Ding, dong, the ACORN witch is dead!
It looks as though the Republicans have finally succeeded in slaying their favorite bogeyman. Dastardly ACORN, that craven, contemptible coven of community organizers, that mighty scourge of all that is right and true, has been stripped of federal funding and left for dead at the side of the road.
Last week, the Census Bureau announced it would no longer contract with ACORN. Now, as Fox News reports, the House has passed The Defund ACORN Act, which prohibits any “federal contract grant, cooperative agreement or any other form of agreement (including a memorandum of understanding” from being awarded to ACORN.
On Monday, the Senate likewise voted to bar any funding of ACORN through the Department of Housing and Urban Development. Today, at the insistence of Sen. Mike Johanns, Republican from Nebraska, they also voted to bar ACORN funding through the Department of Interior, even though it was pointed out that the Interior budget bill contained no money for ACORN anyway.
As the New York Times reports the event:
“Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the California Democrat in charge of the bill … said she was perfectly willing to add (Johann’s) language to the measure and would be happy to do so without a roll call vote, which she assumed would turn out pretty much like the 83-7 vote against Acorn on Monday. That vote came after Acorn employees were videotaped offered advice to conservative activists posing as people interested in establishing a prostitution business.
Mr. Johanns, recognizing a political winner when he sees one, said he would want a roll call vote regardless. In fact, he insisted on it.
“This is such an important issue,” he said. “This is an issue that people all across the country are watching the Senate floor.” He said the Senate owed it to the public “to show them how we’re going to vote on this issue.”
There is no truth, or at least not much truth, to the report that Republicans also insisted on the removal of the letters A, C, O, R and N from the bill. That motion failed when it was pointed out that without an O or an R, you also couldn’t spell PORK.
By the count of GOP senators ACORN has received an amazingly grand total of $53 million in federal funding since 1994, which averages out to a whopping $3.53 million in federal dollars a year. It is remarkable that a group could do so much apparent evil, threatening the very basis of Western civilization, on such a small budget, but such is apparently the case.
However, while the bogeyman has been killed, the need for a bogeyman is eternal. Before ACORN there was Moveon.org, and after ACORN there will be …. something. Stay tuned, children.
At whom will the fickle finger of fomented fury point next?
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I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 17th, 2009
5:20 pm
Aahhh, yes, defend the child slavery traffickers.
Last week, the Census Bureau announced it would no longer contract with ACORN.
An obvious democrat vote getting organization counting voters? And this didn’t raise nary a concern to begin with?
I say the Repugs have done the nation a service.
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 17th, 2009
5:25 pm
By the way, the battle of the bookman blog bragging rights rapidly approaches.
Yes, the Bears are with out thee Urlacher but the Steelers will be Polamaluless.
Evens that score.
Who knows, maybe the Bears will make dozens upon dozens of bone headed mistakes and give away the game like they did Sunday night.
And maybe they won’t.
Either way, welcome to Soldier Field, bookman.
GEORGE AMERICAN
September 17th, 2009
5:27 pm
I SAY BECK NEEDS TO SET HIS CITES ON OTHER ILLEGALLY FUNDED DEMOCRAT VOTING “COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS” LIKE THE DNC!!!
MPC
September 17th, 2009
5:28 pm
Since ACORN is defunded, are you able to offer advice for the tax ramifications and logistics of setting up a sex slavery ring? I am in Los Angeles. Thanks.
Jay
September 17th, 2009
5:28 pm
Or as Obama calls it, Solidarity Field.
Go Steelers!
md
September 17th, 2009
5:29 pm
Pretty pitiful when corruption of any kind is shrugged off as a “bogeyman”.
DoggoneGA
September 17th, 2009
5:35 pm
According to a report on NPR this “defunding” will be (MY words) merely a blip on the ACORN horizon. They said the federal funding was only 2-3 percent of their total funding and that their programs would continue.
Zip
September 17th, 2009
5:35 pm
Acorn will just change it’s name, shuffle it’s leadership and come back again because the organization is an integral part of the Democrat machine. It’s kind of the party’s Ministry of Honesty or in new speak, MiniHon.
DoggoneGA
September 17th, 2009
5:39 pm
“Pretty pitiful when corruption of any kind is shrugged off as a “bogeyman”.”
You’re right. We should immediately defund Congress. I mean, really, look at all the corruption we’re funding THERE.
