The tragic day the marketers ran short on celebrity

(I’m working on a piece about the infamous “black agenda” memo that came to light yesterday, but in the meantime….)

Once upon a time, fame was a rare commodity, like gold or diamonds or a 1964 1/2 dark-red Mustang convertible in factory condition. Many people sought fame, of course, but since it was scarce, few people could get their hands on it. Fame was generally acquired only by the lucky, the talented or the hard working, with the emphasis on the lucky. And often it came only to those blessed with all three.

And that was OK. The situation seemed more or less in balance.

Then, sometime in the past decade or so, the economics of fame changed. The explosion of media outlets on cable and the Internet meant that there was a lot more air time to fill, more cable channels to program, more niche markets to satisfy, more eyeballs to glaze over and more tabloids to sell.

Suddenly, Madison Avenue and Hollywood faced a desperate, almost crippling shortage of famous people. They needed thousands, tens of thousands of famous people, and they needed them fast. They scavenged the past, bringing back the has-beens and the almost-weres, but all the Danny Bonaduces in the world weren’t enough to satisfy market demand.

So, in the greatest burst of American industrial capacity since the days of World War II, they fired up the famous factories and started to churn out celebrities. Boy did they come fast.

OK, the quality slipped a bit. No, it slipped a lot. The workmanship was shoddy and the final product less than impressive. If you made a sex tape, you were famous material. If you were willing to starve yourself on a desert island in front of a national TV audience, you could be famous. If you were willing to stuff 60 hotdogs down your gut in 10 minutes, famous. For the first time in history, merely wanting to be famous was enough to make it so.

Luck, talent and hard work didn’t matter. What mattered most of all — the absolute key to acquiring fame as fast and cheaply as possible — was the willingness to humiliate yourself. That was the new raw material from which fame could be forged most easily, which is kind of strange, if you stop to think about it. Fame, the ultimate ego stroke, could now be purchased at the cost of your self-respect.

But then, perhaps it was really that way all along? I suspect maybe so.

Anyway, every era, like every prom, needs its king and queen. I would like to place into nomination, as King and Queen of 2009, the symbol of modern America, the epitome of her secret wants and needs, the following adorable famous couple:

Jon and Kate Gosselin, the Liz Taylor and Richard Burton of the modern media age.

181 comments Add your comment

Bud Wiser

August 28th, 2009
8:12 am

Oh no Jay, you said it best yourself, the absolute penultimate couple you so accurately described: “Luck, talent and hard work didn’t matter. What mattered most of all — the absolute key to acquiring fame as fast and cheaply as possible — was the willingness to humiliate yourself. That was the new raw material from which fame could be forged most easily,…”

Barak and Michelle fit that description to the T.

Mrs. Godzilla

August 28th, 2009
8:15 am

I stopped at 1964 1/2 mustang….my dream car. aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh

It would have to have a gas pedal shaped like a foot.

Now I’ll go back and keep reading.

Normal

August 28th, 2009
8:15 am

Bud, you are a hoot! Bless your heart…

TnGelding

August 28th, 2009
8:17 am

Jay, you should be ashamed to denigrate this talented, deserving couple and our enlightened culture.

GOP is gone

August 28th, 2009
8:18 am

I can truthfully say I have never subjected myself to this utter nonsense called J&K+8.
Why would anyone want to watch 2 adults scream at 8 kids and themselves for an hour of their precious time?

I have been waiting patiently for the demise of “real” stupid TV for too long now. I must be in the minority though since they keep coming up with even more stupid ideas for an even dumber collection of viewers. Just someone please bring back a funny smart comedy like Seinfeld, or a classic like Andy Griffith, or a decent drama.

TnGelding

August 28th, 2009
8:19 am

Bud Wiser

August 28th, 2009
8:12 am

If only we were all as accomplished and dignified as the Obamas. What an inspiration they must be to the kids in the ghettos.

ByteMe

August 28th, 2009
8:21 am

TiVo is your friend. You can ignore anything you don’t want to see. NCIS and House return shortly!

Mrs. Godzilla

August 28th, 2009
8:21 am

Thank heaven for The History Channel, The Learning Channel, HGTV, Food Channel…..they allow you do use your expensive teevee machine without
sliding into the filth that is Jon & Kate & Dance Your Ass Off & Who wants to date my mother & other unreal reality crap.

