In NY’s 23rd, conservatives bag a GOP heretic in Scozzafava

The circular firing squad continues to claim victims.

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So a conservative can be a Republican but a Republican can’t be a conservative?

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josef

Every time I post this, the subject changes. It’s not Jay. It’s just bad timing. But take a read.

One of the things that bother me the most is the refusal of the media to examine the parallels that you just mentioned. We can’t even talk about it here, at least by mentioning the actual National Socialist Worker’s Party’ real name.

I sent this to you once before, but I never knew if you actually got it:
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goebmain.htm

It is the english translation of Goebbel’s speeches. Some of the most fascinating and disturbing reading that you will ever do.

From a speech called More Morality, Less Moralism. And is dated 1934:

“Peculiar people whose life is either behind them, or have no right to have one ahead of them, preach moralism in the name of our revolution. This moralism often has nothing in common with true morality. They proclaim ethical laws that might be appropriate for a nunnery, but are entirely out of place in a modern cultural state.”

This is his praising the Fuhrer as a speaker:

“There are two fundamentally different kinds of speakers: those who use reasoning, and those who speak from the heart. They reach two different sorts of people, those who understand through reason, and those who understand through the heart. Speakers who aim for the reason are generally found in parliaments, those who speak from the heart speak to the people.”

A single line from a speech called “The Morals of the Rich”:

“Likewise, a rich man with a car will never travel without a ticket on the subway. Aside from the fact that he could easily buy a ticket, he has a fancy car waiting in front of his fancy house.”

One line from a speech called “The Year 2000″
“One can also predict with a high degree of certainty that Europe will be a united continent in the year 2000.”

that one is worth reading right now.

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bookman, have you read your own column?

Consequently, I hereby release those individuals who have endorsed and supported my campaign to transfer their support as they see fit to do so. I am and have always been a proud Republican. It is my hope that with my actions today, my party will emerge stronger………

Her own supporters were pressuring her, obviously so that they could unite behind the front runner.

This blog column is nothing but a hissy fit.

May there be many, many more of them.

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stands for decibels

So essentially, you can’t be a republican and be pro-choice and/or pro-marriage equality?

So essentially, you can’t be a democrat and say the words “abortion” or “gay marriage” anymore either.

At least Republicans can be honest without hurting their chances.

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Oh good grief….yours not mine.

Taxpayer
October 31st, 2009
11:55 am

@@, that is just so cute.

Why am I not surprised. Are you back to the tired but not true?

Go ahead. Infer bigot or racist. Holds no impact for me.

I’ll just “brush your dirt from my shoulder”. If Obama can do it, SO CAN I!!!!!!

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If the Democrat loses the race, we lose nothing — it was previously held by a Republican. If he wins the seat, we gain another obnoxious Blue Dog, undermining our caucus from within while adding just a single vote to our already dominant House majorities.

@@- Gee, I wonder why bookman doesn’t write a column about that^^?

hmmmmm

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I was a bit surprised when I saw jay’s “Iran now rejecting nuclear deal” which followed his “Ahmadinejad defense possible nuke deal” in which jay said:

The fact that Ahmadinejad feels it necessary to defend the pending deal in public suggests that he is at least serious about pursuing it. Why would he take the heat over a deal that he had no intention of concluding? As the Post reports, “If successful, the deal would likely be interpreted internationally as a goodwill sign by all involved parties and might lead to compromises over Iran’s nuclear program.”

But the situation is extremely complicated.

Not really. STRATFOR was all over Iran’s “installment plan” from the get-go.

That’s why STRATFOR demands the big bucks for their subscriptions.

And no, I’m not gonna say anything about the AJC’s dwindlings…

I will say this though…it doesn’t pay to be a dreamer.

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@@- Gee, I wonder why bookman doesn’t write a column about that^^?

Hmmmm, indeed.

This is the second time I’ve pointed it out to him.

Mentioned it over at Kyle’s too. Not a single leftist had any response. Just ignored it as though it didn’t exist.

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NIF:

Taxpayer has some kinda problem with my efforts to stimulate the economy.

I’m damned if I do and damned if I don’t.

There’s no way to make these leftists happy. They’re doomed to their own feelings of persecution.

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This ‘ne too…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwc5YSAc-7g

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October 31st, 2009
1:54 pm
Oh good grief….yours not mine.

Oh, pitiful deflection. “yours not mine”, are your words, not mine.

If you get it, quote it, if you got it, don’t. If that’s the silly game you play, then you could claim that you’ve never uttered an original word in your life. Then again, there IS stratfor. What else are you not sharing.

Why am I not surprised. Are you back to the tired but not true?

I’ll just “brush your dirt from my shoulder”. If Obama can do it, SO CAN I!!!!!!

And, that is even cuter than your other stuff. Perhaps, your latest cries of ‘witch’ are meant to hide, via your call to racism/bigot diversion, an even darker side than you’ve revealed to date. hehehe. I mean, Ewwwww.

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Have the Country Stations started playing “The Dixie Chicks” again?

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I like the Dixie Chicks.

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The extremist whackjobs just give Pelosi another vote.

In typically stupid fashion Repubos are trying to call the H1N1 vaccine rollout Obama’s Katrina. All the while every Repuboputzo website, and their own Dr. Jim Wooten are urging people not to get vaccinated.

If any unvaccinated Repuboputzos die, the name for it is SUICIDE and murder of their children.

At this moment the largest county in Georgia, Fulton, with 1.2 million people has used 13% of their 5300 Medimmune nasal mist doses. That calculates out to 8 clinics over 23 days dispensing 3.8 vaccines per day. Pathetically stupid people are refusing the vaccine.

If there is mutation you will see hospitals overwhelmed, and respirator rationing something none of you have seen in your lives.

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The Christian Science Monitor on NY23:

It’s also entirely possible the Democrat, lawyer Bill Owens, could eke out a victory amid the Republican infighting. He would be the first Democrat to win that district in 140 years.

All Our Base Are Done Belong To Us! Go Extremist base. You lose elections like nobody else. But also

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THIS BROAD WAS A RHINO IN LOOKS AND POSITIONS.

NY SHOULD RECRUIT SARAH PALIN TO GET THE STATE OUT OF THE GUTTER!!!

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Jay has a new co worker…….

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Two-ply bathroom tissue, according to Allen Hershkowitz of the Natural Resources Defense Council, “is the Hummer of the paper industry.”-MarkSteyn

Little nasty ass, hahaha.

ew

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Taxpayer:

Perhaps, your latest cries of ‘witch’ are meant to hide, via your call to racism/bigot diversion, an even darker side than you’ve revealed to date. hehehe.

I’m a shady character, yessiree.

I have an olive complexion December thru May. Come May, I”m moving into the brown range. By August, I’m darker than Obama.

So when it comes to me, @@, are you racist/bigoted only between the months of December thru May or is it 12 months out of the year?

Funny…I don’t recall using the word ‘witch’ but if the foo shiites as AmVet would say.

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ah sure do see a lot of the pronoun “I” in ole aa’s posts.

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ChattyWick:

And I see a lot of swine in your posts.

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Newsom Ends Bid for California Governor.

Oddly enough I think Jerry Brown has come a long way since the far-left days of his youth.

We shall see.

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Doggone–

Well, rhino horn is an aphrodisiac.

And Jerry Brown? When the Dem party left him, they lost their moorings…

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@@

“You’re Unmentionable sounds like a man after my own heart.”

I’ve gotten into arguments with straight women before over…

I think you’d like him, though, he knows how to play dumb and handsome!

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Jackie–

“…even in the South…”

Was yore Mama scared by a y’all while she was carryin’ you?

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Dangit! Dennis Hopper has been diagnosed with prostate cancer. He’s another one that’s come full circle — from liberal to conservative.

What began as a philosophy of political change turned into a change of political philosophy.

“The controversy about me,” Hopper says, “I don’t think it’s going to stop me. However, a lot of people treat me differently, and they do bring it up. I’ll be at a dinner party, and somebody will say, ‘Well, you couldn’t be thinking that …’ And then you realize that everybody at the table is looking at you, and they’re like, ‘You’re kidding! You’re not really for Bush.’ And it goes around the table.

He strikes me as the kind of guy who gets a kick outta ruffling their feathers.

Wishing him well.

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Who’s having abortions?
Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions. 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as “Born-again/Evangelical”.

Well! There’s you answer to reducing abortions.

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Alright, I gotta share this. I was taking care of a little 20 month old yesterday. Around 5:00 we were worn out from playing. She wanted to watch a [boovie]. I turned on GPTV. I’m not into conspiracies but I know subversion when I see it.

Cartoons are geared towards a leftist agenda. “Bob the Builder” is environmentally conscientious and “Thomas the Train”? If that ain’t full-blown communism in animation, my name ain’t ???.

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How can you be a Catholic and get an abortion, just sayin…..

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@@–

With a national rate of vaccination under 30% it’s with good reason. It is not often you tell people they need a medication and they don’t accept it.

Ignorance and insouciance is pandemic particularly in the red states.

