Iran now rejecting nuclear deal
Iran is insisting on changes to a proposed deal regarding its nuclear fuel, and it’s pretty clear that those changes will be unacceptable to the rest of the world. “It’s a deal breaker,” Jacqueline Shire of the Institute for Science and International Security told ABC News. “It’s no dice if they want to do an installment plan.”
It’s possible that further discussion can convince Iran to accept the provisions it now seeks to change. But it’s far more likely that at the end of the process, no deal will be reached and the West will have to look to other alternatives.
Unfortunately, it’s also true that if Iran is sufficiently determined to acquire the bomb, nothing short of an outright invasion will prevent it from doing so. Every assessment I’ve seen says that an air assault on Iran’s nuclear infrastructure would at best delay its program, not end it. Furthermore, that assault itself would harden Iran’s conviction that it needs the bomb to discourage outside meddling.
There are no easy solutions to some problems. And to a few problems, there are no solutions at all, easy or otherwise.
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Truth
October 30th, 2009
10:53 am
there are solutions, but they definately are not easy!
jt
October 30th, 2009
11:03 am
“And to a few problems, there are no solutions at all, easy or otherwise.”
Balderdash!
Turd Ferguson
October 30th, 2009
11:03 am
No surprise here. Iran will chart its own course and everyone else be D a m n e d.
If I recall my geography correctly the only thing standing between Israel and Iran is Jordan, Syria, Saudia Arabia, Iraq…none of which offer any resistance to a “fly-over”.
“Its gettin hot in here, Is-ra-els dropping bombs”
Turd Ferguson
October 30th, 2009
11:12 am
What we need here is a good ole fashioned speech!! Say one from our current Campaigner n Chief. Ya! Then, kinda like the icing on the cake, Obobo, Boner, Sting and Sean Penn could visit the UN, hold hands and simg a couple verses of Kum By Ya!!
That would teach those Iranians.
Oilie North
October 30th, 2009
11:25 am
I will solve this problem by selling them bombs. The proceeds will save the American economy and I will be a hero again just like when Reagan and I traded bombs for the hostages.
I am the best thing that ever happened to America!
USinUK
October 30th, 2009
11:25 am
TF –
well, I kinda like U2 and Sting, but a few minutes of Yoko Ono and I’d pretty much surrender and give you anything you wanted.
just sayin.
booger
October 30th, 2009
11:25 am
If Obama dithers long enough Isreal will take care of the problem. We may not like the worldwide result but at least Obama can say it wasn’t my fault.
GEORGE CONSERVATIVE
October 30th, 2009
11:26 am
I CAN FIX THIS:
BOMB BOMB BOMB
BOMB BOMB IRAN!!!
GEORGE CONSERVATIVE
October 30th, 2009
11:29 am
I’D MUCH PREFER A SPEECH BY ACADEMY AWARD WINNER JON VOIGHT OR CONSERVATIVE LEADERS BECK AND LIMBAUGH. WE NEED TO HEAR EVEN MORE FORM THERE REASSURING VOICES.
MAYBE TED NUGGENT COULD MAKE A SPEECH. HE’S MUCH BETTER THAN STING!!!
Nothing Is Free
October 30th, 2009
11:30 am
Marsh
From your link:
In 2006, Senator Lieberman was elected to a fourth term as an Independent,
Now who Gotcha/d who?
Nothing Is Free
October 30th, 2009
11:31 am
More failed Obama foreign policy.
But there is that GDP.
Bosch
October 30th, 2009
11:33 am
NIF@ 11:17 –
“Bosch
Actually you can take it and stick it where the sun doesn’t shine, fascist.”
Nothing Is Free
October 29th, 2009
4:36 pm
“Do you realize that when you need to resort to your asinine, adolescent little attempts at insults, it just says that you have no argument and this is the best you can do?
No. I didn’t think so.”
Bosch
October 30th, 2009
11:34 am
USinUK,
“but a few minutes of Yoko Ono and I’d pretty much surrender and give you anything you wanted.”
Fer rizzle.
Nothing Is Free
October 30th, 2009
11:34 am
Hey Ollie
It’s not a good day for the demkrats so you better dig up more crap on the Republicans.
Anything about Lincoln?
Nothing Is Free
October 30th, 2009
11:37 am
Bosch
I’m glad you took the time. LOL!!
Proves nothing other than how pathetic your attempts are becoming. How about getting your little emotions under control. Go set in the corner and think about who you have voted for.
