Ted Kennedy, in the end the biggest Kennedy of them all

Ted Kennedy, in the end the biggest Kennedy of them all

Yeah, what did he weigh, about 400lbs?

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RIP TAX AND SPEND LIBERAL.

WHY DID THIS HYPOCRITE DO TIME FOR KILLING THAT BROAD AT CHAPOKIDIK?

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And when I was a kid, my dad was stationed for several years at an Air Force base on Cape Cod, not far from the Kennedy compound in Hyannisport. Whenever a dark-windowed limousine was spotted traveling on Route 3, the only highway from Boston onto the Cape, someone would inevitably nod and say, “Must be a Kennedy.”

Aahhh, yes, a limousine liberal, a fitting remembrance indeed.

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RIP Ted Kennedy – you served your state and your country well.

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RIP, Ted.

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“and only his family’s wealth and connections saved him from prison.”

Which is absolutely pathetic.

“you served your state and your country well.”

And was a murderer who should have done life.

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Nothing is gained by criticizing someone who is dead.
Likewise the tendency to make the dead heroic gains nothing.
I have had my moment of silence for the Senator and moved on.

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we will miss your leadership Ted

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Well, by this time I reckon this Ted Kennedy is walking around in the Next Life blind as a bat after this Mary Jo person met him and clawed out his eyeballs for leaving her in that car to drown while he swum off. Then Satan will show up to get him on account of all the librul things he done and trying to kill off thousands of Grandmas with his health care bill.

Anyhow, when I was young I use to like the Kennedys. That was before I found out they were a bunch of Integrationists that wanted to ruin our good Southren way of life. Most of us turned Republican after the Kennedys and this Lyndon Johnson sent troops down here and made our kids go to school with Those People and made us eat in the same places as them. So because of that most good Southreners are Republican and we’ll be Republican till somebody like old Zell takes over the Democrat party and makes it act like it’s got some sense.

Anyhow, I don’t wish no harm on nobody but I sure hope it’s toasty where Ted Kennedy is right now. And that probly goes for my Conservative friends like the Whiner and George American and others.

Have a good day everybody.

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I loved Ted Kennedy. Was he perfect? No. Who is? Was he an excellent senator and a great American? Damn straight he was! Ted Kennedy will be greatly missed. The country is a better place because of him. To all you “compassionate conservatives”, thank you for your “kind” words….they’re a badge of honor.

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“The country is a better place because of him”

I doubt the relatives of the girl he killed thinks that!

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Night Train

Are you perfct?

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Not necessarily glad he is dead but glad he is gone.

I salute you Teddy…may the fountain of eternal firewater wash clean the bloodstained hands that killed Mary Jo.

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I swear I live among some of the most ignorant and hateful people I have ever seen.
How low class can you get than to talk trash about a man that just died. Shame on you.

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Nicely written, Jay.

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Peadawg –

“But If someone committed murder, they should rot in prison. I can’t believe people are talking about him like he was a great guy”

the fact is, there wasn’t enough evidence to convict him. period.

after that, he dedicated his life to public service when he could have lived a frivolous life. THAT is what we are recognizing.

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Jay,

My grandmother was born Catholic in Kilkenny. Went thru Ellis Island at age 19, and lived her entire life in Boston. My father grew up in Boston and always criticized the Kennedy’s, primarily the patriarch who made lots of money on illegal booze.

That said, it would seem that Ted Kennedy worked hard to atone for his mistakes as well as those of his family. We can only wonder what could have happened if only Robert had lived!

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mugglemikki – we call it like we see it. It’s a fact that he murdered Mary Jo. His name is what saved him. Same thing at Harvard, when he was caught CHEATING. The only reason he got back in was because of his name. He was a lying, cheating, alcholic, obese, slob.

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As all you know Saxby and Teddy were VERY close. Saxby worked with Teddy on immigration, TARP, the F22, and the over ride of Bush’s veto of the Farm Bill. Saxby is so upset that he will only play 18 holes of golf today. Here is Saxby & Teddy announcing the immigration bill.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK5TprmkgRw&feature=related

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G’morning, N-GA

I was hoping someone would bring up the atonement/redemption angle. I was interested to see how those on the religious right who revile him would consider the concept.

If Robert had lived? More momentous and far-reaching impact than if John had lived. Amazing how one evil sicko with a gun can affect history, isn’t it?

Night Train: “The son of a drug runner” Scotch. They ran scotch. I know, alcohol’s a drug, but if you use ‘drug’ most people are going to think of heroin and crack and such.

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“How low class can you get than to talk trash about a man that just died.”

Can’t expect trash to behave any other way, trash is as trash does (or says)

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So he walks up to St. Peter…

“I am the liberal Lion of the Senate, you must let me in.”

“Let my review your words and deeds.” replies St. Peter. “Murderer, serial adulterer, drunkard, militant pro-abortion advocate, slanderer of men Robert Bork in particular, pumpous ass. Hmmm. Why don’t I just stop right there. See that elevator over there, it will take you to where you are going.”

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As a leader, Ted Kennedy could be regarded as the Michael Vick of the Senate. The Chappaquiddick incident will always stain his legacy. Because of that, I have always regarded him as a bum. I wonder what he’s saying to Mary Jo Kopeckne right now.

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Let he without sin cast the first stone.

All of these repubs who scream God & Country are showing their true colors today. A man has died and you all cannot hold back from your childish comments. Wonder what will be said when your family is on the front row of a church looking at you laid out in a casket. Judging by the comments, none of you can play the family values card any longer. Show a little respect.

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I’m not rich and I am a confessed leftie.

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Peadawg –

“Why don’t y’all just go praise Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer.”

why, I do believe you just won the tiara for Drama Queen statement du jour …

congratulations …

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Nice to see one of the Kennedy boys live past middle age and not having a wingnut shoot him.

Amazing that one of the slobbering gun-loving birther types didn’t go after a brilliant progressive icon like Ted.

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If Robert had lived? More momentous and far-reaching impact than if John had lived. Amazing how one evil sicko with a gun can affect history, isn’t it?

It works both ways. Had the evil sicko (sickos for you conspiracy nuts out there) not killed John then Vietnam could well have been blamed on his incompetence and we may have been done with the Kennedys. So from either perspective the gunman screwed things up.

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Kayaker71-

Strom Thurmond is indeed gone.

Carry on.

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I just saw Teddy a few minutes ago. He offered to buy me a drink.

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thank you God. I only regret he was did not Othuga with him

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While we didn’t see eye-to-eye on many political issues through the years, I always respected his steadfast public service – so much so, in fact, that I invited him to my library in 2003 to receive the Bush Award for Excellence in Public Service.

I’m welcome. Now, thank me very much while I go skydiving while strapped to that strong handsome young buck. I think I’ll adopt him and make him president. Why couldn’t my boys have grown up to be like him.

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“why don’t you ask Judge Bork what he thinks about that?”

you mean the Judge Bork that went on to write books advocating government censorship??? that Judge Bork???

talk about a career that ended just in time.

Paul –

“Such laws allow the families to shield large portions of their wealth from the taxes ‘ordinary folks’ are subject to”

yep. you’re right. and what party would those people belong to, again???

Numbnuts –

“Isn’t your shift almost up so you can announce to all that you are leaving for the day?”

while this may come as some surprise to you, not everyone works shifts. nice try at snark, though. too bad about the fail.

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RW-(the original)

I’m dredging this up from the far recesses of my mind, way back before the Internet attempted to index everything ever written. I was doing some research on America’s slide into the Vietnam morass. I do remember reading from one of his advisors, could have been Bundy, that Kennedy had just begun questioning whether to continue the escalation of advisors (he’d just signed off on sending in a few more) and if it wouldn’t be better to just drop the whole thing. Caused quite a brouhaha amongst the military advisors and a few of the more hawkish elements. Dallas happened shortly thereafter, so it’s another case in which we’ll never know.

