Ahmadinejad defends possible nuke deal

This is interesting, and even encouraging:

From the Washington Post:

“TEHRAN — President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad defended a possible compromise with world powers over a nuclear fuel deal Thursday as Iran formally responded to a U.N.-backed proposal aimed at stalling its ability to make nuclear weapons.

In a speech in the northeastern city of Mashhad, Ahmadinejad defied harsh criticism from domestic opponents who accused him of giving away too much in the negotiations. He said the West has been forced to alter its confrontational stance toward Iran, state television reported.

Under the proposed deal with the International Atomic Energy Agency, Iran would ship most of its stockpile of low-enriched uranium abroad for processing into medium-enriched uranium, which Iran needs to fuel a research reactor in Tehran that makes isotopes for medical uses. The fuel would come back to Iran in a form that could not be diverted to produce the highly enriched fissile material needed for nuclear weapons.”

The fact that Ahmadinejad feels it necessary to defend the pending deal in public suggests that he is at least serious about pursuing it. Why would he take the heat over a deal that he had no intention of concluding? As the Post reports, “If successful, the deal would likely be interpreted internationally as a goodwill sign by all involved parties and might lead to compromises over Iran’s nuclear program.”

But the situation is extremely complicated. Some of the strongest Iranian opposition to a nuclear deal comes from Ahmadinejad’s opponents in the recent fraudulent election, the heroic people who took to the streets in protest. The dissidents are using the nuclear issue to argue that it is the Ahmadinejad government, not the dissidents, who are betraying Iran to the West.

“The interesting part is that the revolutionary and serving sons of our nation are accused of relations and affiliations with the West, while they [government leaders] repeatedly and openly humiliate themselves in front of the U.S.,” said Hossein Mousavi, who came in second in the June 12 elections.

Like I said, complicated.

152 comments Add your comment

Taxpayer

October 29th, 2009
5:32 pm

Some of the strongest Iranian opposition to a nuclear deal comes from Ahmadinejad’s opponents in the recent fraudulent election, the heroic people who took to the streets in protest.

Outward appearances and all. Let’s just bomb them all and sort out the facts afterward. :roll:

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October 29th, 2009
5:33 pm

His opponent’s are probably mad because they know he will get the bomb for sure now and take Iran straight back to the dark ages, uh, Israeli attacks, not U.S.

I mean really, are we expecting the UN to step up? Like they did in Iraq?

bookman the left wing stooge falling for the rhetoric of a terrorist stooge, how unique.

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October 29th, 2009
5:36 pm

What ever happened to Neda?

Has she been conveniently used and now discarded?

For what, world posturing?

How weak, spineless.

josef nix

October 29th, 2009
5:38 pm

How could anybody anywhere take that fool seriously on anything?

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October 29th, 2009
5:43 pm

Great, here’s yosef nix making sense, maybe bookman has a point….

Gov Option Done Deal!

October 29th, 2009
5:47 pm

One thing you can take seriously is that nothing is going to stop Iran from making nuclear weapons. That Horsie sped out of the bar when Bush Condie werer drooling and clearing Brush.

Gov Option Done Deal!

October 29th, 2009
5:48 pm

Iran has the ability to make nuclear weapons and they will. Deal with it.

Gov Option Done Deal!

October 29th, 2009
5:50 pm

All the Repubos who are insurance company hookers would get an education reading this Breast Cancer patient blog. Two drugs in particular that can cost 200 grand a year or more, and are in a class of drugs called biologic drugs also used for RA (Rhematoid Arthritis), Chrohns Diseas. They treat metatastatic breast cancer and keep a large number of women alive. They are antibody receptor specific, so they do not destroy cells and cause the signficant side effects and discomfort of traditional chemothreapy.

http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/8/topic/730702?page=1#idx_16

Pelosi’s bill put up for whip count this morning with a 3PM deadline does not pay for these drugs, and the need for them can cause a woman to have to lose everything she owns and her home.

What often happens to these women is that when they run out of assets to liquidate, they die. The House Healthcare Bill sentences them to death.

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
5:53 pm

Complicated indeed. Is he a threat or just a lot of bluster? This latest posturing is certainly an improvement if sincere. The opposition is sounding more radical.

RIP Neda:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-iran-neda23-2009jun23,0,366975,full.story

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
5:55 pm

Gov Option Done Deal!

October 29th, 2009
5:47 pm

Do they even want to?

Gov Option Done Deal!

October 29th, 2009
5:55 pm

“Up to 5.7 million cases of H1N1 swine flu hit the United States between April and July, according to a new estimate from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.” That number is low because there is always low reporting of all criteria of cases in a flu pandemic.

There is now growing H1N1 Tamiflu and Relenza resistance and several pigs have been ID’d with Oink 1.

A big shouut out to conservative websites who are stupidly recommending a possible way to lose some of their readers and teabaggers who are stupidly refusing vaccine for themselves and their children.

