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On last night’s show, Jon Stewart caught Fox News agitator Sean Hannity in a blatant deception. Trying to demonstrate a turnout of “twenty-plus thousand” at a Washington rally led by Rep. Michele Bachman, the folks at Fox spliced in footage of a much larger rally that actually occurred two months earlier. It’s hard to imagine such a thing could have been done inadvertently, and I can tell you that in the newspaper industry, conscious deception of that sort would be grounds for immediate firing.
Fox officials, contacted for an explanation by the New York Times, would say only that ““Sean will address this on his show tonight.”
Personally, I won’t be watching. I don’t watch any of those shows, right or left. But what do you predict? Does Hannity apologize for the attempted deception, or does he try to bluster his way through and somehow blame Stewart for it? I’m leaning toward the second approach myself.
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jt
November 11th, 2009
4:13 pm
Jay Bookman-
As per your logic last night,
concerning your previous topic,
since the Georgia Supreme court has not ruled about the defense of the accused,
then everything is alright.
As long, or until, the supreme court gets involved, everything is legal.
jt
November 11th, 2009
4:14 pm
And constitutional.
@@
November 11th, 2009
4:17 pm
Funniest thing about all this is how Stewart, inadvertently displayed the previous masses in an attempt to burn Hannity.
Works for me!
@@
November 11th, 2009
4:22 pm
BTW, I like Stewart. Much funnier than that Colbert guy.
Hilarious, in fact.
Paul
November 11th, 2009
4:25 pm
I’ll guess it’ll be something along the lines of “we used stock footage and shouldn’t have.”
Next question: were there really 20,000+ people protesting? Did it get coverage on other networks? Which ones? How does coverage compare, with, say, a demonstration of 20,000 or more (or less) protesting the Iraq war?
Jay
November 11th, 2009
4:26 pm
Actually, JT, the Supreme Court IS involved. Deeply involved.
The case was argued this week before the Supreme Court.
And the rule requiring two experienced defense attorneys in a death-penalty case is a rule imposed by Supreme Court in previous cases as needed to meet constitutional minimums.
AmVet
November 11th, 2009
4:30 pm
Silly teabagging astro-turfers.
And Faux News’ Pretty Boy Sean does make me laugh.
You gotta love America, loons entertaining loons…
Paul
November 11th, 2009
4:31 pm
Dang, I don’t watch his show but I’m gonna have to record it.
thank heavens for fast forward…
jt
November 11th, 2009
4:31 pm
Well, that is cause for faith.
A miniscule amount.
Angry Black Man
November 11th, 2009
4:32 pm
Paul
I was thinking the same thing. Either that, or the editing guy sequenced the wrong footage when editing the montage for the story. One of these days, I’m gonna attend a Tea Party myself so I can see what all the hubbub is about.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 11th, 2009
4:32 pm
and I can tell you that in the newspaper industry, conscious deception of that sort would be grounds for immediate firing.
Then you should be able to name hundreds of people fired from the Urinal but I’ll settle for a disclosure of just one.
Jay
November 11th, 2009
4:33 pm
I should note that henceforth, the words “teabagging” and “teabaggers” will put you into moderation. AmVet, you just made it under the deadline.
Pogo
November 11th, 2009
4:35 pm
Anybody noticed how flimsy our currency seems to be lately? A twenty has about the same physical consistency as a piece of toilet paper. I guess when you print so much you have to cut back on the costs where you can. Still, it feels like Mexican money to me. Doesn’t feel substantial. Hummmm.
Angry Black Man
November 11th, 2009
4:40 pm
AmV
You have to ask yourself one question, do you feel lucky, punk? Well, do ya?
Jay
November 11th, 2009
4:41 pm
April 23, 2005
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution announces the resignation of staff writer Al Levine, saying he plagiarized passages from the Daytona Beach News-Journal and the Orlando Sentinel in two articles about the Daytona 500 race.
