Recession’s technically over, even if it doesn’t feel that way

Well, nobody’s throwing a tickertape parade, but ….

(Bloomberg) The U.S. economy grew in the third quarter for the first time in more than a year, propelled by stimulus-driven gains in consumer spending and home building.

The world’s largest economy expanded at a 3.5 percent pace from July through September, exceeding the median estimate of economists surveyed by Bloomberg News, after shrinking the previous four quarters, figures from the Commerce Department showed today in Washington. Household purchases climbed 3.4 percent, the most in more than two years….

“A lot of this is thanks to government support,” Kathleen Stephansen, chief economist at Aladdin Capital Holdings LLC in Stamford, Connecticut, said in an interview on Bloomberg Television. “The consumer, in fact private demand in general, is not ready yet to pick up the growth baton from the government.”

It doesn’t mean the worst is over. There’s an awful lot of pain out there, and some of it will never go away. Jobs lost, businesses lost, careers lost, in some cases marriages and even lives lost. But at some point things stop getting worse and start getting better, and maybe we’re at that point.

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Normal

October 29th, 2009
12:02 pm

Well, I still have a job. That’s better

jt

October 29th, 2009
12:06 pm

“But at some point things stop getting worse and start getting better, and maybe we’re at that point.”

Not until 2012, when the silent majority of producers finally smote the statist lawyer/politicians class down with prejudice.

USinUK

October 29th, 2009
12:10 pm

jt –

“Not until 2012, when the silent majority of producers finally smote the statist lawyer/politicians class down with prejudice”

you keep holding on to that dream … cuz it isn’t going to happen …

GoingBroke

October 29th, 2009
12:11 pm

Here is to the hope that we have already hit rock bottom.. :-)

Mrs. Godzilla

October 29th, 2009
12:13 pm

It never really got hard for us, but for those who have experienced the hardships…I hope things get better.

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
12:14 pm

As I stated some time back the recession is over for everyone but the unemployed. I’d like to amend that to include government tax collectors. The reductions are so dramatic it makes me wonder if compliance has lapsed, as well.

jt

October 29th, 2009
12:14 pm

With EXTREME prejudice.

And some Ex Post Facto convictions thrown in.

I Report :-) You Whine :-( Ate Up With Envy mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

October 29th, 2009
12:14 pm

All we need is a couple more cash for clunkers to keep this going.

How’s that national debt looking?

This is nothing to be comforted by.

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
12:15 pm

jt

October 29th, 2009
12:06 pm

We’re showing we don’t need you to succeed. Deal with it.

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
12:17 pm

I Report :-) You Whine :-( Ate Up With Envy mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

October 29th, 2009
12:14 pm

No, a continued decline would have comforted you in your smugness.

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
12:19 pm

USinUK

October 29th, 2009
12:10 pm

They were dreaming during the nightmare, too!

USinUK

October 29th, 2009
12:20 pm

TnG –

“They were dreaming during the nightmare, too!”

all I know is that my parents always taught me to stay away from drugs … after seeing their delusions, I understand why …

I Report :-) You Whine :-( Ate Up With Envy mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

October 29th, 2009
12:21 pm

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — A total of 690,000 new vehicles were sold under the Cash for Clunkers program last summer, but only 125,000 of those were vehicles that would not have been sold anyway, according to an analysis released Wednesday by the automotive Web site Edmunds.com.

Still, auto sales contributed heavily to the economy’s expansion in the third quarter, adding 1.7 percentage points to the nation’s gross domestic product growth.

Add to that the $8000 dollar first time home buyer tax credit and it is no wonder the world is fleeing from the dollar.

We have a huge crash coming that will make this look like nirvana.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

October 29th, 2009
12:22 pm

Well, howdy everybody, it’s me taking a break from lugging in all that beer you drunks pour down your gullets.

I knowed in my heart that what My President done before he left office would sooner or later turn the economy around. In spite of what this Kenyan’s been doing to try to put it right down the tubes. This stimulus didn’t have nothing to do with it. It’s Trickle Down you’re seeing in these good numbers. The rich folk run out of places to store all that money they got from My President’s tax cuts and decided to go ahead and spend some of it. Besides, the price of bulldozers to pile the stuff up done shot thru the roof.

