Huckabee: Let’s run the UN out of the country

Conservative activists gathered in St. Louis over the weekend for the “How to Take Back America” conference, a phrase that always raises a question: “Take it back from whom?”

The conference was hosted by luminaries such as Phyllis Schlafly and Joseph Farah of World Net Daily, featuring speakers such as Joe The Plumber, U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann and Georgia’s own contribution to the cause, U.S. Rep. Tom Price of Roswell.

Among the workshops offered to conference participants were “”How to Recognize Living Under Nazis and Communists,” led by 83-year-old Kitty Werthmann, who grew up in Austria and believes that Obama is following the path carved out by Hitler.

“First they nationalized the banks. Then they nationalized education. As time went along, they nationalized health care,” Werthmann told an opening press conference.

The highlight of the convention Saturday night was a speech by former Arkansas Gov. and GOP presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, who targeted the United Nations and argued that it ought to be run out of the country.

“It’s time to get a jackhammer and to simply chip off that part of New York City and let it float into the East River, never to be seen again!” Huckabee said, inspiring a standing ovation.

“It’s time to say enough of the American taxpayer’s dollar being spent on something that may have been a noble idea, but has become a disgrace!” said Huckabee. “It has become the international equivalent of ACORN and it’s time to say enough!”

“Let’s end the diplomatic excesses that these people enjoy. Let any country that is willing to spend the money that the United States is hosting–let them have it. Give it to the Saudis and let these diplomats suck the sand out of the Saudi desert for a few summers and see if that’s where they’d like to go, and make their ridiculous speeches.”

It seems to me that in trying so hard to woo the hard core of the hard-core GOP base, Huckabee is also disqualifying himself permanently from a role in mainstream national politics. You get the sense that it’s a conscious choice on Huckabee’s part, perhaps driven by economic considerations. Hell never be president, but he’s guaranteeing himself a future income stream as a far-right darling.

240 comments Add your comment

Normal

September 28th, 2009
12:47 pm

Huckabee/Palin 2012, pleeze, pleeze oh pleeze….

Normal

September 28th, 2009
12:53 pm

Seriously though, is Huckster saying he wants isolationism again?

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator :-) You Whine :-(

September 28th, 2009
12:54 pm

Not a bad idea but I’m still a Palin/ Daniels man.

Bosch

September 28th, 2009
12:57 pm

“led by 83-year-old Kitty Werthmann”

Well, that’s part of the problem there – I’m sorry, but listening to the rantings of an old lady is one thing – I do that every day – taking her serious is another.

Bosch

September 28th, 2009
1:01 pm

I’ve been wondering what Joe the Plumber’s been up to.

This guy is a plumber. If I want his advice on how to unclog my toilet, I’ll call him – on matters of domestic and foreign policy – I’ll pass.

Dusty

September 28th, 2009
1:05 pm

Oh no!!! A 50% Palin piece by Bookman. He played too much golf this weekend. Musta stayed in the sand pits. Had to stoop low to eviscerate this one from the lowly ranks of Dem propaganda.

(And I just posted a fine piece on the last blog!!! Yes!!! :roll: All that work for nuthin!)

Later……kiddies!!

GEORGE AMERICAN

September 28th, 2009
1:07 pm

BACK IN MY DAY, WE DIDN’T HAVE THIS UN CRAP. THE ONLY UN WE HAD WAS UN-COLA, AND YOU CAN’T GET THAT IN TODAY’S FASCIST SOCIETY BECAUSE OF THE GOVERNMENT!!!

BUT ANY 83-YEAR-OLD HOTTIE WHO FOUGHT HITLER AND IS AGAINST HEALTH CARE HAS GOT MY VOTE!!!

PALIN/WERTHMANN 2012!!!

Peadawg

September 28th, 2009
1:07 pm

Normal, if the trend keeps going like is now and Obama’s approval continue dropping…I could be President over him. I’ve worked at the Boys and Girls Club and stuff like that (sorta like a community organizer I guess). I can use a teleprompter really well. So I’m qualified, right?

mm

September 28th, 2009
1:07 pm

Whiner,

Any ticket with Palin on it will cause you to whine alot more after the result is in.

Bosch

September 28th, 2009
1:09 pm

Peadawg,

Good for you, now when you become a Constitutional Law Professor like Obama, then maybe you can fill his shoes.

Peadawg

September 28th, 2009
1:11 pm

Ya but 2 out of 3 ain’t bad!

mm

September 28th, 2009
1:13 pm

Jay,

Yeah, these nutbags have the 20 percent club rallying their troops. But what the myopic retards don’t yet realize is that the other 80 percent of America has learned a lesson they won’t soon forget.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

September 28th, 2009
1:14 pm

Well, it couldn’t of been much of a conference without our GA hero Neal Horsley and his girlfriend the mule.

Anyhow, I sure hope Bookman ain’t trying to make fun of us Conservatives and a good Southren Baptist preacher like the Rev. Huckabee. The only way we’re ever going to get to a decent future is to go way back to the past when we didn’t have welfare programs and Those People knowed their place.