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“Durable goods orders increase by most in 2 year”

WASHINGTON (AP) – Orders for durable goods rose last month by the largest amount in two years, fresh evidence that manufacturing is rebounding from the recession. The Commerce Department says orders for goods expected to last at least three years increased 4.9 percent in July, the third rise in the past four months. Analysts expected a 3 percent increase. Orders for June were revised up to a 1.3 percent drop, from a 2.2 percent decline.

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buzzard, you’ve done your town of buford proud. may your meth habit continue and hope your insurance doesn’t run out so your wife (i mean sister) can keep churning out all dem babies for cheap……dawg. i’m out…PEACE!

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Lovely Liz…..true libs want to help the downtrodden and those in need. However they always want to do it with someone else’s money instead of their own.

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Did Andy write this piece?

Geez Jay.

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Paul,

Your 9:09 is timely. It also reminds me that the first “advisors” sent to South Viet Nam arrived during the Eisenhower administration. The first American casualty is officially recorded as Air Force T-Sgt. Richard B. Fitzgibbon Jr. He is listed by the U.S. Department of Defense as having a casualty date of June 8, 1956.

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Truth Hurts,

Well said.

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Seems like you people only adhere to your Christian values on Sundays. What happened to someone repenting for their sins. You all think he hasn’t lived with that for his entire life? Attempted to do what he could to make amends for it. Who are any of you to judge a man. You all were probably weeping for and praising Strom Thurmond when he died. What goes around, comes around. Each of you will have to meet your maker and explain your actions.

R.I.P Ted Kennedy

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Yes his cowardice was responsible for a death. And it took him too long to grow up and accept responsibility for his actions. But he ultimately did and we are all better for his contributions. He didn’t have to work a day in his life but he spent 50 years trying to help less privileged and less fortunate. He was a loving surrogate parent and grandparent to a multitude of children, with one glaring mistake. He did penance on earth in front of the entire world and faced the criticism and loss of things he wanted to be. Not a mention of him ever excluded his misdeeds and sins. It’s okay to forgive other politicians, athletes, and actors, even when they lie, don’t confess or do anything to atone or contribute. But this man can’t be forgiven even in death. I have never been a Kennedy fanatic but respected and appreciated this man who kept going and kept contributing. With him truly gone from the senate we little people have lost our champion. Go read his senatorial record, the big and small items, and then see if he deserves forgiveness and appreciation in death.

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“RIP Senator.
The fact that the wingnuts hate you so much reflects well on you.”

The fact that liberals love him like he was some great guy says a lot about y’all too.

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Instead of the back and forth, why not take time to reflect on what good he did for the country. ????Well, I guess we can start the back & forth unless you defenders can tell us what he did. The immigration reform bills did not do much good. He was a defender of bussing but I cannot see how anyone could defend that waste of an idea. He voted just about every year for a budget that was not balanced.

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Paul,

When Obama first articulated that he wanted a Heath Bill passed by August, I remarked to my wife that he was setting that deadline because of Ted Kennedy.

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Oh the irony that President ObamaGod and his family are “vacationing” on the tax payer’s dime in Martha’s Vineyard.

And you Liberals that are crying that Republican’s are not showing “respect” to the dead are hillarious! I distinctly recall you trashing Ronald Reagan on the AJC blogs when he died.

The Kennedy family, like many other rich liberal politicians have you fooled. It’s easy to be a socialist if your a rich politician or Hollywood elite – no skin off their back. They (liberal politicians) have done nothing for you besides getting you to worship and vote for them. Their empty promises have done nothing for you but you are too blind to see.

And yes, Ted Kennedy killed someone and never paid the price for his mistake! How hypocritical for you compassionate Liberals to forget that fact.

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RIP Sen. Kennedy.

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Whenever a dark-windowed limousine was spotted traveling on Route 3, the only highway from Boston onto the Cape, someone would inevitably nod and say, “Must be a Kennedy.”

Did it have those fancy inflatable airbags on the outside, and a propeller just beside the rear plates?

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way-hey!! I made it!!! I have a name thief. I’m somebody now!!

(eat my dust Mrs. Godzilla!!)

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lovelyliz

August 26th, 2009
9:04 am
How many liberals do you know who serve in the military? I bet that is none or closer to one.

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disgusted

August 26th, 2009
9:24 am
Amen!

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middler and so tired of all the rhetoric :
August 26th, 2009
9:16 am

Teddy never took responsibility for his actions – never. Teddy never asked for forgiveness, or, I believe, at least, I would have remember the news conference in which he said, “I was responsible for her death and will accept all consequences. Please forgive me.” As such, he deserves no forgiveness, his inherent evil is separate from his good deeds and different only from the evil of Hitler or Manson by an order or magnitude.

One has to be amazed at the liberals who want Vick banned from the NFL because he, allegedly, electrocuted a pitbull or two, but praise the virtue of Kennedy.

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William, I know of at least one…Me

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Ah yes, the wingnuts are showing their lack of education again. Ted did not commit murder. Maybe manslaughter. Murder is premeditated.

But hey, Bush caused over 4000 deaths. So STFU.

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William

and Bugs Bunny has a saying too

“What a maroon”

So ?

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So now I’m a “hater” for not respecting a guy that didn’t take responsibility for killing another human? LOL!

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He was just another flawed individual that failed the true tests of greatness. Being the youngest he probably was spoiled beyond redemption by a less than perfect family. But then, they were just human beings, not gods.

Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton might have a disagreement with you about the lives of ex-presidents, Jay.

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peadawg – oh, and no alcohol tests were performed on her, either.

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Did Laura Bush take responsibility for her actions and did she do any jail time? I’m guessing that happened before I was born or when I was young…I didn’t know she did that.

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Stop it Teddy!! I am a respectable woman! Stop putting your hands there!!!

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What a glorious morning in Georgia!

And for the vile, hate-filled “Christians” and execrable little American Nazis of the far right wing – including the White Welcher, George Aryan, Butt Wiper, Fecal Fergie and their host of nameless and cowardly trolls – a wonderful thing has happened.

An American man they despise is now gone, so they rejoice.

Pathetic? I think so. Christian? You betcha! It’s God’s will that he died and that they party!

But it speaks volumes about THEM, their enraged impotence and their miserable psychopathic and misanthropic lives and very little about Kennedy. Or anyone else.

Granted this good news is NOT as wonderful as Jim Adkisson killing liberals in a Tennessee church, or the “heroic” Timothy McVeigh showing those enemies in the American government what he was made of, but it’s not bad for a Wednesday morning, is it cons?

Your vomitous and ever growing need to hate can now be proudly unleashed for a day or so as your convulsions are coalesced and misdirected at this one single individual.

But we more reasoned and reasonable see that he is merely an archetype for the innumerable people in this country that you MUST hate. Including everyone who does not believe as you and everything you cannot understand.

But your deep emotional malignancy and unabashed evil natures will not be healed by this.

There is no redemption for you and your self-destructive loathing will only grow.

Tomorrow you will be even more irrationally hateful and hopefully for you someday you will again quietly celebrate when the next right-wing scumbag kills Innocent people again…

But I do not pity you little emasculated thug. But I also am not foolish enough to deny it when I see evil.

As you mock your own god…

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nrb@9:26….Thats is a truly pathetic statement.

No wonder the right wing southern conservative is going the way of the dinosaur, society has passed you mongrels by

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Downstairs, USinUK observed:

and i’m sure mike will be in here later, clutching his pearls and swooning onto his fainting couch over all the people who are so coarse in their discourse at TK’s passing.

Patience. He’s got to find the right outfit for such a landing.

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Granted this good news is NOT as wonderful as Jim Adkisson killing liberals in a Tennessee church, or the “heroic” Timothy McVeigh showing those enemies in the American government what he was made of, but it’s not bad for a Wednesday morning, is it cons?

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Yeah it would have been better if it happened 40 years ago, but better late than never. You crippled moron.

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Amvet speaks for more of us than you know. The hate and venom being spewed by morons claiming to be christians is disgusting.

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N-GA 9:21

You nailed that one, didn’t you? Perhaps if he’d have been in better health to, as Jay wrote, exert some behind the scenes influence. But that’s something else we’ll never know.

Your 9:27: I thought this might happen. It has. I’m off to the gym.

