These days, you take sanity where you can find it

So I’m driving on an errand and listening to the Braves pre-game show, and an ad comes on featuring … crazy Glenn Beck.

He starts talking about how scary the world is these days, then launches into a sermon about the importance of having health insurance from Coventry Health Insurance and warning that nobody should ever risk going without health coverage and you better call them now or else. Glenn Beck of all people.

And I’m thinking, OK, the world is now officially doomed.

I do my errand, get back in the car and drive home, just in time to hear some woman butchering the national anthem on the radio. I hate that. And then Chip Carey comes on afterward and says, “That was S—- M—–, screaming the national anthem.”

I laughed out loud, and sanity was returned to my world. I do miss the late Skip Carey. I miss his sardonic sense of humor. But Chip may be a chip off the old block. Thanks, Chip.

174 comments Add your comment

Gred Mendel

August 27th, 2009
8:13 pm

And Glenn beck dares call himself an idiot. What a moron.

Ray

August 27th, 2009
8:25 pm

Beck is an insult to idiots.

TnGelding

August 27th, 2009
8:35 pm

The Careys were a national treasure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo9fEADUqPs&feature=related

Beck will be off the air by the end of the year.

I’m starting to feel right at home in this insane world.

md

August 27th, 2009
8:50 pm

Tn,

Beck may be a flake, but his numbers won’t have him “off the air by the end of the year”.

Last nights #’s:

The O’Reilly Factor – 3,303,000 viewers (876,000) (1,468,000)

Glenn Beck – 3,040,000 viewers (888,000) (1,385,000)

Hannity – 2,592,000 viewers (752,000) (1,158,000)

On The Record w/ Greta Van Susteren—2,104,000 viewers (577,000) (985,000)

Special Report with Bret Baier– 2,067,000 viewers (463,000) (881,000)

Fox Report w/Shep Smith–1,590,000 viewers (454,000) (729,000)

Larry King Live—1,182,000 viewers (299,000) (473,000)

Hardball w Chris Matthews—1,123,000 viewers (381,000) (583,000)

Countdown w/ K. Olbermann– 1,091,000 viewers (320,000) (504,000)

josef nix

August 27th, 2009
8:52 pm

md–question, though, how many of those are viewers like me, who channel surf ‘em all?

TnGelding

August 27th, 2009
9:04 pm

md

August 27th, 2009
8:50 pm

He’ll be under Obama/Kennedy/Care.

Angry Black Man

August 27th, 2009
9:04 pm

I’ll watch Glenn Beck once he’s on the Military Channel or Nat Geo. Programs on those two channels dwarf anything put out by Fox, CNN, ABC, MSNBC, or any other alphabet channel.

DoggoneGA

August 27th, 2009
9:08 pm

“Beck may be a flake, but his numbers won’t have him “off the air by the end of the year”.”

Numbers won’t matter if they can’t find any advertisers to pay the bills. Remember, advertisers pay for the audience…but if the hosts message is offensive enough, they may decide they don’t need THAT audience. Last count I saw was 36 advertisers have turned thumbs down on his show.

RB from Gwinnett

August 27th, 2009
9:09 pm

Hey ABM, what do you think of the “mayor memo”?

josef nix

August 27th, 2009
9:11 pm

ABM–couldn’t agree more! And know what, mos folks would be shocked to know just how many of our little ones tune in.

j$

August 27th, 2009
9:11 pm

TBS is advertising the Obama Chia Pet.

Get ‘em while they’re hot.

md

August 27th, 2009
9:16 pm

“Numbers won’t matter if they can’t find any advertisers to pay the bills. Remember, advertisers pay for the audience…but if the hosts message is offensive enough, they may decide they don’t need THAT audience. Last count I saw was 36 advertisers have turned thumbs down on his show.”

With those kind of numbers, I would bet Murdoch would fund it himself if need be.

md

August 27th, 2009
9:17 pm

Jo,

Good question. You may be in several of the rows. May even be like the SAT’s.

md

August 27th, 2009
9:19 pm

And Beck’s show isn’t even in “prime” time.

