Part XVII in our national conversation about race
As of 10:50 a.m., this was the lead banner headline at the Drudge Report:
WHITE STUDENT BEATEN ON SCHOOL BUS; CROWD CHEERS 
Of all the thing’s occurring in the nation and the world, that’s the story that Matthew Drudge believes his readers will be most interested in seeing and will draw the most traffic. And nobody ever said that Drudge does not know his audience.
The incident occurred in St. Louis. It’s ugly. But ladies and gentlemen, it ain’t national news. I can remember witnessing probably a dozen such instances in my own high school years, with kids responding to a fight between their peers in just the fashion they do in the video. Most of you can probably say the same. I guarantee you something similar has occurred dozens of times this very day on school buses or at high schools around the country, and in most instances it had nothing to do with race and everything to do with the fact that high school can be closer to “Lord of the Flies” than most people want to admit.
But in this case the kid getting picked on is white. The boy who attacks him is black. And there’s video. So in Drudge’s world, it’s the biggest news story of the day.
There has been a lot of discussion in the past week about the role that racial resentment among white males plays in the conservative movement. I think it’s easy to exaggerate it, and I think it’s wrong to try to discredit all opposition to Barack Obama as somehow race-related, because it just isn’t. Obama is trying to do big things, and big things need to be questioned and challenged. We have to have room for that in our national life.
However, Drudge’s reaction weighs very, very heavily on the other side of the scale. He understands better than most how much power racial resentment has among his readership, and he is clearly pandering to it. It is compelling proof that for many, this is not about policies or the national debt or health care reform but something much more primal.
UPDATE, as of 3 p.m.: Just saw this from Hank Johnson, Democratic congressman from Georgia, referring to his colleague from South Carolina, Joe Wilson.
“”It did not help the cause of diversity and tolerance with his remarks. If I was a betting man, I’d say it instigated more racist sentiment, feeling that it’s OK, that you don’t have to bury it down,” Johnson said.
“I guess we’ll probably have folks putting on white hoods and white uniforms again and riding through the countryside, intimidating people,” he said. “That’s the logical conclusion if this kind of attitude is not rebuked.”
That’s crazy talk. That’s garbage and nonsense. You can’t justify charges of racism on the words “you lie” and you certainly can’t make charges that inflammatory based on little or no evidence.
Johnson now needs to apologize, publicly, the sooner the better. That’s just wrong.
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I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 15th, 2009
2:10 pm
You and your children and grand children and great grandchildren and great, great grand children and great, great, great grandchildren and great, great, great, great grandchildren onwards for 400 years watch some other race subjugate you. Murder you. Brutalize you. Lynch you. Keep you unempowered. ALL systematically.
More people died fighting to end slavery in the Civil War than have been lynched or brutalized all throughout the entire history of the United States.
Mumbling morons that wish vengeance on other people and those who cheer that notion on, are no better than the scum who enslaved people in the first place.
thomas
September 15th, 2009
2:13 pm
AMVET,
Have never committed any of the things you suggest,
Don’t know any who have
Don’t even know any who have had any of that done to them, or seen it done to any other.
Maybe it is your older generation that is still holding all of the racist and bigot filled ideas.
By the way I am mostly Scottish, does that mean I should have bad feelings about brits? You know they did the same thing to my people.
Confederate history month-Fact- There were free blacks living in the Confederate states…..
CMT- Didn’t know country was another one of thoe code words you all keep speaking of.
I gotta get my hands on a comprehensive list of those code words…….
Matilda
September 15th, 2009
2:13 pm
AM VET, thanks for your 1:58. I often wish that a person could tell me apart from these “white pride” freaks with just a glance, but sadly, only the palest specks of melanin emerge in summer. My words and actions will have to set me apart, so I hope people will forgive me if I seem to be trying too hard. As long as these haters still walk among us, it will never be enough.
Normal
September 15th, 2009
2:15 pm
Remember this?
——————-
Sometimes I’m right then I can be wrong
My own beliefs are in my songs
A butcher, a banker, a drummer and then
Makes no difference what group I’m in
I am everyday people
There is a blue one who can’t accept
The green one for living with
a black ones tryin’ to be a skinny one
Different strokes for different folks
And so on and so on and scooby dooby dooby
Ooh sha sha
We gotta live together
I am no better and neither are you
We’re all the same whatever we do
You love me you hate me
You know me and then
Still can’t figure out the bag I’m in
I am everyday people
There is a new man
That doesn’t like the short man
For being such a rich one
That will not help the poor one
Different strokes for different folks
And so on and so on scooby dooby dooby
Ooh sha sha
We got to live together
There is a yellow one that won’t
Accept the black one
That won’t accept the red one
That won’t accept the white one
Different strokes for different folks
And so on and so on and
Scooby dooby dooby
Ooh sha sha
I am everyday people
DebbieDoRight
September 15th, 2009
2:16 pm
hef: DDR-No I don’t think “flabbergasting” is a word,sometimes I type to fast. I was privy to knowledge of a couple of white boy’s who were beaten pretty badly in downtown D.C., the reason-they turned down the wrong road. I was in the car ahead of them.
