of the Poor 0 with five minutes left in the second quarter. You might think SotP is being embarrassed, but if I were an Alabama fan or alum I’d be embarrassed to have scheduled this game.
Clown Puncher
November 21st, 2009
1:43 pm
Just to knock the point home about government “help” in our economy (means OUR tax dollars):
“The worst is yet to come: Unemployed Americans should hunker down for more job losses”
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2009/11/15/2009-11-15_the_worst_is_yet_to_come_unemployed_americans_should_hunker_down_for_more_job_lo.html
The ignoring of the Democrats doctoring employment and “stimulus” data by Democrat liberals on this blog is duly noted by the way………
getalife
November 21st, 2009
1:45 pm
There is no new direction for the gop.
Your hero w is back to fight against regulations for his friends so the economy can collapse again.
That is your agenda.
Clown Puncher
November 21st, 2009
1:48 pm
“Then you do not want gop to collapse the economy again. Good for you.”
That’s rather ironic. The economic data I see says two things: 1) “fair” housing and cheap loans (Democrat pipe dreams) assisted in this collapse when Republicans wanted to increase Fannie/Freddie regulations (just ask Democrat Barney “there is no financial crisis” Frank), and 2), the false economy that boomed over the past 20 years was just that.
Hey, here’s a good read for you on who’s to blame. Clue: it goes back WAY before Bush II:
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,1877351,00.html
The real world is out there, bud.
RW-(the original)
November 21st, 2009
1:48 pm
getalife,
I see they’ve finally bribed Mary Landreiu enough to vote yes tonight. What did y’all get?
getalife
November 21st, 2009
1:52 pm
RW,
100 million dollars.
Angry Black Man
November 21st, 2009
1:52 pm
@@
It’s a good listen. It’s oviously a pro-Bush statement, and he speaks true statements about Bush. The big disagreement I have with his laurels of Bush is entitlement programs. I believe that entitlement programs are necessary evils in some cases, but overall they do more harm than good. On one hand, they don’t offer enougn encouragement to the person receiving the benefits to try to better themselves to the point where they can sustain themselves without help. Then, the entitlement programs also becomes an issue where people in opposition to them can hammer the “lazy mentality” message.
What most people need is a hand up and not a hand out. It’s the same as the parable of teaching a man to fish. However, with no way of supporting yourself because of jobs being outsourced and limited opportunites because of the lack of a strong education, the future is bleak for those who find themselves in the entitlement spiral.
Clown Puncher
November 21st, 2009
1:52 pm
Getalife can sure throw questions out there in rapid fire but can’t answer any in return, can’t he?
Nothing Is Free
November 21st, 2009
1:52 pm
ABM
**Both parties have had legislative and executive control and could have put measures in place to alleviate those issues, but neither party has done that.**
I understand what you are saying, but the education of children is left to the cash distribution of the local governments. Yes, the idea that Federal Matching funds for education is based entirely on the property tax rates of that district, resulting in even more money going to rich kids’ schools than poor kids’ schools. But when I see Obama claiming to want to spread the wealth around, this is not what he is talking about. He is talking about simply taking money from the people that earn it and giving it to the people haven’t earned it.
I don’t want wealth distribution, I want opportunity distribution. It isn’t a matter of pulling one up by their bootstraps. Like you said, many people wear sandals. But those sandals are (metaphorically speaking) the lack of opportunities in depressed areas and more than anything the lack of a good education.
Republicans have tried to offer solutions to those problems, but Democrats fight them any way they can. The voucher program is the perfect example.
We were very poor, but just a matter of geographic luck made it possible for me to attend one of the top 50 academically rated high schools in the country. I hated it. I hated the fact that my cousins who attended the county schools never had homework and I ALWAYS had homework.
But I was able to move to a city like Atlanta and compete here, while they are still back home, going from one dead end job to another.
EDUCATION IS EVERYTHING!!! Democrats control all the schools in low income districts. It’s a fact. When education becomes a priority instead of handouts that guarantee votes to the Democrats, I will agree that it is the fault of both parties.
I’ll quote him again, but when the Head of the Black Chamber of Commerce was told in a TV debate that Democrats love Black people, he said: “Democrats love poor Black people who know their place.” I could not agree more.