GOP’s ex-Senate leader Bill Frist says he backs health reform
Bill Frist, a physician and the Republicans’ Senate majority leader until 2007, says he supports the Obama health care plan and would vote for it if he were still in the Senate.
“I would end up voting for it,” he told Time magazine. “As leader, I would take heat for it. … That’s what leadership is all about.”
Reports Karen Tumulty:
“Frist also faults some in his own party for injecting alarmism into the debate. “Clearly, the death panels and public plan arguments have been overblown,” he says. Frist noted that Republicans themselves voted for a Medicare prescription drug bill that would have established a version of a public plan–with the government negotiating directly with drug companies–if private-sector competition had failed to materialize. That is similar to the approach that Republican Senator Olympia Snowe is taking with her amendment to establish a public option with a “trigger.”
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Rightwing Troll
October 4th, 2009
7:08 am
RINO RINO RINO…..
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Rightwing Troll
October 4th, 2009
7:09 am
Woo Hoo!
First troll of the day!!!!
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Steve
October 4th, 2009
7:17 am
Here we have an article claiming that the Rep are not supporting the bill for political reasons. This may make the people on the left “feel” good but it does not solve the problem of the Dems in moderate districts fearing for their careers if they vote for the bill.
The Dem have 60 votes in the Senate and left editorial hacks are blaming Rep. This deflection from the fact that the Dem can’t get all it’s member to support the same bill is politics. In essence Jay is the doing the samething as what he is claiming the Reps are doing. Unfortunately this may make those already on your side support you but it does not convince those in the middle you are correct.
Bud Wiser
October 4th, 2009
7:19 am
Oh yeah, this one really works for you guys.
Back when the vegetable known as Mary Schiavo was news, and Frist was against pulling her plug, to you left wing morons he had ZERO, NONE, ZILCH in credibility.
Now that he allegedly backs this plan, you like him, and he is worthwhile, and his opinions mean something?
Other than the complete and total hypocrisy that you consistently display on virtually every topic, lending convenient credibility now to a guy you once thought was a total idiot says more about the state of the DOA health plan, and your own complete lack of morals.
Impeach Obama.
Redneck
October 4th, 2009
7:31 am
HR 3200 is over 1000 pages which changes all other laws/regulations affecting health care. Not even the staffers know every thing about the bill. They only know what is in the sections they worked on.
My question is, why do you have to change the entire health care system? Why can’t you stop the fraud, waste and abuse that is eating up 10-20% of the health care funds, enact real tort reform, and go after those who use medical facilities and claim they are unable to pay.
One other point. If the senate bill is so good why won’t they put the bill out there where everyone can see it before debating it!!!
jokerman
October 4th, 2009
7:37 am
Steve … Years ago Will Rogers said “Democrats never agree on anything, that’s why they’re Democrats. If they agreed with each other, they would be Republicans.”
Holds true to this very day!
Cherokee
October 4th, 2009
7:44 am
Redneck, because there isn’t a Senate bill yet – they’re still working on it.
Of course Bill Frist wouldn’t have voted for the bill. All Republicans, except for a couple sane ones like Lindsay Graham, are scared to death of their leaders Limbaugh and Hannity and Beck.
Of course, as Steve notes, the Dems are not exactly paragons of bravery either.
Mrs. Godzilla
October 4th, 2009
7:50 am
For Mimi
1925 – 2009
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=unforgettable+nat+king+cole+natalie+cole&search_type=&aq=2&oq=unforgettable
mike
October 4th, 2009
7:54 am
Cherokee –
If you want to see how a real journalist makes a health care reform argument, check out Nic Kristof:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/04/opinion/04kristof.html
He makes a powerful argument for health care reform and doesn’t attack anyone, Gosh, somehow he managed to explain his policy position without even saying the word “Republican” or “conservative”! How about that!
Now making a logical argument without partisan politics as its focal point might not give folks like Cherokee the launching point to attack Republicans, but it actually might sway some people who are sitting on the fence. Jay’s dreck only appears to folks who want to tear each other down by party affiliation.
That AJC should dump Jay and Tucker and syndicate a more thoughtful and meaningful liberal pundit like Kristof. Such a move would save the AJC a lot of money and raise its journalistic standards immediately. The AJC could then focus its resources on local news instead of wasting money of Jay’s undifferentiated partisan twaddle.
