President pays respects to America’s fallen

Did Shrub ever do that? Not saying he didn’t, just wonderin’.

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I’ll say again what I said downstairs, I wish he would go to Dover to meet the alive troops he had just ordered home.

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Obama’s Declaration Of Swine Flu Emergency Prompts Pro-Swine-Flu Republican Response

http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/obamas_declaration_of_swine?utm_source=slate_rss_1

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What are the chances “that in 10 years, Afghanistan will be a peaceful, self-governing nation that offers no harbor for Islamic terrorism”? I’d put it at about 5%.

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well done, Obama – thanks for not only having the integrity for honoring our war dead, but also for realizing that US citizens SHOULD see our dead being repatriated.

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Enough is enough, bring them home. Afghanistan is just a testing ground for new weapons. Getting really tired of being the policeman for the world. Nobody else seems to care what goes on with these guys. Its in their backyard so let Europe, China, India handle it. Would love to see what the world and the UN would do without American troops and American money.

Not saying we should part ways with everybody, but getting really tired of the rest of world hating on us, until they need us.

Afghanistan is a souless pit. The USSR couldnt defeat them, and we can’t either. The 2 most powerful armys in the world and they are still there.

Whats that definition of insanity again?

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Nothing poblem with the first part, the end is the problem. So just have all the fallen to have died in vein, and cut and and run, and allow Afghanistan to once again become controlled by the Taliban is what you’re saying huh Jay?

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The number of Americans collecting unemployment insurance fell more than forecast to the lowest level in seven months, a government report showed.

The number of people receiving jobless benefits declined by 148,000 to 5.8 million in the week ended Oct. 17, the lowest since March 21 and biggest weekly drop since July, Labor Department figures showed today in Washington. Initial jobless claims fell by 1,000 to 530,000 in the week ended Oct. 24, from 531,000 the prior week.

Companies are cutting few jobs as they see more evidence of a recovery, helped by government stimulus efforts and less weakness in housing and manufacturing. A rebound in hiring may take longer to materialize than other parts of the economy, and economists predict the unemployment rate will rise to 10 percent by early 2010.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=addLGY7AlNrM

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The USA has had a presence in Afghanistan longer than the old Soviet Union, whom had to go home in defeat. For their efforts, Afghanistan was more lawless than when they went in.

What is our purpose in the country and what can we do to bring peace and stability?

The obvious answers are we have no purpose: we can not impose peace nor bring about stability without the Afghans wanting it.

Time to load it up and head back this way!

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Getting some points for the big Jay Leno interview coming up.

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“Peadawg…you support bring them home rather than surging?”

Yes I do Godzilla. I’m actually kinda of torn on the subject…on one hand, we need to finally get Bin Laden but on the other hand, I’m tired of ready a story every other day about 5 or 10 or whatever more soldiers killed in Afghanistan or Iraq.

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What happened to “Code Pink”?

mmm, mmmm, mmmm

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“The other marsh”

Dude take your time, get your thoughts in order, type slowly, re-read the post, fix errors, then hit the submit comment tab.

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Peadawg,

Thanks for the honest answer.

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Thank You Mr. President.. The only downside is you had to smear it to get your “photo op”

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Saluting pristine flag draped caskets is one thing. I would like to see a president for once who had the courage to go over and watch the mangled bodies as they come off the medivac choppers.

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Hey Finn, why do you libs want to make it another Vietnam so badly? If I knew what would result in winning the Afghan campaign, I wouldn’t be here blogging with you. I’d be a military analyst.

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USinUK
- Peoples benefits are running OUT.. thats why the numbers get lower.

Other Rants -

- Whitehouse miscounts jobs that it created by several THOUSAND – double and triple counted in some case – Yep.. trust these people when they say the healthcare bill won’t cost you anything.
- Clunkers program cost $24,000 per car.. this figure done by people that actually study the industry.. not by some czar that has no clue.
- Rangel – Man that forms IRS regulations reveals he hasn’t been paying taxes for YEARS.. but thats OK with the Dems.. they have even come out and supported him.. (FYI he is not paying fines on his back taxes either) Guess thats the new CHANGE..

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“about like it did when he wouldn’t place his hand over his heart at the Pledge of Allegiance”

That’s right…he should have put his hand over his stomach like George Bush did: http://www.thepresidentialcandidates.us/falsehoods-about-barack-obama-not-putting-his-hand-on-his-heart/178/

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would someone mind telling going broke that benefits have been extended, so this number doesn’t reflect the roll-off.

thanks

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dude…haven’t seen them in the last 10 months.

again, what happened to Code Pink?

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George Bush met privately with each family far away from the cameras. Every president has his way of paying respects.

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normal…I totally agree with your constant call to bring them home, my son came back alive, but with a permanently disabling back injury that required major surgery that included some hardware being installed in his spine..the cost of all this is too high for the results it is producing.

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“dude…haven’t seen them in the last 10 months. again, what happened to Code Pink?”

Ramble – do you have reading comprehension problems???

USinUK

October 29th, 2009
8:54 am
What happened to “Code Pink”?

dude … google. it’s your friend

http://news.google.co.uk/news?hl=en&source=hp&q=code%20pink%20protests&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn

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Doggone/GA

October 29th, 2009
8:33 am

Not being the contrarian, but I think 5% may be a little too high.

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If we follow your advice, what do you think the chances that in 10 years, Afghanistan will be a peaceful, self-governing nation that offers no harbor for Islamic terrorism?

Oh, I don’t know. I’d say about the same chances that a Southern Baptist will view other religions as equal and see women’s reproductive rights and sexual orientation as a private issue.

Let’s see, now, Afghanistan is a primitive country populated by a people that scorn the notion of democracy and that see room for only one religion. It is governed by a puppet who is the creation of a bunch of warlords, all of whom get a piece of the pie. Its government wouldn’t care if 100,000 of our troops were slaughtered, provided that slaughter had no adverse impact on its power. It has zero strategic value, except for its geographical location as a launching pad for insurgent raids into Pakistan.

The real strategic value in the region resides in Pakistan and its nuclear weapons. Let the insurgents slaughter Karzai and his corrupt government. It doesn’t really matter who governs Afghanistan. It is still a s__hole that bases its existence on the opium trade. Use air strikes, including drones, to decimate the insurgents in their safe haven on the country’s border with Pakistan. Ignore Afghanistan, focus on securing Pakistan, and bring our ground troops home. Stop acting as though our manhood is at stake if we withdraw our ground troops. If Alexander the Great, Great Britain, and the Soviet Union couldn’t win a ground war in Afghanistan, why do people think we can?

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USinUK, You need to go to work for Oboso. You do not have a clue !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I think we need to combat the Taliban and all terrorist in Afghanistan. We also need to help the Afghan people build their country again. The payoff for America is another free country.

