Cheney still pitching the lunacy that cost him Bush’s ear

A large segment of the Republican Party is rallying behind former Vice President Dick Cheney as its champion on matters of defense and national security. They look to him and increasingly to his daughter Liz as their spokesmen in defense of torture, in support of military solutions to problems such as Iran and North Korea, and overall as advocates of a much more aggressive, unilateral approach than that taken by President Obama.

Yet the Cheney fans seem to forget that by the second Bush term, even President Bush had largely stopped listening to the crazy man whispering in his ear. The Bush White House ordered a halt to “enhanced interrogation techniques” that Cheney defends as necessary even today. Over Cheney’s protests, Bush forced Donald Rumsfeld to resign as secretary of defense, replacing him with the more level-headed Robert Gates, who remains SecDef under Obama. Under Gates and newly appointed Secretary of State Condi Rice, the Bush administration in its second term took a less confrontational and arrogant approach to advancing U.S. interests overseas, leaving Cheney sitting on the sidelines and muttering to himself in frustration.

Cheney himself has more or less acknowledged that trajectory, suggesting that in his upcoming book he will outline where he believes Bush went wrong in his second term. He confirmed another important aspect of the narrative over the weekend in an interview on Fox. As the Wall Street Journal describes it:

WASHINGTON — Former Vice President Dick Cheney hinted that, in the waning days of the Bush administration, he had pushed for a military strike to destroy Iran’s nuclear-weapons program.

“I was probably a bigger advocate of military action than any of my colleagues,” Dick Cheney said, regarding Iran and its nuclear ambitions.

In an interview on Fox News Sunday, Mr. Cheney described himself as being isolated among advisers to then-President George W. Bush, who ultimately decided against direct military action.”

Cheney’s viewpoint on the efficacy of military action against Iran was rejected not just by Rice, Gates and ultimately by Bush, but also by most of the generals and admirals at the Pentagon. They would be the ones forced to deal with the consequences of cowboyism, and they wanted no part of it. An attack on Iran in the waning days of the Bush administration also would have coincided with and compounded the economic collapse that occurred in the same time frame, with global ramifications we can only imagine.

The former vice president, in other words, is a nut, and history will show that his colleagues in the Bush administration eventually came to realize it and isolate him for that reason. The fact that Cheney still has an audience and a following despite that record might seem strange until you realize that hey, so does Glenn Beck.

233 comments Add your comment

stands for decibels

August 31st, 2009
8:28 am

But Jay, that other thread was just getting interesting.

(Not.)

Mrs. Godzilla

August 31st, 2009
8:29 am

“The former vice president, in other words, is a nut”

some times you feel like a nut….this time we don’t.

Peadawg

August 31st, 2009
8:30 am

And some people are still listening to Obama despite all the lies that have spewed out of his mouth.

Peadawg

August 31st, 2009
8:31 am

How many murders has Obama caused in Afghanistan? I lost count of how many stories came out the past month. At the rate he’s going, he’ll surpass Bush’s murders in Iraq.

Mrs. Godzilla

August 31st, 2009
8:32 am

Cheney Claims Detainee Torture Was Merely ‘End-of-Life Counseling’

here:

http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=8561

tee hee hee

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

August 31st, 2009
8:32 am

Are you saying an attack on Iran is off the table in the Obozo administration?

Hillary Clinton on Iran: All Options on the Table

ew, I told you she was “crazy.”

Mrs. Godzilla

August 31st, 2009
8:33 am

McCain pushes back against Cheney: Interrogations violated law

here:

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/mccain-pushes-back-against-cheney-interrogat

stands for decibels

August 31st, 2009
8:34 am

Yet the Cheney fans seem to forget that by the second Bush term, President Bush had been instructed by Karl Rove to (largely) stop listening to the crazy man whispering in his ear.

Fixed Jay’s typo.

TnGelding

August 31st, 2009
8:37 am

I saw part of the interview and he looked very confident, but maybe it was just a facade. What would the Bush presidency have been like if he had selected a different VP?

Turd Ferguson

August 31st, 2009
8:37 am

After Obobo finishes all but destroying this Country it will be Cheney that leads us from this land of ineptitude.

Cheney/Palin 2012!!

Lord Help Us

August 31st, 2009
8:38 am

Normally, when an elected official goes off the reservation as far and often as Cheney, they at least have enough dignity to shut up and go away.

