Secret Iranian nuke facility revealed; showdown may loom
President Barack Obama, flanked by French President Nicolas Sarkozy and British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, warn of a push for stern new sanctions against Iran after discovery of a secret nuclear research facility. (AP photo)
VIENNA – Iran has revealed the existence of a secret uranium-enrichment plant, the International Atomic Energy Agency said Friday, a development that could heighten fears about Tehran’s ability to produce a nuclear weapon and escalate its diplomatic confrontation with the West.
President Barack Obama and the leaders of France and Britain demanded Friday that Iran fully disclose its nuclear ambitions “or be held accountable” to an impatient world community. They threatened new sanctions after the disclosure of a secret Iranian nuclear facility.
“Iran is breaking rules that all nations must follows,” Obama said in the opening moments of the G-20 economic summit….
Two officials told the AP that Iran revealed the existence of the second plant in a letter sent Monday to International Atomic Energy Agency chief Mohamed ElBaradei.
IAEA spokesman Marc Vidricaire confirmed receipt of the letter, saying the agency was informed “that a new pilot fuel enrichment plant is under construction.” The letter said that the plant would not enrich uranium beyond the 5 percent level suitable for civilian energy production. That would be substantially below the threshold of 90 percent or more needed for a weapon.”
Iranian leaders reportedly revealed existence of the plant only after learning that Western intelligence was onto them. The discovery of such blatant cheating by Iran may force countries such as Russia and China to finally show their hand regarding sanctions against Iran. And given the Iranian government’s precarious grip on power, the power of those sanctions to force change may never be greater.
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I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator :-) You Whine :-(
September 25th, 2009
12:49 pm
They want enough bombs to blow us up too.
Like Obozo will have the courage to stop them.
mike
September 25th, 2009
12:50 pm
George American –
Your pathetic “parody” is beyond lame. Just be more forthright and say “I hate Republicans and I see them through the lens of ignorant stereotypes.”
If that is not enough to satisfy your need to flap your gums, you could also say, “I am incapable of articulating any thoughts beyond my mindless partisan beliefs that those who don’t share my narrow-minded views is a bad person.”
You can even shout in in bold-faced caps since your need for attention is only matched by you inability to voice any meaningful thoughts.
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
12:52 pm
ewwww. Dudley wants his face blown off. That’s gross. I hope you have a good health insurance policy.
Question
September 25th, 2009
12:53 pm
Why even have a blog on this?
We know the outcome which is the same as our policy/position with North Korea — “Okay, we’ll let it go this time, but don’t let it happen again. And, BTW, can we offer anything so you don’t do it again?”…
USinUK
September 25th, 2009
12:54 pm
Taxpayer …
“I hear the FDIC is broke”
you do realize that the reason the FDIC is broke is because the Republican congress prohibited it from enforcing insurance premium collections from the banks …
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2009/03/11/now_needy_fdic_collected_little_in_premiums/
Wyld Byll Hyltnyr
September 25th, 2009
12:55 pm
stands for decibels
September 25th, 2009
12:37 pm
Not only are you mentally, the liberal and gay communities that would use something like that for their release are truly sick. Just thinking of you people makes me want to shower in antiseptic.
Dudley Doright
September 25th, 2009
12:55 pm
Public Option’s Doing Swell
BAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Nothing like using a liberal rag like the NYT to help me make my point. For those of you who care to read on, the beginning of the article reads:
“Consider the plight of John E. Potter, the chief executive of the second-largest employer in America. On the one hand, he has a guaranteed monopoly for much of his business. On the other hand, monopoly or not, the combination of the Internet and the recession is absolutely crushing his company, just as it is for so many other companies across the country. His last quarter’s results, which were announced on Wednesday, revealed a loss of $2.4 billion. The business is on track to lose a staggering $7 billion in 2009, on around $68 billion in revenue. That’s practically General Motors territory.
What can he do to fix the situation? Surprisingly little. His employees have clauses in their union contracts that forbid layoffs. Nor can he renegotiate their gold-plated benefits, the way, say, the auto companies did when their backs were against the wall.”
Notice the key words like “monopoly” and “union contracts that forbid layoffs”. In other words, the Government cannot even run a profitable MONOPOLY.
Thanks, Public, I appreciate the support.
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
12:55 pm
We know the outcome which is the same as our policy/position with North Korea — “Okay, we’ll let it go this time, but don’t let it happen again. And, BTW, can we offer anything so you don’t do it again?”…
That is to appease all the Republicans that wanted Obama to stick with the Bush plan. It is just for show though. The real work is going on behind the scenes because otherwise the Republicans might start wee weeing on themselves again, like Dave R did earlier.
USinUK
September 25th, 2009
12:55 pm
it’s time … time for food and the train home … later taters!!!
Mrs. Godzilla
September 25th, 2009
12:55 pm
well Say What
when I travel abroad, I can be proud we are a nation that does not torture.
The credit card companies can’t play some of their little games with me any more.
My best friend got a great new small business loan.
Kids in the neighborhood have access to SCHIP.
My unemployed brother in law father of three will get his unemployment
extended.
My gay cousin is protected from hate crimes.
