Ga.’s sex-offender laws an injustice themselves

You know, it takes a lot to generate sympathy for a sex offender. But Georgia’s draconian laws about where sex offenders can live are doing the trick. It’s downright ridiculous.

“A group of homeless sex offenders who had been living in tents in the woods behind an office park near Marietta were told they had to leave the land by Tuesday.

“We don’t want to allow anyone to live on our property for liability issues,” said Mark McKinnon, a spokesman for the Georgia Department of Transportation, which owns the wooded land where the sex offenders had taken residence.

Several men said their probation officers had told them about the encampment as a kind of last resort for homeless sex offenders trying to meet the strict residency requirements of their probation.

Georgia’s law prohibits the state’s 16,000 sex offenders from living, working or loitering within 1,000 feet of schools, churches, child care facilities and other areas where children gather. It limits the locations where they can live….

William Hawkins, 34, a registered sex offender living in the camp, gathered his belongings Tuesday.

He’s not sure where he’s going to go.

When Hawkins was 15 years old, he had sex with a 12-year-old in Florida and received two years of house arrest and 10 years’ probation. “I have a 19-year-old case. Technically, I don’t think I have to be on it,” Hawkins said of the sex offender registry.”

The law hounding those people has no real purpose but to, well, hound them. As experts have testified to the Georgia Legislature, it serves little or no protective function. A sexual predator intent on finding victims will do so, regardless of where he (or occasionally she) is forced to live. Furthermore, unlike many states, Georgia law makes no distinction between somebody like Hawkins and somebody who has a history of true predation.

An even better example is Wendy Whitaker, who as a 17-year-old was caught performing oral sex on a 15-year-old classmate. That incident back in 1996 put her on the same sex offender list as a multiple rapist, As The Economist recently pointed out in an article featuring Whitaker as an example:

“The Georgia Sex Offender Registration Review Board, an official body, assessed a sample of offenders on the registry last year and concluded that 65% of them posed little threat. Another 30% were potentially threatening, and 5% were clearly dangerous.”

Given that reality, throwing them all into the same bag and forcing them to live together in surreptitious little communities helps no one. If serious threats must be freed, restrict their movements and track them closely. But don’t pretend that they’re all the same. Law enforcement officials have already told legislators that the law is overly strict, forcing officers to spend precious time tracking low-risk offenders that could better be spent elsewhere. But politicians passed the law as an act of grandstanding, and so far they haven’t summoned the courage to correct it.

Of course, much of the rest of the world is more intrigued by the case of Roman Polanksi, who hasn’t exactly been living in a tent city in the 32 years since he drugged and raped a 13-year-old girl. Ann Woolner, a columnist for Bloomberg, explores that case and reaches what I think is the right conclusion:

“The shame is that it has taken this long to sort everything out. The blame for that lies with Polanski for refusing to answer for evading the law.

Celebrate the man’s talent, honor his contributions to filmmaking. However gifted he is, Polanski’s art can’t serve as a reason to ignore his terrible crime or his refusal to answer for it.”

The injustice done to the Wendy Whitakers of the world, and maybe to the William Hawkins, far outweigh any alleged unfairness to Polanski.

UPDATE: I should note that my colleague Cynthia Tucker has also weighed in on the Polanski case, reaching a verdict similar to Woolner’s.

“It’s important for Polanski to face the bar of justice, even thirty years late. His appearance would serve as an example to others among the wealthy and glamorous that they are not above the law. Neither money, fame, connections nor artistic achievement should excuse you from facing up to your crimes. Forcing Polanski into court, in a case which will receive lots of media attention, might also stiffen the resolve of other victims of sexual violence who are trying to find the courage to face their abusers.”

364 comments Add your comment

USinUK

September 30th, 2009
8:40 am

this is the problem with the race to be the “toughest on crime” – all the cases that aren’t quite so black and white get chucked in with the real horror stories.

GEORGE AMERICAN

September 30th, 2009
8:45 am

I LOVED THE CHANCE TO CAMP OUT EVERYDAY, BUT I HAVE TO WORK TO PAY MY TAXES!!! WE HAVE TO STAY TOUGH ON THESE CRIMINALS TO KEEP THEM FROM CRIMES!!!