This fruitcake, despite his assurances about Saddam Hussein’s nuclear weapons, how we would be greeted as liberators, his role in exposing a covert CIA agent just to get his puny revenge…(my gosh, the list could go on forever).

When has this buffoon been right???

Sooner or later the Republican party will figure out that unless it finds some basic decency and common sense, it will become even more insignificant.

Kamchak

August 31st, 2009
8:39 am

The fact that Cheney still has an audience and a following despite that record might seem strange until you realize that hey, so does Glenn Beck.

No doubt that many of the same individuals support both of these men. Cuckoos of a feather…

Finn McCool

August 31st, 2009
8:40 am

Cheney is fighting to preserve his legacy.

Personally, I think he’s evil.

Gale

August 31st, 2009
8:40 am

Reporter @ 8:32. I thought conservatives were the ones saying we shouldn’t tell our’enemies’ that we won’t attack them? If Hillary came out and said we would not attack Iran, I bet you would call her out on that too.

Tea

August 31st, 2009
8:40 am

Right on Turd. Let’s put the “death” back in “death panels”!

catlady

August 31st, 2009
8:41 am

I don’t think there is a single cabinet-level member of Bush’s that should have any credibility with the public. And Cheney should be in jail, pure and simple, along with Rove and Bush and a few others. Hold them for a few years in Gitmo type conditions, do a little “enhanced interrogation”, and listen to them sing. Traitors should be prosecuted.

I’d love to see him in an orange jumpsuit with his new best friend and protector, Bubba, filing motion after motion which would be ignored.

Finn McCool

August 31st, 2009
8:43 am

Conservatives, you might want to start claiming the bailouts now. Get a jump start, ya know?

Is TARP Profitable?
The huge government bailout could have cost taxpayers $700 billion. Now it looks like it might break even.

http://www.slate.com/id/2226517/
Investors have seen other returns from the CPP. Treasury in July converted the initial $25 billion CPP loan to Citi into common stock, at a price of $3.25 a share. The U.S. taxpayer now holds 7.69 billion shares. Given its close Thursday at $5.05, taxpayers have reaped a $13.8 billion paper gain from this investment—a 55 percent return in about a month.

Turd Ferguson

August 31st, 2009
8:44 am

“Personally, I think he’s evil.”

LOL…whats that supposed to mean? And as a followup no one really cares what you think because we already know. You think whatever is most self-gratifying or whatever obobo wants you to think.

stands for decibels

August 31st, 2009
8:46 am

McCain pushes back against Cheney: Interrogations violated law

McCain is on the TeeVee so much, he almost can’t help but say something that makes sense, eventually.

Lord Help Us

August 31st, 2009
8:47 am

I cringe at the hypocrisy of Cheney and the other Torquemada’s (sp?) decrying how an investigation into the CIA’s torture is demoralizing that agency.

This turd is either delusional or just assumes that his followers are as dumb as a box of rocks.

After listening to Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bush throw the ‘few bad apples’ under the bus when the earliest evidence of torture came to light should tell you all you need to know about their character.

I said ’should’ of course, which acknowledges that people without brains or the ability for independent thought will willfully ignore the obvious.

Grow a pair, cons…

Doggone/GA

August 31st, 2009
8:47 am

“What would the Bush presidency have been like if he had selected a different VP?”

Don’t you mean what would it have ben like if he’d chosen a VP? Don’t forget, Cheney was put in charge of choosing the VP candidate and he chose HIMSELF!

Paul

August 31st, 2009
8:47 am

Interesting second paragraph. Jay ascribes some positive remarks to Pres Bush, demonstrating a change in direction, new ideas and learning from the past.

Concepts about the former president many bloggers here seem unable to comprehend.

Turd Ferguson

August 31st, 2009
8:47 am

“I’d love to see him in an orange jumpsuit with his new best friend and protector, Bubba, filing…”

Well thats not gonna happen so just get over yourself.

Kamchak

August 31st, 2009
8:47 am

Hold them for a few years in Gitmo type conditions, do a little “enhanced interrogation”, and listen to them sing. Traitors should be prosecuted.

Yes they should be prosecuted, but torture is antithetical to what this country stands for–torture is wrong period.

TnGelding

August 31st, 2009
8:48 am

I spent 30 minutes composing an entry to the biz blog and it’s being held in moderation, probably never to be released. Just shoot me!