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NIF

You make the point that Taxpayer “would not have supported their actions around the year 1942…”
Of course by then it was too late. And I won’t go so far as to say he would not have. Millions of good Germans who would have been outraged had the Nazis used the terms “Vernichtung” (extermination) or “Moerd” (murder) had no problem with “Aussiedlung” (resettlement) as an Endloesung (final solution) to the “Judenfrage” (Jewish question.)

I keep bringing up the book burning comment and, yes, I know it was said in hyperbole, but what is the difference in the poster’s call to burn Palin’s book and the actions of those who bonfired the Beatles records which he decries out of the other side of his mouth? They are one and the same and it’s no great leap from this to an Enloesung to whatever the Frage…

You and I may come from “opposite sides” of the political philosphy spectrum in a free and democratic society, but that we both see the potentials for a sad repeat of history speaks to the existence of a problem we should be aware of….

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Good job republicans. Moves like this and fillibustering the unemployment extension for millions of
unemployed all across America, thus ensuring a bleak holiday for the victims of Wall St greed, will grease your “party” ’s skid into irrelevance. Millions of former republicans like myself, who are about to be homeless, with their families in the cold of winter WON’T FORGET !! We will return the favor in the next election !!!

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NIF,

I just don’t think that you’re ready for an open debate with me given all of your personal attacks. I’ll keep an eye out though and let you know when I think you’re ready.

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WWII

Roosevelt had to be dragged kicking and screaming into it long after he had all kinds of confirmation that Jews were being mass incinerated. Roosevelt turned his back on that for years.

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Jackie–I never said you made an “error” in grammar, syntax or lexical choice. Quite the opposite. And it’s not necessarilly my acumen…it’s part of the job training for forensic linguists…

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@josef nix

My take from your original post is you were attempting to play a sophisticated game of “the dozens.”

Now, to put it stark, clear, unadulterated terms, if you want to play, BRING IT!!!!

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Careful Jackie. You’ll get josef fired up and then he will let you know what for with his ‘impressive resume’ and before you know it, he will even have his new-found choir (of which I do believe @@ and NIF are seeking charter membership status) preaching about the joys of teaching little b*stids or some such hyperbole. Well, at least he does not deny his liberal leanings like @@ so that is a step in the correct direction.

Not to worry, josef. I’m just funnin’ with ya. I really love you… too. It’s what us Democrats do, dontcha know.

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@@ The problem with your chedrry picked crap is that you somehow managed to skip all the largest polls of this country that included both men and women that show a clear majority of this country wants a public option.

You’re going to get some kind of bill–you can take that to the bank.

There are sure the votes to pass a watered down piece of crap that forces middle and lower class earners to buy insurance that is a piece of crap and that will bankrupt them.

Whether a weak piece of crap public option passes or a better one is the only real question.

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Funny @@ didn’t bother to include Washington-Post ABC polls are WSJ NBC polls.

Funny @@ didn’t include the Robert Wood Johnson poll of 4000 MDs that was published in NEJM early September that showed 67% of physicians polled wanted a public option.

I’m sure it was accidental or reflected @@’s narrow reading habits.

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How many times does the poorly educated white hick have a Southern draw in real life on the street? Too damn many.

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Considering this is vastly unreported by numbers, it sure makes sense to kick the H1N1 vac to the curb.

At Least 114 US Kids Dead From Swine Flu

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ChattyWICK has his own poll?

I’m getting a visual here.

ewwww

Lighten up, Chad. You really do take life too seriously.

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heads stuffed with the AJC

josef,

How many months have you been saving this glorified flyer to pull that off?

By the way, you’re making friends hand over fist around here lately. /sarc

None of it that seems to be of your own making as far as I can see either.

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Well, I know we’re bound to loose in the national elections, but I say we give it the old try. What the heck, us Conservatives are dying off and we may as well raise as much Cain as we can before the illegals and Those People take over the country. So don’t vote for nobody that’s for abortions, gay marriage, or Obama health care. It’s better to die off as a good Conservative than act like there’s nothing wrong. One day young people will be asking what’s a Conservative? Then they’ll read about us and we’ll be famous. Dead, but famous.

Have a good Saturday night everybody.

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RW

“How many months have you been saving this glorified flyer to pull that off?”

Well, the last few times Unmentionable went fishing, he didn’t catch much!

Friends hand over fist…it’s been rather fun in its own way…on the other hand, I have had some rather enlightening exchanges of the civil sort…as Granddaddy always said, “consider the source and no offense meant, none taken…” BTW wet wiccan is wanting more information on the trailer park bash…!

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Taxpayer

Get a clue. You will never be ready to debate me. You obviously have an overt fear of knowledge and knowledge would definitely be a prerequisite.

I don’t think you understand how you appear to others. You jumped me for talking about Joseph Goebbels to another poster, and in that post, you seemed to infer that any knowledge of the history of fascism in Germany was a bad thing. I simply pointed out that it wasn’t.

My advice would be that if you don’t want your statements that support ignorance of history being pointed out to you, that you stop praising that ignorance. Some of us actually read history books and (gasp) have done it since we have been in school.

As far as personal attacks, if it were important to me, I could go back and cut and paste post after post after post where you have no problem attempting to attack anyone that might disagree with you.

I have seen your feeble attempts at debate. My biggest problem in debating you is dumbing it down where you could understand it. After al, I have a bad habit of actually using facts and knowledge as a basis for what I say. And as seen today, that very fact would leave you completely defenseless.

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josef

It’s rare to find someone who has an understanding of pre WWII Europe. One of these days, we will need to spend some time talking about this and ignoring the little people who are afraid of knowledge.

I’m heading for the church. We are having a big party for the kids. Since the weather kind of sucks, I’m sure it will be a big party. Off to Walmart to buy more candy.

Have a good night.

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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton trumpeted the result as a diplomatic triumph, but it’s more accurate to say that it extricated her and the Obama Administration from the box canyon they entered by throwing in with Mr. Zelaya. Hondurans had deposed Mr. Zelaya on entirely legal grounds for threatening violence and violating the country’s constitution in an attempt to run for a second term. The U.S. nonetheless meddled and demanded that Mr. Zelaya be reinstated.

But Hondurans refused to bend, and the State Department apparently decided at last that Honduras was going to go ahead with its election whether the U.S. agreed or not. The Honduran compromise provided Mrs. Clinton with an elegant diplomatic exit.-WSJ

And another big fat loss, hahahaha, mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

clowns

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Gov Option Done Deal!

So Doc.

Are you still using the ICD-9 Billing platform or are you already using the ICD-10? You know that Europe has been using ICD-10 for some time now.

So what would be the ICD-9 code for genital warts?

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Cites and Sites

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Why do I get the feeling Mad Harris’s house gets egged every year?

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They’re here! Back at y’all later…

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This blog column is nothing but a hissy fit.

so sayeth the biggest hissy throwing the biggest fits.

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Kinda sad — we haven’t had a little trick ‘r treater since we moved here. Too far to walk I guess. Driveways too long, houses too far apart.

I miss ‘em. Kids say and do the funniest things.

After my little charge had her bath last night, she was all bundled up in one of those little animal towels…Semper was letting her look at herself in the mirror. Nothing but her little face showing. With all the fanfare of a hollywood actress, she’d look in the mirror, point that little finger at either herself or Semper (couldn’t really tell which) and say…

“YOU! I LOVE YOU!!!!” over and over again.

Very gregarious.

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This is great news for rational Americans. It means that the crazies are in charge of the Republican party and the split in the party is widening. It’s only a matter of time before the party splits in two and becomes too small to cause any real problems.

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The conservatives are eating their own.

The schadenfreude is delicious.

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Okay, the rain’s moved back in and it’s getting a little late for the little ones, low turnout, only about a 100 or so…

G-d! I love America! Had an Argentine gaucho, a band of Gypsies all done up in the traditional, and, my favorite of all, the Muslim lady who veils, with her brood of goblins and, in keeping with the spirt of the season, she still wore the hijab but had painted her face, perched a witches’ hat on top of the hijab and carrried a broom! N. from down the way, who is one of my Latin students,€€ came dressed as a Roman soldier with his friend dressed as a Viking. I was informed that the latter “thinks he’s a Visigoth, but he’s really an Ostrogoth, so he’ll lose in the end!” N. is nine years old. Then there was the little French girl who informed me that she was la chatte noire.

DOGGONE–I nearly died laughing at one and it was YOU in my mind. One of the little ones came dressed as President Obama, suit and all that…the only “costume” was a pair of the biggest jug ears you nearly ever saw!

A late bunch just came by and I was unloading, Dad says, “they were whining earlier that ‘we’re late, we won’t get anything, I told ‘em, ‘you just wait. You’ll be gettin’ ALL that left over…”

NORM for you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6yzjDXp_og&feature=related

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UGA got spanked but now I’m watching my team, UK…GO ‘CAT’S… So I’ll wish you a wonderful evening, and see you in the AM. G’night!

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Well I’m guessing about 90% of my trick or treaters got bussed in, but they were mostly a polite bunch. I did have some fun when I saw a few that were just a tad too old coming around the corner. I left the door slightly ajar so that when they knocked it opened by itself. After I could hear them freaking out I popped around the door and we all had a good laugh.

