Yikes! Newt Gingrich making sense!?!?
These are frightening words to type, but … Newt Gingrich and I agree with each other.
Talking to Greta van Susteren last night on Fox, the former speaker noted that Dede Scozzafava, the Republican candidate in New York’s 23rd congressional district, had been chosen by county party leaders in that district to be the GOP’s nominee in next week’s special election.
Yet Republicans from outside that district are trying to overrule that choice as ideologically unsuitable and impose their own candidate on the district.
Here’s an outtake of the discussion:
Gingrich: Well, I just find it fascinating that my many friends who claim to be against Washington having too much power, they claim to be in favor of the 10th Amendment giving states back their rights, they claim to favor local control and local authority, now they suddenly get local control and local authority in upstate New York, they don’t like the outcome.
There were four Republican meetings. In all four meetings, state Representative Dede Scozzafava came in first. In all four meetings, Mr. Hoffman, the independent, came in either last or certainly not in the top three. He doesn’t live in the district. Dede Scozzafava…
VAN SUSTEREN: He doesn’t live in the district?
GINGRICH: No, he lives outside of the district. Dede Scozzafava is endorsed by the National Rifle Association for her 2nd Amendment position, has signed the no-tax-increase pledge, voted against the Democratic governor’s big-spending budget, is against the cap-and-trade tax increase on energy, is against the Obama health plan, and will vote for John Boehner, rather than Nancy Pelosi, to be speaker.
Now, that’s adequately conservative in an upstate New York district. And on other issues, she’s about where the former Republican, McHugh, was. So I say to my many conservative friends who suddenly decided that whether they’re from Minnesota or Alaska or Texas, they know more than the upstate New York Republicans? I don’t think so. And I don’t think it’s a good precedent. And I think if this third-party candidate takes away just enough votes to elect the Democrat, then we will have strengthened Nancy Pelosi by the divisiveness. We will not have strengthened the conservative movement.
Gingrich goes on to conclude that if “we’re going to purge the party of anybody who doesn’t agree with us 100 percent — that guarantees Obama’s reelection. That guarantees Pelosi is speaker for life. I mean, I think that is a very destructive model for the Republican Party.”
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Newt Gingrich, the voice of reason in the GOP.
That too is a scary thing to type.
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Dusty
October 28th, 2009
5:47 pm
Hey, Bookman, what is wrong with your moderator? Taxpayer used BULLCRAP.,.ILK..,..IDIOT in the short span of three sentences. Yet he marches only continually and incessantly without the slightest regret from you.
Well, nobody ever said you were open minded.
Gov Option Done Deal!
October 28th, 2009
5:48 pm
Quin ne Peee akkk has Corzine moppin’ up criminal Christie by 5 points now.
Gov Option Done Deal!
October 28th, 2009
5:51 pm
Teabaggers losing elections for Repubozos comin’ up. NY23 is the Beta.
@@
October 28th, 2009
5:53 pm
Taxpayer:
So let me ask….why do YOU, in particular, need to label people as racists? I really am curious.
I’ve been out in public when a person of color displayed an obvious dislike for me. I never think of them as racists. I might wonder what it was about me that they didn’t like…but racists?
Nahhh. Most of the time I just figure they got up on the wrong side of the bed. I don’t carry the incident around with me to ruin the rest of my day.
Nope! Not me….don’t live my life like that.
You?
N.J.
October 28th, 2009
6:00 pm
Fox barely dominates in the United States. What they basically do is what happens in Great Britain, where there is almost no “objective” journalism. Every British Newspaper is linked to a political party or to a political movement. When Rupert Murdoch created Fox News, the objectivity of the media in the U.S., the only thing that differentiated American press from the other media of the world, died.
Conservatives have to assert that any media that does not take a political stance, most particular THEIR political stance, is “owned by the government”
That is a bit of distraction which has not truth whatsoever.
It is Fox News, that rather more resembles the media wing of the Nazi Party before its rise to power, the Volkischer Beobachter. This rag used to do what Fox News does today. It runs totally minor events, such as occurred with the ACORN incidents. And it runs them 400, 500 times in a weekly news cycle,. and then assails the mainstream media for being involved in covering up a massive scandal, when in fact, none of the ACORN stories were news worthy at all.
Running the story about an individual who was an ACORN volunteer, and then asserting that actions in the private area of his own life were somehow related to ACORN, was no news story at all, though Republicans and Fox News drones will deny it.
However if a Liberal news show insinuated that Mark Foley’s homosexual activities were condoned and in fact the Republican party were somehow involved in procuring boys for him, this would be the liberal version of Fox News.
There was absolutely NOTHING to the ACORN crap that Fox was running, except as if reflected on individuals who happened to be working for or volunteering for ACORN.
Just as the Republican party was not pimping for Mark Foley. Therein lies the difference.