Later –

Oh, your 9:33: I believe the proper response is , “But, but…. that’s different!”

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AmVet – Pot calling the kettle black???

You? You lecturing everyone else on morality? HA!!!

Way to go sporto.

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Amvet speaks for more of us than you know. The hate and venom being spewed by morons claiming to be christians is disgusting.
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I’m not a christian, and I did cartwheels this morning when I read the good news….just like Obama did on 9/11

Not all conservatives are Jesus freaks, you know.

But of course, Ted was such a hero to the liberals: a drunk that murdered an innocent girl. How fitting. How typical.

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Amvet speaks for more of us than you know. The hate and venom being spewed by morons claiming to be christians is disgusting.

You wouldn’t know what Christianity was even if you fell over it, heathen.

Go worship your idols, steal your way through life and stfu.

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William

liberals who served?

my dad, my 9 uncles,7 cousins, my 2 grand dads and 1 grandmom…..

Joe Kennedy, Jack Kennedy, John Kerry, Al Gore, Jim Webb, Jimmy Carter

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What does the hate have to do with Christianity?

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Absolutely could not stand the man. Disagreed with his “principles” almost 100%. But I will not rip on him now that he has passed. He was passionate toward his ideals.

Interesting how the dems slipped in the provision to not allow Mitt Romney to appoint Kerry’s replacement had he won the presidential election. Now they wish that wasn’t the law as it will take months to replace TK. eh, what goes around, comes around. Hopefully, it will be enough to delay that govt option of healthcare beyond hope of passing. That option would be financial ruin for us.

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Did she let someone drown while leaving the scene all the while worrying about her political future? If so then I would her in the same contempt. That being said, I didn’t want to dive into this because I didn’t want to speak ill of the dead. But Laura Bush’s accident is not comparable to Chappaquiddick.

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You wouldn’t know what Christianity was even if you fell over it, heathen.

Go worship your idols, steal your way through life and stfu.

Truly, a Christian attitude…you are even more laughable than NRB, and that’s saying something…You’d better read your Bible again, and repeat until it sinks in…just sayin’

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Whiner, while I am a Christian, I don’t turn the other cheek quite like I should. You are stupid worthless human who spends his entire day, every day, spewing hate and nonsense. And I’d love to meet you behind the woodshed to do what your daddy should have done years ago. I’m thinking you’re a coward, as well as a loser.

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Comparing Laura Bush to Ted Kennedy is like comparing Shirley Temples to Kamikazes.

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Normal (8:56):
You compare a 49 year year old female from Alaska, who’s parents were teachers to a 77 year old man from a wealthy New England family who’s brother was President and who himself was a Senator for 47 years; and you determine that the woman comes up short.

You are the one who comes up short in that comparision.

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So long, Teddy. You were a bully that never had a real job.

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“You wouldn’t know what Christianity was even if you fell over it, heathen”

hrm. how did that quote from Jesus go again??? “fudge not lest ye be made of fudge” … no, that doesn’t sound right … “drudge not lest ye be forced to read crappy internet news” … no, that can’t be it … grudge not … budge not …

gimme a minute, I’m sure it’ll come to me …

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Burn in hell you dirt basterd.

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Good Lord, such hate this morning – let it flow wingnuts – get it all out.

My brother-in-law was killed in a car wreck by one of his friends. Last I heard his friend was still in a mental institution because of it. Believe me haters, Ted Kennedy paid for his sins.

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Peadawg,

Seriously – you have absolutely no right to judge anyone this morning.

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Someone anonymously posting on a blog, calling someone else a coward. Now that’s rich.

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Edward Kennedy. B.I.H.M.F.

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Peadawg

August 26th, 2009
9:35 am

It was an accident for goodness sakes! Who’s to say he didn’t valiantly try to save her?

“As told later by Kennedy these events ensued:”

Kennedy made a wrong turn to go to the Ferry, a sharp right, proceeding on paved main road.

The car went several hundred feet down Dike Road, toward the beach. Kennedy lost control at a narrow bridge, the car jumped the timber curb, plunged into the Poucha Pond, rotated and turned upside down, and angled into shallow waters with its lights on.

Kennedy testified he escaped and dove multiple times to retrieve Ms. Kopechne to no avail.

He stated he returned to the cottage and summoned his cousin, lawyer Joe Gargin and a friend to assist to get Kopechne out of the car, They dove for over 45 minutes and were unsuccessful.

Gargin told Kennedy they must report the accident. Kennedy said he would do it at Edgartown when he returned to the hotel. Overcome by panic, fear, confusion he swam across the tidal channel, returning to his hotel room at the Shiretown Inn at 2 AM.

In the morning, he ferried back to Chappaquiddick, and only then did he report the accident.

Read more:

http://americanhistory.suite101.com/article.cfm/senator_edward_ted_kennedy_and_chappaquiddick#ixzz0PISkAiMA

As for Laura Bush, a lot of people are in jail for vehicular homicide.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/laura.asp

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“sent our troops into Iraq in search of a mythical Gog and got more of our people killed along with tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis.”

Just like Obama is continuing to do in Iraq and Afghanistan, right?

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A google search of “Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend” returns 127,000 results while a similar search using Kennedy returns 9.

Well, maybe that’s because Kennedy did not murder Laura Bush’s boyfriend. DUH!

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Bookman you have gone off the deep end Ted should have been in jail. He should never have been in office. You do even have the guts to type out her name. It’s Mary Jo Kopechne. This is outrageous for you to act as if the incidence with was a minor blip. Your bias and the bias of the AJC is glaring on this one. Ted was a coward and got his butt covered because he was a KENNEDY. You know one of those – THE RICH AND PRIVILEGED. Bookman you are so two faced. The AJC wonders why they are losing readers it this kind of garbage.

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Just like Obama is continuing to do in Iraq and Afghanistan, right?

Provide the reference material and then we can talk about the “right”.

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OMG. Kerry is the senior senator now.

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A man and a family of ultra wealth who looked out for the average joes and those with less. That doesn’t come around all that often:

The Family Leave Act – Teddy
Americans with Disabilities Act – Teddy
Civil Rights – Bobby played a big role in this

We could go on and on but Teddy left a good imprint in our history.

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Midori
August 26th, 2009
9:57 am

Laura Bush was not a Bush in 1963, she was a normal Midland teenage from a normal midland family. The locals saw this as the tragedy it was – a teen driver ran a stop sign, nothins more or nothing less – and handled it in accordance with the mores of the day and place.

It takes supreme mental illness and a truly addled brain to view this as anything other than the local authorities reacting normally to an all too common tragedy. It boggle the sensible mind that one, no matter how addled, might try to rationalize a 17 year-old running a stop sign on a country road to a grown man leaving a women to drown in a car and not reporting the accident for a day.

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Yes, RW @ 9.47, the stupid “Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend” meme is certainly out there. Not denying that.

But you know full well that yours wasn’t an apples:apples comparison. Come on. Nine hits?

I’m going to rig a search result, I’ll just note that googling “ted kennedy mary jo kopechne murder” got me, per google, “about 83,500,000″

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Hey Libs, what would your “christianly” words be if it was announced that Dick Cheney had just died?

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Let’s see, will I suffer from his passing? NO. I cannot think of one thing he did that has benefited me in the least. I guess the Kopechne family, if any are still around, may feel some sense of vindication. Hail him as a hero? Absolutely not! My dad was a hero…served his country in WWII, was faithful to my mother for 66 years, and provided the best he could for someone who barely finished high school in the depression era. That’s a HERO!

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Well, there goes their 60 vote margin in the Senate – Yea!!!

All kidding aside, the death of anyone is sad, that family has had their share and then some of tragedy. All the sons of the bootlegging father have made their impression on America.

What a country.

Now, back to the right wing rant -

Who will the liberals worship now that they only have Obama and the big money behind him?

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Praise the Lord Mrs. Godzilla!

Halleluia!! How Holy Are THEE!

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Okay, let me see if I follow this. Mary Jo Kopechne’s death shouldn’t matter because decades later many people would die in two wars in which George Bush was CIC. Okay that makes a lot of sense. Maybe the Kopechne family can take solace in that. How absurd?

