Ga.’s sex-offender laws an injustice themselves

I LOVED THE CHANCE TO CAMP OUT EVERYDAY, BUT I HAVE TO WORK TO PAY MY TAXES!!! WE HAVE TO STAY TOUGH ON THESE CRIMINALS TO KEEP THEM FROM CRIMES!!!

GEORGIA NEEDS MORE PRISONS AND 3-STRIKES (AND I’M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BRAVES (HA HA HA!!!)

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This law is worse than ridiulous, it’s sickening. It is just another example of how politicians can pretend to be doing something to solve a problem. It then gives someone a mandate to be a do-gooder without requiring the common sense to take logical action. Go government!

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sex offenders living in tents, Roman Polanski fighting extradition
and the SOB who introduced me to adult sexuality at age 4 walks about free and unencumbered.

yep, we have problems with sex offender laws.

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I was wondering if you were gonna jump into this story. I’m almost certain that by the time I post this, Andy will have accused you of supporting child rape, but the part of this story I find really crazy is the fact that their probation officers directed them to this camp. That tells me that there is absolutely no place for these people to go. So, I guess their only alternative is to wonder the streets and most likely repeat their offenses.

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It appears these laws are extra-Constitutional.
It is the scarlet-letter concept, if the individual has served their sentence, they are further punished by not allowing them to start their new life as a convicted felon.

Politicians do what they think will help them get re-elected, not what is in the best interest of societal norms.

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Jackie

Actually child molesters are not ever cured. they are punished, but every piece I have seen done on child molesters say that they cannot be reformed.

So you may want to consider that children who live around these people are always a potential victim. And from that perspective, can you see why parents would not want them living next door?

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Let the libs open up their backyards and basements for these offenders to live in. Have their wives make iced tea and cook for them, too. Let them upstairs (after the kids have gone to school, of course) to take a shower and brush their teeth. Teach them how to sing “Kum-ba-ya” with the family. Let them borrow the family car (with the “Kerry For President”, “O”, “Co-Exist”, and “End This War” bumper stickers) so that they can look for jobs. Feel good about yourselves that you are helping your fellow man. Forgive them when they rape your daughter.

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Brad Steel

I would just as soon they stay in jail. And I don’t have a porn collection. Do you?

So I’m a tool for who?

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Now, if they can just figure out how to punish people that have abortions, the USofA will be almost Perfect. It’ll just need a zip code so people will know where to flock.

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Normal

Actually I am having a great day. Another day of watching the dims failing miserably. What could be better?

How about you?

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Gitmo

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Let the Republicans pay taxes to keep offenders off the street. They seem to like to mandate as long as it does not impose any restrictions on them, including paying for their mandates.

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Barretta said it best “don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time”
just sayin’
Damn Skippy!

Why don’t we just ship them to Mexico? They ship thier crimminals here…

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NIF, I’m having a great day too…watching all the whiners whine and never offering alternate solutions…now that’s entertainment!

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Out of all the people in the world that need voices speaking out for them, the enslaved women and children of Islam and the oppressed dehumanized people of North Korea quickly come to mind, why do liberals always pound their chests on behalf of perverts (your beloved justice system saw fit to punish them, same as they saw fit to legalize the murder of unborn children, so there must be something to it, no?) and the like?

Just sayin…..

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Can’t they go camp out in the Okeefeefanokee swamp? Sounds like a better place to camp to me!

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I look at it this way. If Georgia has tough laws I agree with them. I was physically and sexually abused as a child by my own stepfather and know how it feels. But I also see kids that shouldn’t be dressed as they do,or allowed to be out on the streets after dark either. Where’s the prosecution of the parents?

BUT, what if offenders live and work in the state of Georgia, and have some type of registration in Georgia then? Georgia ought to be providing a place for them to work and stay to be a functional member of society until such a time that they can re-enter society and live on their own. How about a Farm with a woodshop, metal shop or something like that?

Thats not to say Georgia should support them, but if they weren’t retrained and placed somewhere outside of prison, just where do they expect them to live with the meager cash they get when they get out? Either that, or transport them in agreement with another state. The one guy highlighted in the article was only 15 yrs old when he committed the crime and the girl was 12….why did they not prosecute HIS parents?

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Whiner,

please feel free to give to charities that support the oppressed people of Islam and North Korea. There are no laws restricting you from doing that.

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Not all are truly sex offenders, some were entrapped not saying they would not have committed the crime, but how can you put someone in jail put them on a list for life and they never committed the actual crime. The old saying idle mind is the devils play ground, yes I know of someone who did a stupid thing, he was working being a good father to his children, because work was slow one day told to go home. Went home got on the internet and went into a chat room and there pops this girl talking this person never really stated age if so I really didn’t pay attention in the chat room when signing up it states you must be 18 so this person lied, so we decide to meet soon as this person goes tothe desinated meeting place police arrested him. Now tell me where is the crime truly. Now this person can’t get a job, went to church was ran out of the church life just destroyed now he is unable to take care of his children and he has to register for life. This is ridiculous them good old boy legislators need to get a grip. But we all need to stand together find out who they are and let them know votes do count. And don’t get me wrong someone who has actually committed the act of ray or having sex with a child I totally agree with the law. But what about the young prostitues out on the street who say they are 18 or older only 13 & 14 and actually someone these young girls want this, some of these young girls who are out there having sex want to do it. It hasn’t been that long ago where young girs were encouraged toget married at 13 & 14 to keep from being old maids and that was in the United States of America.

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Lynders

I understand what you saying about the parents, but you just can’t lock your kids up because liberals don’t want to lock up the bad guys.

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@NIF

In that sex offenders are never cured, I agree. However, do you think rapists, bank robbers and other repeat offenders are cured?

Given this question, what should we do with those that continue to repeat crimes?

If one would look at things objectively, if a person is killed and the perpetrator is charged with manslaughter or murder, is the victim still dead?

I believe we should structure punishment that is reflective of the crimes committed.

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Lynders,

The problem is that all sex offenders are not child molesters and should not be all grouped together.

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The problem is that the sex offenders must continue to move in order to meet the Republican mandates and, in the case of the camp on public property, people with children that have lost their jobs in this Republican-created recession have probably started moving there. So, the offenders must go, again. Even the ones that pose no threat to anyone.

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Finnius, how would you know what Jesus would say? Stop parroting the stupid comments, you hear each Sunday, that are babbled by your even more stupid minister.

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Jackie

**However, do you think rapists, bank robbers and other repeat offenders are cured?**

it’s very simple. Robbing a bank does not screw up a child for the rest of their life. Can you see the difference?

And Bank robbing is not a mental illness. So yes, they can be taught that robbing banks is bad.

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I say these punk sex offenders gave up all their rights when they violated a young girls or boys rights. I have no mercy for sex offenders and neither do people in prison. The state needs to continue to be tough on these animals.

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Bosch –

“i read Jay’s article, but Bosch, I don’t discuss anything with a liar, like you.” and “Go take your little boy tantrums to someone who cares, liar.”

… sounds like someone has a cruuuuuush on yooouuuuu …

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please feel free to give to charities that support the oppressed people of Islam and North Korea. There are no laws restricting you from doing that.

I’m sure that will do alot of good, Taxxie, who do you suppose distributes this charity to the concentration camp inmates?

I got an idea, why don’t you fascist pinko liberals spend as much time denouncing the butchers of Islam than you do Christians in the United States?

Skeered, are you?

Big brave lib, fighting churchgoers.