And don’t let them fool you. There’s plenty of jobs out there. Just in the past couple days I saw notices for fry cooks at McDonalds and greeters at WalMart. If you unemployed bums would get off of your duff and go apply for one of these jobs, you might could work your way up to handling a drive-thru window at Mickey D’s or running a cash register at WalMart. But you got to be ready to start at the bottom first.

Anyway, it’s too bad some of you voted for this Obama. He’ll slow things up considerable. But sooner or later Trickle Down will put us all in high cotton. And I don’t mean to be accused of being a Bigot for using that term.

Anyhow, get off of the dole and get out there and get one of them jobs. And have a good p.m. everybody.

jt

October 29th, 2009
12:24 pm

President Obama’s hand is hovering over a potential newspaper bailout.

It is all with a grain of salt.

Normal

October 29th, 2009
12:27 pm

Mrs. Godzilla

October 29th, 2009
12:13 pm

My sentiments, exactly.

Mrs. Godzilla

October 29th, 2009
12:31 pm

Normal

I think you are a fine human being!

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
12:34 pm

I Report :-) You Whine :-( Ate Up With Envy mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

October 29th, 2009
12:21 pm

The recovery has begun. Deal with it. Weren’t the last 8 miserable years your Nirvana?

The dollar? There are pros and cons for a strong or weak dollar, and I’m sure you know them better than I. Suffice to say speculators speculate.

Mrs. Godzilla

October 29th, 2009
12:34 pm

Oh and Normal

Saw your post on the previous thread about being an escort.
Thank you for your service.

and Thank God that same year my Mr. G came home on his own two feet…..

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
12:35 pm

jt

October 29th, 2009
12:24 pm

This blog and ajc.com are this newspapers bailout.

Doggone/GA

October 29th, 2009
12:36 pm

“smote”

smote is past tense. So they’ve already smitten them, but not until 2012?

Turd Ferguson

October 29th, 2009
12:37 pm

As predicted Obobo is/was wrong…AGAIN!! The Campaigner Idiot Chief just keeps hitting foul balls…lol.

Clunkers: Taxpayers paid $24,000 per car
http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/28/autos/clunkers_analysis/index.htm

Mrs. Godzilla

October 29th, 2009
12:37 pm

EXTREEEEEEEME SMOTE…..

USinUK

October 29th, 2009
12:38 pm

I’m no statistician, so if there actually IS someone who can take a look at this and tell me why it doesn’t look like Edmunds just pulled these numbers out of their backside, I’d like to know …

http://www.edmunds.com/help/about/press/159446/article.html

Doggone/GA

October 29th, 2009
12:39 pm

“EXTREEEEEEEME SMOTE…..”

Now if I can just work out that I’ve won the lottery, but not until 2012…I’ll be sittin’ in hog heaven!

Nothing Is Free

October 29th, 2009
12:40 pm

GDP . . . Good. Not like under the Republicans, not even close, but good considering what we have in Washington.
Unemployment . . . Horrible
National Debt . . . Horrible
Deficit . . . Horrible
Afghanistan . . . Horrible
Iraq . . . More and more violence
Iran . . . Conning the UN and Obozo
Pakistan . . . Horrible
Taxes . . . Horrible
Government intervention into operations in private companies . . . fascist
Making decisions about American soldiers’ lives . . . Pathetic
Value of the dollar . . . gone
Trust in our government . . . horrible
Campaign Promises kept about “openness” . . . a complete and total lie
Condition of minorities in America . . . horrible
Civil unrest in America . . getting worse
Freedom of the press . . under constant attack by the White House
freedom of speech . . . under constant attack by the White House
Cash for clunkers . . . Horribly managed and horrible results: $24,000 per car, and most would have ben sold anyway
Stock Market . . . still hovering around 10,000 after it had been almost 17,000 in 2006 . . . unstable.
White House accepting responsibility . . (I just threw up a little in my mouth there)
America’s respect by our allies . . . gone
Fear of America by our enemies . . . gone
Americans’ outlook . . . horrible.

So congrats for the GDP.

It’s a new day!!!!

Mrs. Godzilla

October 29th, 2009
12:43 pm

NIF….pitiable

GoingBroke

October 29th, 2009
12:45 pm

I think I am a little numb to it at this point.. I am too fearful to think ahead. Items still on the agenda that have yet to be dealt with as people are so blinded by this one topic -

- Social Security is broke.. way beyond broke.. Unions are pushing for a national pension plan just like the federal employees have.