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And for the nitpickers out there let me revise my 10:09 to say 12 hours.

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Duhzilla- I tried the gentle approach right before a liberal through his feces at me.

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RW –

MJK wasn’t his girlfriend. and that is SUCH a bogus search, it isn’t even funny.

Independent thinker –

“My dad was a hero…served his country in WWII, was faithful to my mother for 66 years, and provided the best he could for someone who barely finished high school in the depression era. That’s a HERO!”

SA-LUTE!! your dad sounds like he was a good man

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doggone – “I think we should all be grateful that Jay provides this forum for all the haters to vent their vitriol. I shudder to think how they would get rid of it if they couldn’t do it here.”

a’splode?

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No Libs want to talk about what they would say if we found out that Dick Cheney or George W. died today?

Come on!

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MJK wasn’t his girlfriend.

Nor was Michael Douglas Laura Welch’s boyfriend and they weren’t even in the same car.

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Just think Obama will be remembered just like Ted Kennedy! A socialist liar who puts himself and the liberal party before America!

Those who keep saying conservatives are going away must be blogging all day and not watching/reading the news. The democrats are splitting because the American people have dissented against socialist rule. Looks like you are going to lose your seats sooner than I thought

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ty,

Who said/wrote Kopechne’s death shouldn’t matter?

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Peadawg – do you think they would even say RIP? I doubt it.

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Who cares now a days about MJK?

Here was a rich white guy – you know, a capitalist of the first order.

The liberal leanings were just to try an ease the guilt of being rich – poor guy.

I just wonder if the probe to find all the off shore/Swiss secret bank accounts will find any Kennedy money – anyone want to bet?

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Then there was Obama’s off prompter message where he said….. We mourn the passing of Senator uh uh uh (looks at his note card) uh Edward Kennedy.

/I’m not even joking

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… in the meantime … a little good news …

Aug. 26 (Bloomberg) — Purchases of new homes in the U.S. jumped more than forecast in July, adding to signs that the economy is rebounding from the worst recession since the 1930s.

Sales increased 9.6 percent, the most since February 2005, to a 433,000 annual pace, figures from the Commerce Department showed today in Washington. The number of houses on the market dropped to the lowest level in 16 years.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&sid=a1_oJT6RLu6k

(go! go! go! reduce that inventory!!)

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Jay had to make a crack about the poor man’s weight. The “largest” Kennedy.

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Taxpayer – that’s quite convenient, isn’t it?

Double standards are a way of life for you idiots.

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The Kennedy’s were and are all about national service.

Thank you Ted.

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Mr. Kennedy – The career politician and a good reason for term limits for all politicians at all levels. Now to the eternal scheme – he now faces God, just like we all will. Please note that I did not attempt to say what the “conversation” is or has been or will be.

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In RW’s defense, Taxpayer, it’s hard to type if you have paws.

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Not in parenthesis you didn’t and without them it’s over 90 million now

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Midori,

I hate to burst your liberal narrow view of him.

He was all about making sure his family was treated like royalty and avoiding the law.

Amazing how Americas Royalty is always a liberal rich guy.

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I write a very short piece wishing that Kennedy RIP. So it is up for MODERATION. It was already MODERATE. And after all the stuff I’ve been reading here. Well what should I say? What??

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Am Vet, Rare form today…Bravo!

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To AmVet,

You are rambling. If someone disagrees with you, you automatically call it hate. It’s called a different opinion.

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Well, I have tried TWICE to post a short moderate piece and it has been dumped twice. Now what?

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Midori!

Paws!!! Good one. You have to admit it RW.

Dusty has good manners.

Anywho…..how many of us “liberals” were celebrating Robert Novak’s death a few days ago?

Celebrating the death of a man is quite low class…….carry on haters.

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Amazing how Americas Royalty is always a liberal rich guy

interesting point … but who are the “royal” families?? the kennedy clan is a given. but who else? the bush clan – rich, yes … liberal? eeeehhhhh, not so much.

but who else would be considered royalty? for me, the only names I can think of go back to the gilded age – the carnegies, mellons, astors, vanderbilts, flaglers, morgans … rich, yes, but I don’t think they were necessarily liberal, unless you want to define “liberal” as the legacy they left behind (universities, libraries, etc)

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AmwayVet – Yeah, under the bed. Ummm yeah, sure…..

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It’s supposed to be poor manners to speak ill of the dead. On the other hand, I was always taught that if you don’t have anything good to say, don’t say anything.

I have nothing good to say about Ted Kennedy. I’m not celebrating his death, and I hope he repented.

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Mark,

that was beautiful.

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I had to write a letter to Saxby Chambliss for something work related – I need a shower.

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So Mary Jo has now been beating the crap out of fat Teddy for about 9 hours now.

I wonder if it hurts as much in the afterlife to have your eyes scratched out.

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Mrs. G – How about leaving us with “Thou shalt not kill!” There is nothing honorable or decent in speaking kindly of a murdering piece of scum just because he has died. In fact, much like Teddy himself, it reeks of hypocrisy. When Kennedy was running for POTUS, Winship, the long-time editor of the Boston Globe said he knew a professor at Harvard who had all three brothers as students and observed that not only did Teddy share the family flaw of cowardice, but that he was also far and away the dumbest of the three. His entire life was one big fraud, spinning crap for the ignorant masses to gobble up while he accumulated power and riches, drinking and womanizing his way through life. He was no daisy, no daisy at all.

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A quote from Ted Kennedy (source: Esquire: The Meaning of Life; p. 112; interviewed by Cal Fussman):

“Having a child with cancer reaches to the very depths of your soul. Particularly sincethere is so little you can do, yet certainly more that you can do now than when Teddy had it. We were fortunate to have access to good health care. Secondly, fortunate to have health insurance. Many of the parents I met at the hospital had children who were taking a similar treatment. That treatment was to last for two years. Some parents sold their houses to pay for it. Some could only afford twelve or fourteen months of the treatment. They were asking the doctors: ‘What percent does that reduce my child’s chances of being able to survive?’ So you ask me why I’m for health care. I didn’t need a reason before, but that’s a reason I’ll never forget.”

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Goodbye Edward Moron Kennedy.

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Bosch

August 26th, 2009
10:46 am
I had to write a letter to Saxby Chambliss for something work related – I need a shower

You did not have to make contact with that worthless compassionate conservative family valued Republican scum, did you. Perhaps, some melted sugar applied directly to the point of contact will help.

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I don’t care how drunk you get me Teddy, we aren’t having intimate relations. I am a respectable girl! Get your hands out of my DRESS!

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Or are you messing with me now?

DING DING DING!

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Enter your comments here
I am, as reported once or twice previously, a retired military historian. Therefore; rather conservative as all might guess; not a particular “fan” of Senator Kennedy. However; also being a US Army veteran(along with AmVet, Normal & I don’t know how many others on thsi blog); the level of vitriol herein is appalling. Whether conservative/liberal; red state/blue state; Dem/Repub; this is all quite unnecessary. As a veteran; I can only hope that a LARGE # of the contributors herein are not at all representative of the majority of good citizens in this great land.
Dusty & Bosch: Kudos for your classy, refined commentary today.

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Hey, Bosch; you said “I need a shower” – are you admitting to being one of the great unwashed? Hahahahahahaha!

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Did you know they’re giving out free pizza to Camaro owners today? Just sayin’…………….

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I think it’s fitting that Ted gets second billing to the founder of Papa John’s, for finding his old Camaro. That sums up Kennedy’s legacy right there.

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Teddy, if you continue to behave in such an immoral, stupid and indecent manner you life will be filled with nothing but alcoholic tragedy followed by alcoholic tragedy. Grow up Teddy.

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Normal;
Your response is that I am reaching.
Yeah, that would be normal for you.

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El Jefe you forgot to mention Richard Mellon Scaife, Rupert Murdoch, Sun Myung Moon and a host of other right wing nut jobs who have never done one thing constructive for the U.S.A.

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“Give me Mother Teresa and I’ll leave you your dead Kennedys.”