Being a lover of the arts the increase in NEA funding really turns me on!
I’m crazy about space exploration and its scientific benefit to the world.
The expanded Americorps would be a great opportunity for my nephew as he graduates from college.
Poor folks I know will have help winterizing their homes this year.
Investment in alternative energy will turn my 32 mpg car
obsolete in a few years.
I have to admit I’d take the rebate for a hybrid plug in if still available when old Tony Toyota passes!
Hopefully I’ll get the opportunity to ride high speed rail.
I’m proud that the President has Dems and Reps in his cabinet.
Stem cell research might cure my nieces lupus.
But that’s just today….check for more next week.
mike
September 25th, 2009
12:56 pm
Public Option –
“Glad to school you”
LOL. Name calling and posting a link while distoting the contents of the article is schooling?
If this is your idea of schooling, no wonder you are incapable of reading. Despite your silly summary blaming Republicans (what else is new?), the article states quite clearly what the Post Office’s problems are:
“On the other hand, monopoly or not, the combination of the Internet and the recession is absolutely crushing his company, just as it is for so many other companies across the country.”
Hmm, I guess Republicans are responsible for the internet?
The article makes no reference to Republicans at all.
I guess you have confused “schooling” with “lying”.
Public Option's Doing Swell
September 25th, 2009
12:56 pm
New York Times/CBS News poll TODAY 9/25/09
The poll suggests that Mr. Obama is in a decidedly more commanding position than Republicans on this issue as Congressional negotiations move into their final stages. Most Americans trust Mr. Obama more than Republicans to make the right decisions on the issue; 76 percent said Republicans had not even laid out a clear health care plan.
And by a lopsided margin, respondents said that Mr. Obama and not Republicans had made an effort to cross party lines and strike a deal that has the support of both parties.
At 56 percent, Mr. Obama’s job approval rating is about par for a president at this point in a first term: Reagan had a 53 percent job approval rating, while Bill Clinton was at 43 percent.
And Americans think the economy is on the mend, while there has been a 15 point increase to 36 percent in the percentage of Americans who said Mr. Obama’s stimulus package has improved the economy.
Just 30 percent said they had a favorable view of Republicans in Congress. By contrast, 47 percent said they had a favorable view of Congressional Democrats.
The poll of 1,042 adults was conducted by telephone from Saturday through Wednesday. It has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
Cutty
September 25th, 2009
12:57 pm
******Watch Saxby run from the cameras as he enters his lobbyist-sponsored ‘fundraiser’ tonight on ABC @ 7.************
Where is Bo when you need him?
mike
September 25th, 2009
12:57 pm
Dudley –
There were so many angles to pick apart Public Options stupid comments on the Post Office. The guy is so pathetic.
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
12:57 pm
USinUK
September 25th, 2009
12:54 pm
Taxpayer …
“I hear the FDIC is broke”
you do realize that the reason the FDIC is broke is because the Republican congress prohibited it from enforcing insurance premium collections from the banks …
SHHHHHH! THE REPUBLICANS ARE TRYING TO KEEP THEIR SCREWUPS TO THEMSELVES. DON’T TELL ANYONE. THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, WORD WILL LEAK OUT ABOUT OTHER STUFF THAT THEY DID. DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THE DEFUND ACORN BILL, FOR EXAMPLE. SHHHH. KEEP IT QUIET.
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator :-) You Whine :-(
September 25th, 2009
12:58 pm
From da udder blog-
Jay
September 25th, 2009
8:53 am
Meanwhile, the temperature continues its inexorable rise.
bookman, it’s called the thermostat, it would be located somewhere on the wall of your house in a central location, find it and turn it down.
duh.
Either that or come outside where it HAS GOTTEN COLDER!
AmVet
September 25th, 2009
12:58 pm
Say What, that’s pretty funny.
Which for a rightie is fairly noteworthy in and of itself. Seriously.
But your analogy is somewhat faulty as perhaps the greatest American socialist of them all was…………………wait for it………………… George W. Bush.
Who used socialism to bail out capitalism last September.
Less than Curious George along with McCain, Clinton, Obama et al engaged in the single biggest act of socialism in US history. Far bigger even than FDR’s policies between the Great Depression and World War II.
The “bailout” of the gangster capitalists and white collar criminals on Wall Street, including we the people’s government back-stopping money market funds, and buying stock in criminally mismanaged banks to keep them afloat, is the very definition of socialism: The state owning the means of production and exchange.
That BHO has continued Marxist George’s policies is something I predicted…
Dudley Doright
September 25th, 2009
12:59 pm
Taxpayer. You said “ewwww. Dudley wants his face blown off.” What in the world are you referring to. Are you that ignorant?
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
1:01 pm
I hope someone remembers to ask Saxby why he was trying to divert blame on that poor guy at Imperial Sugar. The findings are in, Saxby is an evil puppet for the sugar industry and anyone else with a buck.
mike
September 25th, 2009
1:01 pm
Public Option’s Doing Swell –
Nice cherry picking of the poll. At least you aren’t just making stuff up, so you are making progress.
Here are some points you neglected:
The poll found that an intense campaign by Mr. Obama to rally support behind his health care plan — including an address to Congress, a run of television interviews and rallies across the country — appears to have done little to allay concerns.
