AP says Iran has agreed to draft deal on nuke material

AP posted the following as breaking news at 7:18 a.m.

“VIENNA — The International Atomic Energy Agency says Iran has agreed to a draft deal on its nuclear program.

In addition, diplomats say the deal would see the country ship out most of its enriched uranium to Russia, stripping Tehran of most of the material it would need to make a nuclear weapon.

IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei said Wednesday that Iran and the U.S., Russia and France have signed off on a draft deal that he hoped would be approved by the nations’ capitals by Friday.

He gave no details. But a diplomat inside the closed meeting told The Associated Press that the draft foresees the export most of Iran’s stockpile of enriched uranium.

Iran says it is enriching to provide fuel for a future network of nuclear reactors. But enriched uranium can also be used to make the fissile core of nuclear warheads.”

There’s a lot of cause for skepticism here. Draft deals sometimes don’t become official deals, especially when Iran is involved. And sometimes official deals aren’t implemented.

In this case, even an actual deal that is implemented won’t permanently solve the problem of Iran’s nuclear weapons program. But if the AP report proves correct, it would certainly represent important progress on a problem that until now has seemed to defy progress.

157 comments Add your comment

Normal

October 21st, 2009
8:08 am

Good! So now maybe there will be no “bomb, bomb, bomb Iran” talk any more.

Mickie

October 21st, 2009
8:10 am

Wonder what Isreal is going to use to shake us down with now.

Mrs. Godzilla

October 21st, 2009
8:10 am

It will be another entertaining day below…..

Diplomacy is so much neater than carpet bombing.

Turd Ferguson

October 21st, 2009
8:12 am

LOL…draft this, draft that, draft beer. Iran is playing everyone as they see fit and comes as no surprise about the worthless clutter at the UN.

Iran will need to be dealt with and we can deal with them now or later. Bomb them now or risk a much heavier toll later.

PS…lets send douchebag Carter over for a visit.

Gale

October 21st, 2009
8:15 am

Cause for a large measure of skepticism I would say.

Normal

October 21st, 2009
8:16 am

Turd, bless your heart…one size too small…

jokerman

October 21st, 2009
8:19 am

“PS…lets send douchebag Carter over for a visit.”

Why not the double douchebag Oliver North? mmmmmm…mmmmm…mmmmm

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

October 21st, 2009
8:19 am

Yeah, “important progress” for Iran.

Their current centrifuge technology will not process the low grade uranium that they have, too many impurities, but the Russian’s centrifuges will.

So these two liars are spinning up a “deal” with America and some bomb grade uranium for Iran, and of course, the liberals hail this as “progress.”

Fools.

Jimmy Carter

October 21st, 2009
8:24 am

Can we “draft” something for the following:

WIRE: Higher jobless rates could be new normal…

Dems paying off Docs to support ObamaCare?

Reid Carving Out Favors for States…

PAPER: Excuses wearing thin for president, media pals…

ObamaCare Propoganda On Govt. Website?

RNC Beats DNC in Money Race…(I’m sure Holder will start a federal investigation on this one)

CNN Poll: Half the country disagrees with Obama on issues… (must be that “underlying racism” the real Jimmy Carter frequently mentions)

Mrs. Godzilla

October 21st, 2009
8:24 am

Normal

I admire you. Your heart is a biggie.

Taxpayer

October 21st, 2009
8:24 am

It sure is nice to have the Republican war mongers out of the picture and left to their whining about their good old days of blowing up everything. They should form a club and maybe get Liz Cheney to chair it.

stands for decibels

October 21st, 2009
8:25 am

This comments thread is worthless without the comic value of a heart-fluttering @@ telling us she misses her War Daddy Preznit and gosh-durn it, Stratfor has this article that proves how Everything You Know is Wrong.

Normal

October 21st, 2009
8:31 am

Mrs. Godzilla

October 21st, 2009
8:24 am

:D

Mrs. Godzilla

October 21st, 2009
8:32 am

I see where Liz is afraid of Rachel…..

Jimmy Carter

October 21st, 2009
8:32 am

Ah yes, the democrats, the supposed “party of the people”.

