In NY’s 23rd, conservatives bag a GOP heretic in Scozzafava
Well, the conservatives went hunting for a Republican heretic in upstate New York, and it looks as though they’ve bagged one. This will be the occasion for a lot of celebration on the GOP right, but regardless of what happens Tuesday, I don’t think it bodes well for the GOP nationally.
No party gets bigger by getting smaller.
From the Watertown Daily News:
Dede Scozzafava, the Republican and Independence parties candidate, announced Saturday that she is suspending her campaign for the 23rd Congressional District and releasing all her supporters.
The state Assemblywoman has not thrown her support to either Doug Hoffman, the Conservative Party candidate, or Bill Owens, the Democratic candidate.
“Today, I again seek to act for the good of our community,” Ms. Scozzafava wrote in a letter to friends and supporters. “It is increasingly clear that pressure is mounting on many of my supporters to shift their support. Consequently, I hereby release those individuals who have endorsed and supported my campaign to transfer their support as they see fit to do so. I am and have always been a proud Republican. It is my hope that with my actions today, my party will emerge stronger and our district and our nation can take an important step towards restoring the enduring strength and economic prosperity that has defined us for generations.”
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Jackie
October 31st, 2009
12:47 pm
The circular firing squad continues to claim victims.
stands for decibels
October 31st, 2009
12:58 pm
So essentially, you can’t be a republican and be pro-choice and/or pro-marriage equality?
Angry Black Man
October 31st, 2009
1:06 pm
So a conservative can be a Republican but a Republican can’t be a conservative?
James D
October 31st, 2009
1:10 pm
Too many quislings in the Republican party. I think her biggest ’sin’ was that she was for many of Obama’s fiscal policies, so what good is she as a Republican. Now there is a clear choice an Obama loving Dem and a Republican who will vote against Obama’s policies.
Nothing Is Free
October 31st, 2009
1:14 pm
josef
Every time I post this, the subject changes. It’s not Jay. It’s just bad timing. But take a read.
One of the things that bother me the most is the refusal of the media to examine the parallels that you just mentioned. We can’t even talk about it here, at least by mentioning the actual National Socialist Worker’s Party’ real name.
I sent this to you once before, but I never knew if you actually got it:
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goebmain.htm
It is the english translation of Goebbel’s speeches. Some of the most fascinating and disturbing reading that you will ever do.
From a speech called More Morality, Less Moralism. And is dated 1934:
“Peculiar people whose life is either behind them, or have no right to have one ahead of them, preach moralism in the name of our revolution. This moralism often has nothing in common with true morality. They proclaim ethical laws that might be appropriate for a nunnery, but are entirely out of place in a modern cultural state.”
This is his praising the Fuhrer as a speaker:
“There are two fundamentally different kinds of speakers: those who use reasoning, and those who speak from the heart. They reach two different sorts of people, those who understand through reason, and those who understand through the heart. Speakers who aim for the reason are generally found in parliaments, those who speak from the heart speak to the people.”
A single line from a speech called “The Morals of the Rich”:
“Likewise, a rich man with a car will never travel without a ticket on the subway. Aside from the fact that he could easily buy a ticket, he has a fancy car waiting in front of his fancy house.”
One line from a speech called “The Year 2000″
“One can also predict with a high degree of certainty that Europe will be a united continent in the year 2000.”
that one is worth reading right now.
Nothing Is Free
October 31st, 2009
1:26 pm
Jay
think of it this way:
Say you had a group of people that wanted some really stupid things, like say. rewarding women for having babies while they were not married or consistently demonizing anyone who didn’t think like them.
Say the facts, statistics, whatever showed the extreme folly of their beliefs.
So say those people changed their names from say . . . liberals to . . . I don’t know . . . maybe Progressives because the term liberal had developed such a bad stigma.
At the end of Bush’s administration, when the Democrats controlled Congress, he really did some stupid things. Things that those liberals wanted him to do and sure enough, that caused a huge downturn in our economy. (Well duh?)
Now Republicans isn’t such a good word, but a larger part of America calls it’s self Conservative than do Republican.
Sounds like an almost Democrat-ish thing to do, doesn’t it?
