The aftermath of the Kennedy funeral

Don’t know about you, but I did end up watching some of the Kennedy funeral coverage yesterday. A little maudlin at times, but that’s how funerals are. All in all, it was well-done.

It’ll be interesting to see, when the ratings numbers come out, how Fox did compared with CNN and the networks. Not sure the Fox followers were all that enthralled by the day’s events. As someone on CNN noted, the three brothers are reunited now at Arlington.

And then there’s the political impact, if any. I doubt any GOP votes were swung on health care, but it’s conceivable the day’s emotions galvanized Dems to do it on their own.

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I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

August 30th, 2009
6:45 am

but it’s conceivable the day’s emotions galvanized Dems to do it on their own.

Hiding behind their human shield Olympia Snowe, of course.

Rahm Emanuel, the White House chief of staff, who has consulted with Ms. Snowe, said: “She is really in it for the policy. When you think of an ideal senator, regardless of party or philosophy, Olympia Snowe really fits that mold.”

I hope you eventually wind up with Susan Collins, McBushie, Grassley, all the other squish RINOs and shove it slam down America’s throat, sneering at us the whole time.

Be sure to parade them around before the cameras so that the American people know who betrayed them to socialism, and can vote accordingly, the first chance they get.

Eddy

August 30th, 2009
6:49 am

I watched some of it. The plot for the brothers offers a spectacular view. I looked at the thousands of white stone markers perfectly arrayed against the green grass. I believe that Arlington and other cemeteries that provide a final resting place are special, even sacred. It will be sad to see the funeral politicized but it will be ad nauseam. He was a man of privilege, full of flaws who seemed to try, at least to me even though I disagreed with most of his philosophy, to atone for his flaws but fell well short. There will be lots of judgments but none of ours will count. Only one does.

Mrs. Godzilla

August 30th, 2009
7:12 am

Our family has thrown an Irish wake or two over the years. My Mom’s was a classic. Teddy’s family did him proud.

The Nation carried The Lion of the Senate into the mission church then halfway down the aisle, stopped and slowly removed the Flag giving Uncle Teddy back to his family. The Matrons covered him in linen and then the Family gave him to God. Such a beautiful moment. I cried.

Redemption? I suspect he’s doing it right.

Aftermath? He understood when to compromise and when not to. We will get our Teddy Bill.

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

August 30th, 2009
7:20 am

Look for the libs to call “Georgia” stupid-

Top 25 Georgia high schools by average SAT score

1. Richmond County, John S Davidson Fine Arts Magnet School, 1744

2. Fulton County, Northview High School, 1722

3. Cobb County, Walton High School, 1722

6. Fulton County, Riverwood High School, 1688

7. Fulton County, Alpharetta High School, 1686

8. Fulton County, Chattahoochee High School, 1678

9. Fulton County, Roswell High School, 1671

10. DeKalb County, Chamblee High School, 1662

11. Cobb County, Lassiter High School, 1658

12. Fulton County, Milton High School, 1657

13. Cobb County, Alan C. Pope High School, 1656

15. Cobb County, Wheeler High School, 1640

National average- 1509

None of the City of Atlanta high schools, out of 14, cracked the national average.

http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-sat-123218.html?appSession=669190745002263

Kayaker 71

August 30th, 2009
7:41 am

Ms G,

You might get your “Teddy bill”, alright, but it will come a a price. Look for a LOT of elected Congressmen and Senators to loose their job over it. America is not liking this fiasco and until we get some sort of consensus about the details, it would be catastrophic for the Dems to step out on that limb any further. Listen to the people, Ms. G, and listen hard. We are not “brown shirt Nazis” as Howard Dean would have you believe…. far from it. Just concerned citizens who have had enough and are exercising their right of free speech. There is a big difference.