Chuck
October 4th, 2009
8:00 am
If you would like to take a stand for real health care reform please join our voting bloc at:
http://www.votingbloc.org/Health_Bloc.phpre
JimNATL
October 4th, 2009
8:19 am
So is Frist back to enjoying his family fortune made off the backs of the insured? Of course he is for a way for all those uninsured, that HCA cast out on the street over the years, to pay and stay. They wouldn’t send away uninsured women who were delivering babies, as has been reported at HCA hospitals, if they had a public option to pay. As far as his credibility in the Shiavo case, you’re damned right he was not qualified to diagnose from a couple of video shots. No one was. But, in this case, he is qualified. He has plenty of knowledge about how this system doesn’t work.
The South Rules
October 4th, 2009
8:19 am
Meanwhile, 8 more soldiers die as Barry and Mrs. Obozo go on a date night
Mmm, mmm, mmm…..Barack HUSSEIN Obama…..He likes to dine while soldiers die…..mmm, mmm, mmm…..Barack HUSSEIN Obama
candide
October 4th, 2009
8:21 am
Frist’s comment shows that only when you are out of politics can Republicans have the courage to buck the fascists who control their party.
Bob
October 4th, 2009
8:33 am
so, according to candide, the party that does not want to takeover the industry are the facists.
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
October 4th, 2009
8:42 am
Well, good for frist, after all those years of democrats sneering at his every word, he’s finally hit the big time.
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
October 4th, 2009
8:45 am
Facing a 26-year-high unemployment rate of 9.8% here at home, the White House ought to have done some homework before sending the president off on one knee, putting not only his personal reputation on the line, but the prestige of his nation. NY Post
Mmmm, mmmm, mmmm, Barak Hussein Obama!
Frist who?
dmac
October 4th, 2009
8:47 am
The Republicans (plus Max Baucus and some other Dems) are doing what the interested corporations want. That’s what keeps the money going in a circular motion.
jt
October 4th, 2009
8:53 am
Whatever kind of pale, white sausage is vomited forth from this congress concerning health care “reform”, it is assured that the Internal Revenue Service will play a prominent role.
The IRS will force us to eat it, and it will sicken us.
Then the government can “rescue” us again in a few years.
The South Rules
October 4th, 2009
9:00 am
Mmm, mmm, mmm…..Barack Hussein Obama….he really is a Muslim, but he’s very afraid to tell’em….mmm, mmm, mmm….Barack Hussein Obama
jt
October 4th, 2009
9:02 am
has also lobbied for Goldman, among many other corporate clients in opposition to the populist policies he once championed.
Barack Obama promised a change from this revolving-door, behind-closed-doors collaboration between special interests and government. He vowed to “do our business in the light of day” — with health care negotiations broadcast on C-Span — and to “restore the vital trust between people and their government.” He said, “I intend to tell the corporate lobbyists that their days of setting the agenda in Washington are over.” That those lobbyists would so extravagantly flaunt their undiminished role shows just how little they believe that a new sheriff has arrived in Dodge.
In his scathing Wall Street Journal column on The Post articles last week, Thomas Frank crystallized the gap between Obama’s pledge and this reality. “There is something uniquely depressing about the fact that the National Portrait Gallery’s version of the Barack Obama ‘Hope’ poster previously belonged to a pair of lobbyists.” That’s no joke: It was donated by Tony and Heather Podesta.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/04/opinion/04rich.html?_r=1&ref=opinion
How could anybody keep voting these parties in?
stands for decibels
October 4th, 2009
9:02 am
I don’t believe that if still in the Senate, he would buck his party and vote for it.
Nor do I.
Still, when the history is written and the section entitled “Mitigating Factors” is included, this one will be there; it goes a wee bit of the way way toward making me want to forgive him, just a little, for his infamous remote diagnosis offered some 4½ years ago.
stands for decibels
October 4th, 2009
9:03 am
Arg. My 9.02 has Teh Slanties.
Oh well, y’all will figure it out.
stands for decibels
October 4th, 2009
9:04 am
scathing Wall Street Journal column
snort. You might as well have written “yelpings heard from the asylum walls.”