Whatever, I know what will happen in Virginia when a Democrat and a Republican go head to head. The Republican is destroying the Democrat. Corzine is only winning by a few points and the Republican vote is split in NJ. But now we have a Democrat running against a third party in NY State.
LOL!! Just Imagine: an Obama endorsed candidate that loses to an independent. There will be some real quakin’ in Congress.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Ate Up With Envy mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
October 31st, 2009
1:27 pm
bookman, have you read your own column?
Consequently, I hereby release those individuals who have endorsed and supported my campaign to transfer their support as they see fit to do so. I am and have always been a proud Republican. It is my hope that with my actions today, my party will emerge stronger………
Her own supporters were pressuring her, obviously so that they could unite behind the front runner.
This blog column is nothing but a hissy fit.
May there be many, many more of them.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Ate Up With Envy mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
October 31st, 2009
1:29 pm
Look a step further than this, I’ll bet the Republican party will throw their support fully behind Hoffman in an attempt to get him to drop the Conservative Party.
Stay with the girl that got you to the dance, Doug.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Ate Up With Envy mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
October 31st, 2009
1:31 pm
stands for decibels
October 31st, 2009
12:58 pm
So essentially, you can’t be a republican and be pro-choice and/or pro-marriage equality?
So essentially, you can’t be a democrat and say the words “abortion” or “gay marriage” anymore either.
At least Republicans can be honest without hurting their chances.
@@
October 31st, 2009
1:41 pm
Should Hoffman win this one, it’ll be particularly disappointing for Obama. He worked so hard to manipulate the 23rd with his offer of an appointment. And just like Obama, maybe the kooks over at Kos talk too much?
NY-23: The most liberal candidate leads (and it’s not the Dem)
And who is the dem’s candidate? Didn’t support the stimulus. Doesn’t support gay marriage. Doesn’t support the public option. The kookers compare him to Lieberman “an obnoxious Blue Dog.”
If the Democrat loses the race, we lose nothing — it was previously held by a Republican. If he wins the seat, we gain another obnoxious Blue Dog, undermining our caucus from within while adding just a single vote to our already dominant House majorities. Furthermore, the typical DC wankers will take this as “proof” that you need to run Lieberdems in such districts to win them, while ignoring the fragmented conservative opposition. Not much of an advantage at all. More than likely, a net disadvantage.
It gets a little confusing, don’t it? Sliced and diced by “special interest” groups.
@@
October 31st, 2009
1:54 pm
Oh good grief….yours not mine.
Taxpayer
October 31st, 2009
11:55 am
people like yourself,
@@, that is just so cute.
Why am I not surprised. Are you back to the tired but not true?
Go ahead. Infer bigot or racist. Holds no impact for me.
I’ll just “brush your dirt from my shoulder”. If Obama can do it, SO CAN I!!!!!!
Crimefighter
October 31st, 2009
2:09 pm
Ahem, let me set the record straight…people will NEVER EVER EVER VOTE for a Republican pretending to be a Democrats. People will vote for an ACTUAL DEMOCRAT. This why so many Republicans were LOSING. They were pretending to be a Democrat and thought they could win by writing off the 40% of voters who identify themselves as Conservative. The moderates only make up 36% of the voting population! For ANYONE to run as a Republican and throw 40% of the base – that being conservatives – under the bus…they’d have to capture at LEAST 80% of those calling themselves moderates to have a chance of winning. THAT will never happen anywhere. That is a foolish strategy DOOMED TO FAILURE. The 20% who identify themselves as liberal are gonna vote for the Democrat no matter what. Jay Brookman, you wouldn’t vote for a Republican anyway, so your advice is completely worthless. Don’t tell the GOP how to win elections, you’re feeding them advice that will guarantee more losses. Conservatives WIN elections and a bunch of you media types will wake up with your eyes bulging out of your heads and your jaws will be planted on the floor when the DNC loses big in 2010.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Ate Up With Envy mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
October 31st, 2009
2:10 pm
If the Democrat loses the race, we lose nothing — it was previously held by a Republican. If he wins the seat, we gain another obnoxious Blue Dog, undermining our caucus from within while adding just a single vote to our already dominant House majorities.