Hef, that’s how it is all over. One race does another wrong and the other tries to even the score. I remember Yusef Hawkins in Bensonhurst, Latasha Harlins, Robbie Tolan. Every race in America can come up with names and instances.
mike
September 15th, 2009
2:19 pm
This coming from a guy who wrote two posts about Westmoreland’s “uppity” comment.
Of all the thing’s occurring in the nation and the world, that’s the story that Jay believed his readers would be most interested in seeing and would draw the most traffic.
He understands better than most how much power racial resentment has among his readership, and he is clearly pandering to it. It is compelling proof that for many, this is not about policies or the national debt or health care reform but something much more primal.
He is also a hypocrite.
Scooter
September 15th, 2009
2:20 pm
DebbieDoRight
September 15th, 2009
2:06 pm
Dang, DDR. That was a gooden!
Bosch
September 15th, 2009
2:23 pm
Debbie,
Why are you hating on Federer? Are you a Swissist?
Normal
September 15th, 2009
2:23 pm
Mike…It’s Jay’s blog..So?
and you had a powerful post going until that last sentence. No need for name calling anytime, anywhere. You don’t seem to know when to stop.
thomas
September 15th, 2009
2:24 pm
-In an obvious reference to the Ku Klux Klan, Rep. Hank Johnson, D-Ga., said Tuesday that people will put on “white hoods and ride through the countryside” if emerging racist attitudes, which he says were subtly supported by Wilson, are not rebuked. He said Wilson must be disciplined as an example.
Bookman, this would not be thetype of race baiting you were speaking of would it?
And a GA democrat none the less.
How could teh words “you lie” be seen as racism?
How is it OK for a congresman to compare “you lie” to the Ku Klux Klan?
But it is far worse when white people do it right?
Call it like it is.
September 15th, 2009
2:26 pm
“AmVet” Dude you sad! Poor, poor you. It must be so hard for you to know that only your race has had to endure hardships in the history of this planet. No one else on this entire planet has had any issues only the Black race. Well hate to break to you and your great, great, great, great, great granddaddy, but suck it up. There is not a religion, a race, a gender that hasn’t been hit upon one time or another in this world. And oh guess what here is a shocker, yes the white man has been trodden upon.
What you say this can’t be true, because the white man has caused all the problems in the world. Pick up a book and become educated, your lack of intelligence is appalling. I will help you get started. Roman Empire, they had complete control over a little island you might know as England. Their domain lasted over 500 years sport. The Mongol Empire, The Ostrogoths, the Visigoths and so on. So please go cry on somebody else’s shoulder.
However I do like your points of murder you, lynch you, brutalize you. It all sounds like what is going on in Africa right now. I wonder why. But of course I am sure you will enlighten us that it is whitey that is controlling Africa, and has kept it from coming out of the dark ages.
How nice it must be for you to use an entire race as a crutch for you and your ancestors failings throughout history.
Doggone/GA
September 15th, 2009
2:28 pm
“One race does another wrong and the other tries to even the score”
and it doesn’t HAVE to be that way. For reference, check the recent history of South Africa
DebbieDoRight
September 15th, 2009
2:29 pm
Debbie, What in the world are you talking about Roger Federer, Tennis God Extraordinaire?
Hottness is NO excuse for bad behavior!!
Doggone: And don’t forget the media involvement in the genocide in Rwanda
You forgot to mention Kosovo — didn’t they have “ethnic” cleansing too?
Capitol Hack: Somehow, we seem bent on turning it into a repeat of our saddest moments in history.
That’s the scariest quote on this board. But. It just may be the most prophetic.
josef nix
September 15th, 2009
2:29 pm
Normal–elsewhere
mike
September 15th, 2009
2:31 pm
Normal –
“Mike…It’s Jay’s blog..So?”
So he engages in exactly the behavior that he is criticizing. What is your point?
As always, thanks for the etiquette tips.
“No need for name calling anytime, anywhere.”
Name calling is calling people “Republitard” or “racist”. I am describing Jay as what he is and provided an example of said hypocrisy.
If you don’t think Jay is a hypocrite, feel free to provide me with a counter-argument. Your constant scolding if me for such mild speech when you ignore the much more blatant name calling of those who share your views only demonstrates that you want to initiate conversation with me, but don’s have any response to the clear argument that I was making.
mike
September 15th, 2009
2:32 pm
Anyone find any irony in an AJC columnist complaining that another outlet was pandering to its base by exploiting racial divisions?