BUILD MORE PRISONS IF THERE IS NO PLACE FOR THESE CRIMINALS. JUST LIKE “ILLEGALS” WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ABOUT “CONVICTED FELLIN”???

GEORGIA NEEDS MORE PRISONS AND 3-STRIKES (AND I’M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BRAVES (HA HA HA!!!)

Joey

September 30th, 2009
8:48 am

Something that Jay and I can agree on.

3rd Party Guy

September 30th, 2009
8:50 am

This law is worse than ridiulous, it’s sickening. It is just another example of how politicians can pretend to be doing something to solve a problem. It then gives someone a mandate to be a do-gooder without requiring the common sense to take logical action. Go government!

jt

September 30th, 2009
8:50 am

“But don’t pretend that they’re all the same.”

The only time a lefty will proclaim the sanctity of individualism concerns sex crimes.

Go figure.

Mrs. Godzilla

September 30th, 2009
8:51 am

sex offenders living in tents, Roman Polanski fighting extradition
and the SOB who introduced me to adult sexuality at age 4 walks about free and unencumbered.

yep, we have problems with sex offender laws.

Mrs. Godzilla

September 30th, 2009
8:52 am

“The only time a lefty will proclaim the sanctity of individualism concerns sex crimes”….there’s your sign!

Bosch

September 30th, 2009
8:54 am

I was wondering if you were gonna jump into this story. I’m almost certain that by the time I post this, Andy will have accused you of supporting child rape, but the part of this story I find really crazy is the fact that their probation officers directed them to this camp. That tells me that there is absolutely no place for these people to go. So, I guess their only alternative is to wonder the streets and most likely repeat their offenses.

Nothing is Free

September 30th, 2009
8:54 am

Jay

You make decent money. How about you taking them in? That would be really great. Finally you would be actually doing something instead of just complaining about other people.

Let us know where you want to keep them so we can all bring by some good porn for them to watch.

America. What a country.

Jackie

September 30th, 2009
8:56 am

It appears these laws are extra-Constitutional.
It is the scarlet-letter concept, if the individual has served their sentence, they are further punished by not allowing them to start their new life as a convicted felon.

Politicians do what they think will help them get re-elected, not what is in the best interest of societal norms.

Taxpayer

September 30th, 2009
8:59 am

I think they should be allowed to camp out on Congressional grounds. After all, we may as well get some use out of the space and we know that it meets all the restrictions that are imposed to date on sex offenders, don’t we?

Nothing is Free

September 30th, 2009
8:59 am

Jackie

Actually child molesters are not ever cured. they are punished, but every piece I have seen done on child molesters say that they cannot be reformed.

So you may want to consider that children who live around these people are always a potential victim. And from that perspective, can you see why parents would not want them living next door?

Richard Cash

September 30th, 2009
9:01 am

Jay, Invite them to stay with you. Then you can invite all the other lawbreakers to live with you too. I’m sure if that did happen, you would expect the tax payers to pay for that also. You are a trip man…….

Where The Sheep Have No Name

September 30th, 2009
9:01 am

Let the libs open up their backyards and basements for these offenders to live in. Have their wives make iced tea and cook for them, too. Let them upstairs (after the kids have gone to school, of course) to take a shower and brush their teeth. Teach them how to sing “Kum-ba-ya” with the family. Let them borrow the family car (with the “Kerry For President”, “O”, “Co-Exist”, and “End This War” bumper stickers) so that they can look for jobs. Feel good about yourselves that you are helping your fellow man. Forgive them when they rape your daughter.

Normal

September 30th, 2009
9:02 am

NIF, you seem unusually angry this morning…somebody steal your tent?

Nothing is Free

September 30th, 2009
9:02 am

Brad Steel

I would just as soon they stay in jail. And I don’t have a porn collection. Do you?

So I’m a tool for who?

godless heathen

September 30th, 2009
9:02 am

These sex offender laws are about the stupidest laws ever passed by our legislators and that’s saying something. What difference does it make if you force a perve to live 1000 feet from anywhere kids are? Sex crimes are usually not perpetrated on strangers, but rather in a “family” or acquaintance situation.

I’m sure the morons in the legislature went home bragging about how they were tough on sex offenders to “protect the children”. All show and no sense. Similar to many of our drug and gun zero tolerance laws.