Paul

August 31st, 2009
8:48 am

sd 8:46

Eventually? Where you been for the past few years? McCain’s been loudly consistent on that -

Turd Ferguson

August 31st, 2009
8:49 am

Relax sheeple…there will be no prosecution of VP Cheney. Give it a rest and get back to your froot loops.

Call it Like It Is

August 31st, 2009
8:50 am

Let’s write on the Socialist, Racist and what he has done.

Uh, let’s see…Nothing! Cheney way better than that dumb ass Biden.

I mean, come on, give me a break!

The Rebublicans rebound in the next election.

Enough Said!

Doggone/GA

August 31st, 2009
8:51 am

“obobo”

Who’s that? Does he post here?

Paul

August 31st, 2009
8:52 am

Kamchak

Do you agree all the items listed by the CIA Inspector General as EITs are, in fact, torture? And that the standard interrogation practices are not torture?

Lord Help Us

August 31st, 2009
8:52 am

Don’t you mean ‘Lemonade,’ Turd…

Doggone/GA

August 31st, 2009
8:52 am

“This turd is either delusional or just assumes that his followers are as dumb as a box of rocks”

They aren’t mutually exclusive

TnGelding

August 31st, 2009
8:52 am

Doggone/GA

August 31st, 2009
8:47 am

Yeah, when he changed his voter registration I knew we were in trouble. I was trying to come up with a name but drew a blank. Would anyone of stature have even accepted?

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

August 31st, 2009
8:52 am

Well, it figures these cut-and-runners would be against a war with Iran and Cheney. I say as long as we got the military all ginned up, we might as well go after Iran too. Oh, I know there will be a few libruls that point out some of our troops don’t have radios or ammo or pants to wear, but that guy in the picture in Afghanistan seemed to fight pretty good in his pink underwear without pants or a radio. Heck, let them fight buck-nekkid if it will keep me and mine safe from the Terrists.

But no, they won’t stop till they see a picture of Cheney and Rumsfeld and My President in leg irons and handcuffs and doing a frog-march off to prison. That’s why this country is going to heck in a handbasket.

If this Obama had any decency he would fire this AG for letting them go after my Republican heros.

Have a good day everybody.

TnGelding

August 31st, 2009
8:53 am

Paul

August 31st, 2009
8:47 am

But did it come too late?

Algonquin J. Calhoun

August 31st, 2009
8:54 am

Bring Bush and Cheney to trial for their many war crimes!

Bosch

August 31st, 2009
8:54 am

It’s all really quite simple as I’ve been telling you all for weeks now:

Dick Cheney is evil.

He needs to take a clue from GWB and slither back into his undisclosed location and STFU.

stands for decibels

August 31st, 2009
8:55 am

Eventually? Where you been for the past few years? McCain’s been loudly consistent on that -

Oh, I know (and I’ve been known to have quoted some of McCain’s more eloquent moments, spoken from personal experience, on the topic). I just needed an excuse to gripe about McCain getting so much more TeeVee time than (say) Kerry did after he lost.

Later, kids. Try not to shoot anyone in the face while I’m gone.

yowsa

August 31st, 2009
8:56 am

yowsa

August 31st, 2009
8:57 am

“Bring Bush and Cheney to trial for their many war crimes!”

Pelosi and Obama too.

Kayaker 71

August 31st, 2009
8:57 am

Bookman,

Beck still has an audience, at last count the second best one on news television. All of these people who watch him are “nuts”? What a crock. Have you ever listened to this man? Are you some type of armchair critic who labels everyone who disagrees with him a nut case? I challenge you and every one of Beck’s critics on this blog. Tell me one thing that he said during last week’s five shows that was not correct in it’s content. One thing. He has received no challenges from any major news network, the White House or any credible news outlet. His critics are killing the messenger, not the message. You might not like the guy, some don’t. But stop calling him names just because he is saying what you won’t admit or do not like to hear. He and his message will not go away, Bookman, at least for the millions that watch him.
Bozo’s numbers are dropping like a rock, at last count, 45%. Are all of the 55% of those who don’t buy his BS also “nuts”? Save your criticism for Cheney but leave Beck out of it. He doesn’t belong there.

Lord Help Us

August 31st, 2009
8:57 am

One day I will learn to forgive that low-level bureaucrat in Palm Beach County, Florida that designed the butterfly ballot that got Bush/Cheney elected.