Road Scholar
October 4th, 2009
9:06 am
The South Rules: So what did you do last night to address Iran/Iraq/Afganastan? Healthcare? Watch UGA football? Give me a break!
Mrs G: Sorry for your loss.
Taxpayer
October 4th, 2009
9:07 am
Well, it is another beautiful fall morning, Jay. So, who is this Frist guy. Is he related to Gingrich or another from that failure of a movement — the contract on America. Maybe they should get together over beers and talk about the good old days on Air Force One.
So, I hope some of you managed to get out yesterday and enjoy the weather and the festivals. It is that time of year.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
October 4th, 2009
9:10 am
Well, I might of knowed. This Bill Frist that I thought was decent and wanting to keep this Mary Schiavo alive, because she smiled and all, done turned into a librul. The same guy that said he would use the atomic option if the two Conservative judges wasn’t approved. It just goes to show how Sinful this world is that somebody that was good and decent when he was in the Senate could turn into a librul when he left it. Frist needs to hit his knees and beg for forgiveness–first from Rush and Sean and then from God. I’m going down to the Church of Holiness in a few minutes and pray for his soul. This man needs lots of help.
Anyhow, it just goes to show the Sinful World is too much for mortal man.
Have a good Sabbath everybody.
RW-(the original)
October 4th, 2009
9:10 am
Enter your comments here–
Mrs G,
My condolences and prayers.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I thought I overused the word “but” until I read that last sentence. Even I don’t think I could pack three of them in a fifteen word sentence.
But But some, given the chance, would support it but are being cowed into submission.
stands for decibels
October 4th, 2009
9:12 am
failure of a movement
such epic irregularity would explain a lot.
stands for decibels
October 4th, 2009
9:14 am
Dear me, I just saw. Mrs. G’s post @ 7.50.
My sincere condolences.
I will be thinking of her in service today.
stands for decibels
October 4th, 2009
9:14 am
(and thanks, RW, for your post @ 9.10, without which I might have gone on in my hideously, cluelessly snarktacular way.)
Road Scholar
October 4th, 2009
9:15 am
Just heard Saxby say that we should impose sanctions on Iran now and then sit down and talk. Interesting scenario. Why don’t we cancel Congressional healthcare until they come up with a bill that correects the problems and passes? Then we can do the same for the transportation bill, world climate change, …etc. Hit them in their wallets like they do us!
Taxpayer
October 4th, 2009
9:16 am
such epic irregularity would explain a lot
What can I say. In the right hands, it could have been so constitutional.
stands for decibels
October 4th, 2009
9:18 am
Hit them in their wallets like they do us!
While such sentiments are very popular and get lots of whoops and cheers, as legislated, such actions (I think) just incentivize our already-corrupt reps and senators to seek the help of those who can lend them a hand.
Put another way, I’d much rather be paying them out of my own pocket than paying them via some lobbiest.
But I’m weird that way–I tend to think their salaries ought to be a good deal higher, given the sort of responsibilities they have.
Brad Steel
October 4th, 2009
9:18 am
mike,
it’s good to see that you are up early in the morning sharing your genius ideas with the world. everyone was waiting with bated breath to read more of your fart-in-your-hand-then smell-it suggestions and ideas.
it’s a real revelation today. cut-n-paste a nytimes op-ed a put him in the ajc. that’s pure hand-fart’n genius.
josef nix
October 4th, 2009
9:20 am
My and my family’s condolences on your loss. You and yours are in our thoughts and prayers.
Cherokee
October 4th, 2009
9:23 am
For what it’s worth, Mike, I didn’t attack Republicans. I attacked you, and your obnoxious and ongoing attacks on the host of this blog; the person and organization who provides you with the venue for making your comments.
Perhaps mores are different in New Jersey, but in Iowa, my mom would have had a fit if I had been so rude as to attack a person who provided me a place to do anything. (And since I have a few friends from Jersey, I doubt that things are much different there.)