I’ll take Ted any day. Yes, Mother Theresa did help the destitute in India, but she did NOTHING to help them better their lot in life. I’ve always been ambivelent about that. What good does it do to be sure someone dies with dignity and gets buried, when you’ve done nothing to help the conditions of their life that made it hell on earth?

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Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

August 26th, 2009
10:03 am

Bushes don’t marry “normal” girls. She was society, and that probably worked to her advantage.

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This is my first visit to the slime pit–and my last. Deliver us all from these self-pitying, spiteful, self-righteous fools who think of themselves as good Americans (well, “think” is a word that does not belong in their lexicon).

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I can’t help it. Whenever I think of Teddy the picture that comes to mind is the one where he is appearing at that sham court, already pre-arranged to only be about leaving the scene of an accident, and that thing had the temerity to wear a cervical collar, months after the murder, just in case he needed a little more sympathy. His hypocrisy knew no bounds.

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I too will jump on the “Nice job, Dusty” bandwagon. You go girl. You and I have can and have vehemently disagreed, but I am pledged to doing so civilly.

Unlike the irrationally enraged and intellectually AWOL here who constantly attack personally and insult unprovokedly. And as evidenced by the plethora of minthropic rantings this morning, the list of these emboldened virtual personaes and sociopathic sophists is not short.

Gone off the Deep End, do tell me, how many monikers have you used in the past four weeks? Or four months?

Or is that classified information for the vacuous and assorted teenage mall rats only?

Remember the five rules of dodgeball, Goner: dodge, duck, dip, dive and dodge.

But it isn’t gonna help you much. Your vapidity is as obvious as a babboons hind end…

“Amazing how Americas Royalty is always a liberal rich guy.”

???????????

BEYOND myopic.

We just endured 12 out of the past 20 years of a family that arguably steered the USS Uncle Sam towards the rocks and the deranged and forgetful yutzes actually think and write that?

Cowboy-politician
Suckin’ up to the aristocracy
Not even sure if you like democracy
Tryin’ to establish an american royalty, a personal dynasty

From Day Job 1.0

And the neo-conned paroxysm continues…

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Things that make a person think WTF!!

English:
LUKE 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning falling from the heavens.

Aramaic (the most ancient form of Hebrew)

Baraq (baw-rak’) – A primitive root; to lighten (lightning – cast forth.
Baraq (baw-rawk;) Lightning; by analogy, a gleam; concretely, a flashing sword – bright, glitter (-ing sword), lightning.

English:
Isaiah 14:12-19 – (14:14) I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Aramaic:

Bamah (bam-maw’) From an unused root (meaning to be high); an elevation – height, high place, wave.

Waw or Vau is the 6th letter in the Hebrew alphabet. Translated into either “U” or “O”. WAW (U or O) is used as a conjunction to join concepts together. So to join the phrase “Lightning from Heaven or the Heights” we get Baraq “O” Bam-Maw or Baraq “U” Bam-Maw

Satan in Hebrew is Satan, a direct translation.

English:
LUKE 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning falling from the heavens.

If spoken by a Jewish Rabi today, in Hebrew, he would say these words “ And I saw Satan as Baraq O Bam-maw”

Did Jesus reveal to us the name of the AntiChrist?

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Jefe –

“Todays royalty – hmm, let me think – George Soros comes to mind, along with Al Gore. I know Al is a strech, but he insists that he is right and science be damned – kind of kingly.”

George Soros ??? I would bet that most people couldn’t pick him out in a crowd of 1. I mean, I know he’s the right’s favorite bugaboo, but “royalty” (in the same sense as the Kennedys) is a HUGE stretch

The Gores, I might give you – following in his dad’s footsteps and all.

The Clintons.

But Hollywood royalty is, again, something different than the Kennedys. I know that people like to endow Babs with power, but I think that “american royalty” is a stretch. Oprah is a powerhouse, definitely …

I guess, when I think if American royalty, I’m thinking about more than 1 person – something that extends outward to siblings and goes across generations.

The Johnsons … the Hersheys … heck, the Heinzes …

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Hell is for Haters

Do we really need to read the whole bible?

How about if we just remember how liberals treated anything conservative for the past 9 years?

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AmVet

August 26th, 2009
10:31 am
Are you writing an essay in college? English 101 maybe! Spewed on by the liberal philosphy found in the so called higher education forums.

To acknowledge something to be true but not following the doctrine to the letter does not make you a less believer of the doctrine.

Maybe Ted Kennedy had a death bed prayer and will be received in heaven.

I do not remember him as champion for my rights and beliefs.

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I think this blog could go for 40 days and nights!

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“Amazing how Americas Royalty is always a liberal rich guy.”

Kamchak helped clear up that issue yesterday. It was all part of the GOP/Luntz play on words ploy. They’re devious that way, those Republicans, dontcha know.

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El Jefe … Ignorance is bliss!!!!!

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With all due respect to the deceased, Teddy was a leftist wingnut who, if he did any good at all, did it with other peoples money instead of his own ill-gotten booty. I don’t think Mary Jo’s family are out buying flowers and handkerchiefs.

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Dear AmVet,

In reference to your considerate comment and pledge to civility, I shall try to do the same. (That’s going to be tough for both of us, isn’t it?) : roll :

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Taco Bell is giving out “Tacos For Yugos” – so far they just had to make one……………..

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dusty – delete the spaces on your smileys

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Ted Kennedy was a spoiled rich kid whose mischief ended up killing a girl one night, and only his family’s wealth and connections saved him from prison. Bookman wrote the truth and should have stopped with this one sentence.

Mary Jo is in a better place, but I am not sure the country is in a better place when the rich get off with murder because of their last name.

It was my first up-close look at the power of charisma. People came from all over the plant and all over town — secretaries, drivers, ad salesmen, even the gruff, cynical printers — they lined the walls of the newsroom in hopes of seeing a Kennedy, and they became giddy in his presence.

Is that not what the media is doing and has done when they peed all over themselves when PresBO was or is around. This is why the media cannot be trusted to be the impartial reporters of the news and instead spin the headlines so that it fits the left wing agenda. It is really revealing that Bookman actually admits this kind of adulation early in his career when meeting a drunk murderer with charm. No all that different from the philandering Clinton except that Kennedy was a murderer and Clinton only a lying adulterer. And PresBO, just a liar for now.

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The classic definition of Royalty is a direct line between specific humans and God.

That was actually George Bush. He was on a mission from God. He may still be for all I know.

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someone beloved the world over:

There have been many great moments in the life and career of Ricky Hatton, but few will match the day when The Greatest came to visit.

Muhammad Ali visited Hatton’s new gym in Hyde, Greater Manchester today and Ali brought the town to a virtual standstill.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/more_sport/boxing/article6810860.ece

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Will his biography be filed in the “friction” or “non-friction” section of the library?

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TOJ –

“I’m an ex-pat myself now. I’m waaaaay far south from Atlanta now. Seems I got out just in time.”

(all together now) HOW FAR SOUTH ARE YOU??? below the gnat line? are you where the word “fork” has 2 syllables??

“You don’t need to apologize for voting for Obama. We all do some really stupid things in our life”

I guess you haven’t seen the stock markets lately … you may want to check that out …

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Am Vet ,you are bringing it today,keep it turned up.

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Kennedy’s seat may remain empty for months

“A long-term vacancy could have effects far beyond Kennedy’s home state of Massachusetts, since his death deprives Democrats of the 60-vote “supermajority” with which they can theoretically force laws through the Senate despite Republican objections.

Under Massachusetts law, a special election must be held 145 to 160 days after a Senate seat becomes vacant. The winner of that election serves the remainder of a senator’s unexpired term.”
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/26/kennedy.replacement/index.html

AHH HAHAHAA!

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Dusty, thanks. And yes, perhaps tough, but aren’t most of the good thing in life?

“Are you writing an essay in college? English 101 maybe!”

No, I think I mastered that long ago.

“Spewed on by the liberal philosphy (sic) found in the so called higher education forums

William, do I gather that you lament you never got a Conservative Arts degree? Loathing liberals and academia is your choice. Remain uneducated, or worse, unenlightened. Its your call.