I’m sorry I missed Sister Dusty’s masterpiece on the last blog but I ain’t got time to go back and look it up. People put a powerful hurt on all the beer in the stores and bars last weekend, and I’m running to get the stocks back up. Anyhow, it’s probly the same old Sister Dusty writing about all the Commie libruls and egging the wars on and talking about the cheap wine she drinks. All I got to say is her and me must be the only Patriots on this whole blog. Have a good p.m. everybody.

Peadawg

September 28th, 2009
1:14 pm

” learned a lesson they won’t soon forget.”

If people haven’t learned by now, they sure will by 2012. Don’t elect someone that is THAT far on EITHER side of the line!

Zedd

September 28th, 2009
1:15 pm

The UN has far outlived it’s usefulness. Corruption, special interests. Boy those strongly worded letters are really working aren’t they?

Agnes

September 28th, 2009
1:18 pm

But you supported and elected a Community Organizer to run the country.

Normal

September 28th, 2009
1:19 pm

PEADAWG, I just figured that if the GOP put up the Huckster and Palin and, like you said, with the President going down, then maybe, just maybe, a third party will jump up and get things going. Ron Paul for President!

Taxpayer

September 28th, 2009
1:21 pm

The party of losers just gets weirder with each passing day. I am surprised that Orly was not there though. And, I wonder if ole Tom Price was up there telling folks not to take no government handouts if they were flooded out.

Normal

September 28th, 2009
1:21 pm

Agnes

September 28th, 2009
1:18 pm
But you supported and elected a Community Organizer to run the country.

Agnes, he was also a Senator for seven years, so let’s drop that “community Organizer” stuff. It’s demeaning…to you.

Voter

September 28th, 2009
1:21 pm

Huckabee is advocating to move the UN out of the US and most distinctly out of New York City — as a New Yorker who pays for these ridiculous “dignitaries” not only in US tax dollars but thru NYC tax dollar and horrific traffic conjestion — I totally agree. Get the UN out of the US — and if there is any state waiting for it with open arms, you can have it. And if you people do not think that the majority of Americans agree with Huckabee’s sentiments on the UN, then you had better step out of your ivory tower crowd — because you are in for a big, big, big shock in 2012.

Peadawg

September 28th, 2009
1:22 pm

I don’t mind Huckabee…but LORD PLEASE not Palin. I liked her until she opened her mouth. What’s that saying…”better to stay quiet and let people think you’re an idiot, then to open it and remove all doubt”? lol

Bosch

September 28th, 2009
1:24 pm

RE: Peadawg posting:

“What’s that saying…”better to stay quiet and let people think you’re an idiot, then to open it and remove all doubt”? lol”

Should I? Nah……

Doggone/GA

September 28th, 2009
1:26 pm

“I liked her until she opened her mouth”

Ok, now I’m curious…what was there to like until she opened her mouth? Or did you think she just LOOKED like a good VP candidate?

Taxpayer

September 28th, 2009
1:28 pm

Huckabee is the world’s worst bass player. I mean, he really needs to get a real job. Flippin’ burgers might be within his abilities.

Scooter

September 28th, 2009
1:29 pm

“Take it back from whom?”

That’s what I would like to know. Are they talking about the libs,dems or socialist or what? :???:

Taxpayer

September 28th, 2009
1:30 pm

Peadawg, say what??

Peadawg

September 28th, 2009
1:30 pm

Bosch, don’t even…. :)

Peadawg

September 28th, 2009
1:32 pm

“Ok, now I’m curious…what was there to like until she opened her mouth? Or did you think she just LOOKED like a good VP candidate?”

That was the point. Just another pretty face. She doesn’t belong in Washington.

Doggone/GA

September 28th, 2009
1:32 pm

“That’s what I would like to know. Are they talking about the libs,dems or socialist or what? ”

The “whom” is left implied: anyone whose “not like us” – never mind that if you try to pin them down they can’t even define what “like us” means!

Gawingnut

September 28th, 2009
1:34 pm

“Take it back from whom?”

Well, let’s ask a question to illustrate this. Take Obama & Eric Holder. Who’s really running the show in Washington? Acorn? Van Jones (I know, he resigned), Cass Sunstien?

Obama has had one conversation with the General in Command of the Afghan theatre. One in 8 months? Who’s running the show?

Answer those two questions & I’ll tell you who to take the country back from.

Doggone/GA

September 28th, 2009
1:34 pm

“That was the point. Just another pretty face. She doesn’t belong in Washington”

No argument there, but it doesn’t answer the question…what did you LIKE about her “until she opened her mouth”? That’s what I don’t understand, what WAS THERE to “like”?

Scooter

September 28th, 2009
1:42 pm

Answer those two questions & I’ll tell you who to take the country back from.

Dang,I can’t answer those questions either! Who you gona call?

Doggone/GA

September 28th, 2009
1:44 pm

“Answer those two questions ”

WHICH “two questions”? I count FIVE question marks. Pick two…any two

Peadawg

September 28th, 2009
1:44 pm

“but it doesn’t answer the question…what did you LIKE about her “until she opened her mouth”?”

here was my answer

“Just another pretty face”

Is that too hard to comprehend?

Taxpayer

September 28th, 2009
1:47 pm

“Do all ga wingnuts talk like that,” he asks in that familiar southern drawl, y’all.

Doggone/GA

September 28th, 2009
1:48 pm

“Is that too hard to comprehend?”