Normal

August 28th, 2009
8:21 am

Mrs G, a quict story for ya. Back in ‘64, when the Mustang came out, I was just starting me Senior year in High School. I was watching the Ed Sullivan Show with my Mom and Dad. My dad had just asked me what I wanted for graduation, and at that moment the Mustang commercial came on, so I laughed and said, “That”. I already had a cherry little ‘53 ford, so I didn’t think much of it. Came home the next day, and there she was, Tarnished Gold, black seats, hurst shifter, 289 HYPO, and Tiger paws…I have loved them ever sence.

Turd Ferguson

August 28th, 2009
8:25 am

I would like to nominate Doggone/GA and Finnius McCoolAid as the 2009 Drama King and Queen.

RW-(the original)

August 28th, 2009
8:33 am

How could something come to light yesterday and already be infamous?

/That comment/question was really only meant to get that hideous couple off my screen and somebody will have to tell me if Jay B wrote anything worth reading after the point that scrolling down brought the picture into view.

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2009
8:36 am

“Barak”

Who’s that?

RW-(the original)

August 28th, 2009
8:36 am

I have been waiting patiently for the demise of “real” stupid TV for too long now. I must be in the minority though since they keep coming up with even more stupid ideas for an even dumber collection of viewers. Just someone please bring back a funny smart comedy like Seinfeld, or a classic like Andy Griffith, or a decent drama.

Here here!

GOP is laying in wait,

I’m with you on this. Frankly I’m surprised there isn’t a “reality” battle of the “reality” judging panels yet.

stands for decibels

August 28th, 2009
8:43 am

I’m working on a piece about the infamous “black agenda” memo that came to light yesterday

Jay, all you hafta do is make sure to call some prominent black person a “racist.” That always gives the conservatives a stiffy.

As for Warhol’s famous prediction coming true, there’s no arguing with your summary, although it bears repeating-the-obvious that when you have a race to the bottom like this, good, scripted drama and comedy become ever-more prohibitively expensive to air, relatively speaking.

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2009
8:44 am

Personally, I don’t see the point. Fame is not a crown. Who cares why someone is famous? If they can get advertisers and viewers, more power to them. It’s not my kind of show, but if others enjoy it…why not?

USinUK

August 28th, 2009
8:45 am

RW –

“Here here!”

I second that emotion with a hear! hear!

stands for decibels

August 28th, 2009
8:46 am

I’m surprised there isn’t a “reality” battle of the “reality” judging panels yet.

heh. Hot meta-on-meta action!

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

August 28th, 2009
8:46 am

Wouldn’t it be something if the election of Barak Obozo, a direct result of the debauched and empty headed dumbing down of the American culture, would be the Waterloo for the TV freaks and Hollyweed pagans?

Could the days of American idiocy be numbered?

Are citizens realizing that they need to be informed, lest the lose their whole entire country?

stands for decibels

August 28th, 2009
8:47 am

I second that emotion with a hear! hear!

You’re sooooooooo nitpicky.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

August 28th, 2009
8:47 am

Well, I owned a 1968 Mustang. Bought it new down there at Friendly Ford (and Hey, We’re in Decatur.) That was the way the dealership sort of said DeKalb County had lower taxes than Fulton County. Anyhow, this was all before I outright went crazy for big pickup trucks. Does that count?

I don’t watch these reality shows because it would make me miss Fox News. Which is the only channel that tells the Truth and is Fair and Balanced. But from what I read, this Jon and Kate would fit right into any trailer park in the U.S. of A. It’s sort of nice the networks show reglar people in a redneck setting.

Anyhow, I got to go. I’m stocking up for all you drunks out there. When the traveling music comes today, you know your favorite beer truck driver will have plenty of cold ones ready for you. Tho from what I read on here yesterday, some of you wouldn’t know a good American beer if it was shot up your rear end. Have a good day everybody.

md

August 28th, 2009
8:49 am

Today’s programs have contributed to tomorrows problems. Kids now having sex in ELEMENTARY school.

Kids continue to have kids which are parented by crap TV.

Oh Joy.

stands for decibels

August 28th, 2009
8:49 am

How about a reality show about hard working professionals who struggle to avoid being drawn into petty, beyond-played-out political arguments and get their real work done?