- Medicare / Medicaid – broke.. How are we paying for this?

- Medical Care – What are people going to do when doctors don’t accept the watered down payments of the Gov’t plan.

FYI.. Obama and EVERYONE one who signs this bill is an ABSOLUTE liar.. Yet.. for some reason.. they will get the pass..

Doggone/GA

October 29th, 2009
12:46 pm

“NIF….pitiable”

Some delusions are simply untreatable.

Nothing Is Free

October 29th, 2009
12:49 pm

Mrs. Godzilla

**pitiable**

Yes it is. But it will improve after the elections next year.

Doggone/GA

October 29th, 2009
12:50 pm

“- Social Security is broke.. way beyond broke.. Unions are pushing for a national pension plan just like the federal employees have.”

I want to live in the world where MY finances are broke, like SS. Where a SURPLUS is considered “broke”

“- Medicare / Medicaid – broke.. How are we paying for this?”

Taxes

“- Medical Care – What are people going to do when doctors don’t accept the watered down payments of the Gov’t plan.”

What crystal ball are you using that PROVES the payments will be “watered down”? Or do you mean “watered down” as in negotiated payments, like insurance companies use NOW.

Kamchak

October 29th, 2009
12:50 pm

Stock Market . . . still hovering around 10,000 after it had been almost 17,000 in 2006 . . . unstable.

Not even close.

Started 2006 around 11,000, ended 2006 around12,750.

Nothing Is Free

October 29th, 2009
12:50 pm

Doggone/GA

LOL!!

So what did I write that was a delusion?

AmVet

October 29th, 2009
12:51 pm

The damage has been done.

The criminals on Wall Street walked off with trillions of dollars that were not theirs.

And the unchecked, unwatched “free market” finally showed it’s true colors.

And the conned want even LESS cops on the federal beat keeping an eye on them.

They want the free market to ‘police itself” even AFTER this corporate destruction of capitalism.

Why are they so anti-law and order?

Why do the want amnesty for these criminals?

Why do they want this devastating corporate crime wave to continue?

Why do they no longer believe in the rule of law?

Why do they refuse to learn? Or see what really happened?

Why are they so f_cking stupid and unethcial?

I doubt even they know…

Nothing Is Free

October 29th, 2009
12:53 pm

Kamchak

Well there is that. LOL!!! TIME TO CELEBRATE!!!!!

Doggone/GA

October 29th, 2009
12:55 pm

“So what did I write that was a delusion?”

People who suffer from delusions think everyone is insane, except themselves.

Nothing Is Free

October 29th, 2009
12:59 pm

Doggone/GA

Not everyone. Just people who still support Obozo after he has screwed up everything he has touched. There’s a lot of sane people out there. Just not that many on here.

Normal

October 29th, 2009
1:00 pm

Mrs. Godzilla

October 29th, 2009
12:31 pm

Mrs G. A humble thank you and I’m glad Mr G came home well. Tell hime Welcome home” for me, please.

Mrs. Godzilla

October 29th, 2009
1:01 pm

Normal

Body well…..Tet changed him.

Nothing Is Free

October 29th, 2009
1:04 pm

AmVet

Yep. It’s all about those eeeeeeevil rich people. Had nothing to do with sub prime mortgages. Somebody get a rope!!!

USinUK

October 29th, 2009
1:07 pm

“Yep. It’s all about those eeeeeeevil poor people. Had nothing to do with derivatives taking a bad situation and blowing it out of all proportion. Somebody get a rope!!!”

there. fyt.

mike

October 29th, 2009
1:11 pm

And we’re just supposed to trust these Government “reports”?

How can they say we’re out of a recession when home foreclosures are surging still (see http://www.foreclosure.com) and auto repossessions are skyrocketing (see http://www.repofinder.com)?

I’ll trust my magic 8 ball over Government “reports”.

Nothing Is Free

October 29th, 2009
1:12 pm

USinUK

So there was more than one single reason? You should talk to AmVet. He will straighten you out.

danjonglee

October 29th, 2009
1:12 pm

With the passage of single payer health care, we will see new taxes on the middle class…
With the passage of Cap n Trade, additional imbedded taxes for everyone… It will be awhile before people feel good again….