You betcha. You said you “liked” her before she opened her mouth…you STILL have not said what it was you liked. She was running for VP of the USA and you LIKED HER until she opened her mouth? So are you saying that on the strength of her having a “pretty face” you would have VOTED for her if she’d just kept her mouth shut?

mm

September 28th, 2009
1:49 pm

“And if you people do not think that the majority of Americans agree with Huckabee’s sentiments on the UN, then you had better step out of your ivory tower crowd — because you are in for a big, big, big shock in 2012.”

Thanks Voter, you proved my point. That sentiment is only shared by the 20 percent club.

lovelyliz

September 28th, 2009
1:50 pm

And yet the neo-cons in the GOP just don’t understand why people think the political crazies are in charge of the Republican House?

joe matarotz

September 28th, 2009
1:51 pm

How legitimate could this conference have been with the absence of those three wacky, lovable stooges: Boortz, Beck and Limburgher? This sounds like it was just a feather on the far right wing.
On the other hand, relocating the UN to Detroit would be interesting.

Peadawg

September 28th, 2009
1:52 pm

“So are you saying that on the strength of her having a “pretty face” you would have VOTED for her if she’d just kept her mouth shut?”

LOL! Ok Mrs. Dramatic. You think what you wanna think…if you’re really that much of a moron.

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

September 28th, 2009
1:55 pm

“Now, I know longer school days and school years are not wildly popular ideas,” the “president” said earlier this year. “Not with Malia and Sasha, not in my family, and probably not in yours. But the challenges of a new century demand more time in the classroom.”

Yeah, more time getting brainwashed and chanting praises to Obozo.

ew

Taxpayer

September 28th, 2009
1:55 pm

Do people actually listen to AM radio any more.

Scooter

September 28th, 2009
1:55 pm

Doggone/GA

September 28th, 2009
1:48 pm

I hate to but in,but you are splitting hairs. Move on.

Doggone/GA

September 28th, 2009
2:02 pm

“if you’re really that much of a moron.”

YOU like a “pretty face” on a politician running for VP…and you think *I* am the moron? Best joke of the DAY. Here’s some advice: next time don’t even TRY to justify why you “like” a politician…because you obviously can’t do it.

Maybe you can tell us who the conned are going to take the country back FROM, instead?

Normal

September 28th, 2009
2:02 pm

Doggone and Peadawg, Sarah as a Vice President is just to crazy an idea and mainly because a Vice President is supposed to stay in the background, supporting the President and his ideas, going forth and never being anything more than a good governmental servant. A Vice President is sort of like June to Ward Cleaver. Can you really see Sarah in that role? It would set back the womans rights movement a hundred years! :-)

Factodefacto

September 28th, 2009
2:02 pm

If anyone approved of the way 1) Obama apologized for this nation being a great nation and a superpower, or 2) approved of the way that hater Ahmadinejad spoke, then I can see why he or she is still in love with the UN, especially being on this soil. But, nothing is surprising these days from the left………

We’ve got Obama running around on our tax dollars lobbying for the Olympics in Chicago (and someone telling news stations up there to not air reports about those against said Olympics coming there). We’ve got Venezuela in cahoots with Russia for nukes. We’ve got record consecutive months of troop deaths in Afghanistan, and the Obama administration has only spoken to the commander once in 8 months. We’ve got Bill Clinton trotting out the old “vast right-wing conspiracy” cart again for those against Obama and Pelosi’s policies. We’ve got Sen. John Kerry set to release global warming legislation Wednesday along with Sen. Boxer, and Kerry himself said he didn’t even know what “Cap And Trade” meant. We’ve got Democrats out there wanting to raise taxes, even on the middle class via the VAT. Finally, we’ve got the Obama administration and DemoCarecrats who want to put people in JAIL for not buying health insurance – yeah, that same program that Obama said to George Stephanopoulos about it not being a TAX the weekend before last on his Sunday media blitz.

Wake up, America. While we still have one anyway.

By the way, has anyone ever heard a liberal/Dem speak out against Obama continuing to use Bush’s so called illegal wiretapping said left wingers bed wet over during the Bush years?

Oh, and that trillion dollar deficit bill that had to be ramrodded through in a hurry due to the so-called economic crisis (talk to those who are still alive who remember the Great Depression)?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33041366/ns/business-the_new_york_times

Sure am glad all those jobs were saved and unemployment never went above 8% as Biden promised back in March. Go ahead, Dems, raise taxes again and pass Cap & Trade and see what happens next.

Scooter

September 28th, 2009
2:04 pm

Do people actually listen to AM radio any more.

I don’t. I don’t even listen to FM anymore! Radio in the ATL sux.

N.J.

September 28th, 2009
2:05 pm

An idiot speaks again. Lets face it when George Bush started pushing his request for Congressional approval to do something with regard to Iraq, polls indicated that the vast majority of Americans (68 percent) only approved of taking action if there was a United Nation resolution that authorized it.