Majorities of respondents said that they were confused about the health care argument and that Mr. Obama had not done a good job in explaining what he was trying to accomplish.
The percentage of people who approve of the way he has dealt with Afghanistan has dropped to 44 percent from 56 percent in April. The percentage of Americans who approve of his handling of the economy, at 50 percent, has dropped from 61 percent since April. In April, Mr. Obama had a 43-point advantage over Republicans in terms of who would make the right decisions on the economy; that has dropped to a 26-point advantage.
56 percent of respondents said they did not expect Mr. Obama to be able to keep his promise not to raise taxes on households making less than $250,000.
The poll suggested that Mr. Obama’s effort to deal with concerns about the health plan has enjoyed, at best, mixed success. In the poll, 55 percent said Mr. Obama had not clearly explained his plans for changing the health care system, and 59 percent said they thought the health care changes under consideration in Congress were confusing.
The fact that so many Americans say they do not know enough about the plan to offer an opinion — 46 percent — shows the risk of the White House’s strategy of not putting forward its own specific bill.
Say What??
September 25th, 2009
1:02 pm
Nice try, AmVet. You almost sounded coherent.
Personally, I was against the bailout initiated by Bush, but that’s water under the bridge.
Don’t lose site of the fact that, while Bush was running up a $1 trillion debt, Obama has now risen it exponentially. I believe the last estimate I heard for the year 2011 was $9 trillion. I heard other numbers closer to $11 trillion, but that didn’t include Obamacare, which will take 17% or our economy and put it under govt control.
That may be tough for you to grasp, but the truth hurts. Unless, of course, you’ve taken you daily pill and drank the koolaid.
mike
September 25th, 2009
1:02 pm
Dudley -
“Are you that ignorant?”
Oh god yes. You will learn pretty quickly to just ignore Taxpayer. He is among the least intelligent people that visit this blog.
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
1:03 pm
Dudley, you said you wanted to go hunting with Cheney and Cheney aims high with that shotgun. I just thought that you knew what you were getting yourself into but if I saved you from harm, then no thanks are needed. You are welcome.
Public Option's Doing Swell
September 25th, 2009
1:03 pm
@ “MIke”
No one from my camp is calling you a name Mike. I’m referring to your party in the same way that all your Congress bozos call the Democratic party the Democrat party to denigrate your Congress.
If you check, I’m not calling a commenter any names, at least until they start flinging fecal material first.
Concentrate on the issues. Picking on the post office or Medicare for insolvency is patently stupid when insolvency can be directly laid at the feet of Republicans. And although Senate Finance will have little say in the final health care bill, and everyone forgets that–the floor and conference will be much more important as will the House, they already votged down one attempt to fix Medicare’s solvency and plug the donut hole because they were going to bat for their johns the insurance company. Senate Finance is the Republican and Blue Dog controlled committee in the Senate that usually deals with tax matters over there.
The article makes no reference to Repubozos at all, but later if I have time when I’m through with work, I will show you that the Repubozos set up the current postal corporation. I don’t rely NYT articles to do everything for me. And surely you’re not so ignorant as to think Congress doesn’t make law and oversee the Post Office. Did you think it was Hezbollah who organizes it and makes its laws perhaps?
I said schooling and I meant it. As usual, I can support my claims and you ramble like an ignorant child.
Gotta go Mike. Keep the unemployed fires burning. We’re trying to get health care for ya.
Rant
September 25th, 2009
1:03 pm
The best response is to give Israel the green light, i.e., release the hounds!!!
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
1:04 pm
mike needs are warm embrace, don’t you mike. How much have you had today. Now come here and get that hug you sweet thang.
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator :-) You Whine :-(
September 25th, 2009
1:04 pm
“Iran is breaking rules that all nations must follows,” Obozo said 9/25/09
“No nation can or should try to dominate another nation,” Obozo intoned. “No world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another will succeed. No balance of power among nations will hold.”-9/23/09
blah, blah, blah.
Turd Ferguson
September 25th, 2009
1:05 pm
Its time to bring in the Israelees and let them take out these nuclear facilities. Hopefully the US will flyover and drop a few bombs also.
Wyld Byll Hyltnyr
September 25th, 2009
1:05 pm
Mrs. Godzilla
September 25th, 2009
12:55 pm
Are you also proud of a deficit trend that has gone vertical and will choke the world’s greatest nation to death, and the administration that can’t seem to get the number right
Are you proud of an administration that promised transparency, yet rams through deficit engorging legislation before it is even read
Are you proud of the way we sawed of the limb behind our allies, the Poles and Czechs
Are you proud of the way that a western democracy, a longtime ally, in Yisrael was thrown under the bus in favor of a bunch of uncivilized animals
Are you proud of the way that the administration plumped the pork for a group like ACORN that regularly engages in voter fraud and would help someone enslave minors and set up a whorehouse in your neighborhood
Are you proud of a cabinet level appointment who believes the government brought down the towers on 09/11, or the ones that never go their taxes right
Are you proud of an administration that lionizes a man who left a preganant, young girl to drown in a sunken car.