Joey
September 17th, 2009
5:44 pm
Why can’t cowardly Democrats stand up for one of their honorable organizations. ACORN is a service group that works only for the good of the people. Weak-kneed Democrats crumble and throw ACORN under the bus for no good reason. Who or what will they abandon next? Who? What?
Jay…….who or what?
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
September 17th, 2009
5:44 pm
Well, they never went far enough. They need to shift that money to a outfit that registers Republican voters. That way we at least get something out of it. As it is, we got all these Mexicans and Those People voting and they get stronger every two years on account of their kids getting old enough to vote and them having so many kids. We need a bunch to scour the hills and woods and trailer parks to sign up rednecks to vote. We all know how they’ll vote.
It’s just a idea but it’s a good one if I do say so myself. If we don’t do something like this pretty soon they’ll call us the Old White Guys Party and we won’t have enough voters to elect a dog-catcher on account of us getting old and dying off. You can’t vote if you’re dead now on account of this photo ID law. Looks like it’s back-firing on us.
Have a good night everybody.
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 17th, 2009
5:45 pm
I have also communicated with ACORN’s independent Advisory Council, and they will assist ACORN in naming an independent auditor and investigator to conduct a thorough review of all of the organizations relevant systems and processes. That reviewer, to be named within 48 hours, will make recommendations directly to me and to the full ACORN Board.
Hey, Cynthia Tucker is in D.C, naming her would be perfect!
Public Option or No Bill
September 17th, 2009
5:51 pm
Since the random post I saw was yoyo yammering about “child slavery trafficers” I’m delighted to educate the wingnuts as to the child slavery trafficking that Abramoff, Ralph Reed, and Tom Delay protected and went to great length to do it.
Abramoff –Long federal prison residency
Delay–Making a fool out of himself while holding up his eventual substantial term in a Texas prison–the dance steps will serve him well there, and I’m sure he’ll be the star of the TV room. Delay will love the continual programming of BET videos as well.
Reed–would have been prosecuted, but a Texas DA dropped the ball and forfeited his right to prosecute Reed via statute of limitations.
Documentation is available upon request with proper fees in advance..
Google Marianna Islands Delay Marianna Islands Ralph Reed Marianna Islands Abramoff and Reed and you’ll get an edcucation into how all of them defended child sex slavery in the Marianna islands.
My researchers are hard at work as to party affiliation but when you talk prison–you’re talking Repubozos 99/100 times.
RW-(the original)
September 17th, 2009
5:52 pm
At whom will the fickle finger of fomented fury point next?
Probably whatever ACORN changes it’s name to.
DebbieDoRight
September 17th, 2009
5:54 pm
You know I saw that ACORN video where the guy comes in and says “I’m a pimp and I want to file taxes blah, blah, blah”. Now what’s so odd to me about that video, is that any tax preparer worth their salt would’ve told him that he had to have verifiable RECEIPTS from past customers in order to file it on his 1099. How many pimps/hookers give out receipts?
The whole thing smells like “BUSHSH##T” to me. How did those “couple of kids with a camera”, get funded to do their little “investigating” in all these different cities and how did they, average white kids, walk into an urban ACORN station/building said they were pimp/prostitute and be taken seriously? Why didn’t any of the workers laugh their azzes off at an obvious prank?
And the part where the woman said to “put your money in a tin can and bury it in your back yard”, that was classic!! How many pimps/prostitutes have BACK YARDS?!? They’re usually transient and able to pick up and move at a moments notice if need be! If they make that much money to own a house; they’d need a paper trail and in order to have a paper trail they’d need to have someone front them a legitimate job!!
I personally, would’ve thought the whole thing was a joke!! AND I wouldn’t be surprised if someone comes forward and say that they thought it was a joke too!! Oh and the part about the underage south american girls and the lady said to put them down as dependents…..PRICELESS!!!
PS: Before anyone starts sending me hate mail, you can’t just put down, as a 22 year old kid, a bunch of dependents on your taxes and don’t expect it, (your taxes) to be red flagged and a lien put on his (the pimp’s) holdings/refund check/properties. ANY credible tax preparer could’ve told him that!!