The South Rules
October 4th, 2009
9:24 am
Mmm, mmm, mmm……Barack Hussein Obama……he says to kiss his hand ’cause his wiser, but all he ever was was a community organizer…..mmm, mmm, mmm…..Barack Hussein Obama
josef nix
October 4th, 2009
9:25 am
“It does, however, suggest just how much politics is being played here. A lot of Republicans, maybe most Republicans, honestly do oppose the bill. But But some, given the chance, would support it but are being cowed into submission.”
It’s not just Republicans. The Democrats are playing politics, too. They’re politicians. That’s what they do. Jay’s got a firm grasp of at least half of the obvious. Looks to me like he’s been taking Engrish lessons from us, though.
Angry Black Man
October 4th, 2009
9:26 am
Mrs. G
My condolences to you and your family. I’ll keep you in my prayers.
Normal
October 4th, 2009
9:29 am
Mrs. G. My condolences too, May the Creator give you and your family peace and strength…
Kathy W
October 4th, 2009
9:29 am
From Steve at 7:17…This may make the people on the left “feel” good but it does not solve the problem of the Dems in moderate districts fearing for their careers if they vote for the bill.
“..fearing for their careers…” That’s the problem, “career politicians.”
Normal
October 4th, 2009
9:30 am
MR. PRESIDENT, BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!
josef nix
October 4th, 2009
9:31 am
BTW–I’ve wound up on Saxby Chambliss’ e-mail list. I wrote him telling him what a jive-turkey I thought he is and to inform him I wouldn’t vote for him for dog-catcher. Now I’m his friend. Do they are their staff even bother to read what constituents say? And, no, this is not a GOP bash. I’ve got a nice little collection from John Lewis, too.
Taxpayer
October 4th, 2009
9:33 am
Mrs. G,
May she rest in peace.
josef nix
October 4th, 2009
9:37 am
Cherokee @ 9:23
“… your obnoxious and ongoing attacks on the host of this blog…”
Da-se-ti, da-se-ti!
AmVet
October 4th, 2009
9:37 am
Mrs. G, my sympathies to you and yours.
Life is sweet. Enjoy it every moment…
In lieu of a Friday night contribution, and for Mr. Frist and all those remote “diagnosers:…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJxeppC6NR4
Normal
October 4th, 2009
9:39 am
Josef, same here. I wrote him one time decrying a vote about something, and now I keep getting letters from him. The last one telling me how badly he wants me to file for flood relief. Even though I don’t need it. Another time I wrote him to help ensure our troops got the equipment they need to survive, and the reply I got back stated, “Thank you, for your concern over Stotomayors nomination”…
ah well…
The South Rules
October 4th, 2009
9:40 am
Mmm, mmm, mmm…..Barack Hussein Obama…..He thinks he’s the Dali Llama, but he really belongs in striped pajama…..what’chya gonna do for my mama?….mmm, mmm, mmm…..Barack Hussein Obama
jt
October 4th, 2009
9:41 am
jive-turkey????
That is funny Josef.
I will write too, and will reference jive-turkey. Maybe it will pierce his chicken-hawk, big-spending coorperate wh@re hide.
Jack
October 4th, 2009
9:44 am
This may be a little off topic, but I read in the AJC about a man killed in the parking lot of an adult club. I also read that he had six children. Was wondering if the Democrats’ health care reform would take care of the children
AmVet
October 4th, 2009
9:45 am
Saxby Chambliss is such a shameful man.
And my opinion of him as an utterly disgraceful failure as a man and a fraud as a representative of the people would not change one iota if he were a Democrat. Or any other label for that matter.
How do men like this get to enjoy these positions of power?
There must be more than this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpHveYQyPJw&feature=related
josef nix
October 4th, 2009
9:46 am
jt, normal
I got a whole chain of ‘em once from Lieberman when I brought him to task for parading around as such a good Jew and turning his back in Goebbels fashion on the one of the two groups of people in Western Civilization to have never fallen into government sanctioned anti-Semitism. I was thanked for my support, not once, not twice, but three times! Oy!
The South Rules
October 4th, 2009
9:46 am
Mmm, mmm, mmm…..Barack Hussein Obama……He’s causing the country alot of trauma, while he jets with Michelle to Bahama, to party with Mullah Osama, he’s ruining our futurama….mmm, mmm, mmm….Barack Hussein Obama
jt
October 4th, 2009
9:49 am
Enter your comments here
How do men like this get to enjoy these positions of power?