It seems that your list, when taken against the totality of the obama-nation, is much like arranging the deck chairs on the titanic.
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
1:05 pm
mike
September 25th, 2009
1:02 pm
Dudley -
“Are you that ignorant?”
Oh god yes. You will learn pretty quickly to just ignore Taxpayer. He is among the least intelligent people that visit this blog.
Isn’t that sweet. mike loves me. Don’t you mike. You can admit it. You’re amongst friends here. Anonymous friends. You sweet little thang.
Turd Ferguson
September 25th, 2009
1:07 pm
Multi-lateralism is never a good thing as in too many cooks spoil the soup as in “we are all on the same team”. All this is BS and HS propogated by the panty waists Carter, Clinton and now Obobo.
Mrs. Godzilla
September 25th, 2009
1:08 pm
Oh Byll!!
I’m proud my outlook is diametrically opposed to yours.
Mrs. Godzilla
September 25th, 2009
1:09 pm
Oh Byll….
Rearranging the deck chairs is a democratic luntzism…try and get your own.
AmVet
September 25th, 2009
1:09 pm
Say What, shucking and grinning for BushCo is one thing, and seen here every day of the week.
But to mangle the numbers like that takes true talent!
On the day President Bush took office, the national debt stood at $5.727 trillion.
The day he left office?
$9.849 trillion.
A 71.9 percent increase by your fiscal conservative, I mean corporatist….
No wonder coherency is hard for you to get a grasp on…
Just like the “leaders” in the GOP
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
1:11 pm
That’s OK, Mrs. G at 1:08. Byll has mike and Dave R and others that are not opposed. I see them going places.
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
1:14 pm
AmVet,
these conservative Republican children can’t even read. Much less understand. I prefer to offer them hugs and words of encouragement just to let them know that we’re here to see that their basic needs are taken care of, except an education. After all, there is a limit to what we can do for them.
Wyld Byll Hyltnyr
September 25th, 2009
1:17 pm
Somehow, from my beach front hot tub outside Fortaleza, watching dolphins breach, people paddle boarding, and a 30 year old b list actress (she once spoke to Charlie on 2 1/2 men) performing yoga exercises a few feet away, I’m rather glad that my outlook has been different than yours.
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
1:18 pm
You know, a good stunt to pull on old Wyld Byll right now would be to dip his hand in some warm water. hehehe
Wyld Byll Hyltnyr
September 25th, 2009
1:20 pm
Hardly, Ol’ Wyld Byll’s a fixin’ to dip another part into something warm in a minute or two.
Mrs. Godzilla
September 25th, 2009
1:21 pm
Byll
Not bad.
The view from my backyard hot tub includes two silly dogs running in the yard, our Mimi in her wheelchair on the deck, the neighborkids
playing ball and Mr G coming down the steps with an icey cold beverage.
I’m happy with that.
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
1:21 pm
Then again, someone better throw a pitcher of cold water on him before he blows a gasket.
Turd Ferguson
September 25th, 2009
1:22 pm
I see the #2 idiot is in town today. Wonder how long it will take before he opens mouth and inserts foot?
Mrs. Godzilla
September 25th, 2009
1:22 pm
Byll
Make Sure little Byll and the twins are protected!
That new HIV vaccine is only 30 something percent effective.
Say What??
September 25th, 2009
1:22 pm
AmVet, I no longer need to match wits with you. You’ve done yourself in. You’ve quoted a CBS news report. Hahahahahaha. I’ll bet they have some great stories from Dan Rather about Bush and the National Guard as well, don’t they?
I know you don’t like to be hit with facts, but here goes:
Money quote:
The public national debt – $5.8 trillion as of 2008 – is projected to double by 2012 and nearly triple by 2019. Thus, America would accumulate more government debt under President Obama than under every President in American history from George Washington to George W. Bush combined.
You liberals, er, uh, I mean socialists never cease to amaze me. Thanks again for the laugh.
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
1:22 pm
I think someone here has been reading a short story. “Beaches in heat.”
Turd Ferguson
September 25th, 2009
1:23 pm
We wont know the Iranians have a nuclear bomb until after they have it. Best to ere on the side of caution and lauch a strike force, along with Israel, and take out this menace.
Wyld Byll Hyltnyr
September 25th, 2009
1:24 pm
There is nothing little on Ol’ Byll.
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
1:25 pm
I see our VP has heard the pleas from the Georgia Republicans and has come down here to offer federal aid to all those truly in need. All they had to do is ask. Just ask. That is all it takes.
Mrs. Godzilla
September 25th, 2009
1:26 pm
Byll
Then stay out of the pool…..don’t wanna scare the yoga babe.
Say What??
September 25th, 2009
1:27 pm
Taxpayer, you keep talking about giving out hugs. Creeeeeepy. Perhaps you’re just a collaborator.
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
1:27 pm
Iran poses more of a threat to countries that they neighbor. They are no real threat to the US. Perhaps China and Russia and Saudi Arabia, etc., should start re-thinking their strategies.
Say What??
