Open thread on Obama’s health-care speech
“Instead of honest debate, we have seen scare tactics. Some have dug into unyielding ideological camps that offer no hope of compromise. Too many have used this as an opportunity to score short-term political points, even if it robs the country of our opportunity to solve a long-term challenge. And out of this blizzard of charges and counter-charges, confusion has reigned.
Well the time for bickering is over. The time for games has passed. Now is the season for action. Now is when we must bring the best ideas of both parties together, and show the American people that we can still do what we were sent here to do. Now is the time to deliver on health care.”
– From President Barack Obama’s
prepared remarks, 9/9/09
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Normal
September 9th, 2009
8:53 pm
Didn’t listen, it’s above my paygrade.
Normal
September 9th, 2009
8:55 pm
I’ll read all the doomsday rhetoric tomorrow, gonna sleep the sleep of the blissfully ignorant tonight. G’night all…
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 9th, 2009
8:58 pm
$10 a chance, name the first lie that emerges from TelePrompter boy’s mouth, winner takes all.
I got “revenue neutral,” bwa.
RW-(the original)
September 9th, 2009
9:02 pm
I thought this was supposed to be thirty five minutes. Quit infringing on Wipeout you clown and if you want a speech to America do it without your jack in the boxes slowing things down
Midori
September 9th, 2009
9:03 pm
did you hear that SCUMBAG from SC yell out “LIAR?”
I didn’t know Andy was from SC….
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 9th, 2009
9:08 pm
Oh, that’s too bad, I missed it.
I’ll just have to wait until tomorrow night’s presidential plea to save his health care reform/ poll numbers.
I’m so looking forward to it.
RollerGirl
September 9th, 2009
9:10 pm
Whoever yelled LIAR is getting me as a campaign volunteer!
Go To Hell Obama!
RollerGirl
September 9th, 2009
9:11 pm
I can;t wait to see the overnight polls show Obama flopped tonight, and how Jay will spin it as simply the uninformed masses who obama needs to help despite themselves.
Zach
September 9th, 2009
9:14 pm
Best speech ever. I don’t think anyone could disagree with what he said
Bosch
September 9th, 2009
9:14 pm
I’m so glad I voted for Obama – and i have a very unhealthy middle school crush on Olympia Snowe.
Midori
September 9th, 2009
9:15 pm
BOSCH!!
I’M JEALOUS!!!
Angry Black Man
September 9th, 2009
9:18 pm
Bosch!!!
Angry Black Man
September 9th, 2009
9:20 pm
RollerGirl
Why would you want him to flop? I’m just curious.
TaxPayer
September 9th, 2009
9:20 pm
Who was that ignorant dipwad that yelled out the lie during the speech. Someone said the person was from South Carolina. Uneducated brats.
godless heathen
September 9th, 2009
9:23 pm
Obama’s plan will get a bump from his speech tonight that will last through the weekend. Next week the people will begin to think clearly again and the “favorables” will resume the glide path of a rock.
demwit
September 9th, 2009
9:23 pm
Yes, how unseemly to call a lie a lie, he should have sat there and just drooled like I did.
Midori
September 9th, 2009
9:25 pm
Tax,
it was Joe Wilson, R-NC
RollerGirl
September 9th, 2009
9:25 pm
ABM, I want him to flop because of fundamental ideological differences. Obama sees the government as a cure all, i say life is full of problems, Most come from government..(I am a small business owner and government compliance is a full 20% of my overhead).
Midori
September 9th, 2009
9:25 pm
OOPS — I meant South Carolina.
who is not surprised?
RollerGirl
September 9th, 2009
9:26 pm
Joe Wilson for prez!
Bosch
September 9th, 2009
9:26 pm
Midori,
Don’t worry – Olympia Snowe could learn lessons from you! What a great speech – and kudos to Obama for telling those obstructionists to go f&ck themselves!
TnGelding
September 9th, 2009
9:27 pm
Well, I just caught the end after I got back form walking the dog and feeding my neighbors, but I sure didn’t see any humility. What I saw was a dynamic advovate. We’re in good hands. Let’s see if the GOP accepts the challenge or continues its petty devisiveness. Can’t wait to see the replay later, and let the pundits tell me what he said.
TaxPayer
September 9th, 2009
9:27 pm
Obama has called out the pack of idiots and corporate tools that have been spreading the lies such as death panels and other bull. Now, the ball is back in their court. Let’s see if they will continue to make a$$es of themselves.
