Could early intervention have prevented Fort Hood tragedy?
The FBI has issued a statement regarding its investigation into the tragedy at Fort Hood, including revelations that Major Malik Nidal Hasan had come to the agency’s attention long before the shooting last week:
At this point, there is no information to indicate Major Malik Nidal Hasan had any co-conspirators or was part of a broader terrorist plot…. Major Hasan came to the attention of the FBI in December 2008 as part of an unrelated investigation being conducted by one of our Joint Terrorism Task Forces (JTTFs). JTTFs are FBI-led, multi-agency teams made up of FBI agents, other federal investigators — including those from the Department of Defense — and state and local law enforcement officers.
Investigators on the JTTF reviewed certain communications between Major Hasan and the subject of that investigation and assessed that the content of those communications was consistent with research being conducted by Major Hasan in his position as a psychiatrist at the Walter Reed Medical Center. Because the content of the communications was explainable by his research and nothing else derogatory was found, the JTTF concluded that Major Hasan was not involved in terrorist activities or terrorist planning.
The unnamed “subject of that investigation” was a militant imam now in Yemen, an American citizen by the name of Anwar al-Awlaki. As the Chicago Tribune reports, unidentified senior law enforcement and military officials in Washington officials told reporters that al-Awlaki “had ties to al-Qaida and was the author of a popular Web site espousing jihadist activity.”
“The disclosure that Hasan had ongoing communications with al-Awlaki, who had ties to some of the Sept. 11 hijackers, immediately raised questions as to whether U.S. intelligence and law-enforcement agencies had information that, if properly shared and investigated, might have helped prevent the attack that left 13 dead and 29 injured.”
(For a backgrounder on al-Awlaki, see here.)
Congressional investigations of such matters can become little more than sloppy publicity platforms, but given the involvement of multiple agencies and the possibility that internal investigations could be whitewashes, I suppose there’s little alternative to an outside look. Hindsight is dreadfully accurate, but we do need to determine how to prevent such tragedies in the future.
The wisest, most balanced piece I’ve seen on how the military should have responded to concerns about Major Hasan Nidal came in the form of an editorial in the Los Angeles Times:
“It’s essential to avoid profiling people on the basis of their religion, but that doesn’t require us to deny the existence in this country, as elsewhere, of a dangerous and anti-American ideology that identifies itself with Islam and seeks to recruit believing Muslims. If the U.S. military receives evidence that some of its members have succumbed to the siren song of extremism, it must investigate. Not to do so would be foolhardy. But it must be done in a way that doesn’t treat adherence to Islam itself as a security risk. It would be grossly unfair, for example, to subject all Muslim recruits to special screening, as some commentators on the right have proposed.
Nor should Islamic extremism be the only noxious ideology monitored by the military. The Department of Homeland Security came under misguided criticism from veterans this year when it released a report warning that some disaffected veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were especially susceptible to the lures of right-wing extremism. That common-sense conclusion also applies to current and prospective members of the armed forces…..
Policing a service member’s participation in an extremist group becomes more delicate when the organization is a religious one. But if we’re talking about involvement in a mosque where violence is preached — or in a white supremacist group that calls itself a church — that’s not a private matter. The military can recognize and act on that fact without presuming that every Muslim is an extremist.”
Of course, finding such a fine balance is so much easier in theory than in practice with actual human beings.
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I Report (-: You Whine )-: AmWet Is A Coward mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 10th, 2009
8:35 am
Yes.
Political correctness kills.
Finn McCool
November 10th, 2009
8:37 am
Well, contacting the enemy is called treason, isn’t it?
It doesn’t matter what religion he subscribes to. He was consorting or attempting to consort with the enemy.
Finn McCool
November 10th, 2009
8:40 am
Looks like Bill Clinton is going to try to help deliver the Senate on the Health Care plan.
He should press the historical significance of this and play to their egos.