Marsh

October 29th, 2009
1:13 pm

No worries.

Shrub/Republican trickle down tax cuts for the rich are still in effect.

We should all see that trickle down any day now.

If, when the “trickle” reaches you, it looks and smells like urine…that’s because it is!

Normal

October 29th, 2009
1:13 pm

Mrs. Godzilla

October 29th, 2009
1:01 pm

Yes Ma’am,
Tet had a 100% casuality rate. The boy Normal died 17 days before his 21st birthday. This Normal is all that’s left. May the Soldier’s God bless Mr. G.

Brad Steel

October 29th, 2009
1:15 pm

There is still lots of consumer and business deleveraging to be done. Money will be spent to pay down debts of the boom. The economic growth is due to stimulus spending. After the stimulus spending has dried up, the anemic growth will commence again.

Too bad the delusional supply-siders and no-government-spending idealogues will force the austerity hand.

Hard Right Hook

October 29th, 2009
1:15 pm

“Why are they so anti-law and order?

Why do the want amnesty for these criminals?

Why do they want this devastating corporate crime wave to continue?”

I see that delusional thinking is contagious.

“Why are they so f_cking stupid and unethcial?”

Al Gore, Robert Klanner Byrd, Sir Teddy the Magnificent, and of course, Chris Dodd and Barney Frank. And lets not forget that paragon of virtue, Al Franken. Thank you, Acorn.

USinUK

October 29th, 2009
1:16 pm

NiF –

“So there was more than one single reason?”

yep. (and if you would bother to take off your polarized lenses, you’d see that I’ve said my piece to AmVet about the market before)

Nothing Is Free

October 29th, 2009
1:16 pm

Marsh

Just curious. Ever worked for a poor person?

Jackie

October 29th, 2009
1:16 pm

As witnessed by the postings, the subject of this blog his done nothing but given the so-called conservatives more room to complain.

It was not good enough the previous administration had stewardship over the loss of more than 7 million jobs, yet they complain about the situation getting better economically.

It’s not that they can’t read, it is clear that they refuse to accept situations that are beginning to show promise. This “bright” outlook allows the sun to shine in on their dreary souls. Heaven behold, the economic sun is beginning to bring light to our dreary economic paths. They have fallen down and refuse to get up. Do you wonder if they enjoy being depondent?

Nothing Is Free

October 29th, 2009
1:17 pm

USinUK

I don’t read all the posts. It gives me digestive problems.

Mrs. Godzilla

October 29th, 2009
1:17 pm

Oh my dear Normal……

USinUK

October 29th, 2009
1:18 pm

Mike –

you’re saying you don’t trust GDP???

wow. that’s taking wingnuttiness to all new heights.

as for the official end of the recession, I’m waiting for the NBER to call it (my money is still on this quarter, but for different reasons than simply achieving positive growth)

GEORGE CONSERVATIVE

October 29th, 2009
1:18 pm

MY EVICTION AND FORECLOSURE BUSINESS IS DOING GREAT.

AS LONG AS THERE ARE LAZY BUMS WHO DON’T PAY THERE MORTGAGE OR RENT AND WON’T GET OFF THERE BUTTS AND GET A JOB – I’LL BE FINE.

THE WELFARE MOTHERS AND LAZY BUMS LIVING OFF UNEMPLOYMENT (DIMOCRATES) GIVE ME GREAT JOB PROSPECTS.

Doggone/GA

October 29th, 2009
1:21 pm

“Ever worked for a poor person?”

And have you ever worked for a rich person whose business went under because they weren’t selling enough of their goods or services to stay in business? If you haven’t, lucky you…ask the person who HAS.

The rich don’t hire people out of the goodness of their hearts (here’s something ELSE that has to be debunked over and over and over) – they hire people because their CUSTOMERS are buying. No customers, no employees, no business. And their out of work employees will get NO comfort for the fact their their rich bosses are still living in luxury.

Doggone/GA

October 29th, 2009
1:23 pm

Ahhh, Georgie boy…wondered where you had gotten to. I see that your Engrish is as good as ever.

Nothing Is Free

October 29th, 2009
1:23 pm

Jackie

Sorry dear. Complaining has been considered a God given right by liberals for the past 8 years. Surely you aren’t going to deny us that God given right.

