The Fox News-Obama feud much ado about little
You know, I just don’t get the controversy over the Obama administration’s criticism of Fox News. For one thing, it’s entirely accurate: Fox does not approach its job the same way other organizations do. Most legitimate news organizations honestly attempt to purge their presentations of bias. I’d be the first to concede that all journalistic institutions sometimes fall short of that goal, but the point is, as professionals they try.
Fox doesn’t even make the effort, or even the pretense of an effort. At best, they make the pretense of a pretense of an effort. Bias is what they’re selling — they know it, and their audience knows it. So what’s the big deal about the White House saying out loud what everyone already knows?
Beyond that, though, I’m surprised to see the Washington media play this as some kind of new threat to the purity of media-political relations. It’s not. The Bush administration used to complain publicly and often about coverage from MSNBC and NBC. The Clintons were outraged at how the New York Times covered the Whitewater investigation, and they probably were right to be angry. In a speech back in the ’90s, Newt Gingrich fought back against critical coverage by telling Atlanta business leaders that they ought to institute an ad boycott against the AJC.
Most of the time, the publishers and news executives who field those kinds of angry threats from politicians don’t even bother telling their reporters about them, because the reporters don’t need to know. But sometimes the message is communicated directly. I once had a very influential Democratic state legislator — back when Democrats ran the Capitol — suggest to me privately that if the AJC edit board would back off an ethics reform crusade, legislators might look more favorably on funding a downtown multimodal station. (Note that no such station exists.) And Maynard Jackson, exasperated at criticism over his muni bond business, once informed a group of AJC editors that “I don’t work on Jay Bookman’s plantation.” That was a personal favorite.
The point is, it’s a rough-and-tumble relationship between the media and those we cover, and it always will be and ought to be. Politicians who feel under attack will return fire, and personally I think they have that right. What Harry Truman said is true of the media as well as politicians: If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
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Mrs. Godzilla
October 26th, 2009
8:34 am
It’s been Fox’s war on White House all along.
…and to discover this weekend the truth about the Feinburg interview…
Peadawg
October 26th, 2009
8:35 am
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2009/10/12/white-house-says-it-fox-news-not-a-legitimate-news-outlet/
If “The Fox News-Obama feud much ado about little,” then why’d you create a blog about it a couple of weeks ago? hhhhmmmmmm
USinUK
October 26th, 2009
8:35 am
gah. cue the Fauxbots …
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2009
8:35 am
So what’s the big deal about the White House saying out loud what everyone already knows?
It isn’t. However, to continue to treat it like a “controversy” is to help Fox sell ad space at mildly inflated rates for a little while longer.
USinUK
October 26th, 2009
8:37 am
peadawg –
“If “The Fox News-Obama feud much ado about little,” then why’d you create a blog about it a couple of weeks ago? hhhhmmmmmm”
he created a blog about a worm that eats its partner’s penis and feeds it to her bebes …
a blog topic /= earth-shattering news …
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2009
8:38 am
cue the Fauxbots …
We know they’ll bring the crazy, only question is, who’ll bring the craziest?
Angry Black Man
October 26th, 2009
8:38 am
And the beatings will continue until morale improves…
Peadawg
October 26th, 2009
8:38 am
USinUK, I’m just pointing out the laughable hypocrisy by Jay. Why’d did he make much ado about little just a few weeks ago if it is indeed much ado about little like he says?
Turd Ferguson
October 26th, 2009
8:40 am
Obobo, like much of his ilk ie Jesse, Al, Useless Lowery, can certainly distribute incorrect criticisms, however, when on the receiving end they sound like a group of 1st grade little girls.
Angry Black Man
October 26th, 2009
8:41 am
Peadawg
Is it really hyprocrisy if it’s basically opinion writing? Now if this were headline, front page news writing, I’d be on board with you on that.
USinUK
October 26th, 2009
8:42 am
Peadawg –
“Why’d did he make much ado about little just a few weeks ago if it is indeed much ado about little like he says?”
if you go back and actually read what he wrote, he really didn’t – he put it into historical context of other politicians and that was about it.