DCB

August 30th, 2009
7:46 am

Regarding the “top Georgia High School SAT scores and the “libs” calling Georgia “stupid” – we need to amend it to be labeled “top public Georgia High School SAT scores”. Its only a “suspicion”, but it would be interesting to see how the Westminsters and Paces and Wesleyans and Stratfords and Savannah Country Day Schools of the state rate if their SAT scores were compared to the public high schools.

jconservative

August 30th, 2009
7:55 am

I Report/ Vast White

“I hope you eventually wind up with Susan Collins, McBushie, Grassley, all the other squish RINOs…”

Careful of your wish sir. The neocon Republicans ran a neocon against the “moderate” Rhode Island Republican senator Chafee. The incumbent Republican eventually lost the election to a very liberal Democrat Whitehouse. That allowed the Democrats to take control of the Senate in January 2007 by a 51 – 49 margin. Had Lincoln Chafee been re-elected the Republicans would have controlled the Senate by a 50 – 50 vote with VP Cheney casting the tie breaker.

But if purity is better than actual practical political results , then good luck to you.

Mrs. Godzilla

August 30th, 2009
7:58 am

Kayaker

Listen to the people! Listen to the People!

Cool. Works for me.

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

August 30th, 2009
7:58 am

jcon- If a squish RINO votes exactly the same as a pinko liberal, does it make a sound?

jconservative

August 30th, 2009
8:02 am

Continuing my thought from the previous post….

After the 2008 elections the Democratic majority in the Senate Judiciary committee sat on the last 34 Federal District judges nominated by Bush 43. After Obama was sworn in he submitted a new 34
nominations, all liberal Democrats. All with lifetime appointments.
The neocon adventure in Rhode Island cost the conservative movement 34 federal judges.

Taxpayer

August 30th, 2009
8:03 am

You conservatives out there that don’t care for our current healthcare system don’t have to stall too much longer before the Republican plan starts up. Be patient. After all, the Republicans passed the bill in 2003 but only scheduled it to start in 2010. Read all about it here. Voucher, anyone. Give me a show of hands. Show your support for all things GOP. How ’bout those contracts on Americans, courtesy of your Republican party. Funny! I don’t hear them bragging about it. The cowards.

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

August 30th, 2009
8:05 am

The Chargers first string trampled the Falcons first string in an exhibition game but the Falcons third string came back a won the game against the Chargers third string, so the Urinal prances around on the sport’s section front page like they won the Super Bowl.

Maybe every team will play their third string defense in the regular season, you reckon?

And then you can really get obnoxious.

Question

August 30th, 2009
8:15 am

RE: Teddy Bill.

“Socialists and Communists may argue that Obama isn’t radical enough, that he’s much too conservative to be deemed a socialist. Yet their enthusiastic support and words belie that contention. Not just “some conservatives” have implied Obama is a socialist. People on the far left have given some might big hints.”

Michael M. Bates, NYT, March 8, 2009

Michael H. Smith

August 30th, 2009
8:16 am

Kayaker 71

August 30th, 2009
7:41 am

Enjoy that right of free speech while we still have it. If Obumer’s FCC chief diversity officer has his way or Obumer’s way that free speech as we have known it may soon end. Keep in mind the Cyber-security bill now in the Senate. I have said it before, Obumer’s power grab makes Dick Cheney envious.

RW-(the original)

August 30th, 2009
8:18 am

If you flip to CNN right now they’re still on 24/7 Swimmer coverage so I’m pretty sure they’ll be able to claim a larger rating number once they add the whole thing up.

TnGelding

August 30th, 2009
8:21 am

I was impressed by the priest of what little I saw. Hope to catch the rerun for his complete remarks. Funerals are for the living. I’m very surprised he was buried at Arlington without more of an uproar. Maybe there was and I missed it; haven’t been watching the news much the last couple of days.

I don’t think the House and Senate Democrats can reconcile their differences. Losing Kennedy will hurt just like losing Rosty as Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee hurt Hillary’s plan. Adding tort reform and taking out the public option would bring a few Republicans on board.

