Surprise! South isn’t like the rest of the country

Last week, Steve Benen of the Washington Monthly put together an interesting chart using results of a weekly nationwide Research 2000 poll. He took the question “Do you have a favorable view of the Republican Party?” and charted the results by region.

R2K_GOP

As the Cookie Monster might note, one of these regions is very much not like the other.

While public attitudes toward the GOP are largely positive here in the South, they are very much negative in the rest of the country. Just 7 percent of voters polled in the Northeast think favorably toward the Republican Party, and numbers in the Midwest (13 percent) and West (14 percent) aren’t much better.

Not surprisingly, charting favorability toward the Democrats would produce a mirror image of Benen’s chart. While just 41 percent of voters think favorably of Democrats, and 50 percent perceive it unfavorably, those national numbers vary widely by region. In the Northeast, 62 percent view the Democrats favorably, while just 20 percent do so in the South.

The poll was done for the liberal DailyKos site, which will no doubt taint it in the eyes of some. But the national numbers it produces track closely with other polls, suggesting that it is not an outlier. Nationally, Research 2000 put Barack Obama’s favorability rating at 54 percent, while the average of major polls at Pollster.com puts it at 53.6 percent. (Here in the South, Research 2000 put Obama’s favorability number at  just 27 percent, with 67 percent viewing him unfavorably.)

The standard question of whether the country is headed in the right direction or is on the wrong track also suggests the Research 2000 findings are in the mainstream. Its results put the numbers at 40 percent right direction, 54 percent wrong track, while the poll average at Pollster puts it at 38.6 percent right direction, 54 percent wrong track. In other words,  the poll “trues up” pretty well.

And yes, we here in the South are considerably more pessimistic about the country’s direction than our fellow Americans. Just 30 percent say we’re headed in the right direction, while 63 percent say we’re on the wrong track.

450 comments Add your comment

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

September 22nd, 2009
8:39 am

Train running late this morning, bookman?

And you are right, Daily Kooks polls are for the, um, kooks.

We live in the real world.

Taxpayer

September 22nd, 2009
8:44 am

I must say that graphic tell the whole story even without any numbers. The Republicans have been fingered out.

USinUK

September 22nd, 2009
8:44 am

you know, if GA actually got it’s head out of it’s collective keister and had Sunday alcohol sales, the view of where the country was heading would turn right around …

godless heathen

September 22nd, 2009
8:46 am

And Obama got 52% of the vote nationally. Says something about his appeal doesn’t it?

USinUK

September 22nd, 2009
8:47 am

“And Obama got 52% of the vote nationally. Says something about his appeal doesn’t it?”

yep. says folks like him more than they liked W

TnGelding

September 22nd, 2009
8:49 am

Secede!

We’re a fickle lot. We thought the country was headed in the wrong direction under Bush, too, by much larger numbers, tho. Obo will get us turned around.

New motto: AUSTERITY!

How anyone could view the GOP favorably is beyond me. And ditto for the Democrats.

Doggone/GA

September 22nd, 2009
8:50 am

What’s interesting to me is how close the yes and no are in the South as compared to the other areas.

TnGelding

September 22nd, 2009
8:51 am

USinUK

September 22nd, 2009
8:47 am

Or was it fewer folks disliked him?

stands for decibels

September 22nd, 2009
8:53 am

huh huh…

Jay said “taint.”

Mrs. Godzilla

September 22nd, 2009
8:54 am

Jay! You’re pullin’ our legs!

We know you weren’t really surprised! Anybody who has traveled out
of Dixie knows there is a great big beautiful world out there that the South is only a small dusty corner of.

Taxpayer…..quite a perceptive observation.

TnGelding

September 22nd, 2009
8:55 am

Doggone/GA

September 22nd, 2009
8:50 am

Interesting? What about embarrassing? The unsure vote is larger, as well.

USinUK

September 22nd, 2009
8:55 am

TnG

8:51

that, too.

Peadawg

September 22nd, 2009
8:55 am

Godzilla, if you hate the south so much…leave!