Call it Survivor: Time-Suck

erm…. later, all.

RW-(the original)

August 28th, 2009
8:51 am

USinUK,

I guess the here here is my self centeredness showing itself. Or deafness maybe, come here so I can hear ye! Left you a last 9/11 tribute comment downstairs.

Gale

August 28th, 2009
8:53 am

The only reality show I’ve ever watched is TopChef. I am fairly certain I would rather watch a Japanese game show in Japanese than J&K+8.

Mrs. Godzilla

August 28th, 2009
8:54 am

md

Today’s programs have contributed to tomorrows problems. Kids now bringing weapons and behaving violently in ELEMENTARY school.

Kids continue to have kids which are parented by crap TV.

Oh Joy.

RW-(the original)

August 28th, 2009
8:55 am

TopChef is a reality show??? I thought it was an excuse to watch Padma dripping food all over herself.

Gale

August 28th, 2009
8:56 am

I actually preferred the woman on TopChef Masters. I wish they would replace Padma.

Bosch

August 28th, 2009
8:57 am

I’ve seen these people in the news lately, but I have no idea why they are famous.

I think most of these people just start saying their famous and the paparazzi believe them and start putting their picture all over the place and bingo – you’re famous, but you really didn’t do anything.

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2009
8:59 am

“I think most of these people just start saying their famous and the paparazzi believe them”

And I think it’s the other way around, and the viewers believe them.

USinUK

August 28th, 2009
8:59 am

RW –

“I guess the here here is my self centeredness showing itself. Or deafness maybe, come here so I can hear ye! Left you a last 9/11 tribute comment downstairs.”

I saw and will go back and read later tonight. here we are, so many years later, and I still get all teary reading 9/11 tributes — so, I try not to read it at work.

one of the best commemorations I’ve ever experienced was the first anniversary – WNPR in Washington (classical station) did a full day of requests and read people’s letters about what they chose and why, as well as their thoughts/prayers for the families left behind. Everything from Vaughan Williams Symphony for Strings to Gershwin’s Rhapsody in Blue — it just seemed so fitting to let music express the pain and sadness that was beyond words.

RW-(the original)

August 28th, 2009
9:00 am

Gale,

Did you know Padma was once married to Salman Rushdie? Some things are just strange beyond imagination.

Gale

August 28th, 2009
9:00 am

I think you may be right, Doggone/GA.

TnGelding

August 28th, 2009
9:02 am

GOP is gone

August 28th, 2009
8:18 am

I’VE NEVER WATCHED IT EITHER.

Gale

August 28th, 2009
9:03 am

Interesting note, RW. A foodie and a writer; I guess I can see that.

dehlia

August 28th, 2009
9:04 am

i watched two previous season episodes of J&K+8. what i saw was a wife emasculating a husband and father. figured it was a show for libs. never wasted my time again.

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2009
9:05 am

“I’VE NEVER WATCHED IT EITHER.”

I’ve tried watching it a few times, just not my thing. But I do like “Ice Road Truckers” – so what’s the issue? I think even J&K are better than those contrived “reality” shows. Though, if I wanted to be a dog groomer and had a chance to win $50K and a $100K mobile grooming truck then maybe I *would* try out for “Dog Groomer of the Year” (another show *I* don’t watch)

TnGelding

August 28th, 2009
9:05 am

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2009
8:36 am

You did it again! It slipped right by me.

Paul

August 28th, 2009
9:07 am

Well Jay, I was with you up until “as King and Queen of 2009, the symbol of modern America” – the Gosselins. The symbol of modern America? Maybe as the symbol of America’s sick fascinations. Possibly as the symbol of what modern America does not want to be. But the symbol of what modern America is? I hope not. Any more than Sarah Palin is the symbol of modern Republicans or Nancy Pelosi is the symbol of modern Democrats.

Bosch

August 28th, 2009
9:07 am

Doggone/GA,

Astute observation – yes. So…..why are these people famous?

MadMadWorld

August 28th, 2009
9:08 am

I just can’t believe that any of you that spend ALL DAY EVERY DAY posting this waste of words could call anything a waste of time. out

Gale

August 28th, 2009
9:08 am

delia, funny that the libs here apparently don’t watch it either. Crap TV knows no political boundries.

Joey

August 28th, 2009
9:09 am

Jay;
Be sure to read Cynthia’s latest post before you wrap your article.