April 29, 2006
AJC reporter Don Plummer resigned amid allegations that he used unattributed passages from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in a March 3, 2006 story about a suspended chiropractor from Pittsburgh who was convicted of cocaine possession in Cobb County, Georgia in 1993. An AJC editor discovered similarities in both articles as a follow-up story was being discussed.
AmVet
November 11th, 2009
4:41 pm
Howzat?
You know all this time, I thought it had something to do with the Boston Tea Party, but alas the Urban Dictionary disabused me of that!
Zounds! Oh well no worries JB (and ABM), you know how creative I can be when it comes to that virtual silencer.
Let my people go!
@@
November 11th, 2009
4:43 pm
ABM:
I do hope you attend a Tea Party (haven’t attended one myself) but you’re likely to run into another Angry Black Man — he’s my neighbor….I LUV HIM TO DEATH!!!
He’s been giving David Scott what for.
I make his signs for him.
Mrs. Godzilla
November 11th, 2009
4:43 pm
Hannity….he’ll bluster or maybe blame it on the help or point to the word earlier in tiny type….
Here’s something wonderful for y’all….
The Late Movies: Dogs Welcoming Home Soldiers
http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/40324
Nothing Is Free
November 11th, 2009
4:43 pm
Using stock footage for a protest rally? Say it ain’t so.
But according to almost everyone here, FOX is always lying, but this gets attention from Jon Stewart and the New York Times.
So could I be right that all news channels tell the truth, but just their side of the truth?
A producer at FOX put together footage of the protests that should have had Sean’s voice over going along with it. The script might have originally been designed for Hannity to refer to the earlier protests but he was distracted by the guest on his show.
A tempest in a tea pot, but as long as the ultra-reliable comedian that most half-wits depend on for their news calls out the dogs, it must be REALLY, REALLY important.
And Jay, if an incorrect picture would mean immediate dismissal, you wouldn’t have anyone still working at the newspaper. I’m amazed that you said that.
Angry Black Man
November 11th, 2009
4:43 pm
AmV
I just didn’t want to see you wearing the scarlet “M”. I was worried about you.
Paul
November 11th, 2009
4:44 pm
ABM
Well, my elderly mom visited and believe it or not I made scones, got her some Tiptree Little Scarlett preserves (12 bucks a jar) and some clotted cream. And tea, natch.
She’d always wanted to do that, I was able and given her age didn’t want any regrets. Nice party.
Let us know how the Taxed Enough Already version is.
BTW – I’ll wager a bunch of those attending don’t pay nearly as much in Fed taxes as they think they do – that’d be a great question for a reporter, eh?
AmVet
November 11th, 2009
4:45 pm
I guess in retrospect, it makes sense.
Why would those BushCo dolts protest against taxation without representation after King George the Socialist bailed out those Wall Street cronies of his last September?
Silly teafloggers…
Angry Black Man
November 11th, 2009
4:45 pm
@@
I’ve given it serious thought. I’m just curious about the different people there and their motivations.
Soothsayer
November 11th, 2009
4:47 pm
Pollution in China
You know me, never on topic. I guarantee you find this interesting if not disturbing.
jasper
November 11th, 2009
4:48 pm
My guess is that Hannity will yuk it off and say it was done on purpose to test how closely the left is watching and that he must be doing a great job if they’re watching him like that. Then he’ll muse mischievously about all the stuff he’s gotten away with. Then he’ll start in on Rev. Wright again.
Why I like to read books at night.
getalife
November 11th, 2009
4:50 pm
Clinton to Dems: “The reason the tea-bag-gers are so inflamed is because we are winning”
Moderate that.
Geez.
Bruno
November 11th, 2009
4:50 pm
From the previous thread:
“The rights of these health care freeloaders end when they begin to impinge on mine. I’m sick of hearing from these paper libertarians who think they can sock me if they happen to need hospital care. If it takes a fine to force them to buy health insurance, then so be it. At least they’ll be paying something.”