How how’s it feel supporting a president that can do nothing right? Do the daily attacks get old? Isn’t FOX News just horrible?

Now consider turning on every major network and having Obama crucified in every program, especially entertainment programming. ASt that point, you can start complaining because what Obama is getting is nothing compared to what we had to listewn to for the last eight years..

i.e. stop whiny and get over it.

USinUK

October 29th, 2009
1:23 pm

“I don’t read all the posts. It gives me digestive problems.”

gosh. so delicate. and, of course, it saves a lot of time when you just assume stuff about other people rather than actually read what they’ve written …

Marsh

October 29th, 2009
1:24 pm

NIF @ 1:16,

I’ve never worked for a person, rich or poor.

Now here’s a question for you:

Why do you hate our troops?

Nothing Is Free

October 29th, 2009
1:25 pm

DoggoneGA

**The rich don’t hire people out of the goodness of their hearts**

NO!!!!! That can’t be!!!! Somebody get a rope!!!!! Damn rich people. They should love us all and give us their money. That is what Obama would do . . . if he ever actually ran a company.

USinUK

October 29th, 2009
1:28 pm

“They should love us all and give us their money.”

I know it’s still early, but I think this HAS to win the Specious Straw Man Argument of the Day …

Bosch

October 29th, 2009
1:28 pm

Doggone/GA

October 29th, 2009
1:28 pm

” They should love us all and give us their money”

And if they did, they would get it all back and more via their businesses that would be booming because LOTS AND LOTS of people would be buying those goods and services.

Just ask good ole Henry Ford, who INCREASED the pay of his factory workers so they could afford to buy the cars they were making. HE knew that it is CUSTOMERS who keep businesses afloat, not owners.

Doggone/GA

October 29th, 2009
1:29 pm

” know it’s still early, but I think this HAS to win the Specious Straw Man Argument of the Day …”

I’ll vote YES with you on that one!

Marsh

October 29th, 2009
1:29 pm

NIF @ 1:23,

>How how’s it feel supporting a president that can do nothing right?Do the daily attacks get old?Isn’t FOX News just horrible?<
I totally agree.

@@

October 29th, 2009
1:31 pm

Whooaaa, I’ve never done that before Enter your comments here

TnG:

Left this response for you downstairs

What’s that picture over at Bloomberg? A drive/shaft?

I luv it when they say the unemployment #s could increase to 10%. Heck! Truth be known/revealed, they’re already at 17…18%. Best talk to those 17…18 per centers who are in a state of depression.

It’s only in the dark recesses of a liberal’s mind that this thing is over.

stands for decibels

October 29th, 2009
1:31 pm

USinUK, this talk of mortgages got me thinking about a radio show I happened to hear this morning, to wit…

http://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/episodes/2009/10/28/segments/143323

Worth a listen–if that’s not in the cards, you might want to skim the NYTimes article (linked at the WNYC site above) that inspired it. A taste follows.

============

If Lenders Say ‘The Dog Ate Your Mortgage’

[B]anks and borrowers still do battle over foreclosures on an unlevel playing field that exists in far too many courtrooms. But some judges are starting to scrutinize the rules-don’t-matter methods used by lenders and their lawyers in the recent foreclosure wave. On occasion, lenders are even getting slapped around a bit.

One surprising smackdown occurred on Oct. 9 in federal bankruptcy court in the Southern District of New York. Ruling that a lender, PHH Mortgage, hadn’t proved its claim to a delinquent borrower’s home in White Plains, Judge Robert D. Drain wiped out a $461,263 mortgage debt on the property. That’s right: the mortgage debt disappeared, via a court order.

So the ruling may put a new dynamic in play in the foreclosure mess: If the lender can’t come forward with proof of ownership, and judges don’t look kindly on that, then borrowers may have a stronger hand to play in court and, apparently, may even be able to stay in their homes mortgage-free.

USinUK

October 29th, 2009
1:32 pm

Bosch –

1:28 –

is that the Mula for Mujahadeen program?

@@

October 29th, 2009
1:34 pm

Well this is just hilarious.

@@ Your comment is awaiting moderation.
October 29th, 2009
1:23 pm

Enter your comments here

The Moderator is moderating itself?

No comment.