Bosch

August 28th, 2009
9:10 am

I watched a show I’d never seen before the other day and really enjoyed it: The Dog Whisperer. That guy is amazing if it’s real.

I saw him train a viscious man eating (j/k but it looked like it could eat someone) chichuaua (?sp) that scared the dickens out of a pack of pit bulls into a cuddly little pile of dog goo.

TnGelding

August 28th, 2009
9:11 am

USinUK

August 28th, 2009
8:45 am

Good morning! Missed yuo earlier.

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

August 28th, 2009
8:46 am

Yeah, they’re reaLLY SHOWING A LOT OF INTELLIGENCE AT THE THMs. CAN YOU SAY PARANOID? Even Gringrey said he was afraid it was just the first step in a complete government takeover of health care.

Paul

August 28th, 2009
9:11 am

Bosch

Think he could work with some of our bloggers? :-)

TnGelding

August 28th, 2009
9:12 am

Redneck Convert (R–and proud of it)

August 28th, 2009
8:47 am

Be careful on the wet slippery roads….everybody.

USinUK

August 28th, 2009
9:13 am

Doggone and Gale –

the mister and I watched Ice Road Truckers a couple of times – but, really, it was the same footage time and again … got kinda boring.

I like the shows like Project Runway and X Factor/Britain’s Got Schadenfreude – at least you have to have some kind of talent and DO something rather than just have the cameras on you, fabricating drama.

Gale

August 28th, 2009
9:15 am

The thing that amazes me about the large viewership of some reality shows is that the shows “celebrate’ humiliation and failure, not acheivement and success. They are the Twinkies of TV.

Taxpayer

August 28th, 2009
9:16 am

USinUK

August 28th, 2009
9:19 am

Bosch –

you’ve only JUST found The Dog Whisperer??? we LOVE that show!

TnG –

morning, yourself!! did I miss much in the rest of the beer convo yesterday?? (he should have saved that for today)

RW-(the original)

August 28th, 2009
9:19 am

A 34 year old foodie and a 62 year old writer when they got married and the weird part is no gold digger angle. Didn’t last long though.

Turd Ferguson

August 28th, 2009
9:21 am

Futures up 60 points…YEA!!

In other news…

Documents: Marijuana found in search of Jackson’s bedroom
http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/08/28/jackson.home.search/index.html

ALso of note…skin bleaching products found amongst the other junk. I didnt know Mike was bleaching…hmmm!

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2009
9:21 am

“Astute observation – yes. So…..why are these people famous?”

Because fame is nothing more than the curiosity of enough people about you and/or what you do. Fame is a byproduct of some activities…but when it’s a goal in and of itself, that’s maybe not so good.

I have no problem with J&K being famous. They’ve got 8 kids to raise and get through college, if advertisers are willing the pay the bills for their show…more power to them. I don’t watch, but I’m not very child oriented, but why should I care if others find them interesting?

Bosch

August 28th, 2009
9:24 am

Paul,

Good point. Jay should give Cesar a call.

USinUK,

Yes, I’ve only just now found it – isn’t it on Animal Planet? We had to stay in a hotel for a few days during tree incident and we had limited channels – I discovered couple of shows I hadn’t noticed before. I love that dog he has named “Daddy” – that pit bull.

Normal

August 28th, 2009
9:25 am

I like HGTV’S Design Stars reality show. Trying for their own design show…Good stuff…

Turd Ferguson

August 28th, 2009
9:27 am

Ya…Dog Whisperer is entertaining…

Bosch

August 28th, 2009
9:27 am

Doggone/GA,

I’m not purposefully trying to be obtuse right now, but I seriously don’t know what these people — I’ve caught on that they are in a reality show – but don’t know their angle.

TnGelding

August 28th, 2009
9:27 am

USinUK

August 28th, 2009
9:19 am

Yeah, we’ve got some serious beer drinkers among us.

Hef

August 28th, 2009
9:27 am

All of America is now a reality show only scripted,from the WH down. I agree with Ms G, thank God for the Ken Burns Doc’s, History , ESPN,Golf,& Speed Channel’s.