Doggone/GA
September 15th, 2009
2:32 pm
“You forgot to mention Kosovo — didn’t they have “ethnic” cleansing too?”
It isn’t possible to list all instances of genocide…my post was specifically about the horrible correlation between the Rwandan media and the genocide against the Tutsis and also against moderate Hutus. The point was the MEDIA INVOLVEMENT, not solely the genocide.
josef nix
September 15th, 2009
2:33 pm
The Unmentionable says to tell you black folks and white folks he’s got a deal for you on some blankets, buy one, get one free!
TW
September 15th, 2009
2:34 pm
Gotta feed the fear machine, Jay.
And being that it’s a lot easier to hate than grow a pair…
But don’t sweat it, the town of Morrow made it right. That kid on the bus – was he a US soldier by chance?
DebbieDoRight
September 15th, 2009
2:36 pm
Whine: Mumbling morons that wish vengeance on other people and those who cheer that notion on, are no better than the scum who enslaved people in the first place.
OMG!!! That was the most lucid thing I’ve ever seen you post!!!
I’d better start going to church, it might be close to the end of the world…………..
Doggone: and it doesn’t HAVE to be that way. For reference, check the recent history of South Africa
Correct. We all need to stop this madness; however it seems that we’re caught in a vicious cycle that we just can seem to break!
thomas
September 15th, 2009
2:36 pm
Mike I asked Jay about that earlier……
Apparently the reason the issues were written about differently is because white people are the historical majority…..
Therefore any act of percieved racism is even worse and is more of a moral offense, than an actual call to racial loyalty by any other race.
Hope that clears up the percieved hypocricy in Jay’s words.
AmVet
September 15th, 2009
2:36 pm
thomas, good on you.
If the shoe doesn’t fit, (you must acquit? LOL!!!) don’t bother trying to put it on.
Just own up to the REALITIES in this country that don’t jive with your “observations”.
And as Matilda noted immediately after you, there are essentially two types of Americans in this fray.
Those who will not condone or allow these irrefutable and countless crimes to continue. Even in the most subtle and covert ways. And those who will. Or at least DENY them and so tacitly approve of systemic and de facto bigotry. And endlessly obfuscate and justify with their moral equivalencies like mystery meat.
Take your stand as you see fit.
Keep on trying to convince yourself that you’re one of the good guys, WHITE Welcher.
A real vengeance-free peacenik now, are we? You’re not turning liberal are ya?
The primary emotion that rings true in your black heart is a lust for violence and death. On a grand scale as dictated by your vengeful god.
And I find that tragically humorous…
Midori
September 15th, 2009
2:37 pm
Kick a$$, DDR!!!
Real
September 15th, 2009
2:37 pm
AmVet 1:58 pm — always an excuse or someone else to blame for your lot in life! Try a bit of self reliance and responsibilty in place of the constant entitlement expectation and generational government dependency!!!
mike is retarded
September 15th, 2009
2:38 pm
mike pontificates: Anyone find any irony in an AJC columnist complaining that another outlet was pandering to its base by exploiting racial divisions?
only retarded conspiracy wingnuts – like you i imagine.
Scooter
September 15th, 2009
2:40 pm
josef, is he offering any deals on peace pipes?
thomas
September 15th, 2009
2:42 pm
AmVet,
so how far do we go back…………
Romans, egyptians, mesopatamians……
Each and every group you could think of has in some way been subject to hate, based upon a genetic condition.
As you noted that there are those who do not have a bigotry filled heart. Many, many, many more than do have that bigotry in them.
The problem is when comments are made like it is worse when a white person does the same thing, as was done here today.
It continues this vicious cycle. That and the consistant and constant use of calling someones actions racist, even with no proof and only theory. Kinda like the black caucus and its members have been doing.
mike
September 15th, 2009
2:42 pm
Normal –
As you are so offened by name calling, I am sure that you will be quick to admonish the witty and sophisticated “mike is retarded” for his name calling. (The wonderful rhetoric of “tolerant” and “intellectual” liberals never fails to inspire.)
Unless of course, you don’t really care about name calling.
Public Option Now.
September 15th, 2009
2:44 pm
Another Bushie (speechwriter) talks a bout the pandemic moronicity that was Bush and the repubozoputzotards
http://www.amazon.com/Speech-less-Tales-White-House-Survivor/dp/0307463729
mike
September 15th, 2009
2:44 pm
thomas –
Ahh, I see. Not surprising that Jay has offered his usual tortured logic to try to rationalize his utter hypocrisy.
Public Option Now.
September 15th, 2009
2:44 pm
Yo Repubozos–
It’s about da issues. Try discussing dem.
mike
September 15th, 2009
2:45 pm
Normal –
I am sure that you will chime in admonish “Public Option Now” for his name calling.