Angry Black Man

August 27th, 2009
9:21 pm

RB

That mayor memo is a crock of $hit! Well at least for me it is. I’ll be invited to join the Klan before I vote on someone based only on skin color. But the sad part is, people buy into that line of thinking.

rcs

August 27th, 2009
9:27 pm

hey josef, how’ve you been doing?

RW-(the original)

August 27th, 2009
9:28 pm

I laughed out loud, and sanity was returned to my world. I do miss the late Skip Carey. I miss his sardonic sense of humor. But Chip may be a chip off the old block. Thanks, Chip.

Mostly agreed but Chip’s baseball knowledge would fit in the discarded shell of a sunflower seed.

Finn McCool

August 27th, 2009
9:41 pm

i don’t know, I’ve heard chip make some pretty inane remarks.

Ray

August 27th, 2009
9:43 pm

Are FOX’s numbers so high because rightwingers don’t read books?

josef nix

August 27th, 2009
9:44 pm

rcs–fine, thank you kindly. Thanks for the kind thoughts during my time on Dante’s Fifth Circle.

md–I belong to the world! :-)

ABM–would that more couldn’t see that. Back during the campaign I p**sed off a lot of my co-workers who were gah-gahing over Obama by reminding them that I was gay and was not about to vote for him. I was immediately deemed a closet racist. My partner in twit joined in: “now you just hold on a minute, Josef. We’re from the same generation. Who would have ever thought we’d have a black man running and being taking seriously as a candidate? And we can vote against him!”

Dave R.

August 27th, 2009
9:49 pm

I heard that even Fox & Friends in the a.m. beat that blowhard Olbermann the other day in the ratings.

Beck can be really over the top sometimes, but he’s asking some very interesting questions lately on the backgrounds and lack of qualifications of the many Hope & Change czars.

And Jay, in case you missed it, Beck is simply pointing out that there is a private, free market solution to not having affordable health care; you know – one that doesn’t require the government?

Angry Black Man

August 27th, 2009
9:50 pm

Josef,

I didn’t take him seriously as a candidate at first. I saw him as another in the long line of snake-oil salesmen whom we’ve had pushed upon us as candidates. It sounds good to make all those promises knowing you can’t deliver half of them. Most people fail to understand this part of our political process.

Class of '98

August 27th, 2009
9:51 pm

If the ratings are high enough, the sponsors won’t go anywhere.

Capitalism is a BEAUTIFUL thing.

Kayaker 71

August 27th, 2009
9:56 pm

Have you listened to what Beck has to say? Probably not… he’s just some right wing kook who doesn’t get it. But he has been asking a lot of questions this week that I would like to have some answers for. And the White House and no one else has challenged his allegations, not once. He continues to be very high in the ratings for TV watchers, his book is No 1 on the Best Seller list and he has a very loyal viewing audience that is very large.
Look up Van Jones, Bozo’s Green Jobs czar. He has a pretty checkered history… sort of a Angela Davis lookalike. Jail time, inarticulate answers to questions about what his role in the White House is. He has been allocated nearly 1/2 TRILLON dollars from the government to the Apollo Alliance, which he helped found. Green Jobs and energy reform is what the website says but there is a lot more to that organization that demands taxpayer oversight. And he is at Bozo’s side… he is a “you know”, “know what I’m sayin”, barely articulate (when you watch the tapes) sorry excuse for someone in his position and he is spending our money… a lot of it. Just one of a number of people who surround our leader with less than good intentions for our country. Beck is not the enemy, libs, not by a long shot.

md

August 27th, 2009
9:58 pm

” It sounds good to make all those promises knowing you can’t deliver half of them. Most people fail to understand this part of our political process”

That statement belongs in the last thread for all the “stupid” people.

Sad, isn’t it.

Pokey

August 27th, 2009
10:01 pm

So Beck is some kind of hypocrite for suggesting that one should own private health insurance?

JB, your hatred for those that don’t share your world view frequently blinds you to the absurdity and idiocy of your “insights”. You apparently possess no self-awareness.

I am amazed at how willing so many are to cede their health insurance to the government. It is stunning really, particularly since the advocates of “universal healthcare” are so dishonest about the content and implications of the legislation. Strange world we live in when Barney Frank is the most honest advocate about what this “reform” effort really means.

Dave R.