In fact the most CONSISTENT thing that Americans want from the United Nations is the ability for it to act militarily without the approval of either other countries OR the United States:

Polls have shown that most Americans believe the United Nations should be able to authorize force in a wide range of cases, including defending nations under attack, stopping countries from supporting terrorism, and restoring deposed democratic governments. In a WPO poll from 2007, almost three-quarters of Americans said the UN Security Council has the responsibility to protect people from severe human rights violations, such as genocide, as in Darfur…

…Most Americans therefore encourage reforms that would make the UN more effective. A majority of Americans in recent years, for instance, have favored expanding the UN’s powers to investigate human rights violations, to regulate the international arms trade, and even to select, train, and command its own peacekeeping force.
Not only have Americans wanted the United Nations to be more effective, but they have wanted it to be more legitimate, which would require introducing new voices into the anachronistic body. Seventy percent (PDF) of Americans answering a March 2005 survey by the international polling firm GlobeScan and the Program on International Policy Attitudes said they supported additional countries becoming permanent members of the Security Council, expressing the most support for new German, Japanese, Indian, and Brazilian seats…

…Contrary to popular thought, Americans see the United Nations as a critical pillar of world order. They believe in multilateralism–and they criticize their own government not for cooperating too much, but too little. Their dissatisfaction with the UN reflects not disdain but disappointment that the world body has fallen short of its ideals, and they seek reforms to improve its performance…

http://www.cfr.org/publication/20253/

If we go back over the history of the United States, it has largely been the superpowers which blocked it from acting. Russia before the end of the Cold War and the United States since the end of it.

The United States now is passing the Soviet Union in sheer number of vetoes of United Nation actions since the cold war has ended

Need more:

Americans Strongly Support UN in Principle, Despite Reservations about Performance…

Expansion of UN Powers

Multinational polls conducted by The Chicago Council on Global Affairs and WPO in 2006 and 2007 find that Americans, like much of the rest of the world, favor some dramatic measures to increase UN power. Seventy-five percent of Americans think the United Nations should be able to go into countries to investigate human rights abuses, 72 percent favor a standing UN peacekeeping force, and 60 percent endorse UN regulation of international arms…

Moreover, Americans are comfortable with giving the UN Security Council the right to authorize the use of force to address a variety of international crises. More than four out of five believe that the Security Council should be able to authorize the use of force to “defend a country that has been attacked” (83%) and equal numbers believe it should be allowed to do so to “prevent severe human rights violations such as genocide” (83%). About three out of four say the Security Council should also have this right to “stop a country from supporting terrorist groups” (76%).

…Americans show slightly less support for Security Council authority to use force on nuclear issues: 62 percent believe it should have the right to prevent new countries from acquiring nuclear weapons (33% should not), while 57 percent believe it should have the right to use force to prevent countries from producing nuclear fuel that could be used to produce nuclear weapons (39% should not). Fifty-seven percent also believe that the Security Council should be able to authorize force to restore “a democratic government that has been overthrown,” although 38 percent oppose this…

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brunitedstatescanadara/356.php

As usual conservatives tend to take the pulse of the nation by feeling the soles of its shoes.

Tomhere

September 28th, 2009
2:07 pm

You know that at the bottom of this “take back America” garbage, they are talking about killing people who disagree with them….
Time for THIS liberal to buy a gun.

Dusty

September 28th, 2009
2:08 pm

Oh no!!! A Huckabee hoopla piece by Bookman. He played too much golf this weekend. Musta stayed in the sand pits. Had to stoop low to eviscerate this one from the lowly ranks of Dem propaganda.

(And I just posted a fine piece on the last blog!!! Yes!!! :roll: All that work for nuthin!)

Later……kiddies!!

Matilda

September 28th, 2009
2:08 pm

Scooter, I’m with you on Atlanta radio! Why do people torment themselves when they could pop a CD in the player and cruise on down the road? Atlanta would be a much happier place if people would take their favorite recording artists on the road with them (and hang up their *bleeping* phones!)

Nothing is Free

September 28th, 2009
2:09 pm

After 46 comments about the conference, not a single argument against what the Republicans were actually saying. But we certainly get that none of the liberals on here actually like the Republicans that were at the conference.

The problem with liberals:

It’s simple really. Everyone knows that you don’t like or even hate anyone who disagrees with you.

We get that.

We understand.

We are all very aware of the feelings that liberals have for anyone who disagrees with them.

But the problem for liberals is that no one cares what you think about other people. Your personal problems with accepting the ideas of others does not concern most rational people.

But what others would like to see is if any of you . . . for once . . . give it one shot . . . . give it a try . . . stage any sort of an argument, any sort of debate, any sort of case against what others might believe instead of the continuing drama of why you don’t like another person.

Yes, I know. If you were smart enough to do that, you wouldn’t be liberals, now would you?

Doggone/GA

September 28th, 2009
2:10 pm

“I hate to but in,but you are splitting hairs. Move on”

You’re entitled to your opinion. Luckily, I don’t have to agree with it.

N.J.

September 28th, 2009
2:12 pm

And lets face it, the inability of the United Nations to act is largely a function of how both superpowers restricted its ability to act act independently of either in the wake of WWII.

Need a newer indicator:

Americans Remain Critical of the United Nations
Nevertheless, most want the organization to have a meaningful function

March 13, 2009

PRINCETON, NJ — For the seventh straight year, about 6 in 10 Americans — now 65% — say the United Nations is doing a poor job of solving the problems under its care. Only 26% believe it is doing a good job.