People vote for them after being divided on “wedge issues” at voting time.
Around 2012, gay marraige, taxes, wars, immigration, will suddenly become important to Chambliss again.
jt
October 4th, 2009
9:51 am
Enter your comments here
John Linder is my Rep and he has never failed to reply with personal letters. At this point, he and Ron Paul are the only politicians that I know of that have the voting record to back up their respective principles.
mike
October 4th, 2009
9:55 am
Brad Steel –
“it’s good to see that you are up early in the morning sharing your genius ideas with the world. everyone was waiting with bated breath to read more of your fart-in-your-hand-then smell-it suggestions and ideas.”
Blah, blah, blah.
Or do you consider the “creativity” of your personal attacks a substitiute for having a point?
“it’s a real revelation today. cut-n-paste a nytimes op-ed a put him in the ajc. that’s pure hand-fart’n genius.”
Wow! Using the word “fart” twice in such a short post! In two different contexts too! You are a true intellectual.
You seem to miss the point, that Jay is actually cutting and pasting ever day, but who cares. You have no point to make.)
My point was that opinion is dime a dozen. Take a look at this blog, for example. The AJC does not need to pay Jay a salry to cherry pick artciles and demonize Republicans. There are plenty of amatuers who are more than willing to step up to the plate.
The turht is that you would get the same comments on an AP news feed story and then you wouldn’t have to pay Bookman for his undifferentiated twaddle. Then you could devote more resources to what is actually different about the AJC: local content. You could syndicate a few columnists and leave the comments sections open on news stories to allow folks like yourself to hate others and say “fart”.
The AJC is dying and I am just making a reasonable suggestion on how they can find a way to survive. You like to say “fart.
Taxpayer
October 4th, 2009
10:00 am
Highlighting “Enter your comments here” before typing a comment is a bearable price to pay for no more annoying refresh problems although one does wonder why the statement isn’t simply removed and a bold label placed over the box such as Comment as is done for the other two boxes.
david wayne osedach
October 4th, 2009
10:09 am
It will be interesting to see if the Obama national health care plan passes during his first term in office.
South Rules
October 4th, 2009
10:12 am
Mmm, mmm, mmm…..Barack Hussein Obama…..he wants the kids to adore him, but most would rather ignore him, but he used to be head of ACORN, so good Americans must heap on him a lot of scorn…..mmm, mmm, mmm…..Barack Hussein Obama
Kayaker 71
October 4th, 2009
10:15 am
After Bozo’s failed attempt at securing the Olympic games for Chicago, it should become painfully obvious to all that world opinion tabs him as a real lightweight. Sadly, he is the only one who doesn’t get the message.
The leaders of the nations of the world from Chavez to Kim, from Putin to that idiot in Iran, all have him pegged….. why is it so hard for Bed Wet, Midori, Ms G and Taxpayer to get it?
The South Rules
October 4th, 2009
10:21 am
Mmm, mmm, mmm…..Barack Hussein Obama….. he got his feelings hurt, when Rio rubbed his face in the dirt, so now he’s chasing some skirts, but Michelle orders him not to flirt. So Barry feels very glum, so he’s going back to his Chicago slum, where Rev. Wright and he are chums……mmm, mmm, mmm…..Barack Hussein Obama
Normal
October 4th, 2009
10:22 am
Kayaker 71
October 4th, 2009
10:15 am
Kayaker, I think that the OIC thinks it is better than any mere country, and loves to tell a superpower country to “stuff” it. The OIC is merely a sports organization with delusions of grandeur and does not
represent the rest of the world.
AmVet
October 4th, 2009
10:30 am
jt, but how is it that the electorate can be so easily duped? Election after election after election?
This is perhaps the greatest heartbreak when I look at my beloved America,
I have spent the past ten years or more excoriating the corporate control of America. The ongoing corporate crime wave by utterly corrupted men who know they will never have to answer to justice. Or the rule of law. White collar criminals with complete impunity who are the de facto owners of our federal, and in many cases, our state and local governments. And who have ruined untold numbes of average, hard working American lives.
And much of my adult life I have tried to re-educate people about Eisenhower’s brilliant analysis of 1961 regrading the military industrial complex, its stranglehold on power and how the conned among us have already “failed to comprehend these grave implications”.
His portent for “the potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power…has in fact arrived.
Habeus corpus treated like some quaint outdated notion that applies to some other nation. Mega-corporations in bed with the Nixon-like wiretappers and federal spies. Detaining Americans, FOREVER, without even charging them.
So Ike’s warnings go unheeded, intentionally disregarded and in fact laughed at by the vicarious hawks and American fascists.
“Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry…so that security and liberty can prosper together.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY
Most people that I engage on these matters assure me they agree but…
Kayaker 71
October 4th, 2009
10:35 am
Normal,
Goes much further than the OIC, who, BTW, we thought were pretty special at various times in our past. If it were just the OIC, it would be great, but sadly, it isn’t. At these times of weakness in our leadership, the nut cases of the world become more bold. Even that moron Kadafi…. do you think that he would have made that speech at he UN if Reagan would have been president? He wouldn’t have even stepped foot in our country.
The next big debate will be Cap and Trade, followed by the king of them all, illegal immigration. Have you seen the proposed legislation toward illegal immigration recipients? All proposed by our far reaching, compassionate Democratic Congress. John Bayner called it a POS. It’s even worse than that. Stay tuned….. the big battle is yet to come.
TnGelding
October 4th, 2009
10:38 am
Of course he supports it. He’s in the business, which will reap a windfall.
I agree, he wouldn’t support it if he was still in the Senate. They’d run him out of town if he did.
Mike Licht
October 4th, 2009
10:38 am
The Reuplican Health Plan Card — don’t leave home without it!
See —
http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2009/10/04/republican-health-plan/
Normal
October 4th, 2009
11:01 am
Kayaker: Remember Tomcats 4, Libya )? That was when the good Col. was drawing the line of blood in ‘89. That was around the end of Ronnie’s term and the beginning of H. W. ’s term. So see, he did open his mouth back then . Today he’s just came off a pitiful to me.
Normal
October 4th, 2009
11:02 am
That’s Tomcats 4 libya 0
Taxpayer
October 4th, 2009
11:04 am
Get what, Kayaker.
NRB
October 4th, 2009
11:14 am
Jay, thank you for exposing the traitor. My, what a growing list. But it doesn’t matter THAT much. You’re not getting your filthy, commie “health” plan.
Bosch
October 4th, 2009
11:18 am
Mrs. G.,
My sympathies and thoughts are with you. You and Mr. G are good souls. You made the last part of her life safe and full, and I know the past few months you’ve had with her and the memories of her will make your life richer.
AmVet
October 4th, 2009
11:28 am
On a Sunday morning, for you “Christian” plutocracy and oligarchy enablers, I have some GREAT news!.
The wealthiest 1% of Americans now possess more money than approximately 290,000,000 American citizens.
There are now 400 Americans who have more money than 150,000,000 Americans combined. About half of our entire population.
PLEASE reduce their taxes so we can feel the “trickle down”!
For example, I believe it is unconscionable that Goldman Sachs which got $10 billion and debt guarantees from the U.S. government in October, expects to pay $14 million in taxes worldwide on revenues of 22.2 BILLION dollars.
Less than a 1% effective tax rate.
TOO MUCH!
Let the middle and lower class Americans pay more!
By all means, Mr. Reagan’s ghost and Mr Gingrich and Mr Bush et al, ad nauseum, PLEASE do give these struggling souls some MORE tax breaks and some MORE subsidies and some MORE corporate welfare.
Its the American thing to do…
RW-(the original)
October 4th, 2009
11:28 am
Enter your comments here–
I lost my moonbat decoder ring so can I get a little help from one of you that are fluent? Chuckie Schumer just said 65% of Americans are behind the Democrat health plan with a robust public option and we all know the Democrats can pass anything they want. He also said passing this is the hardest thing he’s had to try to do in his 35 years as a legislator.
With 60 votes and 65% support shouldn’t it be pretty easy?
jt
October 4th, 2009
11:30 am
Enter your comments here
jt, but how is it that the electorate can be so easily duped?
I am afraid that they aren’t.
Taxpayer
October 4th, 2009
11:33 am
And, after scanning yesterday’s posts, Bruno, have you considered branching out beyond the orthonormal. Besides, one is such a lonely number. So, this one’s for you. Now, quit thinking so linearly. Get out there and get bent.
jconservative
October 4th, 2009
11:34 am
Frist is just like Lott was, Republican but conservative only on rare occasions.
Which is the Republican Party’s problem, conservative only on rare occasions.
jt
October 4th, 2009
11:41 am
C’mon AmVet,,, it is Sunday. To Equate Sir Reagan with who you did is sacrilege.
“By all means, Mr. Reagan’s ghost and Mr Gingrich and Mr Bush et al, ad nauseum, PLEASE do give these struggling souls some MORE tax breaks and some MORE subsidies and some MORE corporate welfare.”
Likewise the TRIAL LAWYERS.
Its the American thing to do.
AmVet
October 4th, 2009
11:45 am
“I am afraid that they aren’t.”
???
If the the debacles and results of the past three presidential elections haven’t convinced you, nothing will…
RW, were it 60% GOP control of the US Congress, of course it would be…
That is why I find JB’s swipe at The Remote Diagnoser so funny…
Public Option's Doing Swell
October 4th, 2009
11:54 am
What the Repubozos the party of “no ideas” always show you is what extremism is all about. Frist broke Medicare–maybe he realizes since people in Nashville that didn’t leave their babuhs hundreds of millions like the Frists can’t afford meds or insurance.
AmVet
October 4th, 2009
11:54 am
Associate him? He is their idol! Their mentor! They kiss his azz publicly every chance they get!
The fact remains that NO Republican president since Ike has done much more than help ruin the American economy. And then cloak it in flowery lingo for the dupes. Who don’t even warrant any Vaseline.
Reagan, Bush 41, Clinton, George of the Bungle and now BHO, among countless other professional liars and crooks, aka politicians, have determinedly set up the situation as it now exists. Capitalism bailed out by socialism. And elected “representatives” who are now paid by the fascists and gangster capitalists and who no longer even pretend to protect or advocate on behalf of “we the people”.
Unless of course, you think the resulting American oligarchy and plutocracy is a good thing.
Which if true, would not even surprise me…
Public Option's Doing Swell
October 4th, 2009
11:58 am
He wasn’t the remote diagnoser when he made the remote and stupid diagnosis that only a goofy thoracic surgeon would make when there is an MRI with NO FRIGGING brain tissue for fifteen frigging years. You don’t rehap someone with total deterioration of her brain.
But he’s got it right this time and the ’stremists are pissed–they’re always pissed because they always lose because they’re ideas are extremist and loopy.
Public Option's Doing Swell
October 4th, 2009
12:08 pm
More important than the Olympics (a non-story and a favor to Chicago)–they’re corrupt; every screwup would have been Obama’s in Chicago and their would have been a cascade of them in a Chicago that can’t clean up its slums or that suddenly all these neurosurgeons here are pissed at Frist’s long distance diagnosis in the face of a brainless MRI for 15 years, is this:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704471504574443353532223162.html
and this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/04/opinion/04rich.html?pagewanted=print
South Rules
October 4th, 2009
12:16 pm
Mmm, mmm, mmm….BArack Hussein Obama….he’s just another version, of that evil Xerxes, the Persian….we must resist like Leonidas, and find a man to unite us….otherwise Barry will take your dads and mommas, to General Hospital Obama, and to their deadly clinic, where they will sign their death panel edicts….mmm, mmm, mmm….Barack Hussein Obama
jt
October 4th, 2009
12:29 pm
Enter your comments here
In an interview, the late Ronald Reagan once stated, “I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism.” To be clear, this blog is not meant as an endorsement of the libertarian party. It is neutral on the issue. However, it is a thought provoking statement worth careful examination.
Just because a party takes a term that describes us does mean we adhere to that parties ideals.
In fact George Washington thought political parties would be the undoing of this nation and I would lean towards saying he was right.
Normal
October 4th, 2009
1:01 pm
DAMMIT MR PRESIDENT, BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!!
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20091003/AS.Afghanistan/
The Truth
October 4th, 2009
1:07 pm
Obama is corrupt, period.