DoggoneGA
October 28th, 2009
6:01 pm
“I never think of them as racists”
Here’s a clue: WHENever, WHOever says “racist” – think BIGOT. Racist is WAY over used, and WAY incorrectly used.
Taxpayer
October 28th, 2009
6:02 pm
I’ve quit worrying about punctuation.
I’m just not that into it anymore.
If that means that you are no longer “teaching”, then I can understand your new attitude.
You obviously got my message. That’s all that matters.
Indeed. You Wyld thang.
Taxpayer
October 28th, 2009
6:04 pm
It’s time for my hike. I’ll check back in later. Meanwhile, @@, where did you see me initiate claims of racism? Just post link and I’ll check it later. Perhaps my memory is failing me.
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
6:11 pm
Taxpayer…
“There’s just something about Dusty that warrants moderation.”
Sorta like book burning, eh?
md
October 28th, 2009
6:12 pm
Gotta love NJ, lost in his own world again.
Sorry NJ, but I know plenty of folks concerned with Acorn. Might have something to do with voter registration fraud, embezzlement, illegal tax evasion, etc, etc.
Maybe you missed your calling. Try packaging some of that stuff you use to others and you just may make a fortune. But in your socialist utopia, you have to give it to everybody else.
N.J.
October 28th, 2009
6:13 pm
The latest attempts by Fox News with regard to the Kevin Jennings story is another such event
For several days now conservatives in the media have been on a witch-hunt for Kevin Jennings, the U.S. Department of Education’s director of the Office of Safe and Drug-Free Schools. Led by Fox News, the right-wing media have claimed that 21 years ago, when Jennings was a 24-year-old teacher at Concord Academy in Massachusetts, he “cover[ed] up statutory rape” by not reporting to authorities a conversation he had with a student who told him about being involved with an “older man.”
They have attacked Jennings with homophobic, anti-gay rhetoric, falsely accused him of covering up or encouraging “statutory rape” and asked for his resignation or firing.
Of course on closer investigation (the news media getting a copy of the students drivers license) showed that Fox News was lying about the age of the student in question. The fact that he had the drivers license alone would have been enough to kill the Fox Story. The drivers license is not given to people below the age of statutory consent.
This is typical of Fox.
So far they have reported that ACORN started SEIU in Chicago.
That Obama worked for ACORN.
Fox news will simply run lies over and over and over again and then assert that the mainstream media is covering it up. They usually use a Rupert Murdoch Newspaper in Great Britain as the source that broke the story. Because libel laws are almost non existent in England, a paper can simply lie for political or the owners personal agenda, and there are rarely legal consequences.
This has been the Fox News method for the last two or three election cycles. In 2004 a British paper created the Alexandra Pollier story as an attack against John Kerry, Matt Drudge and then Fox News picked it up, and the entire story was simply made up out of whole cloth by Murdoch’s British holdings. Not a single foreign paper that was not owned by Murdoch covered the story.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Ate Up With Envy mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
October 28th, 2009
6:15 pm
President Obama and his fellow ultraliberal Democrats now in complete control in Washington are choosing decline for America on domestic policy and the economy as well. The recession has dragged on into its 23rd month now under the leadership of Obamanomics, and its wooden, ideological devotion to old-fashioned, long discredited, Keynesian doctrine. The longest previous recession since World War II, 65 years ago, was 16 months, with the average at 10 months. Another 3 million jobs have been lost since President Obama took office, with unemployment now at almost 10%.-AmSpec
Liberals have a serious conundrum facing them and I can see that it is wracking their nerves, i.e. bookman’s rants about an election 900 miles from Atlanta; do you continue to destroy America and lose all of your political power the very next chance the electoral gets, or do you save the US economy and have to deal with all that superpower talk that they hate so damn much?
Gonna be interesting to see which form of suicide they choose.
Jefferson
October 28th, 2009
6:20 pm
Newt is a Yankee.
md
October 28th, 2009
6:21 pm
“Gonna be interesting to see which form of suicide they choose.”
With the deficits and spending on their current tracks, looks more like mass murder.
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
6:22 pm
Doggone–
How much I agree with you on the term racist…folks don’t even know what the word means…the minute we classify a person by race for whatever reason, positive or negative, we are “racist.”
BTW–Have you Fox hounds been following Shep’s latest? Methinks Jay may be a confrere of his, this Gingrich thread being an example…
Dusty–
Hey, girl, do you save which are moderated? Some truly intriguing patterns do begin to emerge…jus’ sayin’…and pay no mind to Taxpayer,,,he wants to burn books…
Dusty
October 28th, 2009
6:22 pm
Hi josef!
You have come just in time. I was about to lose my sweet, kind, and noble inclinations.
.Now I will remember my manners in honor of all Southern survivors..Yes! Or maybe not. grrrrrrrr..xxx rrrrr.!!…now…back in control!!….
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
6:23 pm
Jefferson–
“Newt’s a Yankee…”
Enough to keep me from voting for him, that and he belongs to the party of Diocletian of the Potomac…
Dave R.