@@- Gee, I wonder why bookman doesn’t write a column about that^^?
hmmmmm
jconservative
October 31st, 2009
2:10 pm
The Republican tent just got smaller.
Now if the Republicans can get rid of the two senators from Maine the Democrats can have 62 votes in the Senate. The Republicans took the Democrats from 58 to 60 by ditching Chaffee & Spectre, with no help at all from the Democrats.
@@
October 31st, 2009
2:11 pm
I was a bit surprised when I saw jay’s “Iran now rejecting nuclear deal” which followed his “Ahmadinejad defense possible nuke deal” in which jay said:
The fact that Ahmadinejad feels it necessary to defend the pending deal in public suggests that he is at least serious about pursuing it. Why would he take the heat over a deal that he had no intention of concluding? As the Post reports, “If successful, the deal would likely be interpreted internationally as a goodwill sign by all involved parties and might lead to compromises over Iran’s nuclear program.”
But the situation is extremely complicated.
Not really. STRATFOR was all over Iran’s “installment plan” from the get-go.
That’s why STRATFOR demands the big bucks for their subscriptions.
And no, I’m not gonna say anything about the AJC’s dwindlings…
I will say this though…it doesn’t pay to be a dreamer.
Kamchak
October 31st, 2009
2:13 pm
Orly Taitz is revolting
When people loose their voice, when they are livid from the arrogance shown by the ruling elite, they simply revolt.
@@
October 31st, 2009
2:16 pm
@@- Gee, I wonder why bookman doesn’t write a column about that^^?
Hmmmm, indeed.
This is the second time I’ve pointed it out to him.
Mentioned it over at Kyle’s too. Not a single leftist had any response. Just ignored it as though it didn’t exist.
Nothing Is Free
October 31st, 2009
2:21 pm
@@
**Go ahead. Infer bigot or racist. Holds no impact for me.**
Are you talking about the same person who freely uses terms like tali-baptists? LOL!
It’s no wonder that it has no impact. That’s sort of like David Duke lecturing someone about being a bigot.
@@
October 31st, 2009
2:29 pm
NIF:
Taxpayer has some kinda problem with my efforts to stimulate the economy.
I’m damned if I do and damned if I don’t.
There’s no way to make these leftists happy. They’re doomed to their own feelings of persecution.
Normal
October 31st, 2009
2:37 pm
Im’ not ready to give up the music yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLBgmbXBOb8&feature=related
Normal
October 31st, 2009
2:37 pm
This ‘ne too…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwc5YSAc-7g
@@
October 31st, 2009
2:39 pm
Heyyyy, where’d my 2:21 go?
You’re such a puritan, jay.
No sweat, my pet.
Taxpayer
October 31st, 2009
2:42 pm
@@
October 31st, 2009
1:54 pm
Oh good grief….yours not mine.
Oh, pitiful deflection. “yours not mine”, are your words, not mine.
If you get it, quote it, if you got it, don’t. If that’s the silly game you play, then you could claim that you’ve never uttered an original word in your life. Then again, there IS stratfor. What else are you not sharing.
Why am I not surprised. Are you back to the tired but not true?
Go ahead. Infer bigot or racist. Holds no impact for me.
I’ll just “brush your dirt from my shoulder”. If Obama can do it, SO CAN I!!!!!!
And, that is even cuter than your other stuff. Perhaps, your latest cries of ‘witch’ are meant to hide, via your call to racism/bigot diversion, an even darker side than you’ve revealed to date. hehehe. I mean, Ewwwww.
Taxpayer
October 31st, 2009
2:50 pm
And, NIF knows David Duke! Ewww. Then again, NIF also talks a lot about Hitler’s Germany. Now, what should we infer from that, hmmmm?
Normal
October 31st, 2009
2:59 pm
Have the Country Stations started playing “The Dixie Chicks” again?
jt
October 31st, 2009
3:03 pm
The Obama-Hugging Charlie Crist should take note.
DITTO NEWT. Go peddle your big governemnt misery somewhere else.
You too Isackson.
Taxpayer
October 31st, 2009
3:07 pm
I like the Dixie Chicks.
Taxpayer
October 31st, 2009
3:16 pm
Mmmmm! My bread is ready. Navel pondering time — butter or margarine. Check y’all later.
Gov Option Done Deal!