August 27th, 2009
10:01 pm

And does anyone else on this blog find it ironic as all get-out that Jay is thinking he’s capable of figuring out what is sanity and what is not?

And you know your losing your base when Democrat apologist Kirsten Powers lays into Hope & Change for not supporting tort reform and not being bipartisan, as she did on Special Report tonight.

DoggoneGA

August 27th, 2009
10:02 pm

“If the ratings are high enough, the sponsors won’t go anywhere”

Which…of COURSE…explains why he’s lost 36 advertisers so far. Yeah, great logic there.

Angry Black Man

August 27th, 2009
10:04 pm

md

All politicians do it regardless of party affiliation. I view politicians as a means to an end. It kinda makes it easy to make choices when you do that. It’s worked well for the lobby industry, so why should it be any different for me? I try to ignore the promises and pay attention to where the money is coming from. Once you find the source of the money, then you find the power and agenda.

DoggoneGA

August 27th, 2009
10:07 pm

“I am amazed at how willing so many are to cede their health insurance to the government”

I’m sure you are…especially in light of the fact that no one has proposed any such thing.

josef nix

August 27th, 2009
10:11 pm

ABM and MD–I take pride in knowing that I come from a country where a candidate of an oppressed 12% minority can achieve the highest office in the land AND prove to be the equal of anyone else in being…well, let’s just say, a typical politico…and, really, that IS progress…

RW-(the original)

August 27th, 2009
10:15 pm

Which…of COURSE…explains why he’s lost 36 advertisers so far. Yeah, great logic there.

DoggoneGA,

You do realize Beck only has a one hour show don’t you? If he had 36 sponsors he’d have a 12 second show. Maybe a minute and a half if you staggered them through the week.

AmVet

August 27th, 2009
10:16 pm

Granted they are dying off faster than the earth’s rain forests but there are still quite a few of these gullible dupes and flat-earth fops in the lunatic fringe these days.

The same myopic maladroits who thought George Bush et al were paragons of American conservationism! And who were intentionally misled into beleiving Saddam was in cahoots with al Queda. Among innuyerable other obvious deceptions and prevarications.

And yet the lockstep Party of No fell for it all!

So to think that Glenn Beck, or any of his equally vapid and vacuous cousins on TV or radio, are a source of credible information is pretty laughable in and of itself.

But clearly this one is very confused.

Is he a funny guy?

Is he a straight man?

Is he for real?

Just another darling of Tard TV…

Angry Black Man

August 27th, 2009
10:16 pm

I have a question that’s been on my mind. Throughout the whole health care argument, people always make reference to the free market. At the same time insurance companies are shelling out benjamins to lobby congress to change, weaken, kill, (or whatever verb you wish to put there) the legislation. My question is, if the free market is the means to an end, why aren’t the insurance companies themselves making changes to their policies to insure more or bring down costs?

josef nix

August 27th, 2009
10:20 pm

Pokey:

“JB, your hatred for those that don’t share your world view frequently blinds you to the absurdity and idiocy of your “insights”. You apparently possess no self-awareness.”

I’ve got my own “issues” with Jay and have no problem with a swipe or two at him when it comes to certain blind spots, but he does not “hate” those who do not share his world view and that’s unfair. Of the many things I might call him, hateful is not one of them.

Angry Black Man

August 27th, 2009
10:24 pm

Josef

Pride indeed. Now Shhhhh!!! You’re gonna let our secret out. Other than the additional melanin and hair texture, we’re not vastly different from our oppressors. I tend to think we’re somewhat genetically superior in some areas, but that would touch off a firestorm for sure here. We’d have to discuss that in private.

Pokey

August 27th, 2009
10:24 pm

Doggone,

You are kidding right?? Have you read ANY of the legislation? That is not even a debatable point.

To quote Barney Frank, “What planet do you live on?”

RW-(the original)

August 27th, 2009
10:25 pm

ABM,

Mostly because of government coverage mandates, government interference with competition crossing state lines, and government’s refusal to reign in the trial lawyers that hold a gun to the docs head to make them run every test in the book whether needed or not.

The biggest boondoggle is employer based coverage and once again that came about because of government interference. After a while you start to wonder how long people can turn to government to “fix” the problems they create.

josef nix

August 27th, 2009
10:27 pm

AmVet–there you go again! What you got against the flat earthers?