Unless of course, you don’t really care about name calling.
Kathy-AZ
September 15th, 2009
2:45 pm
Jay Bookman, another butt-licking bend-over liberal trying to appease.
‘Gee, look how much I’m not a racist – I’ll blame the stupid white kid for sitting down in an empty seat on his school bus and inciting those poor black kids to act like animals’. ‘If he’d just moved away and not made the beating continue, he wouldn’t have given the rest of the mob anything to laugh and cheer about’ ‘Stupid Drudge for linking it too!”
Typical Liberal, sees Black & White rather than Right & Wrong.
Reaffirms why I left the race-obsessed/racist DNC. Only a fool believes someone is not a racist who constantly believes minorities are inferior and can’t succeed without the benevolent help of the white liberals and their affirmative action programs. Liberals never truly see minorities as equals and never will. This country of over 300 million people just elected a black man to the highest position in the free world and the liberals believe they ‘propped’ him up there, without any merit given to the talent, charisma and intellect of the individual.
Wake up America and stop focusing on race over the actions of individuals.
mike
September 15th, 2009
2:47 pm
Public Option Now –
“It’s about da issues. Try discussing dem.”
You mean like you do? By calling people names three times in your two incoherent sentences?
Why don’t you also tell us that we should not call people names? LOL
jt
September 15th, 2009
2:50 pm
DebbieDoRight -
The influence of Jay Bookman, Attorneys, President Obama, and Barney Frank can never extinguish your inner light.
The Ronald will ALWAYS be there.
josef nix
September 15th, 2009
2:51 pm
scooter
“josef, is he offering any deals on peace pipes? ”
He says to tell you he’s got one about 40 years old, but you gotta bring the Yakima fireweed!
DebbieDoRight
September 15th, 2009
2:52 pm
thomas: Kinda like the black caucus and its members have been doing.
You lost the WHOLE argument with that one dig. You just HAD to do it, just couldn’t resist huh?
Bosch: Although i love Federer, and secretly dream about him at night; I will NOT CONDONE bad behavior!! (at least the ones that aren’t in my daydreams…)
Real: AmVet 1:58 pm — always an excuse or someone else to blame for your lot in life! Try a bit of self reliance and responsibilty in place of the constant entitlement expectation and generational government dependency!!!
THIS is what I’m talking about!! You don’t even KNOW AmVet, yet you’re claiming him/her to be a government entitlement baby! Do you claim the same thing for Jerusalem, Farm Subsidies, and that bridge to nowhere they wanted in Alaska? Or is it just delegated for people you perceive to be “less than” because their viewpoint is different from yours?
Normal
September 15th, 2009
2:54 pm
Josef…Gotcha!
MIKE. As long as I have been on this blog I have tried to be civil.
I have pointed out to all I catch that good manners are the best way. There are some who won’t get it. But you make powerful statements, you are smart and what you say makes sense. I don’t agree with all you say and never will, but I don’t pass over your posts like I do others here.
But when you resort to name calling and insults, you demean everything you are trying to put out. I expect it from others but not from you. You are better than that! Get over it, it’s what I think!
DebbieDoRight
September 15th, 2009
2:55 pm
jt: You always make me laugh! No matter what you always make me laugh!! The inner “ronald” indeed!!
josef nix
September 15th, 2009
2:56 pm
jt
Caught your 6:52 a.m. today. Seven of the ten have something in common. Why?
Normal
September 15th, 2009
2:57 pm
MIKE and I don’t know this Public Option Now.
For all I know, he could be whiner. Some here like to hide under different names. I’m glad you don’t and that’s another reason I like to read your posts and slap your wrist occaisionally
mike
September 15th, 2009
3:00 pm
Normal –
Fair enough. Still don’t think that calling someone a hypocrite when providing evidence of that hypocrisy really constitutes name calling, but I appreciate where you are coming from.
mm
September 15th, 2009
3:02 pm
I know the wingnuts went batsh*t crazy when Clinton was in office, but what’s going on now makes that pale in comparison. It’s hatred and racism. You own it GOP and MSM. You’ve allowed it and condoned it. You will now suffer the consequences of trying to push your agenda.
If the minorities get out and vote in the numbers they did last November, the GOP will never win another presidential election. And if the Dems succeed with HCR, which I think they will, the GOP numbers will shrink even more in Congress in 2010.
@@
September 15th, 2009
3:03 pm
And then let some small group of scumbags say after it finally ends that the score is even.
That it is all to be forgotten.
That the playing field is level now.
That NO further mention of it is to occur.
That NO justice is to be allowed.
Frankly, some of you here make me sick to realize we share a common ethnicity…
You don’t presume much, do you, AmVet.