Public Option's Doing Swell
October 4th, 2009
1:12 pm
Tenthers and Birthers Unite–Less spend a few million bucks for outside counsel to make the argument that will become the biggest laughing stock of appellate lawyuhs evrahwhere–the Tenth Amendment JawJaw don’t have to follow no federal law argument because but also it’s a sure winnuh ’cause Sonnyh traffic doctor loves it and so.
Public Option's Doing Swell
October 4th, 2009
1:14 pm
In the corruption category I’d put my money on John Ensign to be headed onto the Repubozo federal prison bus. Federal investigation has started and their chief snitch that Ensign cuckolded after mommy and daddy paid 100 grand to the cuckoldees already admits they violated the one year lobbying law.
Richard
October 4th, 2009
1:49 pm
Note to AmVet: About all those wealthy Americans, remember thaht the two richest people in America are staunch Democrats.
Richard
October 4th, 2009
2:19 pm
To Jack @ 9:44 The guy was formerly engaged to one of the “Real Housewifes” stars. He has six kids but has appearantly never been married. Is there not some sort of moral issue here?
Jackie
October 4th, 2009
2:57 pm
@AmVet
Federal law enforcement statistics show that corporate crime consumes $1.5 Trillion dollars each year whereas “street crime” consume $18 Billion.
This does not take into account the $100 Billion in insurance fraud; $250 billion in “fees.”
http://www.sheldensays.com/cost_of_corporate_crime.htm
Rant
October 4th, 2009
3:00 pm
So, which version of the health care reform bill are we discussing, and has anyone (including the public) actually seen a “final” version or versions for discussion?
Remember Dems — no matter how well sculpted, excrement is still excrement!!!
Joey
October 4th, 2009
3:03 pm
A lot of Democrats honestly do support the Bill(s). But some, maybe many, if given the chance, would oppose it. Unfortunately they are being bullied into submission.
The South Rules
October 4th, 2009
3:14 pm
Mmm, mmm, mmm….Barack Hussein Obama,
He says he’s change and hope,
but he’s really a chump playin’ rope-a-dope.
He says, don’t worry honey,
’cause he’s gonna give you free money.
He says don’t argue and gripe,
we can all just take a bong from his water pipe.
Mmm, mmm, mmm…. Barack Hussein Obama
jokerman
October 4th, 2009
3:21 pm
The South Rules; Keep your day job!
AmVet
October 4th, 2009
3:21 pm
Jackie, I remember from the Nixon days, how the conned touted themselves as tough on crime.
You know, the big law and order types?
Including Ronnie Raygun’s Wars on Everything Naughty it was all a grand hoax while they turned a blind eye to the REAL criminals while they took their money to pay for their campaigns.
Typical Republican double-speak and deception for their always ignorant and hyper-gullible “base”.
In reality, their idea of being tough on crime was to actually aide and abet the greatest American criminals since the Mafia gangs of the 1930s.
And then pretend they didn’t know they were thugs and thieves.
And now shrug their shoulders while millions of Americans languish as they’ve seen everything they’ve worked their entire lives for – their careers, their homes, their retirement funds, stolen by men who will never answer to the rule of law…
Midori
October 4th, 2009
3:42 pm
Jokerman,
AMEN!!
Repeat
October 4th, 2009
3:54 pm
Mm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said that all must lend a hand
To make this country strong again
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said we must be fair today
Equal work means equal pay
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said that we must take a stand
To make sure everyone gets a chance
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said red, yellow, black or white
All are equal in his sight
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
Yes!
Mmm, mmm, mm
Barack Hussein Obama
Public Option's Doing Swell
October 4th, 2009
4:01 pm
ah does lahk it when the sofistikated white redneck hicks tries to be poets. They write purty no day in their lives. They think Coleridge is a gas stove.
wet wiccan
October 4th, 2009
4:01 pm
Jackie @ 2:57 – Those numbers are truly sickening.
AmVet – I enjoyed your posts today. Speaking of the law and order days of the Reagan era, don’t forget that was also the beginning of the privatization of the prison system.
http://mediafilter.org/MFF/Prison.html
It is interesting that Wackenhut was one of the first to jump on that. They made so much money, now they have their own mercenary force in the Middle East, and all those defense contracts.