USinUK

October 29th, 2009
1:34 pm

(and yes, strictly speaking, I know it’s not mujahadeen – I just couldn’t think of a slang for cash which started with T)

USinUK

October 29th, 2009
1:34 pm

@@ –

“The Moderator is moderating itself?”

you break the blog, you buy it.

Normal

October 29th, 2009
1:35 pm

Bosch

October 29th, 2009
1:28 pm

I hope they are not paying the Taliban more than they are paying our Service People. That would TICK me off!

#1 Foxy Lady

October 29th, 2009
1:37 pm

NiF @ 1:17 quips: I don’t read all the posts. It gives me digestive problems.

Me too. If fact yours give me watery stools!

stands for decibels

October 29th, 2009
1:41 pm

Just FYI, Jay told us a coupla days ago that he has taken it upon himself to manually remove the accidental “Enter your comments here” posts.

Marsh

October 29th, 2009
1:43 pm

Poor people cause all our problems, and have from the beginning of time. Why they are allowed to live is beyond me.

Isn’t there some way we could get rid of them all? Maybe line them up in front of a firing squad?

We could let NIF be in charge of this.

Jack

October 29th, 2009
1:44 pm

All liberals are doing the recession-is-over dance hoping it will deflect attention from the dismal performance by the Democrats.

USinUK

October 29th, 2009
1:50 pm

“All liberals are doing the recession-is-over dance hoping it will deflect attention from the dismal performance by the Democrats.”

let’s see … we’ve moved from woefully negative growth since December 2007 to finally achieving positive growth … if this is “dismal performance”, all I can say is MORE, PLEASE.

stands for decibels

October 29th, 2009
1:52 pm

All liberals are doing the recession-is-over dance

“technically over, even though it doesn’t feel that way.”

“I’m waiting for the NBER to call it ”

“the economic sun is beginning to bring light to our dreary economic paths.”

Oh yeah, we’s partyin’ like it’s 1999. That Halfrican guy has us pegged, I tell you what.

Normal

October 29th, 2009
1:52 pm

you don’t know Jack and Jack don’t know sh*t

USinUK

October 29th, 2009
1:58 pm

while this has truly been a hootenanny … I’m heading home – have a great evening, all!!!

AmVet

October 29th, 2009
2:01 pm

NIFty, you could no more explain what happened last fall regarding the economic implosion than you could explain how to perform open heart surgery.

But I’d LOVE to hear your discourse on the causes.

Take your time. You’re gonna need to brush up a lot, it would seem.

(And here’s a hint, it’s not about rich people. Though challenging, think in terms of ethics, etc…)

Mrs. Godzilla

October 29th, 2009
2:04 pm

Dancing?

We don’t do no stinkin’ dancin’!

Marsh

October 29th, 2009
2:08 pm

NIF @ 1:25,

“They should love us all and give us their money.”

Hell, I don’t want their love, just their money.

AmVet

October 29th, 2009
2:10 pm

I just finished a bus tour with my fellow veterans to promote clean energy as a way to break our dependence on Middle East oil, and I wanted to give you the rundown and send some of my favorite news articles about it.

Because of this tour, I got to know fellow veterans around the country, united with a common mission in a cause we believe in. We’re out of uniform but our service continues. The reception we received across the country was overwhelmingly positive and supportive. Even President Obama gave us a shout out in a speech last week on solving our energy problem! Americans of all generations across the country really connected with our message, and went out of their way to thank us for our service (in and out of uniform).

The media coverage was outstanding.

Not only was this tour useful for positively affecting change, but I noticed many of our fellow veterans become confident and effective public speakers and messengers. The tour gave many veterans the skills and confidence to effectively fight for what we believe in. So though this tour is over, what we gained will last forever.

We have you to thank for all of this. Because of your unending support of VoteVets.org, we were able to get this together. So, to close, I want to thank you for everything you’ve done to support us. It’s having a real impact.

Thanks again,
Michael Breen
Afghanistan and Iraq Veteran
VoteVets.org

Marsh

October 29th, 2009
2:10 pm

Jack @ 1:44,

No dancin’ here. The Southern Talibaptists don’t allow it.

Normal

October 29th, 2009
2:11 pm

Does anyone remember that today in 1929, the stock market crashed and today in 1971, Duane Allman died. I don’t know which one is worse…

Bosch

October 29th, 2009
2:12 pm

“Dancing?