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Did someone near and dear to my heart ask for the Viking Kitties?

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RW–glad to see ya and glad to know you had a good one…we get a lot of bussed in, too. At the risk of making some enemies, we ARE Buckhead and man, let me tell you, some of the neighbors put on a show! One of the guys down the way does sound for the movies and his presentation is Academy Award…another neighbor is with the Swiss Consulate and hands out Swiss chocolates…I always try to borrow a few kids…

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It is commons knowledge Bookman is a bigoted Jew who has a deep hatred for white Christians. So his writings are meaningless except for the bigoted sidekicks who agree with this bigoted Jew.

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Thank you, RW.

And a Viking Kittie just for you.

(IW&SH)

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@@
Girl, you jus’ plumb baaad!

midori–
Thought you’d like that! Now, choir, for Andy, “allons enfants de la patrie, le jour de gloire est arrive..”

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Thanks @@! Any chance you could animate her next time?

/I guess it really is my job to do that though…(IWH)

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Halloween, i r O diM’s favorite holiday, cause she don’t have to dress up for it.

cackle cackle dimmy.

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@@

It won’t let me in!!

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After cutting open the top of our pumpkin and emptying out the contents of the “head,” we decided to our Jack O’ Lantern “Barak.”

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Poor bitter, powered wig wearing Andy.

It’s gonna be all right.

Have a petite four.

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Josef

Did you get the trick-or-treater I sent your way? Sounds like you had some fun tonight. I pulled another 12hr day. Wasn’t home when the kiddies were out.

RW/@@

I don’t know which viking kitties I liked more… May have to view each one a few more times.

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This WH has class:

WASHINGTON – It’s the ultimate trick-or-treating treasure, that one house on the block that offers the coolest candy and surprises galore.

This year it’s the big gated place on Pennsylvania Avenue, No. 1600. Welcome to the White House, boys and girls.

President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama awaited more than 2,000 children Saturday night from the District of Columbia, Maryland and Virginia. The Obamas themselves were to spend time handing out goodies to the trick-or-treaters on the most famous front porch in America, the North Portico.

What do you get for Halloween at the White House?

Not bad, kids: A box of White House M&Ms with the president’s signature imprinted on it, a sweet dough butter cookie made by White House pastry chef Bill Yosses, a National Park Foundation Ranger activity book, and a serving of dried fruit mix made up of cherries, apricots, pears, apples and papayas.

By early afternoon, a big, stuffed, black spider was dangling in a web of string from the top of the portico, and pumpkins had sprouted up around the columns. The White House will be lit orange for the occassion, and three giants pumpkins — about 1,000 pounds each — will be on the grounds.

The loot is just part of the treat for the kids, ages 6 to 14. The White House said that set to roam the North Lawn were fairies, bubble makers, wandering trees, Star Wars characters, theater actors and artists and a “skeleton band.”

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If Midori will just post that one more time she’ll have her own petite four.

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you hush, RW!!!

You’ve neglected me for weeks!!!

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midori–

Now THAT’s the President I want…thanks! Like I said from the get-go, he and she may p*ss me off, but when it comes to kids, well, so far they have my admiration…this just reconfirms my “joy, joy, joy” mood…and DDR–are ya payin’ attention?

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josef:

Sorry. Here’s a substitute.

The other one? Try to imagine Dennis Franz in a furry loincloth and longhorns.

That substitute’s legs are humongous.

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I had a young man show up with a red bulb nose, floppy feet and red haired wig, I asked him if he was a clown, he said , no, I am the president.

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Dang! That one’s a fluke too.

josef:

Maybe jay don’t want you lookin’ at viking men here?

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I had a young man show up with a red bulb nose, floppy feet and red haired wig, I asked him if he was a clown, he said , no, I am the previous president.

fyt

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ABM my 10:25 got moderated, no offense taken, think I know why, will try again….

Gotcha! That was about the sweetest thing I’ve seen in a long time! Thank you!!!! That just warms the c*ckles of my cold, cold heart! Makes all the other stuff fall by the wayside, doesn’t it?

@@

It’s the thought that counts! And I think I know what’s up…well, what WOULD be…oops, don’t want to get moderated…

K’chak
Now we know where we’re holding the bash!! Hear that RW?

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josef

Yes, it does!! Did ya check the vid? That’s for the Unmentionable too.

RW

I’m not much of a fan of cats, so in the beginning @@ was way, way, waaaaaayyyy ahead. But any cat that can don a helmet, with horns, and wield a battle axe is one hella cat in my book. Almost worthy of sidekick status. It’s a toughie though. Blonde, legs and boots??!!!

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@@

Jay’s just jealous, thass all!

midori @ 10:17

Now THAT I’d pay money to see!

RW
Manners do seem to be making a comeback…more and more of my students come in with “ma’am” and “sir.” I think the current generation of parents are seeing the error of their parents’ ways…
The other day we had a visitor and I asked one of our students if he would escort her to where she needed to go. His response, “it would be my pleasure. Please, come with me, ma’am” was so natural and she was absolutely astounded and, as she left, asked me to give his parents her note thanking them for “job well done.”

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ABM–
G’night to ya and thanks again for the warm and fuzzy. Unmentionable says to tell ya you’re raising her right!

Blonde, legs and boots? SShhh, DADT!

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RW–
Will K’chak join us? But, of course, we just have to make sure he knows which shoes to wear!

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Elrey…
Wo gehts du, Mein Fueher?

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@@,

I believe we have a failure you to communicate and are using vastly different definitions of the word animate.

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RW:

I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU JUST HIT ME WITH AN EMOTICON.

At least it’s not animated.

Goodnight, RW.

(IYH)

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And RW….just so you know

I’m waving at you.

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K’chak

Futbol! Of course!

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josef

Not just futbol—CHELSEA futbol!

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RW & @@

So there! Inspid…ain’t you just plumb uppity!

midori–
Good habits? They’re not all they’re cracked up to be…

K’chak–

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Where’s Bruno? It would appear that my reverse moving point-spread theory worked in both of the games he was struggling with. But I did jinx myself by posting my picks this morning. I’m only going to be 19-1 for the day. Freaking Ole Miss…dammeet!

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Jewish? Yes. Jay’s? I dunno

Born into a Jewish family, Roman’s paternal grandparents were exiled to Siberia from Tauragė, Lithuania by the Soviets after the occupation of Lithuania in 1940.

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The Bulimia Nervosa Party, aka the neo-conned, continue purging.

An odiferous but humorous trail of vomit is now at the Canadian border.

No wonder the percentage of Americans who consider themselves a card carrying member in that floundering farce is at an all time low…

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Look at this convoluted headline-

Hope dims for Iran nuke deal -Urinal

Be careful of what you hope for, mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

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KABUL, Afghanistan — Abdullah Abdullah, the chief rival to President Hamid Karzai, plans to announce today his decision to withdraw from the Nov. 7 Afghan runoff election, handing a new five-year term to Karzai but potentially damaging the government’s credibility, according to Western diplomats here and people close to Abdullah. -Urinal

Well, so much for that brilliant plan, Hair Plugs, let me guess, Obozo, mmm, mmmm, mmmmm, is going to push his “decision” until next year’s elections, right?

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Bulimia Nervosa Party!

Our 17 percenters gorge themselves and then purge! They’re the “Gorge-Purge-Repeat” Party! Wow! How long before you get accused of bigotry and racism and facism and stalinism, etc., etc., for that one. hehehe.

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Did everyone remember to reset their clocks. Well, except the blog meister.

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AmVet, I played “The Navy Hymn, one from JC, Superstar, and Spirit In The Sky, so I stayed on topic and overcame the desire to play this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY1APSk0SS0

Ain’t I a meanie…

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AMVet Great ones! I especially love Armed Forces hymns, and the Velvet Underground, WOW!

I’ve always said that music is really what makes peace. You know me, I’m always preachin’…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMj7UcjPZ0U

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S’posed to be Sunday Will never be the same, sorry.

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H1N1 Vaccinations To Be Offered To Guantanamo Bay Detainees

Tell them you are filling them full of Pig Flu and then urinate on their Koran, that’s what I’m talking about.

Anybody got a camera? Where’s Lyndee when we need her.

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Tell them you are filling them full of Pig Flu and then urinate on their Koran, that’s what I’m talking about.

I hear the military could use a few good men. Why don’t you volunteer for the job.

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Don’t know how I missed this earlier, but it looks like the All Your Uterus Are Belong To Us brigade will have to think of other ways to fundraise for the defense of Scott Roeder.

EBay refuses benefit auction for Roeder

One drawing was of David and Goliath that depicted David holding the head of Goliath and the name “Tiller” on Goliath’s forehead. The words “child-murdering industry” were written on the corpse.

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Good on ebay. Morally they did the right thing; why help scumbags and conservatives who use god’s name to murder innocent people.

Taxpayer, in his World According to Garp, Anduhng’s already fought. Alongside Bill O’Reilly.

It was either with Teddy on San Juan Hill or in Ronnie’s world saving meat grinder in Grenada.