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Stimulus jobs overstated by thousands…

More than $1.2 billion awarded to firms on watchdog’s list…

Afghan, Pakistan carnage raises heat on Obama…

Obama Insider: Bill Sunk Hillary’s VP Chances…

‘Defaced flag’ video is finalist in DNC contest…

Obama eyes smaller Afghan troop option…

Unhappy with criticism of his NYC date night…

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Finn McCool

October 29th, 2009
8:29 am

Well, the GOP is trying to break out of that image of being the party of no.

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Looking back, Road Scholar, I never read anywhere that said, “I call myself a patriot.”

Now am I patriotic? Yes. That is why it totally erked me when the then presidential candidate Senator Obama wouldn’t pledge the flag while all of the other candidates did.

Am I glad the president decided to go to honor the fallen soldiers. ABSOLUTELY! I respect the position of the President of the United States, too. But do I respect Obama, the man? No.

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electrician, then do what I do. Everyday I post here, I post at the White House and the Democratic Party sites. I don’t know if it does anygood but I know that someone has to see it and maybe if enough people do it, the word will get to the President. Waiting to vote is too far away and too many more lives will be lost by then. We can’t do much, but we can do what we can. Please write.

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Under BUSH…….the AJC gleefully reported the mounting death count…Editors salivated over the rising DEATH count.

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Call it like it is: Well said! Don’t retreat from these mannerless, angry thugs. Why can’t we discuss,and/or disagree with respect?

To those who have served, I thank you for your service. For those who have lost loved ones, my regards and prayers.

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You folks stand around bitchin about how much health care reform is going to cost while we throw millions of dollars a day away on a war that isn’t even winnable.

The Last Boy Scout, if you ever see a free country, you point it out to me, ok?

When afghanistan gets put back together another dictator will take it over. 10 years from now NOTHING will have changed in Afghanistan. NOTHING.

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“Under BUSH…….the AJC gleefully reported the mounting death count…Editors salivated over the rising DEATH count.”

dangitall, where was that sign??? … OH! HERE’S YOUR SIGN!!!

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“Salivated” over the death count? I bet you also believe pro choice people are “pro” abortion, too?

You should watch Fox News, they rely on people who think like that.

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Never had to google “Code Pink” before, just tune into the nightly news. That was 10 months ago Slick.

Perhaps your comprehension skills need to go beyond reading.

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“I beg your pardon, Doggone, but when placing your hand over your heart and saying the Pledge of Allegiance become window dressing and “rah rah” stuff?”

When have they ever been anything BUT rah rah stuff? The worst America hater to exist can put his hand over his heart, say the words and salute the flag it won’t mean a damn thing.

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William

How many children to you have and how old are they?

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do not to…

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I say bring the troops home. We may need them to protect the congress and POTUS. Their may be chaos when Lying Obama proclaims himself a god.

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Doggone/GA

October 29th, 2009
8:33 am
“What are the chances “that in 10 years, Afghanistan will be a peaceful, self-governing nation that offers no harbor for Islamic terrorism”? I’d put it at about 5%.”

Great point. Afghanistan hasn’t changed one iota in 2,500 years. What makes anyone think they’ll go along with any program imposed on them? I don’t think a country that condemns the west and derives it’s income from Poppy production will change 1%. On a good day.

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William: “Hey, a democrat was in charge those days too.”

So was a Republican, just sayin’

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doggone –

“When have they ever been anything BUT rah rah stuff? The worst America hater to exist can put his hand over his heart, say the words and salute the flag it won’t mean a damn thing.”

raucous applause — well said.

ramble –

“Never had to google “Code Pink” before, just tune into the nightly news. ”

awwww … poor ramble has reading problems and can only get his news from the teeeveee … (which explains oh, so much)

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“it used to mean something, but you have pointed out how little it means to you and to others”

I’m guessing this was addressed to me. If it helps to make you feel even more superior, I don’t bow my head in prayer either.

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USinUK:
“purchasing with what?” In my family if you do not have a job you can not purchase anything. You are putting the cart ahead of the horse…I hate that saying. Maybe you can further explain how my family can purchase healthcare without a job. I will gladly pass that info on…

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I’m smarter than you.

What we need is a great leader. Back when the depression hit, President FDR got on TV and assured the nation that things would be okay. We need another leader like that. One that will focus on things like a simple three letter word, J – O – B – S.

As I said, I am smarter than you.

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Well, Jay and the AJC “news” staff sure jumped all over this political photo op with the requisite praise. As soon as I saw this on the front page of the MSNBC, I knew that it would be the subject of Jay’s blog. You can set a watch to Jay’s brand of predictable echoing of partisan spin.

Kudos to the White House PR staff. They really know how to get the media to bark on command.

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It was a noble gesture by the President. He gets one right.

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Paul

October 29th, 2009
9:25 am

Paul, didn’t know of the movie, but I doubt I could sit and watch it. As for Hollywood, I can still remember the characterization of the Viet Nam Veteran in the movies. Drug soaked psychotic serial
killers everyone. You would have thought that Manson was a VN Vet.

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That is the least he can do since he’s done nothing else but run this country down since he’s been in office.

As, he always blames America whenever he speaks.

Enough Said!

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Marsh –

“President Obama is not afraid of the fallen soldiers’ coffins.”

LOL. You really drank the kool-aid on this didn’t you? This photo op was done in large measure to allow folks like yourself make that silly comment.

It is so easy to manipulate that partisans on either side. What the White House needs to improve is their messaging to people in the middle, to whom this nakedly political photo op will mean little.

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The fact that we elected a Chicago lawyer as our leader has emboldened our enemies. This was the worst month in the worst year since we have been in Afghanistan. They aren’t afraid of Obama and it is obvious why: he is more afraid of hurting his own popularity than he is about protecting our troops.

So he goes and meets the bodies. Bush did it often, but unlike the media wh*re that we now have, he did the classy thing and kept it secret.

OBOZO, INSTEAD OF SPENDING THE TIME TO TAKE YOUR ENTIRE ENTOURAGE TO DOVER, HOW ABOUT MAKING A FRIGIN’ DECISION!?!? MAYBE THEN THERE WON”T BE AS MANY DEAD AMERICANS, not that you would give a damn.

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The only reason we effected change in Germany after WW2 was because we and the Russians rolled up the entire country. We leveled the country so much that they had no choice but to start from scratch.

What we’re doing in Afghanistan and Iraq amounts to us and the Russians having stopped at the border of Germany and said “Ok, you Germans are back where you belong, in your own country, we’re going home.”