“To acknowledge something to be true but not following the doctrine to the letter does not make you a less believer of the doctrine.”

Now THAT sounds very much like a liberal philosophy to me!

And to that I say, amen, brother.

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well done, dusty!

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“Maybe you just have your terms mixed up. Bush was not a God. Just a saint.”

I just vomited in my mouth.

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“Bush was not a God. Just a saint.”

snort!

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Taxpayer,

How about some charted territory

http://www.palmettoscoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/maze.jpg

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thomas,

No not really – I don’t believe anyone has said that here. We’re just letting the wingnuts show their complete lack of decorum and class by celebrating the death of a man they disliked.

Carry on haters.

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Taxpayer,

“That was actually George Bush. He was on a mission from God” you are delusional.

Bush was not that conservative – imagine saying we can keep our country safe with iopen borders – geez.

BTW, I think only the liberals are that blissful these days.

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Exactly one year ago today, Kennedy delivered one last national address, making a surprise appearance at the Democratic National Convention. Despite his ailments, Kennedy’s voice still boomed: “There is a new wave of change all around us, and if we set our compass true, we will reach our destination — not merely victory for our party, but renewal for our nation. And this November, the torch will be passed again to a new generation of Americans. So with Barack Obama, and for you and for me, our country will be committed to his cause. The work begins anew. The hope rises again. And the dream lives on.”

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thomas,

Oh, something else – you seem like a more rational conservative that the wingnutty ones here – but if you’re gonna call Ms. Kopechne’s death “murder” – I might have to reconsider my thoughts of you (not that you care of course or it even matters).

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Paul,

Are you all buff yet?

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USinUK

Stock market is doing fine since the Congress stopped passing bills. Not up to Republican standards, but for Democrats, not bad. Now if we could just keep the Congress out of Washington long enough, it might really recover.

I am not in the US. I still have my place inside the perimeter, but just because I can’t sell it. I’m traveling between Panama and Costa Rica. The humidity has already ruined the HD camera I bought last year. I literally need to shoot with a water bag, It’s really incredible here, but I do miss the good old US of A. I’m shooting for a stock company so I can take a whole day setting up shots. This contract expires next March when I will probably head back home, back up in the hills. I just can’t see myself moving back to Atlanta.

I have lost 20 lbs and feel like a million bucks. The accommodations aren’t that nice, but all I do is sleep here and on days like this: sweat here in front of this old air conditioner.

Oh yea, I’m playing music at this little dump, near here on Saturday night with some of the locals. We do mostly old 60-70 pop and rock. Lots of fun.

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“Are we to assume then that many here are advocating the Ends justify the Means”

actually, I don’t think that anyone here has said that TK should have gone scot free … frankly, I think the minimum he should have gotten was a conviction for leaving the scene of an accident (and I don’t understand why he didn’t).

however, what I am saying is that you shouldn’t define the man by that one act and that he could have very easily skulked off and been a wastrel the rest of his life, but didn’t.

as for the comparison to the Bush TANG situation, it wasn’t so much dodging Viet Nam, it was 1) pretending that he didn’t dodge serving in the war, while 2) casting aspersions on someone who served with honor

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Laugh, snort and vomit if you want, but lets reconvene in 3 years and compare Bush to Obama. Let’s look at the numbers and see who protected their country better.

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Bosch

Just tired and sore, thank you very much!

But I do feel better in the afternoons. Go figure.

I trust you and the rest of the readers know that link at 11:50 wasn’t solely for Kamchak and Taxpayer. It’s a fascinating examination of the power of words and the strategies Republicans and Democrats are using when it comes to health care.

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Real at 8:39 am

I see that Cynthia Tucker/McKinney took your below suggestion to her blog — Wasn’t that a surprise!!

On the postive (or negative) side — one can see PresBO, Pelosi and company will now push for Obamacare under the guise of “let’s do it for Ted” (shoot – let’s even now name it “TedCare”)!!

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Will Teddys liver be donated to science?

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This is just what you would expect from a democrat-

One of two people suspected of shattering 11 windows Tuesday morning at the state Democratic Party headquarters has an arrest record and a history of helping a Democratic political candidate, public records show.

Police said that about 2:20 a.m., 24-year-old Maurice Schwenkler, now in custody, and an at-large accomplice took a hammer to the picture windows displaying posters touting President Barack Obama and his health care reform efforts.

They were going to blame this on Conservative “hate groups” but instead they got busted.

How many more incidents like this have they gotten away with?

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BOSCH: Just saw your help page…THANK YOU! I go has a cheezeburger (I love that site) and read…Thanks again…

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MsGodzilla:

Sorry, but you and your fellow liberals will not be reaching “your destination” because the American people are awaking to the reality that yet again they voted for a politician espousing focus-grouped moderate-sounding language to get elected only to attempt governance with a extreme left-ward collectivist bent.

The real “renewal” that America needs would be a once-and-for-all condemnation of the liberal political theology to the ash heap of history with its theft-based siblings communism, socialism, and facism.

Today simply marked the date when a politician who did with legislation what simple muggers and thieves do with guns passed away. If there is any justice to the event, it will be that his passing may prevent approval of legislation that either a) enslaves medical professions to provide service for which they will not be paid and / or b) further enslave the taxpayers of America to pay for said services on behalf of others unwilling to provide them for themselves.

Were he someone worthy of remembrance, he would have used his own property and earnings to fund his pet liberal projects instead of passing legislation that allowed him to “show compasssion” (aka acquire power) using other people’s money.

I wish him well in the next world, but this one will be better off with him gone!

-SD

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will Turd’s brain be donated to science?

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Midori

**will Turd’s brain be donated to science?**

Brain cancer. There probably wasn’t much left.

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Good gosh, what an embarrassment you and your bleeding heart are. Excuse me while I go throw up now.

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Midori

August 26th, 2009
12:15 pm
will Turd’s brain be donated to science?

If he had one…

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Bruno,

Yeah, that’s how I feel about religion too – I like to call myself a Christian Agnostic – or an Episcopalian, whichever.

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I remember when JFK was elected President and how proud this made our family, being Irish Catholic.

The Kennedys, while having their faults, were taught to give back to the community. I believe everyone of them tried to live a life of service, when they did not have to do this. However Joe Kennedy made his fortune, he paid the ultimate price in losing 3 of his sons in service for this country. That is more than most can claim.

Think of all the good the Kennedy children have done for the USA and the world. They have made a sizable mark, Ted arguably the biggest mark with his long and distinguished career. I can forgive him for being weak at moments, although I would venture he never fully forgave himself.

I hope that the next generation of young Kennedys will continue their legacy of service to this nation.

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This from Wikipedia “Chappaquiddick Incident”. I think it highlights the problem some have with the character of a man who was willing to leave the scene of an accident especially under these circumstances. We’ve all made mistakes, but, really, to swim 500 yards back to your hotel and then go to sleep-knowing someone’s in your car-underwater? Most of us can’t even imagine that and it’s bothersome to know that an elected leader was capable of such a thing.
Having said that, may he rest in peace. Sincerely.

[edit] Events of the night of July 18, 1969
According to his own testimony at the inquest into Kopechne’s death, Kennedy left the party at “approximately 11:15 p.m.” When he announced that he was about to leave, Kopechne indicated “that she was desirous of leaving, if I would be kind enough to drop her back at her hotel”. Kennedy then requested the keys to his car from his chauffeur, Crimmins. Asked why he did not have his chauffeur drive them both, Kennedy explained that Crimmins along with some other partygoers “were concluding their meal, enjoying the fellowship and it didn’t appear to me necessary to require him to bring me back to Edgartown”.[3] Kopechne told no one that she was leaving with Kennedy, and left her purse and hotel key at the party.[4]

Christopher “Huck” Look was a deputy sheriff working as a special police officer at the Edgartown regatta dance that night. At 12:30 am he left the dance, crossed over to Chappaquiddick in the yacht club’s launch, got into his parked car and drove home. He testified that between 12:30 and 12:45 am he had seen a dark car containing a man driving and a woman in the front seat approaching the intersection with Dike Road. The car had gone first onto the private Cemetery Road and stopped there. Thinking that the occupants of the car might be lost, Look had gotten out of his car and walked towards it. When he was 25 to 30 feet away, the car started backing up towards him. When Look called out to offer his help, the car took off down Dike Road in a cloud of dust.[5] Look recalled that the car’s license plate began with a “L” and contained the number “7″ twice, both details true of Kennedy’s 1967 Oldsmobile Delmont 88.