He wants to p!ss on their Koran and his Abrahamic cousins want to wipe their arses with his Bible.

Sounds like a draw to me…

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Corzine campaign staffer arrested on drug charges…

hehehehehehe

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Aren’t you one of those always talking about the gov’t impeding on people’s freedoms. And you want to disparage someone’s religion? You’re pathetic.

Sarcasm versus the left wingers like yourself inciting violence and getting a bunch of innocent people killed.

And soldiers killed too.

You got some nerve…

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Dude,

You keep wanting to call me a left winger, and I have to keep reminding you that I don’t ascribe to either left or right thinking. I try to keep away from that type of partisan stuff. And if you can show where I’ve incited violence, feel free to do so.

Thank you, and have a nice day…

And yes, I have nerve, the likes that you’d never want to come across when I’m pissed.

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ABM, your ABD, tres cute!!!

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WHINER, your question will be answered…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CpWkYc1ZsA

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Josef…

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“Where’s Bruno? It would appear that my reverse moving point-spread theory worked in both of the games he was struggling with.”

I went 2-2 yesterday, so broke even for the day. I’m trying to get some NFL picks together, but just don’t feel lucky this weekend.

“S’posed to be Sunday Will never be the same, sorry.”

Normal–I’m a big fan of Spanky and our Gang. Spanky McFarlaine had one of the great “smoky coffee house” voices in her time. Besides their familiar radio hits, they had a lot of creative songs on their albums. I still have them on vinyl and cassette.

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josef–For some reason, this one always tugs at my heart strings:

http://www.lacyjdalton.com/Everybody-Makes-Mistakes.htm

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“Mornin’ Bruno. I trust you contributed some great stuff last Friday evening…”

I threw out a few numbers, including “I’m Your Captain/Closer To Home” and ELP’s “From the Beginning”.

“Another really fine song for a Sunday morning…”

Awesome Gordon Lightfoot selection, Am, got it playing right now. Sometimes I’ll play that one back-to-back-to-back.

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I saved this one for you today, Am:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ6dMq33bk8&feature=related

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“I’m inclined to get a little “frisky”.”

I’ll just let that one stand as is.

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A Dylan number for our own frisky little @@:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8iieirYDLA&feature=related

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Moderates Need Not Apply to the Teabag Party.

But 140 million people vote.

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Carole King Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow (without having to log in)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XFLruFA-9Y

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Did I hear “Frisky”?!!

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What President Bush “used to do it” according to Little Dickia Cheney is jerk himself off while he made it possible for thousands to die.

That’s how he “used to do it.”

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Gov Option Done Deal!

**jerk himself of**

Yes, you are definitely a physician. LOL!! And a reeeeal classy one, too.

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ABM, I know you are not here but for later- 90% of the time you espouse the liberal viewpoint, you side up with the liberals on this blog, you speak out against Conservatism, you want to fight me in the street but I hardly ever see you disagree with any pinkos, what do they say, a horse by any other name?

I posted a sarcastic comment that should have been easily identifiable as, for what the liberals once threw a gigantic screeching fit when Bush was president, they now herald as some sort of Glasnost with their little terrorist buddies.

Point being, I do not need you holding your own confusion against me. It is not my fault that you are ashamed of what you are and have to find an outlet to occasionally distance yourself from it.

Why don’t you, from now on, kick the dog or something like that?

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Here’s my dedication to Reporter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buuN6AlQtVM

“There’s one thing that I know that is a gift unto the giver…..”

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“Make sure you don’t get your H1N1 vaccine NIF like all the other teabaggers committing potential suicide and murder of their children.”

One of my secretaries had her kids vaccinated, the other didn’t. Guess which ones have been sick ever since?

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Angry Black Man

You know, it looked decisive, but SC had four turnovers and TN had none. That kind of turnover rate will win the game every time. I think they were pretty close on stats.

They are going to kill in the recruiting area next year. Everyone wants to work with the old guy.

Anything is better than Fulmer.

I’ll be cheering for you guys next week against LSU. That and the championship will be the two games to watch.

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Bruno

You have to trust him. He’s a doctor. At least he plays one on this blog.

He keeps crowing about health care reform, but he doesn’t seem to understand that the vaccine isn’t available to the general public yet.

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What represents the idiots who can’t get elected is an idiot that says Vaccine causes illness.

That’s about as medically stupid as it gets and typical of the Bookman teabaggers.

Tell those parents of the 122 known dead children (CDC’s statisticians estimate there are 2.7 dead for every one reported) that they’re just sleeping and they need some Big Chicken sauce rubbed on their heads and they’ll wake up.

The Repubozo extremists are science and medically brain DEAD.

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And a series of 2 secretaries where you don’t know what the hell “sick” means in one of the families is sure the medical literature I want to read and learn from. LOL

The ones that got vaccinated ain’t gonna be sick with something that puts them in Eggleston with a 3 million dollar bill and death like Summer Rockerfeller who died on 10/10/09 or the 22 year old who died at St. Joe of H1N1 flu.

Ah sure do lahk these idiots who have the grasp of medicine of a gerble.

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Bruno,

For what it’s worth, which is probably nothing, San Diego might look like a scary play at -17 but power ratings put them at about -24.

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Bruno

I’m just happy I’ll be able to watch some football today. Been doing lots of overtime lately. It will be nice to see someone getting laid out while running a post pattern.

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I’m back for one more…saw this one on the Carole King choice, and yes, I’ll admit this is an all time favorite movie of mine. When it was playing, I was between Navy times and just your typical, having a hard time adjusting Viet Nam vet. I was also going through some pretty rough times with my lady. When we walked out of that movie, I told her that you could always tell a good love story by the feeling of futility you had when it was over. Thank the Gods, she proved me wrong. Anyway…enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNEcQS4tXgQ&feature=related

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good enough to guarantee to cover.

Bruno,

If you’re looking for guarantees you’ve got the wrong hobby. On Buffalo it’s just a hunch, but keep in mind in my contest I get a raffle ticket if Buffalo wins and nothing if they lose so it’s a lot easier to play a hunch.

In fact my NFL picks this weeks are all home teams except I have the Giants beating Philly.

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So all you Repubozos ready to pony up the $2000 bribe it takes to get each fuel truck across the Khyber Pass in Afghanistan to support an additional 40,000 troops? But you’re worried about health care spending.

We don’t want no effin’ details do we?

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Bruno, just between you and me…I coulda gotten lost insidea her…

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Gotta run and get the picks in, hope everyone has a great day.

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How’s Palin Country in Mayetta Home Big Chicken responding to H1N1 vacination?

http://bit.ly/1eQ9Az

“MARIETTA – Cobb & Douglas Public Health Department reported that it received 2,300 new doses of the inactivated H1N1 vaccine on Friday and will administer it in limited quantities at its health centers on Monday. A mass vaccination clinic will be from 2 p.m. to 7 p.m. Tuesday at Jim Miller Park, 2245 Callaway Road in Marietta.

The department said it administered all of its previous 4,800 nasal-spray doses of the H1N1, or swine flu, vaccine in the past two weeks. Initially, two million doses of vaccine were expected by the state health department by the end of October. However, delays in manufacturing prevented delivery of that amount.

Cobb & Douglas Public Health spokeswoman Darlene Foote said her department was told that volumes will increase over the next several weeks. As of Wednesday, the Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported a total of 443,200 doses of the H1N1 vaccine shipped to Georgia and 16,870,000 doses nationwide.

To date, there have been about 34 H1N1-releated hospitalized cases in Cobb and Douglas counties, said Foote. Four people in Cobb have died. Between April 24 and Oct. 27, 601 people have been hospitalized and 33 have died in Georgia.

Foote said the five target groups for vaccination efforts – as recommended by the CDC -are pregnant women, individuals who live with or provide care for infants, health-care and emergency medical services personnel, children and young adults ages 6 to 24 months, and those between age 25 and 64 who have medical conditions that put them at higher risk for influenza-related complications.

The vaccine, she said, is being distributed to physician’s offices, hospitals and public health clinics.”

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All the leaves up front and back in 1:15 minutes or :15 minutes if you are on bookman blog time, not bad for a lawn ate up with 80 foot tall bradford pears, river oak, white oak, sweetgum, pine, three not quite 30′ crape myrtles and it seems like every freaking leaf from the neighbor’s trees too, I love all of them, the neighbors, not the tree.

Except the libs, of course.

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ABM- Occasional dabbling does not a Conservative make.

You either are or you aren’t.

Moderates are spineless and confused and usually brimming with liberal propaganda, um, like you..

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Enjoyed the EW selections, Am.

One for all of us:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-KAvPbO8JY

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Normal, that was great! I kinda missed them other than a couple of radio hits…

Thanks Bruno,

I remember the morning George died.

I cried for a little while; silly I know… but especially after John, I felt like part of me was gone…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm_N3bjqlr4

and late in his career…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV13Gg0BZd8

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Good for you, Bears fans, boo the bums. One of the premiere quarterbacks in the league, he has to run for his life trying to set up a two yard screen pass.