“Rep. Edolphus Towns (D-N.Y.) locked Republicans out of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee room to keep them from meeting when Democrats aren’t present.

Towns’ action came after repeated public ridicule from the leading Republican on the committee, Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), over Towns’s failure to launch an investigation into Countrywide Mortgage’s reported sweetheart deals to VIPs.

For months Towns has refused Republican requests to subpoena records in the case. Last Thursday Committee Republicans, led by Issa, were poised to force an open vote on the subpoenas at a Committee mark-up meeting. The mark-up was abruptly canceled. Only Republicans showed up while Democrats chairs remained empty.”

N.J.

October 21st, 2009
8:33 am

Still, a lot more accomplished than the last administration did.

The primary reason for secrecy… Israel attacked the legitimate reactor that Iraq had, the Osirak reactor. Which was built legitimately with U.S. approval, as the U.S. asked the French to provide it, the IAEA inspected regularly and found Iraq in compliance with all rules. But Israel blew it up. Iran expects the same so it build a new reactor in a new place that would be more difficult for Israel to strike.

When one asks why Iran builds in secret, the answer lies in the fact that Israel has already attacked a legitimate reactor site, and let the world know it.

The biggest problem in the draft resolutions is that Iran wants guarantees that if Israel attacks a legitimate reactor, there will be heavy consequences for Israel, something that the U.S. would be reluctant to offer.

stands for decibels

October 21st, 2009
8:35 am

I see where Liz is afraid of Rachel…..

Huh? Liz Cheney being afraid of getting called out on her neocon bull pucky by someone with a brain and a pair of ovaries?

Saints preserve us!

“We have called her many, many, many times, including twice on Friday. So far she has declined every single invitation that we have extended.”

Added Maddow: “I understand. A lot of people say no to being on this show, but not a lot of them do so while claiming that MSNBC is afraid to debate them.”

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

October 21st, 2009
8:38 am

Well, I’m with Turd Lemonade. The only deal Iran should get from us is us agreeing not to spread salt on all the land after we turn the whole country into glowing green cinders. It’s the Christian thing to do.

Have a good day everybody.

Joey

October 21st, 2009
8:40 am

Iran to give up its pursuit of a nuclear weapon? Color me skeptical.

Jimmy Carter

October 21st, 2009
8:41 am

Hahahahahahahahaha!!! Thought I’d try something. I just hit the submit comment link and my “enter your comments here” post is “awaiting moderation”. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

N.J.

October 21st, 2009
8:42 am

Actually the CNN poll is again, being “interpreted” by the media, in ways that do not exist in the poll itself.

The same poll has 66 percent of Americans saying that Obama has:

“Please tell me whether you agree or disagree that Barack Obama has the personality and leadership qualities a president should have.”

and 70 percent:

“Regardless of how you feel about Obama, do you feel proud that a U.S. president won the Nobel Peace Prize, or don’t you feel that way?”

And of course Obama’s FAVORABILITY rating is now close to the highs he experienced at inauguration 60 percent from the SAME CNN poll:

Barack Obama: Favorability Ratings

Data are from nationwide surveys of Americans 18 & older.

CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll. Oct. 16-18, 2009. N=1,038 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3. LV = likely voters. RV = registered voters. Results based on adults, except where noted.

.

“We’d like to get your overall opinion of some people in the news. As I read each name, please say if you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of these people — or if you have never heard of them. Barack Obama.

.

Favorable 60%

Unfavorable 39%

Never
Heard of 0%

Unsure 1%

10/16-18/09

Which explains why Obama’s favorability ratings are going UP rather than down. It also makes Obama the most popular president in American history at this point in his presidency (autumn after inauguration) Reagan wasn’t even CLOSE at this point of his presidency, with about 50 percent favorability.

Kamchak

October 21st, 2009
8:43 am

This comments thread is worthless without the comic value of a heart-fluttering @@ telling us she misses her War Daddy Preznit and gosh-durn it, Stratfor has this article that proves how Everything You Know is Wrong.

I admire the way you can pack so much in thirty words or less.