Taxpayer

September 30th, 2009
9:03 am

Now, if they can just figure out how to punish people that have abortions, the USofA will be almost Perfect. It’ll just need a zip code so people will know where to flock.

Gale

September 30th, 2009
9:03 am

Liz and Joey, single payor ressponse downstairs. Crimess committed as minors should not condemn a person to a sex offender list for life. Adolescents will experiment with sex. It happens. It does not make them predators. Now, if the act was actually rape, not statutory rape, and did include a violent act, punish the violence and do not assume the person is a sexual predator.

Nothing is Free

September 30th, 2009
9:04 am

Normal

Actually I am having a great day. Another day of watching the dims failing miserably. What could be better?

How about you?

USinUK

September 30th, 2009
9:04 am

NiF –

“Actually child molesters are not ever cured. they are punished, but every piece I have seen done on child molesters say that they cannot be reformed.”

I agree with you – that’s what the studies seem to show.

however, as the article states, above, not everyone who is on the sex offender list would fall into that category (like the woman mentioned in Jay’s article).

godless heathen

September 30th, 2009
9:04 am

Finn McCool

September 30th, 2009
9:05 am

from below:
A Democrat Prez, Democrat controlled House, Democrat controlled Senate, and they can’t even get this bill out of committee.

That’s because the Democrats aren’t asleep at the wheel as the Republicans were from 1994-2006. It’s a lot easier to get things done when your Republican Senators all follow the shepard call of the party leaders. Sheeple Republicans. No wonder our country was practically ruined under their leadership.

Taxpayer

September 30th, 2009
9:06 am

Let the Republicans pay taxes to keep offenders off the street. They seem to like to mandate as long as it does not impose any restrictions on them, including paying for their mandates.

Bosch

September 30th, 2009
9:06 am

NIF,

There is a difference between child molestor and sex offender. I guess you chose not to read Jay’s article.

Gandalf, the Wise

September 30th, 2009
9:07 am

Barretta said it best “don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time”
:roll: just sayin’ :roll:
:!: Damn Skippy! :!:

Why don’t we just ship them to Mexico? They ship thier crimminals here… :roll:

Nothing is Free

September 30th, 2009
9:08 am

godess heathern

**Sex crimes are usually not perpetrated on strangers, but rather in a “family” or acquaintance situation.**

An acquaintance like a neighbor? The little girl that lives down the street and walks past their house every day in order to catch the bus?

Apparently, not many liberals on here have ever had kids of their own. They just want the parents among us to deal with their kindness to the worst in our culture.

Normal

September 30th, 2009
9:08 am

NIF, I’m having a great day too…watching all the whiners whine and never offering alternate solutions…now that’s entertainment! :lol:

Finn McCool

September 30th, 2009
9:08 am

They can’t all live at Larry Craig’s house?

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

September 30th, 2009
9:08 am

Out of all the people in the world that need voices speaking out for them, the enslaved women and children of Islam and the oppressed dehumanized people of North Korea quickly come to mind, why do liberals always pound their chests on behalf of perverts (your beloved justice system saw fit to punish them, same as they saw fit to legalize the murder of unborn children, so there must be something to it, no?) and the like?

Just sayin…..

Nothing is Free

September 30th, 2009
9:09 am

Bosch

i read Jay’s article, but Bosch, I don’t discuss anything with a liar, like you.

Gandalf, the Wise

September 30th, 2009
9:09 am

Can’t they go camp out in the Okeefeefanokee swamp? Sounds like a better place to camp to me!

Bosch

September 30th, 2009
9:10 am

NIF,

How ’bout if I come fluff the pillows on your swooning couch?

Lynders

September 30th, 2009
9:12 am

I look at it this way. If Georgia has tough laws I agree with them. I was physically and sexually abused as a child by my own stepfather and know how it feels. But I also see kids that shouldn’t be dressed as they do,or allowed to be out on the streets after dark either. Where’s the prosecution of the parents?

BUT, what if offenders live and work in the state of Georgia, and have some type of registration in Georgia then? Georgia ought to be providing a place for them to work and stay to be a functional member of society until such a time that they can re-enter society and live on their own. How about a Farm with a woodshop, metal shop or something like that?