Coaching change, please.

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Favre back at Lambeau for the first time is game enough for me.

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Just noticed Jay’s clock is wrong…Heh, heh

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I don’t claim any party affiliation nor ideological line of thinking because that’s what’s precisely gotten our country into the s*ithole it’s in now. When people are so motivated to follow their ideological thinking, even if it’s to the detriment of the country, we all suffer.

ABM- You sound like mike now.

You may want to check this out but all the compromise comes from my positions against abortion, gay marriage, for a strong national defense, a pro United States sentiment, an unquestioning commitment to the mission of our soldiers and an absolute disdain of a high tax, redistribution of wealth, socialist economic system.

And above all, the belief that our children are not pawns to be used for advancement of political ambitions.

I’m the extremist?

One day, it will dawn on you.

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Whiner

Have I called you an extremist? Pulling words out of my mouth? If you got that from what I posted, then I guess the old wise saying “a hit dog will always holler” rings true then, huh.

Do you not agree our country is in a s*ithole? You whine incessantly about how Obama is ruining the country. Are you now changing your posititon? There was no double meaning to what I posted. Following Idealogues always leads to trouble, left, right, communist, facist, it doesn’t matter. If you couldn’t comprehend, let me make it a little more simple for you.

I don’t let anyone think for me. I make my own decisions and choices. What I choose to do is to make my country better not split it into splinter groups. Sometimes my thinking aligns with liberals, sometimes with conervatives, sometimes with constitutionalist, and sometimes with libertarians. That’s what makes our country so friggin’ great. I don’t HAVE to belong. Some people feel the need to belong, and that’s good for them. I’m just not that person.

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ABM- Yes, you called me an extremist-

When people are so motivated to follow their ideological thinking, even if it’s to the detriment of the country, we all suffer.

If it is so, then I am a proud extremist.

Liberalism reared it’s disgusting head in the 1960’s and you can trace the decline of our nation to that very date, the destruction of the family, the plague of drug use, the decline of education, and for what, so a few squishes can feel good about being chummy with everybody?

Count me out of your world.

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“You may want to check this out but all the compromise comes from my positions against abortion, gay marriage, for a strong national defense, a pro United States sentiment, an unquestioning commitment to the mission of our soldiers and an absolute disdain of a high tax, redistribution of wealth, socialist economic system.”

What compromise? See this is were we differ in thought.

Abortion – I’m personally against abortion, just like you. However, I am neither G*d nor female. I can’t tell a woman what she’s allowed to do with her body. That choice is between her and her personal G*d. I am unable to die for someone else’s sins. I can’t absolve anyone of their sins. Therefore, I have no right or claim to tell a woman what to do with her body.

Gay Marriage – The Constitution says we have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It doesn’t limit it to heterosexuals only. Once again, I’m neither G*d nor homosexual. I don’t see gay marriage as a threat to national security or to my personal security. If a church chooses to perform or not to perform said marriages, it’s up to that church. If it’s a sin, then the person committing it has to answer for it, not me.

Strong National Defense – I agree with you on that. We need to keep ourselves safe, even if it calls for pre-emptive strikes if it threatens us as a nation. A strong national defense also should mean that we quit trying to be policemen of the world, and only deal with what affects us as a country.

Pro U.S. Sentiment – I wouldn’t have enlisted in the Army or signed on to do the job that I do if I didn’t have it. Same for committment to our soldiers, remember, I see them on a daily basis coming from Iraq and Afghanistan. I make sure to let them know how much I appreciate what they do.

High taxes – who loves that anyway?

Redistribution of wealth – tee hee hee

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ABM–

Don’t you know that your melanin determines your thought processes?

I am alternately amazed, amused and angered by folks who insist that because you may agree with them on point A, that means you agree with them straight down the party line according to the latest memo or that if you disagree with them on point B, then you’re “them, the enemy.” RW made the comment yesterday that I was making friends hand over fist because I dared to question the “my prejudices are acceptable” line of non-thought being exhibited by some of the more liberal posters here and, when I found myself sharing thoughts and ideas with some of the more conservative, I was accused of being a choir master because they agreed, more or less, with SOME of what I was saying.

You’re black, you can’t criticize President Obama’s policies AT ALL. I’m white, if I DO then I’m a racist. I can’t make the point that certain conservatives have spoken my case for gay equality more forcefully than many liberals without being accused of being some kind of heretic. You can’t preach the work ethic without someone charging you with Uncle Tomism (though they’d never dare say it so bluntly).

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If anyone’s still following the original topic, Scozzafava has officially endorsed Democrat Bill Owens.

Figured I’d just paste the statement in its entirety–

I want to thank you for your support and friendship. Over the past 24 hours, I have had encouraging words sent to my family and me. Many of you have asked me whom you should support on Tuesday.

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Well, things are a bit slow here today. The music is going. ABM and Andy are having a bit of a scuffle. Glad it’s on a blog. Put that gun away, ABM and hush, Andy. Now that’s settled. I think.

Anyway, our homeless man at church was there today. Sat by me in Sunday School. A bearded. blue eyed, middle aged white man who is quite literate and seemingly well educated. Was pretty clean today. Teeth still black. Appears to be wearing several layers of clothes. Sits sipping coffee totally relaxed. I wish I wouldn’t keep wondering “Why is he homeless?” I don’t want to ask him. As far as I know, he doesn’t ask for help. Does it not make one wonder when you see the homeless WHAT HAPPENED? And what do you do when there is obviously nothing you can do?

By the way, do any of you have car and home insurance with State Farm? Their quotes are better than what I have currently. Just wondering….

I”m totally OFF SUBJECT. Sorry..

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Ms. Dusty

The gun is locked away. I wouldn’t hurt him. Since I’m a “liberal”, I must show compassion and let him live. I guess you can rack it up to “Baby Brother Syndrome”. I do not like people to think or speak for me or to think that they do so. Glad church was nice.

As for State Farm, I had them years ago. They decided to quit writing policies along the Gulf Coast after Katrina, and stopped writing policies in California the same year. I then decided to stop sending them money based upon their business decisions. They’re a good company, but in good conscience, I couldn’t keep that policy knowing that people who really needed it couldn’t get it.

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DUSTY

ABM on State Farm beat me to it. We cancelled out State Farm policies after Katrina in protest.

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ABM, I hope I did not sound like I was belittling your posts..I had not read your 4:12 when I posted mine. Your philosophy makes good sense to me. May we all stay free and may we care enough to preserve it. You said that much better than any attempts I can make.

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Dusty

I didn’t get that feeling from your post at all. As much as we are different, we are so much alike. That’s also why I enjoy reading your posts. Guess it’s the southerner in me.

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“If you want to be taken seriously you need to make your predictions while the games are still in the future.”

Houston came through like a champ despite their early missteps. That was my only pick this am–I chickened out at the last minute on Chicago. For the pm, I’m going with San Diego as RW suggested. Oakland is terrible, especially on the road.

Don’t forget, RW, GODD is predicting New Orleans in a wipeout over Atlanta. On paper, it would look that way, although this particular rivalry has produced some close games and outright upsets over the years.

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ABM–
I was with a group of my fellow bleeding hearts one evening and, given my job, they were all just certain that I was in their camp all the way around. I was asked my opinion on “what we should do.” I answered, honestly, that i thought we should bring the troops home and post a soldier every 15 yards along the frontier and shut it down post haste. How could I be so “cold.” They didn’t seem to want to hear my “…and then…” which was to regularize the status of those already here, working and contributing to the American dream…

The Unmentionable has a lot of fun along the same line. He starts out with, “round ‘em all up and ship ‘em back where they came from and that includes the white folks and black folks, too…far as I’m concerned the whole lot of ya are illegals..” And, no, I don’t THINK he really means it, but he does say he’s got me a first class ticket reserved…

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“so let it be written, so let it be done”

er, ABM — Wasn’t that Yul Brenner (Ramses)?

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Uh, how about “government of the people, by the people and for the people..”

We probably could include the right of free speech, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, a free press…

Nice freaking try yosef, adopt the founding fathers principled beliefs against the tyranny of government, even as your president conducts the most tyrannical administration in history.

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Whiner–

Well, he is MY president just the same as he is YOURS and this is by no means “the most tyrannical administration” in history. Old Abe’s and Ole Hickory’s put this one in the shade. And, for the love of G-d, since when do I have to agree with everything Ima Gonna Nero does (or in my case, does NOT do) just because I call myself a liberal? It’s my liberal views that have me set against so much of what’s coming out (or NOT coming out) of 1600…

Well, the Russians are coming so I’ll check back in later…

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Look y’all, we have a clear starting point for liberalism in American history and it happens to coincide with the decline of our great nation.

We also have a clear starting point for a government that was founded on the tenets of a Christian God and was against the power of government, at that is also known as Conservatism.

I win.

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Normal,

the movie title is “The 10 Commandments”

One of my favorites.

Packed with stars – Brenner, Heston, Edward G. Robinson, Vincent Price, Anne Baxter, Yvonne DeCarlo — and directed by Cecil DeMille.