The Dike Bridge, pictured here in 2008 with guardrail.According to his inquest testimony, Kennedy made a wrong turn onto Dike Road, an unlit dirt road that led to Dike Bridge (also spelled Dyke Bridge). Dike Road was unpaved, but Kennedy, driving at “approximately twenty miles an hour”, took “no particular notice” of this fact, and did not realize that he was no longer headed towards the ferry landing.[6] Dike Bridge was a wooden bridge angled obliquely to the road with no guardrail. A fraction of a second before he reached the bridge, Kennedy applied his brakes; he then drove over the side of the bridge. The car plunged into tide-swept Poucha Pond (at that location a channel) and came to rest upside-down underwater. Kennedy later recalled that he was able to swim free of the vehicle, but Kopechne was not. Kennedy claimed at the inquest that he called Kopechne’s name several times from the shore, then tried to swim down to reach her seven or eight times, then rested on the bank for around fifteen minutes before returning on foot to Lawrence Cottage, where the party attended by Kopechne and other “Boiler Room Girls” had occurred. Kennedy denied seeing any house with a light on during his journey back to Lawrence Cottage.[7]

“Dike House” along Dike Road.In addition to the working telephone at the Lawrence Cottage, according to one commentator, his route back to the cottage would have taken him past four houses from which he could have telephoned and summoned help; however, he did not do so.[8] The first of those houses, referred to as “Dike House”, was only 150 yards away from the bridge, and was occupied by Sylvia Malm and her family at the time of the incident. Malm later stated that she had left a light on at the residence when she retired for that evening.[9]

According to Kennedy’s testimony, Gargan and party co-host Paul Markham then returned to the pond with Kennedy to try to rescue Kopechne. Both of the other men also tried to dive into the water and rescue Kopechne multiple times.[1] When their efforts to rescue Kopechne failed, Kennedy testified, Gargan and Markham drove with Kennedy to the ferry landing, both insisting multiple times that the accident had to be reported to the authorities.[10] According to Markham’s testimony Kennedy was sobbing and on the verge of breaking down.[11] Kennedy went on to testify that “[I] had full intention of reporting it. And I mentioned to Gargan and Markham something like, ‘You take care of the other girls; I will take care of the accident!’ – that is what I said and I dove into the water”.[10] Kennedy had already told Gargan and Markham not to tell the other women anything about the incident “[b]ecause I felt strongly that if these girls were notified that an accident had taken place and Mary Jo had, in fact, drowned, that it would only be a matter of seconds before all of those girls, who were long and dear friends of Mary Jo’s, would go to the scene of the accident and enter the water with, I felt, a good chance that some serious mishap might have occurred to any one of them”.[12] Gargan and Markam would testify that they assumed that Kennedy was going to inform the authorities once he got back to Edgartown, and thus did not do so themselves.[2]

According to his own testimony, Kennedy swam across the 500-foot channel, back to Edgartown and returned to his hotel room, where he removed his clothes and collapsed on his bed.[12] Hearing noises, he later put on dry clothes and asked someone what the time was: it was something like 2:30 a.m., the senator recalled. He testified that, as the night went on, “I almost tossed and turned and walked around that room … I had not given up hope all night long that, by some miracle, Mary Jo would have escaped from the car.”[13]

Back at his hotel, Kennedy complained at 2:55 am to the hotel owner that he had been awoken by a noisy party.[2] By 7:30 am the next morning he was talking “casually” to the winner of the previous day’s sailing race, with no indication that anything was amiss.[2] At 8 a.m., Gargan and Markham joined Kennedy at his hotel where they had a “heated conversation.” According to Kennedy’s testimony, the two men asked why he hadn’t reported the accident. Kennedy responded by telling them “about my own thoughts and feelings as I swam across that channel … that somehow when they arrived in the morning that they were going to say that Mary Jo was still alive”.[13] The three men subsequently crossed back to Chappaquiddick Island on the ferry, where Kennedy made a series of phone calls from a payphone by the crossing to his friends for advice; he again did not report the accident to authorities.[2]

[edit] Discovery of the body
Earlier that morning, two amateur fishermen had seen the overturned car in the water and notified the inhabitants of the nearest cottage to the pond, who called the authorities at around 8:20 am.[14] A diver was sent down and discovered Kopechne’s body at around 8:45 am.[15] The diver, John Farrar, later testified at the inquest that Kopechne’s body was pressed up in the car in the spot where an air bubble would have formed. He interpreted this to mean that Kopechne had survived for a while after the initial accident in the air bubble, and concluded that

“ Had I received a call within five to ten minutes of the accident occurring, and was able, as I was the following morning, to be at the victim’s side within twenty-five minutes of receiving the call, in such event there is a strong possibility that she would have been alive on removal from the submerged car.[8] ”

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Government Control or No Bill

August 26th, 2009
11:57 am

Well, so far Obama has kept us safe. Sorry I can’t say the same about the Afghans and our armed forces he has been entrusted with.

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Gee David,

Don’t guess you could’ve posted a link to it – huh? And Wikipedia? Uh, yeah, okay, so did you write that yourself?

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“Yeah, that’s how I feel about religion too – I like to call myself a Christian Agnostic – or an Episcopalian, whichever.”

Bosch–I appreciate you “reaching across the aisle” on your shout. It’s a shame that so many bloggers here are happy to simply sling insults around without bringing any new insights or info to the mix. As much as I think USinUK is crazy for being as liberal as she is, I respect that she makes an effort to support her case.

“Episcopalian= Catholic Lite. All the pomp, but none of the guilt…”

Good one, Normal.

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Looks like the low life’s now have another 8 x 10 glossy to hang on the wall next to JFK, MLK, RFK, and KFC (that would be the speed dial call for the new sandwich).

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Thomas@11:40am-very well said.

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Bosch@11:45am – I can’t speak for all,but for me I have a hard time understanding how a man with such a checkered past is so revered by the left on one hand, then on the other talk about torture tactic’s by the CIA being so reprehensible. Not judging just sayin

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AmVet – No it doesn’t make us feel better – that liberals would act the same way. The point being made is that none of us is better than the other. Get it? You have people letting it be known what they think of Kennedy, the day of his death and for some reason you can’t believe that the same things would be said of Cheney or Bush or Rumsfeld etc. The street goes both ways. You’re no better than I and vice versa. Get off your high horse you old windbag.

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Bobby had Jack killed and it worked then backfired and we were stuck with this oh so sorry excuse for a human being, Teddy Drunkard Kennedy.

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a public servant

August 26th, 2009
11:10 am
What Ted Kennedy’s life can teach us is that there is a little bit of bad in the best of us and a little bit of good in the worst of us. A lifetime of service counts. It doesn’t negate the mistakes he made in his life anymore than the mistakes negate his service. Ted Kennedy’s life should show us that redemption is possible.

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The constant tragedies of the Kennedy family are overshadowed only by their triumphs for us, yes, us, Americans. They have paid the ultimate price for this country and it’s citizens, despite being born to wealth. How many other wealthy families can say the same. What a great example Senator Kennedy is to all those born into wealth. He was trying, in essence, to help me and my family.R.I.P. Senator.

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Joey, having watched the people in Washington DC closely for nearly forty years, I assert that it was one of the darlings of the far right-wing, our very own Newt, who laid the siege on civility.

Under his bright but otherwise pedantic, say nothing, sophistry he perfected the art of venomous, personal attacks.

Granted, it is irrefutable that many before him had tried, but you simply have to stand in awe of the greatest BS artist and mean-spirited little pr1ck in the history of American politics.

And I agree that most of the blind mice and apparatchiks on both “sides of the aisle” were only too eager to follow his repugnant lead.