Turd Ferguson
October 30th, 2009
11:38 am
Stop teasing me USK or Im gonna break out my Yoko Anthology Collection.
Normal
October 30th, 2009
11:39 am
Let them have the bomb. Sometimes like a child playing with fire, you just have to let him get burned to teach him a lesson.
Iran will learn that if you get what you wish for, you might not like it. If they ever supposed that they could bomb Isreal and get away with it, they would be wrong and what’s more is they know it. Isreal would turn them into stained glass.
Look at North Korea, have they nuced anyone yet?
If they get the bomb they will learn what a Pandora’s Box they have…and they won’t have the guts to use it.
They can be contained. Just let them know how many warheads will be pointed at them from this time on.
USinUK
October 30th, 2009
11:40 am
TF –
haha … talk about a mood killer … nothing less attractive than bleeding from the ears …
Marsh
October 30th, 2009
11:41 am
All hope is not lost.
USinUK
October 30th, 2009
11:42 am
Bosch –
it looks like someone didn’t get their ritilin today …
Kamchak
October 30th, 2009
11:42 am
Bosch 11:33
More on that subject.
Nothing Is Free
October 30th, 2009
11:43 am
Normal
I disagree. North Korea’s government is not based on a 12th century suicide cult. Iran’s leaders would consider it an honor to sacrifice their country if it means that they wiped Israel off the planet.
I’m sure the Iranian people would not go for that, but the leaders in Iran are far on the other side of crazy.
Oilie North
October 30th, 2009
11:43 am
That’s Lieutenant Kernal Oilie North to you, Ms. Nothing is Free.
Marsh
October 30th, 2009
11:44 am
NIF @ 11:30,
Child, go take a nap and leave the blogging to the grownups. You can’t even read yet.
Shawny
October 30th, 2009
11:46 am
unfortunately, letting them have the bomb does burn, but it wouldn’t be them that get burned.
Nothing Is Free
October 30th, 2009
11:46 am
Ollie
Don’t take it so hard. After 2012, you can complain abut the party that is in power.
Marsh
Lieberman is an independent. K?
Call it like it is.
October 30th, 2009
11:46 am
Okay, a story that states NOTHING. Jay I am used to this junk from Cindy Lou, but most of the time you add a little more meat to the subject. Come on put your skills to the test, you love Obama, tell us what “you” think he will do. If Bush was still the man, you would damn him no matter what he did. What will the all mighty do on this?
As far as air assault doing nothing? What? Dude read your own paper, The AJC was just talking about how America is in the process of making a bomb right now that will enter their little bunker and turn it into a glass factory. You don’t think that will deter them? When Regan bomb Libya, didnt hear too much from them did you?
Come on tell us what you think the “man” will do. Were all waiting……
Bosch
October 30th, 2009
11:47 am
Kamchak,
Wow.
USinUK,
“it looks like someone didn’t get their ritilin today …”
Oh thanks for reminding me!!
Nothing Is Free
October 30th, 2009
11:48 am
Ollie
BTW. Did you mean to insult me by the Ms? So you consider calling someone a woman as being an insult?
Yet another lib that just can’t decide who to hate.
Taxpayer
October 30th, 2009
11:50 am
Jay! You underestimate the GOP. There’s always room for a bigger and better bomb.
Marsh
October 30th, 2009
11:50 am
NIF,
And quit making up stories about your having served in the military. What an imagination you have! When you grow up, you should use it for the good of the world.
Normal
October 30th, 2009
11:51 am
NIF, their Clergy is not that stupid. When you have the power and all of its perks, you do not want to commit suicide. You want to live and enjoy your power. You let the underlings jump and threaten but you never allow the button to be pushed.
Nothing Is Free
October 30th, 2009
11:52 am
Enter your comments here
Bosch
October 30th, 2009
11:53 am
Normal,
That’s been my position for ever on nuclear weapons.
Nothing Is Free
October 30th, 2009
11:53 am
Marsh
And yet another day of this. OK I’lll play..
And you better quit stomping kittens.
Jimmy Carter
October 30th, 2009
11:56 am
Maybe we could send Barry over there and he could work his “olympic magic” on Iran.
Oilie North
October 30th, 2009
11:57 am
NiF,
You would prefer the title “Little Lady-Man”?
Jim Bomb Walton
October 30th, 2009
11:57 am
Taxpayer
October 30th, 2009
11:50 am
The biggest bomb we have in this country is the guy occupying the white house. Which campaign promises has he kept?
jt
October 30th, 2009
11:57 am
Jay Bookman-
I just heard about Neal Boortz starting to write for the AJC. That is funny considering how Neal has constantly slammed your paper for years.