What good does it serve to replace a physical ball and chain with a psychological ball and chain?
I’m hearing more and more black leaders address this very issue. Aside from the Jeremiah Wrights, many are saying that carrying burdens from the past while trying to move forward leaves people idling which is exactly what the Democratic party wants. Can’t use ‘em if they’re movin’ on up. If they can remain victims, they’ll be needing a champion. We know how liberals love to champion causes.
Many self-professed blacks on these sites have said themselves, that the Jesse Jacksons, Al Sharptons (others) have had their heyday and no longer serve a useful purpose. So here’s the question…
If civil rights leaders of old are no longer useful and Barack Obama is not useful (you said that yourself) then who’s left? Your sympathy certainly isn’t going to benefit the black community. Again…who does that leave?
White liberals!!?!!
Oh puleeze.
This is for you, DDR. You dig deep into your pockets to support your colleges, your own people? My church, for as long as I’ve been attending, has supported The UNCF (United Negro College Fund). The United Methodist Church is among one of their biggest contributors. The International Heifer Program with donations going to Africa where real poverty is reality, not something that politicians get to define so that they can project for the T.V. screen.
How quickly you forget the fact that it’s conservatives who do most of the charitable giving while liberals only talk about it.
I pray for the day that we can all come together, look our representatives in the eye and say….
‘Ya know what? WE (emphasis on WE) don’t need you anymore. Sit there and wait for your name to be called.
AmVet
September 15th, 2009
3:04 pm
Unreal, red herring much? Intellectual dishonesty like yours is generally not so proudly displayed.
thomas, on the surface a good question, but two thoughts.
I am an American, not a Mesopotamian or a Roman.
Secondly as mankind moves further and further away from religious mysticism and mythologies, we have become supposedly more enlightened.
Making the same murderous “mistakes” as the ancients is to me unforgivable.
As for “…it is worse when a white person does the same thing…”, I have no interest whatsoever in that proposition. Or it’s counter-proposition.
Right is right and wrong is wrong…
Normal
September 15th, 2009
3:07 pm
MIKE: When your words are as powerful as yours, you don’t need to use names like hypocrite. Still friends under different flags?
Matilda
September 15th, 2009
3:12 pm
AtAt doesn’t presume much, does she? *snerk*
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 15th, 2009
3:14 pm
A real vengeance-free peacenik now, are we? You’re not turning liberal are ya?
The modern day enslavers are radical Islamists, they routinely butcher, bomb, torture and commit many other unspeakable acts against the innocent people that they seek complete control over, do tell us, who speaks out before these filth against us? As though we have made them act the way they do?
Obozo, maybe?
Imagine if this moron had been French and came to speak on behalf of the white slave holders in the Civil War era, blaming it on the actions of France in the Revolutionary War.
He would have been hung by the neck.
mike
September 15th, 2009
3:14 pm
Normal –
“Still friends under different flags? ”
Absotively
@@
September 15th, 2009
3:17 pm
Matilda:
I most definitely don’t presume the black community is not capable of achieving on their own. I see too many that have to support the liberals’ misconception of who black people are.
AmVet
September 15th, 2009
3:19 pm
“Barack Obama is not useful (you said that yourself)…”
Please cite.
How many more times will you intentionally misquote, misrepresent/speak for me?
How many?
Even a rough guess might be helpful here, @@.
But your point otherwise is not altogether unfounded.
Affirmative action? Forced busing? Words that make “conservatives” blood boil.
And misguided as they may have been, they were at least a halting step away from the “separate but unequal” philosophy of the “conservative” 1950s America.
And the”conservatives” supposed solutions? (insert pregnant pause here…)
I stand by my assertion – “conservatives” who are almost always loathe to change, even the very worst things among us, and have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the modern world, did next to nothing…
WHITE Welcher, red herring much?
Keep grasping and desperately trying to change the subject.
Angry Black Man, like many before him, sized you up perfectly last night.
And your reply, “I ain’t dodging nothin’”
Public Option Now.
September 15th, 2009
3:21 pm
Public option now always discusses issues. He calls you all Repubozoputzotards because that’s what you are. Collectively, the Republican party has never been dumber or more racist. And this manifests that becaue of your poor education, you can’t discuss issues.
Every claim is a lie. Wilson claimed to be an immigration lawyer; he never was. You put up 10 year old pictures of your rally last weekend which had 60,000 people up to 3rd street and claimed that in fact it was 600,,000 to 2 million people but the DC Fire Department made it clear that 3rd street= 60,000. The people interviewed there were so stupid they had no idea what the definition of socialism was, what a public option was, and when a satirical group gathered to make fun of them they joined in stupidly not realizing it was satire.
You’re the party of Palin and it shows.