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 17th, 2009
5:54 pm
These people are derelicts, treacherous and whacked out-
“I have concerns about some of the language that is being used because I saw … I saw this myself in the late ’70s in San Francisco,” Nasty Pelosi said, choking up and with tears forming in her eyes. “This kind of rhetoric is just, is really frightening and it created a climate in which we, violence took place and … I wish that we would all, again, curb our enthusiasm in some of the statements that are made.”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/09/17/pelosi_chokes_up_warning_against_political_violence.html
sick
RW-(the original)
September 17th, 2009
5:55 pm
Why does the “Enter Your Comments Here” message stay in place when you go to the comment box now? Progress, AJC style I guess.
Bosch,
Don’t be going downstairs and telling Midori I’m here. I’ve got to get back to the Blackjack tables.
Public Option or No Bill
September 17th, 2009
5:57 pm
In contrast to the made up IBD poll, where IBD has been pressed to reveal it’s polling methodology and refused, the New England Journal of Medicine, arguably the most difficult medical journal to get published in, released a poll of 2000 physicians including an 8 page survey where 1939 participants responded and 63% of the physicians favored a public option.
http://healthcarereform.nejm.org/?p=1785&query=home
The IBD poll has been called a clown pollo, and 2/3 physicians are not poised to quit medicine if any health reform passes as IBD suggested. IBD should stick to modified derivatives and their campaign to make sure they aren’t regulated so that the banks can be cryin’ for a bailout again. That’s where we’re headed.
number1ninja
September 17th, 2009
5:57 pm
I’m with you there, Whiner, but hopefully Knox and Bennett have learned how to finish a route by then. 1 pick would probably be too many against Pittsburg
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
September 17th, 2009
6:00 pm
Well, I see this DebbieDoEverybody is trying to take up for ACORN and making all kinds of charges about how they were probly set up. Anyhow, I ain’t buying it and they need to be charged with as many charges as they can get and add Stupidity in with them. You got to admit you got to be mighty dumb to start giving a Woman of the Night and her Pimp tax advise. I’m just suprized these ACORN people can figure out how to find their way home after a hard day of wasting our tax money.
DebbieDoRight
September 17th, 2009
6:02 pm
Gotta run — going to watch the Tech Vs. Miami BEAT DOWN at the ESPN Zone. All wise cracks, dirty remarks, and DEBBIE YOU FOOL!!! messages will be answered when I return.
Go Tech!!!!
TnGelding
September 17th, 2009
6:08 pm
We’re safe!
I was off by a couple of trillion:
“U.S. household wealth up for first time since 2007″
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S. households’ net worth rose by $2 trillion to $53.1 trillion in the second quarter, the first increase since before the recession began in 2007, Federal Reserve data showed on Thursday.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090917/bs_nm/us_usa_economy_wealth_5
NRBEE
September 17th, 2009
6:10 pm
Um Jay. Republicans did not “kill” ACORN. ACORN killed ACORN.
And an overwhelming amount of Dems voted in favor of the defunding act. Ah-durrrrr…this is a fairly dumb blog post. Even for you.
socialismsux
September 17th, 2009
6:10 pm
Journalists who continue to support these sleazes are just as sleazy as ACORN is. Ccontinuing to conceal facts and deceive the public should be criminial in itself. So much for credibility.
jt
September 17th, 2009
6:12 pm
Yea,
How come ACORN gets punished for enslaving children, screwing for money, and misappropriation of tax-payer money
and
congress gets a free pass?
NRBEE
September 17th, 2009
6:12 pm
At whom will the fickle finger of fomented fury point next?
—————————————-
According to several prominent tea party members whom I am in contact with: the liberal news media. Brush up on your resume, Jay.
md
September 17th, 2009
6:12 pm
“You’re right. We should immediately defund Congress. I mean, really, look at all the corruption we’re funding THERE.”
You’ll get no argument from me.
Midori
September 17th, 2009
6:19 pm
At whom will the fickle finger of fomented fury point next?
LOL, Jay!! Are you paying tribute to Henry Gibson?
DoggoneGA
September 17th, 2009
6:19 pm
“Um Jay. Republicans did not “kill” ACORN. ACORN killed ACORN.”
Umm…nobody killed ACORN. All they did was kill any Federal funding that goes to ACORN. Which, as I said before, was reported to be something like 2-3 percent of their total funding. That is not exactly a death blow.
Midori
September 17th, 2009
6:22 pm
Don’t be going downstairs and telling Midori I’m here. I’ve got to get back to the Blackjack tables.