Jay attempted to use the same argument a few months ago, and like you, failed to provide any data to bolster the claim. Here’s a link which shows that only 5% of all hospital inpatient discharges were due to the “uninsured”:
http://content.healthaffairs.org/cgi/content/full/22/6/143
Gerald
November 11th, 2009
4:50 pm
” I don’t watch any of those shows, right or left.”
How disgusting. Yet another attempt by the pro-gay marriage, pro-abortion, pro-tax, pro-social program, pro-environmentalist, anti-gun, Bookman to peddle the “I’m a moderate, not a liberal” line. I wonder how long it’s going to be before another “I used to be a Republican! Really I did!” comment from this guy. If he and Cynthia Tucker were to be honest about their left-liberal convictions, I wouldn’t mind one bit. After all, it is the op-ed page for a liberal paper. But it is their “we are moderates!” nonsense that is revolting. Like being to the right of the Marxist lunatic fringe makes you a moderate. Well gee, since Ronald Reagan and John Ashcroft aren’t avowed segregationists, that makes them moderates too, right?
Just wait till the “moderate” Bookman (and his friendship in “moderation” Tucker) equate Islamic jihadist terrorists to Baptists. For the millionth time.
Nothing Is Free
November 11th, 2009
4:51 pm
Did anyone see CNN referring to the armed white people that showed up at a rally last spring, where they had a tight shot of a man carrying an assault weapon?
CNN used that shot on every news cast they ran for the entire week, talking about the way white people were so eeevil. FOX used the same clip, except they let it continue until the videographer zoomed out and revealed that the person carrying the weapon WAS A BLACK MAN. So CNN’s NEWS DEPARTMENT purposefully edited a clip so that no one could tell that it was a Black man while going after white people for carrying weapons
I guess Jon Stewart missed that obvious lie that was used over and over again.
Once the standards that a comedian sets for FOX is carried into the mainstream, pardon me for not considering this any sort of big deal. And Jay, you KNOW it isn’t a big deal, but hey, why let the facts stand in the way of going after FOX.
@@
November 11th, 2009
4:51 pm
Well, how do? I just went back to catch Joey’s reinstated post. Looked for the one to which he was responding. Low and behold, obvious as can be, there’s half of my @@ inserted in jewcowboy’s use of the same word.
I’m all woman, jewcowboy, not half of ah…
Angry Black Man
November 11th, 2009
4:52 pm
Paul
You made scones??!!
As far as the taxes being paid, that would be a good question to ask. Personally, I have no problem with paying taxes. My problem is what the elected idiots do with my tax dollars. People who want to pay little to no taxes should be allowed to do so if they feel that way, but only if they are not allowed to access the services that other taxpayers are paying for. To appease the crowd that complains about the people not paying taxes, set a base amount that all people have to pay and then gradually adjust the rate by income.
RW-(the original)
November 11th, 2009
4:55 pm
Is the topic that were actually supposed to speculate on what Hannity will say? I’ll say the same thing I said a few floors down. If the footage is accurate he should apologize for showing it. Then he ought to get footage from protests far and wide labeling them all accurately as separate events showing how widespread this movement is.
/For those of you scoring at home my computer is touch and go at best….anybody seen any great deals on desktops, computer only would suffice.
@@
November 11th, 2009
4:56 pm
ABM:
I’d say the majority of the Tea Party Protesters are average folk. I think that may be what the elitist left holds against ‘em.
Average….just like you and I.
getalife
November 11th, 2009
4:57 pm
RW,
I was hoping you would get another and try out Win 7 for me.
Bruno
November 11th, 2009
4:57 pm
Meanwhile, Pricewaterhouse Coopers estimates that 55% of all health care dollars spent in this country are wasted:
http://www.pwc.com/us/en/healthcare/publications/the-price-of-excess.jhtml
From the article:
“Our research found that wasteful spending in the health system has been calculated at up to $1.2 trillion of the $2.2 trillion spent in the United States, more than half of all health spending. Defensive medicine, such as redundant, inappropriate or unnecessary tests and procedures, was identified as the biggest area of excess, followed by inefficient healthcare administration and the cost of care necessitated by conditions such as obesity, which can be considered preventable by lifestyle changes. PricewaterhouseCoopers’ paper classified health system inefficiencies into three “wastebaskets” that are driving up costs:”
RW-(the original)
November 11th, 2009
4:58 pm
Anybody ever seen the footage just about any outfit shows when they pretend to be showing why we shouldn’t drill in ANWR? Tell me that isn’t willful deception.
DoggoneGA
November 11th, 2009
4:58 pm
My bet: he’ll give a non-apology apology
Pogo
November 11th, 2009
4:59 pm
Jay, why stop Amvet? I mean its not like you don’t allow progressives here the liberty to call conservatives (or anyone else that doesn’t agree with them) derogratory names pretty much on a daily basis is it? I mean without name calling, where would: (1) Mrs. Godzilla (2) Amvet (3) Midori (4) Public Option, etc. etc. be? Name calling, now that is a REAL indicator of participant intelligence, isn’t it? If I have learned one thing from this blog, it is that the liberals are the most bitter and they are the ones most likely to enter into the low brow game of name calling. If you don’t believe it, keep the numbers on this blog yourself. Libs outnumber conservatives in this boorish practice 10 to 1.
Matilda
November 11th, 2009
5:00 pm
I once got flipped off while holding up a “Moms for Peace” sign during a quiet, candlelight protest. I wondered, which part merited the obscenity? Mom or Peace? People sure do have issues.
Bruno
November 11th, 2009
5:02 pm
To summarize, uninsured hospital visits accounted for 5% of inpatient discharges. Waste accounted for 55% of all health care spending. So, take a wild guess as to which of these two areas is the focus of the Democratic legislation.
RW-(the original)
November 11th, 2009
5:02 pm
getalife,
I found a desktop without an operating system for $279.00, but the salesgirl told me it would upgraded to 7 for free. I should’ve made her put it in writing but she was just too cute for me to get her into that kind of trouble.
Just sayin'
November 11th, 2009
5:03 pm
Ah yes, that bastion of news, the Jon Stewart show.
Midori
November 11th, 2009
5:04 pm
Hey Jay!! Kelly’s Heroes is on AMC!!
Pogo, AKA JC – I saw the post you addressed to me last night after I got home.
All the world loves a stooge – er, moran.
getalife
November 11th, 2009
5:05 pm
RW,
Sounds like a deal.
Got her number?
Midori
November 11th, 2009
5:05 pm
If I have learned one thing from this blog, it is that the liberals are the most bitter and they are the ones most likely to enter into the low brow game of name calling.
LOL!!!
Are you on the right blog?
jt
November 11th, 2009
5:06 pm
RW-
If I had to do it all over again, I would consider a MAC.
Nothing Is Free
November 11th, 2009
5:06 pm
RW
Everything is on Craig’s list. And as long as the Democrats are determined to make many, many, many more poor people there will always be incredible deals from people who are trying to sell everything they have to pay bills and buy food.
Hey, the democrats la-la-love poor people. That’s why they are so determined to create so many of them. It isn’t your fault that they have to sell everything. Help them out. Buy their stuff.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 11th, 2009
5:08 pm
bookman- I was thinking more along the lines of when you guys ran the photoshopped multiple Iranian missile launch and the scads of “huge” protest pictures that always consists of a close up of two whackjobs standing on some city corner.
Midori
November 11th, 2009
5:09 pm
in writing but she was just too cute for me to get her into that kind of trouble
still at it I see?
Paul
November 11th, 2009
5:09 pm
Bruno
Data’s ten years old. I’d imagine the rate’s gone up some.