October 31st, 2009
3:20 pm
The extremist whackjobs just give Pelosi another vote.
In typically stupid fashion Repubos are trying to call the H1N1 vaccine rollout Obama’s Katrina. All the while every Repuboputzo website, and their own Dr. Jim Wooten are urging people not to get vaccinated.
If any unvaccinated Repuboputzos die, the name for it is SUICIDE and murder of their children.
At this moment the largest county in Georgia, Fulton, with 1.2 million people has used 13% of their 5300 Medimmune nasal mist doses. That calculates out to 8 clinics over 23 days dispensing 3.8 vaccines per day. Pathetically stupid people are refusing the vaccine.
If there is mutation you will see hospitals overwhelmed, and respirator rationing something none of you have seen in your lives.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Ate Up With Envy mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
October 31st, 2009
3:23 pm
Meanwhile, Larry David is now doing televised NEA exhibits on his HBO show “Curb Your Enthusiasm.” Christians are said to be “angry” at him because of an episode in which, after he accidentally sprays his urine on a picture of Jesus, his assistant mistakes the droplets for tears and calls in her mother to witness the miracle of Christ weeping. Ha-ha! Oh, those brave transgressive artists! Of course, Christians aren’t “angry” in the sense that two U.S. residents arrested last week are. The pair – one an American citizen, the other Canadian – were so “angry” about the Muhammad cartoons published in the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten that they hatched a plot to kill the artist and his editor. As many commentators pointed out, Mr. David’s splashy stunt is a dreary provocation: It’s easy to be provocative with people who can’t be provoked. If he were to start urinating in a more Mecca-ly direction, he’d find an entirely more motivated crowd waiting for him at the stage door.-Mark Steyn
They’d rather bow up on the little old lady in the church pew, brave souls that they are.
Gov Option Done Deal!
October 31st, 2009
3:25 pm
The Christian Science Monitor on NY23:
It’s also entirely possible the Democrat, lawyer Bill Owens, could eke out a victory amid the Republican infighting. He would be the first Democrat to win that district in 140 years.
All Our Base Are Done Belong To Us! Go Extremist base. You lose elections like nobody else. But also
Gov Option Done Deal!
October 31st, 2009
3:26 pm
Larry David should be pissing on Rush and We Fox up the news.
GEORGE CONSERVATIVE
October 31st, 2009
3:38 pm
THIS BROAD WAS A RHINO IN LOOKS AND POSITIONS.
NY SHOULD RECRUIT SARAH PALIN TO GET THE STATE OUT OF THE GUTTER!!!
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Ate Up With Envy mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
October 31st, 2009
3:39 pm
HughHewitt: Okay, let’s turn to abroad. Hillary Clinton went to Pakistan yesterday, and the crazy fanatics in that country used the occasion to blow up a hundred women. They actually killed a hundred women, blew up many, many more. The Taliban attacked the Kabul UN station, killed eleven yesterday, Mark Steyn, and still the President dithers. What do you think he’s waiting for? They’re not going to make peace with us.
Code Pinko to tell him what to do?
~~~~~
Mad Harris- I got Hoffman, obviously you are an Owens shill. The wager, starting next Wednesday, should the final tally be known, er, all of ACORN’s fake votes have been “counted,” whoever’s candidate loses shall not post any comments for 7 days.
Deal?
danjonglee
October 31st, 2009
3:40 pm
Jay has a new co worker…….
josef nix
October 31st, 2009
3:42 pm
Well, hello…got the candy bagged, Katrina’s down at the sidewalk, the jack o’lantern’s carved and out on the verandah and got some white sheets hanging from the trees in honor of some of our trailer park bashers hereabouts, their ghostly, heads stuffed with the AJC, rain seems to be slacking off and all seems ready for the little b*stids!
NIF–got your post here and below. Folks really should read that and pay attention…
THIS THREAD…
Coming soon to a provencial backwater near you. Stay tuned for further details….
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Ate Up With Envy mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
October 31st, 2009
3:44 pm
Two-ply bathroom tissue, according to Allen Hershkowitz of the Natural Resources Defense Council, “is the Hummer of the paper industry.”-MarkSteyn
Little nasty ass, hahaha.
ew
josef nix
October 31st, 2009
3:45 pm
Taxpayer
“Then again, NIF also talks a lot about Hitler’s Germany. Now, what should we infer from that, hmmmm?”