Bosch
October 26th, 2009
8:44 am
“I’m just pointing out the laughable hypocrisy by Jay”
If I had a dollar for every time a wingnut said those words.
Bosch
October 26th, 2009
8:44 am
Or rather “wrote” those words.
Peadawg
October 26th, 2009
8:45 am
It’s just funny that he made a blog about it, and now says it’s no big deal. That’s all. Y’all can sugar coat it all you want. It is what it is…hypocrisy.
Bosch
October 26th, 2009
8:45 am
I guess the wingnuts are so used to talk radio and Fox, they think ALL news is of the “opinion” variety.
Bosch
October 26th, 2009
8:46 am
Peadawg,
AND it’s still a frakkin’ BLOG!!!
Mrs. Godzilla
October 26th, 2009
8:46 am
“A former Fox News pundit has joined the debate over the network’s journalistic ethics, and she’s singled out one personality in particular.”
Guess who?
http://rawstory.com/2009/10/jane-hall-beck-is-scary/
Madison
October 26th, 2009
8:46 am
Jay, So you are saying that the AJC is not a legitimate news organization?
USinUK
October 26th, 2009
8:47 am
Bosch …
BOY-HOWDY do I have an early Christmas present for you
(by the way – early christmas presents do NOT go against my no-decorations-out-before-halloween plank in my presidential platform)
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-10-22/cheneys-blood-lust/
(I hear he’s evil, ya know)
USinUK
October 26th, 2009
8:49 am
Peadawg –
“It’s just funny that he made a blog about it, and now says it’s no big deal.”
if his earlier blog said it was ZOMG! like the biggest, most important thing Obama’s done since taking office, I’d be right there with you. but, since that wasn’t his earlier position, you can call it hypocrisy if you like, but you’d be using the term incorrectly.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
October 26th, 2009
8:51 am
Well, it’s just a shame this Obama keeps picking a fight with a fine news station like Fox. The only one that’s Fair and Balanced. It’s the only station that will dig up the real dirt on that bunch of crooks in the White House. Instead of getting a award from this Nobel or Pulitzer or somebody else, all Fox gets is shut out of news conferences and innerviews and stuff like. It’s time to Impeach Obama like we done that Clinton for running around with the intern.
Speaking of running around, I’m kind of suprized Bookman never started out with a piece on this Philips guy at ESPN. He got fired for running around with the ugliest woman you ever seen in your life. A woman that worked there at the station. He ought to of been fired for Bad Taste. She’s uglier than my mother-in-law, and she’s been dead for 20 years. My mother-in-law, I mean, not the woman he run around with. If you want to scare somebody on Halloween, just get a mask with the face of this woman.
Anyhow, I’m real sorry to get off topic like that but it’s been bothering me all morning. I mean, if the guy wanted to run around with a man, why not pick a man?
Have a good day everybody.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
October 26th, 2009
8:51 am
Most legitimate news organizations honestly attempt to purge their presentations of bias.
Ahahahahahahahahahaha, yeah, ok.
Man up, Obozo, mmm, mmmm, mmmmm, you ain’t the first.
Get over yourself.
Peadawg
October 26th, 2009
8:53 am
From the dictionary:
” a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings”
Last week, he points out that Fox news is an illegitimate news source. Today, he says it’s no big deal.
USinUK
October 26th, 2009
8:54 am
Peadawg –
“Last week, he points out that Fox news is an illegitimate news source. Today, he says it’s no big deal.”
no, he didn’t.
read the post.
Eric
October 26th, 2009
8:56 am
I see reports about what Fox is doing on other networks, but I never and I mean never watch Fox “News”. Some people deserve to be ignored and that right wing bunch is firmly in the category.
danjonglee
October 26th, 2009
8:56 am
Obama should not be afraid or scared of Fox News.. He ought to be able to answer tough questions about his policies that will cost taxpayers trillions down the road. One would think professional journalist would ask these questions from other outlets like NBC, CBS, CNN, PBS, ABC WA PO, NY Times but they accept the premises that we(US) needs this or that or whatever is being sold to us..
Call it like it is.
October 26th, 2009
8:56 am
You can tell its Monday and slow, After reading Cindy Lou’s blog and Jay Jay’s, I wonder why I even open up this page. Will check back later to see if there is something worth commenting on.
Bosch
October 26th, 2009
8:58 am
USinUK,
LIVERPOOL!!!!!! Okay, got that out of the way.
Thanks for the article. And yes, Dick Cheney and his spawns are such a horrible Greek tragedy, and evil to boot!!!
Ted Zinski
October 26th, 2009
9:00 am
Yo OBABY – the truth hurts… doesn’t it?
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2009
9:00 am
Mrs. G. your rawstory link happened to remind me of a phony talking point I keep hearing, to wit: “Well is your precious librul MSNBC any better? Huh? Well?”
To that I answer:
One: MSNBC does not claim to be “fair and balanced.” It does not assert “We report. You decided.” Rather, it calls itself “the place for politics.”
Two: MSNBC gives three hours of airtime every morning to a conservative former congressman. Refresh my memory—who is the liberal former congressman on FNC who’s been given a three-hour slot each weekday morning? Must’ve missed that guy.
Taxpayer
October 26th, 2009
9:01 am
I once had a very influential Democratic state legislator — back when Democrats ran the Capitol — suggest to me privately that if the AJC edit board would back off an ethics reform crusade, legislators might look more favorably on funding a downtown multimodal station.
So, is this legislator giving you a bout of deja vu except under the Republican banner now, Jay.
Normal
October 26th, 2009
9:01 am
Bosch
October 26th, 2009
8:44 am
“I’m just pointing out the laughable hypocrisy by Jay”
If I had a dollar for every time a wingnut said those words.
But you’d have to give half to the State, half to the Feds, but you could keep the rest…
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2009
9:02 am
“Last week, he points out that Fox news is an illegitimate news source. Today, he says it’s no big deal.”
I’ll make it simple for you: Pointing out that Fox News is not a legitimate news source is not a big deal.
got it now?
USinUK
October 26th, 2009
9:03 am
yeahyeahyeah … Liverpool … blahblahblah … Sunderland AND Tottenham both lost this weekend … (my sweet Peter C didn’t even score) …
Mrs. Godzilla
October 26th, 2009
9:04 am
Who one the Bush war on the New York Times?
Bush who NEVER gave an interview to the Times or the Times for not
having to ever publish one?
lovelyliz
October 26th, 2009
9:05 am
This pretty much explains it all:
New World Communs. of Tampa, Inc. v. Akre, 866 So. 2d 1231(2003)
Mrs. Godzilla
October 26th, 2009
9:05 am
won…..not one
Mrs. Godzilla
October 26th, 2009
9:06 am
lovelyliz
I posted a link on that a while back…..and the righties just didn’t get it.
AmVet
October 26th, 2009
9:06 am
Again, what’s the fuss?
Faux News has programs HOSTED by Huckleberry and Ollie the Unindicted Criminal.
These are paid, professional shuckers and grinners for the Republiconned movement.
Just man up you Aussie fascist and traitor and admit it.
Your gullible and gutless viewers certainly never will.
Jeez…
USinUK
October 26th, 2009
9:06 am
“Bush who NEVER gave an interview to the Times or the Times for not
having to ever publish one?”
with his stenographers there (like Judith Miller), why should he have to give them an interview???
TnGelding
October 26th, 2009
9:08 am
Peadawg
October 26th, 2009
8:35 am
And another one today.
With all the coverage it gave Bush I thought for sure it would keep him from getting reelected.
Certainly Fox features stories unfavorable to the WH while giving short shrift to positive ones, but I don’t find it that offensive. It’s the challenge to the WH to be more careful and make fewer stupid mistakes.
Angry Black Man
October 26th, 2009
9:09 am
Hey Normal
Forgot to tell you, I think I saw Oxendine come thru the other morning. I don’t think he was coming from Argentina though. Think the flight was from Brazil.
RW-(the original)
October 26th, 2009
9:10 am
Fox doesn’t even make the effort, or even the pretense of an effort. At best, they make the pretense of a pretense of an effort.
That’s not really a fair statement. Shep Smith tries to hide his being a barking moonbat a good bit of the time.
Gale
October 26th, 2009
9:10 am
IMO if you cannot tell entertainment from real news, then you deserve the derision you receive when you repeat it as news.
Kamchak
October 26th, 2009
9:10 am
Refresh my memory—who is the liberal former congressman on FNC who’s been given a three-hour slot each weekday morning? Must’ve missed that guy.
Well…they did have Alan Colmes. The Washington Generals had a better chance of winning a game against the Globetrotters than Alan Colmes had against Hannity.
Mrs. Godzilla
October 26th, 2009
9:12 am
would that be the former congressman who had a dead woman trurn up in his office?
uga_b
October 26th, 2009
9:13 am
Some people used to think propaganda was biased too…
bob
October 26th, 2009
9:14 am
Foxnews needs to hire some more credible journalists to get into the mainstream. Maybe they could hire kieth Olberman or Rachael Maddow, MSNBC has so many credible anchors they could give a few up and still be tops as far as being unbiased and credible. Foxnews needs to learn that America does not care how many commies like Ayers, Van Jones and others, are in Obama’s admin. Thats old news. Why would America care about the white house communications director saying that Mao is one of her inspirations, It’s been 60 or 70 years since he killed those millions of Chinese, can’t we let bygones be bygones.
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2009
9:14 am
they did have Alan Colmes.
Or as Sean said as the TV show was in its planning stages, “A liberal to be named later.”
(Colmes is actually halfway decent on his own on the radio, if you’ve ever heard his show.)
Doggone/GA
October 26th, 2009
9:15 am
“Foxnews needs to hire some more credible journalists to get into the mainstream”
Sounds like you’re assuming that’s what FOX “News” wants to do. Where’s your proof of that?
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2009
9:15 am
Foxnews needs to hire some more credible journalists to get into the mainstream. Maybe they could hire Sam Seder or Janeane Garofalo
fyt.
TnGelding
October 26th, 2009
9:15 am
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
October 26th, 2009
8:51 am
Obo doesn’t have to man up against the sissy opposition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRijR9bdmPc
TnGelding
October 26th, 2009
9:18 am
Kamchak
October 26th, 2009
9:10 am
I thought Colmes handled himself very well against Hannity.
Angry Black Man
October 26th, 2009
9:19 am
What Fox, MSNBC, CNN, et al need to do is place all opinion shows on separate channels and devote their news channels to nothing but news. Then the argument would be moot. Then you’d see the real viewership numbers based on people actually watching the news and not opinions.
USinUK
October 26th, 2009
9:20 am
ABM –
excellent plan
William
October 26th, 2009
9:23 am
You talk about Fox News and Glenn Beck both are my heros. However, did not outlets like NBC, CBS, CNN, PBS, ABC WA PO, and NY Times help Obama lie to the American people in his bid for president. How many of those promise air by these organizations have come true? How many Mrs G. …waiting….waiting….waiting…waiting…waiting…shucks none of them.
Normal
October 26th, 2009
9:23 am
Angry Black Man
October 26th, 2009
9:09 am
ABM, it was probably nothing. He probably just went to pick a few Brazil nuts….
Doggone/GA
October 26th, 2009
9:23 am
“excellent plan”
Well, maybe…but who’s going to monitor the “news” channels to ensure they ARE reporting news, and not injecting opinions into their reports?
AmVet
October 26th, 2009
9:24 am
Oh I almost forgot the field general for Faux News – Roger Ailes.
Here’s a Republitoady of the first degree.
For gawdssakes Republidupes, he was the media consultant for Tricky Dick, Ronnie the Dictator Lover, and George H. W. Bush.
And he also worked for Rudy (9/11!!!) Giuliani’s first mayoral campaign in 1989.
But no, I’m sure he’s really a fair and balanced guy who doesn’t fellate every Republican he ever knew.
Dolts…
William
October 26th, 2009
9:24 am
Angry Black Man
October 26th, 2009
9:19 am
Do you mean report the news or do like liberal media does and SHAPE THE NEWS?
Jimbo
October 26th, 2009
9:24 am
“Most legitimate news organizations …”
Can’t believe you printed this line, you don’t fit the bill Jay.
Thanks for the ratings increase for FOX!
Oh, what about a drug test to qualify for welfare ?
Try that in your politically unbalanced “column”????
TnGelding
October 26th, 2009
9:25 am
William
October 26th, 2009
9:23 am
Just keep waiting. In 7 years there will have been enough changes to have you even more irate.
david wayne osedach
October 26th, 2009
9:25 am
Change the channel. There are plenty of other news stations.
TnGelding
October 26th, 2009
9:27 am
Jimbo
October 26th, 2009
9:24 am
How does Fox compare to the news programs at ABC, NBC and CBS?
RW-(the original)
October 26th, 2009
9:27 am
ABM @ 9:19,
The problem is that your idea isn’t sustainable as a business model.
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2009
9:27 am
Thanks for the ratings increase for FOX!
As I pointed out, of course, short term this will be to Fox’s benefit. However, what matters is, that the Administration came out and said what most rational people already know, but might have felt a little bit circumspect, in the past, in saying in polite company–that FNC is not a legitimate news outlet.
That horse has left the barn.
Bosch
October 26th, 2009
9:28 am
USinUK,
I was pulling for Sunderland if that makes you feel better, although their loss and Liverpool’s win puts them ahead now – but as my oldest pointed out yesterday – Chelsea is still number one and they sort of embarrassed Blackburn.
RE: Peter Crouch – well, it’s hard to score when you have to keep picking bird pieces out of your teeth. Get it? He’s so tall, he has to pick bird pieces out of his teeth when he runs ’cause they get all tangled in his teeth and……..nevermind.
USinUK
October 26th, 2009
9:28 am
“but who’s going to monitor the “news” channels to ensure they ARE reporting news, and not injecting opinions into their reports?”
same people who currently do that job …
“Oh, what about a drug test to qualify for welfare ?”
only if corporations that get fed money have to take them, too …
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2009
9:29 am
RW, is simply asserting that “We are America! We do not [gerund] torture” really enough to elevate one to “barking moonbat” status these days?
Mrs. Godzilla
October 26th, 2009
9:30 am
OH William…..only the right called him the Messiah….
the rest of us simply call him MR. President.
RW-(the original)
October 26th, 2009
9:30 am
sfb,
No
GoingBroke
October 26th, 2009
9:32 am
Sooo.. this is how Obama is going to payback all of the media outlets for the things they DIDN’T report while he was running for office.
Peadawg
October 26th, 2009
9:32 am
Also, making a blog about a story being much ado about nothing is in a way, making much ado about nothing
Just sayin’……lol
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2009
9:33 am
the rest of us simply call him MR. President.
Sometimes I get nostalgic and call him MR. Tibbs.
Later, kids. Be fair and balanced.
USinUK
October 26th, 2009
9:35 am
Bosch –
“Get it? He’s so tall, he has to pick bird pieces out of his teeth when he runs ’cause they get all tangled in his teeth and……..nevermind.”
baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha. ha.
“Chelsea is still number one and they sort of embarrassed Blackburn.”
I’m sayin!!! when do you EVER see a team score 5 points in professional football!! poor blackburn.
Blackburn earned little but their manager’s contempt. Sam Allardyce lacerated his players’ second half performance. “The second half was pathetic, I didn’t see that coming,” he said.
“It all went pathetically wrong. All our tactics that we’d planned went out of the window. I’m bitterly disappointed in the players’ lack of understanding of the situation they put themselves in. Chelsea took total advantage of our naïvety today.
“At the moment they’re not good enough. That’s the bottom line. We haven’t got the resilience, the mental toughness, or the physical presence to get results away from home.”
(gee … thanks, coach)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/chelsea/6423616/Chelsea-5-Blackburn-Rovers-0-match-report.html
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2009
9:35 am
Oh, one other thing–as some guy rather ungrammatically asserted:
How many of those promise air by these organizations have come true? How many Mrs G. …waiting….waiting….waiting…waiting…waiting…shucks none of them.
How many times do I have to post this link for you guys?
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/rulings/promise-kept/
rightofcenter
October 26th, 2009
9:37 am
Jay,
Get real – please link to the examples where Bush White House officials “on the air” tried to de-legitimize NBC, MSNBC, or any other “news organization.” Then show us the link where President Bush backed them up on the record. We will wait.
ABM – why don’t you make your suggestion to a Democrat in office? I’m sure they would love to pass legislation that mandates that the cable channels do that. Right after they pass the surtax on soft drinks. After all, there is no segment of the economy or the culture that they think doesn’t need the long arms of government exerting their influence by force of law. Except abortion, of course.
gatorman770
October 26th, 2009
9:38 am
Jay pleas identify these “Most legitimate news organizations honestly attempt to purge their presentations of bias” because I’d like to view and listen to them because they certainly aren’t the Obama network of liberal democratic bias stations including ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, PBS, etc. who continually push the Obama agenda by broadcasting half truths, complete lies, and omitting key stories that would display a bad light on the Democratic plans for socialism. When the “National Enquirer” beats the Obama national media to publicizing factual stories like John Edward’s infidelity, it’s pretty clear where the bias lies.
William
October 26th, 2009
9:39 am
TnGelding
October 26th, 2009
9:25 am
What the liberals change the conservatives can change it back. What a great system we have. It can withstand progressive liberals for up to eight years and comeback to reality. However, I doubt Obama the Liar will get another term.
We lost 40 military personnel the last week. It sure is a shame to have lose a son/daughter to a socialist. It kinda takes away the meaning of keeping freedom alive.
Chicago Bill
October 26th, 2009
9:39 am
Chicago politicians are dirtiest ,low life,scum bags on this earth. They cut each other throats on a daily basis here. They hate competition.
Liberals are morons
October 26th, 2009
9:39 am
Liberals are all for free speech as long it’s something they are with, if not let’s ban it. What a bunch of morons!!!
Doggone/GA
October 26th, 2009
9:41 am
“…or do like liberal media does and SHAPE THE NEWS?”
And they ALWAYS say this…but can NEVER provide any examples of that being done.
Mrs. Godzilla
October 26th, 2009
9:41 am
“The Bush White House’s war with NBC News is more well known. In May 2008, then-White House counselor Ed Gillespie publicly sent a scathing letter to NBC News President Steve Capus, accusing them of deceptive editing and blurring the lines between “news” and “opinion.” Soon after, then-White House press secretary Dana Perino expounded upon the campaign against NBC from the White House podium:
PERINO: The reason that we sent the letter yesterday is because we had gotten fed up with the way that the President’s policies are being mischaracterized, or the situations on the ground weren’t being accurately reflected in the reporting. We had complained before. And it just reached a boiling point.”"
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/10/21/rove-nuts/
Bosch
October 26th, 2009
9:41 am
USinUK,
“(gee … thanks, coach)”
Dang! Make them run extra laps or something.
Mrs. Godzilla
October 26th, 2009
9:42 am
bunch a new names for righty posters today…..or is it the same old
goober?
Bosch
October 26th, 2009
9:42 am
“who continually push the Obama agenda by broadcasting half truths, complete lies, and omitting key stories that would display a bad light on the Democratic plans for socialism”
There’s your sign.
Mrs. Godzilla
October 26th, 2009
9:43 am
Bosch
Cinnamon rolls may be appropriate for this mornings entertainment…..
Got any?
Bosch
October 26th, 2009
9:44 am
Doggone,
Shape the news? I read that and went “er?” – what does that even mean? Is that a catch phrase Rush is sprouting off now?
Kamchak
October 26th, 2009
9:47 am
I’m sayin!!! when do you EVER see a team score 5 points in professional football!! poor blackburn.
Well Blackburn did put one in the net–too bad (not really) it was their own.
TnGelding
October 26th, 2009
9:48 am
Why Obama is “dithering?”
“McChrystal, I fear, has arrived too late – for Afghanistan and for Washington. He is asking for a huge act of faith on two fronts – first, by the international community; and second by the Afghan people. But after almost a decade of these constituencies having their trust abused, the miracle promised by McChrystal is a mirage, an ephemeral outcome that even with inevitable, subsequent requests for thousands more troops and billions more in reconstruction dollars likely will not eventuate. The general wants a blank cheque for a jalopy on which he offers no warranty.”
http://michaelmoore.com/words/must-read/afghan-insurgency-given-new-life-their-enemies
wyldbyllhyltnyr@gmail.com
October 26th, 2009
9:48 am
And Fox’s sin – perhaps it was bringing Rev Wright to our attention, or maybe Bill “The Kill” Ayres to the American consciousness, could have been Van Jone, or the tax scofflaws aplenty in this administration? No, it was reminded America that Obama is far left of where he campaigned that drew the WH ire on Fox.
Doggone/GA
October 26th, 2009
9:48 am
“who continually push the Obama agenda by broadcasting half truths, complete lies, and omitting key stories that would display a bad light on the Democratic plans for socialism”
How about YOU providing some proof of this?
Brad Steel
October 26th, 2009
9:49 am
Obama should be on Fox because the retards on Fox and Friendsare the most insipid douchebags on the planet. And because Hannity did not get enough wedgies in high school.
Dr. R
October 26th, 2009
9:49 am
The president should take his cue from successful predecessors of both parties — Kennedy and Reagan come to mind — and ignore the critics. He is letting the carping from the grandstands throw him off his game. I’m not a supporter of his, per se, but I still want to see him succeed, for our nation’s sake. He needs to grow a spine and some stones, quit worrying about his naysayers, and go do what he needs to do. He won’t win over everyone but at least the people who support him will feel as if they have a true leader, not someone trying to herd cats that won’t be herded. GWB, for all of his faults, didn’t spent his eight years trying to make everyone like him. A president needs to quit worrying about being popular and focus on being effective. Mr. Obama has the skill set to be a good president. He needs to use it.
USinUK
October 26th, 2009
9:50 am
Mrs G, Bosch and Kam -
I made fresh banana and cranberry muffins (which have gotten rave reviews here at the office) … you’re welcome to them …
Kam –
“Well Blackburn did put one in the net–too bad (not really) it was their own”
still not nearly as good as the beach-ball-in-the-net from the Sunderland game …
Marsh
October 26th, 2009
9:52 am
Dither Dick lectures on foreign policy.
Cappuccino Perino lectures on freedom of the press.
What’s next from Faux News?
Bernie Made Off investment advice?
Doggone/GA
October 26th, 2009
9:53 am
“The president should take his cue from successful predecessors of both parties — Kennedy and Reagan come to mind — and ignore the critics”
Baloney. If they have legitimate disagreements with the policies, then yes, it’s enough to say the administration has other ideas on the subject and let it go at that. But when they base their “opinions” on lies, then THE LIES need to be addressed and refuted…EVERY TIME they are repeated.
USinUK
October 26th, 2009
9:55 am
Marsh –
makeup advice from Mary Matalin (eeeeyikes)
thomas
October 26th, 2009
9:56 am
Mrs. Godzilaa,
Isn’t Glenn Beck an entertainment opinion type for Fox?
If the judgement of Fox News is going to be based on entertainers as Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says, then I believe it is truely unfair. Because ALL of the networks have parttisian opinion journalist. Heck jay is a partisian opinion writer, nothing more nothing less. But to judge the entire AJC based on the writings of one Journalist or even 2 would be dishonest, and dismissive of the hundred or so workers who come to work with nothing but honest intentions.
Chicago Bill
October 26th, 2009
9:57 am
On the outside Obama is smooth as butter…but behind close doors he’s a mean Chicago fighting machine. Corrupt to the bone.