Doggone/GA

September 22nd, 2009
8:59 am

“What about embarrassing?”

Why is it embarrasing?

Mrs. Godzilla

September 22nd, 2009
9:02 am

Peadawg

Please show me where I said I hate the south.

If you can’t (and you can’t) go play in a swamped septic system you twit.

godless heathen

September 22nd, 2009
9:02 am

With such a disparity, you would think that Obama would have garnered more than 52% of the vote. This suggests that the Research 2000 poll is a bunch of crap.

stands for decibels

September 22nd, 2009
9:02 am

And Obama got 52% of the vote nationally.

I know I’m nitpicking but… you always know you’re dealing with a real special kind of entrenched denial when someone chooses to round 52.92 DOWN, to 52.

Peadawg

September 22nd, 2009
9:03 am

“South is only a small dusty corner of.”

I took that as you don’t like the South very much….I put words in your mouth like y’all do to me all the frigin time

Peadawg

September 22nd, 2009
9:04 am

And we’ve already started the name calling…that didn’t take long.

TnGelding

September 22nd, 2009
9:05 am

Doggone/GA

September 22nd, 2009
8:59 am

That so many of us are that intractable after 8 years of total incompetence and miserable failure.

Mrs. Godzilla

September 22nd, 2009
9:05 am

Peadawg

You took it as?? You took it as?

Find the sawmp dude, and dive.

Also show me where I ever put words in your mouth (a gaping hole no human would approach to be sure) and I’ll give you a floaty for the swamp.

Twit.

godless heathen

September 22nd, 2009
9:06 am

Sorry, dB, I guess I misremembered. 52 or 53? BFD, point stands. Your wildly popular President got 2.92% of the vote more than the old guy who picked the dumb broad to run with him.

Mrs. Godzilla

September 22nd, 2009
9:06 am

Peadawg

Starting name calling?

How about false accusations?

Take some personal responsibility.

USinUK

September 22nd, 2009
9:07 am

“With such a disparity, you would think that Obama would have garnered more than 52% of the vote. This suggests that the Research 2000 poll is a bunch of crap.”

you’re confusing opinions about a party with opinions about a person. just because people have a more positive opinion of Democrats in general doesn’t mean they’ll automatically vote for Obama for president.

nice try, though.

Doggone/GA

September 22nd, 2009
9:07 am

“That so many of us are that intractable after 8 years of total incompetence and miserable failure”

Sorry, I see it much more positively. To me, it reads like the GOP is very close to losing the South…just as they have lost the rest of the country.

Mrs. Godzilla

September 22nd, 2009
9:07 am

Peadawg

Now try the topic at hand, if you can.

TnGelding

September 22nd, 2009
9:07 am

Mrs. Godzilla

September 22nd, 2009
8:54 am

Well, I’ve got to admit, I was thinking maybe you should be looking for greener pastures myself. But I know you really love it here. It’s just some of the inhabitants that annoy you.

Peadawg

September 22nd, 2009
9:08 am

Dang someone’s panties are in a wad early this morning! LOL! This could be a fun day seeing your responses to my comments.

Bob from Dahlonega

September 22nd, 2009
9:10 am

I have a triple wide for sale up here. its in a nice Christian conservative trailer park no immigrants or liberals allowed.
anyone interested let me know. I have a four wheeler and some old confederate flags for sale also.

Road Scholar

September 22nd, 2009
9:10 am

I thought that the red in the graph was also the relative SAT scores in this country by region!

Peadawg; Why should Mrs G leave….I thought that ya’ll were going to secede and move to Texas?

Taxpayer

September 22nd, 2009
9:11 am

I imagine there are more people here in the south who are not liking the south too much right about now. Of course, those that bought flood insurance and need it now can be rejoicing because, unlike other insurance, flood insurance is backed by the fed. So, when you need it, it will be there for you. They won’t dump you.

Peadawg

September 22nd, 2009
9:11 am

Ok topic at hand…..