Either your in it to win it or you are just expending lives and money and getting nowhere and we are currently getting nowhere while expending lives and money. If we are going to effect change there then we have to level the country and force them to start over again. Otherwise, lets just go home. Quit running around the bush making military contractors rich and killing our young people.

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It will not happen and everyone knows it.
They may not admit it, but they know it.

Do you think our nation is grow-up enough to accept a President who would tell them the truth about this? Or would we all have a collective s–t fit?

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NIF says The fact that we elected a Chicago lawyer as our leader has emboldened our enemies.

NIF, if another country invaded us would you just stand around and let them kill your relatives while dictating how your new life would be lived? You wouldn’t be mad as hell and fighting them tooth and nail?

It’s got nothing to do with who our leader is. Our troops are in their backyard and they are responding as any normal, rational human being would.

Go sell your political angling somewhere else. We aren’t idiots.

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“The fact that we elected a failed Texas baseball owner as our leader has emboldened our enemies. This was the worst month in the worst year since we have been in Iraq”

sorry, NiF, but the same could have been said right after Bush was reelected

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Normal 9:37

Had a discussion the other night with DebbieDoRight. I believe she was born after Vietnam but has family members (career) who served there. She took my characterizations of the country’s treatment of soldiers, as well as how those with connections got in the Guard (they rarely went to Vietnam) how draft dodging was not seen as unpatriotic, how going to Vietnam was not seen as patriotic, as a slur on the military.

Today is not then. Attitudes are much different. Heard a career retired military guy on tv. Said when he went in (Vietnam time) military was dead last in polls of ‘who do you trust’? Now it’s number one or at the top. Attitudes change. Thank goodness.

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Jay,

This was simply a nice photo-op by the President. He set it up a long time ago when he removed the ban on the media showing the fallen Military coffin’s ban.

Make no mistake, this was a purely political picture done for a photo-op.

And you are now using it for your political purposes as well.

Congratulations comrade.

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FOUND IT!!! Apparently I’ve found the problem.

Nope.

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I’ll tell you what Obama’s waiting for regarding Afghan. Next weeks elections.

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Reports out this morning that the Pres will go with a “McCrystal Lite” plan. 20,0000 additional. Pull back from outlying regions. Concentrate on cities.

I’m not sure if this is a new strategy or an attempt to compromise, to harmonize, to give everybody a little something. I hope not. War is not the place for such political considerations.

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Photo op? in the dark?…..some of you are really pitiful.

May God save your souls.

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Paul

October 29th, 2009
9:51 am

I would expect this to be the administration’s plan. Announce the troop buildup (AFTER the NJ and VA elections), mention concentrating on the cities and pulling out of the outlying regions. With this announcement, the taliban will just move to the outlying regions and make periodic assaults in the cities. Just give ‘em our playbook. Geez.

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D-tTD @ 9:52,

Gosh, once again, I need proof of how you know this.

Thank you in advance.

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Mrs. Godzilla

October 29th, 2009
9:53 am

Did you come up with that one by yourself, or did you use a teleprompter?

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Meth Addicts Demand Government Address Nation’s Growing Spider Menace

A 45,000-word proposal was drafted by members of TRN during a marathon, 72-hour meeting under the Roosevelt Bridge, and presented twice to the Senate Indian Affairs Committee. The document, which includes schematics for the development of a giant “spider bomb” the size of Rhode Island, concludes repeatedly that the problem would best be combated with large quantities of methamphetamines and steel wool.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/meth_addicts_demand_government?utm_source=slate_rss_1

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Marsh

**Evidently Shrub kept it so secret that no one knows about it, except, well, you…Ha!**

“President Bush offered personal condolences on Monday to the families of 26 soldiers killed in Iraq, meeting privately with 98 parents, spouses, children and other relatives of the dead at a time when his handling of war casualties has become a political issue.”

That would be me and anyone who can read.

New York Times:

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jconservative

October 29th, 2009
9:51 am

Well said, and welcome home.

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Thank Heavens that most of America is smarter than that.

As evidenced by the last presidential election.

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NiF –

“The last year under Bush was the most promising year we have had in Afghanistan”

don’t take this the wrong way, but you couldn’t BE more wrong on that assessment – but, considering how much attention the US media paid to Iraq, it’s understandable. Afghanistan has been accelerating for nearly the last 2 years

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/07/usa.afghanistan

and and interesting piece in the Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/world/asia/09iht-nato.4.16826833.html

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“Just give ‘em our playbook. Geez”

You HAVE got to be kidding. There’s no way to keep our “playbook” secret from them. The very BEST we could do is keep them from finding out…right up until the DAY we start. Once we start, they’ll figure it out quick.

The ONLY WAY to keep our plans a total secret would be to have our army be all Afghani, no uniforms, no military vehicles, mixed in with the civilian population. Sound like the “enemy” – doesn’t it?

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Normal

Agreed. Getting all the blame (responsibility) while having none of the authority is difficult.

Thanks for what you did.

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Speaking of setups, let’s not forget the masters of this genre – the Clintons. Remember these?

Clinton (D):
At Normandy – walking on a sandy beach, comes across a mystery pile of rocks (intentionally place ther), and arranges them in a cross. Luckily, a battleship was in the background for this big-money photo op.

Clinton (D):
A few days later – walking among headstones of fallen soldiers. All headstones have an American flag planted in front of them. Clinton (D) happens to come across the ONE flag that had fallen over, and he leans over to re-plant the flag.

Clinton (D) and Rodham Clinton (D):
While enjoying a vacation on a tropical isle, a reporter somehow gets past the Secret Service to take a picture of Clinton (D) and Rodham Clinton (D) dancing arm in arm. They were along with their daughter. No walkmans. No radio. No boombox. No band. They were just dancing to the tune of mother nature. (Two weeks later, the Lewinsky scandal broke).

Clinton (D) Rodham Clinton (D):
Every townhall meeting they ever participated in included hand-selected audiences. Don’t forget that.

Sandy Burger (D):
Stuffs classified papers in his pants. Documents may have been related to Clinton (D) responses (or lack thereof) to terrorist plots. Many papers never appear again as they were destroyed. No charges of a coverup advanced by the media (D).

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I guess this scares you huh

Again, william, do you approve of Al Queda’s use of said tactics on 9/11/01? And, I promise not to be scared of you widdle answer.

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Uncool

**Got anything original**

Nope. Just the same old media wh0re in the WH, trying to take control of as much as he can. You know, just what we said he was before you elected him. The facts haven’t changed a bit.

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NIF

For a place with lights on the field sure was a dark video…..

Oh I know!

He wanted it that dark so that in the photo op you couldn’t see him
giggling and goofing off and sticking his tongue out and just having s good time at a solemn occasion…..

There are really some sick puppies here.

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There are really some sick puppies here.