“Is he a straight man?”

Ooo, you didn’t say that!! The Unmentionable says of him, “Girlfriend, rest!” Kinda reminds you a bit of Jedgar, don’t it!

Dusty

August 27th, 2009
10:28 pm

Well, I see there is still hope for Bookman. He was listening to the start of the Braves game. THE BRAVES GAME!!!!!

And in case you laggards are not keeping up, Padres are a big fat zero and Braves are NINE. and LaRoche homered in the sixth.. Oh the excitement, the exhileration, the elation!!!

As to Skip, I still have my neat little paper fan that says “I’m a Skip & Pete Fan”.. Got it a couple of summers ago at Turner Field. Yes, I miss Skip.

PS to DebbieDoRight. Anybody finding pleasure in the study of TAXES should surely find excitement in a baseball game. Studying taxes would be like slow death while baseball, ahhhh..the ambrosia of sports and pleasure!

DoggoneGA

August 27th, 2009
10:30 pm

“If he had 36 sponsors he’d have a 12 second show. Maybe a minute and a half if you staggered them through the week.”

What’s your math on that one? And you DO realize that not all sponsers advertise every day, don’t you? DON’T you?

AmVet

August 27th, 2009
10:30 pm

In this lifelong baseball fan’s opinion, that 9:28 is nonsense.

I grew up listening to Jack Buck and Harry Carey doing Cardinal games on AM radio.

And I adored Skip Carey as the de facto voice of the Braves for decades.

And though Chip is not in their league yet, he is more than respectable.

He shares his forebears keen sense of observation and wit. And has a wealth of knowledge about the history and nuances of the game.

And though a tad dry, he is infinitely preferable to the arrogance of a Don Sutton or a John Sterling or the bush league homerism of a Hawk Harrelson.

He will undoubtedly become another great Carey baseball man…

AmVet

August 27th, 2009
10:32 pm

josef!

Now I will forever have to make some sort of left-handed explanation about straight men in comedy.

Thanks for ruining it for me!

Just kidding…

RW-(the original)

August 27th, 2009
10:32 pm

And you DO realize that not all sponsers (sic) advertise every day, don’t you? DON’T you?

Why yes I do and you were even kind enough to include that evidence in your excerpt of my comment. Good job!

josef nix

August 27th, 2009
10:33 pm

ABM–Firestorm–aw, why not? Had a boyfriend once with, uh, more melanin, who was questioned what he was doing with “that white jewboy.” He just said, “well there’s a dead (you know who) in the woodpile somewhere and it comes out where it counts!” BTW–how private? :-)

DoggoneGA

August 27th, 2009
10:34 pm

“My question is, if the free market is the means to an end, why aren’t the insurance companies themselves making changes to their policies to insure more or bring down costs?”

Because at the moment they have a lock on the market. There’s no viable, real, competition for them. They’re a lot like those “home loan” sites that offer you multiple quotes on mortgage financing. But what they don’t tell you is that banks use more or less the same forumla to calculate how much interest they will offer on a particular kind of home.

I tried one, once, and got 5 offers – all with IDENTICAL interest rates. Yeah, now THAT’s competition alright.

Dave R.

August 27th, 2009
10:34 pm

Doggone, and when 36 sponsors (not sure you’re right about that, though) drop off, 36 more are waiting in the wings. Beck will be on the air longer than Hope & Change will be President.

DoggoneGA

August 27th, 2009
10:36 pm

“Why yes I do and you were even kind enough to include that evidence in your excerpt of my comment. Good job!”

But I notice you didn’t include your math that led you to conclude he would only have a 12 second show if he had lost that many advertisers. Oversight on your part, I’m sure.

DoggoneGA

August 27th, 2009
10:37 pm

“You are kidding right?? Have you read ANY of the legislation? That is not even a debatable point”

So quote chapter and verse where the current, proposed, legislation requires us to give up our insurance to the government. I’m sure you can put your finger on it just like THAT!

DoggoneGA

August 27th, 2009
10:39 pm

“Doggone, and when 36 sponsors (not sure you’re right about that, though) drop off, 36 more are waiting in the wings. Beck will be on the air longer than Hope & Change will be President”

And your point is? He’s still lost 36 advertisers as of last reporting.

Pokey

August 27th, 2009
10:40 pm

Doggone,

I don’t have time to explain it to you…ever heard of government mandates? Can you buy insurance from other states? Why not?, etc, etc, etc. Do some research!

Busy body politicians,special interests and gov’t bureaucrats have created countless obstacles to the free market.

RW-(the original)

August 27th, 2009
10:41 pm

And though a tad dry, he is infinitely preferable to the arrogance of a Don Sutton or a John Sterling or the bush league homerism of a Hawk Harrelson.

Mostly agreed with the exception that Don Sutton knows the game infinitely better than most announcers but he just becomes boring through repetition much like the cartoonish Tim McCarver.

It would appear that the 10:30 is nonsense in that it tries to equate announcer performance with baseball knowledge. That’s not unreasonable in that the 10:30 was obviously an observer and not a participant.

Angry Black Man

August 27th, 2009
10:43 pm

Thanks RW

I didn’t approach my thinking from the regulation standpoint. I keep my thinking simple. I’m no expert on the health industry, so I leave the deep stuff to the pros. It seems to me that if a non-profit insurance provider could enter the market without being run off or bought out by the big guys, that could be the start of the answer for providing affordable insurance. Let those who buy into the insurance become the shareholders. The profits that companies would strive for could be used as cost savings for the plan. That’s what I was thinking, if I make any sense at all.

DoggoneGA

August 27th, 2009
10:43 pm

“I don’t have time to explain it to you…ever heard of government mandates?”

But are those mandates actually in the proposed legislation? Or is this something more like the “death panels” baloney. And why would I want to buy insurance from another state? Insurance is insurance, who cares where the home office is located?

Pokey

August 27th, 2009
10:44 pm

So you are saying you haven’t read it, Doggone?

Yes/No question for you…if the House legislation becomes law and you lose your job, will you be able to purchase a private health insurance policy without violating the law?

DoggoneGA

August 27th, 2009
10:46 pm

“That’s what I was thinking, if I make any sense at all.”

Sure it makes sense, but without “seed” money it’s not happening. In our oh, so regulated market you can’t just set up a shop front and start selling insurance. I’m sure the “free marketers” just DEPLORE it, but you actually have to be able to cover a certain percentage of possible future claims in order to sell insurance. Because if you don’t “all” you have is a Ponzi scheme.

RW-(the original)

August 27th, 2009
10:46 pm

But I notice you didn’t include your math that led you to conclude he would only have a 12 second show if he had lost that many advertisers

Now, now DoggoneGA, you’re going the way all you moonbats go in these discussions and some people know that if they scroll up the old words are still there.

I clearly said if he was trying to pack all these sponsors into a show he would have less time for him. Tsk tsk….where’s USinUK? Isn’t it her turn to buy breakfast?

Pokey

August 27th, 2009
10:50 pm

Doggone,

I give up…you are embarrassing yourself with you ignorance of the basic terms, issues, etc of the debate,

I am addressing your question about the free market and why it is not allowed to work…state mandates, lack of interstate competition, etc.

I wasn’t referring to mandates within the current plans but yes they are there galore.

Stop repeating cliches and talking points and do some research.

wet wiccan

August 27th, 2009
10:50 pm

Seriously, I think Glenn Beck needs help. He reminds me of that character Howard Beale in the movie Network who had a complete meltdown on camera. And the ratings were great . . .

Angry Black Man

August 27th, 2009
10:51 pm

Josef

Well, when you factor in the manner of most of our arrival to the new world, the weaker people didn’t survive. Then add in the condition of servitude that was endured. Plus, we were bred to be big strong cotton bale toting bucks that would breed other big strong cotton bale toting bucks. Those who were on the weaker end were not used as “breeders”. Over the course of several generations, that whole breed out the bad genes and enhance the good genes kinda replicates until you have a physically superior person, capable of superior strength and endurance when properly trained. Look at the majority of athletes in basketball, football, track & field… and you kinda see my line of thinking, right?

josef nix

August 27th, 2009
10:52 pm

RW–

“Tsk tsk….where’s USinUK? Isn’t it her turn to buy breakfast?”

While I certainly enjoy the evening’s company, I miss not having time to spend with her…one of my favorite jousting partners with a really wicked sense of humor (or is that humOUr?)

RW-(the original)

August 27th, 2009
10:53 pm

ABM,

It makes as much sense as anything else in this debate. It seems to me when you want to solve a complex problem where nobody knows all the variables is to start where there’s common ground. DB the hillbilly ragger decibel guy or whatever his name is these days and I couldn’t be more opposed on a solution but we both agree that employer based coverage is a main source of trouble. If a consensus could coalesce around that being the biggest problem then it seems we could work together to get that part solved first. Unfortunately our government wants to look at their partisan end games and map a strategy to reach them. Probably a great idea in a war but not so much in domestic policy.

RW-(the original)

August 27th, 2009
10:54 pm

(or is that humOUr?)

josef,

I think that’s only when she becomes UKinUS.

Dave R.

August 27th, 2009
10:56 pm

Doggone, my point is that boycotts don’t work. For every person / company that drops off, there are many more to take their place, and gladly do so.

That you even think this is important is astounding to me.

Angry Black Man

August 27th, 2009
10:56 pm

DoggoneGA

Wouldn’t that be the way a co-op would function?

AmVet

August 27th, 2009
10:57 pm

I concur that McCarver is insufferable. As is Joe Morgan generally.

Almost surprisingly I find Ron Gant very enjoyable as a “color” (DO NOT go there!) post-game analyst. Well spoken and highly informative.

But I stand by my original assertion that this “observation” that “Chip’s baseball knowledge would fit in the discarded shell of a sunflower seed.” is just an unsupportable opinion. (As is mine.)

Unless there is some vast well-documented “Chip Carey does not know baseball” web site I’m unaware of!

Dusty

August 27th, 2009
11:01 pm

Now Folks,” All’s well that ends well” and this was swell The Braves had a 9-1 WIN!!!

So, good night and sleep well and may the good Lord watch over each one of you.

RW-(the original)

August 27th, 2009
11:02 pm

I concur that McCarver is insufferable. As is Joe Morgan generally.

SEE! Common ground abounds tonight.

Chip has a great voice and the lineage to keep him around long enough to learn the game, but he really needs to learn that something being fisted to left isn’t always the best way to reference a soft single.

/Odds on the getting through moderation on the first try?

josef nix

August 27th, 2009
11:03 pm

ABM–not a topic most are comfortable with, but it is the reality whether we want to talk about it or not. People get mad at me when I use the term “culture and breeding” particularly in relation to those of us from Uncle Sam’s Oldest Colony. We Jews are the products of generations of “intellectualism.” Whenever I try to explain why it is so necessary for the black American to put emphasis on the scientific achievements of their “race,” folks miss that I say it’s the equivalent of Jews needing to take pride in a Sandy Koufax or a Mark Spitz. How can “they” ever understand that, political ideologies aside, Ariel Sharon is a hero to me?

RW-(the original)

August 27th, 2009
11:04 pm

WOW! It made it through

AmVet,

I went into snark mode before reading the Ron Gant bit. Ron is decent doing pre/post game but he’s outstanding doing the analyst role during a live broadcast.

md

August 27th, 2009
11:09 pm

abm,

Your 10:51 got Jimmy the Greek fired.

Angry Black Man

August 27th, 2009
11:11 pm

Josef

I’ve never thought about the Jewish culture like that, but that’s it. Like it or hate it. That’s why I personally tried to exceed in school with academics as opposed to sports. I think I did ok. BS Cum Laude in Mathematics and a honor student from K thru college. I just hope I can pass that on to the ABD.

Angry Black Man

August 27th, 2009
11:13 pm

md

And that was wrong for him to get fired for that. Sometimes people need to get off the PC wagon and open their eyes to the truth. A message like that has to be delivered with great care. You just can’t blast off a message like that. People are not ready to face that. It would mean that we’d have to come to grips with our past.

RW-(the original)

August 27th, 2009
11:15 pm

For once Jay B is a trendsetter. Chelsea Lately is doing a segment right now on that hideous chicken thing we had down below.

md

August 27th, 2009
11:16 pm

abm,

It is what it is – right?