Real
September 15th, 2009
3:21 pm
DebbieDoRight 2:52 pm
Thanks, You’re correct and my apologies to AmVet — I’ve corrected my post below —
Real: AmVet 1:58 pm — “They” always have an excuse or someone else to blame for “their” lot in life! Perhaps “they” should try a bit of self reliance and responsibilty in place of “their” constant entitlement expectation and generational government dependency!!!
AmVeterinarian - Practicing in Farm Animals with a specialty in Swine.
September 15th, 2009
3:22 pm
I am woman here me ROAR!
AmVeterinarian - Practicing in Farm Animals with a specialty in Swine.
September 15th, 2009
3:26 pm
Pubic Option – What are you yammering about?
Matilda
September 15th, 2009
3:28 pm
Sorry AtAt, I got the part about how you just KNOW what everyone else thinks and which churches do what, and who donates and volunteers and who doesn’t, who gives to Heifer Int, and who wears psychological chains, etc. You must know a LOT! But your 3:17 makes no darned sense whatsoever.
William
September 15th, 2009
3:28 pm
DebbieDoRight
Wow, I guess the jews, franks, gauls, greeks, chinese, neanderthals and the rest of the world was never been treated so badly. I pity you and your race. I hope the best for you.
Public Option Now.
September 15th, 2009
3:30 pm
The white racist repubozoputzotards can’t stand it and are wall to wall and continuously livid that a black man is in the white house cleaning up the messes they were obvliviously and stupidly making.
The repubozoputzotards are trying to come between doctors and their patients. 73% of doctors in the large NEJM poll published yesterday want public option. 77% of patients in 4 recent large polls want public option. Repubozoputzotards want continuous insurance price gouging and to continuously destabilize Medicare by forbidding competitive bidding in Part D.
You’ll never ever see a repubozoputzotard here dig in and discuss exponentially rising insurance premiums, deductibles, and the dropping of 14000 a day in the US predomninantly because they get sick and insurance companies don’t want to pay out.
You’ll never see and I haven’t seen a Repubozo explain why Bill Frist and the Repubozos set up Medicare in 2003 to forbid competitive bidding on drugs when every hospital from Piedmont to Pill Hill to Kennestone Wellpoint to Emory Healthcare enjoys the big price break of competitive bidding for drugs via consortium.
These topics are like a third rail to the racist repubozoputzotards. They want their white man in the white house. They want their country back they say, meaning they’re proud to be poor and dropped by their insurance companies when they get sick. They think they’re immune from serious illness.
Why are the repubozos here trying to get between doctors and their patients? We know why the ones in Congress are–they’re on the payroll of insurance companies.
You’ll never see a rapubozo here take this on:
http://healthcarereform.nejm.org/?p=1790&query=home
Call it like it is.
September 15th, 2009
3:31 pm
“DebbieDoRight”
I have to admit your posts amuse me the most. You are the very definition of why racism, hate and bigotry will never end in our lifetime.
According to you, pretty much all of Washington’s monuments were made by whom exactly? Are we to understand that all of DC’S monuments were made by blacks and Hispanics? Hate to break it to you, but I don’t go to DC and look at the Viet Nam Memorial and WWII memorial and think boy I sure am proud of all of the white people. And I bet no one else does either.
And WET wouldn’t allow your voices to be heard? What?
Sanford and Son, Bill Cosby, Family Matters, Chico and the Man, Good Times, Martin, The Jefferson’s, Heck even Star Trek, First interracial kiss, black woman in a leading row, Korean in a leading row, and this was in the 60’s.
My problem now, is when I choose to watch a movie on BET, I now have to explain to my daughter why its say “BLACK BUSTER” instead of block buster. Or maybe as a white man I am not suppose to be watching BET. In regards to Univision or Telemundo, don’t you believe that has more to do with the language barrier?
January – December is WHITE history month. That statement alone shows your heart.
We raise money for “OUR” colleges, same as above. We keep these colleges because it reminds us of how far we come. Who is not letting go of the past now.
Deny the Holocaust, To whom is this directed to?
Robbed the Indians. YOU ARE RIGHT! And guess what your race did too. Ever heard of the Buffalo Soldiers? And at this moment they are raising funds to build a grand monument to them in El Paso. There’s a quandary for you. A statue for your race, yet they contributed to the destruction of the American Indian. What will you do?
Debbie you are awful quick to point out the weakness in the white race, or you able to do it to yourself?
Think about it.
AmVeterinarian - Practicing in Farm Animals with a specialty in Swine.
September 15th, 2009
3:33 pm
Pubic Option – please seek help immediately!
Hef
September 15th, 2009
3:36 pm
DDR@2:16-That was my point all along,this hate thing though a minority in all races is out there. Will it ever go away,sadly doubtfull. Yes,media outlets will take advantage,some for noble purposes,some for the ratings.
josef nix
September 15th, 2009
3:39 pm
Call it like it is:
“Ever hear of the Buffalo Soldiers?”