Finn McCool
November 10th, 2009
8:53 am
The shooter isn’t a terrorist, he’s a coward. He couldn’t deal with a single tour of duty when all the other soldiers are on their third, fourth, fifth, etc?
Glenn Greenwald lays into David Brooks for hypocrisy…very good read:
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2009/11/10/brooks
jt
November 10th, 2009
8:55 am
The FBI will SURE throw a bunch of agents on a “hate crime” though.
Eventhough EVERY violent crime involves hate, the FBI never misses a chance to involve themselves in state affairs where a protected gender or race is involved.
Poor white ignorant kids are SOOOOOO much more easier to intiminate and convict than full-blown jihadists.
I’m so glad government is keeping us safe.
stands for decibels
November 10th, 2009
8:55 am
Holy Joe Lieberputz will find the answer for us.
stands for decibels
November 10th, 2009
8:57 am
It’s ok, jt. When you die and go to heaven everyone will look, sound and smell just like Ayn Rand.
danjonglee
November 10th, 2009
8:57 am
They found out he was missing a few cards and was promoted to Maj. Nice to be a protected minority…..
Taxpayer
November 10th, 2009
8:58 am
Wow. AmVet must have done a number on the whiner.
Turd Ferguson
November 10th, 2009
8:59 am
“Congressional investigations of such matters can become little more than sloppy publicity platforms”
That is for SURE!!! Latest examples…Cash 4 clunkers, OboboCare, the remaining Obobo platform.
Racial profiling is the proper way to dredge out these dregs. These islams are determined to take over…see Europe. There philosophy seems to be that of “William the LongShanks”…if we cant get them out we’ll breed them out, in somewhat different fashion. These islams concentrate on a geographic area, move in, and breed like rats.
Thereby soaking the welfare systems and eventually resting control of local govts.
Its past time for racial profiling as law.
Brad Steel
November 10th, 2009
8:59 am
With the relatively few young individuals in the military who are moved by romantic notions, have big guns, and are under life-or-death stress; this should be an easy problem to solve.
jt
November 10th, 2009
8:59 am
If only Hasan would have mentioned the constitution or Ron Paul,
lived could have been saved.
Taxpayer
November 10th, 2009
9:02 am
It’s raining.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 10th, 2009
9:04 am
Well, I was setting in the Waffle House this a.m. looking down at my grits and red-eye gravy with the big hunk of butter in the middle and all down because it’s getting time for my monthly bath when it suddenly come to me. We need to take our country back from the Heathens and Atheists and Ragheads and Hippies and put God back in the military and our schools again! We need to stop being all Politically Correct. If his name is Habib or al Mekvi or Goldstein and not Jones or Smith or Wragg or Stumpbottom, he don’t belong in the military or in charge of anything in this country.
You know good and well this raghead that shot all those soldiers was a Terrist. You could tell by his name. But they let him in the army anyway and even made him a Major!
Anyhow, I’m just disgusted with how stupid this country has become and I know there’s lots of people on this blog that’s as disgusted as I am. We need to bring back the 1920s and 1930s and get back to our roots again and stop catering to all these Minorities!
Have a good day everybody.
Marsh
November 10th, 2009
9:06 am
Hasan Warned in ‘07 of Risk In Ranks
He saw conscientious-objector status as a way for Muslim troops to avoid stressful wars.
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/world_us/20091110_Hasan_warned_in__07_of_risk_in_ranks.html
Common Sense / Block #23
November 10th, 2009
9:07 am
Heads should roll on this one! Political correctness run amok. Everyone running scared of CAIR and the ACLU instead of doing their jobs. I say it time to get “Mr. Polygraph” out for anyone suspect.
As I have said before, the AJC rarely even mentions the race of a bank robber, etc. anymore for fear of offending someone. How in the heck are citizens supposed to narrow down who to look for? It’s actually quite pathetic.
“Be on the lookout for a …………. bank robber!”
Finn McCool
November 10th, 2009
9:08 am
The military should be wary of the christian fundamentalists in the military ranks as well.