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Well, he is MY president just the same as he is YOURS and this is by no means “the most tyrannical administration” in history. Old Abe’s and Ole Hickory’s put this one in the shade.

How much more bent can someone’s thinking be?

Abraham Lincoln saved this nation and freed the slaves, Obozo hates it and is trying to destroy it.

Can you not hear the things he says or does?

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Obozo hates it and is trying to destroy it.

There is your sign.

Proof, please, and I don’t mean talking points.

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ABM & josef,

Ah..the many faces of immigration, the legal & illegal, the good & the bad, the taking and the giving, the morality and the immorality of the treatment of such persons.

Our history has shown us the great contributions of immigrants. They did the dirty work and then moved up while the next generation of immigrants took over the dirty work. They were hardworking, fine citizens who appreciated the USA.

Then came a time when it seemed the whole world wanted to be in the USA and immigration laws were made with quotas. Those laws are still in place for good reason.. I think they should be upheld.

My son-in-law is a legal immigrant from Colombia, SA. He is as fine as they come and we feel most fortunate to have him in our family. He has spent thousands (and he’s not rich) on immigration lawyers to be following everything the law requires. It is a lengthy process that takes years. But he is doing it legally because he does not believe in doing it any other way.

Now we have millions who are slipping into our country illegally. Most of them are hard working men who work to support poverty strciken families at home. Some are criminals. We commend hard workers and those who support their families. But I cannot say that they have any “right” to be here. Where do we stop when we ignore certain laws and enforce others? Where is justice?

josef, the saddest aspect of all are the innocent children. I honestly believe that no one wants to harm the children. Would Soloman say “the sins of the fathers so therefore..go.” or what?

When I worked in southern Arizona in the Sonoran Desert with the Papago, a dehydrated semiconscious man was brought into the hospital. He lived. But several hundred others died in the desert duing the summer. They try so hard and sometimes it is deadly. They seem willing to take the chance. Just another observation.

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Normal —

ABM — you are correct. Lincoln’s one AND ONLY concern was the preservation of the Union. To h*ll with the slaves.

As a matter of fact, he looked upon blacks as being inferior and he wanted to deport them all to Liberia.

In reality, The Emancipation Proclamation did not free a single slave. It was invalid in the South, and the slaves in the North were already free. And they were serving in the Union Army for little or no pay.

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Dusty

I had a resident with a green card boast to me how she and her friends came here illegally. They married US citizens and got legal residence. I almost blew a fuse. That’s one of the loopholes that I would love to close. When people say illegals, most assume Mexican. I have yet to send a Mexican back home, but I regularly turn Brazilians, Israelis, and Koreans around. Most enter on valid visas and just never leave.

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If conservatism is so against the power of government, why do they continually seek political office?

To keep liberals out of it?

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Whiner, our government was founded on the principle of religious freedom. You always seem to forget that, why?

Our nation was discovered by Christians seeking to escape religious persecution.

It was founded by men who spoke of a Christian God and left us voluminous evidence of their beliefs, none of which can be found at MyDD, abnormal, just sayin….

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Proof, please, and I don’t mean talking points.

>>>>On several occasions, Obama attacked American conduct in simplistic caricatures a European diplomat might employ or applaud. He accused America of acing “unilaterally, without regard for the interests of others” — a slander against every American ally who has made sacrifices in Iraq and Afghanistan. He argued that, “America has too often been selective in its promotion of democracy” — which is hardly a challenge for the Obama administration, which has yet to make a priority of promoting democracy or human rights anywhere in the world.<<<<

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Lincoln didn’t give a rat’s a$$ about slaves.

>>>>During the American Civil War, Lincoln used the war powers of the presidency to issue the Emancipation Proclamation, which declared “all persons held as slaves within any State or designated part of a State, the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States, shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free”<<<<

geez, man.

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There is no confirmatin process whatsoever as to Immigration judges–you can be cleaning floors at McDonald’s one day and appointed an Immigration judge the next. Most of them have no litigation experience whatsoever.

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John Bonehead Boehner doesn’t agree with H1N1 vaccination for Gitmo detainees, many of whom have done NOTHING.

Unfortunately a whole line of Supreme Court cases overrule Boehner who wouldn’t know caselaw if it bit him in the ass.

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Gov Option,

My son-in-law has never mentioned any feeling that judges showed partiality. They are BUSY and don’t waste any time which makes them sometimes curt and right to the point.

As to the qualifications of immigration judges,. I doubt that you are correct in your implications. Everythng in this world is not rotten as you usually suggest. Some judges MAY be better than others but that does not make all of them incompetent.

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Of course democrats don’t hate America, I mean really, look at tonite’s Fun and Games with US History lesson, brought to you DUmb Underground, maybe we freed the slaves but we didn’t want to!

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Y’all, be careful. Whiner’s mind is like a bear trap…once it closes, ain’t nothing gonna get it open again…just sayin’

Now I really gotta go, the wife is back from shopping. OY

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Dusty–

As usual you are way out of your depth and don’t know what you’re talking about. You imply your son in law is some kind of lawyer. Hip Hooray. I specifically was talking about federal immigration judges who are appointed by DOJ as plum appointments that require no prior litigation experience as an immigration judge and my statement about differences in outcome in Atlanta and Miami comes directly from extensive law reviews statistically comparing areas of the country. An immigrant is much more likely to be granted asylum in Miami, and often the “judges” are so badly experienced because they are political appointees they are schooled by the immigration lawyers who have been litigating in those particular courts for years and have deep experience where the vast majority of political appointees (appointment made by DOJ in immigration courts with no confirmation process in place).

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“Of course democrats don’t hate America”

The first time you’ve ever spoken the complete truth about your opposition party. I applaud you, Whiner. See, your fingers didn’t fall off from typing that.

What you think is hate for country is merely correcting misrepresentations of history. Read Lincoln’s writings and see what his opinion was. All politicians are alike no matter what party. Maybe that’s why conservatives have knowledge envy of liberals. Instead of just eating up what’s espoused, liberals actually research for themselves to find the truth.

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Not to mention that when DOJ lawyers oppose defense lawyers for immigrants, the judge owes their job to the DOJ. That’s hardly the context for impartiality, and its bad enough that the majority of federal judges get their after working for DOJ and never loose their “I’d eat my mother to prosecute” agenda.

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As long as Congress lacks the balles to tackle and fix Immigration law, there will be kvetching about a flawed system. And that length of time could be the rest of yourlife.

Some immigrants wait a full 15 years as the screwed up backlogged process plays out and it ain’t changing.

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Funny, chatting with Mrs. Decibels and mentioning the weird turn of events in NYs 23rd, she asked “So what does Nate from Five twenty-whatever think?”

Funny because I hadn’t thought to have a look at what everyone’s favorite (or at least geekiest) political prognosticator might have to say about this.

I’ll spare you reading the long post if you don’t feel like it–gist of it is, with so little time and so little decent polling to work with you can’t really say, it could be a double-digit victory either way and Nate wouldn’t be surprised. However, this stuck out…

The best-case scenario for the Democrats would seem to be a very narrow Owens win, which would leave conservatives feeling plenty empowered (and with plenty of people — notably Scozzafava — to blame) but would still give Democrats the seat in the Congress and leave them feeling less worried about the upside potential of conservative populism.

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American History 101

The Emancipation Proclamation was precisely as ABM put it, it specifically DID NOT free the slaves of those states which were not in rebellion.

Slavery was abolished by the 13th Amendment, passed after Lincoln had met his M*ker and his eternal judgment free of our latter day wishful thinking.

As for why I consider him a tyrant: he claimed there was a “higher law than the constitution” as his rationale for the suspension of the writ of habeas corpus, imprisonment without charges of his political opponents, the censorship of the press, censorship of the mail, limitations on freedom of assembly. His administration presided over the worst outbreaks of anti-semitism under the auspices of the institutions of the federal government, the beginning of the government sanctioned blood genocide of the Western Indians, war waged against civilians, the destruction of property with no military objective, the incarceration of non combattant women, children and the elderly in open air concentration camps with no provisions for food, clothing and shelter, the pow camps in which the conditions were such that several had death rates from disease, starvation and random acts of violence were higher than Andersonville…

That only scratches the surface…we won’t even go near the happy horsesh*t myth of “Reconstruction.”

Oh, yes, and Jim Crow? Sanctioned by the federal supreme court in Plessy v Ferguson in which the ONLY dissenting vote was that of Justice Harlan, the lone Southerner on the court and himself born into a slave owning family…read it, it’s quite enlightening on the vogue hypocracy of the post C*vil W*r “liberators.”

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Nuh uh, josef.

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Wow. It looks as though there were quite a few drum beats shared on this fine day.

And, a beautiful voice for the accompaniment.

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“It was invalid in the South, and the slaves in the North were already free”

That can’t be right. There were actually 2 proclamations and one of them freed the slaves in any “Confederate State” that did not come back to Union control by a certain date…and the other actually named the states.

If memory serves me correctly, it’s the other way around…it freed the slaves in any state NOT on the “Union side” and had no effect an any states fighting for the union that still had legal slavery.