Republicans are more critical of the United Nations than are Democrats; older Americans are more critical than younger adults; and college graduates more so than those with no college education. However, the majority of these groups say the organization is doing a poor job.

Down, but Not Out

Despite the seven-year stretch of negative evaluations of the United Nations, Americans continue to believe the organization should have an important role in world affairs.

Given three options for what kind of function it should have, nearly two-thirds of Americans either say the United Nations should have a leading role in world affairs, in which all countries are required to follow its policies (26%), or say it should have a major role whereby it establishes policies but nations can still act separately when they disagree with it (38%).

Only 31% would narrow the U.N.’s role to nothing more than a forum for communication among countries. This includes 30% saying the United Nations should have a minor role of this kind, and 1% volunteering that the organization should not exist.

Notwithstanding the low esteem in which Americans now hold the United Nations, the international organization maintains its general appeal as an instrument for bringing nations together and even establishing policies for individual countries to follow.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/116812/americans-remain-critical-united-nations.aspx

The rest of the world has almost a more negative opinion of the United Nations than Americans do, because it is seen simply as being another arm of the United States government, doing what America wants most of the time, and fearful of acting in cases when the United States is against such actions.

Matilda

September 28th, 2009
2:13 pm

Tomhere @ 2:07: I also had that revelation, and discovered at the range not long ago that my aim and control are outstanding! (Now if I can just get this crazy temper under control.. .Haha!)

Doggone/GA

September 28th, 2009
2:13 pm

“You know that at the bottom of this “take back America” garbage, they are talking about killing people who disagree with them”

Nooo! Of COURSE they aren’t, what would EVER make you think THAT? And if someone DOES start taking it to that extreme they will be the first to be surprised and they’ll NEVER admit their “rhetoric” led to it. They would NEVER, EVER do THAT. Would they?

Kayaker 71

September 28th, 2009
2:13 pm

Bookman,

“Take it back from whom?”

Our inept Congress, full of incompetent losers who have overstayed their welcome and need to find a real job.

Bozo and his minions who continue to spend our money faster than we make it, especially Eric Holder, Rham Emanuel, most of the cabinet, that Treasury Secretary and the Fed Chairman.

Maxine Waters, the Congressional Black Caucus (wouldn’t they rant if we proposed a Congressional White Caucus…. more race cards that a Vegas poker game), people entrenched in their political soft spot like Dodd, The Butt Pilot, Daniel Inoye (sp), Pelosi, Durbin, Reid, Boxer, Je$$ie Jackson, Jr., that idiot that replaced McKinney…. the list goes on and on, but you get the idea.

Organizations like ACORN who receive our hard earned tax dollars and propose to clients that they open illicit businesses, encourage the importation of underage illegals to act as prostitutes, write off all of this nonsense on their tax returns and the best one….. are you ready?…. do it all on the ACORN dollar. They are an openly liberal organization, campaigning for liberal candidates and they do it, in part, from our tax donations. And you know the most predictable thing about this whole stinking mess?…. nearly no one from Bozo’s crowd even criticized what went on. Charlie Gibson even said that he was not aware of what was happening, even though it is his business to know.

The main stream media who never met a liberal or a liberal policy that they didn’t like.

Blind racial loyalty, really pointed at nothing but electing someone like you, not matter what they stand for, how their policies will affect the average American or what it will cost. He is black, therefore he must be OK.

This will do for starters, Bookman. There are a lot more.

david wayne osedach

September 28th, 2009
2:15 pm

These clowns are looking for publicity in the same shameless way Pamela Anderson let’s her clothes (accidentally) fall off!

Nothing is Free

September 28th, 2009
2:15 pm

Tomhere

**Time for THIS liberal to buy a gun.**

That’s what we need. Another clueless liberal, rushing out to buy another hand gun. Be sure to buy the biggest and baddest gun there is. It does actually work a lot like ExTense. (Almost as well and big chrome rims and a few tattoos)

Have fun. And don’t worry. What could go wrong?

N.J.

September 28th, 2009
2:17 pm

In the 23 largest countries in the world, the a large majority of those polled believe that the United Nations should have the power to over ride the veto of ANY one of the permanent members of the Security Council.

Most interesting, a rather decent majority of Americans believe that the U.S. Veto should be able to be overridden:

In all countries but two, more people favor than oppose the idea of giving the U.N. Security Council the power to override the veto of a permanent member. Respondents were asked about the right, held by each of the five permanent Security Council members, to block any resolution with a veto, and were told: “Some people have proposed that this should be changed so that if a decision was supported by all the other members, no one member could veto the decision.” Respondents in the United States, Britain, France, Russia, and China were reminded in the question that their own country would lose the veto: for instance, Americans heard that “if a decision was supported by all the other members, no one member, not even the United States, could veto the decision.”

In the United States, 57 percent favor giving up the absolute veto (34% opposed),

Britain is similar at 56 percent (35% opposed) and in China, a 48 percent plurality is in favor (36% opposed).

Overall, citizens in 21 countries favor ending the absolute veto (16 majorities, 5 pluralities), with an average of 58 percent in favor and just 24 percent opposed. However, two permanent members are divided: France and Russia (France, 44% in favor, 43% opposed; Russia, 25% in favor, 29% opposed, with 46% not answering).