A HA!!
Found you, ya deadbeat!!!
DoggoneGA
September 17th, 2009
6:23 pm
“Are you paying tribute to Henry Gibson?”
Or Mary Travers?
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 17th, 2009
6:24 pm
ninja- I suggest battering the Pittsburgh line with Forte, springing Olsen in front of the safeties and letting Hester outrun the CB’s, not necessarily in that order.
But knowing our cleft lipped, beady eyed coaching staff, they will flood the field with screen passes, which will be eaten alive by the Steeler linebacking corp.
We are doomed to suffer stupidity by the lakefront, eternally.
Midori
September 17th, 2009
6:25 pm
Doggone,
all my heroes are going
Kevin
September 17th, 2009
6:26 pm
Journalists! Sleazy!
That’s downright racist of you to say that!
md
September 17th, 2009
6:30 pm
“All they did was kill any Federal funding that goes to ACORN. Which, as I said before, was reported to be something like 2-3 percent of their total funding. That is not exactly a death blow.”
Depends. Probably not the best business decision to do business with an organization that has been shunned by the US Congress. I could see many jumping ship vs being tainted.
@@
September 17th, 2009
6:30 pm
Gosh, jay, do you know where YOUR daughters are? Was it not apparent to you that one of those ACORN workers may very well be dealing in the human trafficking of underage girls?
Obviously not.
Your lack of concern for anything other than your political games puts you beneath contempt.
Games….just games.
Midori
September 17th, 2009
6:30 pm
oh Kevin,
take it back over to Cynthia’s.
DoggoneGA
September 17th, 2009
6:30 pm
“all my heroes are going”
Mine too. I liked Henry Gibson and I was sorry to hear he died. But I cried for Mary Travers.
md
September 17th, 2009
6:32 pm
Reminds me of the movie “Taken”. That one is an eye opener if you have a daughter.
@@
September 17th, 2009
6:33 pm
I agree with RW. ACORN will simply change their name. Who knows….Obama may offer up a suggestion on how to apply just like the other ACORN workers did.
Joan
September 17th, 2009
6:33 pm
It is easy to know where the former ACORNites will go. They will simply join Obama’s domestic military establishment. The Democrats need their organizers after all. They have to beat up on their people to go vote, because if they didn’t most of them wouldn’t even know when the election was being held.
DoggoneGA
September 17th, 2009
6:37 pm
“Probably not the best business decision to do business with an organization that has been shunned by the US Congress”
Oh, I don’t know…they might be able to make up the difference by selling bumper stickers: “Make Congress mad…contribut to ACORN”
josef nix
September 17th, 2009
6:38 pm
Doggone and midori
Got my Peter Paul and Mary playing as we post…
Taxpayer
September 17th, 2009
6:41 pm
I just love the smell of bi-partisanship in the evening, or afternoon, or morning. Isn’t it great to see Democrats and Republicans working side by side to stomp out fraud just as soon as it was brought to their attentions via video. I wonder… Oh, never mind… there’s no need to… naw… .
Matilda
September 17th, 2009
6:53 pm
I’m GLAD both the House and Senate voted to defund those ACORN crooks! They’re probably not ALL crooks, but a few bad apples can indeed spoil the barrel. People should choose their associations more wisely.
NOW can we defund those crooks at Halliburton, Blackwater, and KBR? They’re receiving many multiples of the federal $53 mil in federal funding that ACORN received over 15 years. (Anyone have those numbers?) Blackwater employees have certainly done MUCH worse than giving tax tips to pimps! LET’S TAKE A MORAL STAND NOW! (They’re probably not ALL crooks, but a few bad apples can indeed spoil the barrel.)
josef nix
September 17th, 2009
6:56 pm
Matilda–
“Let’s take a moral stand now!”
Don’t expect it to be coming from that wh*rehouse on Capitol Hill, though.
Kayaker 71
September 17th, 2009
7:01 pm
Debbie Do Right,
Someone could come along and hit you over the head with a 2X4 and you still wouldn’t get it. The ACORN people are complicit in fraud, deception, encouraging people to break the law and funding a house that would be used in a prostitution scam. It’s all on the tape. Just like Cold Cash Jefferson was caught on tape and the tape even showed him carrying away the money that he accepted. And STILL, the black community defended this joker the same as they defended Marion Berry in the drug bust. Even re-elected him for another term as mayor of DC. What does it take with you and Bookman? At least 375 Congressmen/women and 83 Senators thought it wasn’t bogus. You would defend this POS liberal organization to the death just because it is ACORN. You probably voted for Bozo too.