Bosch
September 9th, 2009
9:27 pm
roller girl,
did you watch the speech? or do you just obstruct as a knee jerk reaction?
Angry Black Man
September 9th, 2009
9:27 pm
I missed the part where somebody screamed out. I bet his/her constituents are quite proud of the representation they are receiving. I’m interested in seeing how this debate will shape up over the next few weeks
Midori
September 9th, 2009
9:28 pm
and the dipstick who gave the GOP rebuttal (Boustany of Lousiana)?
1) Has been sued for medical malpractice 3 times
2) He is a birther
3) Fell for a scam to buy the British title “Lord”
TnGelding
September 9th, 2009
9:29 pm
RollerGirl
September 9th, 2009
9:10 pm
You need to learn to listen better.
A full 20%!
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 9th, 2009
9:30 pm
“bickering,” eh?
What a tremendous and deep respect our “president” has for our ability to comprehend and reason.
It’s always so rewarding to be talked down to by the privileged elite.
TnGelding
September 9th, 2009
9:30 pm
Midori
September 9th, 2009
9:28 pm
I guess that answers my question.
TnGelding
September 9th, 2009
9:31 pm
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 9th, 2009
9:30 pm
You’re inferior! Live with it!
TaxPayer
September 9th, 2009
9:31 pm
Thanks Midori. I suppose he can return home to a heroes welcome in his home town and Hannity and Rush and Foxy News, et al, can proudly proclaim his childish rant as healthy dissension. The little runt needs to learn some manners before he goes back out in public.
Midori
September 9th, 2009
9:32 pm
anytime, Gelding
TnGelding
September 9th, 2009
9:32 pm
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 9th, 2009
8:58 pm
Your jealousy is showing!
Angry Black Man
September 9th, 2009
9:33 pm
Fair enough RollerGirl. I can definitely respect your opinion, kudos for being a small business owner. I’m also of the opinion that sometimes the government tries too hard to be the save-all. In the case of health care costs, I kinda think there has to be a middle ground. If there’s no government intervention, we’re at the mercy of the health care industry to control themselves. I know from working in retail, the first priorty for a business is profitability. I just don’t see the insurance companies willing to curb their profitability even by the smallest amount to provide affordable coverage to those who can afford it the least but need it the most.
Midori
September 9th, 2009
9:33 pm
get this, Tax, Gelding, Bosch:
GOP’s Site: It’s “not permissible to use language that is personally offensive to the President”
http://rules-republicans.house.gov/Educational/Read.asp...
References to the Senate or Executive Branch
Until the 109th Congress, it was not in order to make certain references to the Senate or individual senators. However, at the beginning of that Congress, the House removed the prohibition on making references to the Senate, leaving only the requirement that debate be confined to the question under debate and avoid “personality.” The precedents of the House allow a wide latitude in criticism of the President, other executive officials, and the government itself. However, it is not permissible to use language that is personally offensive to the President, such as referring to him as a “hypocrite” or a “liar.” Similarly, it is not in order to refer to the President as “intellectually dishonest” or an action taken by the President as “cowardly.” References to the Vice President, in spite of his role as President of the Senate, are measured against the standard used for the President rather than prior standards used to govern the Senate.
TnGelding
September 9th, 2009
9:34 pm
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 9th, 2009
9:08 pm
The sad thing is you really are, and hoping they continue to drop, despite the continuing evidence things are getting back on track.
TaxPayer
September 9th, 2009
9:35 pm
TnGelding
September 9th, 2009
9:31 pm
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 9th, 2009
9:30 pm
You’re inferior! Live with it!
Kudos!
godless heathen
September 9th, 2009
9:35 pm
Did he call out the Democrats that have blocked the passage of the HC bill(s) so far?
RollerGirl
September 9th, 2009
9:36 pm
I watched the speech, It was pure increased government, re-packaged. His goal is single payer..he knows it isn’t viable in one fell swoop..this is first step. Luckily it will fail.
It WILL fail, and it WILL fail because of democrats, not republicans.
