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		<title>By: N.J.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2009/10/07/congressional-dems-get-bad-news-from-gallup/comment-page-5/#comment-134958</link>
		<dc:creator>N.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, recipes. I got on a bus yesterday because I hate driving, and the bus driver gave me a great recipe for Caribbean peas and rice. Good Book...:&quot;My Life With Picasso&quot;, by Francoise Gilot. No politics at all. Good DVD. Andre Techine&#039;s &quot;Les Roseaux Sauvage (The Wild Reeds) a coming of age movie about four kids getting out of high school. It proves that kids are kids pretty much everywhere in the world. Even politically. One kid is a communist and the other is a far right winger. The other two don&#039;t give a rats ass about politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, recipes. I got on a bus yesterday because I hate driving, and the bus driver gave me a great recipe for Caribbean peas and rice. Good Book&#8230;:&#8221;My Life With Picasso&#8221;, by Francoise Gilot. No politics at all. Good DVD. Andre Techine&#8217;s &#8220;Les Roseaux Sauvage (The Wild Reeds) a coming of age movie about four kids getting out of high school. It proves that kids are kids pretty much everywhere in the world. Even politically. One kid is a communist and the other is a far right winger. The other two don&#8217;t give a rats ass about politics.</p>
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		<title>By: N.J.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2009/10/07/congressional-dems-get-bad-news-from-gallup/comment-page-5/#comment-134953</link>
		<dc:creator>N.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It gets even better.  Most of the small business owners I have known who did not provide health insurance for their employees always managed to get their spouses some sort of job with governments. Depending on the size of their business, the level of government at which their spouses worked varied. But all of them were simply a means to get health insurance for the business owner and his family. Many of the people who worked for me in government were the wives of businessmen. They were quite opened about being there for the insurance.  And I had little choice in the hiring based on civil service rules. It was another amusing thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It gets even better.  Most of the small business owners I have known who did not provide health insurance for their employees always managed to get their spouses some sort of job with governments. Depending on the size of their business, the level of government at which their spouses worked varied. But all of them were simply a means to get health insurance for the business owner and his family. Many of the people who worked for me in government were the wives of businessmen. They were quite opened about being there for the insurance.  And I had little choice in the hiring based on civil service rules. It was another amusing thing.</p>
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		<title>By: N.J.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2009/10/07/congressional-dems-get-bad-news-from-gallup/comment-page-5/#comment-134950</link>
		<dc:creator>N.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the biggest right wing whack jobs I know work for the government.  Fundamentalist religious conservatives who voted against the taxes that paid their own salaries, put money into their pensions and provided them with health insurance. It was amusing to watch them, because conservatives who work for government have the same misguided sense when it comes to the value of their work as anyone does. Most of the people who work for government do more of real value than most small businesses do. The majority of small businesses do little more than provide fluff for people&#039;s lives... they don&#039;t put out fires or protect people&#039;s lives and property. Or even do as much as public libraries do. However it is more often than not that a fireman votes to cut the taxes that pay for their department&#039;s existence. My favorite is my own mailman. Right wing fanatic who does not get the irony that his government job is paying for his personal investment protocols.

Almost every right wing nut I know is complaining that the library in THEIR community is being closed. The fact that their library was costing too much money per person than those in other communities did not matter.  They wanted their library, that maybe 20 people visited per day, and cost more per visit than any other library in their county. It is truly fun to watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the biggest right wing whack jobs I know work for the government.  Fundamentalist religious conservatives who voted against the taxes that paid their own salaries, put money into their pensions and provided them with health insurance. It was amusing to watch them, because conservatives who work for government have the same misguided sense when it comes to the value of their work as anyone does. Most of the people who work for government do more of real value than most small businesses do. The majority of small businesses do little more than provide fluff for people&#8217;s lives&#8230; they don&#8217;t put out fires or protect people&#8217;s lives and property. Or even do as much as public libraries do. However it is more often than not that a fireman votes to cut the taxes that pay for their department&#8217;s existence. My favorite is my own mailman. Right wing fanatic who does not get the irony that his government job is paying for his personal investment protocols.</p>
<p>Almost every right wing nut I know is complaining that the library in THEIR community is being closed. The fact that their library was costing too much money per person than those in other communities did not matter.  They wanted their library, that maybe 20 people visited per day, and cost more per visit than any other library in their county. It is truly fun to watch.</p>
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		<title>By: N.J.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2009/10/07/congressional-dems-get-bad-news-from-gallup/comment-page-5/#comment-134943</link>
		<dc:creator>N.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jackie, that was not eight billion but EIGHTY ONE BILLION saved in the next decade.


The Republicans basically created the current unemployment mess and as usual they want to avoid paying for the consequences.  Three years ago, Democrats were talking about doing something that would have prevented the entire collapse of investment banking as well as the current recession. Republicans blocked it. Simply put Republicans insisted that subprime loan failures would have NO effect on the economy.  So when Democrat suggested assisting those who had subprime loans pay the higher rates when the adjustable rates doubled their monthly mortgages, the Republicans blocked the option. It would have cost significantly less than the TARP bailout with the additional effect of stopping the collapse of housing prices and the drop in the stock market. We would not have had to spend a 143 billion dollars in a tax rebate (which went mostly to the wealthy, because you had to pay taxes to actually get a rebate) and the later 900 billion for TARP. A trillion dollar expense could have been avoided for anywhere between 150 and 300 billion dollars. And the concurrent trillion dollar aggregate drop in the value of U.S. housing could have been avoided as well as the collapse of the mortgage based investment instruments that caused the collapse of economies around the world because they invested in American markets.