As for PC – the undoing of a once great nation. We all have to talk in code and nobody knows the language.

Angry Black Man

August 27th, 2009
11:19 pm

md

“It is what it is – right?”

That about sums it up. Can’t agree with you more on the PC statement too.

josef nix

August 27th, 2009
11:24 pm

ABM–I trust you will understand what I’m saying here. You say “I never thought of the Jewish culture like that, but that’s it.” There’s really no reason you should. Most people don’t, just as they don’t think about your “big black buck” angst. I understand why my brothers were so driven to excel in sports, their pride NOT in their academic scholarships, but their athletic ones. You will be able to pass that on the ABD. She’s got a good role model (well, let me correct that, I am certain that ABW is your equal if not superior in that!). You can imagine what the Unmentionable and I had to do to make certain that our little Indians grew up secure in who they are and where they came from, aware of the prejudices and stereotypes and knowing that just because they had to challenge them at every turn, they would come through it the stronger.

josef nix

August 27th, 2009
11:32 pm

md

“As for PC – the undoing of a once great nation. We all have to talk in code and nobody knows the language.”

Which is what ticked me off so much about Jay and the Moderator. We have reached a level of public censorship which makes it impossible to discuss very real issues. We no longer can have a dialogue because we are trapped into the pc monologue, with my “side” right and your “side” wrong. The idea that both may be right, or both may be wrong, verboten to the discusssion.

Angry Black Man

August 27th, 2009
11:35 pm

Josef

The ABW calls me her “brain”. When we first started dating, she’d be amazed at me watching Jeopardy. I’d give most of the questions without a second thought. She’s smart in her own right though. I’d be lost without her. The ABD’s gonna be a bright one. She’s already emulating everything I do. She even knows how to do the tomahawk chop (I’m a diehard lifetime Braves fan). Just let the Unmentionable One know we mean no disrespect when we do it, and we don’t mean to offend. :D

josef nix

August 27th, 2009
11:39 pm

ABW–the Unmentionable is a die-hard Braves fan who’d put Dusty to shame! He chops! He really got bent out of shape (a rarity for him) when folks started in on the “name change” for mascots–”h*ll, now they want to take the one place we get some respect away from us!”

RW-(the original)

August 27th, 2009
11:40 pm

You can imagine what the Unmentionable and I had to do to make certain that our little Indians grew up secure in who they are and where they came from, aware of the prejudices and stereotypes and knowing that just because they had to challenge them at every turn, they would come through it the stronger.

josef,

Not trying to equate things in terms of groupings etc that you and ABM are discussing but your comment zapped me like a taser. I raised my two children as a single father. In the third grade my daughter was told in no uncertain terms that she would flunk the assignment if she refused to make a Mother’s Day card. Being the calculating sort she decided to comply. I received the most beautiful Happy Mother’s Day Dad card anyone could imagine and she got by that one.

Angry Black Man

August 27th, 2009
11:46 pm

Josef

I go back to when Fulton Co had the plexiglass fence in the outfield. He’s probably older than I am and can go further back. I endured the 80’s and the powder blue pull-over uniforms too. My late grandfather would not miss a game if it was on tv. Got to take him to Fulton Co once. He said it was too noisy for him. I think he missed hearing Skip, Pete, and Ernie too. The ABD even has a foam tomahawk.

RW

Sounds like you have a smart little angel. All it takes is good parenting. Something that is sorely needed today.

josef nix

August 27th, 2009
11:53 pm

RW–not to worry! Another country heard from! Folks right and left go carping about men who “don’t take responsibility” and then when they do, make their lives as difficult as possible. It never ceases to amaze me at how little people know what goes into being a single dad. It’s as if they are from another planet. On the cards, every year at Mother’s Day the Unmentionable and I still get cards from ours, with the “o” in Happy Mother’s Day x’d out and a “u” inked in!

TnGelding

August 27th, 2009
11:53 pm

wet wiccan

August 27th, 2009
10:50 pm

That was my point, too.

josef nix

August 27th, 2009
11:56 pm

ABW–got one for you, the Unmentionable is also a big golf fan and a big Tiger Woods fan, “he’s Cherokee, you know!” :-)

RW-(the original)

August 27th, 2009
11:56 pm

Sounds like you have a smart little angel.