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

August 30th, 2009
8:24 am

Taxslayer- Speaking of cowards, today’s Urinal states that the federal deficit would be substantially less had it not been for the spending of the Bush administration. Of course they also neglected to mention that Bush vetoed the majority of spending legislation that the democrat controlled Congress would have enacted had he not been there to obstruct them, sort of like the wild and uncontrolled spending that we are seeing this very day.

I would post this abomination if I could find it on the web, seems as though the liberals at the Urinal only want the brain dead in Atlanta to gain possession of this enlightening knowledge.

Like lying little children, you libs are.

TnGelding

August 30th, 2009
8:24 am

Kayaker 71

August 30th, 2009
7:41 am

Not to mention selfish and short-sighted. We are only as healthy as the sickest among us.

R Cagle

August 30th, 2009
8:25 am

Democrats just love making a public display of sending their honored dead off to Liberal Valhalla. There is nothing like fascism with a human face.

RW-(the original)

August 30th, 2009
8:26 am

Gelding,

Why wouldn’t he be buried at Arlington? He did enlist in the Army, get thrown out of intelligence training, get sent to fight the Korean War in Paris and get discharged in less than two years after achieving the rank of PFC.

Normal

August 30th, 2009
8:28 am

Good morning, all Happy sunday to you!

WHINER: Your first post, Got a hangover?

Whiner: I never call Our kids stupid, but I must remind you that Georgia is a red state…just sayin’

And Whiner, Don’t like the Falcons, the home team? Why? Are they Liberals? Oh wait, you just don’t like anything, do you? :roll:

Jack

August 30th, 2009
8:28 am

I always wonder how many of these folks with the pithy quips really did vote in the last election.

@@

August 30th, 2009
8:30 am

Dems would come together and DO IT for Teddy?

Talk about superficial…

They’ll be digging themselves a shallow grave, they will.

I’ve never watched any “celeb’s” televised funeral. I don’t expect they’ll be botherin’ themselves with mine.

TnGelding

August 30th, 2009
8:31 am

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

August 30th, 2009
8:24 am

Bush was responsible for most of the deficit and you know it. HE AND Reagan can claim 90% of the national debt AT THIS POINT.

http://www.senate.gov/reference/Legislation/Vetoes/BushGW.htm

Normal

August 30th, 2009
8:32 am

We are not “brown shirt Nazis” as Howard Dean would have you believe…. far from it.

No just loud and ill mannered people, exerting their rights to free speech, while denying those that don’t agree with them, theirs. And all by intimidation and shouts. Legally, is that Simple Battery?

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

August 30th, 2009
8:38 am

And Whiner, Don’t like the Falcons, the home team? Why? Are they Liberals? Oh wait, you just don’t like anything, do you? :roll:

I actually thought about rooting for the NFC against the Denver Broncos in 1999 but after seeing the drunken and insufferable mob known as the “dirty birds,” I happily cheered on Elway to winning his second trophy.

Being at the Dome is like watching mass idiocy set to interminably loud and raucous music.

It would be impossible for me to associate myself with such behavior.

Chop, chop, duuuhhhh, uuuuhhhh, uuUUUHhhhhh.

R Cagle

August 30th, 2009
8:39 am

TnGelding,

The odds of the Democrats agreeing to tort reform are as about as good as their agreeing to a non-union national health service.

AmVet

August 30th, 2009
8:40 am

Another Christian sabbath.

Another Sunday morning hate-fest from the blogs’s ever-present (ooooh!) self-professed Christian.

Niiice.

At least he’s consistently bitter.

“Not sure the Fox followers were all that enthralled by the day’s events.”

Vis a vis, what I just wrote, I think PLENTY of them were delighted, as they fervently wish for the “swimmer” an eternity in their “special place” full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish so he can suffer and burn choke and scream and cry forever and forever until the end of time. BUT, He loves you!! (hat tip George Carlin)

Wonderful people with a beautiful credo, aren’t they?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o&feature=PlayList&p=32632A2A1A3B4F15&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=1

Kayaker 71

August 30th, 2009
8:41 am

Normal,

When conservatives speak out against something they disagree with, they are Nazis, trouble makers, disloyal citizens and “loud, ill mannered people”.
When liberals get mad about something, they start blowing things up.

Michael H. Smith

August 30th, 2009
8:41 am

All the debt created after Obumer became President is his responsibility. He made the call and the choices that have been made by him once he became the President belong to him and him alone.

Bush made me do it, just doesn’t cut it.

TnGelding

August 30th, 2009
8:46 am

RW-(the original)

August 30th, 2009
8:26 am

I WASN’T AWARE HE HAD DONE THAT. MY BAD. But that doesn’t qualify him, if not for his elective office. Like I mentioned above I haven’t been watching much news lately.

http://www.arlingtoncemetery.org/funeral_information/guide.interment.html

Normal

August 30th, 2009
8:48 am

Kayaker, yeah, like that bleeding heart liberal, Timothy McVeigh, Right got cha. Oh, and let us not forget that other great Liberal, Eric Rudolph. Yeah, I see where you are coming from…good job. :roll:

RW-(the original)

August 30th, 2009
8:53 am

Gelding,

I’m sorry I didn’t make my sarcasm a little more obvious.

Normal

August 30th, 2009
8:53 am

:-) This is a test for my wife

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

August 30th, 2009
8:56 am

TN Gelding- So how did Senator Obozo vote on this massive “Bush” spending, other than the war funding which he is all in favor of now?

Bob

August 30th, 2009
8:56 am

Taxpayer, the contract with America was very specific and the repube met the timeline for bringing votes to the house. Which one of the ten items bothered you the most ? I know what bothered democrats in congress the most was the part that made congress follow the laws they imposed on the people. While the lion and many others forced quotas on employers, the libs had as many minorities working in their offices as Robert Byrd’s old headquarters during his grand old days. More do as I say and not as I do liberals.

AmVet

August 30th, 2009
9:00 am

“When liberals get mad about something, they start blowing things up.”

And when the neo-conned gt mad about something, which is to say evry day of their bitter lives, they do one of the following, all THIS year alone:

Hannity and O”Reilly fan Jim Adkisson strolled into a Tennessee church and murdered innocent people for being “liberals”.

Far right wing white supremacist James Von Brunn strolled into the Holocaust museum and murdered a security guard, before doing gawd knows what to the Christ-killers.

Scott Roeder, another right-wing extremist, strolled up to a doctor at church in Wichita, Ks. and shot and murdered him in cold blood.

Richard Poplawski, a right-wing extremist, gunned down three police officers in Pittsburgh, because he feared a non-existent “Obama gun ban.”

And even though it’s old news now, lets not forget another couple of your “conservative” darlings who according to you “…get mad about something, they start blowing things up” – Timothy McVeigh who ended 168 innocent lives and Eric Rudolph who was just a stupid version thereof.

Those among the 179 cases of documented bombings and arson (or attempted) by “conservatives” from 1989 to 2004.

And you were saying what?

Taxpayer

August 30th, 2009
9:01 am

Thanks for that post, whiner, but I prefer fact over your fantasies. The legislation that the GOP actually passed in 2003 includes a test program for vouchers in place of Medicare and that’s only because they could not get enough support in both houses to make it across the board. Yet, your party leader, Steele, and others in the Republican camp are out now claiming that you’re maintaining Medicare as is. I know how the GOP plays their little game of semantics and I know that their statements regarding maintaining the status quo for current medicare recipients is technically correct but it is not the whole truth and a partial truth is nothing less of a lie. Then, there’s that udderly stupid death camp tripe that your Sister Sarah just cannot get enough of. You should really put her in touch with Isakson so they can kiss and make up.

stands for decibels

August 30th, 2009
9:02 am

Look for a LOT of elected Congressmen and Senators to loose [sic] their job over it.

C’est la stuff. If a party isn’t willing to risk some mid-term losses to get crucial legislation passed, they have no business being a political party.

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

August 30th, 2009
9:05 am

After the election, then-chairman of the Republican National Committee Mike Duncan noted that the Democratic nominee supported offshore oil drilling, merit pay for teachers, a tax cut for 95 percent of Americans, more troops in Afghanistan and ~~~~~~an end to wasteful federal earmarks.~~~~~~~ “Put simply,” he said, “Barack Obama just ran the most successful moderate Republican presidential campaign since Dwight Eisenhower.”

How do you think he got elected?

jt

August 30th, 2009
9:06 am

“The aftermath of the Kennedy funeral?”

There is a giant expenses bill floating around out there somewhere.

Addressed to the American tax-payer.

stands for decibels

August 30th, 2009
9:06 am

Then, there’s that udderly stupid death camp tripe that your Sister Sarah just cannot get enough of. You should really put her in touch with Isakson so they can kiss and make up.

Some of us just had breakfast, you know.

AmVet

August 30th, 2009
9:09 am

“Put simply,” he said, “Barack Obama just ran the most successful moderate Republican presidential campaign since Dwight Eisenhower.”

And yet the clueless BushCo sycophants screamed and wailed and lamented that he IS THE MOST LIBERAL SENATOR IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND!!!

Yeah, though his voting record was always PRO-corporate as evidenced by him being the first Democratic candidate for POTUS to EVER out-raise him GOP opponents in corporate contributions.

Good call, conned.

Just like with Bushie/Dickie being “conservatives”…

Taxpayer

August 30th, 2009
9:10 am

TnGelding

August 30th, 2009
9:11 am

Michael H. Smith

August 30th, 2009
8:41 am

It’ll take at least a DECADE TO GET THE BUDGET ANYWHERE NEAR BALANCED AGAIN AFTER THE CRISIS BUSH LEFT. Obama is responsible for the stimulus and the auto company help, but that should have happened no matter who was president. Bush should have requested another one earlier, but he punted.

Obama has the reins now and happy days are indeed here again. Now, if big business will step up to the plate and stop needlessly laying off dedicated, skilled, hard-working employees.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/22/BUB519C0C9.DTL&feed=rss.business

Apologies to Dusty. I had pledged not to mention him again. I’ll try to keep that pledge. Let him waste away in Big ‘D’ far from the cheering crowds. He’s history.

(Caps are unintentional.)

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

August 30th, 2009
9:13 am

Well, it was just like that bunch of libruls to be late with everything. After I got back from Billy Bob’s I looked at the TV and they were still preaching and praying and jawing there in the dark at Arlington. Even the TV cameras couldn’t pick anything up. They started out 45 minutes late for the funeral and by the time it was all over they were 2 hrs. late with everything. Somebody in the Kennedy family must of had a bad hair day or something. My missus just set there like she was in a trance, watching the thing. Me, I wouldn’t of watched the thing if they used Kennedy as a dart board.

One thing you got to give us Republicans, we’re right on time. We got My President’s tax cuts passed pronto. And it didn’t take us long to go after this Saddam. But the librul Democrats will still be trying to get this ObamaCare passed a year from now. They’re like a big family where all the members hate each other. They can’t do nothing right.

Anyhow, I ain’t suprized this Kennedy tried to get the Pope to save him. He needed to face death like a man. Of course, he wouldn’t think of bringing in Oral Roberts Jr. or somebody like that to help. That would be too low-church for that bunch.

So maybe today all the TV channels will accept the fact this Kennedy is gone and he ain’t coming back and we can watch the news again. But no, they’ll keep harping about how the politicans are trying to change back from the rule that there’s got to be a special election to fill the guy’s seat. Librul Democrats don’t live by the rules they set to keep a godly Republican from filling the seat.

Have a godly Sabbath everybody and don’t forget to go to church this a.m. before you go back to boozing it up.

Kayaker 71

August 30th, 2009
9:15 am

normal,

There are bad apples in every barrel. I haven’t heard many explosions coming from the Town Meetings or from the Tea Parties as of yet, except for those verbal in content. Just concerned people who feel strongly about an issue that is close to them and their families. Is it only fair to protest when you meet certain criteria? Is free speech relegated to those who only agree with a certain segment of the electorate and are to be called a host of degrading names because you don’t agree with them? I don’t recall any mention in the 2nd Amendment when free speech is not granted to any citizen of the US. It is a right, not a privilege, guaranteed.
Michael Smith’s earlier comment about Bozo’s “diversity chief” on the board of the FCC is a chilling comment. He has publicly stated that free speech is not at the top of his list of priorities and that protest should meet “certain criteria” to be allowed. Can’t wait for the Supreme Court to get that one. Meanwhile, Normal, you can rest assured that, at least for now, my right of free speech is sacred, guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States and allows me to protest most anything I want in a non-violent way. It even allows me to disagree with YOU. McVeigh and Rudolph are no better than Ayers and his wife, Angela Davis or that dude that shot the recruiter in Oakland. At least McVeigh is dead and Rudolph is serving three consecutive life terms. Ayers and his wife and Angela Davis are professors in universities teaching our children how to be better revolutionaries. Sort of makes you all warm and fuzzy doesn’t it?

TnGelding

August 30th, 2009
9:18 am

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

August 30th, 2009
8:56 am

The problem was on the revenue side as well. It took over two years for it to recover to the level of Y2K.

stands for decibels

August 30th, 2009
9:20 am

RW, I saw your reply re: 538, downstairs. I gather the gist of your objection to his site is that it’s boring. Fair enough. Although I guess it might be useful if insomnia’s a problem for you.

(I was working on the theory that you might’ve been harboring some older disagreements based on Nate’s Baseball Prospectus work going back some years. Darn. That would’ve been fun! I confess to not really knowing that much about Nate’s previous stat-ball geekery, other than some contact with people who knew him from back in that day.)

I’ll let this drop except to say that I tend to value Nate’s opinion because a) he shows his work, and b) is more than willing to report on polling trends that aren’t good news for those of my political persuasion.

And I don’t think, RW, that piece I’d linked made out that there was a “right” answer to the polling question; it was about public perceptions of what is being marketed as a “public plan.” You call it a Trojan Horse, but I, for the record, think that’s a silly thing to say, because the people who are pushing it make no bones about preferring a single-payer plan. The President made it clear last year that if he were starting from scratch, that’d be what he would prefer. Something like ten, twenty million or so people were watching.

back later, if time can be budgeted for Jay’s time-suck

Normal

August 30th, 2009
9:21 am

“Put simply,” he said, “Barack Obama just ran the most successful moderate Republican presidential campaign since Dwight Eisenhower.”

Yes, that is why he got elected. I won’t speak for anyone but me, but I craved a Republican Party that was like my fathers Party, Measured, reasoned, conservative (yes, I said conservative), and fiscally responsible. But what did/do we have religious fanatics, radio hosts who scream, hate, fear, hate, fear. And not to mention the last eight years of chaos. Give me the Republican candidate of the likes of Teddy Roosevelt, or Dwight D. Eisenhauer and I’ll gladly rejoin. But if not, I will spend my money and my time trying to defeat this current Republican gang of “No’s”.
The republican Party simply can’t sell “compassionate Conservative, or “Fiscally Responsible” anymore because they haven’t been for too long. Get the American Talibabtists away from you, quit listening to Radio hosts for your inspiration, and bring back Moderate ideas and people, they you might be believed…but only after you prove you can “Play well with other children” Yes, the other children are the Democrats. They pretty much suck, too. Jus’ sayin’