Public Option or No Bill
September 17th, 2009
7:01 pm
LOL the king of right wing Bombast besides Rush, Hannity and a few airheads from Faux, Bill O’Reilly has come out for the public option.
Paul
September 17th, 2009
7:02 pm
[[It looks as though the Republicans have finally succeeded in slaying their favorite bogeyman]]
SOMEBODY…ANYBODY…. PLEASE…. help me understand something….
Democrats work for months and months and months and can’t hardly get any Republicans at all to go along with ANY of their bills…
Republicans work less than a WEEK and persuade a majority of Democrats to go along with one of theirs.
What am I missing, here?
(Note to Pelosi: ask Boehner if he’ll let you read his copy of “Secrets to Bipartisanship in Seven Days or Less” book)
Kelly
September 17th, 2009
7:02 pm
Enter your comments here
Ahh yes, even in the face of child prostitution the militant liberal hold his ground.
Well done! I’m sure your kids are proud of you.
@@
September 17th, 2009
7:04 pm
Mort Kondrake, my kinda liberal just brought something up. What sent Iran’s recent satellite into orbit?
Using a Safir-2 to launch a satellite into orbit marks an important milestone in Iran’s quest to develop an ICBM capable of delivering a nuclear weapon to all of Europe and at least portions of the U.S. It also represents a significant step forward in Iranian efforts to use space for purposes hostile to the U.S. and its allies while placing some U.S. satellites at potential risk.
Iran’s satellite launch is another wake-up call that underscores the urgency of building effective missile defenses and ratcheting up international pressure to halt Iran’s nuclear weapons program. Just as the 1957 launch of the Soviet Union’s Sputnik satellite signaled surprisingly rapid technological progress that eventually translated into a greater military threat, Iran’s satellite launch is a harbinger of future dangers emanating from the volatile Middle East. The Obama Administration must not ignore the warning signs that Iran’s hostile regime continues to transmit.
The BBC comes up with the same conclusion but this is “one of those”….as RC likes to type
conservative opinions
again….shared by the BBC.
F. Sinkwich
September 17th, 2009
7:05 pm
It’s difficult to determine which defense of this retched taxpayer funded entity is most pathetic:
* Just a Republican bogeyman! Only partisanship brought them down.
* They only get 2-3% of their funding from the feds! Who cares what they do with it?
* Those “Investigative Reporters” were 20 year old conservative shills! Are you going to believe the video tape or your lying eyes?
I think what’s most pathetic is anyone who can defend any organization which enables sex trafficking. Shame on you.
@@
September 17th, 2009
7:06 pm
I fully expect some liberal to reply it was “a hairball” that Mort brought up.
I must learn to choose my words more carefully.
Liberals are, after all, predictable.
Bob
September 17th, 2009
7:07 pm
1st amendment! Doesn’t the AJC support it?
Kayaker 71
September 17th, 2009
7:14 pm
ACORN was granted close to 55M in government funds for it’s activities to date. This is a drop in the bucket compared to their share of the 4.19B dollar portion of the stimulus package called the Neighborhood Stabilization Program. These funds are supposed to be handed out through the Dept of Housing and Urban Development. Can we assume that a cease and desist order on funds also includes monies from this 4.19B share of the stimulus package? If so, those tapes made by two kids in their mid 20s have brought ACORN to it’s knees. Our elected officials could have done this a long time ago. Why the all out push to defraud ACORN now? Votes, my friends, votes.
md
September 17th, 2009
7:15 pm
How many on these boards would even continue the conversation when there was mention of young teens and sex trafficing??
And the woman on the tape didn’t even bat an eye. Disspicable.
@@
September 17th, 2009
7:17 pm
F. Sinkwich:
It’s important to remember that jay’s a liberal. That 2-3% was somebody else’s money. A small portion of that money was likely jay’s but he doesn’t mind. It’s all for a good cause as long as it’s someone else’s daughter. He’s probably bigoted towards El Salvadorians.
Taxpayer
September 17th, 2009
7:19 pm
Paul
September 17th, 2009
7:02 pm
[[It looks as though the Republicans have finally succeeded in slaying their favorite bogeyman]]
SOMEBODY…ANYBODY…. PLEASE…. help me understand something….