A message from the Tsalagi-Chatah Unmentionable–
“Hallalujah, praise Jesus, SOMEbody else out there knows!”
DebbieDoRight
September 15th, 2009
3:46 pm
@@: This is for you, DDR. You dig deep into your pockets to support your colleges, your own people? My church, for as long as I’ve been attending, has supported The UNCF (United Negro College Fund). The United Methodist Church is among one of their biggest contributors. The International Heifer Program with donations going to Africa where real poverty is reality, not something that politicians get to define so that they can project for the T.V. screen.
@@ I was responding to Eli Jones’ post. I’m perplexed though, you make a comment to me about my posts, but none about Jones’ erroneous posts. Why?
Call It….: I was responding to Eli Jones’ post. I’m perplexed though, you make a comment to me about my posts, but none about Jones’ erroneous posts. Why?
William: I was responding to Eli Jones’ post. I’m perplexed though, you make a comment to me about my posts, but none to Jones’ erroneous posts. Why?
GoingBroke
September 15th, 2009
3:54 pm
“Congressional Black Caucus member suggests that failure to rebuke Joe Wilson is like backing racism”
Gee.. looks like Drudge isn’t the only one that likes to flame people and draw attention..
@@
September 15th, 2009
4:07 pm
AmVet:
Please cite.
Here ‘ya go:
AmVet
September 14th, 2009
1:38 pm
I contend that BHO is NOT a good candidate for the average (in economic terms) person of color. You went on to say because he (Obama) doesn’t
blah
blah
blah.
Affirmative action? Forced busing?
Absolutely necessary in historical terms. I know of few conservatives who would have argued against them now or at the time. It was old democrats what done that.
I’m of the opinion that blacks ARE equal. It’s the Democratic party that keeps reminding them they’re not.
I have to pat my on the back here. My neighbor called the other day…one of my many black neighbors…one of many whom I admire and respect for a myriad of reasons
He’s become very active in the Tea Party movement. Is actively engaged in sit-downs with reps (David Scott) and local conservative leaders like Herman Caine, Deborah Honeycutt. Anyway he wanted to thank me for drawing up the sign he carries with a message that is far more inflammatory than anything I would have chosen but I asked him what he wanted the sign to say. I followed his instructions. He seems to think THAT sign has been the most photographed in Georgia.
I was happy to penne his thoughts with a BOLD BLACK MARKER.
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September 15th, 2009
4:15 pm
Matilda:
A recent study was done and reviewed by some liberal. The liberal was sad to report that “his kind” were all talk and little action when it came to charitable giving. That includes both in time and money.
You can take it up with him. He’s the one who reviewed the facts as presented.
Tom
September 15th, 2009
4:22 pm
Talk radio all over the country is echoing Drudge, even though now the police are backing off the racial angle. They’re calling for these black kids to be tried as adults and sent away to prison for life. I hope you realize what is going on here, they’re trying to Jena Six them!
DebbieDoRight
September 15th, 2009
4:26 pm
Yesterdays Democrats are Today’s Republicans. EXAMPLE: Ronald Reagan, Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helm, Elizabeth Dole.
Bosch
September 15th, 2009
4:29 pm
And of course, all that “charity” giving is given to their churches.
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September 15th, 2009
4:30 pm
Debbie:
Maybe my post came off as too accusatory. I was responding to this:
We raise money to fund our colleges because that’s our traditions.
Sometimes…just sometimes it would be nice to have Christians represent something other than a target of liberalism. The colleges would go empty were it not for those who financially help them to attend.
All too often many, of the liberal persuasion, (here and elsewhere) sit silently by while we conservative christians are bombarded with attacks for no other reason than to diminish our existence…shake our foundation with the intention of crumbling it.
It ain’t gonna happen but the audience here seems to take pleasure in watching their efforts to try.
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September 15th, 2009
4:37 pm
Bosch:
You would prefer charitable giving move through politicians? Find out how your church handles charitable giving. I can assure you, the bulk of our giving does not go to our overhead expenses. We have done everything in our power to cut back on those so that we could reach out and help, not only our community, but overseas as well.
It has definitely been a struggle to get to this point. You’ll just have to forgive us the need to congregate.
josef nix
September 15th, 2009
4:44 pm
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If I’m not mistaken Bosch is one of G-d’s Frozen People and they do have a pretty good record in the charity department. They’re just discreet. What we Jews call a first class mitzvah.
RNB
September 15th, 2009
4:45 pm
Re: Jay’s 11:49 a.m. comment: Jay, that may be the weakest rationalization I have seen in the last year and this has been a good year for rationalizations. To paraphrase Tolstoy (and bowdlerize a little): The difference between racism on the part of whites and racism on the part of blacks is the difference between dog crap and cat crap.