Now is the time sir to get in touch with your inner Paul Theroiux.
You can do him better.
I have connections in S. Africa AND Somalia. I know the route. Think about it. The first AJC journalist in Somalia. (human interest, politics, fishing, etc…..) . No matter what you hear, it is not that dangerous. And it would only take the minimum of per diem checks. We can make Paul T. jealous.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much room.
Let me know.
Jackie
October 30th, 2009
11:58 am
If anyone bombs Iran, they choke off the Straits of Hormuz, where 60% of the world’s oil traverses. Wonder how the past recession would look and feel compared to what it would be like with that much of the world’s energy taken off the market?
The question should be asked, if and when Iran does acquire a nuclear weapon, what are they going to do with it?
Does anyone really believe they would attack another country, knowing they would risk TOTAL annihilation? Don’t think they are that stupid!!!!
Jimmy Carter
October 30th, 2009
11:59 am
USinUK
October 30th, 2009
11:25 am
A few minutes? You’re one tough bird. Seconds would take me down.
AmVet
October 30th, 2009
12:03 pm
It’s no Lee Greenwood…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRB6sL-Gjfc
stands for decibels
October 30th, 2009
12:03 pm
I will make this simple for one and all. Obviously, Americans have been browbeaten into believing, for several decades now, that Iran’s leaders are uniquely crazy and this informs every single phase of negotiations we have with them. Even though our actual leaders know better than this, they have to go home with information that would displease those who will go to their graves believing that Iran’s leaders are uniquely crazy.
Like Jay says, some problems don’t have solutions.
moving along…
haha … talk about a mood killer … nothing less attractive than bleeding from the ears …
Nude volleyball with Newt Gingrich, Jonah Goldberg and Rush Limbaugh, perhaps?
Nothing Is Free
October 30th, 2009
12:03 pm
Normal
Old men that don’t have that long to live anyway I don’t think so. Their religion is not a facade. They actually believe that martyred deaths give great rewards in the afterlife. I couldn’t imagine a more worthy goal to them then to wipe out Israel.
Whatever happens, I’m afraid that we will live to see it. All implications are saying that they will be nuclear by the end of next year. You may be right and they may use it to just terrorize the region. Nukes are the ultimate Ace in the hole.
One thing is for certain: they are no bigger fans of Obama than they were of Bush. In fact, he is probably less favorably regarded. Bush was a Christian, Obama was born to a Muslim father and then converted to Christianity, i.e. he turned his back on Islam.
Whatever happens, it’s probably not going to be good.
USinUK
October 30th, 2009
12:05 pm
not jimmeh –
11:59 – deaf in one ear from the last time I heard Yoko.
Nothing Is Free
October 30th, 2009
12:06 pm
Ollie
**You would prefer the title “Little Lady-Man”?**
Whatever, Pal. What some anonymous dolt calls me on a left leaning forum is hardly going to change my life.
Dusty
October 30th, 2009
12:06 pm
Aww, Jay went and jumped to Iran just as I was getting to cheesy grits. Never fails. He’ll be trying to indict Palin (AGAIN) before I get back. I think Jay was raised on Baked Alaska (which is better than shrimpy grits Right, bosch?)
Oh well, later…
Paul
October 30th, 2009
12:07 pm
When I heard of the initial resistance and A’s speech a couple days ago, I’d hoped it was playing to the domestic audience, plus looking for a little wiggle room to save face. They’re quite the manhood-testosterone-inferiority complex-religious guys over there. Best to leave them a way out and to have a few things that don’t matter.
Now this. You are correct, Jay. There are no good alternatives and plenty with unintended consequences. And to paraphrase the remark that led the Left to so ridicule SecDef Rumsfeld “There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don’t know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don’t know we don’t know.”
(Which are all standard statements in those war games the Pentagon does).
There’s a lot here we know we don’t know. And it’s all bad. We may be reduced to picking the least worst option.
Sometimes I wonder why people run for the presidency.
Kamchak
October 30th, 2009
12:08 pm
The biggest bomb we have in this country is the guy occupying the white house. Which campaign promises has he kept?
Another day, another posting of this site.
Kudos to dB.
jconservative
October 30th, 2009
12:08 pm
We cannot allow Iran get the bomb. We should just go ahead & bomb them off the face of the earth like we did Israel, India, Pakistan & North Korea when they got the bomb.