Thats not to say Georgia should support them, but if they weren’t retrained and placed somewhere outside of prison, just where do they expect them to live with the meager cash they get when they get out? Either that, or transport them in agreement with another state. The one guy highlighted in the article was only 15 yrs old when he committed the crime and the girl was 12….why did they not prosecute HIS parents?

Nothing is Free

September 30th, 2009
9:13 am

Normal

Only far lefties seem to think that another solution is needed.

Taxpayer

September 30th, 2009
9:14 am

Whiner,

please feel free to give to charities that support the oppressed people of Islam and North Korea. There are no laws restricting you from doing that.

Bosch

September 30th, 2009
9:14 am

NIF,

Such hate filled vomit.

CWILLI

September 30th, 2009
9:15 am

Not all are truly sex offenders, some were entrapped not saying they would not have committed the crime, but how can you put someone in jail put them on a list for life and they never committed the actual crime. The old saying idle mind is the devils play ground, yes I know of someone who did a stupid thing, he was working being a good father to his children, because work was slow one day told to go home. Went home got on the internet and went into a chat room and there pops this girl talking this person never really stated age if so I really didn’t pay attention in the chat room when signing up it states you must be 18 so this person lied, so we decide to meet soon as this person goes tothe desinated meeting place police arrested him. Now tell me where is the crime truly. Now this person can’t get a job, went to church was ran out of the church life just destroyed now he is unable to take care of his children and he has to register for life. This is ridiculous them good old boy legislators need to get a grip. But we all need to stand together find out who they are and let them know votes do count. And don’t get me wrong someone who has actually committed the act of ray or having sex with a child I totally agree with the law. But what about the young prostitues out on the street who say they are 18 or older only 13 & 14 and actually someone these young girls want this, some of these young girls who are out there having sex want to do it. It hasn’t been that long ago where young girs were encouraged toget married at 13 & 14 to keep from being old maids and that was in the United States of America.

Turd Ferguson

September 30th, 2009
9:15 am

Jay, perhaps you might share your humble abode with a few of them?

Nothing is Free

September 30th, 2009
9:16 am

Lynders

I understand what you saying about the parents, but you just can’t lock your kids up because liberals don’t want to lock up the bad guys.

NRB

September 30th, 2009
9:16 am

Only the AJC could stoop low enough to defend child molestors.

Slow news day, kookman? Don’t you have kids yourself? Not only should you be ashamed, you should be fired.

Jackie

September 30th, 2009
9:16 am

@NIF

In that sex offenders are never cured, I agree. However, do you think rapists, bank robbers and other repeat offenders are cured?

Given this question, what should we do with those that continue to repeat crimes?

If one would look at things objectively, if a person is killed and the perpetrator is charged with manslaughter or murder, is the victim still dead?

I believe we should structure punishment that is reflective of the crimes committed.

Finn McCool

September 30th, 2009
9:16 am

What would Jesus say to his lost children in the forests?

Would he not weep that people, little different from the tarnished ones, have chosen to throw them into the wild?

I think he would have a wag of the finger to the ninnies who choose to banish people who have paid their dues already.

Bosch

September 30th, 2009
9:16 am

Lynders,

The problem is that all sex offenders are not child molesters and should not be all grouped together.

Turd Ferguson

September 30th, 2009
9:18 am

Finnius. Along with the thousands of homeless/bums you have helped perhaps you might help a few of these sex offenders.

Taxpayer

September 30th, 2009
9:18 am

The problem is that the sex offenders must continue to move in order to meet the Republican mandates and, in the case of the camp on public property, people with children that have lost their jobs in this Republican-created recession have probably started moving there. So, the offenders must go, again. Even the ones that pose no threat to anyone.

stands for decibels

September 30th, 2009
9:19 am

I had to google Megan’s Law to verify what I’d suspected–it’s been nearly twenty years, now, since I started wondering about where the efforts to isolate men who’d already “paid their debt to society” would end up. I guess if you’d asked me back then to say it’d be some embarrassing tent city, I might’ve laughed and said “surely it won’t come to that.”

Well it’s come to that.

Like you say, Jay, obviously there should be the ability to monitor the activities of these offenders once they’ve served their time. But the insane laws restricting where they are permitted to live should’ve been deemed unconstitutional a long time ago.

Turd Ferguson

September 30th, 2009
9:19 am

Finnius, how would you know what Jesus would say? Stop parroting the stupid comments, you hear each Sunday, that are babbled by your even more stupid minister.

