If Obama is a dictator, how must he be stopped?

Thomas Sowell says even many conservatives believe that Barack Obama is smart, but he goes on to make the clearly relevant point that, hey, Adolph Hitler was smart too.

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“His underlying beliefs may have been half-baked and his hatreds overwhelming, but he was a political genius when it came to carrying out his plans based on those beliefs and hatreds,” writes Sowell.

Juan Peron, the Argentine dictator, was also smart, says Sowell, before going on to make the implicit explicit:

“Someone recently pointed out how much Barack Obama’s style and strategies resemble those of Latin American charismatic despots — the takeover of industries by demagogues who never ran a business, the rousing rhetoric of resentment addressed to the masses, and the personal cult of the leader promoted by the media. Do we want to become the world’s largest banana republic?”

Neocon hero Michael Ledeen, one of the players in both Iran-Contra and the fabrication of a case for war against Iraq, claims in National Review, that Obama hates freedom, dislikes America and loves tyrants. In fact, Obama loves tyrants so much he wants to be one.

“I think he’d like to be more powerful, I think he is trying to get control over as much of our lives as he can, so that he can put an end to the annoying tumult of our public life, ” Ledeen claims, concluding that “Democratic leaders’ envy of tyrants’ power can be understood. But it can’t be forgiven.”

And of course, there’s the infamous NewsMax column, posted yesterday by one of its regular columnists and then pulled, claiming that “There is a remote, although gaining, possibility America’s military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the “Obama problem.”

“The Obama problem?”

John Perry, the author of the NewsMax piece, goes on to speculate:

“Will the day come when patriotic general and flag officers sit down with the president, or with those who control him, and work out the national equivalent of a “family intervention,” with some form of limited, shared responsibility?

Imagine a bloodless coup to restore and defend the Constitution through an interim administration that would do the serious business of governing and defending the nation. Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders would replace accountability-challenged, radical-left commissars. Having bonded with his twin teleprompters, the president would be detailed for ceremonial speech-making.

Military intervention is what Obama’s exponentially accelerating agenda for “fundamental change” toward a Marxist state is inviting upon America. A coup is not an ideal option, but Obama’s radical ideal is not acceptable or reversible.”

These people are crazy. But they’re not as crazy as some of the people who listen to them, read them and look to them for leadership. If you are a patriotic American told by those you admire that Obama is a Marxist/Nazi/Fascist/Peronista dictator in the making, ready to dump the Constitution and declare himself dictator, what is your duty to this country?

You know, just askin’.

323 comments Add your comment

Bud Wiser

September 30th, 2009
5:43 pm

Impeach Obama.

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

September 30th, 2009
5:47 pm

Thank you.

~~~~~

He’s already dumped the Constitution.

All we can do is hope the country survives until we can vote this um, clown, out of office.

You aren’t the slightest bit embarrassed by this bozo, are you, bookman?

Road Scholar

September 30th, 2009
5:50 pm

Yeah! Let’s elect dumb people to run our country! Wait; aren’t they already in the Congress?

jt

September 30th, 2009
5:55 pm

Obama is not nearly the threat that the House of Representatives is.

Paul/Wilson 2012

Only 1095 days to go.

@@

September 30th, 2009
5:55 pm

O.K., jay, I didn’t read your piece other than the first sentence. I’m on my way out to dinner.

This conservative doesn’t think Obama IS that smart at anything other than campaigning.

I don’t know if it’s true or not but Sarkozy thinks he’s naive and egotistical. That’s my take on him too. So egotistical that he puts himself first above all things. Something about his U.N. moment….didn’t wanna bring down his dream of a “nuclear free” world by announcing that Iran had a secret NUCLEAR FACILITY capable of makin’ da bomb.

I’m hoping he will so embarrass himself that he’ll just quit. I mean the guy never really held a full-time job for any length of time.

I think he’s a lemon enjoying the limelight – yellowish/green.

@@

September 30th, 2009
5:56 pm

make that “nuclear free world DOWN by announcing…”

Matilda

September 30th, 2009
6:01 pm

I think I’ll approach this like the Thanksgiving from heck. First, IGNORE (do not encourage) the bi-polar alkie uncle blathering his delusions at full volume. Walk away. Then send the screaming, spoiled children — angry they’ve been made to stop beating up on little Timmy, the special child — into the basement until their clueless mother fixes their plates on the card table in the den. Proceed directly to the kitchen for a cold beer, glass of wine, or if needed, a snifter of something more potent. Continue setting out food and utensils, basting, and carving, because, after all, there’s work to be done even though there are always some A**H0LES in the family who’d rather squawk and make trouble then be useful.

Normal

September 30th, 2009
6:02 pm

LONG LIVE THE NEW ORDER OF THE SOCIALISTIC REPUBLIC OF AMERICA. ALL HAIL EMPERIOR OBAMA, ALL HAIL! Booga, booga. Scared ya, didn’t I? :D

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

September 30th, 2009
6:06 pm

Having bonded with his twin teleprompters, the president would be detailed for ceremonial speech-making.

What do they think he’s doing now?

md

September 30th, 2009
6:09 pm

I’m not going to go off and label the guy a dictator, but there is a difference between “what can you do for your President” and “what can you do for your Country”. Slip of the tongue or subliminal message?

AmVet

September 30th, 2009
6:11 pm

These conned are not crazy.

They are just never-served, never-will cowards and newly outraged traitors.

And hate that they are absolutely powerless to change their atrocious lot in life.

So they feign respect for the US Constitution. And the rule of law. And justice.

Even after they cheered nonstop while the serially impeachable BushCo and DickHead wiped their arses with it for eight straight years.

Look around conned.

Nobody of note, believes you.

Thank _______ (insert your favorite deity here).

josef nix

September 30th, 2009
6:19 pm

“…Marxist/Nazi/Fascist/Peronista dictator in the making, ready to dump the Constitution and declare himself dictator, what is your duty to this country?”

The operative phrase here is “in the making.” No, he’s not there and as far as dumping the Constitution is concerned, DADT? Continued suspension of habeas corpus? Continued existence of Guantanamo Bay…Homeland Security? Ready to declare himself dictator? Far from “ready” and I doubt he ever would. Peron didn’t.

We’re a long way still from this scenario and, G-d willing we won’t go there, but what is the duty of those who read this road signs and the direction they’re pointing with unease? To watch and bear witness. Just because it’s coming from the lunatic fringe doesn’t mean there’s nothing to it…

md

September 30th, 2009
6:22 pm

The folks down in Venezuela actually elected their little dictator. Anyone want to debate whether he is or not?

Public Option's Doing Swell

September 30th, 2009
6:26 pm

“These people are crazy. But they’re not as crazy as some of the people who listen to them, read them and look to them for leadership. If you are a patriotic American told by those you admire that Obama is a Marxist/Nazi/Fascist/Peronista dictator in the making, ready to dump the

The people who look to them for leadership and listen to them are the bellshaped curve of commenters here.

jt

September 30th, 2009
6:28 pm

“ready to dump the Constitution and declare himself dictator, what is your duty to this country?”

As a good patriot, your first duty is to get in touch with all of your cell members, take over your nearest radio station, start broadcasting patriotic songs and wait for further orders.

What is your plan Jay?

Public Option's Doing Swell

September 30th, 2009
6:32 pm

AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka met with Rahm Emanuel this afternoon, and told him that they will not support Democrats who won’t vote for a public option. He told Emanuel he could take the dead horse Trigger and stuff it.

He also told him, they wouldn’t accept a tax on working union members for heathcare.

Republicans want you to die quickly. That’s your healthcare plan. No apologies needed. It’s what you stand for. You’re the party of Insurance profits when they act as Death Panels.

godless heathen

September 30th, 2009
6:33 pm

How’s that Public Option looking?

Public Option's Doing Swell

September 30th, 2009
6:33 pm

Jay’s plan is to let you keep spouting your craziness.

AmVet

September 30th, 2009
6:35 pm

Much of this sheer stupidity and anti-Americanism was born via Saint Ronnie’s 11th Commandment. Which was nailed to the White House door.

Your garden variety Party First, Party Last, Party Always conned are just slightly better versions of Tim McVeigh, Jim Adkisson and Randy Weaver.

No wonder they do so well among the closet secessionists…

DoggoneGA

September 30th, 2009
6:35 pm

“Slip of the tongue or subliminal message?”

Whichever it was…Kennedy must have made the same one…because I can remember, after his “Ask not” speech…being asked in school “What can we do to help the President?”

Oh, those socialist Presidents…they’re EVERYWHERE.

Paul

September 30th, 2009
6:36 pm

I love it when I read a column and a thought keeps going through my head. Then I read my thought in the column:

“These people are crazy.”

LOL!

@@ brings up a good point. A person can be smart. But other adjectives may apply. Not saying they do, but singulars are rarely make for an adequate description.

But ‘crazy’ comes close.

F. Sinkwich

September 30th, 2009
6:36 pm

Face the facts, folks.

Chairman O hates our way life and the foundation upon which this great country was conceived.

He bemoans our constitution as one which bestows “negative rights” upon our populace.

He not only refuses to acknowledge but apologizes for American Exceptionalism at any international venue.

He demeans profits, the basis of our economic system as “excess value.”

No wonder since he sat in a church for over two decades listening to his mentor “God damn America.”

He hates America. Did you vote for this?

RW-(the original)

September 30th, 2009
6:38 pm

Enter your comments here–

Only a writer would believe that people look to writers for leadership.

Public Option's Doing Swell

September 30th, 2009
6:39 pm

godless heathen

September 30th, 2009
6:33 pm
How’s that Public Option looking?

Damn fine.

It’s never been doing better. You think hicks from states representing 2.2% of the public option who are insurance company whores are an index of how it’s doing? You need me to find a How Congress Works book for ya on Amazon?

The public option has never looked more viable. Heathen girl is confused about what the Senate Finance Clommittee is. It’s composed of 13 people who are Republican and Blue Dog hookers for the insurance companies.

I’ll be glad to bet on Schumer and Rockerfeller representing a huge population percent of this country against Baucus in conference.

How ’bout you Congressional expert? ABCDEDG

There are five committees. Four of them have reported out a Public Option–a robust one. The House refuses to vote for a bill that doesn’t have one. The House is that other body besides the Senate.

The other committe in the Senate, Tom Harkin’s committee now has reported out a viable Public Option..

So there are 4 commitees with a public option. Pelosi says they aren’t passing a bill without it. Harkin says he fully supports a public option.

So the public option has never been better.

Always glad to educate. Any more questions? The CBO has csaid the public option saves $110 billion.

Apparently you waant to pay considerably more for your insurance and your medications–and you will need both at some point in your life–possibly soon.

jconservative

September 30th, 2009
6:39 pm

‘….and the personal cult of the leader promoted by the media…”

OMG it’s Ronald Reagan all over again.

“…defend the Constitution…”

How do you defend the Constitution & overthrow the Constitutionally elected President at the same time?

Answer: some have been proposing that since 1789. New to you but old to us lovers of history.

DoggoneGA

September 30th, 2009
6:39 pm

“F. Sinkwich”

Tell me…do the conned get a microchip implanted at birth that makes it IMPOSSIBLE for them to do anything but repeat the lies?

Nothing is Free

September 30th, 2009
6:40 pm

I just think it is very funny that the hysterical little twits that launched every conspiracy theory imaginable over the past eight years get their panties in a wad over disagreement with the bozo in the White House. AmVet is slobbering like an idiot and I would be willing to bet that he was the number one whiner on here for eight years.

Grow up, libs. Do you like what it’s like on the other side when you are trying to defend a politician?

Fun isn’t it? Now try to begin to grow a spine and stop whining. You elected the fool. Now take your medicine like a man and STOP WHINING, especially you, AMVet.

jt

September 30th, 2009
6:41 pm

closet secessionists…????

I don’t think so.

Public Option's Doing Swell

September 30th, 2009
6:42 pm

@ “Heathen girl”

How are the insurance company whores doing who represent 2.2% of the US population once that committee is through with their markup is on the onpoint question and how your middle school did at teaching you how Congress works is another on point question.

When insurance premiums go up, how does that put money in your pocket Heathen Girl?

We all look to you for leadership RW. You da man.

Public Option's Doing Swell

September 30th, 2009
6:43 pm

Nothing is Free

Competent, sophisticated, well educated. My kind of high road commenter right MD?

josef nix

September 30th, 2009
6:44 pm

Doggone–

Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country? Patriotism and civic responsibilit…

What can I do to help the p€sident? The cult of personality.

There’s a gulf between the two.

Public Option's Doing Swell

September 30th, 2009
6:45 pm

The Republican Health Care Plan is to die quickly while bankrupt. I love defending that statement. The trouble is here, that Repubs are so poorly educated there’s no way to debate with ‘em.

jt

September 30th, 2009
6:45 pm

Enter your comments here

How do you defend the Constitution & overthrow the Constitutionally elected President at the same time?

It is called impeachment.
But we can’t do this because it would be racist.

Nothing is Free

September 30th, 2009
6:46 pm

AmVet

Your panties are all in a big old wad tonight. But it’s good that you are here. You can empty out all that anger and no one gets hurt.

Let it flow, boy. Let’s have ALL your anger.

Public Option's Doing Swell

September 30th, 2009
6:46 pm

It could not be more fun to defend Alan Grayson. He’s 100% correct. Nothing like telling it like it is.

Republican Plan: Support your insurance company johns by becoming even more of a whore.

Public Option's Doing Swell

September 30th, 2009
6:48 pm

Congrats to insurance hooker Olympia Snowe who lacked the guts to bring her Trigger amendment (we’ve been in trigger mode for 15 years) to the hookers on her own Senate Finance Commitee because she knew she was being watched closely on TV and had no argument other than she’s a hooker.

F. Sinkwich

September 30th, 2009
6:48 pm

DoggoneGA, everything I said is truth. He hates America.

But you knew that.

Thanks.

Nothing is Free

September 30th, 2009
6:48 pm

Public Option’s Doing Swell

**How are the insurance company whores doing who represent 2.2% of the US population**

Yeah. Now there’s some intelligent debate.

People in glass houses . . .

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

September 30th, 2009
6:48 pm

Fwich- They hate America too.

Public Option's Doing Swell

September 30th, 2009
6:50 pm

Alan Grayson calling the Republican Healthcare Lack of Plan a “holocaust” was perfect phrasing.

Public Option's Doing Swell

September 30th, 2009
6:51 pm

Republicans who have the Health Care Plan of QDH (Quick Death Holocaust) are the prime haters of America. They have done more to wreck America in the past 10 years than any group at any other time.

They put up a pure bread moron for VP who has read no books period in her life and when asked could not name any. Deer in Headlights cubed.

DoggoneGA

September 30th, 2009
6:52 pm

“What can I do to help the p€sident? The cult of personality”

Josef…go back and read what I wrote again. AFTER that speech, my TEACHER asked “What can we do to help the PRESIDENT?” Not “our country”

Cult of personality for one…same for the other. For me, I think it’s…as usual…a tempest in a teapot.

Taxpayer

September 30th, 2009
6:52 pm

Again, I find myself in need of apologizing for voting for Bush. In my defense, I was working 60+ hour weeks at that time and I just did not have the time to do the research that I should have done. They took advantage of my Christian ‘up bringing’ but now I know them for what they are and I also have the time to do a more thorough examination of their claims. Are the Democrats perfect? No. But, they are not like these Republicans and that will suffice.

Public Option's Doing Swell

September 30th, 2009
6:53 pm

I voted for BHO and the alternatives were stunningly pathetic. We’ll continue to crush the mentally ill extreemists you put up.

His healthcare leadership has been pathetic, but we’ll overcome that. Your party’s healthcare plan is death and bankruptcy when people get significantly ill.

Your party’s slogan is “whore for the insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies and let them die.”

karl

September 30th, 2009
6:54 pm

Enter your comments here

Its not only OBeeee the real porblem is the congress. Its corrupt and they are not looking at the best interest of the american people. Now they are talking amnesty again after 80% of the american people are against it.

Public Option's Doing Swell

September 30th, 2009
6:57 pm

LOL–

What do you call the Blue Dogs and Republicans on Senate Finance Committee who have had their hands out for hundreds of thousands this summer, milliions their careers, and abandon the CBO when the CBO says that exchanges are worthless, and that public option saves $110 billion dollars.

I call it bribery, and call the recipients of briber hookers and it’s a lot more intelligent debate that you can muster.

I don’t see any comments on those two CBO reports by Republicans here. There were a lot of them a few weeks ago. What happened? CBO got your tongue didn’t it?

AmVet

September 30th, 2009
6:57 pm

I always chuckle when the conned think I’m angry.

I’m positively elated.

Watching them implode for years on end now.

Watching them go a mind boggling zero for 36 in the November 2006 elections.

Watching them go 5 for 31 in November 2008.

Watching them not even able to nbominate one of their knuckle-dragging darlings lst time around.

And then watching an aged RINO make a futher mockery of that party by choosing a female George of the Bungle.

After suffering through the doltish and unholy trinity of Ronnie/Newtie/Georgie, I’m having the political time of my life!

How about you conneds?

Not so much?

Good, losers.

Karma’s a real b!tch, isn’t it?

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

September 30th, 2009
7:02 pm

Let’s vote- Is AmWet a Paranoid Delusional or a run of the mill psychotic?

Discuss amongst yourselves.

Public Option's Doing Swell

September 30th, 2009
7:02 pm

Palin plaguerized the name of the book she didn’t write from John Dickinson’s article on her stupidity at Slate entitled “Going Rogue”.

http://www.slate.com/id/2230930/

Grayson will apologize to Boehner when hell freezes over. He won’t be censured either.

AmVet

September 30th, 2009
7:05 pm

How many selves do you have Sybil Welcher?

BTW, how did that McCain/Palin vote work out for ya?

Nobody/Nothing? Was it good for you too?

DoggoneGA

September 30th, 2009
7:05 pm

“everything I said is truth”

See, you really CAN’T help it…the lies just flow out naturally. If they ever stop, you’ll need to get your microchip replaced before your head explodes from telling the truth.

Taxpayer

September 30th, 2009
7:06 pm

AmVet,

Some of them are rather amusing. These sore losers do have some issues to work through though.

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

September 30th, 2009
7:07 pm

If the democrats think the Porkulus is working great, what do you think we can expect from their health care bill?

Public Option's Doing Swell

September 30th, 2009
7:14 pm

We can expect #110 billion savings in the economy per CBO. We can expect that the insurance companies will quit wasting time and money of physicians who have legitimate billing practices.

Most importantly, we can expect people to get more access to better care eariler. The only way to go is up. And we’ll get there by ignoring the Senate Fiance Bill as committee members Nelson, Schumner, and Rockerfeller plan to do as soon as the markup is through this week. On to the Floor and Conference–and on to the House supporting Public Option.

Yeah, well, sure

September 30th, 2009
7:15 pm

DoggoneGA, please get over yourself. It’s a difference of opinion. For you to insinuate that all Republicans do is lie is more BS from you.

Public Option's Doing Swell

September 30th, 2009
7:15 pm

That’d be Bill Nelson not the cluker Ben Nelson. Bill Nelson is former insurance comissioner from Florida now in the Senate.

DoggoneGA

September 30th, 2009
7:17 pm

“For you to insinuate that all Republicans do is lie is more BS from you.”

Oh really! Do you have the same problem when someone on the conned side says the same thing about Democrats? We can’t heeeear you.

Joel Edge

September 30th, 2009
7:18 pm

“I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.” (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).
Jay, there are a lot of former and present servicemen who have sworn this oath (myself included). Orders will be followed, as long as they don’t conflict with constitution and law. At that point it becomes an unlawful order.

Yeah, well, sure

September 30th, 2009
7:22 pm

AmVet and PODS have lost it. These guys are smart fellas but, their fecal slinging (per PODS) is same $hit different day. Jay, you attempt to change topics, but the comments end up being the same. That’s really all that remains with this blog – a constant stream of diarhea of the mouth – from BOTH SIDES. Yeah, I know – I came here on my own and no one is holding a gun to my head, making me read this crap…

Yeah, well, sure

September 30th, 2009
7:24 pm

DoggoneGA, for someone that proclaims to be “above all of that” and “take the high road”, you don’t do a very good job.

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

September 30th, 2009
7:24 pm

Now if Obozo is going to be a proper dictator, he needs to get himself a uniform to wear like all those other cranks he so admires.

Problem is, he hates the military and there would not be enough room for all of the medals he has awarded himself.

I have a solution to this conundrum, however, have his old lady, Idi Amin, wear the uniform. Wouldn’t that be a fearful, imposing figure? He could hide behind her when Iran is around.

Plus, she has more than enough room to pin on all of his medals.

They’d barely cover that a@@.

DoggoneGA

September 30th, 2009
7:28 pm

“DoggoneGA, for someone that proclaims to be “above all of that” and “take the high road”, you don’t do a very good job”

If I ever said anything like that you would be correct. But since I never have, you can have the comment back for repairs.

Jay

September 30th, 2009
7:29 pm

“Yeah Well,” I agree.

Gentlemen, dial back the anger and vitriol or take a powder for the evening.

Yeah, well, sure

September 30th, 2009
7:34 pm

PODS, from your perspective, what makes you think that this Health Care Plan will not be a boondoggle? Others have pointed to many other programs that the government runs and effs up and yet you are here proclaiming that none of that will happen with Health Care. What makes you so sure? Last night you blamed two republicans for strangling the Post Office and causing it’s financial problems. What makes you so sure that something like that won’t happen down the road from either side of the AISLE with Health Care? These government programs never go off without a hitch. They always end up costing more than anticipated. They always have politicians meddling with them, tweeking them for their own benefit and their constituents. They always turn out to be a mess. What makes you so sure that it won’t happen this time?

stands for decibels

September 30th, 2009
7:36 pm

Yeah, I know – I came here on my own and no one is holding a gun to my head, making me read this crap…

Me neither. However, I’ve found that things tend to turn pretty ugly and stupid in the evening, when some of the regulars are, presumably, liquored up.

md

September 30th, 2009
7:37 pm

“Josef…go back and read what I wrote again. AFTER that speech, my TEACHER asked “What can we do to help the PRESIDENT?” Not “our country””

And there is a difference between “a teacher”, and published questions coming out of the WH/Education Dept. The gulf Jo mentions is still there.

md

September 30th, 2009
7:39 pm

“Gentlemen, dial back the anger and vitriol or take a powder for the evening”

I think that may be the problem Jay, some of them are on the powder before they get here.

DoggoneGA

September 30th, 2009
7:42 pm

“And there is a difference between “a teacher”, and published questions coming out of the WH/Education Dept”

Aren’t they both government officials? It’s all a stupid argument anyway. There is literally NOTHING that will come out of the current WH that won’t be picked over like dry bones for SOMETHING that can be twisted to get the conned base in a tizzy.

Normal

September 30th, 2009
7:45 pm

Children, children, children, play nice…
just a gentle reminder…and goodnight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeuoXfKXhOs

md

September 30th, 2009
7:46 pm

“Aren’t they both government officials?”

They certainly are. Just so happens one is at the bottom of the food chain and the other is at the top, but if you see them the same, go for it.

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

September 30th, 2009
7:46 pm

The number of homes lost to foreclosures rose about 17 percent in the second quarter of this year despite the launch of an extensive government program aimed at helping borrowers save their home, according to government data released Wednesday.-WaPo

Despite? You mean “because of,” right?

So, if the democrats think the economy is “recovering,” what standards do you think they will use to judge your health?

He’s fine. Turning blue means that is system is fighting valiantly. Let’s leave him to cough and gasp by himself. We are impeding his recovery. Goodnight, Buford.

Normal

September 30th, 2009
7:47 pm

RollerGirl

September 30th, 2009
7:51 pm

Even Gore Vidal calls obama out today and said he expects the Kenyan to impose martial law. The shine is off obama except to the Bookmans of the press.

DoggoneGA

September 30th, 2009
7:51 pm

“but if you see them the same, go for it”

They don’t have to be the “same” – hey, I was a kid then. How do I know if the teacher was speaking off the top of her head, or from something she was told to memorize? I can come up with LOTS of “conspiracy theories” about the situation. And every one of them would be just as stupid as the one about Obama. EVERY one. JUST as STUPID.

Taxpayer

September 30th, 2009
7:52 pm

Armey, Gingrich, Cheney, et al, are no more relevant in today’s world than talk of hiding under one’s desk in case of a nuclear attack. And, the talking heads from that era who manage to get exposure by virtue of their seniority are even less significant. Their time has passed. Let them now leave the limelight and retire to their studies and write their memoirs in preparation for their last great journey. Their glory days, if one chooses to think of them in such terms, are well behind them and memories of them are best left to age on the dusty shelves of all things presidential. Like elephants in their final days, they need to be preparing to head off to their final resting place and be content with the knowledge that we survived in spite of them.

DoggoneGA

September 30th, 2009
7:55 pm

“he expects the Kenyan to impose martial law.”

and that’s just about as valid as the exact same prediction that was made about Bush. Or should I say just as STUPID?

mike

September 30th, 2009
7:59 pm

LOL. You know from the quality of his writing, you might think that Jay was in a coma for the last eight years. The fact that he is unaware how many of his liberal brethren were making exactly the same absurd statements about Bush proves he was.

Here is a clip to help Jay jog his memory. It is of celebrated liberal pundit Keith Olbermann who is a far more well know and embraced by the liberal communtiy than Thomas Sowell and Michael Leeden are by the conservative community. This video is just one of the many time Olbermann called the sitting President a “facist”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTLPUwS3HkM

Here is a nice new collection of photos of liberal protesters calling for the murder of the “Christian fascist pig” George Bush. Many of the photos are of Bush in Hitler garb.

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621

Jay must be unaware of all of these cases. Otherwise he would be a hypocrite.

Taxpayer

September 30th, 2009
8:00 pm

Me neither. However, I’ve found that things tend to turn pretty ugly and stupid in the evening, when some of the regulars are, presumably, liquored up.

Some pholk’s phalanges do seem to phlail more phreely after dark, don’t they. Is there another phull moon. Jay is pretty obliging but I imagine he has his limits too.

RollerGirl

September 30th, 2009
8:01 pm

From times UK interview with gore vidal.

Last year he(Vidal) famously switched allegiance from Hillary Clinton to Barack Obama during the Democratic nomination process for president. Now, he reveals, he regrets his change of heart. How’s Obama doing? “Dreadfully. I was hopeful. He was the most intelligent person we’ve had in that position for a long time. But he’s inexperienced. He has a total inability to understand military matters

mike

September 30th, 2009
8:01 pm

Jay –

Why did the same rhetoric not offend you in the slightest when Bush was in office?

You know, just askin’.

Bosch

September 30th, 2009
8:03 pm

Jay,

Why ya’ wanna rile up the already riled?

Whew tough night at work. I’m already liquored up (hat tip Doggone) and n’ere a powder anywheres.

RollerGirl

September 30th, 2009
8:05 pm

….Another notable Obama mis-step has been on healthcare reform. “He f***ed it up. I don’t know how because the country wanted it. We’ll never see it happen.”

…Vidal now believes, as he did originally, Clinton would be the better president. “Hillary knows more about the world and what to do with the generals. History has proven when the girls get involved, they’re good at it. Elizabeth I knew Raleigh would be a good man to give a ship to.”The Republicans will win the next election, Vidal believes; though for him there is little difference between the parties.

Bosch

September 30th, 2009
8:05 pm

Isn’t Keith Olberman a football pundit?

mike

September 30th, 2009
8:05 pm

Bosch –

Ever going to tell me who I am bigoted against or produce a quote that backs up last night’s claim that I am a bigot?

mike

September 30th, 2009
8:07 pm

“Isn’t Keith Olberman a football pundit?”

No. He is the flagship liberal on a partisan liberal stations. He is to MSNBC what Glenn Beck is to Fox. He gets over a million viewers a night.

At least you have hear of him. I have never heard of this Michael Leeds fellow who Jay is quoting.

mike

September 30th, 2009
8:09 pm

Just wanted to make sure none of the folks wringing their hands over non-existent threats to Obama misses these actual calls for Bush “Christian Fascist Pig” Bush.

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621

Somebody want to explain why the non-existent threats against Obama are worse than the actual threats against Bush?

RollerGirl

September 30th, 2009
8:10 pm

To accurately describe keith Olberman, you must understand that it he touched viagra, he would get taller, because he is the worlds biggest talking D*%

AmVet

September 30th, 2009
8:11 pm

For the right-wingers who still dream of a new Joe McCarthy, renewed segregation and the church dominating the social landscape through fear and intimidation…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoE5kGMUpcg

mike

September 30th, 2009
8:12 pm

“On Air America, talk show host Randi Rhodes recommended doing to Bush what Michael Corleone, in “The Godfather, Part II,” does to his brother. “Like Fredo,” she said, “somebody ought to take him out fishing and phuw!” — then imitated the sound of a gunshot. In the Guardian, a leading British daily, columnist Charlie Brooker issued a plea: “John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr. — where are you now that we need you?”

For the more literary Bush-hater, there is “Checkpoint,” a novel by Nicholson Baker in which two characters discuss the wisdom of shooting the president. “I’m going to kill that bastard,” one character fumes. Some Bush-hatred masquerades as art: At Chicago’s Columbia College, a curated exhibit included a sheet of mock postage stamps bearing the words “Patriot Act” and depicting President Bush with a gun to his head. There are even Bush-assassination fashion statements, such as the “KILL BUSH” T-shirts that were on offer last year at CafePress, an online retailer.”

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2006/09/10/a_new_low_in_bush_hatred/

Now, if Jay has written an article like this when Bush was in office, then he would not come off as such a hypocrite now.

josef nix

September 30th, 2009
8:12 pm

Doggone and md…those of us in the classroom are being surfeited with many, many things these days which, in and of themselves, only raise an eyebrow, but taken as a pattern, are of concern. No, we are not being “ordered” to do or say anything specific, but the “suggestions” are there and bear the imprimature of the state agencies which we serve and the requests for “feedback” make it clear that we may well be being monitored. This is not paranoia. We are accustomed to just such as a consistent part and parcel of the daily job in this era of what the “educators” are calling “responsibility.”

Let me give just some examples, there are portraits of the current president, provided by the system from Washington down, in virtually every classroom. This was not the case under the former Presidents. The many and varied writing contests in which our students are asked to participate uniformly have the current President as a, and often, the topic. This was not the case under the previous Presidents. More significant is the wording. They do not say, “If I were THE president…” They say, “If I were President Obama…”

I am no fan of Pat Buchanan by a long, long shot. However following the tempest in a teapot over the you-tube video of the little ones singing his praises, when he said it reminded him of the Young Pioneers he heard singing the praises of the Soviet leadership he witnessed on his trips to the Soviet Union.

Do I think this is a planned, thought out and orchestrated “plan” to indoctrinate? No, I do not. That scares me even more. At least in that time and place those promoting the cult of personality were doing so consciously of what they were doing.

Bosch

September 30th, 2009
8:14 pm

mike,

Nah, I’m just full of crap.

And back to Keith Olberman – the only time I’ve seen him is on the Sunday NFL shows.

mike

September 30th, 2009
8:14 pm

Roller Girl –

“To accurately describe keith Olberman, you must understand that it he touched viagra, he would get taller, because he is the worlds biggest talking D*%”

True that, but I guess he is too liberal for Jay to call out for calling the President a fascist.

Taxpayer

September 30th, 2009
8:14 pm

In 2009, roughly 47% of households, or 71 million, will not owe any federal income tax, according to estimates by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center.

Some in that group will even get additional money from the government because they qualify for refundable tax breaks.

The ranks of those whose major federal tax burdens net out at zero — or less — is on the rise. The center’s original 2009 estimate was 38%. That was before enactment in February of the $787 billion economic recovery package, which included a host of new or expanded tax breaks.

The issue doesn’t get a lot of attention even as lawmakers debate how to pay for policy initiatives like health reform, whether to extend the Bush tax cuts and how to reduce the deficit.

The vast majority of households making up to $30,000 fall into the category, as do nearly half of all households making between $30,000 and $40,000.

As you move up the income scale the percentages drop.

Nearly 22% of those making between $50,000 and $75,000 end up with no federal income tax liability or negative liability as do 9% of households with incomes between $75,000 and $100,000.

Of course, income taxes don’t tell the whole story. Workers are also subject to payroll taxes, which support Social Security and Medicare.

When considering federal income taxes in combination with payroll taxes, the percent of households with a net liability of zero or less is estimated to be 24% this year, according to the Tax Policy Center’s estimates.

Yep. The first thing those socialist facist nazis do when they take office is push through their tax cuts. With all these cuts and the spending on wars and corporate welfare, you’d think we’d be broke or something. Can you imagine if the fed had to pay back the money that it borrowed per the terms given to the average US credit card holder. Twenty percent or higher APR and penalties. Wow. The banks would love that deal.

mike

September 30th, 2009
8:16 pm

Bosch –

Fair enough on the bigot comment.

Take a look at the clip above if you want to see what Olbermann’s day job is. The Sunday night appearance is just NBC trying to force him down our throat.

You know, the same NBC that is doing a Law and Order about prosecuting Bush admin officials.

mike

September 30th, 2009
8:18 pm

(The link is being held up in moderation. It came from the Boston Globe and you can find it by Googling the first sentence.)

Now, if Jay has written an article like this when Bush was in office, then he would not come off as such a hypocrite now.

Public Option's Doing Swell

September 30th, 2009
8:19 pm

The short answer is that while health care reofrm won’t be perfect, insurance costs are runaway. They aren’t going down. Insurance companies ahve raised costs of premiums in the last month in 5 states from 22 to 30%. They need competition–and that’s a major factor in saving costs. Insurance companies drop people when they’re sick–I’ve posted the states hundreds of times 430 Georgians a day 14000 Americans. Illness is the #2 cause of bankruptcy in the US. That’s insane. You asked; I answered.

DoggoneGA

September 30th, 2009
8:19 pm

Josef…how far back does your “not the case under the previous Presidents” go? Because nothing you have outlined seems any different to the things *I* was “taught” when I was a child in grade school. It all seem pretty ordinary to me. And contrary to expectations, I did NOT grow up to “worship” Kennedy – who was assassinated when I was in 7th grade.

TnGelding

September 30th, 2009
8:20 pm

Your duty is to denounce them and stop reading their vitriol and buying their books.

Certainly I’m not 100% pleased with the rookie’s performance so far, but he still has the potential to be one of our best ever. He’s shown he isn’t afraid to tackle the complicated issues head-on, and we have many that have been simmering for decades.

The drastic steps he has taken were needed and only temporary.

I think we can all agree that our last two presidents have been among the least qualified in our history. Maybe we need to change the election process?

“Strategy? What Strategy?”

“Biden, Clinton, Gates, McChrystal, Panetta, Holbrooke—all of the players in war strategy—met with Obama to talk Afghanistan and Pakistan for three hours in the Situation Room. But, Stephen Holmes argues, Gen. Stanley McChrystal doesn’t have a strategy for Afghanistan.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-09-29/strategy-what-strategy?cmpid=p_yahoo

Change, change we are already sick of

September 30th, 2009
8:20 pm

First off the country has to get to the polls in 2010 and take his Senate and House advantage away. Then in 2012 we need to vote for another change. W was not perfect but he sure would not be in Denmark trying to get the Olympics for Dallas if he was President. Obama is corrupt and the Olympics would benefit some of his Chicago buddies including close advisor Valerie Jarrett. I would like to get some of those people who were crying at the inauguration and see how much their lives have changed if any. This guy has his nose in everything from the Olympics to the college football bowl system. He has backed out on a lot of his promises and is just another corrupt politician.

Bosch

September 30th, 2009
8:21 pm

mike,

Psssst. Over here – sometimes, I like to be an ass hole – just saying.

I don’t watch that crap – none of it – I stopped watching CNN about a month ago ’cause all they do is have people on that yell at each other.

I haven’t watched Law and Order in years, until last week and I SAW that. Damn. I liked how they got a verdict, but didn’t read it, and that actor was all smug like “you can’t touch me.” But ya’ know – they’re right. I also liked the way one of the prosecutors was having a ethical conflict while prosecuting. I thought it was well done.