So conservatives have are on the wrong side of American public opinion as well. A good majority of Americans want the United Nations to be able to override the American veto.

Dusty

September 28th, 2009
2:18 pm

Oh golly gee!! My Palin piece was so good it got repeated with Huckabee. Shall I try it with Bolton or Ophra or RedNeck or Hillary? We need a little more vairety here.

N.J.

September 28th, 2009
2:19 pm

And that poll was from:

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/btunitednationsra/72.php?nid=&id=&pnt=72&lb=btun

Huckabee is playing to the Republican base, which assures that in 2010 and 2012, Republicans will be on the wrong side of public opinion. Again.

Scooter

September 28th, 2009
2:22 pm

Matilda

September 28th, 2009
2:08 pm

My old truck still has the factory cassette player in it but I still put it to good use! :smile:

N.J.

September 28th, 2009
2:24 pm

Lets see some European versions of Bookman’s blog with regard to the United Nations:

“The UN is an American puppet. Disband it!”

“The UN may appear ineffective but it remains a potential instrument for establishing a global tyranny. The USA and the UK must withdraw”

“I heard recently that the New York Police Department has a budget several times larger than that of the entire UN put together. That just about sums up the attitude of the US and the dominating members of the UN and how much priority it is given. ”

“United Nations provide the opportunity to all the democratic, autocratic, civilian, military, good and bad leaders to grab an opportunity to shake hand with the god (USA president). ”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/911171.stm

Need I give more quotes?

Nothing is Free

September 28th, 2009
2:24 pm

Dusty

Jay Leno’s audience cheered for Rush Limbaugh last week when he appeared on the show. Palin is smart. She is able to weld incredible power from a facebook site. She will reappear and when she does, this overt liberal bias will look absolutely idiotic except to people like the liberals that visit here.

The far left will always hate her. They should. She is much more popular than any of them.

F. Sinkwich

September 28th, 2009
2:27 pm

You’re on a roll, Kayacker 71!

I’d be more specific about congress by targeting its leaders: Pelosi and Reid. These two are responsible ramming that awful “Stimulus” bill through the process earlier this year. Pathetic.

Great list, though.

pat

September 28th, 2009
2:28 pm

The UN is an irrelevant, anti-Semitic piece of crap and needs to be either dissolved or moved to and nice peaceful place like Saudi Arabia. It’s a waste of time and money. I am sick of tyrannical maniacs like Ahmendathingy and Chavez stepping foot on American soil only to rail America. That land can be used for a nice sports stadium or concert hall.

And what in the HELL is the President of the United States doing in Denmark trying to lobby for the Olympics? Seriously, there’s nothing more important happening? How green is flying a 747 and accompanying jet fighters across the ocean for something as stupid as that? Send an ambassador, that’s their job, not the president’s. I wonder who in Chicago he owes a favor to now? Sounds fishy to me.

N.J.

September 28th, 2009
2:30 pm

Well at least Obama actually has had some experience organizing something. A claim few Republican politicians can lay claim to.

My favorite anti- government Republican is Phil Gramm. A man who never lived off the government teat. Born in an Army hospital, went to college on the Army death benefits, became a professor at a public university and then ran for office.

N.J.

September 28th, 2009
2:31 pm

To sum it up, the world hates the United Nations because it kisses the U.S.’s ass too often, and American Republicans hate it because it doesn’t kiss the U.S.’s ass enough.

mm

September 28th, 2009
2:33 pm

Factodefact,

One problem. There are no facts in your post. Just more rightwing nonsense.

Kayaker 71

September 28th, 2009
2:35 pm

Bookman,

A few more.

The 42 or so million of those Americans who pay no federal income tax and feel that it OK to let others pay for their own security and well being.

The increasing latino influence in this country through importation of illegals who are allowed to stay here and suck our system dry. Case in point, California, the largest illegal immigrant population in this country and 16B in the hole. Not a single politician will touch this hot potato.

Our elected officials who pander to the above for votes at every election. Case in point, the Cuban vote in Florida where no sitting president has every been elected minus the Florida vote.

The American Labor Unions who insist on a wage from their employers sufficient to bankrupt many businesses, yet do it all in the name of “fairness”.

The welfare population who, along with other government programs (many which do not work but cost a fortune) continue to represent wasted tax dollars, inept management and a bleak future.

Faulty government regulation of our financial institutions, allowing the recent “worst economic downturn since the Depression”. Someone not doing their job but always blaming it on the other guy, regardless of party affiliation.

That will do it for now. And you ask “From Whom?”

N.J.

