Secret Iranian nuke facility revealed; showdown may loom

From the Associated Press:

President Barack Obama, flanked by French President Nicolas Sarkozy and British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, warn of a push for stern new sanctions against Iran after discovery of a secret nuclear research facility. (AP photo)

President Barack Obama, flanked by French President Nicolas Sarkozy and British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, warn of a push for stern new sanctions against Iran after discovery of a secret nuclear research facility. (AP photo)

VIENNA – Iran has revealed the existence of a secret uranium-enrichment plant, the International Atomic Energy Agency said Friday, a development that could heighten fears about Tehran’s ability to produce a nuclear weapon and escalate its diplomatic confrontation with the West.

President Barack Obama and the leaders of France and Britain demanded Friday that Iran fully disclose its nuclear ambitions “or be held accountable” to an impatient world community. They threatened new sanctions after the disclosure of a secret Iranian nuclear facility.

“Iran is breaking rules that all nations must follows,” Obama said in the opening moments of the G-20 economic summit….

Two officials told the AP that Iran revealed the existence of the second plant in a letter sent Monday to International Atomic Energy Agency chief Mohamed ElBaradei.

IAEA spokesman Marc Vidricaire confirmed receipt of the letter, saying the agency was informed “that a new pilot fuel enrichment plant is under construction.” The letter said that the plant would not enrich uranium beyond the 5 percent level suitable for civilian energy production. That would be substantially below the threshold of 90 percent or more needed for a weapon.”

Iranian leaders reportedly revealed existence of the plant only after learning that Western intelligence was onto them.  The discovery of such blatant cheating by Iran may force countries such as Russia and China to finally show their hand regarding sanctions against Iran. And given the Iranian government’s precarious grip on power, the power of those sanctions to force change may never be greater.

215 comments Add your comment

RW-(the original)

September 25th, 2009
11:09 am

Enter your comments here—-please repair this

We knew about this before the UN meeting but our “leader” decided to wait until he got to Pittsburgh to mention it.

Truth

September 25th, 2009
11:12 am

Something must be done. I am not saying they need to be attacked because I am not an expert on the issue, but diplimacy isn’t working.

Zip

September 25th, 2009
11:18 am

Didn’t we learn anything from our dealings with the No Koreans? And Supreme Leader is just shocked! How dare they lie!

joe matarotz

September 25th, 2009
11:23 am

Time for Obama to appoint an Iranian-Nuclear-Weapons Czar. Yeah, that’s the ticket!

Mrs. Godzilla

September 25th, 2009
11:25 am

I love the fact that we knew about it before they admitted to it….
means somebody is on the ball.

Diplomacy isn’t working? I don’t know…..we are being diplomatic,
we have learned the truth, the world is behind us and nobody has been blown up yet. Sounds like it is working.

Truth

September 25th, 2009
11:27 am

They continue to build. The object of diplomacy was to stop them from building.

godless heathen

September 25th, 2009
11:27 am

More Sanctions! That has them quaking in their boots.

But I don’t understand the concern. If we have nukes, why can’t they? Besides, when Obama gets rid of ours, they will destroy theirs, because Obama is going to ask them nicely.

RollerGirl

September 25th, 2009
11:28 am

Bookman must be as naive as B.Hussein believes the rest of us to be. China and Russia won’t have to support sanctions, there is always an out..thats why our Unilateralism , now abandoned, was important ..it allowed us to act to get our way, even when otherswere dead set against helping and indeed, profiting from status quo(Russia is BUILDING their nuclear infrastucture in Iran). Netanyahu, do your business…I hope before you leave office, Ahmedinijad is dead And the Bashir site is spewing thick black smoke from a cratered centrifuge bunker. If carter had had the guts and the wisdom to assassinate Khomeini in Paris in exile, none of this would ever have been necessary. Jimmy Carter was a loser who’s failures continue to reverberate.

getalife

September 25th, 2009
11:31 am

This is why it is treason to out an undercover CIA agent for Iranian nukes but they still caught it .

Nice work.

Mrs. Godzilla

September 25th, 2009
11:31 am

Seems we’ve been tracking this location for years…..