October 28th, 2009
6:25 pm
What Newtie (and others) don’t realize is that adding one lousy seat to a caucus doesn’t mean a darned thing if that person ends up voting the wrong way once they get in. Sure, having the majority gets you a way to rig the committees and set what bills get to the floor, but it doesn’t mean a thing if the person elected ends up voting against them.
I think this move in NY sends a wonderful message to the Republican party. Stop sending appeasers to Washington, or we’ll make sure you don’t send anyone to Washington. Maybe the 2×4 to the head will finally get them to change their ways to the party they were supposed to be. With the country solidly conservative (according to polls), maybe the Republicans should send up a few more, rather than trying to find more moderates.
And the foolishness of the DNCC to say that this race is a referendum on Hope & Change’s presidency is a laugh riot. The Dem may actually win this race, but with far less than 50%, maybe even as low as 40%. Not exactly a ringing endorsement for the direction of the party when possibly 60% disagree with you.
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
6:26 pm
Dusty–
Trying to keep my Southern manners on today, let ‘em go yesterday…!
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Ate Up With Envy mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
October 28th, 2009
6:27 pm
The country will never see the net GDP per person experienced in 2000 if policies such as Health Care Reform and Cap and Trade are enacted, taxes raised dramatically and nearly trillion dollar annual deficits are experienced for the next ten years. For the first time in our history future generations will be worse off than present ones. The Bush presidency could mark the peak of economic growth and prosperity in the 21st century.-American Thinker
Did I not tell you this? That we would long for the Bush economy?
Dusty
October 28th, 2009
6:29 pm
josef,
Today I posted one that was moderated. I put in a post to ask about it. IT was moderated. By the time I tried the third time, my other two were released. Seems like everything I post has to be checked, examined, digested and then released..
Ours is not to question why, ours is but to post and try!!
DoggoneGA
October 28th, 2009
6:31 pm
“That we would long ”
What’choo mean “we” paleface?
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
6:33 pm
Dusty–
On the other hand, getting around the moderator does hone one’s skills in circumlocution…
@@
October 28th, 2009
6:33 pm
BIGOT DoggoneIt?
and that means the someone disliked me because………..?
Taxpayer:
As a teacher, I feel fortunate if I can get my kids/students (they’re special) to write words. Proper punctuation is the least of their worries. Besides…I work with 6 and under, which when delays are prevalent puts them at around 18 mos? 2 years old?
I think your speculation of racism started with a Jimmy Carter? You might not have said it outright but you sure were doin’ a lot of implying or implicating…as the case may be.
Taxpayer
October 28th, 2009
1:39 pm
No, I’m not wrong about you, Jimmy. You clearly have underlying issues and your use of the “racism” card just helped to bring it to the forefront.
Taxpayer
October 28th, 2009
2:31 pm
Doggone,
Poor ox. Probably wishes it was a bovine. Which reminds me, I was just testing the waters with Jimmy. I think he’s just one of the right wing nut regulars posting under a different name. Then again, those right wing nuts all look alike to me. No individuality. No distinquishing features. No. Nothing.
Taxpayer
October 28th, 2009
2:40 pm
Jimmy, what was you last moniker. Gandalf?
Now I do remember brushing by a couple of Gandalf’s posts followed by liberals labeling his/her as a racist. Could it be you’re a wee bit paranoid?
Taxpayer
October 28th, 2009
3:33 pm
NIF! Really! Plantation. THat is just so, so, so, what’s the word I’m looking for, so, Republican. You and “Jimmy” need to get together and work on that.
I think I dropped the one where you claimed right-wing nutjobs all looked alike…no distinguishing characteristics of note.
Subtle maybe, but you get the point…I’m sure.
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
6:34 pm
Doggone
“What’choo mean “we” paleface?”
Get that one a lot in this house! Unmentionable is “racist!”
AmVet
October 28th, 2009
6:36 pm
As soon as I read JB’s topic, I knew Duhng would throw a rod.
But how could I know he would be the first poster too?
LOL funny.
Now Newt the Nut is an advocate of the GOP Big Tent???
Like most of the idiotic Republiconned slogans it never existed.
Unless on considers garnering winning only one demographic category – whites over 60 – to be a BIG tent…
Excluding the category of crazy people/evangelicals…
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
6:36 pm
@@
Taxpayer and his kind haven’t the vaguest notion of what goes into the work you do. Besides he wants to burn books…
Dusty
October 28th, 2009
6:37 pm
josef,
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Worry not about yesteday. You only posted honest opinions.
Your thoughts are most enjoyable. If we don’t agree sometimes, we are HONEST. I love that trait..
See you later. Dinner time has sneaked up on me AGAIN. I am now getting the “sad eye” of hunger from the starved and neglected!!! Yes!!
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Ate Up With Envy mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
October 28th, 2009
6:39 pm
Welp, time to sell all the stocks again, I see-
Dow 9,762.69 Down 119.48 (1.21%)
So much for that “recovery.”
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
6:40 pm
Ah! Plantation. The latest lexical entry on the bonfire of the bannities…
Johnny DangerDawg
October 28th, 2009
6:43 pm
Actually, Jay, this is not unusual for Newt. I don’t agree with his positions on some issues, but Newt has always been a good strategist. Actually, he’s one of the best strategists the Republicans have ever had, the man responsible for getting the Republicans back in control of the House in the 1990s.
DoggoneGA
October 28th, 2009
6:44 pm
“BIGOT DoggoneIt?”
Yes, bigot. “racist” is lately being VASTLY overused when the correct term should be, as you repeated, BIGOT. Here endeth the lesson for today…not that I expect it to stick, but I tried.
AmVet
October 28th, 2009
6:48 pm
“Newt’s a Yankee…”
So was George of the Bungle…
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
6:48 pm
As far as Newt is concerned, I’m by no means a fan of his, but he IS a study in paradox and a consumate politician. When he was promoting taking government funding from Public Television, at the same time he cut a substantial check payable to them…away from the poltical, some of his commentaries on social and cultural matters have been intellectually refined and scholarly…like I said, I don’t like him, but he’s not an uneducated individual…
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
6:50 pm
AmVet–
My name for Bush at the time was The Carpetbagger Prince and Choice of the Supreme Court…
@@
October 28th, 2009
6:53 pm
‘Ya know, DoggoneIt…I was doing a little research of my own. The differences are vague at best. I know my primary colors and all those that can be blended to bring about secondaries.
Character is the determining factor for me.
I pretty confident I’ve never told anyone here “I’m not a racist.” What I have said is “Call me a racist if it makes you feel better.”
Not speaking of you, specifically….just addressing those liberals who have tagged/implied/speculated on who they think me to be.
DoggoneGA
October 28th, 2009
6:54 pm
“of the Supreme Court…”
Josef…have you ever read Bugliosi’s book on that?
@@
October 28th, 2009
6:56 pm
While I may not care about punctuation, my typos irritate even me.
Put an apostrophe m where it’s needed.
IHB
DoggoneGA
October 28th, 2009
6:57 pm
“differences are vague at best”
I don’t consider them vague in the least. The operative part of the definition of “racist” is this: “involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to rule others.”
That is a FAR cry from a bigot: “a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion”
In other words, all racists are bigots…but not all bigots are racist.
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
6:59 pm
“Josef…have you ever read Bugliosi’s book on that?”
Not yet. Did read “Outrage.” He’s not afraid to call it the way he sees it and I can respect that…
Nothing Is Free
October 28th, 2009
6:59 pm
Taxpayer
You can keep the bumper sticker. I’ll just donate to their PAC fund.
DoggoneGA
October 28th, 2009
7:02 pm
“Not yet”
It’s extremely interesting…I highly reccomend it.
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
7:03 pm
@@
It never fails that if I, or anyone else, takes a swipe at someone else’s grammar, punctuation, syntax or what-have-you, that person is sure to make one of his/her own in so doing. I was taught my my Granny that doing such was “just plain tacky.”
@@
October 28th, 2009
7:03 pm
That is a FAR cry from a bigot: “a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion”
Well, DoggoneIt, the piece I was reading implied all related to race.
If you’re definition is to be accepted, then we’re all bigots. I can’t imagine coming in here to accepting of all beliefs or opinions. It’d be a waste of time in my opinion. It’d be like one big squishy (to use Andy’s term) mess.
No fun in that.
Taxpayer
October 28th, 2009
7:04 pm
Well, @@, you’ve certainly demonstrated your ability to search through a thread for keywords yet you somehow overlooked this one, for example:
Jimmy Carter
October 28th, 2009
1:21 pm
Taxpayer
October 28th, 2009
1:18 pm
Was there any “underlying racism” in your post or was I just commiting adultery in my heart again?
That’s mighty Hannity of you to present such a one-sided presentation. Notice, I avoid the use of the word “argument” to describe your effort since it is clearly colored.
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
7:04 pm
Doggone–
If it comes with your recommendation, it’s on my list!
@@
October 28th, 2009
7:08 pm
DANGIT!!!!
Take out that freakin’ apostrophe in “you’re”….the “e” too. Put in a “be” between “to” and “accepting”.
Holey crap. Plugging the verbal turf.
IRRDHBRID
Kamchak
October 28th, 2009
7:08 pm
After Harry Reid finally announced he would send up a bill containing a public option regardless of who didn’t like it, he called his doctor in the middle of the night in a panic. The doctor told him to relax; it was only late-onset spinal growth. And that it wasn’t a preexisting condition.
AmVet
October 28th, 2009
7:10 pm
josef, I always found it funny how the conned bleated endlessly about experience. And how necessary it was.