Is there an acceptable rate? Is five percent okay? What’s the dollar impact of five percent, given it’s a five percent sample in a system that has a gazillion dollars in costs?
NIF – Did CNN say ‘oops’?
ABM
Yeah, but I cheated. Used a mix. But it was from England, from a British food store.
They were good enough I thought ‘why bother with scratch?’ (which, ahem, I have done).
Ever had a discussion with any of those military types, (once they start complaining about people who don’t pay taxes), about the then-logical consistency of their doing away with all their tax-free allowances? And maybe taxing their Cadillac health plans?
ya gotta have a weird idea of ‘fun’ to strike down that road –
RW-(the original)
Think the end result will be more honest reporting on all networks?
your computer just hiccuped, I didn’t really write that.
Bruno
Lifestyle changes? Anyone really think a significant number of Americans’ll make lifestyle changes? LOLOLOLOL!
@@
November 11th, 2009
5:11 pm
I’m pretty sure I can recall some deceptive photography being used for Al Gore’s global warming AD-venture.
AmVet
November 11th, 2009
5:12 pm
RW, move up to Windows 98, you’ll love it.
Bruno, good stuff. There is unquestionably a staggering amount of abuse, fraud and corruption in the “free market” system. Not to mention fouls ups, wasteful, needless overhead by the endless line of paper shufflers and astronomical executive pay.
No wonder so many Americans lose everything when they can’t pay their medical bills.
In short, you cannot cut deals with the people who need to be replaced, but the corporate owned R&D Party is never gonna bite the hand that feeds them…
Pogo, go hug a veteran. You’ll feel better…
RW-(the original)
November 11th, 2009
5:12 pm
Nothing is free,
Thanks, but it seems the more surfing I do the more likely I am to crash. I saw a really nice laptop with a built in blueray disc player along and an hdmi output so that one is at the top of the shopping list right now.
Nothing Is Free
November 11th, 2009
5:13 pm
jt
I am almost exclusively MAC. I still have one old PC that just keeps on trucking. I am typing on a duel quad 2,8 powermac. I need these big guys for my work.
But please consider the cost. And unlike PCs, when MAC software gets old, the new macs WILL NOT run it. There are almost no free or cheap programs. The vast majority of programs will not run on MAC.
The biggest advantage is not needing anti-virus software. My PC is off line because of the fact that anti-virus software now require a payment plan and without keeping giving them money, the software stops working. I refused to play along. I’ll use the MACs for the internet.
Paul
November 11th, 2009
5:13 pm
Matilda
The flipper didn’t have a mom and was frustrated. Nothing personal.
Have pity.
Hi Midori!
RW-(the original)
I’da still been tempted to go for it.
The computer, I mean…
getalife
You’re incorrigible…
Just sayin'
November 11th, 2009
5:14 pm
@@
November 11th, 2009
5:11 pm
and he invented the internet too…
Angry Black Man
November 11th, 2009
5:15 pm
Pogo
I’d have to say the name calling goes both ways. Whether or not libs do more or conservatives, I can’t answer that. However, both sides engage fairly regularly in the name calling game. That’s why I usually refer to people sharing recipes for Lemon Soup here, meaning that there are bitter comments being posted.
RW-(the original)
November 11th, 2009
5:16 pm
still at it I see?
I thought that was showing improvement on my part.
RW, move up to Windows 98, you’ll love it.
And this dude fancies himself a comic too….
Nothing Is Free
November 11th, 2009
5:16 pm
RW
I’m buying my Mom one of those tiny little laptops. They cost $250 and they work really well. Limited power, but unless you are graphics heavy they will work pretty well.
RW-(the original)
November 11th, 2009
5:19 pm
Paul,
You’d a been tempted to go for it all right and you’d forget a computer was even involved.
Cherokee
November 11th, 2009
5:19 pm
CNN said white people are evil? Must have missed that one.
