Authors of ‘black agenda’ memo step forward

Two professors at Clark Atlanta University have come forward to claim authorship of the controversial “black agenda” memo, reports my colleague Jim Galloway at Political Insider.

In claiming authorship, William Boone and Keith Jennings also try to rebut the harsh criticism generated by the memo, arguing that “the recent suggestion that it is somehow racist to highlight an agenda that promotes the interests of African American voters is patently false. It is a red herring that polarizes debate about electing the most qualified candidate for Atlanta’s next mayor.”

“The interests of African American voters are just as legitimate as other Atlanta voters, and the notion that we must apologize for highlighting those interests is absurd,” the two professors now write.

And you know what? They’re absolutely right. They do not need to apologize for highlighting the legitimate interests of black Atlanta voters. As they point out, “The need for African American voter and taxpayer interests to be addressed by all candidates is just as legitimate as it is for candidates to respond to issues raised by the Atlanta Chamber of Commerce, Georgia Stand-Up, Central Atlanta Progress or any Neighborhood Planning Unit (NPU).”

Amen.

Unfortunately, the original memo written by Boone and Jennings went well beyond advocating an agenda for African American voters and seeking commitments from mayoral candidates to support it, as they now try to describe it. In several places, it postulated that a black mayor, and only a black mayor, could be trusted to represent the interests of black Atlantans.

“Time is of the essence because in order to defeat a Norwood (white) mayoral candidacy we have to get out now and work in a manner to defeat her without a runoff, and the key is a significant Black turnout in the general election,” they wrote.

“The view that the times are too serious to stand on the sidelines is absolutely correct from the perspective of a black mayor at all cost,” they further argued. “In fact, if a white candidate were to win the 2009 mayoral race, it would be just as significant in political terms as Maynard Jackson’s victory in 1973.”

That’s what was controversial. That’s the argument that drew deserved criticism. They, not their critics, introduced “a red herring that polarizes debate about electing the most qualified candidate for Atlanta’s next mayor.” And in their claim to authorship and their defense of the original memo, Boone and Jennings do not address or even acknowledge that fact.

That’s disappointing.

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josef nix

August 31st, 2009
6:48 pm

Well, K’chak? Gotta run, but I’ll be back like a bad penny. Denisse from below ought to be checking in here!

md

August 31st, 2009
6:49 pm

Thats called CYA.

Brad Steel

August 31st, 2009
6:50 pm

Hell has no fury as that of righteous academics with perceived moral authority.

These guys will never admit that even an iota of their agenda is wrong.

Ernest

August 31st, 2009
7:19 pm

They were wrong, plain and simple.

josef nix

August 31st, 2009
7:21 pm

Well, as they said back when Maynard went in, my how the mighty have fallen. What goes around, comes around.

Bubba

August 31st, 2009
7:22 pm

Gosh, I’m shocked, SHOCKED that it’s come to this. Is this not what the reviled Limbaugh, Boortz, et al have been saying all along: Today’s black “leadership” is just as racist as Bull Connor and Lester Maddox. They have perverted King’s message.

Nothing is Free

August 31st, 2009
7:41 pm

Jay

**In several places, it postulated that a black mayor, and only a black mayor, could be trusted to represent the interests of black Atlantans.**

But Jay, that is a common belief. You are not going to convince a black person that a white person would have their better interest in mind. This reverse racism that has been heavily promoted and used extensively by the Democratic Party, is the backbone of so many Black candidates. Do I need to again remind you of the demographic split in the support of Obama?

You can’t support a party that has used racism as a tool in one way or another for over 100 years and all of the sudden claim that it is obviously wrong.

You reap what you sow.

godless heathen

August 31st, 2009
7:58 pm

“The most qualified candidate…” As long as they are black.

NYT

August 31st, 2009
7:59 pm

godless heathen

August 31st, 2009
8:06 pm

If a white person can’t represent the interest of Black Atlantans, how can a black man represent the interests of white Americans?

jconservative

August 31st, 2009
8:06 pm

As I have said previously, all they had to do was say that they have examined the records of all candidates for mayor and in their opinion
(insert name) was the most qualified candidate for the future of Atlanta. They did not do so. They inserted race into the election.
And they did it with no help from anyone else.

They did not sign the original memo. Was it out of shame? Just asking.

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

August 31st, 2009
8:12 pm

yaaaaawwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

@@

August 31st, 2009
8:15 pm

This is my favorite excerpt from the original memo:

Time is of the essence because in order to defeat a Norwood (white) mayoral candidacy…

Talk about stripping an individual of their identity other than to point out for the visually and intellectually challenged that Ms. Norwood’s only disability is that she’s WHITE?

So where the heck has Turpeau (sp?) been while all of the AJC columnists were claiming this was his memo? He’s quoted at the WSJ as having responded with this:

Mr. Turpeau, who contributed $500 to Ms. Borders’ campaign, defended the memo’s message.

“You shouldn’t vote solely on having a black candidate,” he said. “You have to deal with the credentials and skill set first. After that, it’s a feeling of pride that we’ve had for 35 years in this town. Ego gets important.”

Good luck with the EGO thingy. It has likely cost Borders, their preferred candidate, the election.

Pigeon holers perched on the ledge…poopin’ on the City of Atlanta.