IMO this pole indicates that the rest of country has gone to hell in a hand basket a loooong time ago. If we keep believing gibberish from the Democrats, the South may be gone soon….sadly.

Lord help this country please!!!

Mrs. Godzilla

September 22nd, 2009
9:11 am

Peadawg

We can all see that yours are…..it reminds me of the joke about the two old guys on the beach and the potato…..

Joan

September 22nd, 2009
9:11 am

Republicans suffer from baggage, and lack of leadership. I am a conservative. I am not an anti-abortionist or a social demagogue. There are many of us who just want to try to keep some of our own hard earned dollars in our pocket to provide for our own old age. If people want to act like fools on game shows, or have same sex relations, well, so long as I am not paying for it, I don’t care. Where is the party for the conservative? And where is the rational spokeman? Mitt Romney was my pick, but the religious right killed his chances, and look what they got instead.

Normal

September 22nd, 2009
9:11 am

Y’all remember this?
And I went up there, I said, ‘Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill, KILL, KILL.’ And I started jumpin up and down yelling, ‘KILL, KILL,’ and he started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down yelling, ‘KILL, KILL.’ And the sargent came over, pinned a medal on me, sent me down the hall, said, ‘You’re our boy.’
——————-
Don’t know why it is, but everytime I think of politicians of any stripe
I start humming “Alice’s Restaurant”…Am I sick, doctor? ;-)

TnGelding

September 22nd, 2009
9:12 am

godless heathen

September 22nd, 2009
9:02 am

Democrats aren’t held in much higher esteem. That and some could never vote for an inexperienced, foreign-born Muslim.

Peadawg

September 22nd, 2009
9:12 am

“Peadawg; Why should Mrs G leave….I thought that ya’ll were going to secede and move to Texas?”

I never said or agreed with that. That’s actually a pretty retarded idea. Thanks for putting words in my mouth…try again.

Mrs. Godzilla

September 22nd, 2009
9:12 am

Taxpayer

Isn’t flood insurance MANDATED in some areas?

Joey

September 22nd, 2009
9:13 am

Abandon hope all yee who give credence to a Daily Kos poll.
Or:
Surprise! Daily Kos is not like the rest of the country.

Peadawg

September 22nd, 2009
9:13 am

“and lack of leadership”

Kind of like the community organizer we have in office that is in waaaaaay over his head.

Mrs. Godzilla

September 22nd, 2009
9:14 am

Peadawg

September 22nd, 2009
9:15 am

“Isn’t flood insurance MANDATED in some areas?”

I think I remember my loan officer talking about this back in May when we bought our house…I think it is depending on what kind of loan you get.

Mrs. Godzilla

September 22nd, 2009
9:15 am

What part of the two polls say the same thing did some folks miss?

Mrs. Godzilla

September 22nd, 2009
9:16 am

Peadawg

I think its related to location. Flood plain lines and such.

Couldn’t get a mortgage in certain areas of Jackson MS without it.

Peadawg

September 22nd, 2009
9:16 am

HAHAHAHA nice joke Godzilla. Hilarious!

Road Scholar

September 22nd, 2009
9:16 am

IR/YW: At least Jay shows up! Where has Kyle been? Also Kyle seems to be stuck in proposing “softballs” versus Jay’s multiple posts each day.

TnGelding

September 22nd, 2009
9:17 am

Doggone/GA

September 22nd, 2009
9:07 am

Save your Dubya dollars boys, the South will rise again! Not as long as NASCAR and football are more important than academics.

Jimmy62

September 22nd, 2009
9:17 am

What do you bet most of the margin was in California and New York? Coincidentally our two most bankrupt states. Obviously the people living there really know what they are doing. Not that the south is much better.

Joey

September 22nd, 2009
9:17 am

Jay;
Thanks for the laugh. I was a little down from dealing with water seeping into the basement of my home and into the lower level of our office.

This gem of yours gave me the laugh that I needed.