Nothing Is Free
November 11th, 2009
5:19 pm
Paul
CNN would need a separate program every day for the retractions, if they ever went to the trouble.
getalife
November 11th, 2009
5:19 pm
Paul,
Me?
Nif cruises Craigslist.
Gov Option Done Deal!
November 11th, 2009
5:21 pm
Amvet–
Couldn’t get back for a while but your point is well taken. It always amuses me that the paradigm for so many Republicans is like the instigator in the playground that’s pushing the “warriors” into the ring to do the fight in back of school after school’s out. Given the choice between more Dover coffins with real bodies in them to no dover coffins–GOPsters are always fans of piling up more Dover coffins. Death is good in healthcare, and death is good in general as long as it’s not their family or friend’s death. But death is GOP good. They problably like dog fights. I’m going to bet it’s not just the Nascar dads and moms, but if you poll the dog fight crowd they are Palinistas to the max.
I have to say that Joey’s comment on the thread downstairs about progressives going after people in a gang like manner was amusing for its disingenuous and totally hypocritical tone.
As If Dick Armey’s Freedom works the astro turf organization isn’t built on the meme to go after people in the most primitive gang like manner.
It’s not just Palin who makes me laugh–it’s the bookman wingnuts–they say things they don’t realize are totally comical.
It’s particularly funny they ascribe every trait they exhibit in spades to liberals/progressives.
There are various representatives that have kids in harm’s way.
And of course besides Facebookess’ son on Friday Facebookess’ son in law will be nude for a Playgirl shoot so I guess that counts as harm’s way maybe. But he’ll pick up some nice change and maybe he’ll get lucky as a spin-off from his centerfold. I dunno.
@@
November 11th, 2009
5:22 pm
Well, hooptee doo, all of YOU.
I’m transmitting from a keyboard that’s black, a flat screen….lit up….T.V., like thingamabob that’s black. I want a printer but can’t find one to match.
I don’t know what’s inside the boxadoodle that hums. Should I open it up to see?
Angry Black Man
November 11th, 2009
5:23 pm
Paul
My wife works for Harry & David. I’ve never tried to make scones from scratch, but when she brings some home from work… mmmmmmmmmmmmm
Nothing Is Free
November 11th, 2009
5:24 pm
get a clue
Yes I do cruise craig’s list for great buys. And as long as your boys are in charge, the deals will be incredible.
DoggoneGA
November 11th, 2009
5:25 pm
“let me try it again. just checking to see if my name puts me in moderation”
What do you think, that Jay suddenly lost the ability to read?
RW-(the original)
November 11th, 2009
5:25 pm
Nothing is Free,
I need way more horsepower than I can get with an Atom, but that might work for my wife. One thing I have to have are some programming tools that only work in XP. Windows 7 Pro has an XP mode so that’s probably where I need to go.
jt
November 11th, 2009
5:26 pm
NIF-
“The biggest advantage is not needing anti-virus software. My PC is off line because of the fact that anti-virus software now require a payment plan and without keeping giving them money, the software stops working. I refused to play along. I’ll use the MACs for the internet.”
My sentiments exactly. We are seriously considering an Apple instead of up-grading to win7.
We hated the fact that our security automatically charged our credit card for another upgrade without any authority. WEIRD.
Any apple owner swears by them.
Bruno
November 11th, 2009
5:27 pm
“Bruno Data’s ten years old. I’d imagine the rate’s gone up some. Is there an acceptable rate? Is five percent okay? What’s the dollar impact of five percent, given it’s a five percent sample in a system that has a gazillion dollars in costs?”
Paul–Just my opinion, but I don’t think 5% of inpatient discharges attributed to the uninsured is reason enough to force everyone to purchase government-approved health insurance. Sorry my data is a little old, but at least I provided some kind of data to bolster my argument. Meanwhile, Jay, along with Cynthia Tucker, have provided NO data to support their claim that freeloading uninsured people are what is breaking our system.