ABM,

Thanks and I wondered myself about that for a few years, but she’s going on 30 now and it all turned out for the best.

Angry Black Man

August 27th, 2009
11:57 pm

Later all, the sandman cometh. And the ABD wakes up at 6:30 like clockwork and just enjoys her mornings with her daddy.

TnGelding

August 28th, 2009
12:04 am

Angry Black Man

August 27th, 2009
10:51 pm

I was going to ask if you were Jimmy the Greek reincarnated, but I see y’all already discussed him in a different context.

josef nix

August 28th, 2009
12:04 am

RW–the Unmentionable and I look at ours, grown now with children of their own, and smile knowing that we must have done something right.

josef nix

August 28th, 2009
12:05 am

Well, folks, I’ve truly enjoyed it, but it’s time for the land of counterpane in these parts, too…

electrician

August 28th, 2009
1:25 am

angry black man @10:51 jimmy the greek got fired for sayin that,the black men i have worked with for over 20 years are soft and pudgy, just like me…glory days will pass you by..bruce springsteen

electrician

August 28th, 2009
1:44 am

josef…counterpane?

TnGelding

August 28th, 2009
5:55 am

Refresh, please.

josef nix

August 28th, 2009
6:30 am

electrician–it’s from a poem my mother used to recite to us. She was a big fan of Robet Louis Stevenson. I recited it to my own kids and was pleased recently to hear Litt Bit reciting it to her little ones…

The Land of Counterpane
by Robert Louis Stevenson

When I was sick and lay a-bed,
I had two pillows at my head,
And all my toys beside me lay,
To keep me happy all the day.

And sometimes for an hour or so
I watched my leaden soldiers go,
With different uniforms and drills,
Among the bed-clothes, through the hills;

And sometimes sent my ships in fleets
All up and down among the sheets;
Or brought my trees and houses out,
And planted cities all about.

I was the giant great and still
That sits upon the pillow-hill,
And sees before him, dale and plain,
The pleasant land of counterpane.

Finn McCool

August 28th, 2009
6:31 am

Kayaker brought up book sales last night as a factor in how popular a writer is. I’d like to help permanently bust that bubble right now. I spent 6 years in the book industry and I know some of Barnes & Nobles book buyers in New York.

Book sales are determined by the number of intermediaries who buy the book – mostly book stores. The New York Times bestseller list has nothing to do with the number of “people” who actually buy the book and the much smaller number of people who actually “read” the book.

Many times these bookstore buyers get it wrong and that’s why you see the huge “Remainder” bins and “Bargain Book” sections at the book stores. They need to dump the stock.

Now you have to couple this information with the fact that Murdoch and the other right wing multi-millionaires buy up big chunks of these books to either give away or sell to subscribers at really low prices.

josef nix

August 28th, 2009
6:34 am

Okay, folks, now remember…be nice. It’s Friday and Jay’s had a rough week of it on playground duty… :-)

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator :-) You Whine :-(

August 28th, 2009
6:41 am

In metro Atlanta, an estimated 288,561 people are officially unemployed — up 60 percent in the past year. Not counted in that group is anyone who is working part-time, gone back to school or who has simply give up looking for a job.-Urinal

And to think, they pay more taxes than the people of North Fulton do.

Or at least according to some libs around here, they do.

mike

August 28th, 2009
6:41 am

Of course, Jay can’t post an article without taking a dig at a conservative.

Jay, don’t you understand that Beck’s mindless partisanship is matched by your own?

I Report/ Vast White Wing Conspirator :-) You Whine :-(

August 28th, 2009
6:50 am

It cannot be that Obama is inept, or that citizens have examined and rejected as unworkable the legislation Democrats have proposed. Rather, the liberal believes, there must be some right-wing bogeyman to blame. -AmSpec

People that can think and reason? Why how absurd!

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2009
6:50 am

“if the House legislation becomes law and you lose your job, will you be able to purchase a private health insurance policy without violating the law?”

What does the law matter? If I lose my job I won’t be able to buy life insurance, period. Becuase I won’t be able to afford it. I couldn’t afford it the last time I lost my job, why should a hypothetical (I hope) future loss be any different?