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2009
9:32 am

“The Dog Whisperer. That guy is amazing if it’s real. ”

Yes, he’s for real. I like that show too. It’s one of the few for which I can call myself a real fan. Been watching it for 5 years now. And I’ve used some of his techniques on my dogs, and they are better for it.

jconservative

August 28th, 2009
9:32 am

Like Obama says, turn off the TV & the video game. Get a book & read.

Try this book – “Eleanor of Aquitaine: A Life” by Alison Weir. Wonderful biography of one of the great women of the western world.

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2009
9:33 am

“Yes, I’ve only just now found it – isn’t it on Animal Planet?”

National Geographic

Paul

August 28th, 2009
9:35 am

Gale 9:15

Rather like schools that put headlines in the marquee of “district football champions” or “first in cheerleading competition” or “won a basketball game” but never mention graduation rates or kids graduating from a votech program or going on to higher education.

Bosch 9:27

What’d you do – get your own word of the day calendar?

Dave R.

August 28th, 2009
9:35 am

I see that the “Culture of Corruption” continues unabated in Democrat-controlled Washington, D.C. today:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/27/richardson-investigation-killed-washington/

Normal

August 28th, 2009
9:36 am

Hef

August 28th, 2009
9:27 am

Don’t forget the Military Channel, the Western Channel, History International. I’ll watch Fox only during football season. On my Comcast “on Demand”, there are good shows like Warehouse 13, Monk, Eureka, Burn Notice, and In plain sight. that are commercial free that makes ‘em worth watching.

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2009
9:42 am

I watch Animal Planet, History Channel, NGC,TLC etc. I never watch any of the big three broadcast channels and haven’t for 25 years now…ever since my favorite show was canceled.

Pat

August 28th, 2009
9:46 am

Thanks for the laughs this morning. Don’t know who was funnier – good ‘ole Bud Wiser, who could find something in an oped about traffic lights to use to slam the Obamas, or poor Paul, appalled at your selection of Kate & Jon Gosselin as poster-children for our dumbed-down nation. Paul buddy, calm down – it’s called irony, dude – look it up.

I actually suggested to the folks at Fox that there should, indeed, be a show that judges celebrity judges called, “So you think you can judge – or better yet, “So you think you can do what you judge.” Listening to Paula Abdul bleating her way through a song live would be excruciating, but like a bad traffic accident, you wouldn’t be able to stop looking.

The creators of MTVs disgusting “Real World” should be publicly flogged for creating the nightmarish laboratory-experiment-run-amock called reality TV. But hey, wait … wouldn’t that
make a great reality show? Each week, there’d be a new panel …
No, must … stop … the… madness…

AmVet

August 28th, 2009
9:50 am

The sentiment that today’s TV, movies and music have turned darling little Two-ton Johnny and Susie the Wide Track Pontiac into lascivious, drug fiends is an outdated and failed argument.

This vacuous trash is enormously popular with adults and children NOT because the media moguls foist in on the unwilling and more discerning but exactly because our generally brain dead populace of all ages clamors for it.

Remember when that teenager killed himself and the kids parents, supported by a legion of puritan loons, wanted Ozzy Osborne’s ass in the clink for it?

Wake up! If one is suicidal they are not going to need Black Sabbath records to consummate their desires..

And if one is a patron of the mindless they don’t need most of what is on television of the movies. They can go to the malls. Or test each other about absolutely nothing until the cows come home.

Jesse Helms and Tipper Gore tried their damnedest to foment this argument and summarily failed.

And Frank Zappa rests in peace…

Hef

August 28th, 2009
9:51 am

Jcon@9:32, no Obama said turn off your TV’s & video games and read MY book.

Paul

August 28th, 2009
9:51 am

Pat

Thanks for the reality check.

And American Idol viewership will go down if Paula doesn’t return. Nothing better than to hear her first comment of the night, check the grin and eye focus and guess “what’s she drinking in her Coke cup tonight?”

AmVet

August 28th, 2009
9:52 am

Redact the above to read text not test (which ironically is something that the sleep through class crowd I’m talking about abhor!)

Mrs. Godzilla

August 28th, 2009
9:54 am

My Mr. G may be the occasional curmudgeon, but he’s no old goat!

Bosch

August 28th, 2009
9:55 am

And, I’ve never seen American Idol – nor have any of my children.

Paul,

Sometimes I just pull those words right out of my arse. :-)

Paul

August 28th, 2009
9:55 am

AmVet

So much for the argument of “that guy who shot those people?!?? Did you see the books police found in his home?!?? Did you hear what those rightwing neocon talking heads said that made him do it?!??!!”

Darn, I’m pretty happy I’ve not seen some of the shows people are discussing.

Bosch

August 28th, 2009
9:56 am

Paul,

“So much for the argument of “that guy who shot those people?!??”

Which guy – there’ve been alot lately.

“Did you see the books police found in his home?!??

No, which ones?

Did you hear what those rightwing neocon talking heads said that made him do it?!??!!”

NO…….WHAT? WHAT?

Don’t leave me hanging dude!

Dandy Don

August 28th, 2009
9:59 am

The celebrity junkyard fills up faster than ever, too. Ryan Starr, anyone?

Hef

August 28th, 2009
9:59 am

Doggone-which fav was cancelled?

RW-(the original)

August 28th, 2009
10:00 am

And American Idol viewership will go down if Paula doesn’t return.

Paul,

She’s already gone.

/Yes, I’m married to a “reality” addict….

Taxpayer

August 28th, 2009
10:02 am

On the lighter side.

WASHINGTON — President Richard Nixon considered Ted Kennedy such a threat that he tried to catch Kennedy cheating on his wife, even ordering aides to recruit Secret Service agents to spill secrets on the senator’s behavior.

“Do you have anybody in the Secret Service that you can get to?” Nixon asked his aide John Ehrlichman in a stark series of Oval Office conversations about Kennedy before the 1972 election. “Yeah, yeah,” Ehrlichman replied.

“Plant one,” Nixon said. “Plant two guys on him. This could be very useful.”

Nixon made clear that the Secret Service protection afforded Kennedy before the 1972 election would be rescinded after. Then, said the president, “If he gets shot, it’s too damn bad.” His aides disdainfully referred to Kennedy supporters as “super swinger jet set types.”

Sage

August 28th, 2009
10:02 am

Hey Bud wiser You do realize the penultimate means next to last. Right?

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2009
10:04 am

“Doggone-which fav was cancelled?”

I used to work 4pm to midnight, and the show came on at 1AM…an award winning news show called “Overnight” It was a ground-breaking show, and when it was canceled people actually PICKETED the NBC (I think it was NBC) headquarters in NYC.

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2009
10:07 am

Latest report on Glenn Beck: 46 advertisers have now dropped his show.

Paul

August 28th, 2009
10:08 am

Bosch

You should write for one of those shows!

RW-(the original)

I’d hoped it was just a contract negotiating ploy. Oh, well….

Sage 10:02

Around here, what something means is not important. It’s what people think it means that’s important.

Careful, or they’ll start calling you a semanticist.

Later -

Bosch

August 28th, 2009
10:09 am

Taxpayer,

I saw the HBO documentary about Ted Kennedy on CNN the other night – it had excerpt from Nixon’s tapes ordering Ehrilichman (?sp) to have the Secret Service agents get dirt on him. What a scary paranoid man that Nixon was.

Kamchak

August 28th, 2009
10:10 am

…good scripted drama and comedy become ever-more prohibitively expensive to air, relatively speaking.

Operative word being relatively. Ever since the acrimonious writer’s strike in 1988, producers have sought to circumvent those creative individuals that make TeeVee interesting. Eliminate writers and we get game shows, talent shows and edited-for-drama “reality.”

Paul

August 28th, 2009
10:10 am

Doggone/GA

How many new ones has he added? I’d guess some of the dropped ones found the rates too expensive.

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2009
10:11 am

“What a scary paranoid man that Nixon was.”

One of the finest things I ever heard was that Johnny Carson said “no more Nixon jokes” because he was “a sick man”

Taxpayer

August 28th, 2009
10:11 am

It was back in 1971 and President Nixon was concerned that he would once again have to face a Kennedy in the next year’s election — in this case a Kennedy with a proposal to extend health care to all Americans. Feeling the need to offer an alternative, Nixon asked Congress to require for the first time that all companies provide a health plan for their employees, with federal subsidies for low-income workers. Nixon was particularly intrigued by a new idea called health maintenance organizations, which held the promise of providing high-quality care at lower prices by relying on salaried physicians to manage and coordinate patient care.

Naw! Tell me it ain’t so.

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2009
10:13 am

“How many new ones has he added?”

Who cares?

Taxpayer

August 28th, 2009
10:13 am

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2009
10:07 am
Latest report on Glenn Beck: 46 advertisers have now dropped his show.

Impossible! I mean, given the time constraints and all. :smile:

Paul

August 28th, 2009
10:15 am

Taxpayer

I heard Sen Hatch relate that episode – Sen Kennedy rejected it. According to Hatch, it was a profoundly disappointing experience for Kennedy, who felt he’d missed a good opportunity by not compromising. Hatch said it did shape Kennedy’s later interactions to find common ground, that something is better than nothing.

Good advice for those he left behind.

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator (-: You Whine )-:

August 28th, 2009
10:16 am

The whole entire AJC “Living” section and the front page of their website is nothing more than a clearinghouse for the latest in smut and indecency, like a print edition of the TV, and each and every day upon receiving my Urinal, I crumple it up and dispose of it in the trash receptacle, where it belongs.

I have absolutely no idea who the couple is.

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2009
10:17 am

“Impossible! I mean, given the time constraints and all”

Yeah! Let’s see…if each advertiser gets a 30 second spot, that’s 23 minutes out of each hour of the show. Maybe we should encourage MORE sponsers so we can get 60 minutes of advertising…GOTTA be more interesting.

GOP is gone

August 28th, 2009
10:17 am

RW
Now you have me thinking of an elephant crouched down trying to hide behind a small rock and jump out when the time is right.

I think it all started with Jerry Springer and the likes. Like someone said above, some people just have to stare at accident scenes, which sadly a lot of the general public have become, one literally HUGE accident scene.

jc,

One of the best movies ever made, “A Lion in Winter” about Eleanor and Henry. I’m sure you have seen it too. Just down right eloquent acting and script without the benefit of todays overly graphic and overly done movies.

Normal

August 28th, 2009
10:18 am

Taxpayer, I voted for Nixon for his first term on the promise that he would get us out of ‘Nam. Didn’t vote for him the second time around, but I will give the Devil his due. He was a pretty good International President. He was just a lousy domistic President.

Paul

August 28th, 2009
10:19 am

Doggone/GA

Who cares? Try changing your perspective. If 46 have dropped and 50 have added, it’s a gain?

Remember the argument those supporting health care reform use when those opposed said “ah-hah! 60,000 people canceled AARP last month over health care!” They said, ‘yeah, well a few hundred thousand signed up!”

Consistency in arguments -

Later -

mike

August 28th, 2009
10:20 am

Doggone –

“Yeah! Let’s see…if each advertiser gets a 30 second spot, that’s 23 minutes out of each hour of the show. Maybe we should encourage MORE sponsers so we can get 60 minutes of advertising…GOTTA be more interesting.”

Yes, folks who put on TV programming should do so for free. I mean you work for free, right?

RW-(the original)

August 28th, 2009
10:21 am

I’d hoped it was just a contract negotiating ploy. Oh, well….

Paul,

I sense a bizarre interest in Paula and I’m trying hard not to retch, but she’s going to land on So You Think You Can Dance if you need a PA fix.

AmVet

August 28th, 2009
10:21 am

Good point Paul.

That sociopathic scumbag who murdered those “liberals” didn’t need Hannity or O’Reilly’s books to draw the “conclusions” he did, they just “confirmed” what he desperately wanted to believe.

That his political cousins do not want to deal with it/him is the most interesting part of the equation to me. Ostriches by nature, by choice and by political persuasion.

And I still whole heartedly contend that there are more Jim Adkissons to come.

I DO believe that the current president in spite of his numerous glaring “short comings” is at least NOT an ill-read, mental lightweight like his predecessor.

The one that is sanctified by the under-educated and intentionally ignorant.

And can someone PLEASE explain this almost mystical new outrage? Where the hell was that for the past decade??? When it’s obviously required presence would have possibly made a DRAMATIC difference in how the imperious, tortured and torturing Bush White House conspicuously sucker punched half an electorate into neo-con hell?

Fops with zero cred…

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2009
10:22 am

“Consistency in arguments”

But I never made that argument. I’ve never actually seen Beck’s show (or Olbermann’s or Stewart’s for that matter). Those kinds of shows bore me beyond silly. I just think it’s interesting how the advertiser’s have dropped it.