Finn McCool

September 30th, 2009
9:21 am

NIF,
Bosch ruined your night, didn’t he? He got under your skin bad!

Go Bosch!!

Nothing is Free

September 30th, 2009
9:22 am

Jackie

**However, do you think rapists, bank robbers and other repeat offenders are cured?**

it’s very simple. Robbing a bank does not screw up a child for the rest of their life. Can you see the difference?

And Bank robbing is not a mental illness. So yes, they can be taught that robbing banks is bad.

Bosch

September 30th, 2009
9:23 am

Finn,

This little tyrade is a record I do believe. :-)

Wow.

BR

September 30th, 2009
9:23 am

I say these punk sex offenders gave up all their rights when they violated a young girls or boys rights. I have no mercy for sex offenders and neither do people in prison. The state needs to continue to be tough on these animals.

Jay

September 30th, 2009
9:23 am

Please cease the personal attacks on each other.

USinUK

September 30th, 2009
9:23 am

Bosch –

“i read Jay’s article, but Bosch, I don’t discuss anything with a liar, like you.” and “Go take your little boy tantrums to someone who cares, liar.”

… sounds like someone has a cruuuuuush on yooouuuuu …

Mrs. Godzilla

September 30th, 2009
9:24 am

OK, I’ll be good

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

September 30th, 2009
9:24 am

please feel free to give to charities that support the oppressed people of Islam and North Korea. There are no laws restricting you from doing that.

I’m sure that will do alot of good, Taxxie, who do you suppose distributes this charity to the concentration camp inmates?

I got an idea, why don’t you fascist pinko liberals spend as much time denouncing the butchers of Islam than you do Christians in the United States?

Skeered, are you?

Big brave lib, fighting churchgoers.

Brad Steel

September 30th, 2009
9:24 am

Ridiculous convictions of horny teenagers, wildly over-crowded prisons with non-violent pot sellers.

Thanks Reagan-era get-tough-on-crime crowd and your pandering politicians. Your conservative movement laws have done for the criminal justice system what your deregulation laws did for the economy.

Taxpayer

September 30th, 2009
9:25 am

Well, I just hope that this conversation does not degrade into a discussion about whether a former Republican is ever truly cured. I just don’t want to go there. I’m cured for as long as the Republicans are what they are today. And, that’s a fact. And, no amount of temptation will sway me. They can say no and they say no more taxes and they can say drill here and they can say freedom fries and on and on and it’s not working.

Bosch

September 30th, 2009
9:25 am

BR,

Some of these sex offenders did not necessarily violate a young girl or boys rights.

Again: sex offender does not automatically equate to child molester – a child molester is a type of sex offender, but they are not mutually exclusive.

Barry

September 30th, 2009
9:27 am

Bookman is 100 percent correct on this one, and every one of the pandering politicians who put these laws in place knows it. But none of those politicians has the guts to fix this problem, so it’s likely we’re stuck with it until the courts strike down these absurd distance restrictions. Then just watch those same spineless politicians run for re-election while complaining about “activist judges.”

Mrs. Godzilla

September 30th, 2009
9:27 am

Here’s a question….

How many of us had underage sex? With an underage partner?

RealTalk

September 30th, 2009
9:27 am

What a Joke of an Article to read this morning. Jay Bookman your a Joke. I love the AJC, even if I can’t stand Cynthia Tucker and her nonsense.I am a life long Atlantan.I have ZERO sympathy for Child Molesters, and am waiting for our Society to have a better policy towards them. Our Laws are fine and child molesters should suffer.Their Vicitms never get over it. They are very sick and can NEVER be reformed. Look at the Stats. We need to eliminate all child molesters or rapist by jail or Death. Period. Our Society will be better off and our children will be safer.How is that bad? Liberal or Conservative taxpayers want to protect our children. Vicims never truly recover while offenders are let back out to commit the same crime. The Internet also gives these monsters another outlet to prey on our children. We all need to have an adult discussion on better ways to protect our familes.

Our Goverment does not protect us anymore. It is time the people to stand up. The Supreme Court rulled recently that Child Molesters can not be put to death, unless murder was involved.What a Joke. Shame on Them. The Death Penalty should be for those Monsters. They Have no rights. You lose your rights when you hurt children. Lets Rid our country of these monsters. A Country that doesn’t have Child Molesters or rapist. That is Real Change you can Believe in. Wake Up America and Atlanta.