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September 15th, 2009
4:46 pm
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DebbieDoRight
September 15th, 2009
4:48 pm
@@ I was not saying anything derogatory about Real Christians; I was making a point that Blacks have UNCF drives because that’s how we’ve funded the colleges for years. It started from going church to church and door to door. Although I grew up mostly Catholic, (who’s coffers are almost boundless); I still respect and understand the drive behind blacks, some poorly educated themselves, putting together their pennies, nickles and dimes to support “their” colleges.
The dig on the Christian Coalition — that is what it is. I have no respect for them or their causes. However Real Christians are a totally different matter. Real Christians don’t have “agendas” or “clauses or contracts” that you need to navigate in order to be a part of God’s Love.
As I stated earlier, I was answering to Eli Stone’s derogatory, inflammatory remarks about minorities. It amazes me that people like him will say “_____________ (fill in the blank); need to stop depending on the Government and do things for themselves”, and then turn around and say black/hispanic/ethnic owned enterprises like BET and Telemundo are “racists”, because they cater mainly to blacks/hispanics.
Hypocrites, agitators and liars distort truths to bend them to fit their own ideologies and agendas; but I’m glad that there are people on this board/blog, yourself included, who aren’t afraid to call them out on it. I’m sure not going to let a blatant racist rant like what Eli Stone posted go without a rebuttal; that would be so un-Debbie-like.
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September 15th, 2009
4:57 pm
josef:
I think Bosch is Episcopalian. I don’t know if they’re considered frozen or not. My issue with Bosch is that he seems to think the church is less than forthcoming when it comes to charitable works. He mistakenly thinks the effort is too organized.
What he fails to acknowledge is that there’s power in numbers.
Debbie:
I don’t support identity politics. Unknowingly I did at one time. It serves no purpose but to divide. The Democratic Party’s entire platform is built upon the spoils of identity politics.
josef nix
September 15th, 2009
5:04 pm
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“I don’t support identity politics. Unknowingly I did at one time. It serves no purpose but to divide. The Democratic Party’s entire platform is built upon the spoils of identity politics.”
Divisis et impera…worked in Gaul and it’s working now, but since my “identity” is disinvited, it’s all academic!
@@
September 15th, 2009
5:05 pm
…and josef, I have to qualms about sharing God’s blessings. Several of our newest members were in search of a way they could be of service. Not just attend a service…BE OF SERVICE.
What good is a light that shines beneath a basket. I did a children’s sermon this past Sunday — “The Five Finger Prayer”
Put others first and yourself last when asking for his blessings.
I’m outta here.
DebbieDoRight
September 15th, 2009
5:10 pm
@@ : So true.
Well the most beautiful girl in the world just came home with her mom. I’m going to play with her (and spoil her), before I have to go off to the office tonight. Have a great evening everybody!!
TnGelding
September 15th, 2009
5:31 pm
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 15th, 2009
11:44 am
It’s been nearly evenly divided for years. It depends on what your definition of great is.
Part XVIII:
“Army reservist beaten in front of child”
“A man beat an Army reservist in front of a Morrow Cracker Barrel, yelling racial slurs at her as he kicked her in the head, Morrow police said. The assault happened in front of the woman’s 7-year old daughter, who stood there, crying, witnesses told police.”
http://www.ajc.com/news/clayton/army-reservist-beaten-in-138917.html
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September 15th, 2009
6:00 pm
You so funny, josef.
I’m sitting here pondering the chicken/egg question. Which part of josef came first?
All embryos start out female until the “Y” chromosome kicks in. You were destined, through lineage to be white. That makes you a white, caught in the middle embryo. Undeveloped through the lack of political action.
J/K josef. I’m thinking about starting a movement in your behalf. Civil Unions for EVERYONE unless a union falls under the Grandfather Claus.
Mary…josef and the immaculate conception.
josef nix
September 15th, 2009
6:11 pm
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I needed that. I’ve been forced above by one of my greatest detractors to put on the spike heels instead of the moccasins I wanted to wear today! Chicken or egg? I’ve got a great cartoon of a female egg with a sour look on her face and a satisfied rooster lying in bed and she says “well, I guess that answers that question.” I know, not the most polite, but funny anyway!
But, I guess I WAS cracked in the egg!
RollerGirl
September 15th, 2009
9:43 pm
Jimmy Carter, will you PLEASE follow Ted Kennedy’s footsteps and please DIE soon..brain cancer, liver cancer, whatever it takes.
RollerGirl's Mother
September 16th, 2009
11:40 am
RollerGirl, will you PLEASE follow Ted Kennedy’s footsteps and please DIE soon!!??!! Brin cancer, liver cancer, whatever it takes……..