I wish we had been able to see how much better off this country would be…

Doggone/GA

August 31st, 2009
8:59 am

“Yes they should be prosecuted, but torture is antithetical to what this country stands for–torture is wrong period.

yes it is…but Cheney has a bad heart, so “EIT” for him would not even approach torture for someone healthy. Of course we’d still have to deal with the morality issue, but it’s something to contemplate at least.

Kamchak

August 31st, 2009
8:59 am

Do you agree all the items listed by the CIA Inspector General as EITs are, in fact torture?

Not familiar with “all the items listed.” Care to elucidate?

And that the standard interrogation practices are not torture?

See above.

The General

August 31st, 2009
8:59 am

I’ve covered for you lots of times Dick, cause I thought you was crazy. But you’re not crazy, you’re mean.

Paul

August 31st, 2009
9:00 am

TNGelding 8:53

It’s never too late – :-)

yowsa

A key test of if this is politically motivated or not: will the special prosecutor put the Speaker under oath and ask “what did you know and when did you know it?”

Taxpayer

August 31st, 2009
9:00 am

The former vice president, in other words, is a nut

I couldn’t have summed him up better myself. He and Kristol should get together and bake a Claxton™ since they could comprise both the fruit and nut content. I must say though that I was hoping for much more when I read the headline over the weekend that McCain ‘whacked’ Cheney. A good “beetch slap” might be just what the doctor ordered to snap him back to reality.

Mrs. Godzilla

August 31st, 2009
9:00 am

yowsa

love the new nomme de plume du hour

stands for decibels

August 31st, 2009
9:00 am

Oh, one last thing:

Save your criticism for Cheney but leave Beck out of it.

Leeeeavvvve Glenn Beck aloooooooooooooone!!!!

jconservative

August 31st, 2009
9:00 am

As I write this there are 26 comments posted. No one has disagreed with Bookman’s premise that the Bush administration isolated Cheney from policy after the 2004 election. Not even Cheney disagrees.

If Cheney was wrong in 2005 – 2008 then he is probably wrong today.
If Cheney is correct today, then he was correct in 2005 – 2008 and Bush was wrong & no better than Obama.

History teaches that we will not actually know who was correct for about 50 years.

Doggone/GA

August 31st, 2009
9:01 am

“froot”

What’s a froot? Have you been taking Engrish lessons from George?

Lord Help Us

August 31st, 2009
9:02 am

Yowsa, Nobody with any credibility ever said we should not have sent our troops into Afghanistan. Many, including yours truly, thought the decision to dilute that effort and go into Iraq was a HUGE mistake…still do.

However, comparing the casualties in Afghanistan under Bush to Obama after Obama’s 8 months in office proves how stupid you are.

Are you implying a change of strategy in Afghanistan or just being a retard?

GEORGE AMERICAN

August 31st, 2009
9:03 am

WE NEED MORE BRAVE AMERICANS LIKE DICK CHENEY WITH THE CAHONES TO STOMP ON THESE LITTLE PUNK COUNTRIES WHO ARE STANDING IN THE WAY OF AMERICA. AND GIVE TERRORIST WHAT THEY DESERVE!!!

HE WOULD MAKE A GOOD RUNNING MATE WITH SARAH PALIN – THEY WILL BRING AMERICA BACK TO #1 !!!

Doggone/GA

August 31st, 2009
9:06 am

“Would anyone of stature have even accepted?”

That’s a good question, but given that the R nominee for Pres had no stature…would it have even mattered?

Turd Ferguson

August 31st, 2009
9:06 am

Rest assured. There will be no prosectution of VP Cheney. If it makes you all feel better then keep whining, squawking and belly-aching.

AHH HAHAHAAHA!!!

Cheney is laughin at you!!

CHENEY/PALIN 2012.

Mrs. Godzilla

August 31st, 2009
9:06 am

JAY BOOKMAN

9:03 ain’t me (obviously)

and whatever it is just keeps getting angrier….

Kamchak

August 31st, 2009
9:07 am

Of course we’d still have to deal with the morality issue,…

My point exactly.

…but it’s something to contemplate at least.

No, it really isn’t. Prosecute them, then perp walk them to The Hague.

Taxpayer

August 31st, 2009
9:08 am

catlady

August 31st, 2009
8:41 am

If Cheney were subjected to his own approved list of tortures, he’d be telling the world how he flew one of those planes personally. But, I’m just speculating. We need proof. Hard evidence. I’m thinking pictures and memos.