Democrats work for months and months and months and can’t hardly get any Republicans at all to go along with ANY of their bills…
Republicans work less than a WEEK and persuade a majority of Democrats to go along with one of theirs.
What am I missing, here?
(Note to Pelosi: ask Boehner if he’ll let you read his copy of “Secrets to Bipartisanship in Seven Days or Less” book)
Well, Paul, if you think this is but an example of the power of the Republican, what are they waiting for, dude. Let’s see some more of that persuasion in action. What do they need. A video.
Public Option or No Bill
September 17th, 2009
7:21 pm
One interesting aspect in the latest bill totally written by insurance and pharmaceutical executives for their whores on the Senate Finance committee:
By capitulating to the Joe Wilson’s in their dead on arrival bill, Baucus, with the White House complicit would actually make insurance costs higher in insurance company controlled “exchanges”/coops by excluding illegal immigrants from buying insurance with their own money from the pool because they are demographically a very healthy population.
The bill will go nowhere and it’s markup will change it dramatically next week when Wyden and Rockerfeller lay into dimwit Conservadems and insurance company whores Conrad and Baucus, but the current meme of keeping illegal immigrants from buying insurance is completely stupid because what happens is that hospitals like Grady and counties like Fulton, Dekalb, Gwinteet, and Cobb where there are large populations of illegal immigrants end up eating the bill and via grants ultimately passing it ontoYOU Bookman blog reader ’cause unless you are a tax evader, you’ll end up paying for the care of these people who aren’t allowed to purchase insurance.
Nice goin’ Joe Wilson–great forethought.
Check it out here–you get to pay for the health care that your Repubozotards and Bluedogotard salves of the insurance companies now want to keep illegal immigrants from purchasing.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/did-the-white-house-give-joe-wilson-everything-he-wanted-in-a-word-yes.php#more
mike
September 17th, 2009
7:22 pm
Anyone doubt for a second how Bookman would have reacted if ACORN has been associated with any of his own boogeymen? What a hypocrite.
Taxpayer
September 17th, 2009
7:24 pm
Did someone say Halliburton and the evil Dick.
josef nix
September 17th, 2009
7:27 pm
PAUL
As per your request from downstairs…
Politics, my friend, the Democrats knew they had a nasty can of worms on their plate and cut their losses before the GOP could capitalize on it…
stands for decibels
September 17th, 2009
7:28 pm
Have we sufficient fainting couches for all the regulars here?
Kayaker 71
September 17th, 2009
7:28 pm
Some of us asked Bookman to run a thread on ACORN a couple of weeks ago. He must be a little like Charlie Gibson when they asked him about the 70,000 or so people in DC at the 9/12 rally and Gibson replied that he hadn’t heard about it. Positions of convenience often reveal the motives of those who wish to ignore an obvious truth. Bookman and Debbie Do Right make quite a pair.
Old Timer
September 17th, 2009
7:30 pm
Will ACORN have to pay more for votes the next election?
F. Sinkwich
September 17th, 2009
7:30 pm
Thanks for the reminder, @@.
I think he and the other libs around here are so upset because white skin showed up in those incriminating videos. After all, their knee-jerk reaction to any criticism from anyone is racism! Now all they have is to defend the child sex trade.
Public Option or No Bill
September 17th, 2009
7:31 pm
Again, the nitwits on Senate Finance Six who want to exclude illegal immigrants from BUYING insurance from any source, would increase your rates if Grassley and Conrad’s language were to survive in a final bill, because by simple permutation and combination math, when you exclude healthy people from an insurance pool, the rates and deductibles go much higher.
It would also have no impact whatsoever on immigration policy or immigration numbers. None.
So it would increase YOUR COSTS Bookman reader, and it would also increase your taxes because when these people can’t buy any insurance, they are going to show up at hospitals who will have to treat them and the costs of every dollar of this will be passed on to YOU because that treatment is ultimately paid for by federal grants.
In fact, every dollar of every Emory Healthcare/Morehouse School of Medicine employee at Grady with an MD and some with an RN is paid for by a grant through your tax dollars right now. All of the medical staff at Grady are either supplied by Emory or Morehouse via federal grant.