OR Maybe we can just ship them all to Iran or Cuba for a New Start.

Nothing is Free

September 30th, 2009
9:27 am

USinUK

Can’t tell the difference between someone who is disgusted by the lack of a backbone of another individual and someone who has a crush on someone. I see.

You don’t actually vote, do you?

Sally E.

September 30th, 2009
9:28 am

As a victim of child molestation, I don’t have sympathy for the offenders but fair is fair. Why continue to punish them after they’ve served their sentence? If you want to track their whereabouts for life, then sentence them to a life sentence. Also, their should be some common sense exercised in adding offenders to the registry. Some people clearly do not deserve to be on that list.

RW-(the original)

September 30th, 2009
9:28 am

Enter your comments here–

How come Wendy never ventured into the parts of the forest I visit? And in 1996 wasn’t she basically following a Presidential directive?

Oh well, I’ve got to head to the forest right now so I’ll report back later if I find any strange camping arrangements. By the way, these people can camp anywhere that isn’t marked “no camping” in a National forest.

Nan

September 30th, 2009
9:29 am

I noticed a lot of the commenters here are doing the same thing the moronic legislature did: lump all sex “offenders” in together, regardless of the crime, which means a teenager who crossed the statutory rape line by having sex with a girlfriend or boyfriend only a year younger than him or her is treated the same way as a true sicko who abused small children. It’s absolutely senseless from a humane perspective, and it’s idiotic from the point of view of law enforcement. It forces registered offenders into a transient lifestyle, which makes it much, much harder for law enforcement to know where the most potentially dangerous offenders actually are. If a person cannot find a legal, decent place to live that person is going to be tempted to go underground — buy a fake ID, change his or her identity, and drop off the radar. Illegal aliens buy false identifications all the time — what’s to stop a pedophile from doing the same when he gets tired of huddling in a tent or living under a bridge?

Normal

September 30th, 2009
9:29 am

Jay, it’s time for another thread. There are people here who don’t know the difference between a predator and an offener. These “enlightened” ones have degenerated into name calling, insults and plain weird actions. Wait! That happened last time too, didn’t it? And the time before that? and the time….Oh never mind!

Gandalf, the Wise

September 30th, 2009
9:29 am

HERE IS THE ANSWER! GET CONVICTED OF A SEX CRIME, THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN BE FORGIVEN IS TO GO TO AFGHANISTAN AS A WARRIOR! GET A BODY COUNT OF OVER 100 AND YOU CAN SAFELY COME BACK TO SOCIETY!

Mrs. Godzilla

September 30th, 2009
9:29 am

How many of us according to the law, were sex offenders on Prom night?

Nothing is Free

September 30th, 2009
9:30 am

Mrs. Godzilla

What you and others seem to want to center this discussion on is apparently very rare. The vast majority of sex offenders are exactly that: sex offenders.

Change the sentencing laws but don’t let the pervs out.

Peadawg

September 30th, 2009
9:30 am

It depends on the case. If a 35 yr old has sex w/ a 15 yr…put him in jail and let him have to watch out when he drops the soap.

If a 16 yr old has consensual sex w/ a 15 yr old…if it was really consensual, than nothing should be done.

Mrs. Godzilla

September 30th, 2009
9:30 am

Taxpayer

September 30th, 2009
9:30 am

Give whiner. Give ’til it hurts. It is the christian churchgoer thing to do, isn’t it. Now, go ahead and show us all how much charity you have in your heart. Show us what all those teachings from the good book have done for you, I mean, for those less fortunate than you. Don’t be skeered.

Finn McCool

September 30th, 2009
9:31 am

My my, so many hard-working, tax-paying, upstanding middle and upper class citizens on the blog.

And how angry they all are!

Finding it hard to make ends meet, scrimping and saving and making all your payments on time but still can’t get ahead? And I suppose it doesn’t help after your beloved Republicans allowed business men to screw the pooch and empty out your 401k’s?

Hmm, maybe we should legalize prostitution or drugs so you unhappy people can find an outlet for your hate and bile?

Gandalf, the Wise

September 30th, 2009
9:31 am

NORMAL YOU ARE RIGHT, WE CAN’T TELL THE DIFFERENCE! (A PREDATOR IS A DRONE AIRCRAFT, AN OFFENER? ISN’T THAT A DECENT IPA FROM OREGON?) :ROLL:

Mrs. Godzilla

September 30th, 2009
9:31 am

C’mon guys? ANybody?

Not so Gullible

September 30th, 2009
9:32 am

Enter your comments here Don’t you notice how Jay loves to spout off about a hot button issue so all the sheep will respond on his blog. This gives the AJC an excuse to charge advertisers for “Hits”. If everyone would keep their fingers off the keyboard, pretty soon the AJC would totally get rid of Jay rather then just restrict him to silly activity.

Nothing is Free

September 30th, 2009
9:32 am

Normal

So what’s you solution, Normal? Let all the pervs out? Do you have kids? Do you care about kids? Can you possibly understand that the vast majority of sex offenders did not get charged because of a prom night date?

Normal

September 30th, 2009
9:32 am

Mrs. G. I had sex the first time at 14, but the woman was in her 30’s.
If that was sex abuse, I didn’t know it. It was an education to me.

USinUK

September 30th, 2009
9:32 am

NiF – Can’t tell the difference between someone who is disgusted by the lack of a backbone of another individual and someone who has a crush on someone. I see.

… me thinks thou doest protest too much … at any rate, it’s not nearly as bad as the fact that you can’t distinguish the difference between a true pedophile and someone who was put on the sex offenders list because of something that happened when they were a teenager …

“You don’t actually vote, do you?”

every election I can (helloooooo Nov 2010!) … and the fact that it pi$$es off people like you is an added bonus

Gandalf, the Wise

September 30th, 2009
9:33 am

JAY, WHAT DID I SAY? YOU ARE A FUNNY CAT FOR A JOURNALIST, WHICH AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION DO YOU SUPPORT? :roll:

stands for decibels

September 30th, 2009
9:34 am

Please cease the personal attacks on each other.

Ok, but I need a ruling. Is it a “personal attack” to point out that NRB, who writes @ 9.16:

Only the AJC could stoop low enough to defend child molestors.

…is the same man who has now twice defended the child murderer Timothy McVeigh. The same man who says that Timothy was “heroic” and “made the country better”?

USinUK

September 30th, 2009
9:34 am

whiner, since you’re concerned about the plight of women in the world, here’s some information for you:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/23/magazine/23Women-sidebar-t.html?_r=2&scp=3&sq=%22women%20for%20women%20international%22&st=cse

Choose a woman to lend to on kiva.org. The minimum amount is $25, and you can choose from people all over the world. The money will be used to support a business and will be paid back. Or go to globalgiving.com, find a woman abroad whose cause you identify with and make a small gift. On GlobalGiving, for example, we have supported a program to prevent runaway girls from being trafficked into brothels.

Sponsor a girl abroad through one of the many child-sponsorship organizations. We do so through Plan USA (planusa.org), but there are many other great ones, including Women for Women International (womenforwomen.org).

Become an advocate for change by joining the CARE Action Network at care.org. CARE is now focused on assisting women and girls for the pragmatic reason that that is where it can get the best results. The network helps people speak out and educate policy makers about global poverty.

(the NYT link includes additional links)

Finn McCool

September 30th, 2009
9:35 am

I Report writes why don’t you fascist pinko liberals spend as much time denouncing the butchers of Islam than you do Christians in the United States?

I don’t give a dern what other people do in other countries. I don’t live there and it’s none of my business what they do in THEIR OWN LAND. I live in America and I can only affect what happens here. So you can guess, I don’t subscribe to the US as world police idea, either.

Normal

September 30th, 2009
9:35 am

NIF, the solution is simple, let the ones who were caught up in this mess because they were courious and had underged sex go and get on with their lives. The predator, on the other hand, keep them institutionalized. They are a clear and present danger to children.

USinUK

September 30th, 2009
9:36 am

peadawg –

9:30 –

RAAAAAAMEN

Taxpayer

September 30th, 2009
9:39 am

Mrs. G,

I did not wait for the prom but I honestly cannot recall what the laws on the books were back then. The only laws I remember dealing with at the time was whether or not I had a right to not be beat to a pulp by one of my girl friend’s dads. He let me know real quick what my rights were and I was not about to argue with him. Of course, I feel the same way about my daughter. Then again, time and wisdom and circumstances do tend to have an affect on many of us — some good, some bad.