WHIP COUNT: DEMS LACK THE VOTES
Wed Sep 09 2009 17:03:37 ET
At least 44 more moderate Members of the Democrat Caucus have gone on the record in opposition to the current health care bill in the House, a Hill source claims. Likewise, at least 57 liberal Members of the Democrat Caucus have gone on the record saying they will vote against a health care bill without a strong public option.
the 44 includes Barrow and Marshall here in GA
Civility Now
September 9th, 2009
9:37 pm
The president did a great job of spelling out what’s at stake here, and not just in terms of health care, but in terms of our country’s future. If we can’t make real progress this time, we’ve got bigger problems than just this or that issue — we’ve got a system of government that’s fundamentally flawed. It will prove that we need campaign finance reform before we can ever get health care or any other kind of real reform.
I watched the Republican response, too, and glaringly absent were the kinds of consumer protections that President Obama spelled out. If we don’t hold the insurance companies accountable, there’s no real reform.
Midori
September 9th, 2009
9:38 pm
thank you Civility.
Angry Black Man
September 9th, 2009
9:38 pm
Not surprising, the commentators on Fox News thought he fell flat. They said he wasn’t specific enough. I guess the next time, he needs to have step-by-step, color-coded instructions pre-printed and ready to pass out to all interested.
Carole
September 9th, 2009
9:40 pm
I just now went to the website of Congressman Joe Wilson, SC and sent him a “nice” little e-mail. I feel much, much better!
godless heathen
September 9th, 2009
9:41 pm
This is what you get when a community organizer with the experience of voting “present” in the Senate. Obama thinks you get things done by demeaning our opponents. This impresses Midori and Gelding but will fail at getting anything accomplished. Thank goodness.
Kamchak
September 9th, 2009
9:42 pm
Yes, how unseemly to call a lie a lie, he should have sat there and just drooled like I did.
I remember when the “lie” was “weapons of mass destruction,” and the word wasn’t “unseemly” it was “unpatriotic.”
Angry Black Man
September 9th, 2009
9:42 pm
Civility
It’s up to the free market to hold themselves accountable. If the government tries to hold them accountable, the the government is over-reaching their power.
Civility Now
September 9th, 2009
9:42 pm
Shame on Joe Wilson for his deplorable behavior during the president’s speech. I hope the voters of South Carolina vote him out of office for his lack of civility and respect.
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 9th, 2009
9:42 pm
If there’s no government intervention, we’re at the mercy of the health care industry to control themselves.
ABM- I know you libs are geniuses and all that but the biggest problems with private health insurance coverages arise directly from government intervention.
Try studying instead of spouting.
And, by the way, you should have seen the things these bookman pinkos said about public servants in the last blog.
They hate you, dude.
Just like they hate this whole country.
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 9th, 2009
9:44 pm
I just donated 1K to Joe Wilson, SC.
Bravo, my man.
jokerman
September 9th, 2009
9:45 pm
“and i have a very unhealthy middle school crush on Olympia Snowe.”
Bosch, have you had an eye examine lately?
TaxPayer
September 9th, 2009
9:47 pm
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 9th, 2009
9:42 pm
If there’s no government intervention, we’re at the mercy of the health care industry to control themselves.
ABM- I know you libs are geniuses and all that but the biggest problems with private health insurance coverages arise directly from government intervention.
Try studying instead of spouting.
And, by the way, you should have seen the things these bookman pinkos said about public servants in the last blog.
They hate you, dude.
Just like they hate this whole country.
Your claims also keep getting more inferior as time passes.
Sinthia is a pile of #$%&
September 9th, 2009
9:47 pm
Who can answer this? He says he is not going to allow illegals access to the plan. Is he going to completely DENY any healthcare to illegals? What if they are in an accident and are half dead. Do the EMT’s just leave them lay on the pavement until they either recover or die? Don’t get me wrong. This illegal alien thing has me hot under the collar but, he is not realistically addressing what will happen to them when they need healthcare. WE WILL STILL BE PAYING FOR THEM SOMEHOW, SOMEWAY AND IT REALLY PISSES ME OFF!
AmVet
September 9th, 2009
9:48 pm
In my considerable experience, the NEWLY outraged (BTW where TF was all of that during the past eight years of deadly debacles and incessant screw ups???) don’t care a whit about the specifics.
For the more rabid that are overly represented here, it’s all about dogma.
He ain’t one of them, so the details are insignificant.
They act as though single-payer is akin to the second coming of Hayzeus, the Mexican false-savior. (Or is it anti-christ, I always get those mixed up. Maybe a trip to the creation museum is in order!)
Fortunately their nasty voices and unevolved corporatist-controlled ideology are going the way of the political dodo.