@@
September 17th, 2009
7:32 pm
When Nazi Germany and Soviet Union signed their mutual Non-aggression treaty on August 23 1939 in Moscow, it included a secret protocol regulating the demarcation line(Marquess Curzon line) between Germany and the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union invaded Poland on September 17 quickly moving to the agreed Western border.
And Obama threw Poland under the bus on the same day, Sept. 17th, 70 years later.
I wonder if he even thought about that?
Naahhhh. Obama isn’t good when it comes to thinking.
boots
September 17th, 2009
7:34 pm
Acorn = child sex trade. They knew people were seeking help in trafficing children for sex, and they helped facilitate it. Further, if it is such a great organization, let the public sector finance it. It is ashame that “mainstream” (a.k.a. dying media) journalist did not uncover this corruption and evil. I guess they are too busy worrying about the Kennedy’s or Obama’s vacations.
@@
September 17th, 2009
7:35 pm
sfd:
Please! Never invite me over to sit on your couch. There’s no telling who you….I mean what you do there.
Taxpayer
September 17th, 2009
7:35 pm
Did someone say Gale Norton?
richard
September 17th, 2009
7:36 pm
Bookman, you look stoned in your picture. I guess your brain cells are too far gone to understand the legitimacy of exposing sex trafficing criminals.
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 17th, 2009
7:38 pm
Results 1 – 10 of about 59,800,000 for obama failure.
heh
stands for decibels
September 17th, 2009
7:41 pm
Dastardly ACORN, that craven, contemptible coven of community organizers, that mighty scourge of all that is right and true
All that and more! much more! Jay, you forgot this: they are “on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy”
The Mavericky One would never lie, right?
DoggoneGA
September 17th, 2009
7:42 pm
Paul…you want to know what they were afraid of? Look around here, on this blog. They’re afraid of the people who not only are not ashamed of telling lies…but who positively revel in it.
Taxpayer
September 17th, 2009
7:45 pm
This isn’t about that little thing with Duvall, is it. Naw.
Public Option or No Bill
September 17th, 2009
7:46 pm
Insurance employee Sen. Kent Conrad on TV saying his bill will force people to buy insurance becaue the more people who don’t have insurance the more it costs for the rest of us. But not illegal immigrants–so of course the moron is pushing his principle–the more people not insured the more it costs for the rest of us. Can you get any dumber?
josef nix
September 17th, 2009
7:46 pm
@@ at 7:32
Obamulka nie movi dobrze po-polsku, and seems to have forgotten that Chicago is the second largest city of Poland. That’s one demographic it’s dubious he’ll get next go ’round, identity politics being what it is…
Capital Research Center:
September 17th, 2009
7:47 pm
[...] Jay Bookman of Atlanta Journal-Constitution [...]
gbl
September 17th, 2009
7:55 pm
Bookman….you’ve really lost it this time. You leave me speechless…..almost.
josef nix
September 17th, 2009
8:02 pm
The Unmentionable just reported the Czech response, “We recognize what the President has done.” A terse and phlegmatic lot, they.
Bruno
September 17th, 2009
8:03 pm
“Go Tech!!!!”
Though my sympathies lie with GA Tech, my money went on Miami for tonight’s game. Too much speed for Tech to handle IMO.
“Debbie Do Right, Someone could come along and hit you over the head with a 2X4 and you still wouldn’t get it.”
Apparently you missed DDR’s post yesterday afternoon in which she delineated which black politicians are worthy of respect/support and which aren’t. Condaleeza Rice, Clarence Thomas, and Thomas Sowell don’t look after “their own kind” well enough for Debbie to support them.
Public Option or No Bill
September 17th, 2009
8:09 pm
CBO has called Coops from Baucus bill worthless:
“The proposed co-ops had very little effect on the estimates of total enrollment in the exchanges or federal costs because, as they are described in the specifications, they seem unlikely to establish a significant market presence in many areas of the country or to noticeably affect federal subsidy payments. ”
Rockerfeller is gone from the Baucus bill. Wyden says he won’t vote it out without public option. That there done kills Baucus’ bill in his own committee and Rockerfeller and Wyden will change the bill radically next week.
DebbieDoRight
September 17th, 2009
8:10 pm
Bruno – PROVE where I said or inferred which politicians were worthy of respect or not”. YOu can’t ’cause; just like all the rest of the brain deads, you’re lying just to facilitate an erroneous point. Stop lying — I say enough controversial things without having you lie about something i DIDn’t say. DUH!!