Gov Option Done Deal!

October 29th, 2009
5:57 pm

@Amvet–

The government of Quam Mullahs sure as hell does and they will. The 2/3 of people under 30 who are very pro-Western don’t run the country but they could end the Mullahs if they wanted to or replace them.

So the answer is they want to and they will and we can’t stop them. Bush ignored Iran for 8 years at the US’s peril.

Gov Option Done Deal!

October 29th, 2009
5:59 pm

This is simplicstic but I wouldn’t trust anything President A says. And right now he has the support of the Ayatollahs.

Pogo

October 29th, 2009
6:00 pm

If you believe this you also believe that the Healthcare debacle is going to be “cost neutral” and “self paying”. Supplying him with “Medium Grade” uranium just saves him from performing that particular step in the uranium cycle to create “high grade” uranium himself. Are the UN and the IAEA that stupid? I think the answer to this is, yes. If Jay sees this as a postive step then he is more far gone than I thought he was. There is no form that “medium grade” uranium cannot be converted to “high grade” (bomb grade) uranium. Uranium Oxide can be extracted and can be concentrated from the yellow cake stage to the bomb grade phase no matter what matrix it is in. One only needs the centrifugal and extraction technology, which Iran has, to do this. Even if “medium grade” is supplied, after the fission process, it is only a matter of time before the maniac begins extracting plutonium and tritium which can be used in bombs. Unbelievable.

josef nix

October 29th, 2009
6:01 pm

TnGelding–

Thanks for the reminder. That is a murderous regime. If they will do that to their own people what will they do to others?

Gov Option Done Deal!

October 29th, 2009
6:05 pm

What Repubos never want to talk about is that the money hemorrhage in the stupid debacle/fiasco in Iraq that has produced trillions spent and tons of money hemorrhage on groups like Blackwater was anything but deficit neutral.

Afghanistan is 30% more expensive per troop.

And as to healthcare, CBO has said existing bills are deficit neutral and they’ll score Pelosi’s imperfect bill that doesn’t eover enough.

None of the goofy things Bush did was deficit neutral. They were money hemorrhage out the wazoo.

However you do the nuclear isotope analysis, Iran will get weapons grade uranium and soon.

F. Sinkwich

October 29th, 2009
6:06 pm

Another Iranian stalling tactic which will be enthusiastically embraced by our limp-wristed President as proof of the success of his apology tour and kumbaya diplomacy.

The world laughs at us now. The bad guys know we are weaklings on the world stage.

Pathetic.

Gov Option Done Deal!

October 29th, 2009
6:12 pm

Considering Obama gets Israeli intelligence, anyone who thinks Obama is going to accept anything Ahmadinejad says is delusional, and makes comments like that because it makes them feel good. It’s exaclty like the Faux Noise blonds and the unemployed alcoholic facebooktress.

md

October 29th, 2009
6:14 pm

Always have to enjoy the “they did it so we can too” argument. As we go bankrupt, does it matter in the end how we got there. I don’t think so.

The facts as of today – we are in deep debt and spending will not solve the problem, no matter who did or is going to do the spending.

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October 29th, 2009
6:16 pm

Oh my, check this out-

President Obama and members of Congress told federal agencies earlier this year to avoid awarding funds under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act to contractors with troubled histories of work for the federal government.

But that isn’t happening at numerous agencies, a Washington Post analysis shows. So far, 33 federal departments and agencies have awarded more than $1.2 billion in stimulus contracts to at least 30 companies that are ranked by one watchdog group as among the most egregious offenders of state and federal laws.

Government records show that as a group, these contractors have sold defective products, manufactured safety tests, submitted false travel claims and padded contracts with fraudulent fees.-WaPo

Remember all the crap Bush got from these turd blossom’s about Haliburton and toys from China, and blah, balh, blah?

Turn’s out, first chance the democrats get, they hook these same lowlifes up with billions of tax payer money.

mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

md

October 29th, 2009
6:16 pm

Iran has sat back and watched NK play their little game with the west for years now. Anyone not think they didn’t learn something from that.

F. Sinkwich

October 29th, 2009
6:22 pm

Hey, Option, didn’t you hear the part where he said he would sit down with this lunatic and make nice? Did you see how he refused to encourage the freedom-yearning opposition to this Holocaust-denying terrorist after the Iranian “elections.”

Guess not.

Oh, and Obama thinks Israel is the problem in the Middle East, not the terrorists. Do you really think he’d pay attention to “Israeli Intelligence?”

You aren’t old enough to vote, are you?

Scary.

Gov Option Done Deal!

October 29th, 2009
6:23 pm

The number of Repubos afraid to debate Rachel Madow is growing. Leiberschmutz won’t. Little Dickia Cheny won’t.

Pogo proclaimed the healthcare bill wasn’t deficit neutral, and in fact the one the House released today. It costs the government $894 billion over 10 years, according to CBO, and it reduces the deficit in a twenty-year window. The financing is mainly through a tax on millionaires. Certain measures on doctor reimbursement and filling the prescription drug “doughnut hole” could push the price tag to $1 trillion. 96% of Americans would be covered under the bill.

All the Repubos here are used to making cost analyses with nothing to back them up. The bill is here that the CBO scored as reducing the deficit over 20 years:

http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf

The House ignored the Obama Big Pharma agreement that gives the pharmaceutical companies a huge windfall and doesn’t fix the Medicare Part D donut.

Many House progressives won’t vote for this.

The public option in the house bill is weaker than most people want, because it relies on negotiated rates which the insurnace companies and their Blue Dog and Repubozo hookers want, rather than a Medicare based +5% rate.

Taxpayer

October 29th, 2009
6:33 pm

So, good ole Boehner has been yammering on with his speel about how the Dems won’t post the Healthcare bill on line. Well, someone needs to write him a dear John. It’s posted. But, when dear John is asked to reciprocate, what does he do. What else. He just says no. Who could have seen that one coming. Apparently not, Eric. He was whining recently about how his party’s just say no approach to everything isn’t such a good idea (I wonder what finally convinced him.). Sounds like they need to get together over a beer and figure out a better coordination of attacks or something. No wonder the Taliban kicked their buttocks all over Afghanistan. You have to study the situation and plan — not make rash decisions and shoot from the hip. Not to worry. The Dems have it under control. The Republicans can go back to doing what they do best, nothing but saying no. hehehe

F. Sinkwich

October 29th, 2009
6:38 pm

Option: “It costs the government $894 billion over 10 years…the financing is mainly through a tax on millionaires.”

Yep, let’s crater the eeeevil rich! Let’s take their money at the point of a gun, then tar and feather them and run them out of town!!!!

I realize you’ve never had a job, Option, but you should know that a poor person will never hire anyone.

Why are you so envious of those who achieve to the point you think you know how to spend their money better than they do?

Please do yourself a favor and realize that you’re a loser because of the choices you made in your life, not because of “the man.” That’s a much healthier perspective, and you’ll be a happier person.

You are certainly welcome.

AmVet

October 29th, 2009
6:42 pm

Yeah, like the world didn’t “laugh at us” when “the bad guys” knew we were weaklings on the world stage on 9/11/01, huh F. Stinkwich?

Your stiff-wristed strongman GWB sure scared the hell out of and deterred the hell out of them didn’t he?

And as I have noted before, you can’t carry Herschel’s jockstrap…

F. Sinkwich

October 29th, 2009
6:52 pm

AmVet: “you can’t carry Herschel’s jockstrap…”

No one can.

Last I heard, we haven’t been attacked here since then. I happen to believe that the nut-case in Iran would be much less belligerent with the “cowboy” in charge willing to unleash the wrath of the US military, which thanks to his vision, is just next door in Iraq.

But I guess you libs are just fine with a nuclear Iran. I’m not, and neither are others who love freedom.

But thanks for your input.

Taxpayer

October 29th, 2009
6:53 pm

Mmmmmmmm! The smell of fresh bologna in the virtual air.

AmVet

October 29th, 2009
7:02 pm

Last I heard, we haven’t been attacked here since then.

So you’re thanking Obama?

After all, he’s gone longer without an attack on American soil than the Hero of the Texas ANG did.

All you right-wingers blustering about a nuclear Iran is to me hysterical.

I know my tribe is poised a few hundred miles away.

And in some ways even I’manutjob is smarter than you conned. He knows any aggression means instant annihilation coming at him from every corner (for you flat earthers) of the planet.

Wake up.

Chinas’ had them since 1964. India since 1974. Pakistan since 1998. And NK since 2006.

PLEASE, PLEASE don’t tell me you fell for Captain Stupid’s “Knowing these realities, America must not ignore the threat gathering against us. Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof — the smoking gun — that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud.”

Oh, you did.

What’s left to say?

Taxpayer

October 29th, 2009
7:04 pm

Earlier this month, Fox’s Greta van Susteren asked Boehner why House Republicans didn’t push for transparency when they were in power. “It was a different time,” Boehner said in response.

It’s clear why Republicans have been insisting on having as much time as possible to read the bill. As Sen. Pat Roberts (R-KS) explained, health insurance lobbyists need to be given “at least 72 hours” so they can try to kill the legislation.

Those Republicans! They’re a laugh a minute. Yet, they still have their loyal 19 percent. hehehe

Gov Option Done Deal!

October 29th, 2009
7:07 pm

The great thing about people like Boehner is they always tell the truth. But you have to always reverse whatever they say to get it.

Gov Option Done Deal!

October 29th, 2009
7:10 pm

We haven’t gotten attacked since the Obamas got Bo is about as valid as we haven’t been attacked since 911. I always consider we got attacked becaue Bush and Condi were so lazy and stupid. Condi refused to order translation of a kazillion intercepts and Bush CIA took the hijackers who were all on it off the watch list where they would have been picked up when they came into US airports.

These people who want to launch an attack aren’t the type that go into a depression if they can’t watch Dancing with the Stars for a week. They’re willing to wait many many years to get it right.

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October 29th, 2009
7:12 pm

I don’t remember China, India, Pakistan and North Korea supplying whackjob terrorists with everything they need like Iran has.

Nor have they stated that they would like to wipe another country from the map.

It’s cool as long as someone else is getting slaughtered, right, AmWet?

Taxpayer

October 29th, 2009
7:17 pm

First, who has Iran attacked? Second, who has attacked Iran?

AmVet

October 29th, 2009
7:18 pm

“It’s cool as long as someone else is getting slaughtered, right, AmWet?”

When it’s you conned at the polls, you’re damn straight, duhng. I love it.

Go sell Iran-stupid to some other Ronnie the Dictator’s Best Friend arsekisser…

F. Sinkwich

October 29th, 2009
7:19 pm

“Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof — the smoking gun — that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud.”

Thanks AmVet. I almost forgot that wonderful and inspirational call to action. In a different time, it could have been uttered by our founding fathers.

American exceptionalism may be under attack by the Whitehouse, but it is alive and and will endure.

The world has never seen such greatness, and it behooves all who believe in individual freedom to perpetuate its magnificent existence.

We’ll get through Obama. After all, we survived Carter and became even stronger.

Keep smiling!

@@

October 29th, 2009
7:19 pm

Complicated. Naahhhh, familiar.

Those demanding change have now reverted to the status quo.

For my STRATFOR “Fans” — First, Iran’s goal in these negotiations is not to scuttle the talks, but rather to delay them. Iran’s appearance of cooperation and positive remarks from the latest visit by the IAEA inspectors did not produce conclusive results, but rather gave the impression that some sort of progress, however slow and steady, is being made.

Second, in shipping out their LEU to another country (likely Russia), the Iranians will not be getting most of their own uranium back. Under the proposed amendment, they would be sending out less of their LEU at one time for a more highly enriched uranium that is designed purely for energy generation.

Some of their resources, but not all of their resources. Pilfering a little time to improve on their own enrichment capabilities.

The only thing we’ve got going for us is the Kremlin wars taking place in Moscow. The Bear will be hibernating.

It’s absolutely uncanny how Putin’s economic moves are mirroring Obama’s.

md

October 29th, 2009
7:23 pm

“First, who has Iran attacked?”

Technically – no one. By proxy – Isreal – Twice.

Gov Option Done Deal!

October 29th, 2009
7:26 pm

Pakistan has been very supportive to terrorists and most of Pakistan would celebrate if a bomb wiped out Congress and the White House or the population of a city. And with some degree of control or not they have nukes.

The majority of Pakistanis hate Americans and would be delighted to see them dead.

AmVet

October 29th, 2009
7:27 pm

Frankie, are you related to Wyld Byll?

You guys both pontificate that same fogged out, altered reality gibberish.

Sounds just like David Koresh channeling Spiro Agnew.

Or maybe it’s just Jimmy Swaggert.

Whatever, it is immensely entertaining…

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October 29th, 2009
7:29 pm

Observers say Iran had prior knowledge of Hezbollah attacks, such as the 1988 kidnapping and murder of Colonel William Higgins, a U.S. Marine involved in a UN observer mission in Lebanon, and the 1992 and 1994 bombings of Jewish cultural institutions in Argentina.

U.S. officials say Iran supported the group behind the 1996 truck bombing of Khobar Towers, a U.S. military residence in Saudi Arabia, which killed nineteen U.S. servicemen.

CNN reports that American military investigators believe the January 20th attack on a military compound that killed five US soldiers may have either been conducted by Iran or by Iranian-run insurgents. The level of sophistication in the attack, conducted by terrorists in American military uniforms, showed too much sophistication to have originated from one of the native insurgencies.

American and Iraqi military forces have repeatedly claimed to have uncovered evidence that Iran is supplying both Sunni and Shia insurgent groups in Iraq with various munitions. Operations in Basra and Baghdad’s Sadr City slum in recent weeks have allegedly uncovered Iranian weapons manufactured as recently as this year, which would seem to preclude Iranian weapons having been obtained on the black market. Instead, it suggests the direct supply of belligerents inside Iraq with Iranian weaponry by the Iranian military with the knowledge of the Iranian government.

Giggle it up, AmWet, snicker, snicker, haha.

Real funny.

Taxpayer

October 29th, 2009
7:32 pm

Reagan was pretty handy with the proxy too as I recall.

F. Sinkwich

October 29th, 2009
7:33 pm

You’re welcome, AmVet. Glad that you’re amused by truth, justice, and the American way.

I don’t know Wyld.

By the way, are you French? You kinda sound like it.

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
7:40 pm

Gov Option Done Deal!

October 29th, 2009
7:10 pm

And rest assured they are out there waiting. The only questions are how many, how, where and when?

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October 29th, 2009
7:40 pm

Speaking of the IRS, apparently its own staff couldn’t help but notice this opportunity to snag an easy $8,000. One day after explaining to Congress how many “home-buyers” were climbing aboard this gravy train, Mr. George appeared on Neil Cavuto’s program on the Fox Business Network. Mr. George said his staff has found at least 53 cases of IRS employees filing “illegal or inappropriate” claims for the credit. “In all honesty this is an interim report. I expect that the number would be much larger than that number,” he said.

The program is set to expire at the end of November, so naturally given its record of abuse, Congress is preparing to extend it.

You’re in good hands with mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

Taxpayer

October 29th, 2009
7:43 pm

I wonder if Iran supplied those folks with the American weapons that Reagan gave them. Now, that would be a bit of irony.

AmVet

October 29th, 2009
7:44 pm

No, Frankie, mother was a German Jew. Dad was from Bogalusa, Louisiana.

Your buddies with the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei took my grandfather, a small town lawyer, away but inexplicably let him go back to Freiburg.

Where he, his wife (a woman dentist in the 1930s) and their only child fled with ten Deutchmarks to their name through Switzerland and your hated France to get to England where they were put in a camp and treated like dogs.

My grandfather died a bellhop in London.

But thanks for asking…

BTW, nice use of a comic book slogan to denote your comic book like worldview…

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
7:44 pm

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October 29th, 2009
7:40 pm

I’d think you’d be estactic they were caught. Let’s see what happens to them.

md

October 29th, 2009
7:44 pm

Godd,

You are showing your partisanship again. Please don’t forget that the hijackers had come and gone under Clinton before they came back again. Sounds to me as if everybody was asleep at the switch.

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
7:45 pm

AmVet

October 29th, 2009
7:44 pm

Lord, have mercy on our souls.

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
7:48 pm

md

October 29th, 2009
7:44 pm

Was anybody even at the switch? Why weren’t the airlines’ boarding procedures ever questioned? More than one of the evil-doers were flagged by the CRS and questioned before being allowed to board.

Taxpayer

October 29th, 2009
7:50 pm

Those Republican-sponsored programs such as Isakson’s $8000 taxpayer giveaway (although he wanted $15,000) sure are popular. I’d bet that it will even cost us taxpayers more than those clunkers that folks like @@ cashed in on, while complaining about Obama’s programs all the way to the bank. :roll:

Republicans! They’re a real hoot! You would think that the least they would want to do is fund their own taxpayer dollar giveaways or at least not complain about them. Nah. That wouldn’t fit with the just say no strategy. By the way, how’s that workin’ for ya. hehehe

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
7:52 pm

Taxpayer

October 29th, 2009
7:50 pm

Screw the government!

md

October 29th, 2009
7:58 pm

” More than one of the evil-doers were flagged by the CRS and questioned before being allowed to board.”

Remember Tn, up until then, hijackings were bad, but usually ended up in Cuba with few problems. Never again, at least until the current generations die off.

F. Sinkwich

October 29th, 2009
7:58 pm

AmVet, sorry to about those atrocities. You certainly have reason to appreciate the freedoms this country affords, not only domestically, but around the world.

I think you’re mistaken about my “buddies” though.

Was that a shot?

F. Sinkwich

October 29th, 2009
7:59 pm

They are not my buddies.

AmVet

October 29th, 2009
8:09 pm

FS, it was a low blow. And unnecessary.

I apologize.

I love this country. It has afforded me everything I have. Even my very life.

And I still get choked up when I think of those rangers and marines who scaled those cliffs in Normandy and who took those islands in the Pacific to free my people and millions around the globe.

I enlisted at the age of 17 (during a disastrous war in the jungle) partially to say thank you to them and partially to do my duty. And I still take that sacred oath I took in Denver seriously.

I didn’t even believe in the war, but wanted to do my part. And build a future.

My son enlisted two years ago.

(I guess we’re just a bunch of dumba__es, huh? Grin…)

Again, my apologies.

I linked it earlier but it bears repeating:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYBSvn5juIk

Taxpayer

October 29th, 2009
8:15 pm

The covert Bush administration program that used retired military analysts to generate favorable wartime news coverage may not have been terminated, Raw Story has found.

In interviews, Pentagon officials in charge of the press and community relations offices — which worked in partnership on the military analyst program — equivocated on the subject of whether the program has ended.

Are they gonna send Ollie to Afghanistan.

F. Sinkwich

October 29th, 2009
8:17 pm

AmVet, my respects. I have relatives who fought and died for this great country too.

Best wishes to your son.

Peace.

@@

October 29th, 2009
8:21 pm

Taxpayer:

Geez! I said thank you, didn’t I?

You’d think I’d taken your very last dime.

Just following Obama’s lead…doing my best to stimulate the economy with your money. Isn’t that what you voted for.

Don’t blame me, blame your mouthpiece.

Huummmmmmmmm

Crybaby!

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October 29th, 2009
8:25 pm

Peggy Noonan is back in the fold-

When I see those in government, both locally and in Washington, spend and tax and come up each day with new ways to spend and tax—health care, cap and trade, etc.—I think: Why aren’t they worried about the impact of what they’re doing? Why do they think America is so strong it can take endless abuse?

We are governed at all levels by America’s luckiest children, sons and daughters of the abundance, and they call themselves optimists but they’re not optimists—they’re unimaginative. They don’t have faith, they’ve just never been foreclosed on. They are stupid and they are callous, and they don’t mind it when people become disheartened. They don’t even notice.

And they are self obsessed power mongers, I rule.

They don’t care about this great country, they care about themselves.

Gimme, gimme, gimme, like any small child.

@@

October 29th, 2009
8:31 pm

YIKES!

Detroit, Michigan (CNN) — At least five men are scheduled to appear in federal court Thursday, a day after they were arrested in FBI raids targeting an African-American Muslim group that the FBI says sought to establish an Islamic state in the United States, federal authorities said.

Luqman Ameen Abdullah, the alleged leader of the African-American Muslim converts, was fatally shot during one of Wednesday’s raids in the Detroit area after he fired at law enforcement agents who were trying to arrest him and four other suspects. An FBI dog was also killed.

Ummah refers to the nationwide group to which the suspects belonged, according to the complaint. The group is made up of mostly African-Americans, including some who converted to Islam while in prison.

Ummah is led by Jamil Abdullah al-Amin, formerly known as H. Rap Brown, a 1960s radical and former member of the Black Panthers who once said “violence was as American as cherry pie.” He is serving a life sentence in Colorado’s Supermax prison for killing two Georgia police officers.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/10/29/michigan.fbi.arrests/

Ummah is led by some guy in a supermax prison!!?!!

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October 29th, 2009
8:36 pm

By the way, Hairy Reed and Nasty Pelosi have blown their last wad over health care, one final gush of hot, filthy air, now it can creep off into the ash heap of history, mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

Normal

October 29th, 2009
8:37 pm

Ain’t gonna be no stinkin’ nuclear holocaust…My seven year old Granddaughter just made the soccer all stars for her age group as Goalie…

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Ate Up With Envy mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

October 29th, 2009
8:40 pm

Remember where you heard it first, this public option is just a ruse-

If Mr. Reid had pulled the plug on the public option, these highly unpopular policy issues would be front and center. As it is, the public-option sideshow is sucking up all the air, and will continue to. It even overshadowed liberal divisions, such as union pushback on Cadillac-plans taxes. Maybe, just maybe, Mr. Reid likes it that way.-WSJ

Am I not the man?

@@

October 29th, 2009
8:43 pm

So far, the public appears to be supportive of the army, and impatient with the militants, though

That ^^^ kinda sounds like we, conservatives, and

many Pakistanis ask whether a foreign hand, meaning the United States or India, are behind the militants.

That ^^^ kinda sounds like you far left-wingers. And, again?

Most common is a sense of patriotism toward the military, and fury at the weak civilian government and its anemic police forces for failing to stop the horrendous destruction.

That ^^^ sounds like we, conservatives.

“The blitz they inflict on us may be awful but we must show our resolve, our unwillingness to be cowed, and say ‘No, you shall not pass, neither shall we give you relief… now get you hence, Beast, because this is our land, not yours,” An editorial in The News, a prominent English-language newspaper, read Thursday.

Resolve? We could use a little more of that here in the U.S.of A.

Best of luck to General Kayani and Pakistan’s army.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/30/world/asia/30pstan.html

Marsh

October 29th, 2009
8:49 pm

Boehner’s empty talk on health reform

Let’s give it up for Boner!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoRKG8iR19g&feature=player_embedded

Taxpayer

October 29th, 2009
8:55 pm

Just following Obama’s lead…doing my best to stimulate the economy with your money. Isn’t that what you voted for.

Let’s see how quickly you start complaining when those Bush tax hikes kick in. By the way, it’s not just my money. I would have charged you interest if it were.

@@

October 29th, 2009
9:07 pm

Taxpayer:

I was anticipating tax hikes…Obama’s. Why do you think I took it while the taking was good.

Besides, we helped that poor landscaper and his family. Surely you cared about them. Obama didn’t.

Probably didn’t do much for the environment though.

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
9:15 pm

AmVet

October 29th, 2009
8:09 pm

I salute you sir and your son as well. Thanks for your service.

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
9:17 pm

Taxpayer

October 29th, 2009
8:15 pm

What about Levenworth instead?

godless heathen

October 29th, 2009
9:18 pm

I read the 60 Minutes report (yes, read. I missed the show) on Medicare fraud and how easy it is for doctors and medical suppliers to steal from the government. Now I know why a certain frequent poster here is so absolutely giddy about a Public Option. It is a lot easier to bilk the government for dubious tests and procedures than it is to bilk private insurance companies that actually care about the bottom line.

It appears that there is nothing that many doctors would want more than to submit claims to a bloated government agency that has no time or incentive to review charges submitted. These docs will form more LLCs to buy more MRI machines that they will refer every hangnail to, and form more medical supply companies. Is the government going to deny a fat-ass welfare recipient a new motorized wheel chair? Maybe the moniker should be changed to “Public Option a Good Deal (for me and my buddies)”

Taxpayer

October 29th, 2009
9:20 pm

@@,

you can hardly describe youself as a conservative given your need to feed at the public trough. I’d say war mongering liberal would be a more accurate description.

Taxpayer

October 29th, 2009
9:25 pm

I was anticipating tax hikes…Obama’s.

Well, as usual, you anticipated wrong. They’re Bush’s tax hikes because that’s what the Republican Congress gave him to sign off on and he did. Now, you and yours, all 19 percent of you, get to pay it back. I don’t pay fed taxes, remember. I’m a Democrat so I get to live off the wealthy every day. hehehe

@@

October 29th, 2009
9:26 pm

Taxpayer:

We’ve put far more into that trough than we’ve taken from it. Haven’t claimed deductions in the last 15, maybe 18 years.

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National Security Advisor Gen. Jones and Israel’s former Foreign Minister Livni in a joint sit down with Moscow. At the same time, Defense Minister Ehud Barak was sitting down with leaders in Central Europe. Then there were talks between Israel and France.

Meanwhile, in the Mediterranean, Israel and the U.S. are conducting large and complex BMD exercises.

Sounds ominous, don’t it?

Keep your eyes opened on our domestic front. Will we be tapping into the SPR?

godless heathen

October 29th, 2009
9:28 pm

So Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin (former H Rap Brown), convicted cop killer, is leading a violent Muslim separatist sect from his cell at Supermax, a federal facility in Colorado known as the country’s most secure. (according to the feds, reported by Christian Boone in the AJC, 10/29/09)

Brings two causes of the liberals forth for consideration. 1) The Death Penalty and 2) Obama’s plan to close Gitmo

@@

October 29th, 2009
9:34 pm

I’m a Democrat so I get to live off the wealthy every day.

And what do you say to the nice lady, Taxplayer?

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
9:38 pm

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Ate Up With Envy mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

October 29th, 2009
8:25 pm

They’re power mongers, but you rule? Who’s the bigger monger?

I agree with her that they are unimaginative. I’d even settle for a little innovation. Was she singling out Democrats?

AmVet

October 29th, 2009
9:42 pm

TnGelding and FS. thank you.

Colonel North is an unindicted criminal. Who worked for criminals.

He/they only avoided doing time by lying, er forgetting, to a gutless Democratic congress.

Fitting that he is now a talking head darling of the criminal-coddling right wing, isn’t it?

Shameless and a disgrace to the uniform.

Why and when did the GOP turn away from being “tough on crime”?

Taxpayer

October 29th, 2009
9:49 pm

@@

October 29th, 2009
9:34 pm
I’m a Democrat so I get to live off the wealthy every day.

And what do you say to the nice lady, Taxplayer?

I tell my wife I love her all the time. As for the 19 percenters, I tell them to get ready to pay because the full cost of the Bush years will be felt by them soon enough. And, I hear the IRS is even adding on some more audits to make sure more rich folks pay their fair share. After all, wars and prescription drug programs and ag bills and F-22s and such cost money, lots of tax money, plus interest.

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
9:50 pm

@@

October 29th, 2009
8:31 pm

By way of the White House, I’m sure.

Hats off to the FBI if the charges stick.

“African-American Muslims question leader’s death”

The death of Luqman Ameen Abdullah – the Muslim leader shot dead Wednesday by FBI agents after he allegedly first opened fire – was mourned and criticized today by some African-American Muslims in metro Detroit and across the U.S.

http://www.freep.com/article/20091029/NEWS01/91029049/-1/rss07

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
9:52 pm

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Ate Up With Envy mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

October 29th, 2009
8:40 pm

You are indeed the biggest power monger of them all, said the mirror on the wall.

Dusty

October 29th, 2009
9:52 pm

@@ ….. 8:43,,,you wrote:

“Resolve? We could use a little more of that in the USA.”

We certainly could. Some call that “rah rah” stuff! I was disgusted when liberals began their “confessions” of how they felt about the Pledge of Allegience back a couple a blogs . To be specific, the one about the President going to Dover when the coffins were coming in.

Doggone @ 9:10 am had to tell us “I don’t salute the flag and I don’t pledge allegience.”

USinUK was so pleased with that she threw in a little profanity @9:33 saying “I really don’t give a g..d… if someone says the pledge of allegience.” Of course, then they threw in how important it was to support the country.

I find that very strange support. I assume this is the liberal way to support America.. Maybe they could start the Rah Rah Party. With that kind of allegience, who needs enemy propaganda to undermine us.. We furnish our own.

Linda

October 29th, 2009
9:56 pm

TnGelding, 9:38 I’ve already brought it to your attention that it’s difficult to read your posts because you keep inserting the date & the time. Everyone knows the date. When you submit you comments, the time is recorded. It also shows how long it takes you to write your comments. The one above shows it took you an hour & 13 mins. to write 30 words. Let up. I don’t mean any disrespect if you’re having problems. I apologize if that’s the case.

godless heathen

October 29th, 2009
9:56 pm

>>And, I hear the IRS is even adding on some more audits to make sure more rich folks pay their fair share.<<

Audits of Obama appointees and Democratic Congress Critters would be a good place to start.

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
9:57 pm

@@

October 29th, 2009
9:26 pm

Did you mean haven’t itemized deductions but just took the standard deduction?

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
9:58 pm

@@

October 29th, 2009
9:26 pm

I hope so. What a boondoggle.

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
10:01 pm

Linda

October 29th, 2009
9:56 pm

That was on another blog. I’m not the only one that does it here. But I’ll try to break the habit and learn HTML.

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
10:04 pm

Taxpayer

October 29th, 2009
9:49 pm

Good news on the IRS hiring more auditors. Now if the rest of the departments will take the cue and hire more agents to crack down on waste, fraud and abuse.

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
10:07 pm

godless heathen

October 29th, 2009
9:56 pm

Amen! Good one. Just get started, that’s all that matters. Revenue is down a suspicious amount.

RW-(the original)

October 29th, 2009
10:07 pm

Day after day, night after night the ignorance abounds. Not only was Ollie North indicted he was indicted on 16 felony counts and convicted on 3 of those however his convictions were overturned when it was determined that evidence was used that violated his immunity agreement.

That’s the way the law works in the land of the free but I guess some just can’t handle freedom.

Dusty

October 29th, 2009
10:07 pm

Poor Taxpayer,

“Bush years”.! Bush did it! Coming up soon: Bush stole my Halloween candy!! .

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
10:09 pm

Dusty

October 29th, 2009
10:07 pm

Who dat?

TnGelding

October 29th, 2009
10:11 pm

Dinner time. Thanks for the opportunity to comment.

@@

October 29th, 2009
10:11 pm

‘Ya know Taxpayer, it’s kinda sad that you think of me and my husband as rich. We’re about as middle-class as they come. We just chose to be frugal.

Thanks to Obama, our daughter will have no choice. His outrageous spending will render her poor from the get-go. Gawd luv her….she had such bright hopes for her future. Put a lot into preparing for it, she did.

TnG:

By all accounts they were a bunch of petty criminals. Their leader…Mr. Brown, now known as Jamil Abdullah al-Amin, said, at one time, that his dream was to unleash a dirty bomb on some unknown city. Twenty-four like-minded sects exist across the U.S.. The F.B.I. is investigating a shooting in California today, thinking it could be related.

Don’t go losing sleep over it though.

Dusty:

…and to the Republic for which it stands…

Do you think they at least stand?

When I see the flag, I see men who sacrificed. If they’re not owed our allegiance, I don’t know what is.

Taxpayer

October 29th, 2009
10:12 pm

Audits of Obama appointees and Democratic Congress Critters would be a good place to start

Well, I hear the focus will be on the more wealthy so I don’t know if that rules out those that you are concerned about or not. I wouldn’t know because I’m just one of the lowly Democrats that sits around waiting for his entitlements. The Republicans have told me that for so long, I just assume it must be the truth. I can live with that.

@@

October 29th, 2009
10:17 pm

TnG:

Sorry. That’s what I meant to say. We don’t itemize.

Taxpayer

October 29th, 2009
10:18 pm

‘Ya know Taxpayer, it’s kinda sad that you think of me and my husband as rich. We’re about as middle-class as they come. We just chose to be frugal

Actually, I don’t think about you and your husband’s wealth at all. I just care about your tax dollars. I’m entitled to them because I’m a Democrat and that’s what I believe. At least, that what you Republicans have led me to believe so it must be true. And, middle class folks do want to pay for the Bush wars and the tax cuts for the wealthy and the F-22s and the prescription drug program and the ag bill and the interest on all that borrowed money and TARP, don’t they.

Taxpayer

October 29th, 2009
10:24 pm

@@,

As for your daughter’s future, you now have even more reason to think more of Bush and his deferred payment plan that he dumped on you and yours. Have fun with that. Just remember to pay your taxes though because I’m entitled to a cut. I’m a Democrat. Don’t worry though. Dusty has to pay too. So, you’re not alone.

Dusty

October 29th, 2009
10:25 pm

Taxpayer confesses:

“I’m just one of the lowly Democrats that sits around waiting for his entitlements.”

Good step, Taxpayer. ‘Tis said that confessions are good for the soul. Do you feel better?