In fact, that’s why we now have the state of West Virginia…because those counties of Virginia were in the process of “seceding” from the state of Virginia. The EP also did not apply to any of the border states that were slave holding, but did not secede.

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A little side light on the EP and why it was issued when it was: Eugenia Yates Levy Phillips, wife of anti-secessionist former Congressman Philip Phillips, had been taken POW under the infamous “Women’s Order” by the anti-Semite Benjamin Butler and incarcerated under the most puniative conditions on Ship Island, “the Devil’s Island of the North,” and the incident had caused an international row with Emperor Napolean and Queen Victoria (among others) lodging protest and threatening to break relations with the Washington government over the Union’s treatment of “women, Jews, Catholics and foreign nationals.” She was released in September 1862 at the time the EP was drafted and sent to London, Paris, Berlin and Amsterdam. It was not released in the United States until January, during which time it had had its effect on the foreign policies of the European powers…see the memoirs of Reverdy Johnson for this…

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Doggone

Think of it this way. Obama makes a proclamation that all Muslim are free to not wear headcovers. It would work for the US, but in Saudi Arabia it wouldn’t hold water. The CSA wasn’t part of the US during that time. Lincoln could have proclaimed until his face turned blue, but his words had no validity of law in the CSA.

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Midori–
With all due respect, I’d say Village Idiot Bush’s legacy reads pretty much like Lincoln’s, suspension of the writ of habeas corpus, censorship of the mails, etc…

Doggone–thanks for the clarification I meant to make that point as well, but my jerking knee got in the way! BTW–did you get my post to you at roughly 9 p.m. above?

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Whiner

Nope, Civil War didn’t free the slaves. The 13th Amendment did that. Slavery wasn’t even an issue of the War. The war was basically fought over economics and States rights.

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I agree with you Josef.

To go one step further, FDR’s detention of the Japanese during WW2 was disgusting and reprehensible as well.

IMHO.

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i r O diM- Perhaps you should make an attempt to comprehend what you posted at 6:34, or 7:34 bookman time.

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Of course the end of slavery was made possible by the war, but it was seen more as a punishment for the rebels than as a great act of moral imperitive. If it had been the latter, there would have been some provision for what to do with them once freed. The African American came out of that with freedom on a piece of paper (victory accomplished, good job!) and little else, their “liberators” turning them landless, penniless over to not even the mercies of their former masters, but to the mercies of their landless, penniless poor white neighbors to have to compete for the ashes and embers of a burnt to the ground wasteland.

Midori–just as a sidelight here, the first African American units to serve in a North American armed force were the Corps d’Afrique and Native Guards of New Orleans who were mustered into the C*nfededrate Army with full pay and commanded by African American officers. Judah Benjamin in 1861 proposed freeing those slaves and their families who would fight for the CSA. He got no where with it officially, but two generals, Patrick Cleburn and Nathan Bedford Forrest followed his lead. Forrest freed 44 of his and they rode with him til the end, among them was Jerry Forrest whom he credited with being the strategist brains behind his still studied guerrilla tactics…history is full of ironies…later Forrest would take the lead in Memphis in standing against the disenfranchisement (Memphis’ blacks were never disenfranchised) of the freedman and called for the admission of blacks to the medical and law schools…

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Ironic, isn’t it Josef?

The confederates paid them, but the union blacks pretty much had to beg for pay equality from their “emancipators”…..

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Taxxie,

ugghhhhh!!

however, that was one of my fav episodes

btw – Minnesota is losing control of this game.

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Doggone

I’d have to disagree with the recognization of the CSA. The Cotton economy was strong enough that England and France were poised to assist the Confederates on their side of the war. The issue of slavery is what made it difficult for them to join in.

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ABM

I read an interesting study on the failure of King Cotton diplomacy. It seems that France, England and Prussia had warehoused a considerable amount and by this time the Egyptian and Indian sources were being exploited. However, crop failures in 1859, 1860 and 1861 had forced them to import wheat from the United States and wheat was a Northern agricultural product and the Washington government used this as leverage…

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“Cotton economy was strong enough ”

The economy, yes…but not the social structures needed to maintain the economic systems that were producing the cotton. Most of the able-bodied men were, after all, engaged in a war. Lincoln issued the EPs in order to create the chaos that did ensue once news of the EP filtered through the South. There just were not enough able-bodied men available throughout the South to maintain the social and jucicial structures needed to keep the slaves in their state of slavery.

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Doggone–
Begging to differ, but chaos did not ensue on word of the EP, for two reasons, one, the African Southerner did not trust it given their experiences under occupation (impressment into the Union forces as laborers and cannon fodder) and, while it’s hard for many to understand, a sincere loyalty to their land of birth and they, as much as their non slave owning free neighbors, feeling that their homes were invaded and their families threatened. Sherman and his lot burned and looted the slave cabin right along with the big house…

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Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation, issued in 1863 after the costly Union victory at Antietam, freed all enslaved persons within the Confederacy. More significantly, it changed the goal of war to one not only to preserve the Union but also to end slavery.-PBS

There were no slaves in the North, morons.

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Powerful story on 60 minutes about some ABM could not stop.

Japanes Mob Boss Allowed In to US; Gets Liver Transplant in 6 weeks; buys it for a million bucks UCLA won’t talk and FBI suckered

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/09/AR2008050902544.html

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3 other yakuza were allowed in to the US and 4 Japanese mob members bought their way in and got liver transplants. Every US agency has its price.

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“but chaos did not ensue on word of the EP, for two reasons”

Not widespread chaos, maybe, but “chaos” didn’t have to be widespread to disrupt the war effort…which was the main intent. Even a few days delay in the shipping of equipment and supplies would have been capable of disrupting a major battle effort..for instance. Enough of that kind of supply disruption would be a major factor in crippling an army. And the further from the main supply depots of the South, the easier it was for such supply disruptions to impact the South’s war efforts.

Also, and this may actually be more important, the effect on some of the Northern supports was strengthened.

The EPs may not have had a major effect on slavery at the time they were announced, they may not have had a major economic effect at the time either…but there were important to weakening the South and strengthening the North.

“Sherman and his lot burned and looted the slave cabin right along with the big house…”

I’m not an apologist for Sherman, but OF COURSE he did. The slavery system was very important to the war supply and food systems of the South, and were important to their economy. He did what he did to disrupt, to the greatest extent he could, both the supply systems and the economic systems of his enemy. He couldn’t do that without also disrupting the slavery system, and the slaves themselves.

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RW–

I’m not reading you on the Vikings GB game. Maybe you can help me with what you mean. Farvre had a great game and he had a much better team. GB is a good team and Rodgers is definitely a talent but they have a way to go.

Rodgers is taking a lot of hits as Aikman said. Favre had a lot of time to throw most of the time.

What’s your line on the Sain’ts game?

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McClatchy has been doing a great job the last few years.

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During the Bush TARP the top 5 people were Goldman Sachs, one left Harvard. Paulson made something like 30 illegal calls to GS during the TARP bailouts.

Welcome to control of America by Wall Street–been goin’ on since you were a little girl.

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Doggone — you must excuse Marie.

Her wig is on too tight.

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@@,

Do you happen to know how many pension funds bought into those bonds from the likes of Goldman and others. Keep digging.

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Martha White shall rise again.

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“Her wig is on too tight”

I had an alternative post, maybe I should have just used them both! “When engaged in an argument with an idiot, it’s wise to be sure he is not engaged in doing the same” or, in other words, if you’re going to call someone a moron…better be sure the insults can’t be lobbed back!

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Doggone–
I do tend to agree with much of what you say.

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Well, maybe it did and maybe it didn’t. I have a Yankee friend who says there are two types of Southerners, the ante Bellum Southerner who doesn’t know a war has been fought and the post Bellum Southerner who doesn’t know it’s over.

I tend to be of the Cherokee General Stand Watie, I agree to stop fighting, not to surrender!

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Mama ocean hold me to you…..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84L3y81TRzg

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Too bad it’s not the whole thing…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRyIMqXA_o8

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good one, Taxxie!!

bet you once drove a ‘57 Chevy!!

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“right now on History International: “Sherman’s March””

I always judge shows like that on their willingness to tell the unvarnished truth..which few do. For Sherman’s March – if they don’t mention that it was, essentially, an economic attack…it’s varnishing the story.

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Doggone,

the devastating effect the march had on the economy is the focus of the program.

up until now, anyway…..

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Midori

I’ve seen that one. It shows Sherman’s complete march all the way back to Virginia. Also shows that the “emancipators” allowed slaves to drown on Sherman’s orders.

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It’s time for me to call it a night. I’ll catch up with everyone tomorrow.

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“the devastating effect the march had on the economy is the focus of the program”

Sound like it might be good then! I’m listening to something about the solar system narrated by Alec Baldwin. Not really paying a lot of attention to it, but I could listen to that man read the phone book!

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Nice 80s tune:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dphpDdfZUGw

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“Some northerner shot Lincoln.

That pretty much summed it up”

Boothe was not a northerner. He was born in Maryland.

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as a matter of fact, the Boothe family was a prominent southern institution.