And so now, we not only have mental lightweights in blogdom acting like petulant 12 year old brats an abused animals that strike out at everybody and everything, we can acknowledge that the unthinking and immoral here are merely aping their “heroes” in DC.

What a republic…

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The Christian sentiment among the jackboots is heartwarming indeed. With Ted Kennedy’s passing they’ll have a little pep in their goose step at militia drills. Good job birthbaggers!

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Hef – Amvet talks of the moral high ground, yet uses the same tactics he so detests, to describe the bloggers.

I guess that’s what senility does to you. Was he in Vietnam? Maybe the Agent Orange got to him. I don’t wish that on anyone.

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What Ted Kennedys life can teach us is definitely Dont drink and drive.

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“…I ended up meeting Kennedy. What I remember most was not the man but the impact he had on other people. It was my first up-close look at the power of charisma.”

Yeah I met Bobby Kennedy in 1964. He made a speech to a small segretated all white southern college. Over 500 people went into auditorium so they could boo & hiss at the man responsible for interragation & ruining a way of life. Bobby Kennedy started talking. When he finished he received a standing ovation. The students were still applauding as he left the auditorium.

Chrisma. You either have it or not. The 3 Kennedy brothers had it.
Reagan had it. Obama has it.

I met Bobby Kennedy a couple of hours after the speech. Physically a little short skinny guy. Chrisma-wise, the largest man I have ever met.

Teddy Kennedy – very profolic senator, more legislation introduced & passed (& I opposed them all as I recall) than any senator in history.

Ironic that George W Bush touts 5 major domestic accomplishments of his presidency. Teddy Kennedy wrote 2 of them, No Child & Medicare Part D.

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The man’s a murderer, he should have died in prison not in any honor what so ever. I’d rather Michael Vick be a senator than Toastied ted.
The country is better off with out him.
The people who are mourning the most? Vodka makers.

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I think that is is truly sad that so many people posting here don’t understand what we’ve lost today. We lost a man who was not beholden to special interests, he didn’t need big pharma’s money or big oil’s money or any other big “insert your euphamism here” to get reelected. He was concerned with the US citizen. Remember citizenship? Have a little respect for a man that devoted almost all of his entire adult life to public service, without thought for his own enrichment. Can you say that about other senators and congressmen and women? Didn’t think so. We have lost a great man today, one who in the future will be canonized by history. Try to show a little respect, if you can…

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“Other than that I rather enjoy his rhetoric.”

Hef, I am relatively poorly educated, in the classical sense. I lack three hours of an Associates Degree. And like my heroes Truman and Eisenhower come from very humble beginnings.

What separates me from the apparently not-named people you champion is that they’ve seemingly spent their entire live reading Us and People magazines. And little else.

Characterized by abysmal vocabularies, which is merely a sing of a lack of evolved thinking. Atrociously incapable of presenting a detailed and cogent analysis of the issues of today.

I choose to discuss ideas such as:

The health and sustainability of the planet and environment.

The role of war for profit.

The legitimacy of justice.

And common human decency toward s one’s fellow countrymen.

To which the unread and completely un-self disciplined louts like goner respond like a Pavlovian dog and who finds intellectual stimulation by p!ssing on Kennedy’s grave.

Not really newsworthy, I agree, but you are correct, enjoyable.

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Wow, just when I think I’ve seen and read the worst possible things ever. It would be interesting to see some of you in front of St. Peter when your time comes. I don’t think anyone here was a personal confidant of Mr. Kennedy, so no one knows what kind of penance he’s done here on earth. Unless any of you are related to Mary Jo, I don’t think you have the right to assume what the family thinks of Ted’s death.

If it were Cheny, Bush, Limbaugh, Obama, Pelosi, Reed, or anyone else, I’d have the same thing to say for them. May God have mercy on their soul. It’s amazing how people want to judge each other without judging themselves first.

Ms. Dusty, who has absolutely nothing to fear from me, that was by far the most eloquent thing that could have been said. Even if you didn’t respect the person in life, show a little respect when they’re dead. That’s why we true Southerners pull off the road or remove our hats when a funeral procession passes by.

Geez, I hope those of you who are just spiteful of Ted in life and death don’t get the same treatment when your time is up.

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Angry Black Man

August 26th, 2009
2:11 pm

We arent talking about Bush, Cheney etc. Please try to stay on track. The subject is a drunkard by the name of Ted Kennedy. Pls conform or leave this discussion thread.

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I hear one of the Buckhead restaurants is giving free caviar to Cadillac drivers.

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[...] in public life, the incident will be raised," Kennedy once acknowledged. Chappaquiddick "may even have magnified Kennedy

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Tax and spend liberals are the only ones who make sure that the American taxpayer benefits from his tax dollar. No Republican has ever done anything that has benefited the average working taxpayer. They just fund sneakier ways to make sure that the average taxpayer doesn’t keep more of his own money.
They give a 300 dollar tax cut publicly and then steal back 3000 dollars by picking pockets in other ways. No working person has ever kept more of his own money under Republican control.

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Throughout his life, Ted Kennedy never believed in an Eternal Lake of Fire or Satan.

He sure does now.

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Purveyors of Distilled spirits across the world mourn the loss of Teddy “the keg” Kennedy.

I, on the other hand, DO NOT!

Adios fatso!

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cape cod

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I did not teach school today. I blogged alllllllllllllllllllllll day long! I need help.

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Watching Orrin Hatch on with Wolf Blitzer saying nice things about Ted. Man, he looks rough. Either he’s Botoxed to a fare-thee-well or he nodded off in a tanning bed and singed off his eyebrows. He looks like a cigar-store Indian.

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There’s a correlation between “Redneck’s” comments and the headline focusing on the steady decline of Georgia’s SAT scores. ‘Nuff said.

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I find it funny all the people who bad mouth him are all the same people who praise a politican who is personally responsible for over 4,300 deaths and failed to prevent 2,900 more. I think he was also a boozer. And he came from a wealthly family whose father did business with the nazis and he did business with a family that was responsible for the upbringing of a man who founded a terrorist orginization. And yet you still redicule him. Please, give me a break.

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All this bizarre deification of Edward Kennedy (who was nothing more than a murderous terrorist sc*mbag) by the same people who condemned the compassionate release of Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi, shows why Britain should ignore America’s manufactured collective outrage over al-Megrahi.

It also shows why Britain shouldn’t regard the United States of Crass Hypocrisy as a friend, or an ally, why our troops shouldn’t be dying in Afghanistan and Iraq, why we shouldn’t even have diplomatic relations with the United States and why most Americans in the United Kingdom should be treated as the immoral undesirable aliens that they are.

Sure, we hear the usual Fenian excuses that Edward Kennedy simply supported a United Ireland, but not the IRA and its violence; but facts are facts and no amount of convenient revisionism can change the hard fact that for many years he was one of the chief fund raisers for NORAID – and it is an indisputable fact that NORAID provided 95% of the funding for the IRA’s bombs and violence – and that he is therefore soaked in the blood of far more innocent victims than Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi is (even IF you believe that he is guilty).

But hey, there weren’t many American victims of IRA bombs, and as this forum repeatedly proves, in the eyes of most Americans, only American victims of terrorism count.

As not only a victim of a 1996 IRA, but also someone who has always bee a firm believer in the right of the people of Northern Ireland to determine their own future by peaceful means, I had long since forgiven Kennedy and the IRA – but since all this unseemly and hypocritical outrage over al-Megrahi, when the true colours of our ‘ally’ were finally shown, all of that forgiveness has gone out of the window and as far as I am concerned, Kennedy – and ALL of those rancid hypocrites who hail him as a hero – can rot in the hell of their own making.

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More BS from the leader in BS, NJ.

The military vote did NOT go to the Democrats in the last election. More BS from NJ.

John Wayne did NOT seek deferment, but was denied due to a football injury when he tried to enlist. More BS from NJ.

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One less drunken, philandering, murdering, liberal dirtbag. I’ll drink to that!!

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It is interesting that no one crucifies Laura Bush for driving the car in a two car accident in which a young man was killed.

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