Given the solemn topic, this particular comments thread might be an especially good time not to feed them.

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hef –

“(only his hairdresser knows for sure)”

LOL … I haven’t heard that for AGES … thanks for hte laugh!!

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Marsh

October 29th, 2009
8:21 am

No he didn’t.

I sure hope Obama was sincere and wasn’t guilty of using the troops as a photo op like the person you mentioned.

Jay, were the 3 other civilians shown family members of the fallen hero?

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This indecisive incompetent president doesn’t deserve a photo-op with our military. The Taliban see a weak leader in Obama and they have stepped up their offensive. They are receiving assistance directly and covertly from states who also see the weakness in this administration. If our government and the American people can’t support our military sufficiently enough for them to complete the job, by all means bring them home. They have fought well without the support of a war declaration just like in Korea, Vietnam and now this. It was indeed interesting to see the bloggers yesterday discussing to which president did the Vietnam war belong to. Wars belong to those who fight in them not to presidents or to the POS’s we elect to Congress because it is they who make the sacrifice. Politicians by and large are only interested in their election/reelection not in the people who are getting shot at.

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NiF –

“I give the guardian all the respect you would give the Limbaugh letter and the NYT article had no dateline.”

fine – here’s voice of america:

http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2008-11/2008-11-25-voa63.cfm?CFID=311248253&CFTOKEN=56468026&jsessionid=88309440211247e7b3685770787c4f45432f

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and here’s ABC

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/12/more-troops-are.html

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Mrs. Godzilla

**He wanted it that dark so that in the photo op you couldn’t see him
giggling and goofing off and sticking his tongue out and just having s good time at a solemn occasion…..**

So is that what you think he did? I don’t think you understand. Obozo is a coward and one slimy dude, but he and his political machine is the most powerful and polished political machine in the world. How good are they? They beat the Clinton machine, hands down. Even a slick-arse Chicago lawyer knows to mind his manners. Obama is the slickest (slimiest)

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USinUK

And this year is the worst. Get it?

Obama has been in charge THIS YEAR. Get it?

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“There will be new names and new organizations”

Yeah, I’ve often wondered how many millions of people have read, as children, about Hercules fighting the 9 headed monster and still think he was supposed to have been fighting an actual monster. Analogies just pass right by them.

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Just walk away? That advice is so beyond stupid that it is amazing that a grown person would make such a statement and that grown people would have such idiotic ideas. We are not in Afghanistan for the hell of it, we were directly attacked no less then 6 times by these people. Thousands of deaths, American African and otherwise, so do those people no matter? Are their lives so insignificant that you would walk away and re-enable these people to not only get away with it, but to do it again and to what degree?
If we leave with out finishing the job more people will die, many more. There has been no indication that they will stop, hell all we did was help them with the Soviets and then they turned the guns we gave them on us.
This is a gross stupidity of under estimating the resolve of your enemy. They hate you and want you to die, they don’t really care that you are on their side.

Afghanistan has to be won. There is no choice in the matter, so we better figure out how to do it and then do it. Failure to do so will cost lives in the thousands, if not more.

America’s greatest disease is history-Alzheimer’s. The present does not exist in a bubble, they have not attacked us again because we didn’t let them, not because they turned over a new leaf.
This is almost as stupid as when Anderson Cooper discovered that nasrallah was actually anti-Semitic, who knew!

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There are really some sick puppies here.

They’re also currently known as the 19 percenters. We are looking forward to further reductions in that number though.

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NiF –

“And this year is the worst. Get it? Obama has been in charge THIS YEAR. Get it?”

ahem. your original statement was: “The last year under Bush was the most promising year we have had in Afghanistan”

which was wrong. this year is bad, but it’s a situation which has been escallating for nearly 2 years (which means that last year wasn’t the best/most promising/rosiest or anything else).

got it?

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Nothing Is Free

October 29th, 2009
10:19 am

you sure do clutch at straws, just sayin’…Bless your heart.

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Just a little liberal bigotry to spice up the blog.

Proclaims the bi-partisan NIF. hehehe

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Del

October 29th, 2009
10:13 am

I salute the fallen heroes, as well, and apologize for the poiticians that placed them in harm’s way.

Obama is tough as nails, and the Taliban and the rest of the world will soon know it if they don’t already. I guess kicking GOP butt wasn’t enough for you? It’s the president that sends the troops into undeclared wars and they must take full responsibility for their actions, especially if it is a preemptive strike.

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Taxpayer

October 29th, 2009
10:20 am

You’re right about the 19 percenters. The lastest report said roughly 19% of the population identify themselves as liberals. I, too, am looking forward to further reductions in that number. Most Americans consider themselves Republicans or Conservatives.

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jconservative

**Increasing the number of troops increases the number of dead.**

LOL!! Did you just make that up? LOL!!! What a bunch of nonsense.

**He would have probably served the nation better if he had spent a few weeks going over the dozens of options & discussing those options with his “war cabinet” & the Pentagon. **

Do you really see it like that? Bush didn’t have troops in harms way, waiting on his decision. Obozo does. PLEASE TRY TO THINK!!!!

And BTW. Congress supported the war. Get it?

PLEASE try and think beyond what you are told to think. Going into Iraq and Afghanistan was not done by Bush in Cheney in back rooms (like our health care future is being done) Hearing you talk about it like it was a small group of Republicans sending our troops off does nothing to show any real understanding on your part. It does show that you buy into the simplistic version given by the far left.

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FinnMcCool

October 29th, 2009
10:23 am

Move to another country? Did you do the same during the past 8 years? Doubt it. I guess when you cannot deal with alternative views the best you can come up with is “we sure don’t want you around”. Typical liberal response.

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You have to hand it to the conservatives here. The Republican administration ignored, undermanned and under funded the war in Afghanistan for what, 8 years and now are complaining that President Obama is taking his time in making a decision to escalate a conflict that was, potentially lost years ago due to the neglect of George Bush/Dick Cheney. Dick Cheney has the temerity to accuse Obama of dithering when he and his ilk dithered for 8 years on Afghanistan??? These people and their supporters should be taken out and hung. I’ll volunteer to kick the chairs out from under them. Heck, I’ll pay very well for that opportunity. Who wants to go first?

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Mrs. Godzilla

**No dear, you don’t understand. Never have, never will,
and in the the end….you will pay the ultimate price.**

Wow. What a riveting debate. My family is doing very well, not that it is any of your business.

But it’s good to know that you have no response other than yet another slimy personal attack. I expected no more.

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TnG –

“Lead ‘em by the nose!”

fat lot of good it will do … I’m not holding my breath that he’ll even acknowledge his error

but thanks for the attagirl

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Jimmy Carter October 29th, 2009 10:24 am SAID: Most Americans consider themselves Republicans or Conservatives.

CHRIS SAYS: ROFLMAO. That’s a load of BS if I’ve ever seen one. You got any reliable sources to back up that claim or did you, like others like you, just pull that out of your fat ………..???

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JJ @ 9:59,

You know, I believe I do remember hearing a story about a rat crawling up his pants leg, just before he choked on a pretzel.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/17/AR2007021701172.html

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BAH…he has to do something to placate to the right and FOX News. Obobo is on the run.

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Not Cool

**We sure don’t want you around.**

Another lib-conservative difference. We want everyone to enjoy our freedoms while we still have them. You want people who do not march in your little goose step to leave.

Enjoy the freedoms that some very brave men and women have fought to give you. but no. We won’t be leaving. Deal with it.

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Chris,Chris, you are saying that people should be killed for supporting somebody you don’t like? Very telling. You side with the terrorists, and want to see conservatives be killed, well you are in good company sir.

Bush mishandled the war, agreed. So how does it make sense for obama to mishandle it, too, or make it even worse?…Oh that’s right it doesn’t matter, you just want to see conservatives swing from a rope.

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NIF

No slimey personal attack, just pity.

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Going into Iraq and Afghanistan was not done by Bush in Cheney in back rooms (like our health care future is being done)

um, I believe the Senate and House are a little bit involved in the health care process. Just a tiny bit, maybe?

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Salzmann…aka tough guy, aka walking/talking cliche. Interesting that you are making threats against people that are still under secret service protection.

Have you been to AF? Have you been to Pak? Have talked to those that have? Have you talked to those who were there three, two, or one year ago? Or there now?? How have things changed during that period? Why?

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Doggone/GA

October 29th, 2009
10:29 am

Just to raise your ire? Good grief! The family also saluted, so I’m sure it has some tradition. John-John saluted his father, as you recall.

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Nothing Is Free

October 29th, 2009
10:31 am

When was the last time brave men and women fought for “our” freedoms?

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Bookman

Why don’t you also ask the General if the 3000 reasons we first went into Afganistan are still of value today?

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“Just to raise your ire? Good grief!”

Huh? What is “just to raise my ire”? I don’t see any correlation between this statement and my attempts to educate the ignorant about why the President uses a “military” salute, when “out of uniform”

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Nothing Is Free

October 29th, 2009
10:19 am

pat

Bush mishandled the war, agreed. So how does it make sense for obama to mishandle it, too.

Regardless of who, the war is beyond redemption. That is why we need to withdraw. Because of all of the “mishandling”, our Service People and their equiptment are worn out. They need rest and refitting. We are just wasting American lives, otherwise. when the situation becomes FUBAR, you have to leave it alone and prepare for the future.

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Jimmy,

Denial so becomes you but it still does not change the fact that you are in the loser party, the party of no, the Repulicans, the 19 percent crowd. Unless, you are trying to give up your past ways of war mongering on someone else’s dime.

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pat October 29th, 2009 10:32 am SAID: Chris,Chris, you are saying that people should be killed for supporting somebody you don’t like? Very telling. You side with the terrorists, and want to see conservatives be killed, well you are in good company sir.

CHRIS SAYS: You and your ilk sided with terrorists for 8 years. First by ignoring Afghanistan and then by attacking Iraq, a country that had nothing to do with 9/11. The war in Iraq was based on lies and those lies killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians and over 4000 American lies. Anyone who supported that should swing……….

pat October 29th, 2009 10:32 am SAID: Bush mishandled the war, agreed. So how does it make sense for obama to mishandle it, too, or make it even worse?…Oh that’s right it doesn’t matter, you just want to see conservatives swing from a rope.

CHRIS SAYS: So, you agree that Bush screwed up? How big of you!!! Funny that we didn’t hear the likes of you admit that while Bush/Cheney were sitting in office screwing it up? I distinctly remember hearing conservatives call us traitors because we didn’t buy into the lies about Iraq, WMDs and Iraq’s involvement in 9/11. Lies that people like you bought into hook line and sinker. Must be that lack of intelligence makes you all so gullible. Yeah, Obama is left with the mess that you conservatives left this country with. Frankly, for all the pain and suffering you conservatives have caused this country in the last 8 years, no amount of suffering is good enough for people like you.

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doggone –

little fun fact for you – even Eisenhower never wore his uniform in office (and, let’s face it, if there ever was someone who earned the right to wear it, he did).

in fact, in the quick surfing I’ve done on the topic, the only sitting president I could find who did don his uniform while in office was Washington while leading the troops against the whiskey rebellion.

I could be wrong – like I said, this was a quick 5-minute pootle around the intertubes …

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Why did he have to do this in the middle of the night? What motive other than a PR advantage for some reason? What is his response going to be on Nov. 11 as the nation celebrates Armistice Day. Have you noticed since being President; he has not begun a message with My Fellow Americans as he does not realize that he is ignoring the almost 50% of the people that voted against him? How can citizens and veterans take this President seriously???

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Taxpayer

October 29th, 2009
10:42 am

I would suggest you try not to “wax eloquent” Mr. 21 percenter. It magnifies your ignorance.

WWII – started by Democrat FDR
Korean War – started by Democrat Truman
Vietnam War – started by Democrat JFK
Desert Storm – started by Republican George Bush
Bosnian War – started by Democrat Clinton
Iraq War – started by Republican W.

The “war monger” monicker is a nice try, but it’s just not the truth. I suggest you develop your own ideas rather than read from the DNC playbook.

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Jimmy Carter October 29th, 2009 10:24 am SAID: Most Americans consider themselves Republicans or Conservatives.

CHRIS SAYS: By most you meant ?????

Jimmy Carter

October 29th, 2009
10:41 am

Chris Salzman, (aka Dumb azz 21 percenter) are you still rolling your fat … on the floor laughing? Here, I’ll summarize it for you again. Here’s the gallup poll:

40% of Americans interviewed in national Gallup Poll surveys describe their political views as conservative, 35% as moderate, and 21% as liberal. This represents a slight increase for conservatism in the U.S. since 2008, returning it to a level last seen in 2004.

CHRIS SAYS: So, again, 40% means “most Americans”???? Maybe in your screwed up reality.

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“Why did he have to do this in the middle of the night? What motive other than a PR advantage for some reason?”

first of all, as someone who worked in PR for 8 years, “middle of the night” doesn’t give you a “PR advantage” unless you’re planning on airing something like (like a presidential debate)

secondly, IT’S WHEN THE FRICKIN PLANE WAS SCHEDULED TO LAND AT DOVER, YOU NOOB.

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Chris Salzmann

October 29th, 2009
10:34 am

But he is returning the salute, as Joe stated.

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Kamchak

October 29th, 2009
10:45 am

Try to twist it if you like, but the Gallop poll (not affiliated with EITHER party) said the following recently:

40% of Americans interviewed in national Gallup Poll surveys describe their political views as conservative, 35% as moderate, and 21% as liberal. This represents a slight increase for conservatism in the U.S. since 2008, returning it to a level last seen in 2004.

I know this is hard for you to digest, so ignore it if you will.

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Marsh 10:18

Comprehend? You use a word like “that” as in “Did Shrub ever do that?” then label other people dense for not understanding precisely what you mean? Your restatement at 10:18 was not the same as your original question. And you talk about comprehension skills.
Sure hope you don’t supervise people at work…. maybe you write instruction manuals, eh?

Road Scholar 10:22

“The White House doesn’t schedule arrival times of military aircraft at Dover. They came on their own schedule,…”
How stupid do you think we are?]]

Ummm, you’re asserting the White House told the Air Force when to have the transport land at Dover? And you say they wanted a good photo op? So they picked midnight?

I think it more likely the White House military liason notified them of the flight arrival time, they went to it, and since the press knows the President’s daily schedule and incoming coffin arrival is no longer off limits, they went to get their story.
I think I’ll not answer your question….

Doggone/GA

Keep trying with the uniform education for the CiC. About the only president we’ve had show up in a uniform when he was president was… did Washington? Anyhow, ever notice how about the only heads of state who haven’t been in the military and wear uniforms and ribbons are buffoonish Central and South American and African dictators?

Kamchak 10::45

[[75% of Americans dislike themselves? ]]

Self loathing is treatable with therapy and drugs! I do find those sorts less irritating than the ones who truly love themselves, though.

Out for a while -

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Mrs. Godzilla

Save your pity for anyone who has lost their jobs because of the criminality of the idiot that YOU elected.

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Jimmy Carter

October 29th, 2009
10:49 am

It depends on what your definition of conservative is.

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“Why did he have to do this in the middle of the night?”

You OBVIOUSLY have NOT been paying attention. Here it is, nice and simple: he did it at night because THAT WAS WHEN THE PLANE LANDED

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What a thoroughly disgusting picture!! If he truly wanted to honor the fallen, he should have stayed home.

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NiF –

“Bush was a fighter pilot. Man, pick up a BOOK!”

ah. no he wasn’t. he never finished his training. nice try, though.

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Korean War – started by Democrat Truman

Yep, Truman led the North Korean’s over the 38th paralell and sacked South Korea

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FinnMcCool October 29th, 2009 10:42 am SAID: Pat writes And while you are trying to divvy who exactly did what and whether we should we go after the Taliban, they are torching UN establishments and killing Pakistani’s and Indians. I guess their lives don’t matter either, we should just pull out and let these murderous animals run amok and kill with out impediment

And after we kill all of them there will be no more bad guys, right? All anger will disappear from the face of the earth? Grow up. You can’t stop people from hating and killing.

CHRIS SAYS: Well said. You cannot solve all the world’s problems at the point of the gun. We already outnumber the Taliban by what, 12 to 1? So, if we outnumber them by 20-1, that’s somehow going to solve the problem? Remember Vietnam? The Generals kept pushing for more and more troops till we ended up with over 500,000 troops there. Did that help? Just because a General says so doesn’t mean diddly. Obama’s right to take anything he hears from the generals with a pinch of salt. This war will not be won by military means. Anyone who tells you otherwise is an idiot, even if he/she wears a general’s uniform.

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“Bush was a fighter pilot”

Yeah, and he was GOOD ONE too. I mean, Texas was never attacked while he was a pilot was it?

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the unmitigated ignorance of that statement has actually floored me.

I don’t think anybody anticipated that the sight of a black American leading men in uniform might make some white people a bit deranged.

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Bush was a fighter pilot, an extremely admired one…

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/04/08/con04334.htmlents here

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Jimmy Carter

October 29th, 2009
10:46 am

Need I go on? Only the last one is correct.

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dB –

honestly, I don’t think it’s a race thing … I just think that the election of a Democrat has pretty much let loose the hounds of stupid

(it could be ANY democrat – they’d be saying the same thing if it was Hill in the WH, with the additional snide comments about her looks, her hair, her shrillness and her cackle)

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Dangitt!! That’s what I get for moving too quick. Gotta make this quick, got a flight coming in.

Some of you will find anything and everything to b!tch about when it comes to Obama. Just give it a rest. Can the fallen have a moment. B!tch and moan tomorrow, but just give the fallen a day of respect, please. Is that too much to ask?

Jackie, Normal, and all who served in Vietnam. I wasn’t there then to welcome you home, but I welcome you home today with nothing but respect and admiration.

Gotta go. Someone might need to be kicked out of the country.

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“Leave it to you to drag it out yet again”

Remember what I said a few days ago about having to debunk the same things over and over and over?

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Matilda –

“May I quote you?”

I charge reasonable royalty rates

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“Someone might need to be kicked out of the country.”

and ABM’s just the man to do it! gooooooo ABM! (again, let me know if you need a list … )

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In the photograph, President Obama has a crisper salute than the soldier in the middle. Straight line from elbow to fingertips.

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All this gnashing of teeth and wailing over a photo op.

That’s right – a photo op.

Hope & Change’s approval numbers are dropping into the TaxCheat’s or AmVet’s IQ level, and he needs something to show his Commander-in-Chief chops to the dumb-masses. Even MSNBC reported that Bush never did anything like this, but rather quietly (and out of the public eye) contacted families of the slain service members.

Never liked Bush much at all, but even his “Mission Accomplished” photo-op used the living as props.

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I’m done trying to change the mind of wingnutters. I’ve settled on just having fun at their expense.

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(it could be ANY democrat – they’d be saying the same thing if it was Hill in the WH, with the additional snide comments about her looks, her hair, her shrillness and her cackle)

Dunno about any democrat–they might tolerate another good ol’ boy. maybe. (So long as he wasn’t named “John Edwards.) Otherwise, true enough.

Were it Hillary that’d won I’d have to snark with “I don’t think anybody anticipated that seeing a woman leading servicemen and women in uniform would case tiny-peenered little men to get a collective case of castration anxiety.”

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“Leave it to you to drag it out yet again”

Remember what I said a few days ago about having to debunk the same things over and over and over?

I know. It’s just crazy talk! Einstein is rolling over.

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“Now, how many deaths was Saddam Hussein responsible for? I truly don’t know and it doesn’t matter which one had the highest “death” count.”

you’re right, there was a huge difference between Bosnia and Iraq – we actually helped defend civilians in Bosnia whereas when Saddam was gassing his own civilians, we helped him cover it up and blamed Iran … ahhhh … the good old days

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dB –

“Dunno about any democrat–they might tolerate another good ol’ boy. maybe”

okay. I’ll bite. who? tell me ONE democrat that has received a nod of approval from the GOP/rightwingers. the only one I can think of is Joe Lieberman.

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“Einstein is rolling over.”

My favorite Einstein quote is: “if you write things down, you don’t have to remember them. You just have to remember where you wrote them down”

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“the only one I can think of is Joe Lieberman.”

But good ole Joe is not a Democrat any more, just ask him!

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tell me ONE democrat that has received a nod of approval from the GOP/rightwingers.

Ah have! Ever since Ah gave that Jean FRAUD Kerrah what fuh at the Republican Convention in two thousand and four in the year of our Lord!

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“My favorite Einstein quote is: “if you write things down, you don’t have to remember them. You just have to remember where you wrote them down”

LOL … oh, that’s brilliant.

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“oh, that’s brilliant.”

yeah, he had a lot of common sense…for a genius!

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“You libs need to stop attempting to hang the “war monger” monicker on the republicans”

Please quote where I ever said that. I’m not responsible for what other people say, only myself. And I can actually save you a lot of time: I never said anything remotely like that.

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Yo, Slow Jay: Urinal Scooped Again:

Birmingham, Ala., mayor convicted of taking bribes

Birmingham Mayor Larry Langford and wife Melva speak to the media after being convicted, Wednesday, Oct. 28, 2009 at the Tuscaloosa Federal Courthouse Building in Tuscaloosa, Ala. A federal jury convicted Birmingham Mayor Larry Langford on Wednesday on all charges of accepting bribes in exchange for funneling $7.1 million in bond business to a prominent investment banker. (AP Photo/The Tuscaloosa News, Dusty Compton) (Dusty Compton – AP)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/28/AR2009102804037.html?hpid=sec-politics

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Run Shrill Shirley, Run, the Feds are coming to git ya, imho.

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For all of you who are disgusted with President Obama honoring our fallen troops, this question: Why do you hate our troops?

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Yo Jay, why does the Urinal Constitution not have a special run on the conviction of the Black Mayor of Brimingham Alabama, with vendors out in the streets of Atlanta yelling to “Read all about it, Black Mayor convicted of Bribery”? Oh, that would be politically incorrect…no wonder circulation is dropping like a rock off of the roof of city hall east.

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Thanks for the response, Doggone/GA. I checked:

The Naval Officer’s Guide, Mack, W. P. and Paulsen, T. D., 10th edition, 1991

Army Officer’s Guide, Crocker, L. P., 46th edition, 1977

Naval Ceremonies, Customs, and Traditions, Mack, W. P., Connell, R. W., 1980

Service Etiquette, Swartz, O. D., 4th edition, 1988

and the only reference I could find is that when the President receives a salute, he is ‘expected’ to return it, but can choose to respond with a head nod or do nothing. That implies a rendering hand-over-heart salute in civvies, as opposed to returning a salute.

Where did you find that information?

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Marsh

October 29th, 2009
11:27 am

The same could be asked of the libs during W’s terms.

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“That’s all I’m doing about the “war monger” tag. Too bad it ticked you off”

But it didn’t “tick me off” – it amused me, greatly. Thank you for so eloquently PROVING my point. Your participation in the game is greatly appreciated.

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Doggone/GA

October 29th, 2009
11:34 am

Nah. Based on your terse statement, it DID tick you off. We have some nice parting gifts for you.

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USinUK

Not that it matters, but:
In May 1968, Bush was commissioned into the Texas Air National Guard.[28] After two years of active-duty service while training,[29] he was assigned to Houston, flying Convair F-102s out of Ellington Air Force Base. (Wikipedia)

F-102 was a real fighter, not a trainer.

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Marsh

October 29th, 2009
11:37 am

Wow, let’s get childish. Okay, I guess you can dish it but can’t take it? Let me guess, your dad can whip my dad, right? HAHAHAHAHAHA. How lame.

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Chris I was against the iraq war from the begining. You are making assumptions that you cannot back up. Saddam was controlable we didn’t need to blow him up.
Ah, but you want people who think differently from you to die..Typical liberal…You and Stalin are good bed buddies.

If you can’t beat’em kill’em.

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Mrs. Godawful

Bite me. You couldn’t care less about anyone who doesn’t agree with you.

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Too bad he didn’t honor them before they died.

Just sayin…..

And bookman, America can do anything it sets it’s national will to doing, and I remember from the kampaign that this war was a righteous battle to capture and defeat those who attacked our country without provocation.

Was all that talk just hot air?

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JC @ 11:40,

I just asked for an answer to my question. If you can’t, or don’t want to answer, that’s fine. Calm down, fella. But, yeah, my dad probably could whip your dad, and you, with one hand tied behind him. Well, if my dad were still alive, that is.

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WASHINGTON (AP) – An early progress report on President Barack Obama’s economic recovery plan overstates by thousands the number of jobs created or saved through the stimulus program, a mistake that White House officials promise will be corrected in future reports.

Now, what about all the mistakes in the health care legislation?

Do we have to wait on Fox to tell us?

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He has that empathy gene missing in the con dna.

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Geez! Kinda late now “Mr. President”.

During your campaign, Afghanistan was a convenient tool to get yourself elected. Now…while you dither, it’s a photo op?

Your domestic policy is in shambles, yet you conveniently place our troops on the back burner?

Get a clue….those troops are the insurance of our domestic front, you DoNothing DingleBarry.

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Oh the al qaeda attacked us we have nothing to fear from the taliban!!!

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125671554738112567.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLTopStories

Idiots

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Mrs G., USinUK, Marsh, and all of you other labled
“Librul” the rabid neo con show has begun. Go get your popcorn and beverage of your choice. Mrs G., I’ve got the mints. Let’s enjoy the show…

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Normal

October 29th, 2009
12:00 pm

Hey everyone, the “victim” nation is ready for a show!!

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I am glad he paid his respects, but he is disrespecting all those troops over in Afghanistan that need help and he is waiting, waiting, waiting, for something? He disrespects his Generals over there to. Get off Leno, the golf course, and fundraisers every week and get to work. Change in 2010 and 2012, Change we are looking forward to.

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I see that ole Eric Cantor wants to break out of that Party of No albatross that they have chosen to carry around since losing the White House too. Perhaps, he should start by just not saying no. Nah. Don’t change a thing. Your current message is working out just fine for the 19 percenters.

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Taxpayer

October 29th, 2009
12:01 pm

Nah, I’m good, Mr. 21 percenter.

Me a war monger? Nah. But you, Mr. 21 percenter, you are part of the “victim” nation. When something doesn’t work out your way, you’re a victim. I bet you just loooooove watching Oprah as she parades others of your ilk.

Me a war monger? Nah, I’m just the guy who started a business that enjoyed great growth, and eventually helped support over 150 families. I sold it earlier this year, and am now an “early” retiree.

Me a war monger? Nah, I’m just the guy who works hard and pays more than my share of taxes. You know, the money that enables you 21 percenters to decide if I made too much and who is more deserving of my money.

Me a war monger? Nah, I just enjoy being the daily “speed bump” to you libs. I really iritate the hell out of you, now don’t I? Hahahahahahaha!!

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USinUK

October 29th, 2009
12:03 pm

USinUK, Dan Rather…..Mr. Rather, USinUK. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Bush is gone. Get over it. Spend more of your time doing productive things on Al Gore’s invention, the internet. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

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“Where did you find that information?”

You’ve missed the point – which was not the salute, it was the lack of a uniform. There is no uniform for the President. And what you have posted has no bearing on the salute. Maybe it’s true (though you’ve only shown Naval documents) that he doesn’t HAVE to salute, but there’s nothing that says he CAN’T either.

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not jimmeh –

wow. so the national review is a left-wing rag, is it??? hahahahaha … thanks for the chuckle …

sooooo sad.

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USinUK

October 29th, 2009
12:14 pm

Are you ignorant or just plain stupid? You said “wow. so the national review is a left-wing rag, is it??? hahahahaha … thanks for the chuckle”.

Glad I can bring a chuckle to your day, but just where did I say ANYTHING about the National Review?

Hahahahaha. Thanks for the chuckle. Sooooo sad.

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USinUK

October 29th, 2009
12:16 pm

HAHAHAHAHA!! Still can’t connect the dots?? Where did I compare the National Review and Dan Rather? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

How’s the spleen?

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Doggone/GA

October 29th, 2009
12:17 pm

“your antena is picking giving you faulty signals.”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Your antenna must be disabled, much the same as your brain.

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not jimmeh –

“Still can’t connect the dots?? Where did I compare the National Review and Dan Rather?”

dot – I post a passage from the national review

dot – you say “USinUK, Dan Rather…..Mr. Rather, USinUK”

and my spleen is looking pink and lovely, thanks …

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Normal NIF

Stop screwing with the CIA, let them do their jobs. I can’t disagree with that either but evidently the administration does. Obama’s A.G. Holder wants to conduct investigations and prosecute CIA personnel. Joe Biden advocates on the side of a Special Operations strategy, however, the “Rules of Engagement” directives that are currently impeding and endangering our military are the same ones that restrict SOCOM troops. If we can’t provide the necessary support, we need to call it a day and suffer the longer term consequence and worse yet tell the families of those fallen that their loved one’s died in vain.

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TnG:

Shame on you! I thought you were bigger than that. Can’t you at least give him the benefit of a doubt?

I am giving him the benefit of the doubt. With each day that passes, I’m doubting he has what it takes to make the tough decisions. Here’s some of what he said during the campaign (to get himself elected).

“We’ve got to get the job done there and that requires us to have enough troops so that we’re not just air-raiding villages.”

“The Afghan government needs to do more. But we have to understand that the situation is precarious and urgent here in Afghanistan. And I believe this has to be our central focus, the central front, on our battle against terrorism,” Obama — CBS “Face the Nation”

So what’s changed since then, TnG?

Don’t talk to me about public opinion. Public opinion was against Bush’s war in Iraq, but still he moved forward, and Iraq is a relative success. What’s relative? The insurgents swarmed into Iraq to make their bones. Once the surge took effect, they were out of there into the vast unknown of what is Afghanistan/Pakistan.

He has two choices…either he’s gonna pursue the enemy (he said he was) or he’s not. Either decision comes with dire consequences. He needs to make one…not sit on his a$$ lookin’ “insightful”. He has no insight other than what can be seen by the Generals on the ground. They have spoken. Gates has spoken.

Who’s he listening to? Rahmbo, his political advisor. That oughta tell you what this “President” is all about.

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USinUK

What you conveniently omit by design or ignorance is that Bush had volunteered for Vietnam, however, by 1972 (actually well before) the call up for fighter pilots from the Guard and Reserves had diminished to zero. Bush wasn’t going anyway and didn’t plan on making the military a career. This tale about dodging service in Alabama was and is largely blown out of proportion. He left the Air National Guard on honorable conditions. Just a little inconvenient truth.

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‘Ya know Del, I’m thinking about using that old time-tested message for the “President”.

Shiite or get off the pot. I’m beginning to suspect he’s chillin’ on the weed while Afghanistan goes to seed.

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Jimmy Carter

October 29th, 2009
12:09 pm

Nah, You’re my sweet little war mongering 19 percenter that repeats him/her self when he/she gets ticked off.

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Taxpayer (aka Founder, Charter Member, and Chapter President of the 21% club)

October 29th, 2009
1:52 pm

Back at you Mr. 21 percenter. Where do you get 19%? Here’s how I back up my statement:

40% of Americans interviewed in national Gallup Poll surveys describe their political views as conservative, 35% as moderate, and 21% as liberal. This represents a slight increase for conservatism in the U.S. since 2008, returning it to a level last seen in 2004.

You’re a one-trick pony TP. Try another horse and make yourself relevant.

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S.A.: We cannot be the policeman of the world. Our nation is in shambles because of our adventurism abroad.

@@: Shiite or get off the pot. I’m beginning to suspect he’s chillin’ on the weed while Afghanistan goes to seed.

PLEASE……. –ummmmm….. just PLEASE!! Trying to be “hip” after 25 is soooo hard to do!! The best you can hope for is to wait until you’re 40 then you can kick it “old school” and be considered hip to the “youngsters”.

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Are we just to walk away and let the Taliban regain power? What a sad day that would be.

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Another day of the same rep-ugant and underachieving parasit dim-wit hate rhetoric. The subjects changes, thanks to Jay, but the hate rhetoric is always the same. I just wanted to comment that I think Lord Obozo finally got it right, just buy Afgan loyality! The plan has a proven history of success with the dem-wit parasites in the ole US of A.

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Yo Sam, lets hope your liberal black man as president does not make like a liberal black mayor and start taking bribes, see Mario Barry (he took his bribes in Crack, he he he), Bill Campbell, Langsford – All convicted felons.

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This needs to be brought up everyday 100 times until people understand that those bankers don’t produce money they just move it around (steal a little). We need people to produce something, you can not have a society of “money movers” you have to produce things. Businesses have to be forced to put thier profits back into the company, not take it for themselves. Do you know a small business in the US can have up to 999 employees and there are loop holes that allowes more? We are not a country of opportunity we are now SLAVES to a few aristocrats.

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