Mrs. Godzilla

September 25th, 2009
11:32 am

Good job by our intelligence community!

How about a round of applause?

USinUK

September 25th, 2009
11:33 am

godless –

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_parties_to_the_Nuclear_Non-Proliferation_Treaty

when you’re scrolling and get to the H’s … slow down

Dave R.

September 25th, 2009
11:33 am

This is the kind of Hope & Change we get when the leader of the free world pees in his pants. More sanctions that haven’t worked.

Pokey

September 25th, 2009
11:33 am

What???!!! No way!

I am sure the Iranians are afraid of BHO, et al.

USinUK

September 25th, 2009
11:33 am

Mrs. G -

(golf clap)

Mrs. Godzilla

September 25th, 2009
11:33 am

Mrs. Godzilla

September 25th, 2009
11:34 am

UsinUK

NYT says Obama was briefed on this after elecetion so the previous administration knew about it as well…..

USinUK

September 25th, 2009
11:35 am

getalife –

“This is why it is treason to out an undercover CIA agent for Iranian nukes but they still caught it”

well said!

Dave R.

September 25th, 2009
11:36 am

If we have been tracking this location for years, Mrs. G., wouldn’t that have been Bush’s intelligence community? You know, the one that wasn’t afraid of government-sponsored witch hunts exposing everything they did and how they did them?

USinUK

September 25th, 2009
11:36 am

Mrs. G –

“NYT says Obama was briefed on this after elecetion so the previous administration knew about it as well…..”

shocked … gambling … blahblahblah

stands for decibels

September 25th, 2009
11:38 am

You know, the one that wasn’t afraid of government-sponsored witch hunts exposing everything they did and how they did them?

It’s not very nice to talk about Dick Cheney like that.

AmVet

September 25th, 2009
11:43 am

Personally I’m a big fan of the Reverse Cheney Doctrine:

If there’s a 1% chance that that the neo-conned are attempting to regain power, we have to treat it as a certainty in terms of our response. It’s not about our analysis … It’s about our response.

GEORGE AMERICAN

September 25th, 2009
11:44 am

BOTH PLANTS COULD BE EASILY TAKEN OUT WITH A COUPLE OF WELL PLACED DAISY CUTTER – PROBLEM SOLVED!!!

BUT WHY DO WE CARE WHAT FRANCE THINKS – THOSE ANTIE-AMERICAN SURRENDER MONKEYS!!!

USinUK

September 25th, 2009
11:45 am

george – you forgot “cheese-eating”!!!

stands for decibels

September 25th, 2009
11:46 am

George @ 11.44, who is this “Daisy” you speak of, and how would you propose to weaponize her flatulence?

jconservative

September 25th, 2009
11:48 am

RW-(the original)

“We knew about this before the UN meeting but our “leader” decided to wait until he got to Pittsburgh to mention it.”

If you are interested in the facts. We new about it last fall. Bush’s NSC people briefed Obama just after the election.

There is an advantage gained when you know something about the other side that they do not know you know. The Iranians only found out a few days ago that we (US, UK, Fr & Ger) had been onto them for a year. That is why they wrote their “confessional” letter to the IAEA.

Nothing is Free

September 25th, 2009
11:49 am

AMvet

**If there’s a 1% chance that that the neo-conned are attempting to regain pow**

Do you have any idea about what is going to happen to the democrats in Congress in 2010? Obama can’t even get them to act like a majority because they are so terrified of losing their jobs. They should be very worried. Other than others like you: the unthinking far left, no one supports what they are trying to do.

Bye, bye, dims.

USinUK

September 25th, 2009
11:49 am

(shouldn’t have brought up cheese … skipped lunch and starving … )

jconservative

September 25th, 2009
11:50 am

GEORGE AMERICAN – When we went into Afghanistan the French we the first on the ground after the US.

USinUK

September 25th, 2009
11:51 am

“That is why they wrote their “confessional” letter to the IAEA.”

dear iaea …

I never thought I’d write a letter like this …

jconservative

September 25th, 2009
11:53 am

RollerGirl September 25th, 2009 11:28 am
“..thats why our Unilateralism , now abandoned, was important…”

What unilateralism? Give us an example.

Nothing is Free

September 25th, 2009
11:54 am

USinUK

*shocked …**

You shouldn’t be. We had a real CIA back then. Obama will learn nothing other than what Bush’s administration was able to find out.

USinUK

September 25th, 2009
11:56 am

NiF –

“We had a real CIA back then”

that’s right … so it was important that Cheney out them (especially the ones working on Iran and their nuclear capabilities) for being the real CIA that they were … or something like that …

mike

September 25th, 2009
11:57 am

The idea that China and Russia are going to back serious sanction is naive.

The question is what do we do when they don’t.

AmVet

September 25th, 2009
11:57 am

Antie?

I believe you mean the French are Auntie American Surrender Monkeys, Georgie.

You know, married to Uncle American Surrender Monkeys.

Nothing, I agree that the chances for another epic, record-breaking neo-con slaughterfest – which would make three in a row – are not that good.

With a lot of hard work and huge piles of dirty money your beloved fraud conservatives loss rate won’t yet again be an almost unimaginable 94%.

OUCH!!!

That’s gotta hurt.

I’m guessing the Republidolts will lose around 65 – 80% of all contested national seats from sea to shining sea in 2010.

Which is still great news for the nation.

And immense pleasure for the rest of us…

stands for decibels

September 25th, 2009
11:58 am

I never thought I’d write a letter like this …

Y’know, if you’re fighting hunger pangs, the visual of Ahmadinejad penning a Penthouse Forum letter oughta do the trick.

USinUK

September 25th, 2009
11:59 am

dB –

sadly, no … I’ve gone past the point of no return … even picturing Dick Cheney writing a letter like that doesn’t put me off my feed at the moment …

oh … waitaminnit … I may have spoken too soon …

Nothing is Free

September 25th, 2009
11:59 am

USinUK

Cheney outed them? Hmmm. but what about the trials that the Obama crew are planning. Do you have a problem with any of that?

BTW, I left you an answer to the climate change post downstairs. Better stay away from it. Pretty logical stuff. You are not going to like it at all.

Mrs. Godzilla

September 25th, 2009
12:01 pm

isn’t Dick Cheney still evil?

Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

September 25th, 2009
12:01 pm

Mrs. Godzilla
September 25th, 2009
11:31 am

“Seems we’ve been tracking this location for years…..”; or, more appropriately, President Bush and Vice President Cheney have been tracking it for years. G-d bless you President Bush, you kept us safe in a dangerous world.

The other truth to jump forth from this episode is equally clear, now we know why experienced, smart leaders, such as President Bush and Vice President Cheney, would not offer to meet “without preconditions” with a bunch of animals like the leaders of Iran. Our dufus, Obumbler, did, however.

Finally, G-d bless Netanyahu for speaking a truth that the world had to hear even though our callow, inexperienced community organizer abdicated our world authority. I guess, at least when it come to freedom and moral clarity, the leader of Yisrael, rather than the POTUS, is the leader of the free world. Change we can’t believe happened. Could we have put a dumber, more ignorant smuck into the Whitehouse than its current resident?

Palin/Liz Cheney 2012 – before its too late.

jconservative

September 25th, 2009
12:02 pm

USinUK
“dear iaea …
I never thought I’d write a letter like this …”

You got it just about right.
————-
Mrs. Godzilla – Give a tip of the hat the intelligence services of UK, Fr & Ger. Since they have people on the ground they probably had more to do with uncovering the Qom facility than we did.

mike

September 25th, 2009
12:02 pm

LOL. Looks like old George American has nothing to say.

Look, bro. Spare us the shouting in bolded caps and just write “Conservatives are bad”. That’s all your pathetic rhetorical skills are capable of.

USinUK

September 25th, 2009
12:04 pm

mike –

(pssst … george american … eeees joke … not to take seriously … )

USinUK

September 25th, 2009
12:05 pm

NiF –

“Do you have a problem with any of that?”

yes. if they broke the law, yes, I most definitely have a problem with that. as should anyone who supposedly loves their country and supports their troops.

Doggone/GA

September 25th, 2009
12:06 pm

“not to take seriously …”

Awhhh…give Mikey a break. He can’t help it. His Pavolvian resonse just TAKES OVER and he sends that complaint before he can stop himself. He just can’t help it.

Say What??

September 25th, 2009
12:11 pm

So how’s that “Hope and Change” been working out for you guys?

Mrs. Godzilla

September 25th, 2009
12:11 pm

Byll….

Preconditions? what the hell does that have to do with anything?

looks to me that keeping it under wraps in order to drop it on the international stage was a brilliant idea.

marvelous timing

good for the inteligence community from both administrations and France and the UK and everybody else!

TW

September 25th, 2009
12:13 pm

Early Christmas for the right -

“A Fulton County Superior Court judge this morning cancelled a temporary restraining order that had stopped Grady hospital from closing its outpatient dialysis clinic.”

Be more humane to gas them, wouldn’t it?

Ah, but not as cheap…

The rightwing was better back when they thought Jesus was cool….

AmVet

September 25th, 2009
12:14 pm

(pssst … george american … eeees joke … not to take seriously … )

What a hoot, USinUK,

Reminds me of the slap the Jap humor prevalent in the 80s.

Not to be confused with Slap Funk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7AfJkD8mh8

Mrs. Godzilla

September 25th, 2009
12:15 pm

Say what

actually the Hope and Change are working out quite well for me.

I really wish it does for you too.

RW-(the original)

September 25th, 2009
12:15 pm

Enter your comments here–jconservative,

I think you missed the point but why doesn’t that surprise me? The point is that since all parties knew before the UN speeches began it might have been a more meaningful place for BO to do his toothless tongue lashing.

Say What??

September 25th, 2009
12:16 pm

So jump right in, TW, and take your money to keep it open. After all, money is always availble for unprofitable operations, right?

USinUK

September 25th, 2009
12:16 pm

NiF –

this will be my only post on the issue from downstairs – regarding your question of whether or not temperatures are rising, I recommend you look on this link:

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A2.lrg.gif

I’m not surprised you remember the question of cooling in the 50s and 60s when you look at the chart, there was a leveling off – however, if you look at the overall trend (particularly in the last 40 years), you can’t deny that the earth is warming.

as for the ozone, just because you don’t read about it now, doesn’t mean it’s not an issue. yes, the hole appears and disappears, but the overall thinning of the stratosphere is of concern because of what it could mean for increased incidents of skin cancer and the catastrophic effects it could have on crops.

and, now, I’m really done on this issue.

Say What??

September 25th, 2009
12:17 pm

Working out well for you? So how much bailing out have you received, Mrs. Godzilla?

Mrs. Godzilla

September 25th, 2009
12:17 pm

RW

but it also might NOT have been a more meaningful place……

You guess is as good as anyones though.

Mrs. Godzilla

September 25th, 2009
12:18 pm

Say what

None? You?

GEORGE AMERICAN

September 25th, 2009
12:20 pm

mike,
YOU SIMPLETON!!! GEORGE AMERICAN CAN SAY WHATEVER HE WANTS. YOU GO AHEAD A SNIVEL ABOUT GEORGE AMERICAN’S POWERFUL CONSERVATIVE VOICE, IF YOU WANT. CAUSE YOU ARE TOO WEAK TO HAVE SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT TO SAY!!!

IT’S A FREE COUNTRY, A LEAST UNTIL THE JACKET-BOOT OBOZO FASCISTS KICK IN YOU DOOR AND TAKE YOUR MONEY AND GUNS. SO SNIVELING WHILE YOU CAN, mike!!!!

Say What??

September 25th, 2009
12:21 pm

I don’t accept handouts, MG. It’s also not a prerequisite for my vote. You know, sort of a “I’m a capitalist and will stand on my own two feet” mentality. I’m not very impressed with the liberal “from the cradle to the grave” style of government

Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

September 25th, 2009
12:22 pm

Mrs. Godzilla
September 25th, 2009
12:11 pm

“Preconditions? what the hell does that have to do with anything?”

Surely, you jest. The world has seen our president make overtures “without precondition” to a most evil regime. He either did that not knowing about the report or with full knowledge. Neither smart nor experienced enough to know how to deal with thugs, or not in command of the facts when he makes an initiative, either way , on the world stage he looks like a stooge, duped by Iran’s leadership.

Add this to undercutting (which see Polles and Czechs) or abandoning (which see Yisrael) in a quixotic quest to prove to the world that he is not Bush and to be loved by all. Well, I have news for Obama, I know President Bush, and Obama is no President Bush. Obama is not of the caliber sufficient to earn the right to shovel President Bush’s dog’s manure.

The world see Obama as a harmless, silly man – a useful fool to its interests – and they love him for that.

There was nothing brilliant about the current scrambling that Obama undertakes, just another show of incompetence and weakness to the world.

Public Option's Doing Swell

September 25th, 2009
12:22 pm

Sanctions have not worked, because Russia and France will continue to sell nuclear bomb precursor materials to Iran and possibly North Korea behind our backs. Sanctions will not work. The Sanctions of course do not impact the elite people running the Iran government, and certainly not the byzantine cleric structure. Bush and Condi operated in hibernation mode and were ignored by Iran for 8 years, and now they will have nuclear bomb delivery capability to anywhere in the Mideast and Europe soon if not now.

Better consider Plan “B” whatever that is.

godless heathen

September 25th, 2009
12:23 pm

USinUK,

Send that link to Imanutjob. He must have forgotten about it.

Public Option's Doing Swell

September 25th, 2009
12:24 pm

Yo Repubozos Wake up–

Iran has been a certainty to have nuclear bomb capability well before Bush’s 2nd term. And you all didn’t do jack squat effing anything.

And that was because?

Mrs. Godzilla

September 25th, 2009
12:25 pm

Say What

Me neither! Never did.

Still the hope and change is working quite well for me.

AmVet

September 25th, 2009
12:26 pm

Would that be the irrelevant UN? Or the relevant one?

Keeping up with conned double speak is not that easy, but can be mastered over time.

Just remember that black is white, war is peace, up is down and lies are truth.

And also to always replace the word conservative with corporate.

Mrs. Godzilla

September 25th, 2009
12:26 pm

Now, there, there Byll….

I’m sure you’ll get the chance to blow something up sometime.

Is that your best shot?

September 25th, 2009
12:28 pm

Public Option’s Doing Swell referes to “Repubozos”. That’s the best you got? What are you, a third grader? Get of you mommy’s computer.

Slick

September 25th, 2009
12:28 pm

GEORGE AMERICAN

This may come as a shock to you…but “What France Thinks” is a lot more important than what YOU think!

If you think that an attack on Iran’s facilities would go unanswered…you are certainly uninformed if not completely stupid!

Say What??

September 25th, 2009
12:29 pm

MG said “never did”. Riiiiiigggggghhhhhhhttttt.

Kumbaya, MG, Kumbaya………..

Mrs. Godzilla

September 25th, 2009
12:29 pm

AmVet

great catch.

Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

September 25th, 2009
12:30 pm

Mrs. Godzilla
September 25th, 2009
12:26 pm

I don’t want to blow something up. I just want America to have someone cut from a better cloth than the keystone cops in the Whitehouse. I want a President with moral clarity and at least enough character to quick smoking rather than smoking in the oval office.

In our current president we have far less than this nation dweserves.

Say What??

September 25th, 2009
12:30 pm

AmVet said to “always replace the word conservative with corporate.” Be glad to if you will also always replace the word liberal with socialist.

Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

September 25th, 2009
12:31 pm

Enter your comments here

Public Option's Doing Swell

September 25th, 2009
12:33 pm

Bolton was ensconsed at the UN unconfirmed by the Senate on a recess appointment from 2005-2006 and resigned when the Senate wouldn’t confirm him. He was planted there by Bush for years and he didn’t do effing anything at all to stop Iran. He was followed by Zalmay Khalilzad who changed nothing.

Further Bush chose for 8 years not to even make the UN Ambassador a cabinet level position, and he refused to have any discussions with Iran. Whatever pre-conditions Bush communicated via back channels, Iran communicated a very consistent one to Bush. They gave him the finger, and burned his effigy in the streets every day.

Intelligence showed that at least 2/3 of the under 20 generation in Iran was and is favorably disposed towards the US and Bush ignored them.

Plan B doesn’t include kvetching on Bookman’s blog–it will solve nothing.

Dudley Doright

September 25th, 2009
12:33 pm

USinUK

Thought your last word on global warming was in the previous blog but you’re at it again. Still predicting the end of mankind?

USinUK

September 25th, 2009
12:34 pm

godless –

don’t say nuts … I told you, I’m staaaaarving, here!

;-)

USinUK

September 25th, 2009
12:35 pm

“Still predicting the end of mankind?”

yep. next Tuesday … no, waitaminnit, I’ve got big plans for next weekend, so make it Tuesday week.

Mrs. Godzilla

September 25th, 2009
12:35 pm

Say What

Don’t be afraid. If you think I’m a liar man up and say it.

But. I’m not.

Years ago as a young divorced mother, financially eligible for food stamps I did not apply. I worked harder.

Don’t have an FHA mortgage.

Didn’t take advantage of cash for clunkers.

Pay my health care premiums.

Say What??

September 25th, 2009
12:36 pm

Riiigggghhhhttt, Iran started their nuclear program under Bush. What’s next, global warming started under Bush as well? Guess you actually believe Al Gore invented the internet.

stands for decibels

September 25th, 2009
12:37 pm

Now, there, there Byll….

I’m sure you’ll get the chance to blow something up sometime.

Like this, for example.

(yes, I went there.)

Say What??

September 25th, 2009
12:38 pm

MG, you may not be paying health care premiums much longer if Obamacare comes to pass. You’ll get that wonderful government controlled solution. Just take your pill and drink the koolaid. After all, they have successfully run Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Cash for clunkers and many many more well-managed programs.

Taxpayer

September 25th, 2009
12:38 pm

What! And, they probably got it all done in just nine months. Amazing. Where was Bush during all this secretive work and why didn’t McCain insist that we bomb them off the face of the earth. Those Republicans just cannot do anything correctly.

GEORGE AMERICAN

September 25th, 2009
12:39 pm

IRAN, BRING IT ON!!!

WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OUR WEAK, SILLY LITTLE PRESIDENT O-PEASER AND HIS BAND OF FAIRY STOOGES (LIKE BARN-DOOR FRANK AND NANCY POSLEEZEY), AMERICAN HAS THE TOUGHEST AND MOST RUGGED WARRIORS IN THE WORLD!!!

AFTER WE BLOW UP YOUR SECRET BOMB PLANTS, WE WILL TAKE YOUR MONEY AND OIL!!!

Mrs. Godzilla

September 25th, 2009
12:39 pm

Byll,

Glad you don’t want to blow something up. You get 2 points.

I happen to have a President with moral clarity.

Taxpayer

September 25th, 2009
12:40 pm

Wyld Byll needs a hug. Where’s @@ when we really need her the most.

Say What??

September 25th, 2009
12:41 pm

MG, oh yeah, the govt run Post Office is billions in the hole. Another profitable govt run venture.

Public Option's Doing Swell

September 25th, 2009
12:41 pm

Anybody who floated an attack on Iran’s facilities is bringing the stupid writ large.

If anyone were in a position to know them, it’s Israel since we have next to no CIA presence in Iran. We’re depending on the Mossad and Shin Bet for almost all of our intelligence in Iran, with some help from a panoply of other countries. Iran is 1/5 the size of the US or roughly the size of the combined Western US. Their nuclear materials can be put into a space smaller than Jerry Jones’ new Mitsubishi scoreboard that the Sunday Football whizkids called Sony. So they could easily launch nuclear strikes that would put the middle east and Europe into the Stone age physically, and beyond what we can treat in 2009 nuclear medicine wise.

Mrs. Godzilla

September 25th, 2009
12:41 pm

al gore invented the internet……there’s your sign!

Mrs. Godzilla

September 25th, 2009
12:42 pm

say what

take a deep breath.

hope and change really works for me. sorry it hasn’t for you.

nuff said?

Dudley Doright

September 25th, 2009
12:42 pm

USinUK

Hate to hear your prediction about Tuesday week, however, I’m sure you and your brethren will find a way to blame it on Bush.

Taxpayer

September 25th, 2009
12:42 pm

Mrs. Godzilla

September 25th, 2009
12:35 pm

Don’t you just love these little kids and their little dream worlds that they have made up for themselves to live in. Think warm embrace. Do it for the children, no matter how old they may be in human years.

Public Option's Doing Swell

September 25th, 2009
12:44 pm

Whizkid–

The post office is Republican Congress run because they devised the idiotic byzantine financial allignment that makes them set aside funds for htousands of employees’ benefits package that they will never hire that they can’t touch.

Additionally, in case you haven’t noticed, an exponentially increasing amount of transactions are done by email and scanning and attachments and the snail mail system is being abandoned.

If you want to lay some dog crap at the feet of those who set up the current post office structure, put it at Chambliss’ door because he was involved.

Mrs. Godzilla

September 25th, 2009
12:45 pm

oh and

say what

as I have said before, I have read the ingredients on the koolaid
pouch and wouldn’t give that chemical mess to Joe or any of his doggie buddies.

Taxpayer

September 25th, 2009
12:45 pm

I hear the FDIC is broke. I wonder how many Republicans would be in favor of keeping them in business with some fed money. Poor ole grandma’s savings might not be too secure after all.

USinUK

September 25th, 2009
12:45 pm

“I’m sure you and your brethren will find a way to blame it on Bush.”

nah … sometimes we spread the blame around and share it with Cheney, as well …

(ask Bosch why … he’ll tell ya)

Say What??

September 25th, 2009
12:46 pm

MG, just curious, what Obama sponsored change has made your life so good? After all, you don’t take bailouts and didn’t participate in cash for clunkers. Unemployment continues to rise (blame it on Bush, right?) even under his adminstration. So what legislation made things so much better?

Mrs. Godzilla

September 25th, 2009
12:46 pm

USin UK

Can we wait till late October for the end of the world….

we’ve got a big surprise party and a baby shower planned….

damn I hate to waste the tapas

Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

September 25th, 2009
12:46 pm

Mrs. Godzilla
September 25th, 2009
12:39 pm

Obama is neither moral nor clear, or perhaps he merely meets a very low threshold set by those who consider him as such.

As the character of Kennedy has been slowly unraveled over time, so will it be with Obama. Once his protection from the media fades, I would wager that he will be just another shade of Cynthia McKinney. Just something that should be scraped off our collective shoes.

On the other hand, Obama has proved the perfect foil to initiate the recovery of the publics view of President Bush at a much earlier time than one would have suspected a scant few months back.

Luckily, Gov. Palin and Liz Cheney sit on the death panel that will terminate Obama’s political career in 2012.

mike

September 25th, 2009
12:47 pm

Anybody notice that there are no representatives from Russia or China on that podium?

If they can’t stand at a lectern and note their solidarity with the West on this, how can any reasonable person think they will support meaningful sanctions?

Dudley Doright

September 25th, 2009
12:48 pm

USinUK

My bad. I totally overlooked the “blame Cheney” mob. I’ll close with this: I would have rather gone hunting with Dick Cheney any day over riding in a car with (the now deceased) Ted Kennedy.

Public Option's Doing Swell

September 25th, 2009
12:48 pm

Here’s the Post Office Briefing your momma forgot to teach you to read for all of you Repubozos bringing the stupid bashing the Post Office. It was made financially precarious by your stupid Repubozo Congress years ago.

This is but one more in a series of things that the Katy Abram ignorant here blame on government when it is in fact the screwup of Repubozo government.

How Republicans Cripled the Post Office Along with Medicare

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/08/business/08nocera.html

Glad to school you.