Dave

August 31st, 2009
9:08 am

I think I view Cheney a lot like I view Putin in Russia some like an authoritarian figure who will rule with an iron fist and tell you it is good for you Some of you loved the Bush Cheney imperial presidency with most of the power in the presidents hands. Now you hate an Obama imperial presidency. Be careful what you give to a president they rarely give back powers they are given.

Lord Help Us

August 31st, 2009
9:09 am

Lefty Turd at 9:06…the thought of that ticket and the comedic value that it would deliver would make it worth the ridicule this country would receive…think about it…

Lord Help Us

August 31st, 2009
9:10 am

Come on Yowsa, grow a pair…are you suggesting a strategy change in Afghanistan? Are are you just a retard…

Cherokee

August 31st, 2009
9:11 am

What I thought was funny was the softball interview from Chris Wallace – what a moron…

Doggone/GA

August 31st, 2009
9:11 am

“new nomme de plume du hour”

Minor correction: heur

Cherokee

August 31st, 2009
9:12 am

Oh please let it be so, GEORGE – Cheney/Palin in 2012…

oh please…..

Gordon

August 31st, 2009
9:12 am

Still stuck in the Bush/Cheney years. It’s a shame there is nothing better to talk about if you’re on the left. I know, I know…all of our problems today are because of Bush, and Obama is just cleaning it up.

Why doesn’t Jay write a column about how much money the health care reform bill is going to save us despite the CBO’s claims to the contrary? Or how the cap and trade bill won’t have any negative effect on the economy? No, instead let’s talk about something really relavent, like how a former VP didn’t agree with everything a former president did, and a journalist’s expert opinion on the mental state of said VP. And before any of you lefties say it, conservatives talking about Bill Clinton is no better.

Doggone/GA

August 31st, 2009
9:13 am

“AND GIVE TERRORIST WHAT THEY DESERVE!!!”

Only one? Are you sure that will be enough?

Cherokee

August 31st, 2009
9:14 am

Timing is everything Gordon. We’re still cleaning up the Cheney/Bush messes. So the discussion is relevant.

Clinton is ancient history.

Paul

August 31st, 2009
9:15 am

Kamchak

Sure. As I posted last week after I’d read through the IG report, items I thought were torture were standard practices and items I thought were standard practices were torture.

I thought the loud music, cold rooms, isolation, a day or two of no sleep were torture. Nope. The IG said those were standard practices used by law enforcement and military interrogators (pg 29).

I thought putting your palms on a detainee’s face, you know, palms on cheeks, fingers well away from eyes, was just a way of saying ‘look at me when I’m talking to you.’ Just like we’ve seen parents do with kids. Nope. That, my friend, is torture. So’s grabbing them by the collar.(pg 15).

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/20090825-DETAIN/2004CIAIG.pdf

I’m off to the gym but look forward to your thoughts on this. Most people want to keep on general statements and not get down to specifics. Understandable, I suppose, ’cause they see what happened when lawyers for Pres Bush got specific. But it doesn’t do much for common understanding if people want to speak in nothing but general slogans.

Anyhow, back in a while -

Doggone/GA

August 31st, 2009
9:15 am

“Be careful what you give to a president they rarely give back powers they are given”

Progressives I know have been saying that for 8 years…but would “they” listen? Nope. Now it’s down to “you reap what you sow” isn’t it?

Mrs. Godzilla

August 31st, 2009
9:18 am

Thanks Doggone/GA

even with my faux french…..it seemed to shake up old whatever’s his name is now….

Lord Help Us

August 31st, 2009
9:19 am

Oh Lord, forgive me. I was trying to ask Yowsa a question, but apparently he is just one of those Town Hall/Birther freakjobs that just wants to scream insanely…

Alas, this is now the picture of the opposition party…lovely.

jim watson

August 31st, 2009
9:19 am

mr holder did not do this on his own, this is the presidents work a simple cover up to divert attention from the real agenda. what he wants to do is print money untill the country goes broke, and at the sane time declare all twenty nine million illegals citizens and then readistribute the wealth of america. and by the way every bodys life savings will be worthless,understand, he and his people could care less about the america we all know.

Mrs. Godzilla

August 31st, 2009
9:19 am

faux bravery…at this moment thy name is yowsa…..

what’ll it be later?

Paul

August 31st, 2009
9:20 am

Lord Help Us 9:02

[[Nobody with any credibility ever said we should not have sent our troops into Afghanistan.]]