Too funny.

@@

August 31st, 2009
8:17 pm

Absolutely no paragraph closers in my entire post. The only thing that’s not consistent on this site.

If the AJC doesn’t care, why should I?

Taxpayer

August 31st, 2009
8:29 pm

At least they owned up to their penmanship. That’s a lot more than can be said for many a piece of legislation or ’study’ out there these days.

josef nix

August 31st, 2009
8:33 pm

Just a question–how many posters here and below (memo) live and vote in the city? I don’t mean this in a hostile fashion at all, but it will be up to those of us who do to make the decision. We are aware that who we choose will be the person outsiders identify with the metropolitan area, but our concerns are less that than who’ll fill the potholes, collect the garbage, provide police and fire protection and what have you. The authors of this memo are more concerned with image than they are substance.

RW-(the original)

August 31st, 2009
8:37 pm

If the AJC doesn’t care, why should I?

Because you’re better than them

(ISH)

Class of '98

August 31st, 2009
8:41 pm

You know why I’m proud to be a white man? We were cool enough to give up a lot of our power.

RW-(the original)

August 31st, 2009
8:41 pm

josef,

I don’t but why should I be unconcerned other than just a picture of the office holder in my head? My work takes me to my customer’s place of business on every project I do so many times I’m working in Atlanta or at least driving through and getting someone to fill those craters you call potholes would be pretty nice.

Class of '98

August 31st, 2009
8:42 pm

Ooops, I apologize. As I understand, it is now social unacceptable to claim pride in being a white male.

Class of '98

August 31st, 2009
8:43 pm

Nothing is Free

August 31st, 2009
8:50 pm

@@

**Good luck with the EGO thingy. It has likely cost Borders, their preferred candidate, the election.**

I disagree. I think this throws down the gauntlet. Black people have been taught their entire life that racism on their part is justified and being unified against a white candidate is as strong of a political mantra as there has ever been.

Most Blacks are more conservative than most Republicans on a lot of issues, but Democrats have played the race card for 35 years, telling Black people that any vote for anyone other than a Black Democrat is a stab in the heart of their own people. Black Republicans have been called Uncle Toms to the delight of the DNC. I have seen political ad after political ad with the term ” He is one of US” which clearly means that he is Black. “One of us” cannot be a white person.

I think that this is a rallying cry for any Black person who cares more about a perceived pride in their own race than they care about electing competent leaders.

I think that this will give borders the victory and I will be surprised if there is a runoff.

Dusty

August 31st, 2009
8:52 pm

Sorry, Bookman, but Kyle Wingfield really did a good piece on this subject in Sunday’s paper. He seems to write like a “real” journalist with an open mind and even saw some reasoning in this “black agenda” memo. It had good points which he was able to identify. He also saw the objectionable part but gave a clear analysis overall. I think Kyle is going to be OK to give a bit of balance at AJC.

(josef, I left you a question on the last thread. I’m always behind on the controversies..) .

Bosch

August 31st, 2009
9:01 pm

Class of ‘98,

Care to elaborate on all the power white guys have given up?

and

Nothing is for free,

Care to posts those ads? Or elaborate on how blacks have been told racism is justified?

Wow. Those were some pretty doozies.

josef nix

August 31st, 2009
9:09 pm

DUSTY–got it and responded…not very well, I might add… :-)

Class of ‘98

“…pride in being…”

I’m to the left of most of the so-called liberal posters and the blogmeister, but let me try to say that I come to that perspective from my heritage in the loyalists to a government we can’t mention in a war we can’t mention and the legacy they passed down to me without getting thrown into Moderation…as the Good Book says, “…little wheel spin and spin, big wheel turn around and around…” To which Buffy Ste Marie adds, “…blame the angels, blame the fates, blame the Jews and your sister Kate…” It’s perfectly okay hereabouts to call the denizens of Dixie of the lighter hue whatever you so well choose in terms of the most vitriolic and hateful…

josef nix

August 31st, 2009
9:14 pm

Bosch–see my post above on “white guys.” I don’t presuppose to speak for all white men nor do I not recognize that I am not only a white guy, but am from the priviledged elite among them. I know well enough what this light skin and plumbing bring for advantages. But when someone else goes into the definition business and blaming for all the sins of…then I react there in the same way I do to Denisse in the “memo” thread below…

Ramzad

August 31st, 2009
9:17 pm

Professors Jennings and Boone are affirmative idiots. Their so called Black Agenda memo is unfiltered incoherent garbage. I am delighted that I do not have any one going to Clark Atlanta University. A mind is a terrible thing to waste, and these guys are certified trash men for minds.

The underlying argument is that: “The white people are coming. The white people are coming. Put up a negro blockade, and do it quickly.” This is a transparently racist message, and these scientific charlatans do not even have the guts to admit that they made a mistake. I am black, so this is not more “white paranoia,” as some have attacked whites who have recognize this and are speaking out about this fraud paper called a memo.

Let us analyze their arguments: “Unity of purpose and position” should mean to look at the candidates’ speeches, writings, endorsements, positions on issues, voting records, etc. to find the most progressive and competent- across the board. It should not be to “defeat Norwood (white) mayoral candidacy,” because the “professors” had already admitted that “perhaps the most critical factor is the lack of an agenda against which to evaluate candidates. So; what this says is that before we even develop a yard stick to assess the candidates against their records, let us eliminate Norwood, because she is white. If that is not racist then Lexington,Kentucky have beachfront real estate.

Let’s dig a bit more into the, so called, memo. “The reason support should be given to Lisa Borders is she is the best black candidate.” Are we looking for the best candidate or only the best black candidate? Excuse me? Additionally, the “profs” have already stated that the candidate assessment yard stick is yet to be created, but they want a de facto coronation for Borders. Because? “she is the best black candidate.” No yardstick needed. In other words, we do not need to assess Lisa Borders, because she is black. Are these guys really teaching at a US University? Heaven help us..Dear God.

Let us go into the memo a bit further. The morons want to knock out Norwood before a run off happens, and blacks to line up behind Lisa Borders, but then, particularly as political scientists, they have the unmitigated gall to expect that “she….can attract downtown white support” If there is pretty much an electoral conspiracy to defeat Norwood- even if Borders wins, which white support is Borders going to get governing? Maybe the argument is that whites will be irrelevant. It would be a home grown version of Shites versus Sunnis all over again; pretty much a political race war. Maybe that is what these guys are trying to build.

“The impact of current alienation among Black Atlantans from the political establishment” These two blockheads can’t even admit that Black Atlantans are the political establishment, and are responsible for “the persistent poverty in the city, the educational crisis in the schools; the human/public safety concerns; the type of economic development policies being pursues….” We are to tackle these entrenched problems with Lisa Borders, because she is black even though we have not found a way to assess her potential. Ain’t this the most infantile reasoning I have ever heard?

Heaven help black Atlantans if these are the types of people they have telling them what to do. It is so refresing to have a mind of my own.

they have blown their opportunity.

josef nix

August 31st, 2009
9:29 pm

RW–then there are the candidates who are more concerned with your concerns than mine…I generally vote against them… :-)

RW-(the original)

August 31st, 2009
9:33 pm

josef,

Thanks a bunch. /sarc :-)

Nothing is Free

August 31st, 2009
9:35 pm

Bosch

I could take a long time and look up opinions of other people or even find statistics that show demographic tolerances toward advertisements that show a specific demographic being represented as having more credibility with that particular demographic.

But really, it just all comes down to living in Atlanta for close to thirty years. I once had tickets to The Kings of Comedy tour when it came to Phillips. My wife and I went with two close friends that happen to be African Americans. I was amazed at how racist the Steve harvey portion of the show was. At one point, I actually heard Steve Harvey say: White people, I don’t like the MFs. (Except he didn’t say MFs) Standing ovation. Our friends were horrified. Luckily, DL Hugley was fantastic and Cedric the Entertainer was at least as good. They both made racial comments that were both very true and both very funny. But there’s a huge difference between racial and racist.

But Steve Harvey was simply off the wall-racist. Yes I know you are going to say Every Black person does not agree with Steve Harvey, which I completely agree, but with every overt racist thing he said, the cheers were unbelievable.

When he opened the show, he talked about the Kings of Comedy tour drawing the biggest crowds of any comedy tour, ever. He pointed out that if Jerry Sienfeld would have drawn this many people, it would have been front page on Variety (the entertainment Magazine). What he didn’t seem to understand is that if Jerry Sienfeld would have said : Black People, I don’t like the MFs, he would have been out of business the next night.

I know this is old hat, but the Black Miss USA pageant. The Black Chamber of Commerce. The Black Boaters Association. Black Entertainment Television. Replace any of those titles with the word “White and you are immediately branded a racist.

I make a point of not tying individuals to stereotypes, But I just don’t think that there is anything that will get out the Black vote like a Black vs White runoff for the mayor of Atlanta.

if you don’t see that, that’s OK.

I’ve been wrong before.

josef nix

August 31st, 2009
9:35 pm

RW–well, I’m nothing if not honest, eh? :-)

Bill

August 31st, 2009
9:37 pm

The authors’ claim that the original memo was not racist is so unbeleivable that it is laughable.

Take the original memo. Replace each use of the word “black” with the word “white”. Replace each use of the word “white” with the word “black”. Re-read the memo.

Would you consider it racist then? What is the difference?

The thoughts and writings of these Clark Atlant Professors today is no better than that of the White Supremacists of the 60’s. It has NO PLACE in today’s society.

josef nix

August 31st, 2009
9:44 pm

I voted for Arrington in one of our elections. Why? Well, he came down to address the gay folks in Midtown. He said we were mostly white and “we’ve got to keep a few of y’all around for show.” Honesty, not political correctness..

AmVet

August 31st, 2009
9:44 pm

“Today’s black “leadership” is just as racist as Bull Connor and Lester Maddox. They have perverted King’s message.”

Perhaps so.

But the irrefutable fact is that is what happens after 400 years of wholesale brutality, enslavement, murders and subjugation.

What exactly is the “excuse” for the whites here who lived with a relative silver spoon in their mouths?

DoggoneGA

August 31st, 2009
9:46 pm

Experience is what keeps you from making stupid mistakes
You get experience by making stupid mistakes

Whatever else does or doesn’t come of this, they won’t make the mistake the next time of thinking any memos they write will be kept “secret”

josef nix

August 31st, 2009
9:48 pm

Bill–your “replace” is a point well taken. As I said when this whole bru-ha-ha started, “Pot meet kettle, Kettle meet Pot.”