TaxPayer
September 9th, 2009
9:49 pm
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 9th, 2009
9:44 pm
I just donated 1K to Joe Wilson, SC.
Bravo, my man.
Finally, something from Andy that I can and do believe to be fact. Good show, Andy. Bravo.
Truth
September 9th, 2009
9:51 pm
CAN SOUTHERNERS GET ANY DUMBER? BUSH WAS A COMPLETE MORON WHO LEFT THE COUNTRY IN A MESS AND THESE IDIOTS HAVE THE NERVE TO TALK ABOUT OBAMA?
Angry Black Man
September 9th, 2009
9:51 pm
I report
I’ve never been one for popularity contests, so I really wouldn’t care what people think about me. I only worry about who I let into the country. I would just love to see the government take a hands off approach to all free enterprise for a period of 2 years. No regulation, no control. I personally think that the country as we know it would cease to exist. The power of greed and corruption would consume the legitimate business, causing a complete collapse of the economy or our current pseudo-economy.
Civility Now
September 9th, 2009
9:51 pm
Well, Angry Black Man @9:42, I guess I’m not aware of any free market when it comes to health insurance. Or any power to enforce accountability that I have as a consumer. I pretty much have two choices through my employer — take it or leave it. And individually, I can buy insurance at an exhorbitant cost (thankfully I have no preexisting condition that I know of), then despite having paid premiums in full and on time, be dropped when we get sick because I forgot to disclose some unrelated condition!? So, how, as an individual, am I to hold these companies accountable? We the people formed our government to advocate for us. That’s not an overreach of power; that’s exactly the power that government is supposed to have.
godless heathen
September 9th, 2009
9:52 pm
So Obama wants to require me to buy health insurance similar to auto insurance. Can he be that stupid, or believe that we are.
I’m not required to buy auto insurance. I’m not required to buy boat insurance. I’m not required to buy airplane insurance. But if I breath air in America I am required to buy health insurance?
Any hope for health care reform is as done as the Christmas goose. The arrogance of Barak Obama killed it.
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 9th, 2009
9:52 pm
Taxxie- You are welcome to google “portability federal regulation” and see first hand how those who ruined private health insurance now want to, check this out, “fix” it.
RollerGirl
September 9th, 2009
9:54 pm
I believe the oppoite..you would see TRILLIONS flood into the usa..think Hong Kong in the late 80’s early 90’s..Heaven on Earth..obama is much like the red chinese star choking it off and imposing state control.
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 9th, 2009
9:56 pm
ABM- If you take away all choice from We The People, then you have no choice in who you do business with and, conversely, who gets rewarded for providing the best service.
Instead, you get the Post Office.
Angry Black Man
September 9th, 2009
9:56 pm
Sinthia is a pile of #$%&
According to laws passed previously, anyone showing up at emergency rooms can not be denied treatment. It has nothing to do with insurance. That’s where people are misled with the whole illegal argument. Visitors coming to this country legally usually have some kind of travel insurance. If they get sick or hurt, they’re covered. Some people come here to have their children. They show proof of insurance and ability to pay the bill, and they’re allowed to use our medical system. Those who are here illegally can’t get insurance coverage. They cannot usually afford to visit private practices, so they go for treatment where they can’t be turned down, the emergency room. Until there’s a better way to track and remove illegals, you’re going to have to face the fact that as long as they go to the emergency room, we’ll all be paying the bill.
TaxPayer
September 9th, 2009
9:56 pm
So, what is the Republican solution. Still the same old do nothing. Wouldn’t life be grand if we could all get paid to do nothing — like Republicans.
Midori
September 9th, 2009
9:59 pm
Tax,
you forgot about phase 2 of their “solution” — call everyone who doesn’t agree with their lunacy a “doody head”.
@@
September 9th, 2009
9:59 pm
Couldn’t tell….did Obama DEMAND the public option or did he let the libs down gently?
I’ve seen him deliver better speeches.
TaxPayer
September 9th, 2009
10:00 pm
I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:
September 9th, 2009
9:52 pm
Taxxie- You are welcome to google “portability federal regulation” and see first hand how those who ruined private health insurance now want to, check this out, “fix” it.
Andy,
You are welcome to make your case. So far, I have not seen it.
Midori
September 9th, 2009
10:01 pm
omg!!
Wiki just locked Wilson’s Wiki page after this was posted: http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_kpqekwDQyU1qz7y4vo1_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&Expires=1252634260&Signature=I5eyJ9959ygoWy0p294lShHyE0Y%3D
TW
September 9th, 2009
10:01 pm
The GOP would do itself well not to drink so much before such an event…whew…waving their porn in the air, heckling like they were in church, and did they really stay seated at the idea that Americans have heart and character?
geez…
And was that Gingrey with his hand in his pants? Didn’t recognize him without Rush’s backside pressed to his face…yeah…another proud night for GA in Washington
Angry Black Man
September 9th, 2009
10:01 pm
Civility
I should have put a disclaimer on that 9:42. That’s one of the points I’ve picked up from people who believe the free market is greater than government.
I report
So, if the government went completely hands-off, would that eliminate choices for We the People? I’m not completely following you on your last post.
godless heathen
September 9th, 2009
10:04 pm
Taxpayer,
How about letting people buy health insurance across state lines? How about not requiring healthy young men to buy maternity insurance? How about tort reform to reduce all the CYA testing? How about a loser pays litigation system? How about not outlawing health savings plans? How about setting up some government clinics where the poor can see a doctor instead of overloading the emergency rooms.
Lots of ideas out there.
Angry Black Man
September 9th, 2009
10:05 pm
Midori
That’s funny!!!
Angry Black Man
September 9th, 2009
10:06 pm
Godless
Don’t buy insurance in Alabama. There’s not much to choose from.
F. Sinkwich
September 9th, 2009
10:06 pm
Yo, godless, your post makes too much sense. Flames are sure to follow.
Midori
September 9th, 2009
10:06 pm
ABM –
i’m still chuckling
Sinthia Tucker
September 9th, 2009
10:10 pm
That guy that yell out “LIAR!!!” sho do have him some balls. Me like that a lot.
TaxPayer
September 9th, 2009
10:10 pm
godless heathen
September 9th, 2009
10:04 pm
Taxpayer,
How about letting people buy health insurance across state lines? How about not requiring healthy young men to buy maternity insurance? How about tort reform to reduce all the CYA testing? How about a loser pays litigation system? How about not outlawing health savings plans? How about setting up some government clinics where the poor can see a doctor instead of overloading the emergency rooms.
Lots of ideas out there.
I’ll take ‘em all, right along side every single one that Obama talked about. How ’bout you.
Kayaker 71
September 9th, 2009
10:12 pm
Let’s do 5 things prior to passing a health care bill:
1. Get out of bed with the trial lawyers and pass meaningful tort reform.
2. Let’s stop giving free health care to illegals. California could especially benefit from this.
3. Instill the option to buy health care insurance across state lines.
4. Admit the fact that if Medicare and Medicaid are suffering from billions of dollars in mismanagement and incompetence, why isn’t the government doing something now to eliminate fraud and abuse? We don’t need to pass a health care bill to get this done.
5. Quit criticizing those who oppose you. The “transparent administration” has reached a point where it is obvious that it is my way or the highway for Bozo and his crowd.
We do need to reform the way we do business in the health care market. Just not the way that Bozo and his minions have it planned. This whole fiasco is dead before the vote.
TaxPayer
September 9th, 2009
10:12 pm
Whatever you do, don’t try to buy health or life insurance if you live in Anniston, Alabama.
Sinthia McKinney
September 9th, 2009
10:12 pm
Wilson was just speaking the truth. Why chastise the man?
dbc
September 9th, 2009
10:13 pm
Welcome to the new “racism” in America. Instead of black and white, may I introduce you to Republican and Democrat. This country is slowing spinning down the drain.
Bosch
September 9th, 2009
10:13 pm
jokerman,
Why yes I have, have you not? That woman is spectacular – much like our beloved Midori – although I’m convinced they’d have a difference of opinions — that’s what makes our women great!
Kamchak
September 9th, 2009
10:14 pm
That guy that yell out “LIAR!!!” sho do have him some balls. Me like that a lot.
Then that must make you a—–nah too easy.
TaxPayer
September 9th, 2009
10:14 pm
. Quit criticizing those who oppose you.
Got credibility. Bozo.
Angry Black Man
September 9th, 2009
10:14 pm
Hey TaxPayer, that’s close to home. Good thing I’m a Georgian now.
Tall
September 9th, 2009
10:15 pm
Yes, the President did a great job of stating the obvious, without offering any way to pay for this “plan.”
Some of the suggestions he offered could already be taken care of in the free market. The “insurance exchange” for example. Why not allow insurers to compete across state lines and not have to deal with all of the mandates? If that were to happen tomorrow, you would see real choice in the insurance markets.
The respective states could subsidize the uninsurable with an “assigned risk pool” similar to the one that exists for high risk automobile drivers. It’s easy to villanize the insurance industry, but most of the underwriting guildelines they follow are set by the states they do business in. They have a fiduciary obligation to protect the policy holders they have. If they can’t, they either leave the state(like New York) or tighten up the underwriting process.
Forcing the insurers to eliminate the “pre-existing conditions” clause defeats the whole purpose of having insurance in the first place. You might as well wait until you have problems to start paying for it.
dbc
September 9th, 2009
10:17 pm
Sorry I meant slowly, but a Republican I was translating for was slurrrrrring their words…
@@
September 9th, 2009
10:17 pm
It appears as though Obama did, in fact, lie. Why not call him on it? He said he was gonna call out anyone who misrepresented “the plan”.
WASHINGTON, Aug. 26 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — Tuesday, the Congressional Research Service (CRS), the “research arm” for the United States Congress, issued a report validating an analysis by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), that illegal aliens would be able to receive benefits under the House health care reform bill, America’s Affordable Health Care Act of 2009 (H.R. 3200).
S
September 9th, 2009
10:19 pm
Tonight we saw a Great American give a speech on Healthcare that will benefit the masses. How anyone can find fault with these Ideas to help those in need is just plain UN American. What a powerful speech to those of us that care about America. Those ogres who screamed out their spew, may you be damned forever, how disrespectful. Joe Wilson R of South Carolina, you sir, are a Moron.
TaxPayer
September 9th, 2009
10:20 pm
ABM,
Anniston is a good example of what you get from the chemical industry if you leave them unregulated. Nothing is greater than the almighty buck to some.
Angry Black Man
September 9th, 2009
10:24 pm
Sounds like you’ve been there before. It’s amazing to me that they’d put a facility like that in close proximity to people. But like you said, it’s all about the buck. I heard a figure today that was like $300 mil plus has been spent by lobbyists on the healthcare debate this year. Just imagine what that $300 mil plus could do in the hands of those who really need it.
godless heathen
September 9th, 2009
10:26 pm
Taxpayer,
The government requiring me to buy insurance to breath American air is one FU proposal.
dbc
September 9th, 2009
10:27 pm
Wilson is nothing but another South Carolina redneck chasing the almighty dollar. Forget about hard work or morals. The nut jobs and malcontents of America are the ones who get the lucrative book deals or TV shows. Look for disgraced Governor Sanford and Wilson to share the same publisher. Maybe they can piggy back with the “Octo Mom.”
Atlanta Bob
September 9th, 2009
10:28 pm
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/seven-falsehoods-about-health-care/
H.R. 3200: Sec 246 — NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS
Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.
Sinthia McKinney
September 9th, 2009
10:28 pm
I’s sho could use sum dat dolla!
S
September 9th, 2009
10:28 pm
Tort reform, a non issue. Just try and sue in Georgia/Florida and in other states. The states themselves have almost set it up where you can’t sue hospital’s Dr.’s etc. Look it up for yourselves.
RollerGirl
September 9th, 2009
10:29 pm
Joe Wilson gave B. Hussein the same respect the libs gave Bush..screw civility..I despise the left and I hope it’s mutual, I wouldnt want to get any winter solstice or kwanza cards and not have anything to send them in return.
Sinthia McKinney
September 9th, 2009
10:30 pm
Alright Atlanta Bob, then who is going to pay for the illegals trip to the emergency room to have a baby or when they get knifed or shot up?
Appalled
September 9th, 2009
10:32 pm
Jay… do you feel the need to take a couple of showers after people get finished posting on your blog? Or do you just ignore them?
TaxPayer
September 9th, 2009
10:32 pm
godless heathen
September 9th, 2009
10:26 pm
Taxpayer,
The government requiring me to buy insurance to breath American air is one FU proposal.
So, you are not in favor of compromise or factual debate, just more of the same old hyperbolating.
Sinthia McKinney
September 9th, 2009
10:33 pm
I really can’t believe Obozo actually used the parallel of auto insurance to health insurance and the required coverage by law. If I don’t own a car OBOZO, then I don’t have to buy auto insurance. He said that right on national television.