September 25th, 2009
1:28 pm
Nice try, Taxpayer. Actually, Georgia was granted federal aid before Biden ever touched down.
mike
September 25th, 2009
1:29 pm
Public Option –
“No one from my camp is calling you a name Mike”
What crap. I am called names as an individual and as a conservative every day. Sorry to tell you this, but Repubozo is a name.
” I’m referring to your party in the same way that all your Congress bozos call the Democratic party the Democrat party to denigrate your Congress. If you check, I’m not calling a commenter any names, at least until they start flinging fecal material first.”
Yeah, because it is so much more admirable to call millions of people names as a group than it is to call an individual a name.
“Concentrate on the issues. Picking on the post office or Medicare for insolvency is patently stupid when insolvency can be directly laid at the feet of Republicans”
You have yet to display any evidence that the Post Office’s insolvency is because of the Republicans. The article that you cite says its primarily due to the Internet.
Where are you getting your “facts”?
.”And although Senate Finance will have little say in the final health care bill, and everyone forgets that–the floor and conference will be much more important as will the House, they already votged down one attempt to fix Medicare’s solvency and plug the donut hole because they were going to bat for their johns the insurance company. Senate Finance is the Republican and Blue Dog controlled committee in the Senate that usually deals with tax matters over there.”
What does that rambling statement have to do with anything that we were discussing.
“The article makes no reference to Repubozos at all, but later if I have time when I’m through with work, I will show you that the Repubozos set up the current postal corporation. I don’t rely NYT articles to do everything for me.”
Look, you make the stupid comment that it is all Republican’s fault and then you post an article that says that is not true at all. I never said that you rely on the NYT, I was just commenting on the article that you cited.
“And surely you’re not so ignorant as to think Congress doesn’t make law and oversee the Post Office. Did you think it was Hezbollah who organizes it and makes its laws perhaps?”
More irrelevant yap-yap. Your own article says the primary problem is the the Post Office got wiped out by the Internet. You shouldn’t need the Times to explain that. Any moderately intelligent person would know that physical mail delivery would take a huge hit with the spread of email.
“I said schooling and I meant it. As usual, I can support my claims and you ramble like an ignorant child.”
You have not supported a single claim that you made in that post at all, so apparently you can’t support your claims. My “ignorant” rambling has got you sputtering like a fool, so it appears to be good enough.
“Gotta go Mike. Keep the unemployed fires burning. We’re trying to get health care for ya.”
LOL. Thanks for the concern. Any other random thoughts in your head that you want to claim as truth?
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
1:29 pm
Say What??
September 25th, 2009
1:27 pm
Taxpayer, you keep talking about giving out hugs. Creeeeeepy. Perhaps you’re just a collaborator
In fact, I am known the world over as the great collaborator. Would you like to collaborate.
AmVet
September 25th, 2009
1:30 pm
“AmVet, I no longer need to match wits with you.”
As long as you know your place.
In remedial math class…
mike
September 25th, 2009
1:31 pm
Apparently Public Option thinks that posting here means you are unemployed. Does that mean that he is unemployed?
Or is this another rule that only applies to people who don’t share his narrow views?
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
1:32 pm
Say What??
September 25th, 2009
1:28 pm
Nice try, Taxpayer. Actually, Georgia was granted federal aid before Biden ever touched down
I know. Perdue called Obama and asked for fed help and Obama said yes and sent Biden to convey that message to Georgia’s republicans that did not trust Obama. All they had to do was ask. tis true.
mike
September 25th, 2009
1:32 pm
Say what –
“Taxpayer, you keep talking about giving out hugs”
That is what the angry liberals do here when they run out of things to say and need to keep flapping their gums. That or they do lame and bigoted parodies of conservatives.
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
1:36 pm
My “ignorant” rambling has got you sputtering like a fool, so it appears to be good enough.
Why that’s just foolish talk. Just plain foolish. You need a warm embrace, don’t you mike. You do. Now admit it. You sweet thang. You’re just grumpy on the outside, aren’t you. And, it is all because of all the hypocrisy and the adding of homonyms that you have to subject yourself to every day. You can tell us. It is true, isn’t it.
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
1:41 pm
You can do it too mike. Flapping the gums, that is. It is really fun and it is stress relieving too. You just lick your lips and poke them out real far. That much I didn’t even have to tell you though. That is because you are a grump. Anyway, not to distract from the task at hand. Now, take your index finger and run it up and down against your upper and lower lips while exhaling, not through your nose, through your lips, silly. Now, you see. You can’t help but smile and grin and even giggle once you do that, especially if your better half catches you doing it and you have to explain it. hehehe.
Say What??
September 25th, 2009
1:42 pm
AmVet, is that the best you can come up with? Speaking of remedial math, I missed out. Some guy by the name of AmVet took the last seat. How about trying to knock down the debt post I offered. You offered a CBS News article? Hahahahahahaha. CBS?? Nothing like an accurate and unbiased news organization like Dan Rather’s CBS News. Hahahahahaha. You obviously missed the meds today.
Say What??
September 25th, 2009
1:44 pm
Still wrong, taxpayer. It was widely reported that Georgia received federal aid looooooonnnnngg before Joe Isuzu, er, I mean Joe Biden arrived. I know.