It’s this simple, folks: It’s not the freeloading uninsured that are driving insurance rates through the roof, it’s the 55% of wasted dollars.
“Lifestyle changes? Anyone really think a significant number of Americans’ll make lifestyle changes? LOLOLOLOL!”
Maybe I’m old-school, but I think that folks should pay their own way in life. I resent being forced to subsidize the poor health choices of others.
Paul
November 11th, 2009
5:27 pm
ABM
You are truly a lucky man.
stay on her good side -
@@
November 11th, 2009
5:28 pm
Hold on guys, I’ve got the screwdriver. I’ll be ready to forward the info in a minute.
Should I turn it off first?
Just sayin'
November 11th, 2009
5:29 pm
DoggoneGA
November 11th, 2009
5:25 pm
Lighten up, Francis. Just having some fun.
getalife
November 11th, 2009
5:29 pm
Nif,
LOL. You have no idea what I am talking about. I tried posting a link but Jay moderated it like President Clinton’s words.
Just sayin'
November 11th, 2009
5:30 pm
Angry Black Man
November 11th, 2009
5:23 pm
I love that place. I may have even talked to your wife at one time or another.
Jay
November 11th, 2009
5:31 pm
Re: The namecalling question.
As a little test, I just searched our database for the use of two terms, “moron” and “idiot.” Taking only those cases in which the words were used to describe other bloggers, I then counted the number of times the words were used by people of the left and right.
Results
:
The insult “moron” was used 21 times by conservative posters and nine times by liberals.
The insult “idiot” was used 11 times by liberal posters and six times by conservatives.
Draw your own conclusions if you wish.
DoggoneGA
November 11th, 2009
5:32 pm
“Lighten up, Francis. Just having some fun”
it’s not easy for me to lighten up about that kind of “fun” – I’ve had several blogs and forums over the years yanked out of existence because the blog/forum owner got tired of dealing with those kinds of “funsters” I’d hate to see it happen here too.
Midori
November 11th, 2009
5:32 pm
Hi Paul
and a happy, albeit rainy, veterans day to you all
Just sayin'
November 11th, 2009
5:33 pm
I need to speak with Al Gore about all this moderation stuff. He should have never invented “moderation”. Lockbox, maybe, but not moderation.
Paul
November 11th, 2009
5:34 pm
NIF – jt
Some good antivirus-antispy programs out there for under 30 bucks a year. Consumer Reports just tested a bunch and came up with a couple free ones they said are nearly as good as the for-$$$ versions.
I read once that the reasons Macs don’t get the viruses and such is not that it’s anything inherent in their OS but that there are so many more PCs it’s more of a target-rich environment. Once the number of Macs hits critical mass, the article went… look out. They’ll be targets, too.
Bruno
I appreciate the effort. When I look at such studies I often check the age of the database and that leads me to wonder – especially in an area where data’s regularly updated.
I thought I read where they were examining not just inpatient, but doc and ER visits. I’d guess the nonpaying uninsured would be skewed way more towards ER for routine and inpatient in more critical cases. That all affects the conclusions.
I think there’s a lot of inherent waste in the system. But when you have trial lawyers paying Dem politicians (reference Howard Dean) and insurance companies and pharma paying both parties… well, if you’re a politician, who’re you gonna go after?
@@
November 11th, 2009
5:35 pm
Split tail works for me.
Just sayin'
November 11th, 2009
5:36 pm
Conclusion:
Liberals are morons.
Conservatives are idiots.
@@
November 11th, 2009
5:37 pm
jay, could you check to see who initiates the protests. I’d be surprised to find it was conservatives.
Luv, Split Tail @@
RW-(the original)
November 11th, 2009
5:37 pm
As a little test, I just searched our database for the use of two terms, “moron” and “idiot.” The insult “moron” was used 21 times by conservative posters and nine times by liberals.