Peadawg
November 10th, 2009
9:09 am
I agree w/ you Common Sense. Political Correctness needs to go away. People are too worried about what others think about them these days.
Taxpayer
November 10th, 2009
9:12 am
Be on the lookout for………a bank robber! The robber was last seen robbing a bank and was wearing a mask of Ronald Reagan. It was a good fitting mask and it looked so lifelike.
Turd Ferguson
November 10th, 2009
9:12 am
Then again if we all put our collective heads in the sand then perhaps when we remove said heads the problem, these islambs, will have just evaporated.
Ya…seems to be working so far.
Turd Ferguson
November 10th, 2009
9:14 am
Agreed Common Sense…same thing with these candyass atlanta news stations. All of them worried about offending that USELESS lowery or that wall eyes basturd jesse jackson.
Common Sense / Block #23
November 10th, 2009
9:16 am
P.S.
I’m convinced that if green Martians landed on earth an started eating people alive that liberals and the ACLU would not want them identified as “green” or even “Martians”.
But Seriously, you let a group of Islamists take out most of an elementary school in this country (as they have in others) and our liberal friends will start to come around. They have started already as you can see in the tone of the article above as well as Jay’s comments.
When philosophy comes face to face with deadly reality people suddenly have a change in attitude.
Angry Black Man
November 10th, 2009
9:17 am
Ok, I get it. If the JTTF, CIA, ATF, NSA, FBI or any other intelligence agency comes across your name during an investigation, you are ok with them handling and dealing with you as a suspected terrorist until proven otherwise.
I’m cool with that.
Bob
I left a response for you at the end of the last thread. You should take your time and read for comprehension before you respond to a post.
Bosch
November 10th, 2009
9:18 am
Yeah, damn that ACLU:
The ACLU is our nation’s guardian of liberty, working daily in courts, legislatures and communities to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties that the Constitution and laws of the United States guarantee everyone in this country.
These rights include:
Your First Amendment rights – freedom of speech, association and assembly; freedom of the press, and freedom of religion.
Your right to equal protection under the law – protection against unlawful discrimination.
Your right to due process – fair treatment by the government whenever the loss of your liberty or property is at stake.
Your right to privacy – freedom from unwarranted government intrusion into your personal and private affairs.
The ACLU also works to extend rights to segments of our population that have traditionally been denied their rights, including people of color; women; lesbians, gay men, bisexuals and transgender people; prisoners; and people with disabilities.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
And Block – Seriously? You wanna go with this?
“How in the heck are citizens supposed to narrow down who to look for?”
Citizens don’t need to be looking for bank robbers – that’s the police’s job. Or are you one of those who like to go out with your gun to hunt them down all vigilante style?
Common Sense / Block #23
November 10th, 2009
9:19 am
To Finn McCool:
The military should be aware of any nutcase in their ranks …………. but right now it’s the Islamics who are causing 99% of the world’s problems when it comes to terrorism.
Doggone/GA
November 10th, 2009
9:20 am
“When philosophy comes face to face with deadly reality people suddenly have a change in attitude”
Ummmm…Islamic radicals took out the Twin Towers and over 3000 lives…it didn’t cause ME to start blaming all Muslims for that atrocity. Did it cause YOU to?
electrician
November 10th, 2009
9:20 am
Finn McCool…why? and what is your definition of christian fundamentalist?…you are using a pretty broad brush there.
Kamchak
November 10th, 2009
9:21 am
Political correctness run amok.
Oh nooooooo….not the “political correctness” card. Can’t…breathe….Such…a…powerful…weapon….
Before you bleat further on “political correctness” please read this.
Taxpayer
November 10th, 2009
9:23 am
Then again if we all put our collective heads in the sand then perhaps when we remove said heads the problem, these islambs, will have just evaporated.
Displacing that much sand would change the diameter of the earth by inches and that could alter the angular velocity of the earth and even result in more wobble if the change is not uniform. The length of a day would change and the resulting alteration in the duration of exposure time to sunlight of portions of the earth during each one-day cycle would result in unknown changes in human behavior that we can only image without a complete study.
Bosch
November 10th, 2009
9:25 am
Who are “the Islamics” ?????
Taxpayer
November 10th, 2009
9:27 am
But Seriously, you let a group of Islamists take out most of an elementary school in this country (as they have in others) and our liberal friends will start to come around. They have started already as you can see in the tone of the article above as well as Jay’s comments.
I don’t recall those guys out in Oklahoma being followers of Islam. They sure knew a lot about fertilizer though. We better start screening for farmers too.
jconservative
November 10th, 2009
9:29 am
“…a dangerous and anti-American ideology…”
This is a really big phrase isn’t it, “a dangerous and anti-American ideology”. Anti-American ideology is like beauty, it is in the eye of the beholder.
For example, I would suggest that those members of the Georgia legislature who call for Georgia to secede from the United States are, in fact, anti-American ideologues. They do not accept the rule of law and want to destroy the United States. Others would say that I am full of it (it has been said before & I never deny it).
Long discussion on Major Hasan on “Morning Joe’ this AM. Consensus, as I heard it, was that the Army officers who were aware of Hasan’s thinking did nothing because it was easier to do nothing than take a stand & risk their own careers.
Political correctness run amok.
Turd Ferguson
November 10th, 2009
9:30 am
Angry Black Man
November 10th, 2009
9:17 am
Try an experiement…start contacting foreign consulate and/or embassies and see just how long before the SS comes a knocking.
US citizen or not I guarantee you will be visited for a 3 to 4 hour sitdown.
Bosch
November 10th, 2009
9:33 am
jconservative,
“I would suggest that those members of the Georgia legislature who call for Georgia to secede from the United States are, in fact, anti-American ideologues. They do not accept the rule of law and want to destroy the United States.”
[Polite golf clap]
Yo'momma Obama
November 10th, 2009
9:33 am
But just remember, our Grand Ayatollah Imam Mufti Hussein Obama of Kenya has declared a fatwa that we should not jump to conclusions
Common Sense / Block #23
November 10th, 2009
9:37 am
To Bosch:
Two points:
1) There was a time when the ACLU did some good but they have gone so overboard now as to be a threat to this Republic. By the way, the organizations I support (ACLJ and Alliance Defense Fund) have been kicking the ACLU’s butt everyday in court for sometime now. Check it out if you have the heart.
http://www.alliancedefensefund.org/main/default.aspx
http://www.aclj.org/
2) I really feel sorry for you if you don’t realize that the public needs to know the full description of a suspect (i.e., someone who has just robbed a bank) in order to be on the alert and point them out to the police via a 911 call. Are you really that lame?
Doggone/GA
November 10th, 2009
9:41 am
There’s an article on the AJC front page right now about a Walmart robbery: “Police have described the man as white, between 50 and 60 years old”
Finn McCool
November 10th, 2009
9:41 am
“Islamics” aren’t the problem. Those are just people who are religious.
The problem is fundamentalists/extremeists/whackjobs/”those likely to go postal”, etc.
Electrician didn’t like my broad-stroke of “fundamentalist christian” above, but that isn’t a broad stroke at all. If I had said something to the extent that ALL christians are fundamentalist, that would be “broad strokes”.
When someone says “fundamentalist” that should be understood to mean an extremeist or someone unstable to the point of being dangerous to others around.
Yo'momma Obama
November 10th, 2009
9:41 am
Latest classified photos of Obama’s inauguration clearly shows he took his oath of office with his hand on a Quran covered with a cheap bible bookcover
Doggone/GA
November 10th, 2009
9:44 am
“When someone says “fundamentalist” that should be understood to mean an extremeist or someone unstable to the point of being dangerous to others around”
I think I understand your point…but I wouldn’t regard all fundamentalists as extremists. I’ve got fundamentalist relatives and they are all peaceful, law abiding citizens. It is, specifially, the radical extremists – of whatever persuasion – that are dangerous and a threat.
Not all fundamentalists are extremists, not all extremists are fundamentalists. But all extremists are seduced by the power they have to harm others.
Gale
November 10th, 2009
9:45 am
Taxpayer, you must have put an extra dollop of humor in your coffee this morning. I could use some of that.
Mrs. Godzilla
November 10th, 2009
9:46 am
Early intervention…..yep, probably could have prevented Fort Hood tragedy.
I’d guess all those alphabet soup organizations will be watching
lots of folks a bit closer. I imagine there’s large whole team
for just the freepers.
getalife
November 10th, 2009
9:46 am
OK. They found it, assessed it and let it go.
Just another wingnut kook going off and killing.
Just a different religion like I thought.
All the death threats for the President and calls for revolution should be addressed too.
Lock em up just in case.
Yo'momma Obama
November 10th, 2009
9:47 am
In fact, reports are surfacing that Michelle Obama is really David Bowie’s wife, hired to act as wife to the Imam Obama. His real wife is sequestered in the Lincoln Bedroom wearing a full-length burka, face unseen
Marsh
November 10th, 2009
9:49 am
Fact: President Obama has kept us safe longer than Shrub did.
Finn McCool
November 10th, 2009
9:49 am
2) I really feel sorry for you if you don’t realize that the public needs to know the full description of a suspect (i.e., someone who has just robbed a bank) in order to be on the alert and point them out to the police via a 911 call. Are you really that lame?
Is that robbery really any of your business? Are you the neighborhood spinster, too? Let the police do their job — that’s what we pay them for. Why can’t we keep our noses out of other people’s dealings?
getalife
November 10th, 2009
9:50 am
Preemptive detention for the cons is a good idea.
Lets start with Glenn Becker and his beckers.
Doggone/GA
November 10th, 2009
9:51 am
“Why can’t we keep our noses out of other people’s dealings?”
Sorry, can’t agree with this. That’s the kind of thinking that led 20 people, give or take, to witness a teenage girl being repeatedly raped and do NOTHING about it. In my book that makes those “spectators” just as, if not MORE, guilty than the attackers.
Bosch
November 10th, 2009
9:51 am
Block,
Again, yeah, damn that ACLU – protecting the rights of freedom of speech, due process, privacy – yeah, all those pesky things the Constitution guarantees us all.
Why do you hate our country? ???
Point two – you might want to brush up on your telepathy skills there pal.
Yo'momma Obama
November 10th, 2009
9:52 am
Secret service is mired in angst to comply with Grand Mufti Obama’s demand that they set up a Bedouin tent in the Rose Garden for him to sleep at night….security concerns ya know….
Common Sense / Block #23
November 10th, 2009
9:52 am
To Doggone/Ga:
Yep ……….. a “white” suspect. That’s usually no problem.
Let me tell you a true story. Based on my past occupation, I used to often send the AJC a photo/caption of a suspect in this area we badly needed to arrest. The AJC had a section then for “wanted persons”. One week I sent one over who just happend to be “black” and was told it would not be accepted as they needed a “white” suspect to balance out the list.
Oh, by the way ……….. two of my “vents” made the AJC website this morning !!
“Headline: “237 Millionaires in Congress”. There’s our problem. They are not like us and they can’t represent us.”
“An Army base staffed by thousands of highly trained combat soldiers and not even NCO’s or officers had the ability to defend themselves from a lone terrorist before local police arrived. Times have changed. Sounds like a wake-up call to me.”
Jimmy Carter
November 10th, 2009
9:53 am
Allowing soldiers to carry weapons on the base could have prevented the magnitude of this tragedy.