Mrs. Godzilla
September 25th, 2009
1:45 pm
Off Topic but funny:
Via TPM
Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) argued that insurers must be required to cover basic maternity care. (In several states there are no such requirements.)
“I don’t need maternity care,” Kyl said. “So requiring that on my insurance policy is something that I don’t need and will make the policy more expensive.”
Stabenow interrupted: “I think your mom probably did.”
F. Sinkwich
September 25th, 2009
1:47 pm
Any so-called sanctions by Russia and China against Iran or North Korea will be all sizzle and no steak. Of course Chairman O will ignore this inconvenient fact and will go to bed each night believing he’s made the world safer.
Meanwhile, back at the Kremlin Putin and his buddies knock back vodka and and belly-laugh every time one of them does an Obama impression of his speech at the UN. They blow chunks when someone mentions Obama’s toughness on missile defense in eastern Europe.
The world is a tough place. Unfortunately Chairman O is not. I fear for our country’s safety, much less the world’s.
It’s Bush’s fault <—– Beat you to it!
Say What??
September 25th, 2009
1:47 pm
TPM. Wow, another “objective” source cited today.
TnGelding
September 25th, 2009
1:47 pm
The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
mike
September 25th, 2009
1:48 pm
Mrs G –
But doesn’t that miss the point a bit? If one is single, gay or infertile, why should they have to purchase a plan the covers maternity care?
Say What??
September 25th, 2009
1:49 pm
Where are you AmVet? Did the “Obama tripling the debt” post overload your circuit or make your meds null and void?
mike
September 25th, 2009
1:49 pm
TnGelding –
“The sky is falling! The sky is falling!”
Actually, Jay’s post about global warming is downstairs. It is titled, “Our Grandchildren Will Curse Us to Our Face.”
Pretty hysterical, huh?
AmVet
September 25th, 2009
1:50 pm
Say What, are you really that dense???
Do you really contend the debt was only $5.8 trillion when George of the Bungle left office?
Are you seeing an entire team of doctors???
PLEASE do cite your “sources”, mystery meat.
I’d love to see it one single solitary source for this nonsense, “I believe the last estimate I heard…”
Link phobic?
Corrobaorationally challenged?
CBS ain’t good enough for ya?
And yet all you can do is pull numbers out of your ample…
Lay them on me stud…
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/NPGateway
mike
September 25th, 2009
1:50 pm
Say What –
Do you really want to go down that road? Asking AmVet to accept a fact that he does not want to be true?
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
1:53 pm
Say What??
September 25th, 2009
1:44 pm
Still wrong, taxpayer. It was widely reported that Georgia received federal aid looooooonnnnngg before Joe Isuzu, er, I mean Joe Biden arrived. I know.
Now, try to pay attention. If you’re having trouble with this step, then you will not be able to get the following. I’ll repeat it.
Perdue called Obama and asked for fed help. Obama said yes and sent Biden to talk to the folks in some of the hardest hit counties — counties that just happen to have a good number of conservative Republicans that don’t really want any outside help, especially from the fed. They don’t trust Obama and they sure don’t want no handout from the fed because that would mean that tax payer’s money would be coming to them even though they need it. So, Biden came and eased the pain of accepting that handout.
Mrs. Godzilla
September 25th, 2009
1:53 pm
mike
i guess for the same reason if you are male and single and suffer from irectile dyfunction insurance covers viagra.
mike
September 25th, 2009
1:53 pm
If you want to get a handle on the timelines of the deficit, take a peek at this graphic from the Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2009/03/21/GR2009032100104.html
It’s not just the deficit of the current year. It is the deficits in the future that are the real problem.
Say What??
September 25th, 2009
1:54 pm
AmVet, speaking of dense. P l e a s e
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It referenced Money.
Now, back to the Daily Kos for you.
StinkFoot
September 25th, 2009
1:54 pm
I don’t need maternity care,” Kyl said. “So requiring that on my insurance policy is something that I don’t need and will make the policy more expensive.”
Stabenow interrupted: “I think your mom probably did.”
Whats so funny about that? Seems more like a typical smart a s sed rebuke from yet another know-nothing democrap.
mike
September 25th, 2009
1:55 pm
Mrs. Godzilla –
“i guess for the same reason if you are male and single and suffer from irectile dyfunction insurance covers viagra.”
Well, that shouldn’t be either. Making people buy health coverage for which they have no use is unfair.
Say What??
September 25th, 2009
1:55 pm
Mrs. Godzilla, what is “irectile” dysfunction? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Guess you sipped too many cold ones in your hot tub while wathcing your dogs.
Captain Underpants
September 25th, 2009
1:56 pm
Obobo is just trying to change to topic of focus from OboboCare to Iran. He doesnt care what Iran does because they are his Muslim brothers and sisters.
Obobo is just worthless and maybe even more worthless than Carter.
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
1:57 pm
AmVet,
I think Say What may be one of those, you know, members of The Order of the Deniers too. So, go easy on him. You may need to break down the truth into smaller pieces fo rhim to chew on. Smaller, smaller, no, smaller. Getting warmer… .
mike
September 25th, 2009
1:58 pm
So What –
You have to keep in mind that Taxpayer is incapable of distinguishing between the bizarre theories he creates to satisfy his mindless partisan hatred and reality.
Mrs. Godzilla
September 25th, 2009
2:00 pm
Mike
Pink and Blue healthcare!
What a great idea!
Say What??
September 25th, 2009
2:00 pm
Taxpayer…..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…..thanks for the laugh. Biden “eased” their pain? My goodness, what WOULD we do without Joe’s compassion? By the way, he visited primarily metro Atlanta – Obama country – so leave the Republican nonsense out of it. Floods don’t discriminate between parties. Unless, of course, you want to blame this on Bush.
mike
September 25th, 2009
2:01 pm
Mrs. Godzilla –
“Pink and Blue healthcare! What a great idea!’
Can we trademark that?
Horrible Horace
September 25th, 2009
2:02 pm
Well of course the flood was the fault of Bush. If the N.O. levees had been strengthened properly this ATL flooding would never have occurred. GEESH…how simple must I make it for you! *POOT*
Say What??
September 25th, 2009
2:03 pm
Taxpayer, Order of the deniers? Not familiar with them. You, on the other hand, play the blame game. Bush or Cheney, take your pick.
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
2:03 pm
You have to keep in mind that Taxpayer is incapable of distinguishing between the bizarre theories he creates to satisfy his mindless partisan hatred and reality.
Awww, mike. That is just so sweet. Why do I get the feeling that you chose to ignore the advice that I offered you in my earlier post. Here. let me repeat it so you can have it at your finger tip.
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
1:41 pm
You can do it too mike. Flapping the gums, that is. It is really fun and it is stress relieving too. You just lick your lips and poke them out real far. That much I didn’t even have to tell you though. That is because you are a grump. Anyway, not to distract from the task at hand. Now, take your index finger and run it up and down against your upper and lower lips while exhaling, not through your nose, through your lips, silly. Now, you see. You can’t help but smile and grin and even giggle once you do that, especially if your better half catches you doing it and you have to explain it. hehehe.
There. Now try it, mike. I think it could do you good. Really. You have to trust me on this one. Don’t be afraid. It won’t hurt. In fact, it tickles a little.
Nothing is Free
September 25th, 2009
2:04 pm
Amvet
Optimism is a good thing. I’ll play the lotto tonight. I’m already picking out my boat.
USinUK
**yes. if they broke the law, yes, I most definitely have a problem with that. **
Well I guess we are OK. The department of justice gave their OK before either person was water-boarded. So if that is the only criteria, then why in the world would the Obama administration want to waste all that time and money? Could it be about politics and his penchant for acting like a third world dictator that is making him do it?
Public Option’s Doing Swell
i thought I was Mike. Didn’t you claim that I was Mike?
Mike
I’m you. You must be a hell of a good guy and a snazzy dresser, too.
AmVet
September 25th, 2009
2:06 pm
Say What, your amazing intellectual dishonesty and lack of basic integrity preclude you from admitting that you royally screwed up those numbers.
And you still won’t produce one single item to confirm your fallacious claim.
Will you?
Nope.
Not one. Not now. Not ever.
So by way of red herring and to try and avoid the embarrassing spotlight that is shing squarely on you, you imagine I somehow support BHO’s disastrously bad fiscal policies.
I voted against him. I predicted he would be a corporatist and a disaster. I said like his predecessor – the one you voted for twice – he was a total farce. I told my liberal friends to prepare to be disappointed. On this very blog.
IMHO, he is just another Republican-lite but that doesn’t change the fact that you could no more accurately assess a political candidate than you could tell us what the national debt figures were in Jan. 2001 and Jan. 2008.
But your comedic efforts, mystery meat, are at least humorous…
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
2:08 pm
Say What??
September 25th, 2009
2:00 pm
Taxpayer…..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…..thanks for the laugh. Biden “eased” their pain? My goodness, what WOULD we do without Joe’s compassion? By the way, he visited primarily metro Atlanta – Obama country – so leave the Republican nonsense out of it. Floods don’t discriminate between parties. Unless, of course, you want to blame this on Bush.
It is all right, say what. I know that conservative Republican pride can be a tough thang to swallow. What, with Perdue having to ask Obama for help and Obama saying yes and all. It was nice of Obama to send Biden down here like that, now wasn’t it. It is good to see that you are not denying that. There may be hope for you yet, in a few years. Then again, who knows. You just hang in there though. We’re here to help.
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
2:12 pm
Say What??
September 25th, 2009
2:03 pm
Taxpayer, Order of the deniers? Not familiar with them. You, on the other hand, play the blame game. Bush or Cheney, take your pick
I understand. It’s that secrecy thang, isn’t it. Secret handshake and all. And, the special code language that you use to screen out people that you are not supposed to listen to. That is what the ‘blame Bush’ thang is that you cling to, isn’t it. But, you don’t have to say anything. It will be our little secret.
Nothing is Free
September 25th, 2009
2:15 pm
Taxpayer
**t was nice of Obama to send Biden down here like that, now wasn’t it**
Not really. It was nice for Biden . . . al those photo-ops of him looking concerned. We could have used the help several days ago like . . . like . . . no, I guess the comparisons to the response time under Bush and Obama would be unfair. Bush is a conservative. He is expected to be efficient and strong in everything he did. Obama is a democrat, so it’s not really fair to expect him to be anything more than a non-caring gov’ment worker who might get around to it today, or maybe not.
mike
September 25th, 2009
2:16 pm
Nothing is free –
“I’m you. You must be a hell of a good guy and a snazzy dresser, too.”
Lucky devil. Welcome aboard.
By the way, one of the angry liberals accused me of being Ray yesterday, so you are Ray too.
Public Option's Doing Swell
September 25th, 2009
2:17 pm
Yesterday, “Mike” committed to ignorance and lazyness said that I was lying when I stated the Senate Finance Committee took up an amendment by Sen. Bill Nelson to close the donut. They did; and Republicans and Blue Dogs heavily paid by Insurance and Pharmaceutical comapnies voted to continue donut and Medicare D insolvency. This will be addressed again there, and on floor/conference and is addressed in the 4 other committees. Mike made a false statement because he was ignorant and too lazy to research his rambling.
Today I stated that the main reason the post office is on a GAO list of financially risky agencies is because of the regulatory framework a Republican controlled set of oversight committees in House and Senate set up and I was correct. Further the NYT article I pointed out did not blame “the internet” for financial problems at the Post Office. In fact it was clear that Potter who runs the Post Office blamed Congress for the byzantine financial framework and lack of tools he has, but Repubozos read what they want in articles no matter what’s in front of their face.
It is fact that the financial framework that the NYT points out is unique only to the Post Office was set up by the Senate and the House when Repubozos were in complete control. The Postal Regulatory Comission makes suggests but has little power, just like MEDPAC for Medicare.
And as I said yesterday, Medicare Part D was set up in 2003 by the Repubozo Congress chiefly Bill Frist after heavy contributions to them by the pharm industry. Repubozzos like to bank on Medicare as if it were a living breathing entity. Medicare’s finances are totally controlled by the Senate Finance Committee and Grassley a Repubozo who lies about death panels was Chairman when the SF Committee hamstrung Medicare.
Back to the Post Office’s financial setup which was not done by Mr. Potter or the Post Office. As he says in the NYT article–his hands are completely tied and they aren’t tied by the “internet.” It doesn’t set financial regs for USPO.
The financial organization of USPO is set by Congress who has confirmation power over its Board of Governors who have next to no power and do not make financial statutes. Acord 39 U.S.C. § 202 Article I, section 8, Clause 7 of the United States Constitution grants U.S. Congress the power to establish post offices and post roads. The latest set of financial architecture regs for the USPO was the Postal Act of 2006 reported by Senator Grassley’s committee to the Senate floor and by the House Committee on Oversight of Governmental Affairs which regs the USPS in the House. The Chairman in 2006 was Tom Davis of Virginia the powerful Republican who resigned in 2008.
Nothing is Free
September 25th, 2009
2:19 pm
Mike
Me and you and Ray makes three. Actually, you know that there is only one conservative in the world and we are him. I am feeling pretty powerful right now.
Is the party with Sarah Palin still on? What a dish.
Nothing is Free
September 25th, 2009
2:25 pm
Mike
You . . . er I . . . er Ray . . . whatever . . . must have done something right. When he starts a post with: Yesterday, “Mike” committed to ignorance and lazyness, he has kicked into Televangelist mode where his biggest regret in life is that there is not a key on the keyboard that will make a finger shake at you.
Good job.
Say What??
September 25th, 2009
2:26 pm
Taxpayer, you say things like giving hugs and keeping little secrets. Are you a 10 year old girl?
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
2:27 pm
Nothing is Free
September 25th, 2009
2:15 pm
Taxpayer
**t was nice of Obama to send Biden down here like that, now wasn’t it**
Not really. It was nice for Biden . . . al those photo-ops of him looking concerned. We could have used the help several days ago like . . . like . . . no, I guess the comparisons to the response time under Bush and Obama would be unfair. Bush is a conservative. He is expected to be efficient and strong in everything he did. Obama is a democrat, so it’s not really fair to expect him to be anything more than a non-caring gov’ment worker who might get around to it today, or maybe not.
Not really. Obama could do nothing until Perdue asked for the help. The ball was in Perdue’s court. Obama replied with a yes to that ask for help very quickly and then he sent Biden down to give that show of support. Of course, he probably would have worn his jeans and brought a pair of gloves if he had known that you needed his personal help. He’s just that kind of guy.
Say What??
September 25th, 2009
2:30 pm
Taxpayer, since you are so enamored with “little secrets” I’ll let you in on one. Go to CBS News and you’ll find an interesting piece that Dan Rather did on George W. Bush and the National Guard. Keep it quiet though. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! You socialists, er, libs are hilarious.
Taxpayer
September 25th, 2009
2:30 pm
Say What??
September 25th, 2009
2:26 pm
Taxpayer, you say things like giving hugs and keeping little secrets. Are you a 10 year old girl?
Do you expect to get hugs from ten year old girls and do you ask them to keep them secret. If so, I think you have a serious issue that requires immediate attention. Seek help now. I urge you.