@@

August 31st, 2009
9:50 pm

Nothing is free:

You’re preaching to the choir, dude. I’m hoping Atlanta’s black voters will recognize the memo for what it is. A total lack of concern for all that’s wrong in the city.

There’s a saying “pride will come before the fall”. Pride can be very seductive but at the same time destructive. If ‘ya wallow in it for too long, it’s likely everything will be lost as a consequence. Surely Atlanta’s black ministers preach against the evils of pride.

Unlike Obama, I’m SINCERELY hoping for a change in race relations.

RW:

One thing I know for sure. I’m a better person than jay — no ifs, ands or buts.

josef nix

August 31st, 2009
9:53 pm

AmVet–the Unmentionable says to ask, “do you see us doing it? Black and White alike have profitted from our despoilation but where is our forum? Where is there anything other than an oh-yeah, that’s right, y’all sure got scr*wed. We’re sorry. Now as we were saying before we were so rudely interrupted…”

Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

August 31st, 2009
9:54 pm

I guess no one can complain when I write that Atlanta needs a white mayor to protect the interests of all decent folk, now can they?

David Milton

August 31st, 2009
9:54 pm

The jigging must stop!

Patently false my @ss

August 31st, 2009
9:54 pm

Why is it okay for blacks to have collective unity on certain issues, especially those blacks deem in the best interests of blacks, but not okay to address social problems where blacks are clearly the root of the problem, as any sort of negative generalization is construed as nothing but ignorant racism?

Remind me, what year is it again? 2009? In terms of race relations, aren’t we all supposed to be progressing towards a just, unbiased, ultimately peaceful America by sticking our heads in the sand and pretending that we don’t see any color? How those supposed “professors” could believe that their opinions would be beneficial for anyone is beyond me. I was consumed by apathy before, but now I will vote for Mary Norwood just to spite them and anyone else who shares their patently racist views.

Nothing is Free

August 31st, 2009
9:55 pm

Amvet

“But the irrefutable fact is that is what happens after 400 years of wholesale brutality, enslavement, murders and subjugation.”

So you think it is OK that White people should pay for the sins of our ancestors. Or were you just stating a fact?

Nothing is Free

August 31st, 2009
9:59 pm

You know . . . the worst thing about this is that I’m very uncomfortable talking about this.

I think I’m going to go and have a nice drink and cuddle up with my wife.

Ya’ll have a good night.

David Milton

August 31st, 2009
9:59 pm

You’re quite hostile!

I got a right to be hostile, man! My people are being persecuted!

josef nix

August 31st, 2009
10:03 pm

@@
actually it’s “pride cometh before destruction” and “a haughty spirit before a fall.” But it’s appropriate. I remember back in the flush of “black pride” when my best friend’s mama warned her not to buy into it for the reasons the Bible said. It’s not so much a pride in what “our people” have accomplished as it is the haughty spirit at the personal level that this pride is justification for self aggrandizement.

Rick in Atlanta

August 31st, 2009
10:03 pm

This proves it: Anyone–and I mean ANYONE–can get a Ph.D. I just feel bad for the kids who spent all the money to get a CAU diploma, which has now been instantly devalued by these idiots. If CAU leaders have any cojones, these guys will be gone by next semester.

AmVet

August 31st, 2009
10:06 pm

josef, tell him that we all must seek our own redemption in our way. We all are hopelessly scarred. All of us. We all have to pay the enormous price. We all seek peace for the sins of others that we did not stop. Then or now.

Nothing is Free, I was absolutely convinced that would be the first reply.

See my reply to josef, for your own way.

I’ve made peace with this issue. I was the son a man from Bogalusa, Louisiana. Utterly bigoted. A man of his times.

But I made a very conscious decision a long time ago that that fight was not mine.

Born in rural Kansas I never even met black people until I went to boot camp at the age of 17, and I realized immediately that just like everybody else, there were some good guys, some bad guys, and a whole bunch somewhere in between.

If you choose to frame this “debate” in the context of your forebears that is your choice.

But I contend there is no redemption there…

RW-(the original)

August 31st, 2009
10:09 pm

One thing I know for sure. I’m a better person than jay

@@,

You’re not the only one that knows that unless you mean Jay$ in which case I love you both.

josef,

Honest is great, but you’re appreciated across the spectrum of posters here because you’re also real and open to seeing other points of view. Even the close minded somehow must sense that even if it’s beyond me to figure out how.

David Milton

August 31st, 2009
10:09 pm

@Rick in Atlanta – CAU diploma was worthless long before this. And gone by next semester? Oh hells no. The community will exalt them like that fraudulent overly verbose showboat Michael Eric Dyson. Why move forward when you can move backward for free!

josef nix

August 31st, 2009
10:15 pm

AmVet–he says to tell you, “yes, but you are one of “them,” who, if anyone among us, knows what it means to merely survive to bear witness. Itself redemption. In the long run, it is how you treat me as a human individual when the color of your skin and the color of mine are secondary and not primary.”

josef nix

August 31st, 2009
10:20 pm

RW–thanks for the vote of confidence. I was having a hard time of it today, having my issues at the fore. I wasn’t feeling particularly “open minded.” My work in the real world took it’s toll today and I truly do appreciate having had the place “to vent.”

AmVet

August 31st, 2009
10:25 pm

josef,

The color of our skins. The ethnicity of our fathers. The gender or race of the person we lay down next to at night. The thickness of our wallets. The god we seek salvation through.

One day maybe, these things will not divide us as much as they do now.

But for now we struggle ahead as perfectly imperfect human beings trying to make sense of it all.

But occasionally when I look up at the stars at night in wonder, just as the ancients did, that is good enough for me…

@@

August 31st, 2009
10:30 pm

RW:

Heck no! I’m not talking about JayNot.

Thanks for “sharing” the love. Two guys and a girl?

Somehow I always thought you’d prefer two girls and a guy….YOU.

J/K. I’m off to bed. I’m back at work.

Guess what. The cynicism didn’t follow me there. It was, instead, vanquished there.

Yiddle ones have a tendency to do that for me.

Reform Will Happen

August 31st, 2009
10:34 pm

josef nix

August 31st, 2009
8:06 pm

Reform Will Happen–
Just because I’m no fan of Fierce Advocate and didn’t vote for him, you assume I’m a McCain-Palin supporter? No, I voted for the party that came out in support of my and the Unmentionable’s equal civil rights. And, no, it was the anti-semite McKinney either.
Reform…
As far as RW is concerned, we disagree frequently and strongly on any number of points, but he has always treated me with the utmost respect and gentlemanly regard for my opinions and knows how to share a self-effacing joke or two…

@ Josef–

Before you reappeared, and after, I’ve mentioned the concept of Bushama or Obusha.

Militarily, Obama has been JABA Bush. JABA=Just as Bad As Bush–Same cast of players doing the same thing moved around the chess board with slight tweaks. Conservative columnist George Will urged getting out of Afghanistan today and I linked it on the same thread the above from you was on.
Obama hasn’t kept campaign promises about drawing down troops in Iraq at all. They’re still there getting blown to bits by IEDs. Now they’re in two countries and increasing in Afghanistan getting blown to bits there by IEDs.

Legally and civil rights wise, Obama has been even worse than Bush meaning that every last federal brief and motion has been to argue for holding people indefinitely with no charges or trial, state secrets, to defend illegal wire tapping, and to defend Bush’s criminals’ executive privilege, although he has lost about half of them already. He hasn’t kept any campaign promises there.

As to gay rights, Obama has been a total disappointment to your gay community as to “don’t ask” or gay marriage or even rights for civil unions. He hasn’t kept any campaign promises there.

As to RW, I referenced him because he seemed to mistake some post I made as directed to you on that thread, but I remember that I couldn’t figure out which one he was talking about.

I don’t get “respect and gentlemanly” from RW, and I could care less. I’ve been living around rednecks of all stripes for a while and blind repubos who want to ignore the facts. RW voted for Palin–that says it all. I have not mined the self-effacement or self-effacing jokes or two from RW. Maybe there is a hidden blog I don’t know about.

If Obama has done anything for you and Unmentionable’s civil rights Josef, I don’t believe it’s been since Jan. 20, 2009 on planet earth. There are many many blogs decrying that he’s done zippo for that, and I haven’t seen any legislation from Obama even remotely trying to promote those kinds of civil rights, but he hasn’t finished year one of eight yet.

RB from Gwinnett

August 31st, 2009
10:41 pm

I don’t even believe these clowns wrote the memo. I suspect the actual writer is being protected by these two because they can likely hide behind tenure and escape with nothing but an elevated sense of their own elitist egos. Whoever did write this thing did get at least 1 thing right, however, Franklin’s stint as mayor has been a failure. Totally and completely.

Reform Will Happen

August 31st, 2009
10:58 pm

‘From the Nation’s Jeremy Scahill who exposed much of Blackwater’s criminality:

“Chris Wallace interviewing Cheney is like a teenage girl interviewing one of the Jonas Brothers..”

josef nix

August 31st, 2009
11:08 pm

AmVet–

“But occasionally when I look up at the stars at night in wonder, just as the ancients did, that is good enough for me…”

After all this time, you never cease to reassure me with comments such as this…the word is wonder. All of the rest of it aside, the sheer minuteness of self, and yet the reassuredness that we are significant to the celestial order of things, the absolute wonder of it all…

Reform Will Happen

Thank you for the lengthy response. You will forgive me if I am a bit scattered in my response, the cabernet has had its affect :-)

Fierce Advocate, in my opinion, is a first rate hypocrite and a liar to boot, but then, I never put on the rose-colored glasses for him or any other politician, who, to a one would sell their own mama down the river if they found it expedient to do so. Fierce Advocate and his cr*p was clear to me with Prop 8 and his “faith” reasons for taking the “grab those black and latino votes which outnumber the gay” stance. Good politics. Bankrupt morality. To h*ll with him, and yes that was in my mind when I pulled the lever.

As for as RW is concerned, I can only judge him by the way he has treated me and he has treated me with respect and dignity. I return the courtesy. It was the way I was brought up. And as concerns Ms Palin, while I may not agree with her on any number of issues, on my “narrow interest agenda” she and Biden came to agreement on only one issue in their debate and that was that neither one was willing to support my and Unmentionable’s equality before the law, something that even Dick Cheney has come out publicly in support of. I believe in giving credit where credit is due. Palin has lived up to her principals. She says she is opposed to abortion as a means of birth control and genetic engineering and chose to give birth to and raise her Down’ Syndrome child. She says she belives in taking care of one’s own and unconditional love and support of one’s offspring and puts that into action with her support of her unwed mother daughter. She lends her name to bettering the services to and education of special needs children. That deserves respect even from those of us who would freely and cheerfully call her “Caribou Barbie.” Your constant snipes at her command of the English language are petulant in that your own command, as mine, is equally imperfect.

You, like I, have issues. But manners and decorum do still mean something.

Reform Will Happen

August 31st, 2009
11:14 pm

Repubo hot air bag Peter King has backed out of running against appointed U.S. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand in New York. That could leave former DA Jeannine Pirro of Judge Jeannine fame who disingenuously claimed she knew nothing about family finances when her husand went to prison for tax evasion even though she has spent over 15 years following the money of white collar criminals as DA, and every time her retina got a light signal, she could see she was surrounded by all kinds of material girl luxury that both their salaries could not have touched.

Republican Congressman Pete Olson Texas shut down his town hall meeting after 47 seconds after claiming a woman named Britney’s baby wouldn’t have been born with a public option. “Britney” was turned down for a procedure by your good friends the insurance companies. That would be the private insurance companies when she sought treatment for her unborn baby’s congenital heart defect via surgery in utero.

The “health care is being shoved down our throat” cry babies here must be deaf and blind to Enzie’s and Grassley’s letters replete with lies released over the weekend. There hasn’t been a scintilla of bipartisanship from the Repubos and never will be. Reconciliation is long overdue.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/enzi-blasts-dems-over-healthcare-goals-2009-08-29.html

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2009/08/chuck_grassley_fundraises_agai.html

Reform Will Happen

August 31st, 2009
11:41 pm

@ Josef–

Allow me to correct your perception. Dick Cheney has never ever been a supporter of gay marriage. He has been a supporter of only HIS DAUGHTER’S gay marriage because he doesn’t have much of a choice there. He is in support of HIS DAUGHTER’S equality before the law–he doesn’t give a damn about yours and Unmentionable’s equality before the law.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-ostroy/dick-cheney-does-not-supp_b_210721.html

Cheney would not be in support of anything remotely sought by the gay community if he didn’t have a gay daughter. And he dangerously advocated to bomb Iran–that’s now clear and even the crazies in the Bush admin. wouldn’t go along with him. In fact Cheney was overtly anti-Gay until his daughter told him she was.

I don’t believe Palin’s giving birth to a Trisomy child qualifies her to be in public office. She isn’t now and will never be. She is an untreated borderline personality which accounts for her word salads.

Palin brightly mocked fruit fly funding during her very short Wardrobe Tour campaign of hatred, and there is a slight problem with that. In 2009, the fruit fly remains a mainstay of medical/genetic research on trisomy babies.

Palin hypocritically put her children front and center in her campaign, and then acted shocked when they drew media attention. Her behavior has been reprehensible, but like Rush, Palikn has been relegated to her cult following. They will pay to buy her co-written books and hear her Tina Fey mocking Palinesque speeches, but she has been exposed for the whackjob and ignorant racist she is, and a candidacy will never see the light of day. The Repubos will have to find more ignorant racists like Demint and they have an abundance of them.

Bring ‘em on, they’re all clowns.

josef nix

August 31st, 2009
11:41 pm

It’s late and time to call it a day…thanks again for the escape from reality :-)

josef nix

August 31st, 2009
11:53 pm

Reform–quickly before I go…I knew the Cheney comment was coming. I’m a liberal, remember? I got the memo, too. It doesn’t matter to me where it came from, it’s welcome. And Palin, the racist? Well, we both do have in common a life’s partner from the red-skinned savage element…

DebbieDoRight

August 31st, 2009
11:53 pm

I usually stay out of any racial strife mess; however, I had to answer to this poster:

I know this is old hat, but the Black Miss USA pageant. The Black Chamber of Commerce. The Black Boaters Association. Black Entertainment Television. Replace any of those titles with the word “White and you are immediately branded a racist.

Darling, you don’t NEED to add WHITE Miss USA Pageant, or WHITE Chamber o Commerce or WHITE Boaters Assoc. or even WHITE Entertainment Television — It’s already a known fact. Sort of like when the Georgia flag was a big controversy because the last Governor wanted to take it down and put up something that represented all georgians and who were the people who were protesting a racist flags removal? You got it………WHITE. Now see, you didn’t even have to rack your brains to guess that one huh?

Doggone: Whatever else does or doesn’t come of this, they won’t make the mistake the next time of thinking any memos they write will be kept “secret”

Yep — they just got schooled in Politics 101

DebbieDoRight

September 1st, 2009
12:04 am

Obama has done anything for you and Unmentionable’s civil rights Josef, I don’t believe it’s been since Jan. 20, 2009 on planet earth. There are many many blogs decrying that he’s done zippo for that, and I haven’t seen any legislation from Obama even remotely trying to promote those kinds of civil rights, but he hasn’t finished year one of eight yet.

Try this one on for size and see how ya like it………

On Monday, Obama lawyers said DOMA was constitutional and defensible, but cushioned their arguments with a statement that calls the 1996 law unfair.

“With respects to the merits, this Administration does not support DOMA as a matter of policy, believes that it is discriminatory, and supports its repeal,” the brief states.

………………………The administration’s defense comes in a brief against a gay couple – Arthur Smelt and Christopher Hammer – married in California before the enactment of Proposition 8 who have sued the federal government for recognition of their marriage.

The Department of Justice is arguing that the Orange County couple have not been harmed by DOMA because they have not applied for federal benefits.
………………….While social conservatives railed against the administration’s softened tone against DOMA, gay activists welcomed the new language.

“I guess this is a step in the right direction,” John Aravosis, one of the most vocal opponents to the administration’s June filing, said in a blog post at AmericaBlog.com.

Carisa Cunningham, director of public affairs for Gay & Lesbian Advocates & Defenders, told the Los Angeles Times that the brief’s support of DOMA as constitutional is “simply wrong,” then added: “But this administration, contrary to its predecessors, has acknowledged the reality that children are part of families with gay and lesbian parents and those children can grow up as well adjusted as anyone else. That’s a very important acknowledgment, and it is also important legally.”

Similar sentiments were shared by National Center for Lesbian Rights Executive Director Kate Kendell…………..

http://www.ontopmag.com/article.aspx?id=4397&MediaType=1&Category=26

DebbieDoRight

September 1st, 2009
12:13 am

Here’s a late night song for all of you oh so kind, self-righteous, I’m not racist THOSE people are”, folks out there. Enjoy!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTBx-hHf4BE&feature=related

Don’t forget to support our troops!! The white ones, the black ones, the latino ones, the indian ones, the muslim ones, the italian ones……………

Reform Will Happen

September 1st, 2009
12:21 am

If it’s any consolation at all Josef, there are an awful lot of people who aren’t gay that want a full panoply of gay rights and full gay legal equality and believe sexuality, marriage etc. should be the choice of individuals and tolerated by people with different choices.

TnGelding

September 1st, 2009
4:46 am

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

September 1st, 2009
5:21 am

U.S. forces are being increased by 21,000 to 68,000, bringing the coalition total to 110,000. About 9,000 are from Britain, where support for the war is waning. Counterinsurgency theory concerning the time and the ratio of forces required to protect the population indicates that, nationwide, Afghanistan would need hundreds of thousands of coalition troops, perhaps for a decade or more. That is inconceivable.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~So, instead, forces should be substantially reduced to serve a comprehensively revised policy: America should do only what can be done from offshore, using intelligence, drones, cruise missiles, airstrikes and small, potent special forces units, concentrating on the porous 1,500-mile border with Pakistan, a nation that actually matters.~~~~~~~~~~~~~-George Will

Which was what Bush was doing for the last seven years, with the libs whining and moaning the whole time.

Where’s bin Laden at?

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator :-) You Whine :-(

September 1st, 2009
6:48 am

“I doubt if even the poor spend this much time talking about the poor at their own funerals,” said one person I was watching with.

At least they weren’t talking abut themselves, as usual.

ew

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator :-) You Whine :-(

September 1st, 2009
6:57 am

It takes nothing away from Mitt Romney or Mike Huckabee or Tim Pawlenty and others who may be presidential candidates the next time around, all of whom have had criticism of ObamaCare, to say that it was Sarah Palin almost single-handedly who has dealt a once hugely popular president a stunning defeat on a major aspect of his key legislative program. A feat accomplished she accomplished with a simple Kennedy-esque “Robert Bork’s America” style posting on her Facebook page.

She Borked it.

jt

September 1st, 2009
7:12 am

AmVet mentioned 400 years of slavery.

While people certainly won’t read it in a textbook, there has been found a confirmed Spanish settlement on the South Carolina Pee Dee river that dates to 1526. These Spanish brought about 1 hundred black slaves. The slaves later revolted and killed all of their masters. They then disappeared with the indians.

My point is, it is closer to 500 years.

Also, Massachussetts was the first colony to legalize slavery.

Also the first book ever written in America was in Georgia. Also the first book written by an African American was also written in Georgia. SAT’s mean nothing.

Joey

September 1st, 2009
7:18 am

Jay disappointed. I mean, Jay is really disappointed.

Way to take a stand Jay. That will certainly give them cause to question themselves, their integrity and their motives.

TnGelding

September 1st, 2009
7:21 am

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

September 1st, 2009
5:21 am

So George Will is now an expert? Off shore? Duh, didn’t Bush put troops in there? What about the Afghan army?

My mother would say UBL is behind the at. His days are numbered. Have we been atttacked? Does that mean Obo is keeping us safe?
“Responding to criticism from former Vice President Cheney that President Obama is making the nation more vulnerable to terrorism, the president’s National Security Adviser, Gen. Jim Jones (Ret.), told ABC News in an exclusive interview that actually the reverse is true: President Obama’s greater success with international relations has meant more terrorists put out of commission.”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/08/abc-news-exclusive-national-security-adviser-says-president-obama-is-having-greater-success-taking-t.html

TnGelding

September 1st, 2009
7:23 am

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator :-) You Whine :-(

September 1st, 2009
6:57 am

We’ll see. Don’t get too giddy. You might have to eat some crow. I’m amazed that someone as astute as you are could support her.

TnGelding

September 1st, 2009
7:28 am

We are the World, from the beginning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne7fPpxAnuM&feature=related

Sorry about that.

Finn McCool

September 1st, 2009
7:33 am

We’re they wearing hoods when they wrote this and claimed responsibility? Replace “black” with “white” and read it again.

Well, at least they didn’t hide their faces when they came forward. Unlike some cowards we’ve seen over the past century.

TnGelding

September 1st, 2009
7:35 am

Last one out…

“As a recipient of TARP financing during the recent banking crisis, I urge you to help use the financing you were provided to protect and preserve American companies and jobs,” Hare wrote.

http://www.qctimes.com/news/local/article_7369472a-9645-11de-b920-001cc4c002e0.html

…turn off the lights

Normal

September 1st, 2009
7:37 am

jt. Well said, and I agree, the SAT does not mean a thing. Let the teachers teach…just sayin’
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And to all y’all, GOOD MORNING, G E O R G I A !!! Keep smiling…it makes people wonder what you are up to… ;-)

Finn McCool

September 1st, 2009
7:38 am

Were, not We’re

sorry

TnGelding

September 1st, 2009
7:41 am

Cash for Clunkers not only program riddled with errors:

“I’m a little guy in Brooklyn who doesn’t belong to their country clubs, what can I tell you?” he says, adding a shrug for punctuation. “I won’t accept their comedy of errors.”

“If you are going to take away someone’s house, everything should be legal and correct,” he said. “I’m a strange guy — I don’t want to put a family on the street unless it’s legitimate.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/31/nyregion/31judge.html?_r=1

TnGelding

September 1st, 2009
7:43 am

Finn McCool

September 1st, 2009
7:38 am

Hey, most of us aren’t that nitpicking. Keep up the fight!

Voldemort

September 1st, 2009
7:53 am

If our dear Hosea Williams were still with the living, he’d likely take a couple of those free turkeys they give away is name and them at Boone & Jennings for the drivel they’ve lobbed at our city.

These boobs just prove that an air of entitlement has been foisted into the mix of the real and important racial issues to discuss and address in Atlanta and the U.S.

“400 years of wholesale brutality, enslavement, murders and subjugation” didn’t seem to turn the Israelites into a horde of whining intelligentsia, helpless broodmares, and thugs. So what’s the excuse?

Turd Ferguson

September 1st, 2009
8:01 am

Must admit its kinda funny. The ATL blacks keep voting in the same losers, (Jackons – Campbell – ShirleyGirl) and are basically no better off then they were years ago. LOL.

Douglas

September 1st, 2009
8:07 am

SO I guess they will have no problem with a “white agenda”.
Are would that be racist? Lets see, two lack racist professors, from an all black racist “college”, spouting a racist agenda for blacks to remain in control by voting based on race. Why would ANY white person EVER vote for a black for office. Never again my friend, Never again.

Rose McConnell

September 1st, 2009
10:20 am

What is the “black agenda?” Is this a code phrase that has meaning among black people? Do the authors think there is also a “white agenda” that they must work to defeat by enacting a black agenda?

stands for decibels

September 1st, 2009
10:30 am

“400 years of wholesale brutality, enslavement, murders and subjugation” didn’t seem to turn the Israelites into a horde of whining intelligentsia, helpless broodmares, and thugs. So what’s the excuse?

Shorter Voldemort: Why can’t them N—–rs act more like the Hebes?

Nice.

Batboy

September 1st, 2009
4:55 pm

So a raicst memo about the Mayor’s race in Atlanta is published. Two clear points:
1. Vote against this woman solely because she is white.
2. Black people should all have the same agenda because they are black.

Bookman can’t bring himself to say this is racist and wrong. He can’t upset the apple cart of politics in GA because if he does he might jeopardize the utter reliability of the black vote for all causes democratic. He would, and has, sold his soul to protect his political coalition.

Yet…at least in public…our candidates for Mayor have been willing to say the truth and distance themselves from this kind of ugliness saying that its race baiting and bigoted. Bookman’s moral courage failed.
He could snip a little but without fire or conviction. At all costs, Jay is avoiding speaking the truth plainly. It is this event which will define Bookman.

Jay

September 1st, 2009
5:27 pm

Ummm, Batboy?

Maybe you missed this from Friday’s blog:

“The memo, which came to light Thursday, makes at least two egregious, offensive and dangerous assumptions:

First, it treats the mayor’s office as a black possession, a trophy of sorts that could be surrendered to white Atlantans for the first time in 35 years. That is a cartoonish, archaic approach to politics that, among other things, ignores the humanity of individual mayoral candidates, with all their strengths and weaknesses, and tries to reduce them to mere representatives of their respective races.

That mindset has had its day, and that day is, or ought to be, over. But as the memo reminds us, it isn’t quite. There are those in the black and white communities who still see opportunity, profit and power in extending that day beyond its normal lifespan, and the Turpeau memo lays out one way it might be done.”

Ugg Boots Cheap Shop

December 22nd, 2009
11:00 am

I already did some shopping so I’m planning to stay in for the rest of my long weekend! (But I’m really itching to go to the MAC store and buy something!)