So what did they do? They nominated and elected a man who was a drunk, crackhead male whore, a fraud farmer/rancher, a failure in the oil business (???), a failure as a baseball team owner and a fake pilot.
OH! You meant favorable experience?
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
7:11 pm
K’chak @ 7:08
OOh! I like that!
DoggoneGA
October 28th, 2009
7:11 pm
“I can’t imagine coming in here to accepting of all beliefs or opinions”
Again, you’re missing the operative part of the definition: “…UTTERLY intolerant…” Sure everyone has things they don’t like, even things they don’t want to tolerate…but that alone does not make them bigots. It DOES, however, deserve to be called what it is: “intolerance”
And tolerating differences is not the same thing as accepting them, either. I’m quite tolerant of a LOT of things that I would not have in my life.
Gov Option Done Deal!
October 28th, 2009
7:12 pm
Afghanistan and Iraq explosion business booming. Time for a draft to empty those college dorms.
DoggoneGA
October 28th, 2009
7:12 pm
“If it comes with your recommendation, it’s on my list!”
That is an accolade, thank you very much! If you don’t come away from reading it ANGRY…you aren’t paying attention.
thomas
October 28th, 2009
7:12 pm
N.J.
Regardless of the age of the victim it is still an ethical violation. Anytime a teacher has sex with a student it is a violation of the teachers authority.
BTW, you may want to check on that drivers license thing. In some states the age of consent is 17, and in other states the age varies depending upon the age of the predator.
Nice to know that you think it is OK and fine that Teachers sleep with their high school students.
I hope you have a child!
N.J.
October 28th, 2009
7:12 pm
The latest blow to the fans of Ayn Rand are likely to be seen in her latest biographers work, yn Rand and the World She Made, by Anne C. Heller.
The author contends that Rand would have had no tolerance for current neo cons and libertarians, largely because of their support of an economic system and an economy that is based on people like investment bankers and stock brokers.
The single most obvious trait of all of Rands protagonists, is that they actually MADE stuff that was valuable to the society. Skyscrapers, movies, something tangible. The sort of finagling that occurred on Wall Street would have been repugnant to Rand. She would not have liked the idea that a bunch of bankers could get wealthy simply by manipulating paper and leaving nothing behind that people could even look at.
Yet Alan Greenspan’s entire economic philosophy was based on Rand’s “Objectivism” or at least his interpretation of it.
DoggoneGA
October 28th, 2009
7:13 pm
“Plugging the verbal turf.”
Don’t sweat it so much. As I was told years ago on my very first forum: if you aren’t good at reading tyop, you don’t belong here
Taxpayer
October 28th, 2009
7:14 pm
Hi, josef. And, how are you doing this fine Autumn evening?
Taxpayer and his kind haven’t the vaguest notion of what goes into the work you do. Besides he wants to burn books…
I must admit, josef, that I and other taxpayers (and there are plenty of us) likely do not have the vaguest notion since we’ve never observed @@ @ work.
By the way, I have heard that books auto-ignite at 451F but I’ve never confirmed that value personally. It likely varies over time due to the effects of global warming. Perhaps I’ll luck upon a trash heap of Rouge-tinted books some day and I’ll conduct some experiments. Maybe even publish the results for all to see. Nah. Who would want to buy that!
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
7:14 pm
AmVet @ 7:10
About sums up my feelings/opinions on the Village Idiot and NOW look at what we’ve got. Nero.
Gov Option Done Deal!
October 28th, 2009
7:15 pm
Da Fulton County had given 13.2% or 700/5300 Oink 1 Flu Vaccines after its 19th day of vaccination yesterday. If a mutation comes they’ll be dyin’ in tents outside of hospitals and respirator rationing is already a done deal.
Gov Option Done Deal!
October 28th, 2009
7:16 pm
City Parents Opting Out of Swine Flu Vaccine
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/29/nyregion/29vaccine.html?_r=1&src=twt&twt=nytimesmetro
Parents must be part of some mass sacrifice of their children.
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
7:16 pm
Taxpayer–
Ever heard of the index librorum prohibitorum? Might want to start there and the, of course, there’s the Goebbel’s list– might want to start as he did with the works of Magnus Herschfeld…
Taxpayer
October 28th, 2009
7:16 pm
Kamchak
October 28th, 2009
7:08 pm
I also hope it’s not a temporary condition.
Gov Option Done Deal!
October 28th, 2009
7:23 pm
Is the Georgia tradition of mass sacrificing your children from the Old or New tesstamant?
Taxpayer
October 28th, 2009
7:25 pm
Ever heard of the index librorum prohibitorum? Might want to start there and the, of course, there’s the Goebbel’s list– might want to start as he did with the works of Magnus Herschfeld…
Sounds like a lot for @@ to cover, especially with adolescents, josef! By the way, you ever heard of Ray Bradbury.
thomas
October 28th, 2009
7:26 pm
I am not saying what the parents should or should not do.