Boothe went over the edge over the proclamation.

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“Maryland is north of me now and was northeast of me when I lived in California, DoggoneIt”

Not good enough, the world doesn’t revolve around you..you know.

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Like many Marylanders, the Boothe’s were probably more Southern than the folks from Georgia. He was pretty much the Tom Cruise of his day, incidentally…Marylanders had an axe to grind with Lincoln dating back to his and Butler’s actions during the early days of the secession crisis when the above mentioned outrages were the order of the day up to and including the arrest and detention of suspect members of the Maryland legislature…

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-In a three way contest Doug Hoffman leads Bill Owens by 19 points. In a two way contest Hoffman leads Owens by 15 points. So the Dede Scozzafava withdrawal and endorsement will probably tighten the race some but not nearly enough.

-58% of Republicans think that Scozzafava’s a liberal and that was obviously before her endorsement today.-PPP

An obvious fact that eludes some liberal columnists.

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“DoggoneIt”

BTW…is it spelling or reading comprehension that you failed?

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“I enjoy the power.”

I’m sure you do, but *I* have the power to deny you that pleasure.

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Apologies to history buffs accepted! BUT in our defense:

“Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”– Georges Santyana
“The past is not dead. It’s not even past.”–William Faulkner
“History for the masses is written by the victors.” Winston Churchill

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Josef…I like this one: “History doesn’t repeat itself, but it does rhyme” Mark Twain

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Bruno, another killer choice.You and I would have never made it as FM DJs, unless there was a station for deep cuts only…

I almost forgot how much I loved that debut album. And those two Wilson sisters were REAL easy on the eyes to boot…

If that was THE debut album of 1976, this one may have been it for 1977…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UQBxWtZacc

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josef:

I entered the topic with an “Oops! Sorry”. What more can I say? Except…

The very ink with which all history is written is merely fluid prejudice.
Samuel Clemens – Following the Equator

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“By the Law of Periodical Repetition, everything which has happened once must happen again.”
–Samuel Clemens, “Letters from the Earth.”

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History and democrat propaganda are two entirely different subjects.

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There’s at least 2 other ways.

“All right then, run, lady, and you keep on running. Buy yourself a bus ticket and disappear. Change your name, dye your hair, get lost – and then maybe, just maybe, you’re gonna be safe from me.” — Ben Quick in Long Hot Summer

Thank you again, Bruno.

josef:

It is not worthwhile to try to keep history from repeating itself, for man’s character will always make the preventing of the repetitions impossible. — Mark Twain in Eruption

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this one may have been it for 1977…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVu5kOirklM&feature=related

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“Be cool or be cast out……”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LunOB0G1ZyY&feature=related

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Woop…woop…woop…woop

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Well, I ‘m sorry I got here late but might as well put in my 2 cents worth.

I REPORT is reporting history as it was taught to a majority of Americans( my opinion). My history books said that Lincoln brought about the Emancipation Proclamation, freed the slaves, did not want the Civil War or separation of the USA, and offered slaves the chance to return to Africa, the land from which they were taken. Some took the offer and started a country still viable in Africa.

Southern states demanded States Rights. They seceded when they could not secure them.

Slavery is an abomination but it was not uncommon in those days or in the last thousand years. It was an essential part of Southern economics. Cotton fields and rice patties needed labor. Just as some agricultural endeavors today need the labor of illegals, the South needed the slaves. And as josef has told us, there were some allegiances between the families of slave owners and their slaves that was not terminated even by war. Lincoln was gone by the end of the war and Reconstruction was a grinding misery placed upon white and black in the South. No one disputes that.

Do not take this as any approval of slavery. That is impossible. But there are many sides, many histories and many unknowns that can never be recorded and may change with each investigation.

Many people in this country must have had great respect for Lincoln. We would not have the marvelous Lincoln Memorial if they had thought differently. I wouldn’t see Lincoln on pennies every day. I would not see his marvelous yet simple speeches and letters.

Yes, the man was not perfect and neither was his administration. His General Sherman broke every law we have today about warfare such as burning the countryside throughout states as a military measure. I have never seen a monument to Sherman but Lincoln Memorial still stands.

I admire Lincoln for the many good thngs he did. Everytime I read the Gettysberg Addres as I enter the National Cemetery at Beaufort, I think again how much I appreciate him. The man had a heart.

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WASHINGTON — Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh warned in a TV interview of unprecedented “radical leadership” in the White House and called President Barack Obama a narcissist who is “immature, inexperienced, in over his head.” -Urinal

And?

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WASHINGTON – The typical family would be spared higher taxes from the House Democratic plan to overhaul health care, and their low-income neighbors could come out ahead….Their wealthy counterparts, however, face big tax increases that could eventually hit future generations of taxpayers who are less wealthy….

Obama promised during the presidential campaign that he would not increase taxes on couples making less than $250,000. However, the health care bill would impose new taxes on people who don’t buy qualified health insurance, including those making less than $250,000 a year….

Ooops

Obowo really doesn’t means what he says, or keeps any promises at all (except taxing the hell out of everyone), does he?

Liar in Chief.

Impeach Obama.

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Third-party candidates can add a real alternative for voters when they hold to conservative traditional constitutional values and become a choice not merely an echo. It should not take very long in these contests to determine the desires of most voters.

Now, in NY’s 23rd contest, we know beyond a shadow of doubt, Scozzafava was not a conservative Republican, just a liberal echo. Pro abortion, pro gay marriage, pro taxation, pro union open voting, pro increase in taxes and now one can add to her portfolio pro democrat Owens endorsement.

I remain amazed that several Republicans like Newt Gingrich supported Scozzafava until the very end. Rush Limbaugh was totally correct on his analysis of Scozzafava and her RINO label. He is also correct when he repeats on numerous occasions that for the Republicans to win they must abandon this moderate and bipartisan nonsense. We face a democrat, liberal, take no prisoners strategy. It’s time we proclaim our conservatism boldly and openly without apology or equivocation. Let us proudly defend,

A strong national defense,
An end to debt expansion and increased taxes.
A strong pro life and defense of traditional marriage act,
Continued proclamation of American freedom and individualism,
An effort to enforce the criminal laws already enacted,
An all out effort to promote the private sector and removal of unnecessary government regulations,
Greater promotion of individual freedom and small business entrepreneurship,
Promotion of a job creation and restoration program which minimizes corporate taxes and government controls,
Elimination of deceptive tax increases disguised as cap and trade legislation,
Elimination of unnecessary health reform proposals which can add trillions to the national debt long term,
The elimination of unconstitutional czars,
Elimination of illegal immigration and restoration of our borders,
Increased support for our military establishment and forces, and victory in military conflicts,
Renewed pride and support for the U.S. at home and abroad,

We need a renewal of conservative, constitutional principles of freedom and the pursuit of liberty and happiness. If we Republicans are to govern in the future it will only be with the consent of the American people, realizing we will make a life long commitment to conservatism. The Washington lobbyists must be replaced with the voices of average voters who want their country back. There can be no substitute for victory in 2010 and 2012.

Dr. Phillips

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Scozzafava certainly sound like an excellent choice for New Yorks 23rd.
I wish I was living there to vote for her. The Republican Party need more like her. Then, perhaps, they could re-establish creditability with the moderate voting public.

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It’s really too bad that the “Conservative’s” chased her out. But, then again, it will be another win for the Democrats. There is just no figuring the Republican mind. Seems that their thinking process is mostly knee jerk. Weird.

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So the blog is just randomly eating comments now eh?

OK, sfb, you win. Next time I want to counter such a substantive argument as Sorry, the Middle Ages are thataway. I’ll give it more than the half second it deserves. And that was quoting your thoughts in their entirety by the way.

Later!

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Cheney’s FBI Interview: 72 Instances Of “Can’t Recall”

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

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Sorry, the Middle Ages are thataway.

Yes, sfb, because freedom and liberty are just such quaint notions.

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Happy Full Beaver Moon Day everyone. As you might expect I’m off to the forest.

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Any woman that favors the card check for unions is both not a Republican, and not in favor of freedom, for what is free about allowing people to force other people to unionize through intimidation?

The GOP is far better off favoring candidates that are actually opposed to the insane fiscal policies of the current administration. It’s not hard to find fiscal conservatives, but this lady was definitely not one. Appealing to populism these days means appealing to those who think our current economic policies don’t pass a simple test of logic, because they outweigh those who think what Obama is doing makes any sense.

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because freedom and liberty are just such quaint notions.

Well, tossing out “freedom and liberty” in lieu of pragmatic counter proposals (and more importantly, claiming that your opposition is devoutly opposed to the very idea of freedom and liberty) is looking pretty quaint these days, yes. But somehow I don’t think that’s what you meant.

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Any woman that favors the card check for unions is both not a Republican, and not in favor of freedom

Card check /= forced membership, but thanks for playing.

and before you go on playing that tawdry anti-union card, I might remind you of this.

Americans Remain Broadly Supportive of Labor Unions

Americans have generally held a favorable view of unions for decades — with no less than 55% of Americans saying they approve of labor unions in Gallup polls conducted from 1936 to 2008.

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