September 28th, 2009
2:37 pm

And as usual, this is another thing that Republicans of Huckabee’s ilk have in common with Islamic fundamentalists as well. They hate the United Nations:

Bin Laden rails against Crusaders and UN

Osama Bin Laden’s latest challenge to the West and rallying cry to the Muslim world was broadcast on Al-Jazeera satellite television channel on Saturday 3 November. The date and location of the recording was not given. The following is the text as broadcast:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/monitoring/media_reports/1636782.stm

Mullah Omar Brands United Nations a Tool of the West (http://www.dawn.com/2001/04/11/top11.htm)
The DAWN Group of Newspapers of India presents “Mullah Omar Brands United Nations a Tool of the West,” an article that originally appeared in the April 11, 2001 issue of “DAWN.” The article describes the International Deoband conference near Peshawar, Pakistan. The conference featured messages from Afghan Muslim cleric and Taliban religious leader Mullah Muhammed Omar, Libyan revolutionary leader Muammar Qadhafi, and Saudi Arabian exile and suspected terrorist Osama Bin Laden.

http://www.loc.gov/rr/international/hispanic/terrorism/binladen.html

The speeches of Islamic terrorists railing against the United Nations as a puppet organ of the United States are legion.

Bosch

September 28th, 2009
2:40 pm

Another hat tip to Mrs. G. –

“She is able to weld incredible power from a facebook site”

There’s your sign!!!

Mrs. Godzilla

September 28th, 2009
2:40 pm

Hey Bosch!

How ya’ doing?

Taxpayer

September 28th, 2009
2:41 pm

She [Palin] is much more popular than any of them.

Well, that certainly explains why she lost. :roll:

Scooter

September 28th, 2009
2:43 pm

Doggone/GA

September 28th, 2009
2:10 pm

I normally find your post interesting and with merit.It just seemed as if you were beating a dead horse with Peadawg.No offence intended!

Bosch

September 28th, 2009
2:44 pm

Hey Mrs. G.,

Doing well thanks – I love your “there’s your sign” thing. Sometimes that’s really all you need, ain’t that right?

I was out of town last week doing secret stuff. I’ll fill you in at the next O of O meeting.

N.J.

September 28th, 2009
2:44 pm

Of course the 42 million Americans who pay no income taxes should expect SOME profit from those who borrow their PAYROLL taxes to pay for things that those who pay income taxes but not much in payroll taxes want.

And the argument that businesses pay the part of the payroll taxes just does not wash. Social Security and Medicare are simply part of the wages of workers which would otherwise have to be paid in cash money rather than in the much lower rates that deferred benefits are paid at.

Same thing goes with health insurance. These benefits are not free. They are money which would otherwise have to be given as WAGES and of course market forces would force wages higher if these benefits did not exist. On the average salary, an employer saves about 28 percent of labor expenses by giving tax exempt benefits rather than wages. No one benefits more from benefits than large employers. The 14,000 dollar average cost of providing health insurance would be made up by having to shell out 20,000 in salary in to maintain the same market balance.

TnGelding

September 28th, 2009
2:44 pm

He probably shot to the top in the polls.

Kamchak

September 28th, 2009
2:49 pm

Palin is smart.

How much intelligence does it take to cut and run?

Chris Lacks

September 28th, 2009
2:49 pm

I love Huckabee, I sure hope he is our nominee.

Chris Lacks

September 28th, 2009
2:49 pm

Enter your comments here

Doggone/GA

September 28th, 2009
2:50 pm

“I normally find your post interesting and with merit.It just seemed as if you were beating a dead horse with Peadawg.No offence intended!”

Well, maybe I am a bit…but I’m trying to understand…I really AM…the mindset of someone who would find a politician worthy of being elected VP based on how they LOOK! That just gets so far beyond my comprehension that I don’t see how it can be.

Personally, I had no opinion of her at all. Never heard of her, didn’t even know she was a Governor…but when she opened her mouth (here I agree with Peadawg) THEN I did have an opinion…a not a good one.

But I’m just (and still) flabbergasted that ANYONE could say they LIKE her as a VP candidate until she opened her mouth. I mean really, is it coming to that? That we should just have a beauty contest for the second most powerful political position in the land…only leave out the speaking part?

All I can do is shake my head, I guess.

jconservative

September 28th, 2009
2:52 pm

“…the “How to Take Back America” conference, a phrase that always raises a question: “Take it back from whom?”

Are you kidding? Take it back from the liberals in government like Reagan, Bush 41, Clinton, Bush 43 & Obama. Do you folks have any idea how much liberal legislation those 5 presidents signed in their administrations?

But, you guys reelected 4 of the 5. So nobody to blame but yourselves.

Mrs. Godzilla

September 28th, 2009
2:52 pm

Bosch,

at this weeks meeting we’re all being vacinated against palintaitz.

Taxpayer

September 28th, 2009
2:55 pm

The Tennessean reports that “Hoagland, 36, is one of the hundreds of thousands of Americans — insured and uninsured — facing collection suits, wage garnishments and, more rarely, trips to jail because of medical debt.”

Debtor’s prison! So that is what the Republicans are all up in arms about. They want to bring back part of what we left England centuries ago for. Republicans are a very weird lot. What next. Will they resurrect Salem’s Lot. The blood suckers.

danjonglee

September 28th, 2009
2:56 pm

At least Chicago is front runner for the named the host city for the Olympics. Im glad we have our priorities straight… (met with General in Afganistan 1 time 70 days)

Bosch

September 28th, 2009
2:58 pm

Mrs. G.,

Oh good, I’ll remember to wear short sleeves. That will be a nice segway into my presentation on the secret stuff I’ve been working on.

Peadawg

September 28th, 2009
2:58 pm

“but I’m trying to understand…I really AM…the mindset of someone who would find a politician worthy of being elected VP based on how they LOOK!”