AmVet

October 21st, 2009
8:47 am

Maybe Ronnie Raygun could just go ahead and sell them some plutonium.

And then fund a bunch of other murderous dictators in central American and around the globe.

What???

He’s dead???

But these people keep talking about him ALL the time! How he’s done this and how he’s done that!

Dang. Never mind…

Jay

October 21st, 2009
8:53 am

That’s because I did it manually, Mr. Carter — a bit of housecleaning on the thread. “Enter your comments here” did not seem like much of a contribution to the discussion.

Geezz.

Taxpayer

October 21st, 2009
8:53 am

American history is littered with examples of the government and powerful corporations callously jeopardizing the health and even the lives of the poor, the downtrodden and racial and ethnic minorities. But nuclear testing illustrates a much different lesson: we all share the same Earth. The rain that carried the radiation fell on the progeny of politicians and generals as well as the children of farm laborers and ditch-diggers. There was as much Strontium-90 in the milk fed to infants in wealthy suburbs as in the milk on sale in bodegas across the street from housing projects.

stands for decibels

October 21st, 2009
8:58 am

Geezz.

You’re expecting rational thought from a man who nurses a grudge against a President who left office 29 years ago?

RW-(the original)

October 21st, 2009
8:59 am

I would think “Jimmy Carter’s” enter your comments here message adds at least as much to the discussion as “sfb” coming in with nothing but a personal attack on another blogger at 8:25.

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Wasn’t it also an AP breaking news flash that told us a couple of years ago that Iran had suspended their nuclear ambitions in 2003 by cherry picking an intelligence estimate?

USinUK

October 21st, 2009
9:00 am

Normal – just got back from lunch and saw your note from downstairs – VERY cool thing to do for your mom!!!

Taxpayer

October 21st, 2009
9:03 am

cherry picking an intelligence estimate

The nerve of some people. Bushwhacking others with lies, deceit and obfuscation. Who would do such a thing. :roll:

USinUK

October 21st, 2009
9:05 am

Kam –

“I admire the way you can pack so much in thirty words or less.”

I’m with you – the only way dB could improve was if it was reduced to a haiku …

AmVet

October 21st, 2009
9:07 am

For my reactionary friends who pine for the good old 1950s…(Dig that sweet pedal steel.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FmLOP8G4pM

And one for Mr. McCain…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wbMqRO6lnc

Kamchak

October 21st, 2009
9:08 am

I would think “Jimmy Carter’s” enter your comments here message adds at least as much to the discussion as “sfb” coming in with nothing but a personal attack on another blogger at 8:25.

Of course you would never do that

david wayne osedach

October 21st, 2009
9:11 am

Draft or no draft. Embargo or no embargo Iran will develop nuclear weapons. That is the eventual reality we should start dealing with today.

USinUK

October 21st, 2009
9:14 am

Kam – (and Bosch, when he eventually arrives) –

here ya go … have a good splash around:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/

Jay

October 21st, 2009
9:15 am

RW asks:

“Wasn’t it also an AP breaking news flash that told us a couple of years ago that Iran had suspended their nuclear ambitions in 2003 by cherry picking an intelligence estimate?”

No. That was the very clear conclusion of a National Intelligence Estimate, compiled as a consensus of the CIA, NSA and the rest of the U.S. intelligence community. AP reported the conclusions accurately. Whether those conclusions were correct is another question.

Truth

October 21st, 2009
9:17 am

Jay…. Sort of like the Iraq WMD conclusions that libs like to call lies?

Marsh

October 21st, 2009
9:19 am

Mrs. G @ 8:32 & sfd @ 8:35,

So you’re, like, saying, like, Cheney is playing favorites among news agencies?

Normal

October 21st, 2009
9:20 am

USinUk, thanks…and if you know of any of those sites, please help.

On a lighter note, I found a great WWII music set from the BBC Orchestra. She will love those. One of my earliest memories was of her and Dad dancing to the radio.

USinUK

October 21st, 2009
9:21 am

“Jay…. Sort of like the Iraq WMD conclusions that libs like to call lies?”

actually, no. in the case of WMD there actually WERE conflicting reports coming out of Iraq – in that case, the Administration cherry picked the intel that corresponded with their desire to go to war.

nice try.