And that was nearly a decade ago. And under Pres Obama it could be another decade. As far as casualties, each month for the past couple has set a new record for American deaths. And it continues.

That’s the problem -

later -

Road Scholar

August 31st, 2009
9:21 am

Turd and Peadawg: I find it interesting or is it a coincidence that your names (and opinions) allude to human waste?

“And as a followup no one really cares what you think because we already know.” Take your own advice, please.

Truth

August 31st, 2009
9:21 am

Yeah Jay… There you go. Just like the rest of your friends taking a shot at Beck with nothing to back it up. I have really only watched his show in the past week, but from what I saw, he is begging for hacks like you to find a flaw in what he says.

Lord Help Us

August 31st, 2009
9:21 am

Yes, Mr. Watson. Your President HATES America…(and, shhhh, he also has a deep seated hatred of white people…)

Turd Ferguson

August 31st, 2009
9:22 am

Obobo enjoys seeing our young men/women dying in afghanistan. Obobo hates America and wants to destroy it.

Gordon

August 31st, 2009
9:24 am

“We’re still cleaning up the Cheney/Bush messes. So the discussion is relevant.”

Cherokee, please explain how the opinions of a former V.P. about something that DIDN”T HAPPEN 8 months ago are relavent.

Donovan

August 31st, 2009
9:26 am

Bookman wears his liberalism like a cheap suit when he finds the reason for making his enemy, Pres. Bush, look like a sensible man while excoriating his arch enemy, V.P. Cheney. Bookman and all of his blogging liberals forget that it was Dick Cheney who was responsible for helping win Gulf I and it was the compassion of a Republican president that stopped the victorious war for humanitarian reasons. However, it was the “back-home” liberals who later questioned the move as not going all the way to Baghdad to finish the job. These same liberals forgot the fact that George Bush and Dick Cheney used their incredible resolve and character to fight off Islamic retribution and kept America safe for 8 years. Simply put, you liberals are the bad guys, not them. Dick Cheny does not bow to Saudi rulers nor does he apologize to the world about America. You liberals are solely responsible for that and all the harm that will come your way from such self-hatred and appeasement. Back in the days of George Washington you liberals would have been the silent majority applauding and supporting Bennedict Arnold. Shame on you.

Doggone/GA

August 31st, 2009
9:27 am

“he is begging for hacks like you to find a flaw in what he says.”

Wait until you see him cry…then you’ll just be SO overwehelmed with sympathy for him you’ll break all records.

Taxpayer

August 31st, 2009
9:27 am

The title of Dick’s book — “I AM RELEVANT. I AM.!”

Joey

August 31st, 2009
9:27 am

Cheney continues to stand by the positions he took as VP. Consistant and honest.

How is Bookman different? Well he has never set around a table to help make a decision that affected the US and the World. Yet Bookman continues to pitch the same political positions regarding those decisions and the people who do make them. Consistant? Still: Republican wrong, Democrat right. Honest? Not so much.

An aside:
It was never clear to me if Bookman expressed an opinion as to whether lying to terrorist or making threats to harm the families of terriorist constituted torture.

Road Scholar

August 31st, 2009
9:28 am

Turd: You are totaly dilusional! Your comment is absurd. Who, except for Cheney, would want our servicemen to die, regardless of the venue?

Lord Help Us

August 31st, 2009
9:30 am

Joey, here’s a simple question you can ask yourself about torture. Look in the mirror (try not to cry…) and ask yourself, is this was an American serviceman or servicewoman, would I consider it torture.

It’s so easy, even a con can do it…

Buzzthekiller

August 31st, 2009
9:34 am

Jay- your ongoing obsession with all things Bush and Cheney is revealing…and your last swipe of Glenn Beck is pure jealousy…you would love an audience the size of his.

Jackie

August 31st, 2009
9:35 am

What will happen if Cheyney is ultimately found guilt of charges brought against him? Will that lead to Dubya, Gonzalez, Addison, Yoo, Libby, Rumsfeld and others being found guilty?

If found guilty of charges, does the so-called neocon conservatives rise up in revolt to start what they perceive as a revolution?

These folks and their criminal activities have created major problems for the world and the USA specifically by their extreme ideology.

Turd Ferguson

August 31st, 2009
9:36 am

Obobo hates the military. Were it up to him he would desolve the military and instigate some ill-conceived compulsary volunteer unarmed thought police brigade.

Obobo enjoys our soldiers dying such that he might begin a pullout. Obobo probably lays awake at night thinking about soldiers dying and laughing like one of the drunken Kennedy klan

Fly-On-The-Wall

August 31st, 2009
9:36 am

I do get curious when folks like GEORGE AMERICAN say things like “HE WOULD MAKE A GOOD RUNNING MATE WITH SARAH PALIN – THEY WILL BRING AMERICA BACK TO #1 !!!”. What does that really mean – Bring us back to #1?? What does #1 really mean?

Just curious…..

Turd Ferguson

August 31st, 2009
9:38 am

Jackie

August 31st, 2009
9:35 am

Dont wet yourself over the thought. There will be no trials, convictions etc. Bank on it!

Mrs. Godzilla

August 31st, 2009
9:39 am

Didn’t I see Jay note recently that GEORGE AMERICAN may be a big fat fake?

Yankee

August 31st, 2009
9:39 am

Is it me or isn’t CHENEY like SCROOGE that stays around ALL YEAR. Please do us all a FAVOR and go back to your ” UNDISCLOSED LOCATION…………………..AND STAY THERE UNTIL YOU HAVE YOU HAVE HOPEFULLY YOUR NEXT FATAL HEART ATTACK !!!”

electrician

August 31st, 2009
9:40 am

Mrs Godzilla.. @ 9:06..9:03 most definitely not you.wheres the cyber czar when you need him?

Normal

August 31st, 2009
9:41 am

Like a drowning man clutching a straw…hence the Republican resurgence for Chaney…The poor Republicans want their hay day
back, but everyone knows that hay is the first stage of horse
s**t and Mr. Cheney fits that bill…jus’ sayin’

Kim, Nottingham

August 31st, 2009
9:42 am

What is a Vice President actually for?

Normal

August 31st, 2009
9:43 am

And another thing, for a man who had “other priorities” during Viet Nam, sure is anxious for a fight. Must be a case of “Lets you and him fight, ok?”

Doggone/GA

August 31st, 2009
9:43 am

I’ve had a revelation. I think I know why the conned are so disappointed in Obama. I mean, think about it: they call him the Messiah. They were sure he was going to end the wars in both Iraq and Afghanistan. They thought he could snap his fingers and stop the economic meltdown just like THAT.

And after all, he turned out to be “just” human. No wonder they’re so sad about him.

deegee

August 31st, 2009
9:43 am

Why doesn’t Dick the Hick go back to Wyoming and do some ranching or something? He is responsible for the cluster fornication that the US and it’s allies thrust upon Iraq. He is responsible for misunderstanding how Sadaam Hussein postured for Iran to keep his enemy at bay. He is the one that misunderstood the dynamics of distinct Muslim sects. He is the one that misunderstood the precarious nature of governing the diverse people of Iraq. He is the one that misunderstood the resources necessary to control violence and looting after the invasion. Cheney and his sneering progeny should leave us alone now.

Remnants of Iraq Air Force Are Found

The Defense Ministry revealed Sunday that it had recently learned that Iraq owns 19 MIG-21 and MIG-23 jet fighters, which are in storage in Serbia. Ministry officials are negotiating with the Serbs to restore and return the aircraft. An Iraqi delegation went to Serbia as part of an effort by the government to locate assets stashed abroad by Saddam Hussein to evade sanctions. Serbia had had friendly relations with Mr. Hussein’s government. During that visit, Serbian defense officials told the Iraqis that Mr. Hussein had sent 19 fighter jets to Serbia for repairs in the late 1980s, during the Iran-Iraq war, but was unable to bring them back after sanctions were imposed on his country.”

AmVet

August 31st, 2009
9:43 am

Dick Cheney???!!!

Two words – worst ever.

The only man imaginable in any galaxy who could make Spiro Agnew look good in comparison.

An inveterate liar, and a gutless and deadly buffoon, but Turd and his buddies are correct.

These BushCo criminals will never see the inside of an 8 X 12. (The spineless BHO prefers to “look forward”!)

Even though the neo-cons constantly wiped their ample arses with the most sacred document ever written, the US Constitution. And expect, no demand, all of their shucking and grinning blind sheeple, in the ever-dwindling base, to pay them fealty and to do the same…

Jackie

August 31st, 2009
9:43 am

@Turd

If a trial does happen, how will you handle it? I hope the trauma of the proceedings does give you insight into how a “frog march” is executed.

You may want to prepare your thought process when Karl Rove becomes the first of these exhibit the “frog marching” skill.