The theory of small government caused the collapse.

As usual Republicans blamed those who took the subprime loans, rather than those who caused the government to allow them.  This was the home building industry itself. Their market at saturated and first flattened out and then started to drop.  Everyone who could afford to buy a home had. They needed to tap a new market. Those who could NOT afford to buy one.

Over the last ten years, probably everyone has seen the various commercials that went something like &quot;Why Pay Rent when you can own for less&quot; Anyone who has actually bought a prime rate loan knows this is not possible and owning always ends up costing more than renting. But the housing industry needed to make sales, or collapse. So they pushed the government to make housing affordable to those who could not afford housing. Those who could not afford to buy or could not quality were resigned to renting and simply dreaming that maybe someday they would be rich enough to afford one. A nice but unlikely dream considering that over the last 30 years, except for a relatively short period under Clinton, no one moved out of the economic class they were in except for the rich. The rich got much richer, but nothing at all trickled down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackie, that was not eight billion but EIGHTY ONE BILLION saved in the next decade.</p>
<p>The Republicans basically created the current unemployment mess and as usual they want to avoid paying for the consequences.  Three years ago, Democrats were talking about doing something that would have prevented the entire collapse of investment banking as well as the current recession. Republicans blocked it. Simply put Republicans insisted that subprime loan failures would have NO effect on the economy.  So when Democrat suggested assisting those who had subprime loans pay the higher rates when the adjustable rates doubled their monthly mortgages, the Republicans blocked the option. It would have cost significantly less than the TARP bailout with the additional effect of stopping the collapse of housing prices and the drop in the stock market. We would not have had to spend a 143 billion dollars in a tax rebate (which went mostly to the wealthy, because you had to pay taxes to actually get a rebate) and the later 900 billion for TARP. A trillion dollar expense could have been avoided for anywhere between 150 and 300 billion dollars. And the concurrent trillion dollar aggregate drop in the value of U.S. housing could have been avoided as well as the collapse of the mortgage based investment instruments that caused the collapse of economies around the world because they invested in American markets.</p>
<p>The theory of small government caused the collapse.</p>
<p>As usual Republicans blamed those who took the subprime loans, rather than those who caused the government to allow them.  This was the home building industry itself. Their market at saturated and first flattened out and then started to drop.  Everyone who could afford to buy a home had. They needed to tap a new market. Those who could NOT afford to buy one.</p>
<p>Over the last ten years, probably everyone has seen the various commercials that went something like &#8220;Why Pay Rent when you can own for less&#8221; Anyone who has actually bought a prime rate loan knows this is not possible and owning always ends up costing more than renting. But the housing industry needed to make sales, or collapse. So they pushed the government to make housing affordable to those who could not afford housing. Those who could not afford to buy or could not quality were resigned to renting and simply dreaming that maybe someday they would be rich enough to afford one. A nice but unlikely dream considering that over the last 30 years, except for a relatively short period under Clinton, no one moved out of the economic class they were in except for the rich. The rich got much richer, but nothing at all trickled down.</p>
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		<title>By: Northern Songs, Ltd.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2009/10/07/congressional-dems-get-bad-news-from-gallup/comment-page-5/#comment-134853</link>
		<dc:creator>Northern Songs, Ltd.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Fox to see &#039;Rain&#039;??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Fox to see &#8216;Rain&#8217;??</p>
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		<title>By: Gale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys read such high-brow stuff.  I mostly read urban fantasy fluff.  Give me a good fantasy with a kick-azz heroine any day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys read such high-brow stuff.  I mostly read urban fantasy fluff.  Give me a good fantasy with a kick-azz heroine any day.</p>
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		<title>By: Gandalf, the Wise</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2009/10/07/congressional-dems-get-bad-news-from-gallup/comment-page-5/#comment-134843</link>
		<dc:creator>Gandalf, the Wise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess where the Gandalf&#039;s went last night....????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess where the Gandalf&#8217;s went last night&#8230;.????</p>
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		<title>By: Gandalf, the Wise</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2009/10/07/congressional-dems-get-bad-news-from-gallup/comment-page-5/#comment-134841</link>
		<dc:creator>Gandalf, the Wise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come together, right now, over me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come together, right now, over me!</p>
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		<title>By: Gandalf, the Wise</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2009/10/07/congressional-dems-get-bad-news-from-gallup/comment-page-5/#comment-134839</link>
		<dc:creator>Gandalf, the Wise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some say that I&#039;m a dreamer, but I&#039;m not the only one</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some say that I&#8217;m a dreamer, but I&#8217;m not the only one</p>
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		<title>By: Gandalf, the Wise</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2009/10/07/congressional-dems-get-bad-news-from-gallup/comment-page-5/#comment-134838</link>
		<dc:creator>Gandalf, the Wise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine all the people, living all as one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine all the people, living all as one&#8230;</p>
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