There you go again putting words in my mouth. Geeze. I never said she was worthy. STOP TAKING MY WORDS AND TURNING INTO WHAT YOU WANT THEM BE.

Scooter

September 28th, 2009
2:58 pm

Palin is the hottest looking politician the USA has ever seen! I don’t care what Taxpayer,Bosch and Doggone says. :wink:

N.J.

September 28th, 2009
2:59 pm

Huckabee and Republicans need a new issue for their American minority. Social Issues like Abortion and Gay Marriage are off the radar screen at 3 percent when Americans are asked the most critical issues facing the nation by polls of all Americans, while it is only important to that ever shrinking group of social conservatives. 47 percent of conservatives rate it social issues as most important while, only 3 percent of all Americans now think these things of any consequence at all:

BS News/New York Times Poll. Sept. 19-23, 2009. N=1,042 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.

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“What do you think is the most important problem facing the country today?” Open-ended

Economy and jobs

41%

Health care
19%

Budget deficit/National debt
3%

Moral values/Family values
3%

War/Peace (general)
2%

Iraq
2%

The President/Barack Obama
2%

Other
24%

Unsure
4%

http://www.pollingreport.com/prioriti.htm

Lets see how Huckabee compares to OBAMA for the 2012 election:

Election 2012

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Clarus Research Group. Aug. 14-18, 2009. Registered voters nationwide.

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“If the next presidential election were held today, and the two candidates were Democrat Barack Obama and Republican [see below], for whom would you vote?

Obama 48%

Huckabee 38%

Unsure 15%

http://www.pollingreport.com/2012.htm

Huckabee and Mitt Romney are the best Republicans have to offer, both at 38 percent against Obama’s 9-10 point lead.

Obama leads Palin by 19 points in the same polls, and leads Gingrich by 18 points.

stands for decibels

September 28th, 2009
3:00 pm

DGA–In Peadawg’s defense (how often are you going to see me write that?) I think he meant something along the lines of “she looked good on paper.”

Meaning in this case she was hyped as an un-knockable, recently-elected female governor. It took most everyone by surprise and it dominated the news cycle positively for McCain for the better part of a week.

But sooner or later she had to be expected to speak without a script, and things did not go well for her, as we all know.

Did I get that more or less right, PeaDawg?

Dusty

September 28th, 2009
3:00 pm

Well, this afternoon is going so well. I’ll just make a few personal suggestions and inquiries.. Let’s see:

NOTHING IS FREE–right! Palin is smart. No dummy could sit in Alaska enjoying the view of Russia and stir up Democrats like Katrina hitting New Orleans. Poor old Dems! Not only are they slow, they are about as pretty as a mud fence! And they never knew what hit them!! They can’t get over it.

N. J.–Make it SHORT, honey. We haven’t got all day to read claptrap.

RED NECK –You are no longer my Presss Agent. Fired! You drink “KoolAid” undercover.

PAT–The President has flown to Denmark to help them get the Olympics?? I thought he was going to help that poor girl with the baby who had a drop by “tourist” whose name she could not remember.. Our president is so compassionate. Always willing to help whether it takes all us taxpayers to pay for it or just go broke. Poor little Denmark I bet the President will give them several millions of $$$ to get things going. So generous!!!!

Question: Where are josef and angry Black Man? I miss them. Come back! Come back wherever you are!!

Mrs. Godzilla

September 28th, 2009
3:01 pm

N.J.

September 28th, 2009
3:02 pm

My favorite Republican shill lately has been Chuck Norris. I wouldnt trust Chuck to do an appendectomy on me. I am only slightly less thrilled with his ideas on health reform. A flying drop kick just goes so far when fighting swine flu.

Peadawg

September 28th, 2009
3:04 pm

stands for decibels, ya the pretty much sums it up.

Doggone, YOU LIE if you say I said she’s qualified because of her looks(sorry..had to do it)

Taxpayer

September 28th, 2009
3:04 pm

So, all you have to do to get Kayaker’s vote is to promise to pass legislation to defund ACORN. Wow. I don’t know. That could be a tough one. It could take years and I just don’t see any bi-partisan effort ever. :roll:

N.J.

September 28th, 2009
3:05 pm

Facts take time, and the ability to read them.

Fact remains that a huge majority of Americans are not thrilled with the United Nations, but less so with the United States hamstringing of the organization with its veto. When almost 60 percent of Americans want the U.N. to be able to OVERRIDE the United States veto, the Republicans again, are on the wrong side of the public sentiment.

Normal

September 28th, 2009
3:05 pm

Scooter

September 28th, 2009
2:58 pm
Palin is the hottest looking politician the USA has ever seen! I don’t care what Taxpayer,Bosch and Doggone says.

SCOOTER, if she had worn a little red, white and blue bikini…Ya know? :D

Doggone/GA

September 28th, 2009
3:06 pm

“Did I get that more or less right, PeaDawg?”

I think you probably did…but it’s still incomprehensible to me that someone “who looked good on paper” could even be considered by a voter before they even heard (or even read) what that person’s positions and proposed policies are.

I guess all I can say NOW is give it up. It can’t be explained in a way that makes sense to ME…no matter how much “sense” it makes to anyone else.