USinUK

October 21st, 2009
9:22 am

Normal – ” if you know of any of those sites, please help”

I’ll have a pootle around the intertubes later and see if I can find anything :-)

#1 Foxy Lady

October 21st, 2009
9:22 am

Another success noble peice and President Barak H. Obama – the 2009 Noble Piece Prize WINER.

Suck, Obama haters!!!

Normal

October 21st, 2009
9:24 am

USinUK

October 21st, 2009
9:22 am

Great! Thanks!!!! :D

RW-(the original)

October 21st, 2009
9:26 am

Well the question was actually rhetorical, but thanks for the info.

AmVet

October 21st, 2009
9:29 am

Kam, great link.

For you American Corporatocracy folks.

Ain’t singing for Coke. I got the real thing, baby…

http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=75

Jay

October 21st, 2009
9:30 am

Truth asks:

“Jay…. Sort of like the Iraq WMD conclusions that libs like to call lies?”

Actually, Truth, I too thought Iraq had WMD, at least in the form of chem and bio, and I said so at the time. But by the time we kicked the inspectors out of Iraq in preparations for the invasion, it had become clear that at the very least, those claims were exaggerated.

The downright lies came in the claims that Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden were allies, that Saddam might give WMD to bin Laden, that Saddam was actively seeking nuclear weapons, that we would be greeted like liberators, that the “smoking gun” might come in the form of a mushroom cloud over an American city, that Iraq would finance its own reconstruction, that we would be in and out in a matter of months.

THOSE were the lies.

N.J.

October 21st, 2009
9:31 am

Reagan is primarily responsible for the mess it finds itself in today. There are always long term consequences for actions. 200 years from now Carter will probably stand out as the one of the most important and visionary presidents in American history.

Had Carter and not Reagan been re-elected, the Soviets would have remained in Afghanistan. It would have been a much more difficult place for Bin Laden to get his start and for Afghanistan to become the place to train the 9/11 attackers.

Had Carters energy independence initiatives remained in place, we would be a lot closer to thermonuclear reactors. Reagan shut down the funding to the Inertial Fusion Reactor project, which was making massive leaps towards the energy break even point. It does away with the need to contain a high temperature, high energy “magnetic bottle to contain a 50 million degree plasma field.

It works like a four stroke engine in a car:

Overall principles of an IFE reactor

For an easier understanding, it is worth using the analogy of operation between an IFE reactor and a gasoline engine. By applying such an analogy, the process may be seen as a four strokes cycle:
intake of the fusion fuel (microcapsule) into the reactor chamber;
compression of the microcapsule in order to initiate the fusion reactions;
explosion of the plasma created during the compression stroke, leading to the release of fusion energy;
exhaust of the reaction residue, which will be treated afterwards to extract all the reusable elements, mainly tritium.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_fusion_power_plant

Essentially it uses a bunch of lasers all relatively weak, which cross their beams over in the center of a chamber. Only a small spot in the center reaches the temperatures high enough to create fusion.

A small pellet made up of lithium with a heavy water core, is fired into the center of the beams and this sets off a tiny thermonuclear explosion, like a spark plug sets off gas vapors in an automobile engine. This is used to drive a generator.

The project was well into its second phase when Reagan cut the funding and diverted it to “oil exploration”

The U.S. Navy (EMC2 Fusion Project) started research up again in 2004, and will reach second phase by next year.

Had this continued 30 years ago (the project started in the U.S. in 1977) nuclear reactors would be a thing of the past by now.
Of course we have to rely on the French for technical guidance in the field.

Turd Ferguson

October 21st, 2009
9:31 am

Sing along sheep…BAAH!!

WASTED WORDS

Can you tell me, tell me, friend, just exactly where I’ve been?
Is that so much to ask? I’ll pay you back no matter what the task.
You seem really sure ’bout something I don’t know,
take that load off, looks like chest’s about to go.
Your wasted words already been heard, are you really God, yes or no?

Well, all day and half the night you’re walkin’ round lookin’ such a fright.
Is it me or is it you? I’d make a wager and I’d hope you lose.
Time’s gone, looks like Rome is ’bout to fall,
Next time take the elevator, please don’t crawl.
Your wasted words so absurd, are you really Satan, yes or no?

Well, I ain’t no saint and you sure as hell ain’t no savior,
Every other Christmas I would practice good behavior.
That was then, this is now, don’t ask me to be Mister Clean,
’cause baby, I don’t know how.
Ring my phone ’bout ten more times, we will see,
find that broke down line and let it be.
Your wasted words wiill never be heard, go on home baby and watch it on TV.

Weekday soap-box speciality, you know what I’m talkin’ ’bout now,
By the way, this song’s for you, sincerely, me

USinUK

October 21st, 2009
9:32 am

Normal –

“I found a great WWII music set from the BBC Orchestra”

dammitall … now you’ve planted Glenn Miller’s “String of Pearls” in my head … thanks a lot … :-P

@@

October 21st, 2009
9:32 am

sfd:

You don’t like the STRATFOR excerpts? Don’t read ‘em. Why spend effort pointing out a reference to them?

Had you gone to AP yesterday, you would have seen them reporting the same thing. Here….let me show you:

VIENNA (AP) — Talks meant to persuade Iran to send most of its enriched uranium abroad — and thus delay its potential to make a nuclear weapon — bogged down Tuesday over fierce Iranian resistance to French participation, diplomats said.

Tuesday was the second day of talks in the Austrian capital between Iran and the United States, Russia and France over Iran’s nuclear program. But discussions were delayed at least two hours in an attempt to resolve the impasse over the French.

Now…let’s go to an AP mishap back in 2004, shall we? The left-wing sites were eager to point this one out:

Expert Warns of al-Qaida-Linked Groups

By YEOH EN-LAI
Associated Press Writer
January 7, 2004, 10:03 AM EST

SINGAPORE — Al-Qaida-linked groups are training and recruiting militants to carry out suicide attacks that have become Osama bin Laden’s “greatest achievement” as his brand of extremist Islam spreads around the world, a terrorism expert said Wednesday.

The greatest threats include Al Ansar Al Islami in Iraq, Jemaah Islamiyah in Southeast Asia, Al Ansar Mujahidin in Chechnya, the Taliban in Afghanistan and the Salafi Group for Call and Combat in Algeria, Rohan Gunaratna told a Southeast Asian outlook forum.

But…

After The Sunday Age made detailed checks on Gunaratna’s biographical details, he confirmed last week that there was no such position as principal investigator at the UN’s Terrorism Prevention Branch and he worked there in 2001-02 as a research consultant. He also confirmed that, rather than directly addressing the UN, Congress and the Australian Parliament, he had actually spoken at a seminar organised by the parliamentary library, given evidence to a congressional hearing on terrorism and delivered a research paper to a conference on terrorism organised by the UN’s Department for Disarmament Affairs.

““““““““““““““““

Kamchak:

And here I thought the left’s goal was to be all sweetness and light in the interest of what was it? Civility. On last night’s thread, I was gracious enough to offer you a compliment.

You leftists never change. You are, and always will be small and petty people. Sweatin’ the petty stuff AND pettin’ the sweaty stuff.

I believe yesterday’s excerpt was from a STRATFOR “Analysis”. From the site:

Analyses – STRATFOR tells its Members what events in the world actually mean. We also tell you when events are much ado about nothing. Oftentimes the seemingly momentous is geopolitically irrelevant and vice versa. We discern what’s important objectively – without ideology, a partisan agenda, or a policy prescription.

Blog on little fellas. I’ll be back for your viewing pleasure when time allows. You too, USUK.

Don’t put yourselves out working too hard.

bob

October 21st, 2009
9:32 am

Taxpayer, I did not know it was republicans that set off all those nukes whether it was on American soil for practice or over Japan. I could go on about Dresden or the carpet bombing of Nam but it would most likely not matter to someone that thinks America’s bombing started with Bush. History shows how many more died under Democrats like LBJ and Truman but seem to miss that. I could be wrong but I just can’t find what American city that was attacked by Korea or Viet Nam, can you help me out ?

Mrs. Godzilla

October 21st, 2009
9:33 am

Marsh

Like No.

I meant exactly what I posted.

Specific words, specific meanings.

Try better bait.

TnGelding

October 21st, 2009
9:34 am

Much ado about nothing.

When will our leaders learn that we don’t have resources to waste on weapons? Has Iran ever instigated hostility toward one of its neighbors?

david wayne osedach

October 21st, 2009
9:11 am

So what if they do? We’re the only ones that have ever used them, great humanitarians that we be. I guess it’s too late to put that genie back in the bottle.

bob

October 21st, 2009
9:35 am

foxy, Obama could not even bring peace to Chicago !

jconservative

October 21st, 2009
9:35 am

” Iran and the U.S., Russia and France have signed off on a draft deal that he hoped would be approved by the nations’ capitals by Friday.”

China, Britain & Germany not involved? I would be suspicious if they are not.

pat

October 21st, 2009
9:40 am

Like N. Korea did, Iran is buying time to maneuver. They don’t want sanctions and they want they nukes. I see them scrapping and making repeated deals over and over again to give the appearance of cooperation.
This means nothing, it’s a smart move on their part, but I certainly hope nobody is fooled.
More than anything this is Israel’s problem. I say let them deal with it how they see fit and let us stay the hell out of it.

Brad Steel

October 21st, 2009
9:40 am

JB confesses: Actually, Truth, I too thought Iraq had WMD, at least in the form of chem and bio, and I said so at the time.

The context of this reiteration doesn’t seem sufficiently humble to be a mea culpa, but it seems to reaffirm that even the right-wing propaganda skeptics unfortunately were played by the Rove-Cheney self-serving lies.

The press should have been more skeptical of the spoon-fed “intelligence”.

Normal

October 21st, 2009
9:41 am

TnGelding

From downstairs, thank, Mom does eat well and we have little trouble there after we convinced her she wouldn’t get fat. 89 and worried about her figure. I love my Mom! :D

Kamchak

October 21st, 2009
9:42 am

Kamchak:

And here I thought the left’s goal was to be all sweetness and light in the interest of what was it? Civility. On last night’s thread, I was gracious enough to offer you a compliment.

Un compliment? Pour moi? Be still my fluttering heart. :roll:

Agnes

October 21st, 2009
9:42 am

Breitbart has released the Philadelphia (ACORN) Story video.
If you are interested go to Breitbart.tv.

Mrs. Godzilla

October 21st, 2009
9:42 am

Startfor 39.95/month

or

Click here to take advantage of 50% OFF regular subscription rates – offered exclusively for BillOReilly.com readers.

So, at a 66 cents to $1.33 a day…..I imagine they’re getting their moneys worth.

FrankLeeDarling

October 21st, 2009
9:43 am

The people of Iran are not evil,Iran is actually on the verge of joining the modern world.Unfortunately they have this crusty old religious system still clinging to them.I don’t think bombing them back to the stone age will help them shake off the fundies,Let’s think of better ways to win the culture war.
heart’s and minds

dw

October 21st, 2009
9:45 am

In a true gesture of liberal “progressive” fairness and open-mindedness, the U.S. should give each country a few nukes. To show our trust in the general human goodness of all. :-)

USinUK

October 21st, 2009
9:45 am

“Breitbart has released the Philadelphia (ACORN) Story video.
If you are interested go to Breitbart.tv.”

that’s right!! flog that dead horse a little more!!! flog it!!!

(although, I guess it beats what Washington state republicans were doing with horses … ewwwww)

Kamchak

October 21st, 2009
9:47 am

USinUK

Liverpool lost at Anfield? Rafa Benitez is hanging onto his job by a thread.

Truth

October 21st, 2009
9:48 am

I can respect your views on that, Jay. I just dont believe that they were “lies”. More like miscalculations in a time when he wanted to assure the safty of America. I am not totally convinced Saddam didn’t move some weapons out of Iraq before we invaded. Even if I am wrong about that, Saddam was purposly making the rest of the world believe that he did have those weapons so that countries like Iran would leave him alone.

Bush made many mistakes and made decisions that I don’t agree with, but I truely believe that he did what he thought needed to be done to make America as safe as possible.

USinUK

October 21st, 2009
9:49 am

the funny thing is that you actually have Man U fans encouraging Liverpool to get its act together … I mean, talk about “dogs and cats, living together!!”

Bosch

October 21st, 2009
9:50 am

No one can stop Iran from building a nuclear bomb, or using nuclear technology to do whatever they want. Let’s get real. And of course they are gonna say and do whatever – while giving the world the finger behind their back.

USinUK,

Thanks for the link earlier! :-)

USinUK

October 21st, 2009
9:54 am

Bosch – more footie news than you can shake a stick at …

Bosch

October 21st, 2009
9:54 am

Kamchak,

Oh yes. They did. Ugliness. I watched a bit of that game yesterday. Ya’ know that’s what I hate about professional sports – all this freaking out about one season. It’s one season – but I guess if I spent all that money for results, I’d be mad to.

Bosch

October 21st, 2009
9:54 am

USinUK @ 9:54 –

Fer rizzle.

Kamchak

October 21st, 2009
9:54 am

I mean, talk about “dogs and cats, living together!!”

The Blue Lions will eat them both.

Taxpayer

October 21st, 2009
9:55 am

bob

October 21st, 2009
9:32 am
Taxpayer, I did not know it was republicans that set off all those nukes whether it was on American soil for practice or over Japan. I could go on about Dresden or the carpet bombing of Nam but it would most likely not matter to someone that thinks America’s bombing started with Bush. History shows how many more died under Democrats like LBJ and Truman but seem to miss that. I could be wrong but I just can’t find what American city that was attacked by Korea or Viet Nam, can you help me out ?

bob,

You need more help than I can provide you. You might want to check with your healthcare provider, just to see if the care you need is covered.

Bosch

October 21st, 2009
9:56 am

Kamchak,

Thanks for posting that link – it reminded me we need to get our act together and buy Christmas presents!!

USinUK,

Is it against your law to buy Christmas presents before Halloween or just put the stuff out?

Del

October 21st, 2009
10:01 am

Jokerman

Oliver North was defending this country while you were unfortunately escaping the douche.

USinUK

October 21st, 2009
10:05 am

Bosch –

“Is it against your law to buy Christmas presents before Halloween or just put the stuff out?”

on Planet USinUK, you can buy Christmas presents throughout the year (although that does not give you the right to be smug when the rest of us are scrambling the week before Cmas) …

my ban is strictly on stores putting out Christmas decorations/toys/food/cards, etc before Halloween (if I was honest, I’d like to see the ban extended to Thanksgiving, but I’m willing to accept the realities of the retail market)

USinUK

October 21st, 2009
10:06 am

“Oliver North was defending this country ”

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha … (wiping tears streaming from eyes) … please. Ollie deserves to be in prison orange with numbers across his chest – he’s lucky that a technicality got him off …

USinUK

October 21st, 2009
10:06 am

Kam –

so why Chelsea??

getalife

October 21st, 2009
10:06 am

Amazing what Hillary is getting done.

Best ever.

Curious Observer

October 21st, 2009
10:06 am

The people of Iran are not evil,Iran is actually on the verge of joining the modern world.Unfortunately they have this crusty old religious system still clinging to them.I don’t think bombing them back to the stone age will help them shake off the fundies,Let’s think of better ways to win the culture war.

Yes, let’s ship the Iranians a few CDs of reality shows and perhaps an episode or two of Dancing with the Stars. In no time at all, they will “advance” to our level of sophistication.

Mrs. Godzilla

October 21st, 2009
10:08 am

would that be the same Ollie North that got his 3 felony convictions overturned with the help of the ACLU?

AmVet

October 21st, 2009
10:09 am

Good Old Ollie,

A highly decorated combat veteran who decided selling his soul for the Dictators for Ronnie Program would be worth disgracing himself and his country.

Fortunately for him and the document shredding President of the United States of America, a spineless US Congress and John Tower kept them from doing time in an 8 x 12…

Turd Ferguson

October 21st, 2009
10:10 am

Or perhaps some programs of Lawrence Welk with the “tiny bubbles” floating from behind the orchestra.

Well…then again, that would only incite them.

Nevermind.

USinUK

October 21st, 2009
10:13 am

TF –

now, no dissin on the Welk … I remember watching his show with my parents when I was a leeeeeetle girl …

Bosch

October 21st, 2009
10:13 am

USinUK,

That’s the way it is on Planet Bosch too. I don’t do stores much, so a large majority of my Christmas shopping happens on-line – you get free boxes to wrap the stuff in!!!

Hey Mrs. G!!

Bosch

October 21st, 2009
10:14 am

A one andda two…

stands for decibels

October 21st, 2009
10:17 am

then again, that would only incite them.

Did someone say “a-one and a-two”?

Mrs. Godzilla

October 21st, 2009
10:17 am

Hey Bosch

I sat on Granddad’s lap for Lawrence Welk….if he could catch me.

Dancing to Myron Floren on the accordian…..

Perhaps a Lawrence Welk tribute at our next Order of Obama meeting?

USinUK

October 21st, 2009
10:20 am

“Perhaps a Lawrence Welk tribute at our next Order of Obama meeting?”

don’t forget the lovely Lennon sisters!!!

Kamchak

October 21st, 2009
10:21 am

USinUK

Between 2001-2003 we had a WUSA team in Atlanta and I was an ardent fan. When the league folded I was a fan in search of a team. The Atlanta Beat had ties to Umbro via their uniforms and in 2003 Chelsea was an Umbro team. A silly reason, I know, but I had a love/hate relationship with Man U. Man U. is like the Dallas Cowboys–you either love them, or love to hate them. I was actually a fan of Man U. when spice dad was playing for them

Bosch

October 21st, 2009
10:24 am

’spice dad’

Where’s that keyboard/monitor cleaner?

OH YES!! A definite Welk tribute at the next O of O meeting. Where are all the wingnuts today? They must be having their own Sourpuss ‘R Us meeting or something.

USinUK

October 21st, 2009
10:25 am

Kam –

no sillier than me and my team – I really don’t do soccer, but when I do, I cheer for Sunderland … why? because my good friends and next-door-neighbors are from there

although, I am (as you may have guessed) a hu-hu-HUGE Peter Crouch fan.

Turd Ferguson

October 21st, 2009
10:25 am

AH!!! The Lennon Sisters…forgot about them.

“Tonights guests on the Andy Williams show…The Lennon Sister, The Osmond Brothers and the Amazing Juggling Bear”.

http://www.lennonsisters.com/

joe matarotz

October 21st, 2009
10:26 am

‘Most’ of their uranium is not ‘All’ of their uranium. Jimmy Carter Jr. probably can’t wait to break out the champagne but this is a big, smelly pile of diplomatic BS. The Iranians have given up nothing yet.

Mrs. Godzilla

October 21st, 2009
10:27 am

USinUK

I wanted so bad to be a Lennon sister, then my taste matured and I wanted to be a Supreme…..

USinUK

October 21st, 2009
10:29 am

Mrs. Godzilla

October 21st, 2009
10:30 am

we sent a lot of our uranium over into that general area in the last few years…..so very sad and wrong

Bosch

October 21st, 2009
10:33 am

USinUK,

Well, Crouch is one huge dude, so in order to be his fan, you’d almost HAVE to be a “huge” fan.

Snort.

Agnes

October 21st, 2009
10:34 am

Flog that dead horse? Yes.
Like that Bush lied dead horse.
Like that I inherited these problem from Bush dead horse.
Like that FoxNews is mean to my administration dead horse.

Marsh

October 21st, 2009
10:36 am

Mrs. G @ 9:33,

I think you may have misinterpreted.

Seems that cowardice runs in the Cheney family, the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree, battlefield combat is not for the Cheney brood, etc.

Mrs. Godzilla

October 21st, 2009
10:37 am

Agnes

The report of the death of that particular HERD of horses has been greatly exagerated!