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Well, I just hope that this conversation does not degrade into a discussion about whether a former Republican is ever truly cured. I just don’t want to go there. I’m cured for as long as the Republicans are what they are today. And, that’s a fact. And, no amount of temptation will sway me. They can say no and they say no more taxes and they can say drill here and they can say freedom fries and on and on and it’s not working.

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Bookman is 100 percent correct on this one, and every one of the pandering politicians who put these laws in place knows it. But none of those politicians has the guts to fix this problem, so it’s likely we’re stuck with it until the courts strike down these absurd distance restrictions. Then just watch those same spineless politicians run for re-election while complaining about “activist judges.”

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What a Joke of an Article to read this morning. Jay Bookman your a Joke. I love the AJC, even if I can’t stand Cynthia Tucker and her nonsense.I am a life long Atlantan.I have ZERO sympathy for Child Molesters, and am waiting for our Society to have a better policy towards them. Our Laws are fine and child molesters should suffer.Their Vicitms never get over it. They are very sick and can NEVER be reformed. Look at the Stats. We need to eliminate all child molesters or rapist by jail or Death. Period. Our Society will be better off and our children will be safer.How is that bad? Liberal or Conservative taxpayers want to protect our children. Vicims never truly recover while offenders are let back out to commit the same crime. The Internet also gives these monsters another outlet to prey on our children. We all need to have an adult discussion on better ways to protect our familes.

Our Goverment does not protect us anymore. It is time the people to stand up. The Supreme Court rulled recently that Child Molesters can not be put to death, unless murder was involved.What a Joke. Shame on Them. The Death Penalty should be for those Monsters. They Have no rights. You lose your rights when you hurt children. Lets Rid our country of these monsters. A Country that doesn’t have Child Molesters or rapist. That is Real Change you can Believe in. Wake Up America and Atlanta.

OR Maybe we can just ship them all to Iran or Cuba for a New Start.

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As a victim of child molestation, I don’t have sympathy for the offenders but fair is fair. Why continue to punish them after they’ve served their sentence? If you want to track their whereabouts for life, then sentence them to a life sentence. Also, their should be some common sense exercised in adding offenders to the registry. Some people clearly do not deserve to be on that list.

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I noticed a lot of the commenters here are doing the same thing the moronic legislature did: lump all sex “offenders” in together, regardless of the crime, which means a teenager who crossed the statutory rape line by having sex with a girlfriend or boyfriend only a year younger than him or her is treated the same way as a true sicko who abused small children. It’s absolutely senseless from a humane perspective, and it’s idiotic from the point of view of law enforcement. It forces registered offenders into a transient lifestyle, which makes it much, much harder for law enforcement to know where the most potentially dangerous offenders actually are. If a person cannot find a legal, decent place to live that person is going to be tempted to go underground — buy a fake ID, change his or her identity, and drop off the radar. Illegal aliens buy false identifications all the time — what’s to stop a pedophile from doing the same when he gets tired of huddling in a tent or living under a bridge?

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HERE IS THE ANSWER! GET CONVICTED OF A SEX CRIME, THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN BE FORGIVEN IS TO GO TO AFGHANISTAN AS A WARRIOR! GET A BODY COUNT OF OVER 100 AND YOU CAN SAFELY COME BACK TO SOCIETY!

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Mrs. Godzilla

What you and others seem to want to center this discussion on is apparently very rare. The vast majority of sex offenders are exactly that: sex offenders.

Change the sentencing laws but don’t let the pervs out.

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ANybody?

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My my, so many hard-working, tax-paying, upstanding middle and upper class citizens on the blog.

And how angry they all are!

Finding it hard to make ends meet, scrimping and saving and making all your payments on time but still can’t get ahead? And I suppose it doesn’t help after your beloved Republicans allowed business men to screw the pooch and empty out your 401k’s?

Hmm, maybe we should legalize prostitution or drugs so you unhappy people can find an outlet for your hate and bile?

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C’mon guys? ANybody?

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Normal

So what’s you solution, Normal? Let all the pervs out? Do you have kids? Do you care about kids? Can you possibly understand that the vast majority of sex offenders did not get charged because of a prom night date?

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NiF – Can’t tell the difference between someone who is disgusted by the lack of a backbone of another individual and someone who has a crush on someone. I see.

… me thinks thou doest protest too much … at any rate, it’s not nearly as bad as the fact that you can’t distinguish the difference between a true pedophile and someone who was put on the sex offenders list because of something that happened when they were a teenager …

“You don’t actually vote, do you?”

every election I can (helloooooo Nov 2010!) … and the fact that it pi$$es off people like you is an added bonus

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Please cease the personal attacks on each other.

Ok, but I need a ruling. Is it a “personal attack” to point out that NRB, who writes @ 9.16:

Only the AJC could stoop low enough to defend child molestors.

…is the same man who has now twice defended the child murderer Timothy McVeigh. The same man who says that Timothy was “heroic” and “made the country better”?

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I Report writes why don’t you fascist pinko liberals spend as much time denouncing the butchers of Islam than you do Christians in the United States?

I don’t give a dern what other people do in other countries. I don’t live there and it’s none of my business what they do in THEIR OWN LAND. I live in America and I can only affect what happens here. So you can guess, I don’t subscribe to the US as world police idea, either.

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peadawg –

9:30 –

RAAAAAAMEN

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Mrs. G –

to answer your 9:27 question … I’m so white-bread … I was in my majority and so was he …

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USinUk

I’m sure your entire life is based on pi*sing someone off. That usually means that you think very little of yourself. Sorry about that, but not my problem.

I know that there are rare instances that teenagers get charged for something that should be considered nothing. But DO YOU UNDERSTAND that this is not the norm? DO YOU UNDERSTAND that the reason why news stories are made about those people is that they are so incredibly rare?

DO YOU UNDERSTAND that. as a parent, I would rather you do your best to pi*s others off by doing something other than work to free people that will be raping children?

Smile!!

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Skipped the prom and went to the party.

At least put them in Stone Mountain camping.

Geez.

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Normal

Of course. What you said is perfect, so you do understand the problem others might have with grouping the rare innocent with all the pervs.

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MsGodzilla-Prom Night? How about 9th grade-did’nt have a clue of what I was attempting to do,luckily either did she. Can’t say it was enjoyable,but bragging rights with the guy’s was cool at the time.

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MsGodzilla@8:51-Sorry

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Lets talk about our first time?

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Nif –

“Justice denied anywhere is justice denied everywhere” – MLK, Jr.

I’m sorry to hear that you don’t care about the people who are unjustly added to the sexual predators list … I’m sure you’d be just as sanguine if it was your daughter who was added to the list for doing something like Wendy did. (”sorry, dear, but people like you are just a small percentage of those on the list, so I can’t be bothered to care about what it means to your life”)

so yes, I do understand that this is not the norm – the difference between you and me (one of many, thank His Noodley Appendages) is that I actually CARE about people who are denied justice.

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The US is a system of laws and we have systems set up for people who break those laws.

Once law breakers do their time, you can’t just ostracize them. You have to allow them the opportunity to improve themselves.

What kind of people just throw up their hands and say “banished”? It takes people who don’t want to deal with the situation at hand to throw the baby out with the bath water.

Those of you who want us to care about the plight of innocent people in foreign lands don’t realize that your allowing your own system to turn into the type of system which produces situations which put innocent people in plight.

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I was 20, she was 15. By the laws today I would have to register since her mom caught us when she was 16. As a side note, Friday will be our 32nd anniversary.

The law is wrong. Zero tolerance is wrong. Politicians, judges, school administrators, teachers and parents need to judge each instance as a unique event. One size does not fit all.

Mrs G, to answer your question, yes on my prom night and yes on her prom night. Lucky for me, people still used a little common sense back then.

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@NIF

Where did you get that idea?

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And if you think the plight of these sex offenders are gruesome, just wait until you fail three consequetive cholerestoral tests under Obama-care. Fat Gulag.

I think we have a “Farthest Traveled” award nominee. Any seconds?

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Hmm, sometimes you should make sure the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow really exists before you turn your back on your state, your voters, constituents, and all.

Palin Lectures Not Selling, No One Wants To Book Her: NY Post

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/30/palin-lectures-not-sellin_n_304020.html

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Wait until the Republicans get approval to publish their list of abortion offenders and make it illegal for them to live anywhere. The power of the good book in the wrong hands — Republican hands — is wrong in so many ways. And, we have not even talked about the list of gays and the cross-reference to the list of HIV infected and the places that they are not allowed to go. But, as long as we can keep the sick uninsured, everything will work out in the end.

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Jackie –

9:56

nicely done! (golf clap)

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meanwhile … a little good news …

The worst U.S. recession since the Great Depression eased more than anticipated in the second quarter, setting the stage for a recovery to take hold in the last half of 2009.

The world’s largest economy shrank at a 0.7 percent annual rate from April through June, the best performance in more than a year, revised figures from the Commerce Department showed today in Washington. Gross domestic product contracted at a 6.4 percent pace in the first three months of 2009.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&sid=a3g5lqDmy2N8

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She’s got me dizzy, she sees me through to the end
She’s got me in her hands and there’s no use in pretending
Christine sixteen, Christine sixteen

She drives me crazy, I want to give her all I’ve got
And she’s hot every day and night, there is no doubt about it

Christine sixteen, Christine sixteen

“I don’t usually say things like this to girls your age, but when I saw you
coming out of the school that day, that day I knew, I knew, I’ve got to have
you, I’ve got to have you.”

She’s’ been around, but she’s young and clean
I’ve got to have her, can’t live without her, whoo no
Christine sixteen, Christine sixteen

Christine, Christine, sixteen, sixteen
Christine, yeah, yeah
So clean, Christine, sixteen, sixteen
Christine, yeah, Christine, yeah, yeah
Christine, Christine, sixteen, sixteen
Christine, yeah, Christine, yeah, yeah
Christine, Christine, sixteen, sixteen
Christine, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Christine, Christine, sixteen, sixteen
Christine, yeah, yeah, yeah
Christine, Christine, sixteen, sixteen
Christine, yeah, yeah, yeah
Christine, Christine, sixteen, sixteen, Christine, yeah, yeah
Christine, Christine, sixteen, sixteen
Christine, yeah, yeah, yeah

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I meant Gulag Fat Glutinus Maximo.

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Finn McCool

If you believe anything from the Huffington post, then you are sure to be misinformed and easily misled

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I meant Gulag Fat Glutinus Maximo.

Seriously, if there were to be government funded fat farms proposed, they’d be so popular that the private fat farm owners would have the offending bill sponsors shot.

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Jackie

Wow. So you only want to discuss the issues that you want to discuss. Maybe you could win the argument where you make all the rules.

You brought up bank robberies, not me. That wasn’t what we were talking about. But I was glad to discuss that with you. But apparently, you are getting angry because I do want to keep bringing it back to the children.

Good luck to you. Maybe you can find someone who will just agree with you.

I need to go to work.

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Young Girl, get out of my mind,
my love for you is way out of line.
Better run, girl, you’re much too young, girl.

With all the charms of a woman,
You’ve kept the secret of your youth.
You led me to believe you’re old enough to give me love
and now it hurts to know the truth. Oh, Oh,

Young Girl, get out of my mind,
my love for you is way out of line.
Better run, girl, you’re much too young, girl.

Beneath your perfume and make-up,
You’re just a baby in disquise
And though you know that it’s wrong to be alone with me,
that come on look is in your eyes. Oh, Oh,

Young Girl, get out of my mind,
my love for you is way out of line.
Better run, girl, you’re much too young, girl.

So hurry home to your mama
I’m sure she wonders where you are.
Get out of here before I have the time to change my mind
’cause I’m afraid we’ll go too far

Young Girl, get out of my mind,
my love for you is way out of line.
Better run, girl, you’re much too young, girl.

Young Girl, get out of my mind,
my love for you is way out of line.
Better run, girl, you’re much too young, girl.

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Wow. I had forgotten exactly how bad Kiss lyrics are.

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And Lem, that HuffPo link was from the NY Post.

The conservative Ny Post.

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Another War in the Works
America Is Led and Informed by Liars

This is another great article by Paul Craig Roberts and is well worth reading.

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NiF –

“Changing your story, yet again. LOL!!!”

awwww … diddums … so desperate to be right that you’re lying …

I haven’t changed my story at all. Usually, I’d say “nice try”, but, really, that just smacks of desperation.

“Conservatives would like for everyone to be happy. Liberals want to be unhappy and try constantly to make others unhappy”

wow. that’s so delusional, I don’t even know where to start (of course, the funny thing is that liberals are usually accused of chasing pleasure over responsibility, so I find your accusation rather amusing, actually)

“(The buildings over there actually smell like mold. How can you stand it?)”

well, considering I don’t live or work in a building with damp, it’s not a problem.

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NIF:

Only far lefties seem to think that another solution is needed.

No I am about as far right as you get on most issues and another solution is needed

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Enter your comments here

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do these people have health insurance?

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If these people do have health insurance, they are paying inflated rates because of mammogram mandates.
So much for case by case consideration.

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Bosch

They do if they go back to jail!

So, the end result for jailing someone for not paying their healthcare bill is, well, free healthcare at taxpayer’s expense plus the cost of putting the person in jail to begin with. Wow! We sure are smart. Just try and find someone else that can top THAT! hehehe

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“they are paying inflated rates because of mammogram mandates”

tell you what, jt – you pay for my b00bs and I’ll pay for your balls …

deal?

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PM,

The island idea was tried. It was called Alcatraz. One glaring problem with it was an insufficient number of sharks.

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First, there is a difference between a “sex offender” that has sex with a 8-10 year old and one that has sex with a 15 year old. I have seen plenty of 15 year olds that don’t look it.

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jt –

“You don’t have the money to make me ask my wife for my balls back.”

HA! thanks for that … you made me snort

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see where Newsmax piece on military coup had to be taken down….

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Just a thought, kind of off-topic, but relevant:

If we believe in rehabilitation, should Michael Vick be forgiven as well?

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Less than 30% of those on the Sex Offender registry are child molesters, fools.

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I don’t think anybody anticipated that a guy posting under the handle of “Tax Payer funded option, NEVER” might contribute

I have seen plenty of 15 year olds that don’t look it.

to this discussion.

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“If we believe in rehabilitation, should Michael Vick be forgiven as well?”

Certainly…but I wouldn’t sell him a dog.

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Hef –

10:52 –

well said!

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Ray-There should not be a registry for TRUE child molesters only prison ID numbers.

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the law is stupid. georgia has the worlds dumbest govenor and legislators.

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Well this just sucks..for once and hopefully the last time, I agree with Cynthia Tucker..I feel so dirty..it won’t come off..it won’t come off!

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dB –

10:57

YAY!!!

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stands for decibels

September 30th, 2009
10:57 am

More monitor cleaner, please!

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“Well this just sucks..for once and hopefully the last time, I agree with Cynthia Tucker..I feel so dirty..it won’t come off..it won’t come off!”

well, thank His Noodley Appendages you posted that here … on Jay’s page … and not on Cynthia’s

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You all are a bunch of ho’z… The legislation that wrote the Ga sex offender law KNEW exactly what they were doing. They don’t care about categorization. They KNEW that when a 17 year old has sex with his/her 15 year old classmate it would still be a violation of the law. Their moniker… Get as many in the prison system as possible. Keeps us in business

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Normal

September 30th, 2009
11:01 am

You’re getting there but, the brush strokes are still too broad. What age do you think some of these girls reach puberty? 10,11,12? I don’t have any girls but I tell you what. If I had one that reached puberty at a young age and she let some much older guy talk her into sex, he wouldn’t be around for long. And… she would be wearing a lock on her hoo ha until she was 18!

Don’t take me too seriously.

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the law is stupid. georgia has the worlds dumbest govenor and legislators.

I really wish that were Jay’s lede this morning. But nooo, he’s always gotta show off his fancy book-learnin’.

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Well, if it weren’t for sex offenders, we wouldn’t have no illegitimate children or abortions. So, they are the root of all these evils. Can I get a hallelujah.

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Brad Steel! KISS is one of the greatest Rock Band, don’t you appreciate thier tunes? PLEASE!

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KISS called that stuff Rock. I called it Screeching Clowns.

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The Islamic lunatics rape thirteen year old boys during their off duty time of pushing brick walls over onto homosexuals, so yeah, let’s attack the evil State of Georgia that makes perverts sleep under a bridge.

The target that won’t chop your head off.

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The publicized exploitations of children of some prominent Republican Georgia Legislators might lead to change even quicker than anything else.

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whiner -

you tell ‘em!! because if there are bad things going on in islamic countries, we don’t HAVE to fix anything that’s broken here!!!

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Bizarre. The South is heading backwards. Fat, ugly bodies with equally fat, ugly heads. Yup.

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Tax and USinUK are right.

As soon as some “innocent” rich kid or politician’s kid gets ostracized to the woods this solution will be “inhumane” and “non-christian like.”

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I Report is like the snooping nancy in everyone’s neighborhood: Worried about what is going on in everyone else’s yard/house/country while thinking their own home is perfect.

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whiner –

“Imagine what this illiterate would say if the economy actually was turning around, instead of miring deeper into the great depression, the libs would be having televised orgies of themselves.”

recovery??? you’re soaking in it!! since you evidently missed the news earlier:

The worst U.S. recession since the Great Depression eased more than anticipated in the second quarter, setting the stage for a recovery to take hold in the last half of 2009.

The world’s largest economy shrank at a 0.7 percent annual rate from April through June, the best performance in more than a year, revised figures from the Commerce Department showed today in Washington. Gross domestic product contracted at a 6.4 percent pace in the first three months of 2009.

Government stimulus plans such as “cash for clunkers” and first-time homebuyer credits are giving manufacturing and housing, the two areas at the center of the economic slump, a boost this quarter. Federal Reserve policy makers are among those concerned that gains in consumer spending will not be sustained as unemployment climbs and incomes stagnate.

“The economy was certainly bottoming out in the second quarter,” said Michelle Meyer, an economist at Barclays Capital Inc. in New York. “Businesses are in better shape to start production. Massive government spending has been supportive of growth and will continue to help.”

-snip-

Purchases are recovering this quarter. Sales at retailers surged in August by the most in three years, boosted by demand for automobiles as Americans rushed to take advantage of the “cash for clunkers” plan, figures from the Commerce Department showed earlier this month.

A smaller decline in business investment on equipment and software than previously estimated also contributed to the improved reading on GDP, the report said. Such spending fell at a 4.9 percent annual pace, compared with the 8.4 percent decline announced last month.

Inventories Plunge

Today’s report showed the record drop in stockpiles in the second quarter was even larger than previously estimated, paving the way for gains in manufacturing in the second half of the year. Automakers General Motors Co. and Ford Motor Co. are among firms boosting production in coming months.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&sid=a3g5lqDmy2N8

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I too was not much of a KISS fan until I actually listened to their albums. Try it and ya just might change ya mind.

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Hef,

Wings? OMG, Lynyrd Skynyrd makes my skin crawl and so do the Eagles. But Pink Floyd? Now, your talking.

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Finn,

That is very disturbing.

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It’s a banner day!!!! I got all five answers on the Find 5 Challenge!!! I rule!!

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“I bet if we went back to public stoning we would have a lot less crime.”

Didn’t seem to work very well in Biblical days, did it?

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USinUK, if your economic news isn’t from the Heritage Foundation, you might as well throw it away!

Republicans know where the truth can be found!

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Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay –

You know you did it, but now it’s officially banned – I wonder if the offenders will be required to register as sex offenders:

Boston-area college bans sex with roommate around

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/boston-area-college-bans-149990.html?cxntlid=thbz_hm&imw=Y

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Funny how the state worries about sex offenders, but murederers can live anywhere. Go figure.

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Oh, and USinUK,

I didn’t know who Wings was – but now I do – Sir Paul’s post-Beatles gig.

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Georgia lawmakers have no common sense. If you are tired of your tax dollars paying for teenage girlfriend/boyfriend offenders being punished for the rest of their lives just like the real predators, sit back and do nothing. If you are sick of these laws, which are STUPID and eating up your tax dollars paying the judicial system and prisons, take a stand and push these lawmakers to make some changes. You may not think this effects your family, but mark my word, chances are someone you know down the line will be caught up in some of Georgia’s crazy archaic laws.

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U StinK- Perhaps you should read your own cut and paste-

Federal Reserve policy makers are among those concerned that gains in consumer spending will not be sustained as unemployment climbs and incomes stagnate.

What your article says, distilled down to the nutshell and sans the left wing media propaganda speak, is that as long as the government still has money to spend, everything might be ok.

You should Google “China, diversification” for a long term forecast on that^^ nonsense.

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Bosch

It seems you have more than one stalker.

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USinUK,

Clear her throat? Double snort.

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USinUK

September 30th, 2009
11:44 am
Bosch –

“Boston-area college bans sex with roommate around”

I took college online and my wife still had that rule!!

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whiner –

“What your article says, distilled down to the nutshell and sans the left wing media propaganda speak, is that as long as the government still has money to spend, everything might be ok.”

awwwww … grasping at straws is just so CUTE when you do it, whiner!

we’re in a U-shaped recovery, but a recovery we are definitely in — too bad that you’re so partisan you’re cheering for the country to fail rather than for the Fed’s and Obama’s policies to succeed.

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WBH – keepin’ it classy, as usual

(I could have sworn that you said you were leaving and never coming back … and yet, here you are)

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Paul,

“People like that, well, I’d wager they don’t even like Battlestar Galactica”

I know man, some people just don’t get it like we do, huh?

William,

Wow, that sucks for you man – sorry.

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(I could have sworn that you said you were leaving and never coming back … and yet, here you are)

Reminds me of another drama queen. I think it’s all about the indignant departure–then they miss the fainting couch.

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Kam –

“I think it’s all about the indignant departure–then they miss the fainting couch.”

Wyld Bill (leaving in a) Huff

(now we know … he’s actually a 14-year old girl)

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Oh no! I might need to beef up my security detail.

@@ be packin’ empty juice boxes and Chips Ahoy wrappers.

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The KISS army back in the day, turned into the lib-tards of today.

I knew it then and I know it now, Real rock stars and real men have no business wearing make-up.

(although I did see them in 79). Buncha pansies.

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“we’re in a U-shaped recovery, but a recovery we are definitely in — too bad that you’re so partisan you’re cheering for the country to fail rather than for the Fed’s and Obama’s policies to succeed.”

I wouldn’t count the chickens too early. I’ve read many an economist that are predicting a W-shaped recovery, meaning a double bottom, and with the current un-expected drop in consumer confidence, the upcoming holiday season should give us a good indicator. I’m not seeing it around me, as more and more small businesses continue to close as they have hung on as long as they could and no help in sight. Unemployment still rising, many have given up all together, and foreclosures backlogged in the system. The housing maket must clear inventory, and with the foreclosures looming, look for standing inventory to increase.

With that in mind, I tend to think the W is more likely than the U.

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Jay –

okay, there is REALLY nothing wrong with my 12:09 or 12:10 … please release me … let me goooooo …

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Hey Finn…here are some more favorites…

The Brazen Bull
The Pear of Anquish
The Iron Maiden
The Judas Cradle
The Crocodile Tube
The Brank

Which are your favorites?
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The KISS army back in the day, turned into the lib-tards of today.

(although I did see them in 79). Buncha pansies.

See, that’s where I take what might be respectful issue on a fairly serious issue.

My beef with KISS is that it seemed a hopelessly reactionary outfit. They hopped aboard something that was already so over it wasn’t funny–crunch-guitar glam rock, out of T.Rex and Bowie’s Ziggy phase–and stripped it of any kind of liberating social context it might’ve had. While they might’ve had a few punk fans back in the day, if I remember right, mostly they were beloved by the dopier hard-rock/metal guys, the sort of louts who had just figured out in ‘79 that “DISCO SUCKS!”

That said, I don’t think I’ve ever heard more than a few actual tracks of theirs in their entirety, so maybe as Turd claimed there was something there in the albums. (and the solo spinoff tune “New York Groove” is actually a pretty good song). But I stand by my assertion that KISS sucked because they were fundamentally conservative.

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Bosch@11:52-I don’t like to brag well yes I do when I can,No she’s EXTREMELY BEAUTIFULL!!!(yes I know to many LL’s,they stand for her gorgeous legs). I’m lucky to have her,and funny enough she thinks it’s the other way around,yes lucky indeed.

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Castrate all child molesters, rapists and register them after thier prison time. Any statutory cases should be dealt with through courts and common sense. Simple as that.

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Our current sex offender registry laws are doing nothing to protect our children. In fact, in a lot of cases, it is our children ending up on the registries, some for life. There are too many non-violent crimes that are landing people on the registries, with restrictions that are not only unreasonable but unconstitutional. How is someone supposed to have any type of a future with this label? What about the teenagers on the list for consensual sex? I dont think a 19 year old who has consensual sex with his 16 year old girlfriend should be considered a sex offender. What about the dumb teens posting nude pictures of themselves on MySpace? Do you think these teenagers and young adults should be categorized as child molesters? Well, they are. Our laws need reform and they need it now – before we are all sex offenders.
http://www.love-is-not-a-crime.com

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morris is an idiot

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“it’s not going to be a pretty recovery (especially as the banks are still keeping the purse strings very tight) … however, even the investment call I was just on this afternoon says a U-shaped recovery – just not a steep one …”

I’m not too sure the investors are looking at the entire painting. Even as job loss slows and consumer confidence picks up, people’s spending philosophy has changed. Those that have it are thinking twice before using it, and those that don’t have it can not get the credit they once did. All that points to decreased spending in a consumer driven economy. And as you said, they banks are hoarding what they have in fear of going under. I also see commercial real estate about to blow up as they too have held on about as long as they could, but with each closing business, they can no longer make their payments. “For lease” signs don’t exactly pay the rent.

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Speaking of typical Repubozos, what your Repubozo insurance hookers are teeing up in Senate Finance that will be trashed on the floor is to raise insurance prices dramatically, make them compulsory, and the penalty is one year in federal prison with 25 grand fine.

Welcome to Repubozo Insurance World. Of the insurance companies, by the insurance companies for which the insurance companies stand.

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On the manufacturing front, however, the Institute for Supply Management-Chicago said its business barometer fell to 46.1 in September from 50.0 in August, with a reading above 50 indicating expansion. Economists had expected a rise to 52.0.-Reuters

Uh, yeah.

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Date the Save

September 30th, 2009
11:13 am
Late getting back in…sorry. I have three daughters and they all had sex in high school. My wife and I discussed this when the oldest started her transformation and we decided to take matters into our own hands. We insisted that they drink their orange juice every morning 28 days in a row, every month, of every year they were under our roof. It may have been underhanded, but we slept nights.

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Taxpayer

September 30th, 2009
12:10 pm

Huh? Stoned? DAVE’S NOT HERE!!!

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Wow, Bosch. I never realized just what kind of blogger you are until @@ informed us all.

Y’all’re such a misogynist-promoters!

(That must’ve been the “juice box” crack.)

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And don’t tempt teens by buying them cell phones with cameras. Stupid moments are increased when parents also have stupid moments.

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@@-I for one am trying to cross the isle to do the people’s work.

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Bosch

you get away with soooo much just ‘cuz you’re cute!

were you the GOP VP nominee last year?

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Bosch gets away with so much for many reasons. First, it is his like of select Battle’s stars. Second, he like eggs. I mean, really, do I even need to go on.

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Taxpayer

“I’ve done many things that had no outwardly obvious ‘payoff’ but I would not undo a single one of them to this day.”

Me, too. Everyday and proud of it.

It isn’t always about payoff, and quite cynical to think otherwise.

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Paul,

Yes, Cheney can be redeemed, just like GWB in my book – he can shut the hell up and crawl back from whinst he came!!!

TWO blogger two day tirades – I soooo rule!!!! That’s better than FIRST!!

(Although @@’s tirade against me has lasted a couple years).

Hef,

Yeah, I like the Moody Blues and Santana – alot. Thinking of them reminds me of a funny SNL skit where they do a spoof on Blue Oyster Cult and Will Ferrell plays the cowbells. I’ll try to find a video.

Taxpayer,

Wow, I guess I didn’t know what kind of blogger I was either!

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@@-With age my High Horse has been reduced to a Shetland Pony. Thanks for the advise though.

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Hef: If you really want to help your kid, let me offer a possible solution. But I warn you to use it will take self control and constantly telling yourself it the right thing to do. When my children, the older ones were almost teens, I started a family method of solving problems by instituting “Truce and Truth”. The program was only for the kids and could not be used by the parents, but it gave the kids a way to break the ice without fear of reprisal if they had a problem they needed to work out. It went like this. One would come in and say, Dad, I need to declare Truce and Truth. At that time, the TV went off, and the child, my wife and I would retire to my office, or go to the kitchen table if the child said the family could hear. The main thing is that since the Truce was called, nothing the child said could be punished. The purpose of this exercise was not to punish but to find solutions to problems that were upsetting them. I will tell you again that no matter what you heard, you had to take it. Many times I wanted to spin up and throttle the kid, but you have to keep your cool because they have to trust you enough to keep coming back with more problems. It was the best way I could think of to keep an open line of communication with my kids. Did it work? Overall yes. But there were times when I wished it hadn’t…but I have good kids and they use the same method with theirs. Try it if you dare, but never, ever, renege because it will distroy any trust they ever had in you.

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(Although @@’s tirade against me has lasted a couple years).

Totally not true, Bosch.

I can recall having quite a few pleasant exchanges with you up to and until your subversive behavior became apparent.

You wanna deliver your hits but won’t stand still when people hit back.

I remember a little tirade of yours whereby when pushed, you came back playing your victim card saying I was THE MOST DANGEROUS blogger here because I misled people into thinking I was a nice person.

Give me a break!!! You a victim!!?!!

Find the sympathy you demand from your ^^^ pool of hyenas (I’m not talkin’ about Hef).

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Normal-Thanks,I’ll keep that in mind. Have you or anyone you know ever attempted the locked in basement till they’re 21 approach? Neighbors did it with their 2 kids with amazing results,so quite and reserved. Seriously I’ll keep what you say in mind.

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Normal,

Truce and truth – glad it worked for you, but I could see that one abused easily for a more caniving child. Actions have consequences, and what is the child learning if they can nullify the consequences by declaring a truce. I’m guessing others not so disciplined could use that as the ultimate out.

I always told ours that actions have consequences and the consequences were always reduced if I heard it from them. If they hid it and we found out, consequences doubled. I’m sure they got away with plenty, but there were many times when they came to us and took their lumps , especially after they suffered the double wammy a few times.

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@@ –

“I remember a little tirade of yours whereby when pushed, you came back playing your victim card saying I was THE MOST DANGEROUS blogger here because I misled people into thinking I was a nice person.”

Tell me about it. Yesterday he called me a bigot, but refused to say who I was bigoted against or provide a single quote that pointed to such bigotry. Oh yes, then he said that I was “not civil”.

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Intriguing that the Repubozos on Senate Finance and want to keep any federal funds from abortion when abortion is the law of the land. If they want abortion outlawed, let’s see them get it through Congress.o

Let’s see –the Supreme Court has upheld abortions and the Repubozos want to get at the law by endrunning around it in the new health care legislation. It was DUHFEATED.

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elections have consequences so do SFC votes…..

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I tried the lock in room approach on my stepson one time and regretted that one. In no time, he got bored and found some matches and, well, it was only carpet.

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There is a female sex offender who lives about four houses from me. I saw her address on the sex offenders registry.

When is she going to pay me a visit……….?????

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Carbon bigfoot

Love the nomme du jour!

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enter “call it like it is”…….

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What’s going on in Chicago?

WTF?

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I’ll be willing to bet that most of you self-righteous sickO’s,who insist these foolish sex offender
law’s represent justice,have probably done far worse sexually predatory things than some of these
on the list……………..You Know Who You Are………And you know what you have gotten away with.

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Call it Like It Is

Enough Said!

I know, son. I also know not to leave you alone with matches. It’s OK.

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Registry Laws have been proven to be ineffective and a waste of government resources and YET we continue to feed the hysteria behind the label. SEX OFFENDER does not equal CHILD MOLESTER. Until these labels are changed the perception will not change.
Wake up American: our politicians use smoke and mirros to make you think you are safer and all they are doing is wasting your tax dollars to win votes. “Getting smart on crime means moving beyond useless labels and catch phrases, and instead relying on science and date to shape policy” Attorney General Eric Holder

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NIF:

You must have missed this part of the article:

“The Georgia Sex Offender Registration Review Board, an official body, assessed a sample of offenders on the registry last year and concluded that 65% of them posed little threat. Another 30% were potentially threatening, and 5% were clearly dangerous.”

It does not bother me at all to treat child molestors like the scum they are. However, the sex offender registry is pretty much useless if 65%(not .0001% like you say) are not dangerous predators. It is not only people who had underage sex on the list. There was an example a few years ago of a man who was drinking on a golf course and urinated on a tree. A group of girls saw him and even though he was not doing anything sexual he was convicted of exposure and placed on the offender list. There was a man who robbed a Dairy Queen when he was seventeen. Because he did not allow anyone to leave during the robbery, he was convicted of kidnapping. Since there were underage patrons in the Dairy Queen he was placed on the registry because he kidnapped an underage person.

According to the Review Board such people make up 65% of the registry. Trim the registry down to the dangerous people, and then show them no mercy.

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Enter your comments here
State Rep. Jerry Keen really should invite all these people he has uprooted to live with him.
He’s a good Christian,he won’t have a problem with forgiveness.
Not all people on the registry are baby rapers or predators.
The laws need to be made to fit the crime.
No one wants the worst of the worst out roaming free.
The people who have done their time and who are not a threat to society
ought to be left the hell alone to work to provide for their families.
All this childish sniping back and forth is embarrassing.

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Christina,

The MAJORITY of the people on the list and being inconvenienced are not child rapists. You can do anything you like to the predators. The problem is that between 65 and 95 percent of the people on the list are NOT predators. All it would take to make this problem go away is to take the non-predatory offenses off of the offender list.

This list right now is useless. If you look at it and see four people close to your house it might concern you. However, you will miss the actual predator who is a farther away because people who had sex when they were 17 is closer to your house. You cannot find the actual dangerous people on the list because they are hidden by the non-danderous ones.

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Christina (9/30 at 4:17 pm): If you think Registration or any of Georgia’s other laws are “keeping child rapists away from kids” you truly are a completely uninformed fool. The people on Registries are not being monitored in any way, shape, form, or fashion. I understand that won’t make people who like the Registries feel better but I promise you that is reality.

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TP (9/30 at 4:00 pm): Sorry, I’m just sort of scanning all these posts backwards.

Do you really think someone who robs a Dairy Queen with a gun and holds people hostage is not particularly dangerous? I know that a good number of people who like the Registries and think they are just grand, really do believe that. To me, that is a pretty good example of the insane thinking that has driven how we’ve ended up with these idiotic laws.

You do understand how 90+% of child molestation occurs, don’t you? It is not by force and it is certainly not by some stranger. It almost always occurs by someone the child trusts grooming the child over a significant period of time. If you are a parent who has a person who was convicted of child molestation living next door, you simply don’t allow your child to have an intimate relationship with the person. You teach your children about grooming and sexual abuse and until you know that they will not be a victim, you supervise everything. It is that easy.

If you have a person living next door who will go into a building and rob people at gunpoint, I’m not sure that’s so safe. Perhaps, just maybe, the person enjoys drinking and taking drugs as well. And perhaps one day the person will decide to break into your home with a gun to rob it too. Maybe the person will put the gun in your child’s face until you tell him/her where all the valuables are.

I would much rather live in a neighborhood full of child molesters than around people with guns who drink and use drugs. Call me crazy, but I know I can protect my children from child molesters. Now child murderers, like John Couey, that’s another story and I’ve got other means for that. But of course we don’t even bother Registering people who have only negligently (or even intentionally) gotten children killed. That makes the Registries make more sense, huh?

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noncitizen2009,

I think you misunderstood my point in the description of the DQ robbery. He was stupid, but what he did would not be any indication of a tendency to molest children. If the list is intended to identify people who pose a threat to children, then it should ONLY list people who are actually a threat to children.

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http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com

I am totally against ANY form of abuse to any human being. And I believe anyone who murders another human being should be in prison for the rest of their life (until they die). I do not believe in the death penalty for anyone. Also, I believe that once a person has been in and out of prison and has served their probation and parole, done everything required of them, and what was signed on the “contract” when they took the plea, none of this should be required of them, none of it. The state cannot tear up a contract like this, which they are basically doing, it’s unconstitutional. Many people, if they had known they would be faced with all this, they would have NOT taken a plea deal. And the courts are very aware of this and this is why they made it retroactive; thus violating ex-post facto laws! They should be allowed to get on with their life as if nothing happened. I’m not saying for it to be removed from their record, but, the crime should be removed from public view and background checks, they should not have any more restrictions, shaming, etc. If they commit another crime, then they face a lot more punishment, like everything else is treated.

When an ex-offender is forced to move from his/her home, thus having to sell it, cannot find another home within the law due to the residency “buffer” zones, get fired from their jobs due to being on the registry, cannot find a new job due to being on the registry, their husband/wife lose their jobs due to a significant other being on the registry, their children lose their friends and are harassed and bullied in school due to a family member being on the registry, thus destroying the children’s lives, ex-offenders are forced into homelessness and to live under bridges, harassed by police, neighbors and probation/parole officers, have to wear “I’m a sex offender T-shirt” or have a neon green license plate on ALL their cars, have “sex offender” on their drivers license and forced to renew their licenses every year, forced from shelters during tornadoes or hurricanes, cannot give blood at some places due to being discriminated against for being on the sex offender registry, denied housing due to being on the registry, signs placed in their yards inviting harassment and ridicule from the neighbors, forced to move when the neighbors start picketing outside the ex-offenders home, the list is endless.

I THINK THIS IS CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT, BEYOND THE EXTREME!

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Hawkins was 16, not 15, and his victim was younger that 12 — how much younger? Well, you clearly don’t care to find out, do you? If you’re not going to contact the prosecutor and get the real facts in a case, which you ought to do, don’t you think you should — at bare minimum — take a cursory glance at the criminal records?

And he got a long sentence for two decades ago. It must have been a pretty disturbing crime.

Also, the crime for which he was convicted was attempted sexual battery of a child under 12. How do you justify allowing him, the convicted offender, to characterize the crime differently? He isn’t any “suspect innocent until proven guilty,” Jay — he is convicted of attempted sexual assault of a child under 12. You need to correct the record.

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What about someone accused by a crazy ex-wife of molesting their daughter at an early age simply because she is angry that he will not give her more money. He has given more than child support since the divorce. He never molested the daughter, spent 6 months in jail, which was driving him crazy, was offered a deal of pleading “no contest” with 5 years probation or going to trial and if he did loose the minimum sentence would be 8 years. Thinking the 5 years probation would be no problem, because this really is a decent man, chose to get out of jail and on with his life. Which by the way he thought he could step right back into. The lawyer he had spent his last $10,000 on gave him no advice or idea how hard life would be for him with this conviction attached to him like an albatross around his neck. His buddy he was living with is too close to a school so he has no where to live. He was living and working in another state where the police picked him up and transported him to where he was jailed leaving his car behind so he has no transportation, no job, no money and nowhere to live. What is this man to do? There are criminals who have committed murder and released to go on with their lives like nothing happened. How has our judicial system helped this once productive citizen?

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a_mom,perhaps I’ve somehow overlooked it but,
I can’t recall having read anywhere,anything to
suggest that Jay is defensive of Child Sexual
predators.I also have not seen anything to in-
dicate he is for leniency for them(beyond the
rule of law and common decency).To me this is
the basis for what is wrong with this entire dia-
logue.The simple truth is all these should not be
just lumped together.I believe that Jay’s views
are completely fair and honest.Now if you still
disagree,again I ask;why are there no beautiful,
young boy child molesting schoolteachers living
in this banishment camp?

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http://www.vimeo.com/6888581

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Bethany, the truth is out there but you have to willing to believe it. Why in the world are sex offender activists hanging out with know pro pedophile activist groups like NAMBLA? These pedos want to ABOLISH sex offender restrictions so they can have sex w/children without facing criminal penalities.

SOSEN wants to abolish all restrictions and tell me, how that will protect children? I spread the “truth” because I care more for the defenseless child over any the so called rights of registered sex offenders. Read this and open your eyes!

http://roarfortruth.blogspot.com/2009/09/sosen-village.html

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Hey Concerned, ROAR is dead on right! Go do your own research unless you intend to believe the SOSEN propaganda. Just because SOSEN posts some thing, does not make it true!

“SOSEN upholds fair and just laws that are evidence based, are effective and that protect the Constitutional rights of all citizens.”

You really believe that, then why did SOSEN CEO Linda Pehrson sign the RSOL Petition seeking to abolish ALL sex offender restrictions? SOSEN COO Mary Duval sign the same as well. Here is the RSOL petition, scroll down and read the 8 points and see the signatories names for yourself. ROAR knows how to research, do you?

Here is the original pedo site the petition was posted in 1998:

http://wikisposure.com/images/8/80/Ipcersol.png

Plenty of evidence if you research the “names” listed…NAMBLA members! Go Research for yourself if you think I’m lying.

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Just where does it say they want to “abolish ALL sex offender restrictions?” I could not find that statement in either the two sites you mention. Should we have some sort of registry? Yes, for law enforcement use ONLY. Society has proved it cannot handle the information and many people (those on the list and ‘innocent’ children of those on the list) have been hurt or demonized for it. If you really want every ’sex offender’ (using this term in its full breadth – ’sexting’ teens, rapists, molesters, and those who finished their sentences) in Georgia and around the country listed on some sort of public registry, I pity you. For you don’t grasp the severity of the precipice we are on then you really are a piece of work. Wait until someone close to you is involved and see if your position changes. There was a female legislator a few years (don’t recall her name) ago here in Georgia that was just as gung-ho to implement these new laws as Jerry Keen. Then her son was charged with a sex offense. Suddenly, the whole picture changed. She resigned from the committee and faded away. Do some ‘research’ and ask her now what should be done.

It would seem your mind is made up on the issue. No amount of common sense posting, no amount of verifiable studies will apparently change you mind.

Here is the 8 points from RSOL (for those who are interested):

Therefore, we call for the immediate reform of America’s sex offender laws33 – especially the state and Federal sex offender registries and the life-time civil commitment laws. We support the following immediate actions:

1. Abolish all provisions of state and Federal sex offender registries that publicly shame offenders. There should be no internet or other public posting of the identity, photograph, address, workplace or personal information of any offender, nor should this information be available to the public at police stations or registry offices. In cases of genuinely violent sex crimes, especially against young children, and with a specific finding of a likelihood to re-offend, registration may be required, but information will be shared only among police officials, or if a court rules it appropriate, with institutions serving children or others who might be vulnerable to abuse. Strong penalties should be levied against police or others privy to the registration information who violate the privacy of the offenders.
2. Abolish all life-time civil commitment for sex offenders34 who have completed prison sentences and/or parole and probation. In cases of violent offenses and specific findings of a likelihood to re-offend, carefully constructed court hearings, with medical advice and full due process, should determine if the person may be further incarcerated, and then only for a short time and with regular review. The ultimate goal of all measures aimed at sex offenders should be their return to the community when they are not likely to re-offend.
3. Stop public vilification and demonization of sex offenders. Oppose the use in the media or by public officials of obviously pejorative language with regard to offenders. Label only actually violent acts as violent crimes – define violence simply and logically as a physical attack or threat that causes real harm.35 Use of the term “pedophile” should be extremely limited and accurate.36 Children should be defined as persons under the age of puberty.
4. De-criminalize all consensual sexual activities among teenagers.37 Stop all required sex offender registration for minors.38
5. Abolish all laws that provide the death penalty* or life in prison without parole for sex offenders.
6. Support broad sex education for children, and empower them to make their own decisions and stand up for their rights.
7. Provide accurate information and support valid research about sex offender characteristics39 and recidivism rates.40
8. Help sex offenders re-enter society by abolishing measures which make it difficult for them to find a place to live41 and a decent job.42 Encourage support groups for sex offenders, including help with finding housing, employment, and effective treatment, before their release and afterward.