Go Tech Beat Miami!!!
DebbieDoRight
September 17th, 2009
8:12 pm
You guys already hit me with a 2×4 when you re-elected bush for ANOTHER 4 years!! Talk about brain dead repuglicans………..
Midori
September 17th, 2009
8:15 pm
Enter your comments hereYou guys already hit me with a 2×4 when you re-elected bush for ANOTHER 4 years!! Talk about brain dead repuglicans………..
ROFL!!!
Good one, Deb!!
DebbieDoRight
September 17th, 2009
8:15 pm
I bet the ACORN mess is gonna be another “McCain Supporter attacked by Black Obama supporter and marked with a B!!!” fiasco. You cons LOVE to fabricate, lie, and play in dirt.
OK I’m gone for real this time. Bruno, you can continue lieing behind my back — you’re good at it; having learned from Bush and Cheney and Rove……..
Go Tech!! Beat Miami!!
RollerGirl
September 17th, 2009
8:17 pm
You have to understand Bookman logic to understand his blog..
Black…good
White…Bad
Mexican…these could go either way
Rich…Evil, greedy for wanting to keep what THEY earn
Poor..oppressed, not greedy for wanting to keep what YOU Earned
MSNBC..unbiased
Drudge..biased
FOX…satan
Now with that primer, you should be able to follow any bookman blog post
You are welcome
Midori
September 17th, 2009
8:21 pm
Roller Girl,
if it bothers you so, why are you here?
Public Option or No Bill
September 17th, 2009
8:22 pm
How long are you contagious after being infected with H1N1 influenza? http://bit.ly/VyK0q
Bruno
September 17th, 2009
8:24 pm
“Bruno – PROVE where I said or inferred which politicians were worthy of respect or not”. YOu can’t ’cause; just like all the rest of the brain deads, you’re lying just to facilitate an erroneous point. Stop lying”
Well, here’s the exchange from yesterday in case your memory is failing:
Bruno: Several posters here have either implied or directly stated that a majority of Republicans are racists, despite the fact that support for Rice, Thomas and Sowell remains high. Every time in the past I’ve brought this up, I was informed that supporting these folks didn’t “count” for some reason, since they didn’t hold traditional liberal views. Do you have any perspective on that?
DDR: I don’t think it’s their non “traditional liberal views” that makes some people wary of them; I think it’s their lack of OTHER blacks in their lives………People don’t trust other people who have no affinity towards their own.”
So what about your post makes me a liar and brain-dead?
@@
September 17th, 2009
8:25 pm
Here’s a little stimulus for those who might be interested in ACORN’S connections. Follow the money.
jay, that blogger has done what you and the rest of the liberal media should’ve been doing.
I know….I know….you prefer your Land of Oz. If you only had a brain.
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 17th, 2009
8:26 pm
diM- Silence, wench!
You are not the keeper of the gate!
Sluggo
September 17th, 2009
8:26 pm
Acorn is defunded for now not that we would have been able to follow the scandal in the AJC. Faithful readers of the AJC would not have read much about the sex trafficking advice sting. While the AJC won’t cover the prostituting, child sex trafficking scandal, Bookman has no problem defending it. Now that it’s a community organizing group the four years and forty million dollars, does not mean so much.
Reflexive, unimaginative defender of all things democrat. Good job Jay.
Bruno
September 17th, 2009
8:27 pm
“Talk about brain dead repuglicans………..”
“Bruno, you can continue lieing behind my back — you’re good at it; having learned from Bush and Cheney and Rove……..”
Pardon me, Debbie, I was under the assumption that you might be here to honestly discuss issues and explain your point of view using facts and logic. I won’t waste my time speaking to you in the future.
Midori
September 17th, 2009
8:28 pm
So, Andy. you’re the key master.
always knew you traveled on four legs.
@@
September 17th, 2009
8:28 pm
…or a heart for that matter.
Midori
September 17th, 2009
8:28 pm
and you have horns too.
Midori
September 17th, 2009
8:29 pm
are you Roller, Sybil, er Andy?
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 17th, 2009
8:33 pm
Oh come on, diM, don’t get snarly.
You are the #1 stooge on this blog and we don’t want it any other way.
Just stick to squawking on cue and we’ll all be happy.
See, smile (-: