Gen. McChrystal squelches talk of pressure, resignation
In a post about Afghanistan the other day, I included reports suggesting that Gen. Stanley McChrystal might resign if President Obama did not approve committing additional troops.
McChrystal has now stepped forward, forthrightly and professionally, to end that speculation and to endorse the debate now taking place in Washington. As the New York Times reports it:
General McChrystal said he agreed to speak to The New York Times on Wednesday after he became increasingly concerned about reports of rifts between the military and the civilian leadership, and about rumors he was considering resigning if his assessment was not accepted.
The general denied that he had discussed — or even considered — resigning his command, as had been whispered about at the Pentagon, saying that he was committed to carrying out whatever mission Mr. Obama approved.
“I believe success is achievable,” he said. “I can tell you unequivocally that I have not considered resigning at all….”
“This is the right kind of process, and the way I see duty,” he said. “I have been given the opportunity to provide my inputs to the decision. Then it is my duty to execute that decision.”
I’m glad the general set the record straight.
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Turd Ferguson
September 24th, 2009
3:16 pm
Capt Kirk wouldve kicked Picards Ace all over the galaxy.
stands for decibels
September 24th, 2009
3:16 pm
A world without nuclear weapons!!?!!
Gimme a break.
Yeah, what kind of wild-eyed dreamer would ever even suggest such a crazy thing?
jconservative
September 24th, 2009
3:17 pm
To bad McChrystal is not going to quit. He would have made a perfect running mate for Sarah Palin.
Dusty
September 24th, 2009
3:17 pm
Paul, Paul,
Don’t you know better than to ask questions that require rational answers? I mean this is a liberal blog!! This is where hate is spread like mayonaise on a dry sandwich.
Now change that question. Make it misleading, suggestive and undercover.. You will get an answer quicker than Taxie can pass out hugs or Doggone bark a bit. .
Mrs. Godzilla
September 24th, 2009
3:17 pm
I think a world without nuclear weapons is a grand ideal.
USinUK
September 24th, 2009
3:17 pm
Taxpayer –
I gotta admit, I didn’t really like Star Trek, the Kirk years … but I loved me some Jean Luc Picard!! (can’t help myself … )
Taxpayer
September 24th, 2009
3:19 pm
I was waitin’ to see who would pull out Reagan’s, “I have a dream.”
Mrs. Godzilla
September 24th, 2009
3:20 pm
Picard….oh baby!
Paul….
sorry it still does not make any sense to me.
Normal
September 24th, 2009
3:20 pm
Mike, gotta go, big date and I was hoping to answer this when you were here,,,but, you said: “Ahh, reinforcing the angry misogyny. It;s interesting that you think that it is an insult to call me “she”. Says a lot about you”
If you truly are not a woman, I apolgize but, you see, you sound like my daughter when she was thirteen, acting petulant, and seeing the world only according to her. So again, if I was wrong, sorry…
Taxpayer
September 24th, 2009
3:21 pm
USinUK,
Did you know the Borg took over the Republican party. That’s why they all look alike now.
USinUK
September 24th, 2009
3:22 pm
spaghetti calls …
ya’ll have a good night!!!
Paul
September 24th, 2009
3:22 pm
Normal 2:55
Well, Democrats spent years speaking of the ignored, neglected ‘good’ war. And it appears to many that when they take over they suddenly disown their prior comments.
This is what happens when people play politics with war.
Normal
September 24th, 2009
3:23 pm
Turd Ferguson
September 24th, 2009
3:16 pm
Capt Kirk wouldve kicked Picards Ace all over the galaxy.
Not so Sir, Kirk only had spock, Jon Luk had Data…not to mention Troi, yum…
Normal
September 24th, 2009
3:25 pm
Paul
September 24th, 2009
3:22 pm
Normal
This is what happens when people play politics with war.
This is SO true, Paul, so true…
—————-
Gotta go Gang, bye
Paul
September 24th, 2009
3:26 pm
Mrs. Godzilla 3:20
Let me try it this way.
Pres Obama says the Afghan mission is critical to protecting the United States.
If people believe Pres Obama, they will support his Afghan policies, which he says will protect us.
If people do not believe Pres Obama, if they think Afghanistan is not critical to protecting the United States, then they’re fine with leaving.
How can people say they believe Pres Obama, yet act in such a way that would put the US in jeopardy?
Is that more understandable?
Dusty
September 24th, 2009
3:26 pm
Well, what do you know? My brief comment was just “moderated” That makes 15 in the last three days. Bookman must be back from the golf course.
Tom
September 24th, 2009
3:27 pm
Ah Pittsburg! Ck it out. Always was a great hillbilly, white-trash Republicant City. At their classy best today!!!
Mrs. Godzilla
September 24th, 2009
3:28 pm
Paul
Now I understand.
OK, you call it disown their own comments we call it rethinking.
Dusty
September 24th, 2009
3:28 pm
Here we go again. My two brief comments of the last 5 minutes have been moderated. Wonder if the moderator will make it a dozen like their last big splurge of moderation.
eagle scout
September 24th, 2009
3:29 pm
McChrystal = Westmoreland….Same thing another era! Both losers!
McChrystal is the moron who has been justly criticized for his role in the aftermath of the 2004 death by friendly fire of Ranger and former professional football player Pat Tillman.
The day after approving a post posthumous Silver Star citation for Tillman that included the phrase “in the line of devastating enemy fire,” McChrystal sent an urgent memo warning senior government officials not to quote the citation in public speeches because it “might cause public embarrassment” if Tillman had in fact been killed by friendly fire, as McChrystal suspected.
You can’t make this stuff up!
And, now McChrystal is the current Commander, International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) and Commander, U.S. Forces Afghanistan.
Obama .. Gates get your heads out of your respective asses!
Dusty
September 24th, 2009
3:30 pm
Well this number four after three moderations.
Jay
September 24th, 2009
3:31 pm
You’ve been freed, Dusty, freed!!
whistling dixie
September 24th, 2009
3:33 pm
Dusty ..
Have you thought the blog gods are politely telling you to just go away…JUST GO AWAY!
Joseph Wherry
September 24th, 2009
3:34 pm
“A McClatchy newspapers’ journalist who witnessed the battle reported that a team of Marine trainers made repeated appeals for air and artillery support after being pinned down by insurgents in the village of Ganjgal in eastern Kunar province.
The U.S. troops had to wait more than an hour for attack helicopters to come to their aid and their appeal for artillery fire was rejected, with commanders citing new rules designed to avoid civilian casualties, the report said. ”
http://www.military.com/news/article/ambushed-marines-aid-call-rejected.html?col=1186032325324
,
Dusty
September 24th, 2009
3:35 pm
Sorry, folks, I guess the grinch gave up on my moderations and let them all go. Very strange. But four times moderated in about 15 minutes seems a bit much.
How were the “greens” today, Bookman?
Dusty
September 24th, 2009
3:41 pm
Ahhhhhh free at last!! I had my bags and my beach flip flops packed for Gitmo. Now I can’t go. Awwww… I won’t be able to drop off WHISTLIN’ DIXIE in Cuba where he belongs. What a shame!!
Rant
September 24th, 2009
3:45 pm
So, what is wrong with the below picture??
______________
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Barack Hussein Obama
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Equal work means equal pay
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Barack Hussein Obama
He said that we must take a stand
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Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said red, yellow, black or white
All are equal in his sight
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Barack Hussein Obama
Yes!
Mmm, mmm, mm
Barack Hussein Obama
Song 2:
Hello, Mr. President we honor you today!
For all your great accomplishments, we all doth say “hooray!”
Hooray, Mr. President! You’re number one!
The first black American to lead this great nation!
Hooray, Mr. President we honor your great plans
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So continue —- Mr. President we know you’ll do the trick
So here’s a hearty hip-hooray —-
Hip, hip hooray!
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md
September 24th, 2009
3:49 pm
“you were asserting that they came and stayed (which is how they eluded authorities, by “falling through the cracks” as you put it) when the record clearly says they all came and went from the mid-1990s through 2001.”
Came, went, and came back – some under Clinton. Read what you posted, not what you think you posted. Nowhere does it say anywhere that all came back after late Jan 2001.
Paul
September 24th, 2009
3:50 pm
Mrs. Godzilla 3:28
[[OK, you call it disown their own comments we call it rethinking.]]
That’s fine, but the essential point is, if Pres Obama says ‘this is critical to protecting the US’ and his erstwhile supporters oppose him on it
they do not believe Pres Obama and what he says about Afghanistan.
That’s how I see it in a nutshell.
Joseph Wherry
That appears to be the fault of micromanagement from the rear and not trusting the on scene commander (a sad state of affairs) rather than any fault with the rules of engagement. (The on scene commander said the area he was calling fire on was well away from any civilians).
Public Option's Doing Swell
September 24th, 2009
3:50 pm
Paul requested doc on Donut Vote:
http://bit.ly/2RFbba
Public Option's Doing Swell
September 24th, 2009
3:52 pm
Paul raised some question about the Medicare donut and which party made amendments to close it in the only committee completing their markup of the five with health care bills, suggesting Iake votes up and I’m happy to set the record straight. I didn’t like the first vote, but there were 8 years when I didn’t like a lot and it doesn’t push me to make things up.
Paul
September 24th, 2009
1:34 pm
Public Option
[[It is just mind boggling amazing to see Republicans like Snowe, Graslly and Ensign arguing to continue to deprive older people of meds they need.]]
Do you have a source for that? Because it’s the Democratic plan coming out of the Senate Finance Committee that doesn’t close the donut hole.
That’s not true Paul as far as the only committee left doing markup on Healthcare, Senate Finance:
There was one amendment so far with many to come–and I was able to catch the vote during lunch.
It was Senator Bill Nelson’s bill to close the donut by adjusting the pharmaceutical company fee from the ridiculous deal that the Senate Finance Six (BDs and Repubs) made with Emanuel and Biden and Billy Tauzin representing the drug makers. There are many amendments by Dems to trash the egregious deal which will be argued during the next two weeks in Senate Finance:
I have dozens of sources for that including the Senate Finance Committee’s posting of bills and votes.
Contrary to what you’d like to think Paul, I don’t make up votes of commitees when they are all eventually posted on the Senate or House’s site. I would have no reason to.
I am happy to post the contributions from Pharma and Insurance to Blue Dogs and Republicans. I’ve done it here, and they are on open secrets (Jay’s filter allows only 2 links and sometimes its so crazy and erratic it allows none; Cynthia’s allows none). They are huge and they are designed to maintain high drug prices to keep the donut open and high insurance company prices to continue to gouge middle class Americans and the poor.
Public Option's Doing Swell
September 24th, 2009
3:54 pm
At 1:34PM Paul raised some question about the Medicare donut and which party made amendments to close it in the only committee completing their markup of the five with health care bills, suggesting Imake votes up and I’m happy to set the record straight. I didn’t like the resullt of the first vote, but there were 8 years when I didn’t like a lot and it doesn’t push me to make things up. The vote was a favor returned by the Blue Dogs and Republicans who are heavily paid by pharmaceutical companies to keep drugs out of the hands of seniors whose lives depend upon them.
Mrs. Godzilla
September 24th, 2009
3:56 pm
Paul
yes I understand…..but what is critical is the safety of the US
not the specific method by which that security is gained.
there usually is more than one way to remove the fur from a feline.
For his taking the time to do the right thing the right way we admire him.
md
September 24th, 2009
3:56 pm
“I think a world without nuclear weapons is a grand ideal.”
So is the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, but we all know it isn’t there and never will be.
Curious Observer
September 24th, 2009
3:57 pm
Aw, Jay. I hate my hopes up for a really intelligent zinger or two from Dusty. Then you had to go and free that unimaginative tripe.
Taxpayer
September 24th, 2009
3:57 pm
there usually is more than one way to remove the fur from a feline.
And all this time I thought that boiling was the only way. Learn something new every day.
Paul
September 24th, 2009
4:00 pm
Public Option 3:50
Thank you, but… Senate Finance Chairman Baucus and Sen Menendez and another Democrat voted with Republicans and you solely fault Republicans?!!?
I did not read this as eliminating the donut hole for any other than low-income seniors. The donut hole would have remained for the vast number of seniors.
whistling dixie
September 24th, 2009
4:02 pm
Ohhhhh Dusty …. I bet wingnut Wingfield or the other right wing nut job WOOTEN wouldn’t put your silly comments on hold….
Go back to their sleepfests.
Good riddance…………………………………..
Taxpayer
September 24th, 2009
4:02 pm
So is the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, but we all know it isn’t there and never will be.
It is so there and you know it! You just want it all to yourself. That’s not nice.
Paul
September 24th, 2009
4:03 pm
Mrs. Godzilla
[[but what is critical is the safety of the US
not the specific method by which that security is gained.
there usually is more than one way]]
I think that’s trying a bit too hard to put a fine face on it.
There is no other option at this point other than what Pres Obama wants to do. I understood many on the Left want us gone, period. If that is true, then they don’t think the Pres is correct in saying Afghanistan is critical to our security.
Or are you saying many on the Left are fine with staying win Afg for a long, long, time, just so long as we don’t send more troops there?
Taxpayer
That was sick. Funny, but sick!!!
Mrs. Godzilla
September 24th, 2009
4:06 pm
Paul
I don’t agree that there is no other option. I suspect none of us the left do.
We don’t believe in the kobayashi maru scenario.
Taxpayer
September 24th, 2009
4:06 pm
Paul, I know. Isn’t it great. As for your thoughts of the world being comprised of nothing but If…then’s, what if I said or else.
Mrs. Godzilla
September 24th, 2009
4:07 pm
Taxpayer
Blanch your maters not your pets! They freeze so much better.
Taxpayer
September 24th, 2009
4:08 pm
Oops, I see that Mrs. G at 4:06 already picked up on Paul’s attempted restriction of the issues to one of two choices. I’m reminded of the difference between 52% and 48% for some reason.
Public Option's Doing Swell
September 24th, 2009
4:08 pm
Paul–
I’ve been very consistent and explicit in saying that the hooker john relationship is between Blue Dogs and between Republicans at all times.
However, you noted Senator Menendez voted against closing the donut and allowing seniors not to have to decide between groceries and meds.
I’m delighted to explain why. Approximately 90% of the pharmaceutical industries are located in Northern New Jersey. Senator Robert Menedez has a website where he says he is standing up for New Jersey families and he is. He’s standing up for the rich New Jersey families whose breadwinner is employed as a pharmaceutical executive because they can afford to be active members ot he Escort service he runs.
The seniors in New Jersey have a large bell shaped curve of middle income and poor people. They don’t contribute hundreds of thousands of dollars to Senator Menendez.
But I’m sure you knew that. This is about whether the pharmaceutical companies make billions and Menedez continues to receive millions from them and he wants to keep the hooker john relationship intact.
Thanks for asking. And the vote did occur. I follow this closely because I’m sick and tired of seniors not being able to get the drugs we Rx for ‘em.
And you should be concerned about it as well.
In this instance Senator Menendez behaved as a Blue Dog–cause bribery remains vibrant in the Senate.
Taxpayer
September 24th, 2009
4:10 pm
Mrs. G,
I was hoping for a rhyme. Something like,
Blanch your maters, not your taters.
Store your spuds so they won’t be duds.
AmVet
September 24th, 2009
4:11 pm
Wall Street paid for Obama’s presidency. And they demand that the profitable occupations continue. So being the good little corporatist he is, BHO takes his marching orders from Boeing, General Dynamics, Raytheon and Haliburton ad nauseum.
And the fascist coddlers, chickenhawks and neo-cons won’t even salute him…
Mrs. Godzilla
September 24th, 2009
4:13 pm
Taxpayer
How about the worlds shortest poem…..
Fleas
by Ogden Nash
Adam had ‘em.
So much for todays episode of poetry corner….
Public Option's Doing Swell
September 24th, 2009
4:16 pm
@ Paul
I’ll diagram the connection. Menendez—>Pharmma tight relationship since 1992 when he became a Conressman and got more expensive for pharma when he became a Senator aka VIP hooker.
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2009/08/contributions-from-health-sect.html
•Fourteen lawmakers didn’t collect any money from the health sector in the first quarter, but managed to do so during the second quarter, including House Education and Labor member Phil Roe (R-Tenn.), who brought in $25,200 between April and June; New Democrat Coalition member Rep. Suzanne Kosmas (D-Fla.), who collected $23,700 during the second quarter; and Senate Finance member Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), whose haul totaled $18,900 over the second quarter.
Mr. Menendez has been in the Senate for 3 years, and he was in the House for 14 years during which time he took in hundreds of thousands of bucks regularly from the pharma companies totaling in the millions.
md
September 24th, 2009
4:16 pm
If he was truly a “corporatist”, he wouldn’t be in bed with the unions.
Try again.
Taxpayer
September 24th, 2009
4:18 pm
Mrs. G,
There’s always illustrated short stories.
“The Outhouse”
written by Will E. Makeit
illustrated by Betty Dont
Taxpayer
September 24th, 2009
4:21 pm
Politicians are in bed with whomever is supplying the money and with whomever has the dirt on then. If they’re clean, then there is always someone trying to make them dirty, etc.
Dusty
September 24th, 2009
4:22 pm
Well, I can’t help but wonder if Gen. McChrystal would be a lot more enthusiastic if he knew his troops were being supported at home.
It might also help if the President expressed strong support instead of making namby pamby speeches at the UN, the school house, and late TV glitz productions. Obama shows about as much interest in Afghanistan as a child interested in spinach for lunch.
Meanwhile, Americans sitting at home are pulling petals off a daisy saying “Bing em home, YES and “Bring ‘em home, NO.” YES! NO!
How would you feel in rocks and sand, 100 degree heat, 75 lbs. on your back, bullets flyng in all directions, ieds in the sand and the folks at home sucking their thumbs about the “poor guys” in Afghanistan? Our military figure they are fighting for what we started in Afghanistan and they are there to finish the job.
And, in case you forgot…….
I think we better get some support going here and get it there quickly. Nobody in the military likes to cut’n'run.. At least, not the ones I know..We could show some appreciation for their sacrifices . ****They are gettting killed for us.****
AmVet
September 24th, 2009
4:22 pm
Interesting non-analysis md, please do expound…
Taxpayer
September 24th, 2009
4:25 pm
Dusty,
Do you support the top man over the military. You don’t sound like you do.
Mrs. Godzilla
September 24th, 2009
4:27 pm
SHHHHH everybody……don’t tell Redneck Convert but…..
Karl Rove: Will Beer Industry Be Next To Face Obama’s Anti-Profit Agenda?
here:
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/karl-rove-will-beer-industry-be-next-to-face-obamas-anti-profit-agenda.php
md
September 24th, 2009
4:32 pm
If using the definition of the promotion of the interests of private business corporations in government over the interests of the public, a corporatist would have nothing to do with an inefficient union. It would contradict the goal of profit.
Taxpayer
September 24th, 2009
4:33 pm
Mrs. G,
It sounds like Karl, like so many of his brethren, has something against non-profits. He seems to think that every company should just be out to make as much as they can off others. That is just so narrow-minded. What if people want to just help others by sharing their profits or just by not making tons of money off other’s misery. Shouldn’t people have that right.
Hef
September 24th, 2009
4:34 pm
A world without nuclear arms is a nice thought,but how realistic is it. Who would you trust to disarm or dissolve any ongoing programs? I can name three right off the top my head who I believe would’nt agree or adhere to any such agreement.Also Pres Obama is challenging the world for peace,again nice thought but not realistic. In the history of man,has there ever been a time of world peace?
Mrs. Godzilla
September 24th, 2009
4:36 pm
Dusty
Just to let you in on a little secret……we all do support the troops.
To infer otherwise is sick and twisted.
AmVet
September 24th, 2009
4:37 pm
A nonsensical opinion.
But thank you.
Taxpayer
September 24th, 2009
4:37 pm
Hef,
history is made every day. Join us in a nuke-free world. Say Yes we can. Break out of the war monger mode. It doe not have to be. Set your mind free.
Public Option's Doing Swell
September 24th, 2009
4:38 pm
Dusty I can’t help wondering where General Dusty plans to get the 400,000 troops that would be necessary to nation build in Afghanistan, and if General Dusty has any grandchildren you are pushing and calling Chambliss and Issacson and the wingnuts in the House to enact a draft so the Dusty grandchildren, neices, and nephews can all be drafted to Afghanistan?
I’m a little unclear on your precise plan and objectives in Afghanistan and Iraq other than to say “over there is the good fight.” Who’ve you lined up to fight it?
Or is Ambassador Dusty talked all of the countries besides the US who have said “we ain’t goin there to be blown up?”
Or does General Dusty plan to run the nation building in Afghanistan via Tampa Florida software launched predator drone? A lot of nation building doesn’t happen via drone.
The Russians had hundreds of thousands of troops there and they retreated. So right now the President has told McCrystal he doesn’t know if he wants to go up to 64,000. There were about 60,000 Russians killed over 10 years there.
Mrs. Godzilla
September 24th, 2009
4:40 pm
Hef
“What the mind of man can conceive and believe, It can achieve.”
I know YOU are not an underachiever!
Public Option's Doing Swell
September 24th, 2009
4:40 pm
Hef do you know where the loose Soviet nukes are right now?
Dusty
September 24th, 2009
4:40 pm
Dear Taxpayer,
Of course I support the Commander-in- Chief, just like you supported our former Commander-in-Chief George W. Bush. Just respect, sir. Just respect.
Mrs. G,,
Please don’t mention fleas or any other biting insects. I stepped on an ant’s next yesterday and four of the little devils stung me. My foot looks like a big red roll with five toes. I may apply for a football kicker position. I couldn’t miss the ball with this foot.
Err bloggers, please excuse my secret admirer WHISTLING DIXIE. His momma did not teach him any manners. The poor boy never learns.
Paul
September 24th, 2009
4:41 pm
Public Option 3:52
The reason I said it didn’t eliminate the donut hole was the source you provided spoke only of purchasing drugs for low-income seniors.
[[Contrary to what you’d like to think Paul, I don’t make up votes of commitees]]
No need to start sounding like other bloggers here.
your 3:54
[[Paul raised some question about the Medicare donut and which party made amendments to close it in the only committee completing their markup of the five with health care bills, suggesting Imake votes up and I’m happy to set the record straight.]]
What I asked was why, when Democrats voted with Republicans to reject the amendment, your initial post cited only Republicans?
I just read your 4:08. That explains it fine. But it did start out as a bit partisan. And yes, Pres Obama has agreements with both Big Pharma and Insurance. Who stand to make gazillions if this goes through. My opinion is both sides hose us. Remember, I apply BOHICA without regard to party affiliation!
Taxpayer 4:06
[[As for your thoughts of the world being comprised of nothing but If…then’s, what if I said or else.]]
Now who’s putting words in someone else’s mouth, hmmmm?
But IF you said that, THEN I’d ask, or else what?
Public Option's Doing Swell
September 24th, 2009
4:41 pm
Supporting the troops is getting all of the people on their 3rd and 4th tour of duty who are national gaurd back to their families in the US before more of them are dead, or paralyzed, or divorced.
Hef
September 24th, 2009
4:42 pm
MsGodzilla-@4:13,that would have brought down the house at J.R. Cricketts open mike night.
Normal
September 24th, 2009
4:43 pm
A world without Nucs? I say guve everybody nucs and when the reality sets in, it will be like the old dueling days, everybody will be extrea polite.
——————–
Dusty, it seems you have a stalker here, you have arrived! But don’t forget, you belong to me
Taxpayer
September 24th, 2009
4:44 pm
Of course I support the Commander-in- Chief, just like you supported our former Commander-in-Chief George W. Bush.
That’s good to know, Dusty. After all, I voted for Bush. So, you voted for Obama, eh!
Paul
September 24th, 2009
4:45 pm
Public Option 4:38
[[Dusty I can’t help wondering where General Dusty plans to get the 400,000 troops that would be necessary to nation build in Afghanistan,]]
Seems to me General McChrystal supported his Commander in Chief, who told him “this is what I want to do. Tell me what it will take.” Gen M did so (I think your number’s off by a factor of ten or so). Now the CiC’s stalling.
So it would appear Dusty is supporting the General who’s supporting the President. So Dusty is supporting the President. Unlike some.
Taxpayer
September 24th, 2009
4:46 pm
Paul,
I’ll stand by my and Mrs.G’s understanding that you failed to acknowledge anything more than the existence of an IF…Then scenario.
Dusty
September 24th, 2009
4:46 pm
Mz. G,
Don’t keep it a secret.. Tell the troops. They’d love to know about all that support.
Mrs. Godzilla
September 24th, 2009
4:46 pm
Dusty
I use soap and water to get the area clean immediately, then crush an aspirin with a drop or two of water applying the paste on the bite as a topical anesthetic and then pop an over the counter antihistime. (more than a couple of bites and this old body reacts badly)
Then I get a cold beer and let Mr. G finish the yard work, (most important step)
Hef
September 24th, 2009
4:47 pm
Taxpayer & MsGodzilla-I applaud your hearts,but as you can see even on this blog peace is not attainable.
Mrs. Godzilla
September 24th, 2009
4:48 pm
Hef
The credit goes to Sr. Mary Helene, BVM, American Lit instructor and former Miss California (sometime in the 50’s)……one great looking nun.
N.J.
September 24th, 2009
4:49 pm
Considering that the best intelligence not only has Bin Laden not in Afghanistan, but also no longer in Pakistan. Best guess is that he took a slow boat to Yemen from the Makran coast of Baluchistan.
The region simply got too hot for him and he likely boarded one of the small fishing boats that ply the gulf between the south of Pakistan and the western coast of the Arabian peninsula. In any case, there is no evidence that he is anywhere our troops are.
Hef
September 24th, 2009
4:49 pm
Public Option@4:40-Funny you ask,last night when the water recinded in my back yard…………..
Mrs. Godzilla
September 24th, 2009
4:52 pm
Hef
I’d like to think that the work for peace will never end…..
Think of it this way.
100 years war. We don’t make ‘em that long anymore.
WWI and WWII millions died.
Vietnam 55M died.
Iraq war 4350 to date
Afghanistan war 830 to date
We are getting better at peace.
AmVet
September 24th, 2009
4:54 pm
This fact is irrefutable. The majority of Americans are now opposed to Quagmire Part Deux.
We are sick of seeing our best and bravest die so that the military industrial complex can justify it’s self-serving profits.
BHO is another fool in a never growing long line of them.
Unless the neo-cons vote for him en masse in 2012, he may just be a one and done…
Normal
September 24th, 2009
4:55 pm
Menu tonight at Normal’s house, Baked dijon chicken and a veggie medley,and chicken broth rice. I was going to use the grill, but it’s spittin’ here so I’ll use the oven. The veggie dish is sliced maters, carrots, broccoli, and onion, wrapped in tin foil and steamed with butter and lime juice, and just a grind of sea salt and pepper corn.
)smothered in dijon mustard and mayo, then dredged in a combo of breadcrumbs, parmesan cheese, tyme and pepper.
super yummy
Rice cooked with chicken broth, and the boneless skinless chicken breast (yes, I’m a breast man
Served with a fine wine and a slice of homemade pumpkin pie. The wife will reward me later on…
have a great evening y’all…
AmVet
September 24th, 2009
4:55 pm
“in a never growing”
Redact to read: in an ever growing
Normal
September 24th, 2009
4:55 pm
OH, I forgot the squash with the veggies, silly me…
md
September 24th, 2009
4:55 pm
“New UN resolution aims at nuclear-free world”
And the next one will be aimed at removing all evil from the planet.
Good luck with that.
Mrs. Godzilla
September 24th, 2009
4:57 pm
Normal….don’t forget to pound your breasts a bit to tenderize them!
Try them some time wrapped in maple Bacon (um, bacon) grilled and basted with your fav BBQ sauce!
AmVet
September 24th, 2009
4:59 pm
“Normal….don’t forget to pound your breasts a bit to tenderize them!”
I know it is sophomoric, but man, the mental image of that is funny!
Paul
September 24th, 2009
5:03 pm
Taxpayer 4:46
[[I’ll stand by my and Mrs.G’s understanding that you failed to acknowledge anything more than the existence of an IF…Then scenario.]]
Let me try it this way. One step at a time. No trick questions. Just trying to understand where you’re coming from.
Do you think the mission in Afghanistan is critical to protecting the US?
Hef
September 24th, 2009
5:03 pm
MsGodzill@4:57-I found that recipe a few weeks ago and tried it-excellent!!!!!!!!!!!
Public Option's Doing Swell
September 24th, 2009
5:05 pm
Paul–
Do you know where the troops come from to get to the level that does nation building in Afghanistan into the hundreds of thousands, because I ran out of countries on the planet earth who would supply them.
My information is that Obama told McCrystal he’s not ready to send more troops to get into the 80,000’s McCrystal wants before going up at several incremental marks to levels we don’t have in the future.
I don’t see anything wrong with not agreeing with the Pres when you have thought it over and don’t.
I don’t agree with Obama on his federal appellate filings which are just like Bush’s or worse.
I don’t agree that we can nation build in Afghanistan right now Paul–and when we talk about Afghan we are talking about Pakistan as well.
Troops cost 30% more in Afg/Pak than Iraq. And in all those places right now we have close to double the contractors and we’re paying the contractors much more and I know you realize this.
I’m not following troop totals fanatically, but I think soon there will be 68,000 according to what I read below.
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/21/how-many-troops-to-secure-afghanistan/?scp=1&sq=afghanistan%20troops&st=cse
It doesn’t seem like there is a lot of support the way the GI Bill for education is being executed–it looks like bait and switch to me:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/25/education/25vets.html?_r=1&hp
whistling dixie
September 24th, 2009
5:05 pm
normal…you are becoming about as relevant as Dusty…..Who cares what you are having for dinner?
Hef
September 24th, 2009
5:07 pm
MsGodzilla-Here’s another,Sirloin Tip Roast plugged with garlic/butter chunks.Slow cooked with dry onion soup,Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Normal
September 24th, 2009
5:11 pm
whistling dixie
September 24th, 2009
What? Can’t cook? Poor baby…
Normal
September 24th, 2009
5:14 pm
AmVet, I did what Mrs G said and pounded my breast…GAWD, did that hurt! What? You mean…
Paul
September 24th, 2009
5:14 pm
Public Option
[[I don’t see anything wrong with not agreeing with the Pres when you have thought it over and don’t.]]
That’s where you’re different. My impression is there are many who will resist at all costs in saying “Pres Obama is wrong.” We’ve already seen some cracks in this when it comes to rendition, warrantless wiretaps, etc, but even that didn’t get as much play as it did with the previous administration. But on Afghanistan, I think we’ll see a lot of rather contradictory statements from many of his supporters.
And in my opinion, one reason we went so wrong in Iraq is because the military hated nation building, wanted nothing to do with it, resisted planning for it, didn’t want to talk about it. That’s why we had those tv images of looting Iraquis and American soldiers standing around going “huh? you want me to do something?!!?”
Dusty
September 24th, 2009
5:16 pm
Normal, valentine, you sweep me off my feet!! But I can hardly see you for that big ol’ sign you keep carrying around and shouting about! But you’re a sweet one.! My household is full of them and I love em all! Cheers, brave prince of hearts.
whistling dixie
September 24th, 2009
5:16 pm
Oh, I can cook NORMAL but I don’t feel the need to share my meals with bloggers who I don’t know,
This is after all not a cooking blog! Don’t you have anything of substence to contribute?
BTW Normal You are supposedly a guy and you call me poor baby? HaHaHaHa!
Taxpayer
September 24th, 2009
5:18 pm
md
September 24th, 2009
4:55 pm
“New UN resolution aims at nuclear-free world”
And the next one will be aimed at removing all evil from the planet.
Good luck with that
Thank you but it may take even more than luck. Let’s actually work toward that goal. Just say no to war.
Public Option's Doing Swell
September 24th, 2009
5:21 pm
I disagree Paul. We did plenty of nation building trials and wasted 3 trillion plus bucks in Iraq. And Obama has told McCrystal recently that although he has the exact same players in place as Bush (McCrystal was moved from Pentagon to Afg command–slight tweak) that he’s not going to rubber stamp what he and Patraeus want to do that has failed with Biush.
Right now Obama has said what he wants to do with Afghan–he hasn’t sent any Iraq troops home–we have double the amount of contractors in both–Afghan troop is 30% more costly than Iraq.
Obama hasn’t been specific about what he wants in Afghanistan as yet; nor has he been specific on health care.
In Afghanistan McCrystal’s troop requests are in the “let me get back to ya” file as of last week.
Public Option's Doing Swell
September 24th, 2009
5:28 pm
I’d also add that in Iraq there wasn’t a functioning competent Iraq military counterpart and there isn’t one in Afghanistan and Pakistan now.
The WaPo also held up McCrystal’s plan from publication as outlined by Boecb Woodward. I just got a box up that said “stop spell checking.” Never saw that before here.
So Paul you want a draft stat correct? Let’s get ‘er done goshdarnit.
Another link for the Bill Nelson amendment to close the donut hole that all Repubs, Blue Dogs and Menendez voted for turning a trick for their pharmaceutical johns.
http://www.politico.com/livepulse/0909/Nelson_PhRMA_amendment_now_has_a_cost_estimate.html#comments