Peadawg

September 22nd, 2009
9:17 am

Ya that makes sense…not much of a change for a flood out here in Athens.

stands for decibels

September 22nd, 2009
9:18 am

Your wildly popular President got 2.92% of the vote more than the old guy who picked the dumb broad to run with him.

heh. That’s one way to look at it, sure. Or you could say that my wildly popular President got 2.2% more of the vote than the Great Communicator did in 1980.

that said, I would like to hear just what it is about this poll’s sampling or the way its questions were worded, that would indicate that there’s something amiss, and not simply that it was sponsored by the Orange Satan (or, as you seem to be indicating, that it’s produced numbers you don’t care for).

TnGelding

September 22nd, 2009
9:19 am

Taxpayer

September 22nd, 2009
9:11 am

No self-respecting conservative Southerner would accept any government subsidized insurance!

Brad Steel

September 22nd, 2009
9:20 am

With brilliant GOP debaters like South Carolina’s Joe Wilson, it is no surprise that southerners revere the GOP.

Well, it looks like the regional approval of republicans is highly correlated with low SAT scores, crappy high schools, and low college attendance rates.

cue douchebag: Delta is ready when you are, love it or leave it, or a quote for Amtrak prices, etc..

TnGelding

September 22nd, 2009
9:21 am

Peadawg

September 22nd, 2009
9:11 am

It ain’t that bad. It’s just awfully hard to govern. The GOP ain’t dead….yet.

thomas

September 22nd, 2009
9:21 am

Funny Jay, that an entire article is focused on how here in the south we are different than the rest of the country.

That point is fine, only one slight problem you merely gloss over the fact that the Northeast is the polar opposite of the south.

The numbers for the northeast were actually farther off from the rest of the country. Seems like actually only the west and midwest are alike.

Seems this poll is no different than what we already knew about people. This time it is broken down by geogaphy. But the fact remains that there are fringes on both sides. The dems. have the northeast, while the rep. have the south. Both are doing poorly in the west and mid west. Thus the west and midwset has presented itself as the center on this issue.

But nice attempt at linking southern, republican and the negative connotations associated with the south.

Just my take on the article presented today, and some of the facts that were unintentionally left out.

Taxpayer

September 22nd, 2009
9:23 am

Mrs. Godzilla

September 22nd, 2009
9:12 am
Taxpayer

Isn’t flood insurance MANDATED in some areas?

The government should mandate flood insurance for improved properties in flood plains but they do not. The mortgage companies require it.

TnGelding

September 22nd, 2009
9:23 am

Joan

September 22nd, 2009
9:11 am

I agree with you about Romney and the cause of his failure. That would have been a very interesting race. We needed someone with his grasp of how our economy works, not that Obama and his advisors don’t.

Mrs. Godzilla

September 22nd, 2009
9:25 am

is thomas looking at the same graph we are?

Road Scholar

September 22nd, 2009
9:26 am

Mrs. G, you are right. If you live in a floodplain, you must have flood insurance to get a loan. Flood plains are defined by the USGS and are figured on different design storms (10,50,100,and 500 yr storms); locally, the time of concentration used also has a large effect.

Unfortunately, with all the development and paved areas added, and the lack of dependable detention facilities, the floodplain is now more suseptible to rain events like we’ve had in GA.

TnGelding

September 22nd, 2009
9:26 am

Peadawg

September 22nd, 2009
9:13 am

Did you see my pre-primary analyses?

GEORGE AMERICAN

September 22nd, 2009
9:29 am

OK, LET’S DO THAT SUCESSION ROLE CALL AGAIN!!!

WE DO THINGS OUR WAY HERE IN THE SOUTH. IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT, SUCK IT, SOCIALISTS!!!

THE REST OF THE COUNTRY IS A BUNCH OF ELITIST BIG-GOVERNMENT, WHINING, NYTIMES-READING, UNION LIBERALS!!! WE DON’T WANT’EM HERE IN GOD’S COUNTRY!!!

TnGelding

September 22nd, 2009
9:32 am

thomas

September 22nd, 2009
9:21 am

You’d better take another look at the graph.

TnGelding

September 22nd, 2009
9:34 am

Road Scholar

September 22nd, 2009
9:26 am

…and drastically changing.