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If these people didn’t molest kids, they wouldn’t be homeless now. Maybe they should have considered the consequences. Sure, an 18 year old who sleeps with his 17 year old girlfriend should be categorized differently. I can see adjusting the law on that one, but otherwise, I don’t want child molesters near my kids. Sorry they are in the woods, but I’d be a lot sorrier if they hurt my child. Perhaps they can move somewhere else with different housing options. It’s a big state.

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Sex laws have been built on misconceptions and myth.
The Supreme Court just ruled on sex offender laws where some factions of our government think by some inert reasoning that sex offender should be quarantined or executed. Video taken in another country shows where sex offenders were placed on a pole much like the Catholics use to use a pyramid shaped object and have them sit on it and spin, the pole travels through the body looking for the throat but if not found its ok because the sharpened end of the pole will come out somewhere to the delight of these very strange people who think such thoughts are a bit barbaric. The heritage of the act is in its self a brutal throwback to violent uneducated people who are so obsessed with any sex & the only way to deal with this kind of “hierarchy” of historic hysteria. A word taken from hysterectomy, hysteria is tied to castration, we are supposed to be the most advanced nation and we still have a death penalty when the rest of the world except for some nations we are still warring with/selling weapons too, while other nations went home our weapons dealers and torture lovers delighting in support for the death of people they don’t know or want to simply because they don’t know how to get money with out taking it from someone by force. Is that supposed to include mutilations? In my humble opinion this alone “is” terrorist activities as much as severed hands, ears, heads, or making a case with nothing more than an obsession justified by lies. The registry’s origin in the Jim Crow hang~um laws that brought disgrace to our nation allowing thieves and murderous societal bigots who have trashed any shot at making good of a program in its design to make money destroying our nation and its people. We can not survive using this behavior model because we are compounding the problem since the numbers are increasing to include the children they purport to protect.
The doctoring, castration/hysterectomy/health care/physic care of people through sex laws that have damaged everyone it has touched. What about the people who are being used by the Medicare programs that requires these mutilations for both men and woman after they take their means of support? Digging around in someone’s genitalia because you want what a weaker nation? Can’t you see? You have created the model and it is worthless! Why don’t we just indiscriminately kill people we don’t know? That is statically the next sex offender, because over 90% of all new offences are committed by someone “not” on the sex offender registry and the numbers are increasing not decreasing so as a behavior model this is really worthless.
So what is the use of such laws as the sex offender registry other than to terrorize people? With the murder of so many sex offenders and the continued disregard for life by the use of the registry it will be no time at all before the federal government will be held liable for their deaths through federal court. Best regards

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Take that damn unconstitutional Adam Walsh Act and shove it up John Walsh’s ass. The sex offender registry should be abolished because it violates the United States Constitution. You want to protect your children; keep your damn children off the internet. Don’t give your children cell phones. Nobody under 18 should be allowed on websites like myspace and Tagged. Nobody under 16 should be allowed to have a cell phone. Nobody under 16 should be allowed to use a computer without direct adult supervision. It should be a criminal offense for anyone under 16 using a cell phone. It should be a criminal offense for anyone under 16 using a computer without direct adult supervision. It is time people start using their brains instead of punishing people who served their sentences.

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ISN’T IT GREAT HOW MANY IGNORANT FOOLS ARE ON HERE?! Learn to respect other’s opinions. Atleast the law should differentiate among the severity of the sex offenses. Let’s say your 17 year old daughter sent a naked picture to an 18 year old boy. Is that his fault? He didn’t take that picture, nor did he physically force her to send it to him. Yet you still press charges and he is marked for life as a nasty kiddie porn freak, A SEX OFFENDER. This isn’t right. And in this particular case, your daughter is just as guilty because she distributed it. You don’t want her marked for life. Meanwhile, there are molesters (one in particular I can think of) that have gone free because of a technicality; Perhaps the child used adult lingo (”blowjob”), so they say they can’t prosecute. So while this creep goes free, the rest of the world is bent on ruining the life of a fairly innocent person who made one little, simple mistake. And they pay dearly.

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most of the people that has commited these sex crimes where abused as a child themself,and alot of this sex violence thats coming out is due to the world selling the porn in every store you walk in .i say its the worlds fault we have failed by lowering ourself to sell such garbage! and yes most of these crimes are commited by a family members so i garantee you at least one person out of every family has done a sexual act in one way or another that they know is wrong!! check your family!

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Hello all,,, heres how i see it,,,,the sex offender laws are assumption laws,,,and they label everybody on it as predatory! I feel that just because someone committed a “Sex offense” they arent necessary a Sex offender! just as,,just because a person manages to put a stripe of paint on a canvas doesnt make them an Artist! If a person Identifies as a Sex offender,,he becomes what he is,,,and these laws forces the offender to identify as such! if you identify as a thief,, then you will steal,, its a given! But i call these laws assumption laws,, because they ASSUME just because a 18 year old has Consensual sex with a 15 year old, that he will rape a 5 year old or another 15 year old,, to me that like saying that if a man is attracted to a woman,, he will rape all women! I for one dont condone child molestation,,,,,but also consider that in the eyes of the law,,,Consensual sex with a 12 year old is rape ! Even when the 12 year old liked it,,,the picture painted will be a tall dark shadow hovering over a 40 lb child in bunny sleeping suit holding a stuffed animal who is scrunching in a corner in tears! Grant it,, the Adult Should KNOW better! And to end up, refering to some comments in here,, i once read a Criminal Justice book and the former judge who wrote it stated,,,On the same logic that the law uses to make people register,,,ANYone who ever committed a felony should be on it!! not just Sex crimes,,,,her point being,,,A disregard in human life and peoples feelings as a WHOLE has to be considered,, and not just Sexual,,,Yes,, a bank robber is Just as bad as a Sex offender,, Yes,, a wife beater is just as bad as a Rapist! When you hurt people , you hurt people,,,doesnt matter whether you get off on it or not!!

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one more point and ill leave Yall alone,,,,3 boys could take 3 girls to a secluded area,,,,,all 3 could make moves on their dates,,,,All three had the same intentions,, and ONE girl complains,,,the one guy who was with that ONE girl is arrested and tried and put on the registry,,,,,Point is,,,,all 3 guys had the same intentions,, they all made the same moves,, only one had to register,, what made that ONE any more dangerous than the other 2 ?? 3 boys with the same intentions,,same desires,,,but only one gets on the registry! That ONE boy was victim to that ONE girls Perception,,,That ONE girls perception Changed that One boys Life FOREVER! Just think , for every ONE guy you have on the registry,, i gaurentee that there are dozens more who has the the same thing and is NOT registered! If we all look back in our lives we may all find that we have all committed what might, by todays laws be considered rape! the laws throw that word around loosely nowadays,, Rape, malestation,,,child abuse,,,,,and if thats the case, i bet we were all raped, abused or molested by todays standards! So,, watch out for Sex offenders who arent convicted or Registered! And statics says that 90 percent of new sex crimes are committed by poeple NOT on the registry,, and Now,,,70 percent of Sex Crimes are committed by Juveniles themselves! and Juveniles commited 50 percent of Crimes altogether!

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Anti-choice activists are child molesters by default, since they support parental rights for violent pedophiles.

We need to prosecute all of the doctors who force women to remain pregnant against their will for rape. Forced pregnancy is sexual assault and it should be treated as such.

We also need to prosecute the entire anti-choice movement for terrorism, too.

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