Normal
November 10th, 2009
9:54 am
It could be that the above mentioned initials, were trying to use him for more information, as in, see who he sees and follow them, etc. Could have been plain old investagative work, and they just waited too long to bring him in. As I said when the Fort Hood shooting first came up, I’m waiting to see what they tell us, then I’ll decide.
Common Sense / Block #23
November 10th, 2009
9:55 am
Bosch:
1) Those other two agencies are still kicking the ACLU’s butt. I love it!
2) You’ll feel that way about describing suspects properly until someone harms you or your family. Then your tune will change as you will want everyone in the state looking for that guy.
Jimmy Carter
November 10th, 2009
9:56 am
Taxpayer
November 10th, 2009
9:12 am
Nah. The bigest money robber around is Barry. And millions of mindless lemmings are willing to fork it over.
Common Sense / Block #23
November 10th, 2009
9:57 am
To Jimmy Carter:
Amen! Arm at least the senior NCO’s and Officers who are qualified to carry.
To Finn McCool:
I hope if there is someone breaking into houses or cars in your neighborhood that the police, newspapers, etc. refuse to give you a description. That’s their job. Mind your own business.
Yo'momma Obama
November 10th, 2009
9:59 am
Ayatollah Obama has instructed his other imams in the Quranic Council to start the process of annexing Kenya to the US so his citizenship status is no longer in question
Brand
November 10th, 2009
9:59 am
Of course, finding such a fine balance is so much easier in theory than in practice with actual human beings.
Well yaawh! but why is that?
Because liberal loons promote “self-help” LOL classes in sensitivity training. Show me where anyone who’s overly sensitive moved beyond it. It’s like a crutch for the disabled.
Either show me your capable of equality or be gone. I don’t have time to nurse your sensibilities. It’s not in your best interest that I do.
Bosch
November 10th, 2009
9:59 am
Block,
Are you posting right now from under your bed? Boo!!!
Nail Aluminum
November 10th, 2009
10:00 am
Bosch
November 10th, 2009
9:18 am
The ACLU?……BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Angry Black Man
November 10th, 2009
10:01 am
TF
You gotta remember what I do for a living. It could be well within the scope of my job to contact them. I understand your point though.
Jimmy Carter
November 10th, 2009
10:01 am
Yo’momma Obama
November 10th, 2009
9:59 am
Ha! Good one.
Doggone/GA
November 10th, 2009
10:03 am
“Yep ……….. a “white” suspect. That’s usually no problem. ”
I did a search for “robber” on the ajc.com site:
“The suspect is described as a black male, between 5-feet-8 and 6 feet tall and wearing a baseball cap”
“The man, described as a black male in his early 30’s, received an undisclosed amount of cash”
“The robber stole a drink along with his food order and an undisclosed amount of cash. He is described as a black male, 18-25 years of age who was last seen wearing a black coat and dark-colored pants.”
There’s lots more too.
electrician
November 10th, 2009
10:05 am
doggone@9:44..you understand what a fundamentalist truly is, people throw that term around a lot on this blog without realizing what it means. not dissing you Finn, maybe we should start calling them neofunds.
Marsh
November 10th, 2009
10:05 am
I de-programmed Faux off my TV lineup years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7GkJqRv3BI
Common Sense / Block #23
November 10th, 2009
10:06 am
Bosch:
I see I finally got to you since you have even quit trying to debate and have resorted to your normal silliness. No problem. I’m out for awhile anyway. Check in with you later on another subject.
Finn McCool
November 10th, 2009
10:07 am
Good point, doggone
Common Sense / Block #23
November 10th, 2009
10:09 am
To Doggone/GA:
Good! Looks like they changed their policy. Hope they keep it up. And ……………. if the guy shouts “Allah Akbar” please include that he is a Muslim. If he shouts “Jesus Saves” please include that he is a Christian. Or ………. “Budda Rules”……….. you get the point.
Bosch
November 10th, 2009
10:09 am
Block,
Debate away – you’re not making a point. You’re expressing your opinions – that’s it – and the typical wingnutty fear tactics like “just wait ’til your family gets murdered, killed, whatever” – the kind of things I’ve heard hundreds of times here on this blog.
And the Alliance for Christian values over every thing is whipping the ACLU’s butt – yeah, that’s real debate there dude.
getalife
November 10th, 2009
10:09 am
Geez, if they are going to spy on Americans, they should at least question them when they find something.
No outrage for freedom from the cons?
Go figure.
Doggone/GA
November 10th, 2009
10:11 am
“you get the point”
No, actually I don’t. You cannot determine a person’s religious beliefs just from looking at them.
getalife
November 10th, 2009
10:12 am
#23 birther.
And the murderer who said he murdered to protect unborn children?
Terrorist?
Bosch
November 10th, 2009
10:13 am
electrician,
A fundamentalist is a person of a type of religion who takes their teachings either literally (like the Bible in Christianity) or takes their religious teaching and principles very strictly.
Mrs. Godzilla
November 10th, 2009
10:13 am
Thank heavens for the ACLU…..
Backing Limbaugh, ACLU goes to court
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/01/13/backing_limbaugh_aclu_goes_to_court/
and of course
ACLU Defends Senator Larry Craig–The Republican Perv
http://www.nowpublic.com/politics/aclu-defends-senator-larry-craig-republican-perv
The ACLU,protecting the LEAST amongst us since 1920.
Turd Ferguson
November 10th, 2009
10:14 am
Marsh
November 10th, 2009
9:49 am
Thanks…we heard you yesterday.
AmVet
November 10th, 2009
10:14 am
Not only are the conned qualified to be Armchair CiCs, they also are able to impeccably “analyze” the security requirements at any and all military installations.
Though other than as a feather merchant, none have even been on one.
Hey Corporate Republican CiCs, here’s an idea you’ll love.
Just get rid of all of the GIs, and all of the marines and all of the sailors and all of the airmen.
They’re just a bunch of government employees who can’t do anything right.
Just “employ” private contractors to keep your sorryass bungholes safe.
They are after all, superior in every regard to government employees…
Taxpayer
November 10th, 2009
10:19 am
Billy Beer drinker,
The only ones currently taking more of my money (in the form of taxes and fees) are those of the Republican faith at the state (Georgia) and county levels. My fed level taxes are still going down. Further, unless Obama intervenes, Bush and the Republicans will be responsible for increasing my fed level taxes just as soon as their tax cuts expire per their legislation.
I think Common Sense / Block #23 is the blogger formerly known as the Corporal. The Corporal was the Prince of the Bookman blog.
Bosch
November 10th, 2009
10:20 am
Taxpayer,
If Block was the Corporal – he’d be bragging about his Secret Service duty – he wouldn’t be able to resist.
TnGelding
November 10th, 2009
10:22 am
Hopefully he was cleared under the Bush administration, or else the vast-right-wing-conspirators will never let Obama live it down.
It looks like the Army dropped the ball, as well. It’s incomprehensible that they would make someone with his known views stay in the service when he asked to be relieved of duty.
“Fort Hood shooting suspect, Major Nidal Malik Hasan, wanted out of the Army after being constantly harassed by others in the military and was called a “camel jockey,” his family said.”
“Apparently became very disgruntled in the mission in Iraq and Afghanistan and voiced that to a lot of his colleagues,” said Rep. Michael McCaul (R-TX).
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/nidal-malik-hasan-wanted-army-family/story?id=9008184
Joey
November 10th, 2009
10:23 am
As I recall your Shrub kept us safe for 7+ years.
getalife
November 10th, 2009
10:24 am
The private’s hero pled guilty to murdering to protect the unborn yesterday so the private is fired up today.
Turd Ferguson
November 10th, 2009
10:24 am
“Fort Hood shooting suspect, Major Nidal Malik Hasan, wanted out of the Army after being constantly harassed by others in the military and was called a “camel jockey,” his family said.”
Dont believe a word of it. Yet even if true then the shootings is justified?
Joey
November 10th, 2009
10:25 am
“Hopefully he was cleared under the Bush Administration.”
This is a lot like wishing his name had been Smith.
Mrs. Godzilla
November 10th, 2009
10:25 am
Joey
7+ years…..yessir ya’betcha…after that first screw up you mean….
getalife
November 10th, 2009
10:27 am
Then a total economic collapse.
Come on Joey.
Turd Ferguson
November 10th, 2009
10:27 am
Ruh Roh boys and girls. You ALL will be pleased to know the stock portfolio of your friendly neighborhood Turd Ferguson is yet again reaching NEW 52 WEEK HIGHS!!!
Set ya up a brokerage account, then sit down to a warm helping of biscuts and GRAVY!!! YEA!
booger
November 10th, 2009
10:27 am
Since Ft. Hood seems to be the topic of the day for opinion writers, I vote Wooten’s piece the winner.
Doggone/GA
November 10th, 2009
10:29 am
“Hopefully he was cleared under the Bush Administration”
Do the math: “Nearly a year before Maj. Nidal Hasan allegedly went on a shooting rampage at Fort Hood, terrorism investigators conducted an “assessment” of him before deciding he did not pose a threat.” from the AJC
jt
November 10th, 2009
10:29 am
Thank God our governement is keeping us safe. Check this official FBI flyer out. If only Hasan would have mentioned “defending the constitution”, lives might have been saved.
DEFENDERS OF THE CONSTITUTION NOW CONSIDERED TO BE TERRORISTS
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/constitutional_terrorist.htm
Jimmy Carter
November 10th, 2009
10:31 am
Mrs. Godzilla
November 10th, 2009
10:13 am
You said “Senator Larry Craig–The Republican Perv”
Using your logic, what does that make Barney Frank?
Hef
November 10th, 2009
10:32 am
In using the generalization “they are after all,superior in every regard to government employees” I must say for one of few times I agree with AmVet, the private sector is superior in almost all facets than anything run by government.
Bosch
November 10th, 2009
10:32 am
JC,
Frank is a Congressman from Massachusetts.
getalife
November 10th, 2009
10:34 am
Hef,
Way to support the troops.
Loser.
Joey
November 10th, 2009
10:34 am
Mrs. Godzilla and getalife:
So you two are in agreement with Marsh’s 9:49 post, which is:
Obama is a better President than Bush because his first attack did not come until November while Bush’s America was attacked in September.
Normal
November 10th, 2009
10:35 am
TnGelding
November 10th, 2009
10:22 am
Good morning Tn, Your statement, “It looks like the Army dropped the ball, as well. It’s incomprehensible that they would make someone with his known views stay in the service when he asked to be relieved of duty.”
The military mindset is that “You joined, you do your duty. You don’t have to like it, you do have to do it”. They would add, “If we let you out for religious reasons, we’d have to let everybody out.”
Jimmy Carter
November 10th, 2009
10:35 am
TnGelding
November 10th, 2009
10:22 am
Still clinging to the “vast right wing conspiracy” urban legend. That is soooo 1990s. Come on, you can do better, can’t you?
getalife
November 10th, 2009
10:37 am
Joey,
w, worst ever.
Obama, too early to tell.
Jimmy Carter
November 10th, 2009
10:37 am
Bosch
November 10th, 2009
10:32 am
What you posted was a fact. I’m just trying to understand her logic. Oops, my bad. I don’t think many can understand her logic. Oh well…
Normal
November 10th, 2009
10:38 am
…but on to more important things…Isn’t “V” on tonight?
Yo'momma Obama
November 10th, 2009
10:39 am
Little known fact, hidden deep in the monstrous healthcare bill is a provision inserted by Imam Hussein Obama that each day $2.00 of taxpayer monies be sent to his brother in Kenya, since Barry is too cheap to send his own money