USinUK

September 30th, 2009
9:39 am

Mrs. G –

to answer your 9:27 question … I’m so white-bread … I was in my majority and so was he …

Hef

September 30th, 2009
9:40 am

Me, I don’t want a TRUE sex offender anywhere near my family and friends.For that matter I don’t want them near any family. I don’t have any problem with a TRUE sex offender especialy those who harm children locked away for the rest of their day’s. A couple examples in Mr Bookman’s piece seem extreme,and the laws should be amended in my opinion.

Nothing is Free

September 30th, 2009
9:40 am

USinUk

I’m sure your entire life is based on pi*sing someone off. That usually means that you think very little of yourself. Sorry about that, but not my problem.

I know that there are rare instances that teenagers get charged for something that should be considered nothing. But DO YOU UNDERSTAND that this is not the norm? DO YOU UNDERSTAND that the reason why news stories are made about those people is that they are so incredibly rare?

DO YOU UNDERSTAND that. as a parent, I would rather you do your best to pi*s others off by doing something other than work to free people that will be raping children?

Smile!!

Taxpayer

September 30th, 2009
9:40 am

Normal

September 30th, 2009
9:32 am
Mrs. G. I had sex the first time at 14, but the woman was in her 30’s.
If that was sex abuse, I didn’t know it. It was an education to me.

Why, you little big man!

getalife

September 30th, 2009
9:42 am

Skipped the prom and went to the party.

At least put them in Stone Mountain camping.

Geez.

William

September 30th, 2009
9:42 am

I have no remorse for a child molester! I do think these laws have become sympathy laws that violate people’s constitutional rights. If you pay for the crime then it should be over. Even Bill O’Reilly is too eager to give everyone a felony for almost any violation of the legal system.
A felony follows the person for life. To me that is punishment beyond the crime. Only a few scenarios would that apply. We as a people should demand criminals be punished, punished quickly, and punished in accordance with the crime. After punishment, the person should be given every opportunity to fit back into society. I do not believe in punishment for a crime not committed nor do I believe you should have the right to assume the person is going to committ a crime in the future.

Nothing is Free

September 30th, 2009
9:42 am

Normal

Of course. What you said is perfect, so you do understand the problem others might have with grouping the rare innocent with all the pervs.

Jackie

September 30th, 2009
9:42 am

@NIF

Any criminal convicted of a crime causes ancillary damage to his and other families.

If the child is traumatized by the crime against a family member, that crime is never forgotten.

Everything that is done has consequences, positive or negative, for children.

Hef

September 30th, 2009
9:45 am

MsGodzilla-Prom Night? How about 9th grade-did’nt have a clue of what I was attempting to do,luckily either did she. Can’t say it was enjoyable,but bragging rights with the guy’s was cool at the time.

Bosch

September 30th, 2009
9:46 am

Normal! Why that’s just so not normal!!!

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Mrs. G.,

I’ll take my fifth amendment rights on that one.

Hef

September 30th, 2009
9:46 am

MsGodzilla@8:51-Sorry

Barry

September 30th, 2009
9:46 am

RealTalk, surely you understand that not all registered sex offenders are child molesters. Perhaps you also missed the stats in Bookman’s column in that regard from the Georgia Sex Offender Registration Review Board. That is the basic problem: The current law treats teen offenders (like the referenced Wendy Whitaker) exactly the same as the stereotypical (and extraordinarily rare) predator who snatches a child off the street. By doing so, it makes enforcement more difficult for police, creates “process” offenses that unneccessarily clog the prison system, and – most importantly – MAKES CHILDREN NO SAFER. You would get precisely the same sort of result by passing a law that equates juvenile shoplifting with serial bank robbery, and then requiring anyone committing those crimes and everythihg in between to be placed on a registry that merely labels them all as “thieves.” So: If you like the current sex offender registry, perhaps you should lobby for creation of a “thieves registry.” Then start on a “driving offenses registry” next, where you can lump minor speeders and repeat DUI offenders in the same category.

William

September 30th, 2009
9:46 am

Lets talk about our first time?