But this may be of help Gov. Option Done Deal.
The link at the bottom may be of help since you have sited more than once that a reason for the gov’t to provide a public option is that we rank so low in Health Care comparred to the rest of the world. Well it appears that we also kill our children at a higher rate to with vaccines.
Just thought it was awful for you to pass judgement on ANY parent’s choice as to what to provide their children. Especially when you have no future evidence to show the safety or dangers of the H1N1 vaccine. This is something you HOPE will work at best. If it is not a hope please provide me with information stating as a fact, not medical opinion or scientist concensus, an actual fact that there is NO chance for harm from getting the vaccine.
How do you get off accusing people of sacraficing their children?
I would assume it was sarcasm, but have personally witnessed you be this mean spirited and hateful and judgemental in the past.
http://deathbyvaccination.com/
getalife
October 28th, 2009
7:33 pm
Newt’s running.
Gov Option Done Deal!
October 28th, 2009
7:33 pm
@ Thomas–I’m saying what everyone from 6 months to age 125 should be doing including parents of any age. Get vaccinated now! If we have mutation it will be like a bad plague movie–and we could have another “wave” in the next four months or the spring. There is not a question about it. There are no significant side effects from the vaccine and thymerosol mercury crap is just that –a myth propogated by medically ignorant people.
@@
October 28th, 2009
7:36 pm
Taxpayer:
Maybe one has to be here all day to follow the flow.
I’m not, soooo…
It all started with a suggestion that Rob and Jimmy date each other? Then it goes onto how they’re trying to befriend, jay?
Who the hell knows? Who the hell cares?
I just asked you a question which went unanswered.
No biggie. Many of life’s do.
Gov Option Done Deal!
October 28th, 2009
7:37 pm
We will not and have not killed our children at a high rate from vaccines and you cannot site any example of that whatsoever. That’s pure ignorance.
The only thing to fear is the flu itself.
And the UK and Japan proved that when they witheld vaccination from children, that death came to about 29,000 children and it is the subject of a famous monograph in the “Disease of the Month” series (orange in color) that you can walk into Emory medical libray and read if you know how to count to “D” in the alphabet.
Gov Option Done Deal!
October 28th, 2009
7:37 pm
Correction: You can’t cite any time in history when “we’ve killed our children with vaccines.” That’s a pure lie.
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
7:40 pm
G-DD
In relation to your question of earlier concerning the dress code for the APS–
Appropriate (but not limited to)
*business suits
*collared shirts with./without ties
*skirts
*dresses
*slacks
*sweaters, boluses, knit tops, jackets
*coordinated dress shorts ensemble with appropriate shoes and hosiery
*sweat shirts and t-shirts with school-related insignia
*appropriate shoes
*attire in accordance with the environmental requirements for specific job assignments
Unacceptable;
*shorts (except for physical education)
*jeans, including overalls of any color (acceptable only for special projects or activities related to specific job assignments
*hats/headwraps
*immodest dress such as dress which is too short (more than three inches above the knees) or tight or otherwise revealing
*oversized tee shirts and undershirts
*leggings/spandex
*tank tops
*see through clothing
*sundress without a jacket
*clothing that exposes the midriff
*extremely low cut dresses or blouses
*other attire as deemed inappropriate by the building administrator
At our site we “uniform” twice weekly for staff, white shirts/blouses/sweaters with school logo and khakis on Monday and red school logo shirts and black slacks/skirts (school colors) on Fridays…
Our students have a uniform dress code which is collared top of solid white or pastel color and khaki or black shorts/slacks/skirts, no jeans and head coverings only for religious reasons…no t-shirts and no logos/messages except the school emblem…
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
October 28th, 2009
7:41 pm
Well, you got to write mighty dirty stuff to get every post you make checked over before it goes up. I’m sorry to learn Sister Dusty strayed so far from the Path of Righteousness. She must cuss like a sailor.
Anyhow, I’m awful glad people explained what the word bigot means. Now that I know what it means, I don’t like mike calling me that all the time one bit.
Have a good night everybody. I got to get up early and start hauling beer for all you drunks.
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
7:43 pm
Taxpayer–
Ray Bradbury? Was reading him at age 6 –yes, that’s right–Unmentionable thinks he walks on water…He’s a good enough writer and I like a lot of what he says, but I’m not the biggest fan of his metier…
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
7:48 pm
In relation to @@ at work–while I’ve never observed her at work, I have observed her peers on a daily basis. Our site has an early intervention pre-K program. i stand in awe of what those women in that class do! They take a child who is all but catatonic and in a matter of months have them responding to the world and its stimuli…I’m an arrogant and conceited SOB, I will readily admit, but these teachers make me feel humble…
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
7:51 pm
getalife…
“Newt’s running.”
Well by all means, send him a bottle of kaopectate.
Gov Option Done Deal!
October 28th, 2009
7:52 pm
YIKES! NOTHING TO FEAR BUT THE FLU ITSELF
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/12/opinion/12offit.html
Gov Option Done Deal!
October 28th, 2009
7:53 pm
Carafate in an off lable use is 100 x more effective than Kaopectate, Lomotil, or Imodium to stop a diarrhea while you look for the underlying cause if it continues more than a couple days.
@@
October 28th, 2009
7:54 pm
Noooo, josef!!!
At our site we “uniform” twice weekly for staff, white shirts/blouses/sweaters with school logo and khakis on Monday and red school logo shirts and black slacks/skirts (school colors) on Fridays
I fought tooth and nail to rid my school of that get-up. Made me look like a man, it did. My kids have a hard enough time self-identifying.
I/you
am/are
a
girl.
Now we’re in scrubs. Far more practical since I spend so much time at their eye level. Kept blowing the knees out of my “trousers”. I wasn’t about to start wearing those iron on patchy things.
No way jose
f.
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
7:57 pm
@@
Actually, you were on my mind today…there’s one little one who could not walk when she came..for reasons known only to her, she has taken a shine to me…today she broke loose and ran to give me a hug…and there are still those who question why I believe in G-d!
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
7:59 pm
@@–
I all but threatened a sit in when the white shirt and khakis were adopted…gimme something that doesn’t show snot and vomit!
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
8:00 pm
G-DD
@ 7:53
Taxpayer
October 28th, 2009
8:03 pm
I just asked you a question which went unanswered.
And, which question would that be. I think I proved that the talk of racism did not initiate with me and that all I did was respond to claims by another. Yet, you conveniently present you biased views and use that Hannitized tripe of yours to present me in a light that you find most pleasing. Spare me the grandstanding.
thomas
October 28th, 2009
8:06 pm
Gov. Option,
I NEVER said we killed our children. Please show me where I wrote that as my opinion. Whats that you can’t SHOCK!
But are you saying that a vaccine or its complications have never been responsible for an American child?
Oh yes btw you saying so is far from a source. We all here know that you think you are smarter than us all and we are so ignorant to ever challenge your assertions, but I feel I just may be smarter than you. But see how I’m different is that I am willing to say may.
Again I will ask, show me proof, not scientist consensus, or a medically accepted opinion, but an actual fact of the long term effects of H1N1 vaccine?
Any news on the long term effects, or sources for that, to prove as a fact that the H1N1 is safe and will have No long term, or short term effects? Whats that its too new of a drug to have been experimented on long term yet.
No that can’t be the almighty and wise Gov. Option Done Deal said it was. Why no of course he didn’t have a source to PROVE it, but honestly can their be any more proof than if Gov. Option has the opinion that it is so.
Gov Option Done Deal!
October 28th, 2009
8:08 pm
I believe in GODD. And deep sixin’ Leiberman.
thomas
October 28th, 2009
8:10 pm
Funny how the seasonal flu has killed WAY more people than H1N1 in the exact same time period huh.
And Flu season has yet to reach its usual seasonal peak.
So everyone, quick fast and hurry, flu shots and H1N1 shots ASAP.
RW-(the original)
October 28th, 2009
8:19 pm
josef,
You mentioned Shep Smith up ^^^ there somewhere. I’m not sure what to think of him looking so utterly clueless in his pandering. The reporter said Corzine refused to be interviewed multiple times and Shep doesn’t think it’s fair to show Christie if Corzine isn’t shown, but the only place fairness comes in is if they were both asked. If one agrees to an interview and the other refuses why should the one that agreed be punished?
Nothing Is Free
October 28th, 2009
8:25 pm
Liberals arguing about what they consider worthy of their intolerance. LOL!!!
Here’s an idea: give some new ideas a chance because your old worn out anti-American, socialist, bigoted and ignorant ideas suck.
Bob
October 28th, 2009
8:26 pm
Is this the same Newt Gingrich that is the only speaker that actually reduced spending and came close to balancing the budget ?
Gov Option Done Deal!
October 28th, 2009
8:26 pm
Fairness would be prosecuting Christie for violation of several sections of 18 USC including his ownership of Cedent stock and hsi complete politicization of the office of NJ US Attorney.
Gov Option Done Deal!
October 28th, 2009
8:28 pm
Chrustie is a crook and will be prosecuted
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/did_christie_politicize_us_attorneys_office.php
Faux is a joke and the only purpose it serves is humor.
Taxpayer
October 28th, 2009
8:28 pm
@@
October 28th, 2009
1:25 pm
Damn, jay!!! In YOUR OPINION Bush won in 2000?
How does that square with your liberal contributors here?
How does it square with Gore?
He kept showing the courts his big old BooBoo and then he cried and cried when smacked with the ruler. Movin’ on…
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Since I’m addressing bleeding-heart liberals, and although I was thinking in different terms regarding opt-out and state’s rights, I’ll go with liberal stupidity.
The unintended consequences of Reid’s “opt-out” nonsense. It can get harry.
One problem that has cropped up in policy areas where states have differential policies is how it affects migration patterns. Will unhealthy people migrate to states with a public option if their own jurisdiction opts out of the national system? States may be tempted to establish residency requirements for health care the way they did for welfare. This may make it more difficult for the uninsured to get coverage in those areas.
From a governance standpoint, the public option creates a worrisome precedent for other policy areas. If states don’t like congressional decisions on gun control, climate change or immigration, will state legislators demand an opt-out? If this were 1965 and there were a Medicare opt-out, it is conceivable we would have ended up with two-thirds of the country having Medicare, while one-third did not.
With any comprehensive reform, there always are unanticipated consequences. By using a pragmatic mechanism to solve the political problem of overcoming a Senate filibuster, opt-out proponents have created a precedent they later will regret. Opponents most likely will employ that idea in other policy areas when people are unhappy with legislative decisions. The marble cake will expand in scope throughout American federalism.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28791_Page2.html
If it comes to pass, here’s hoping Georgia will opt out — sending desperate liberals in search of THEIR sanctuary elsewhere.
Now, what was that you were saying about hanging out here and who cares about what and blah blah blah.
RW-(the original)
October 28th, 2009
8:29 pm
Chadly,
Sounds like Corzine missed a great opportunity to get on TV and present that case. Perhaps he isn’t a delusional as you.
Gov Option Done Deal!
October 28th, 2009
8:35 pm
Kids with Asthma Hit Hard
http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/docs_warn_h1n1_could_asthmatic_kids_hard_102809
Nothing Is Free
October 28th, 2009
8:37 pm
Bob
It doesn’t take a lot for a person to be the target of liberals. They just need to disagree with them. At that point, any disagreeable person becomes a laughing stock (as Newt was called today).
Please keep in mind that the people you are addressing voting for a president, in the 21st century, as well informed as we all are, after seeing who this guy exposed his children to Sunday, after Sunday, after hearing his glorious speeches about how he is going to change America, after hearing his nonsense and going for the Hope and Change crap. These people STILL voted for him, but that’s not bad enough.
After almost a year of watching our economy go down the toilet, after seeing how emboldened our enemies are, after declaring war on the most powerful news network in the country, after taking over GENERAL MOTORS and deciding the pay of executives and wanting to decide all rates of pay: after seeing all this: THEY STILL SUPPORT THE IMBECILE!!!!!!!
Please consider these facts when you read what they write. It gives their writing all the credibility that it deserves.
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
8:39 pm
RW–
I haven’t seen it yet myself so can’t comment on “the look,” but in the past I’ve been impressed by his cajones…
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Ate Up With Envy mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
October 28th, 2009
8:44 pm
The most important fact about the “opt out” scheme allegedly allowing states to decline government health insurance is that a state can’t “opt out” of paying for it. All 50 states will pay for it. A state legislature can only opt out of allowing its own citizens to receive the benefits of a federal program they’re paying for.
It’s like a movie theater offering a “money back guarantee” and then explaining, you don’t get your money back, but you don’t have to stay and watch the movie if you don’t like it. That’s not what most people are thinking when they hear the words “opt out.” The term more likely to come to mind is “scam.” -Miss Coulter
mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
josef nix
October 28th, 2009
8:48 pm
RIF
“…after seeing who his guy exposed his children to Sunday after Sunday…”
One of the (sadly) funniest things that’s transpired on this blog is how my fellow liberals jump on me like a duck on a junebug when I say that this was one of the deciding factors in not just my refusal to vote for him but a key element in my antipathy toward him. The very ones who think nothing of throwing around the evangelical-fundamentalist canard have been the ring leaders in “defending” him…then here Nero comes with his support of Prop 8 as founded in his religion, followed by inviting in the hate monger preacher Wright…Yeah, sure, and I’m supposed to go singing his hosannahs?
Taxpayer
October 28th, 2009
8:55 pm
And, here’s yet another post that you missed, @@, aka, Hannity Lite:
Taxpayer
October 28th, 2009
1:26 pm
“Jimmy”,
You need to get re-wired. Where in the world did you make a connection to racism from what I posted. I think your innermost feelings may be bleeding over onto the screen.
Do tell how it helped you formulate your colored outlook.
Angry Black Man
October 28th, 2009
8:55 pm
josef
As much as I usually agree with you, I have to disagree with Wright. Unless someone can post every sermon he preached for 20 years and prove that he preached hatred for the US each and every sermon, I don’t buy into it. If people got flustered by the few clips from sermons that were shown, they’d really blow a gasket if they listened in on conversations at the barber shops, basketball courts, and other areas of social gathering in the “hood”. I’m not saying that Wright was a saint, but what he said is nothing compared to what’s really discussed in the black community.
Taxpayer
October 28th, 2009
8:58 pm
how my fellow liberals jump on me like a duck on a junebug
The nerve of some people.