The insult “idiot” was used 11 times by liberal posters and six times by conservatives.
Exactly what database got searched that those two terms only came up a collective total of 47 times? Was it a particular day between 3 and 4 PM?
Just sayin'
November 11th, 2009
5:38 pm
Jay, how about “moran”? How many times was it used?
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November 11th, 2009
5:38 pm
Put a cattail over that period following protests. It was a question.
Bruno
November 11th, 2009
5:39 pm
“Bruno, good stuff. There is unquestionably a staggering amount of abuse, fraud and corruption in the “free market” system. Not to mention fouls ups, wasteful, needless overhead by the endless line of paper shufflers and astronomical executive pay.”
From my perspective, Am, it’s the LACK of free market competition in health care which has driven up the costs. When doctors stopped billing patients directly for their care, the barn door was thrown wide open for fraud and abuse.
In the end, I see only two viable solutions to bringing costs down in health care:
(1) Capitalistic Solution–Purchase catastrophic health insurance ( $10,000 deductible) and pay cash for routine care. Waste/fraud/overall health care costs would come down overnight.
(2) Socialistic Solution–Institute a single payer system which would at least eliminate the unnecessary paperwork.
RW-(the original)
November 11th, 2009
5:39 pm
Oh and if you haven’t noticed the libs spell moron differently.
Angry Black Man
November 11th, 2009
5:39 pm
Paul
I try my best to do just that. I don’t want to lose my employee discount
Paul
November 11th, 2009
5:39 pm
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Nonononono!!! Don’t turn it off. Be sure to use a screwdriver at least 10 inches long. On the front of the computer you’ll see a bunch of little openings. Put the tip of the screwdriver in one of the openings – it doesn’t matter which one – and push in until you feel resistance. Then push forward to engage the latch. If it won’t push give it a good rap with a hammer. A couple of raps.
Rotate the screwdriver back and forth. If the latch doesn’t disengage, then move the screwdriver in a side to side motion. About a 12-inch arc. That oughta do it!
Any more advice, just ask!
josef nix
November 11th, 2009
5:39 pm
This kind of stuff happens all the time in the broadcast media. I couldn’t tell you the number of time stock footage was used with bright sunny skies and it’d be pouring rain outside…mostly, though, it’s innocent enough and not meant to “create” facts…Hannity will sail right on by with a pro forma “apology.” Those who like him will call it making a mountain out of a mole hill and those who don’t like him will make it into crime against humanity.
Now, Jon Stewart? I’ve got to check out how he reported it. He’s witty and has me rolling in the floor even when I disagree with him or it’s me he’s talking about…
Jay
November 11th, 2009
5:40 pm
RW, I just checked the first 40 or so times each term was used.
jt
November 11th, 2009
5:40 pm
Another thing Bruno-
The 5% is interesting and I have always been sceptical.
Along the same lines, no one has never been able to explain why an ER is SOOOOO much more expensive than a doctors office.
To take a temperature and dispense drugs shouldn’t cost SOOOOOOO much more just becasue a patient is in the ER. WHY????????????
Angry Black Man
November 11th, 2009
5:42 pm
I must admit to using idiot from time to time, mostly describing actions by persons other than those on the blog. I’ve referred to bloggers as jacka$$es though.
RW-(the original)
November 11th, 2009
5:44 pm
RW, I just checked the first 40 or so times each term was used.
So I was right! One hour of a given day.
AmVet
November 11th, 2009
5:44 pm
I’d say it proves Pogo is an idiot AND a moron!
Actually I like just sayin’s take on it….
Gov Option Done Deal!
November 11th, 2009
5:44 pm
We moderates anything–we be Cox wordpress beginners.
Gov Option Done Deal!
November 11th, 2009
5:45 pm
I don’t know anywhere I can learn as fast as the content put up by RW. It’s so valuable.
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November 11th, 2009
5:45 pm
O.K……it doesn’t mat