Finn McCool

September 22nd, 2009
9:34 am

HERE IN GOD’S COUNTRY!!!

Therein lies the problem, GEORGE!

Wingnutters are just EVIL, BATTY, RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALIST TERRORISTS!

Scooter

September 22nd, 2009
9:35 am

OK, LET’S DO THAT SUCESSION ROLE CALL AGAIN!!!
:roll:

Turd Ferguson

September 22nd, 2009
9:35 am

“Surprise! South isn’t like the rest of the country”

And that is supposed to be a bad thing?!

Peadawg

September 22nd, 2009
9:36 am

LOL Finn…now Republicans are terrorists?

Scooter

September 22nd, 2009
9:38 am

Finn, you left out TALIBAPTIST! :grin:

Normal

September 22nd, 2009
9:39 am

EnJoey

September 22nd, 2009
9:17 am

Joey, we have more in common than I thought. I too, was vacuuming water at 4:30 this morning…

Taxpayer

September 22nd, 2009
9:40 am

A little retro-spective on Georgia’s flood plains. If you build, it will change them, the flood plains, that is.

Bosch

September 22nd, 2009
9:40 am

Someone may have wrote this already, but it kind of looks like the other three regions are giving us the finger!

godless heathen

September 22nd, 2009
9:40 am

The Research 2000 poll as presented indicates an almost 6:1 unfavorable view of the Republican party in the populous areas of the country. That that only translates to a 2.92% margin of victory in the most recent national poll (the election) makes me suspicious of the Research 2000 poll.

And what this has to do with Reagan or Bush’s margin of victory is beyond me.

thomas

September 22nd, 2009
9:41 am

Mrs. Godzilla,
Yes I am looking at the same graph,

However I chose to not be lazy and looked at the actual poll. Through looking at the entire poll, and not just taking Jay’s word for it you will see I am correct about what I posted.

But I do understand that the information I presented does not go with the current of your political persuation. However I feel you will be too intellectually honest to argue that the NE is just as one sided as the south. Or is it ok to be one sided if they are right and think like you do?

Mrs. Godzilla

September 22nd, 2009
9:41 am

Peadawg

read his post again….
it says

Wingnutters are just EVIL, BATTY, RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALIST TERRORISTS!

then you say

now Republicans are terrorists?

So not wanting to put words in your cake hole…..are you saying
republicans are EVIL, BATTY, RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALIST TERRORISTS?

I don’t think so….

getalife

September 22nd, 2009
9:43 am

Mrs. Godzilla

September 22nd, 2009
9:43 am

again thomas you reading the same graph we are?

GEORGE AMERICAN

September 22nd, 2009
9:43 am

WELL MR. MCCOOL, YOU SEEM TO BE VERY ACCOMPLISHED NAME CALLER AND HATER OF ALL THINGS CONSERVATIVE.

WHY DON’T YOU MOVE BACK TO IRELAND, MR. BOOZEY MCLIVER-DAMAGE!!!

thomas

September 22nd, 2009
9:43 am

TNgelding and you may want to look at the entire poll and all of the questions.

Jay did an excellent job of tricking many of you simply by him knowing you would not go look at all of the questions of the poll.

You are correct though on the graphic jay decided to use for the piece does show the south being different. But hey the link is there if you actually care.

Normal

September 22nd, 2009
9:48 am

Well, all of these polls and graphs are just so much window dressing.
I personally think that we tear this political system up and start anew. You become a President, Get a seat in Congress via Mega Bucks…
You get all six, you’re the Prez, 5 out of 6, you’re a Senator, 4 out of 6, you’re in the House. State election can use Fantasy Five…

Scooter

September 22nd, 2009
9:48 am

Mrs. G, from all I have read on this blog site Repubs and wingnutters are one in the same. ??????

jconservative

September 22nd, 2009
9:48 am

This & other polls indicate the size of the Republican tent. This is still a problem for Republicans. McCain had a fairly large tent but the tent has gotten smaller since the election. (One caveat, this poll is a poll of the public, not voters.) The Republicans have a problem.