We don’t do no stinkin’ dancin’!”

Fer rizzle. We groove to the beat, yo.

Normal

October 29th, 2009
2:12 pm

AmVet, way to go!

Taxpayer

October 29th, 2009
2:14 pm

Poor right wingnutters. The recession ended. What ever will they whine about now — the lack of jobs. What! Do they think that it’s the government’s job to get them jobs now! Don’t they know that Obama gave the Republicans even more tax cuts to go with the Bush tax cuts in order to satisfy their craving for the joke that they call trickle down economics. They should be basking in an overabundance of jobs if all it takes are tax cuts. I guess the laff is on them after all. The poor things. By the way, don’t eat no yellow snow once your global cooling has turned everything into mounds of ice, right wing nutters.

Joey

October 29th, 2009
2:22 pm

From Jay’s exerpt:
“A lot of this is thanks to government support (read spending).” The consumer, in fact private demand in general, is not ready yet to pick up the growth baton from the government.”

Sure, why not pretend that the turn-around has arrived. Our pretending that a National Health Care System will rescue us is working so well.

Warren "Slim" Soros, GE Inc.

October 29th, 2009
2:27 pm

Silly taxed citizens.

Our last appointee told you to shop and spend.
The frugal among you refused.

Now we will just spend it for you.

Ha Ha.

It will be much easier to just succumb to our promises of financial security and safety.

To pass a seatbelt law is indicative of your resolve to fight for personal liberty. You have none.

So why fight now?

After all,,,,,,,what chance do you have?

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October 29th, 2009
2:27 pm

I must admit, my viewing pleasure is at its peak when I get to see jay’s place left to the liberals.

Glad handing attaboys all around. Other than that, not much to discuss.

Too funny!

Nothing Is Free

October 29th, 2009
2:27 pm

Marsh

Are you still torturing and killing kitty cats? (While we are making crap up)

Nothing Is Free

October 29th, 2009
2:29 pm

AMVet

**The media coverage was outstanding.**

Something that Obama loved and the media loved it too? Say it ain’t so!!!

AmVet

October 29th, 2009
2:32 pm

NIFty, it’s a veteran’s thang.

You wouldn’t understand…

TW

October 29th, 2009
2:36 pm

If lives were lost, does that mean he who instigated this recession if guilty of homicidal negligence?

Jimmy Carter

October 29th, 2009
2:41 pm

Right, Jay. And Obama’s “technically” made a decision about Afghanistan even if it doesn’t seem that way.

Nothing Is Free

October 29th, 2009
2:44 pm

DoggoneGA

**And if they did, they would get it all back and more via their businesses that would be booming because LOTS AND LOTS of people would be buying those goods and services.**

Face a little reality here, Pal. A lot of business owners care a lot for their employees. Sometimes you sound like you have bought into the liberal’s BS completely. As long as “The Machine” keeps telling you that all rich people or all business owners are evil, there is little chance of anyone understanding the real problems.

No, business owners don’t give away money. They use that money to pay their employees and pay taxes and supply those employees with benefits. I have taken some real risks with my company, but never with it’s assets. My employees often make more than I make, especially in these hard times. But to hear you talk, they are nothing but a disposable assets to me.

My house has been mortgaged to pay my employees. I can’t help but wonder if you would mortgage your house to make sure your boss gets paid. Well would you? My accountant tells me how much I have made at the end of each quarter. First quarter this last year, I made zilch, nothing, not a dime. But every single employee was paid, every dime I owed them.

Of course the obvious question is: have you ever ran a business? Had employees that depend on you? My guess would be no.

Owning a company is ALWAYS an exercise in protecting your employees before protecting yourself. I can eat spaghetti and live off credit cards, but I can’t replace good employees.

Warren "Slim" Soros, GE Inc.D.B.A. Xing Shipping, A Southern Company

October 29th, 2009
2:46 pm

Pay no attention to those espousing individualism and the over-rated concept of liberty.

Relax,
We have this covered too.

The miscreants of the 1770’s only slowed our efforts to provide a better governed life. And these same miscreants owned slaves and would probably be related to Ronald Reagan.

Relax citizens,
serve your government accordingly,
and enjoy the ride.