I’d infer he knows a fascist when he sees one. Burnt any good books lately?
@@
October 31st, 2009
3:45 pm
Taxpayer:
Perhaps, your latest cries of ‘witch’ are meant to hide, via your call to racism/bigot diversion, an even darker side than you’ve revealed to date. hehehe.
I’m a shady character, yessiree.
I have an olive complexion December thru May. Come May, I”m moving into the brown range. By August, I’m darker than Obama.
So when it comes to me, @@, are you racist/bigoted only between the months of December thru May or is it 12 months out of the year?
Funny…I don’t recall using the word ‘witch’ but if the foo shiites as AmVet would say.
Gov Option Done Deal!
October 31st, 2009
3:45 pm
Just like in the real Senate, FlashForward’s senators will, even in the face of an unprecedented national crisis, just hold contentious hearings and bitch about where all the money’s going, all the while approving trillions in military spending that they barely keep track of.
Gov Option Done Deal!
October 31st, 2009
3:46 pm
ah sure do see a lot of the pronoun “I” in ole aa’s posts.
josef nix
October 31st, 2009
3:49 pm
Normal–
Love the Dixie Chicks and Toby, too. He’s a registered, dues paying Democrat, you know!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q85rPq1u9sc
@@
October 31st, 2009
3:51 pm
ChattyWick:
And I see a lot of swine in your posts.
DoggoneGA
October 31st, 2009
3:53 pm
“THIS BROAD WAS A RHINO IN LOOKS AND POSITIONS”
I wonder where she goes to sharpen her horns?
@@
October 31st, 2009
3:58 pm
Newsom Ends Bid for California Governor.
Oddly enough I think Jerry Brown has come a long way since the far-left days of his youth.
We shall see.
josef nix
October 31st, 2009
3:59 pm
@@
“…darker than Obama…” When he got the Nobel, Unmentionable who bronzes up nicely in the summer, says, “..hey, where’s mine? I’m more colored than he is!”
josef nix
October 31st, 2009
4:03 pm
Doggone–
Well, rhino horn is an aphrodisiac.
And Jerry Brown? When the Dem party left him, they lost their moorings…
@@
October 31st, 2009
4:09 pm
Shades of Obama!
Newsom’s colleagues at City Hall were surprised by Friday’s news. Some said his constant traveling had left the city without a captain – a big problem as the city copes with its worst financial outlook since the Great Depression.
Newsom based his entire platform for governor on his track record in San Francisco, and some of his colleagues said he often painted the city’s fortunes as rosier than they really are so he could contrast them with Sacramento. Throughout the budget battle of the spring and summer, Newsom repeatedly scolded anybody who used the word “crisis.”
Supervisor John Avalos, chair of the board’s budget committee, said, “I’m hoping this could be a good thing for the city – that we’ll have a mayor who is more focused on what needs to get done and can turn his vision into practice.”
Avalos added that nobody in his district, the Excelsior, has seen the mayor for months – and that residents were especially frustrated the mayor didn’t respond or visit the neighborhood after a recent deadly stabbing there.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2009/10/31/MN7S1AD82T.DTL#ixzz0VYbMk4SS
josef:
You’re Unmentionable sounds like a man after my own heart.
josef nix
October 31st, 2009
4:11 pm
@@
“You’re Unmentionable sounds like a man after my own heart.”
I’ve gotten into arguments with straight women before over…
I think you’d like him, though, he knows how to play dumb and handsome!
Jackie
October 31st, 2009
4:12 pm
If the Conservative Party wins in the 23rd of NY, then it would further erode the Republican Party.
I believe most people, even those in the South, are not supportive of the Conservative Party’s platform. Pollsters attribute 20% of the voting population to Republican/Conservative positions.
It appears that have a l-o-n-g way to go to be deemed credible. It leads one to believe that many of the current crop of Republicans in the House and Senate may move to the Conservative Party.
Wonder if they will expose ideas like those of Ann Coulter or Dick Armey. Better yet, like Dick “I can’t recall” Cheney.