The Republican base is 28 electoral votes; states McCain carried by at least 60% of the vote. The Democratic base is 146 electoral votes; states Obama carried by at least 60% of the vote. The Republicans need to create 241 electoral votes to win in 2012. The Democrats need to create 123 electoral votes to keep the WH in 2012.

Where are the Republicans going to get the needed 241 electoral votes?

thomas

September 22nd, 2009
9:49 am

Mrs. Godzilla,
Here are some numbers for you, 82% really that seems in order with the rest of the nation………..

DEMOCRATIC PARTY
FAV UNFAV NO OPINION
ALL 41 50 9
MEN 35 56 9
WOMEN 47 44 9
DEM 71 22 7
REP 4 93 3
IND 38 53 9
OTH/REF 37 54 9
NON VOTERS 40 40 20
WHITE 32 61 7
BLACK 74 15 11
LATINO 52 31 17
OTHER/REF 52 30 18
18-29 56 35 9
30-44 27 61 12
45-59 48 46 6
60+ 38 53 9
NORTHEAST 62 26 12
SOUTH 20 70 10
MIDWEST 46 47 7
WEST 44 48 8

Generic Congressional Ballot
QUESTION: Would you like to see more Democrats or Republicans elected to Congress in 2010?
DEMOCRATS REPUBLICANS NOT SURE
ALL 34 28 38
MEN 27 34 39
WOMEN 41 22 37
DEM 75 5 20
REP 4 84 12
IND 20 17 63
OTH/REF 16 26 58
NON VOTERS 24 16 60
WHITE 25 34 41
BLACK 64 5 31
LATINO 48 22 30
OTHER/REF 50 16 34
18-29 50 7 43
30-44 25 40 35
45-59 37 24 39
60+ 30 34 36
NORTHEAST 49 9 42
SOUTH 21 45 34
MIDWEST 36 25 39
WEST 35 27 38

NANCY PELOSI
FAV UNFAV NO OPINION
ALL 34 58 8
MEN 20 71 9
WOMEN 48 45 7
DEM 73 18 9
REP 4 94 2
IND 22 72 6
OTH/REF 19 74 7
NON VOTERS 25 58 17
WHITE 32 66 2
BLACK 47 26 27
LATINO 30 50 20
OTHER/REF 32 47 21
18-29 43 49 8
30-44 23 62 15
45-59 41 57 2
60+ 33 61 6
NORTHEAST 50 40 10
SOUTH 19 77 4
MIDWEST 37 54 9
WEST 35 54 11

BARACK OBAMA
FAV UNFAV NO OPINION
ALL 55 38 7
MEN 48 46 6
WOMEN 62 30 8
DEM 85 7 8
REP 4 93 3
IND 58 35 7
OTH/REF 53 39 8
NON VOTERS 62 30 8
WHITE 46 47 7
BLACK 88 4 8
LATINO 67 28 5
OTHER/REF 66 27 7
18-29 79 16 5
30-44 43 48 9
45-59 63 30 7
60+ 41 53 6
NORTHEAST 82 10 8
SOUTH 27 67 6
MIDWEST 62 31 7
WEST 59 34 7

Mrs. Godzilla

September 22nd, 2009
9:53 am

thomas, I so admire your persistance and the erudite methods you use to get your point across. please continue.

TnGelding

September 22nd, 2009
9:54 am

thomas

September 22nd, 2009
9:43 am

Thanks, I’ll do that. Are you saying Jay misrepresented the poll?

Bosch

September 22nd, 2009
10:00 am

Scooter,

No, Republicans and wingnuts are not one in the same; at least not in the World According to Bosch.

Nothing is Free

September 22nd, 2009
10:03 am

** weekly nationwide Research 2000 poll**

What a friggin fascist coward. Bookman shows yet again he has no brain and no spine.

Posts a poll from the Daily Koss and tries to pass it off as a reliable poll.

And the sad thing is that the dolts here never took the time to look at where the poll originated.

It’s a good thing that Democrats are so dumb. Bookman would be bagging groceries if they weren’t.

TnGelding

September 22nd, 2009
10:03 am

thomas

September 22nd, 2009
9:43 am

Well, the graph looks accuate to me. The South is the one section that stands out. The NE is much closer to the MW and West. Maybe I’m missing your point.

Kamchak

September 22nd, 2009
10:03 am

Your wildly popular President got 2.92% of the vote more than the old guy who picked the dumb broad to run with.

IS THERE A MATHEMATICIAN IN THE HOUSE?

Election totals.

Total number of votes cast–131,032,799
Votes cast for Obama–69,297,007………………………52.9%
Votes cast for McCain–59,597,520………………………46.2%

52.9% — 46.2% = 7.5%

stands for decibels

September 22nd, 2009
10:04 am

I’m a little surprised that only 26% percent of Southerners are favorable of The Boehner.

and gh @ 9.40, points taken. I’ll just say this–

A snapshot of a poll like this is only useful if it’s tracked over time. It could be that national mood swings over party brand are more volatile than you or I imagine. Obviously a lot of people who voted for McCain or Obama didn’t do so just because they thought the Rs or the Ds were the cat’s pajamas; they vote for the person.
That said, I think a lot of people tend to forget that the Rs haven’t managed to win a plurality of popular votes in a Presidential election but once since 1992. I think they’ve had some skilled strategists working wedge issues to eke out their ongoing viability and who knows, maybe they can go on being a viable opposition party going forward by continuing to do that.

TnGelding

September 22nd, 2009
10:06 am

Nothing is Free

September 22nd, 2009
10:03 am

Excuse me, but I think he pointed that out.

“The poll was done for the liberal DailyKos site, which will no doubt taint it in the eyes of some. But the national numbers it produces track closely with other polls, suggesting that it is not an outlier”

Taxpayer

September 22nd, 2009
10:06 am

Normal at 9:48,

If you spent a buck on the lottery and your prize was a Congressional seat, tell me again what you won.

Mrs. Godzilla

September 22nd, 2009
10:06 am

Noting is free

please reread this from Jay’s post

“while the average of major polls at Pollster.com puts it at 53.6 percent.”

yes, Nothing is free…..education costs.

stands for decibels

September 22nd, 2009
10:07 am

IS THERE A MATHEMATICIAN IN THE HOUSE?

What can I say–he was on a roll. He had me at “Old guy who picked the dumb broad…”

Scooter

September 22nd, 2009
10:08 am

thomas,Mrs. G is a diehard believer in her ideology and nothing will sway her from that. so don’t waste your breath.( no offense intended Mrs.G)I would still love to come to your house for breakfast! :smile:

Taxpayer

September 22nd, 2009
10:09 am

thomas,

could you provide some graphs to go with those numbers. Pictures are easier to understand than all those columns of numbers.

GayGrayGeek

September 22nd, 2009
10:09 am

Mrs. G. @ 9:06 – Take some personal responsibility.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Don’t you remember? “Personal Responsibility” applies to Everyone Else, not Good Godly Republican’t’s like Larry Craig, Mark Sanford, lather, rinse, repeat.

Kamchak

September 22nd, 2009
10:09 am

Oops.

McCain 45.5%

52.9% – 46.2% = 6.7%

Taxpayer

September 22nd, 2009
10:12 am

I just saw sunlight.

Mrs. Godzilla

September 22nd, 2009
10:13 am

Scooter

Myself, I’m proud of being the latest in over 250 years of liberal American women in my family!

After a artery chokin’ vacation…..it’s granola and yougurt for a couple of weeks. But I got stash of some Amish applewood smoked bacon
hidden in the fridge from a little old butcher in PA. Yum.

Normal

September 22nd, 2009
10:15 am

Taxpayer

September 22nd, 2009
10:06 am
Normal at 9:48,

If you spent a buck on the lottery and your prize was a Congressional seat, tell me again what you won.

FREE HEALTHCARE!!! :lol: