Iraq: When the best we can do isn’t very good
Firefighters respond to a bombing near the Iraqi Foreign Ministry in Baghdad Wednesday. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed)
BAGHDAD — A string of attacks in Baghdad, including two bombings near prominent government buildings, killed at least 95 people and wounded more than 530 Wednesday morning in the bloodiest day in the capital since the withdrawal of U.S. troops from cities.
The attacks happened in close succession late Wednesday morning. The two deadliest bombings targeted the finance and foreign ministries, which are among the most heavily guarded buildings in Baghdad, Iraqi authorities said.
Separately, at least six mortars rained down on two heavily transited locations in central Baghdad, Iraqi officials said. Three mortars targeted the Green Zone, the fortified enclave in Baghdad that contains the U.S. Embassy and many Iraqi government offices.
The bloodiest of the day’s attacks was a bombing just outside the Foreign Ministry that killed at least 47 people and wounded 195, officials said. The massive blast, apparently from a vehicle packed with explosives, was particularly deadly because the government recently removed some of the concrete walls that the U.S. military had erected to protect against car bombs.
The explosion just feet from the ministry building, which is near the Green Zone and close to the Iraqi parliament, left a crater about 80 feet wide and 12 feet deep. Maj. Gen. Jihad al-Jaberi, the head of the Baghdad bomb squad, said the bomb had two tons of explosives.
Unfortunately, I think this kind of thing will go on for a long, long time in Iraq. The surge bought us important time, and that time was put to good use in creating at least a semblance of an Iraqi governing structure and military. But none of Iraq’s basic political problems and ethnic and religious differences have been resolved; if you look back at the benchmarks of progress that President Bush established in his 2006 speech announcing the surge, few have been achieved. There’s still no oil law, no de-Bathification law, no resolution of the situation in Kirkuk and the Kurdish area. In fact, U.S. Gen. Ray Odierno wants to move U.S. troops into that area in hopes of easing the violence there, even as American forces are supposed to be winding down their involvement.
There are some situations in which the best we can do simply isn’t very good. Iraq is proving to be such a situation, and so may Afghanistan.
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Dave R.
August 19th, 2009
2:35 pm
Taxcheat, get with reality. CBS RETRACTED their story on the Bush attendance issue.
RETRACTED.
Means it wasn’t true, or at the very least, could not be proven to be true.
What part of RETRACTED do you not get, Taxcheat?
Al Goron
August 19th, 2009
2:37 pm
Now see here. We have consulted with numerous counsel at the UN and other countries around the world. The general consensus was that the initial cause of global warming could be seen via the oceans/seas retreating, however, it has been confirmed that this particular phenomenon was caused the United States use low flo toilets.
If one recalls during the 1970’s we had global cooling yet now we see the exact opposite or reverse as we move into global warming. Therefore the name has been changed to global climate change, see how we covered all the bases this time? Truth is I stand to make a cool fortune and I would ask you kind Sir to please be quiet and go along to get along.
Paul
August 19th, 2009
2:37 pm
Crushing 2:32
Thanks. There’s something about New England common sense… or was, years ago -
chicken in every pot
August 19th, 2009
2:38 pm
“A self-proclaimed “fighter pilot” that could not even show up when he was supposed to but perhaps I’m just being too picky, demanding the truth and what not. Next thing you know, someone will claim that both learned something in college just because they both attended. Any takers.
Go for it.”
Ask Dan Rather, he has a lot of free time now. http://www.hdnet.com
Taxpayer
August 19th, 2009
2:39 pm
Normal
August 19th, 2009
2:26 pm
Taxpayer, 33 months of my life may have been reduced to one paragraph in Middle School Social Sceince books, but it will never be ancient history to me…just sayin’
Normal, that was a jab at Paul’s crack for me to “let it go” for bringing up recent history, as recent as May of 2009, on Bush, the Destroyer.
Captain Underpants
August 19th, 2009
2:40 pm
Crushing the pubt’s
August 19th, 2009
2:34 pm
Raspberries…you are just jealous. Why dont you go find a job or volunteer in the French Foreign Legion. Anything would be better than having you hear spewing lies and half-truths about things of which you obviously know nothing.
Taxpayer
August 19th, 2009
2:43 pm
Dave R.
August 19th, 2009
2:35 pm
Taxcheat, get with reality. CBS RETRACTED their story on the Bush attendance issue.
RETRACTED.
Means it wasn’t true, or at the very least, could not be proven to be true.
What part of RETRACTED do you not get, Taxcheat?
Get with reality yourself instead of living in your little fantasy world, son. I said read my post and prove it wrong — not make up your own little things in order to proclaim yourself right. I even re-posted it so you would not need to hurt your phalanges scrolling back for it and you still dropped the ball.
truth
August 19th, 2009
2:44 pm
“Bush is a coward whose daddy got him into the National Guard. The plan was always never to train little Georgie in a plane that would deploy to Nam. When he got orders tng o report for a physical for a plane that was deploying to Nam, he fled AWOL and illegally hid in Alabama and the only thing he flew was cocaine and booze. He then had the records destroyed.’
Tell us about your military record. And that post is libelous by nature, and completely false. Bookman would save himself and the AJC possible litigation by deleting it. If Dan Rather was unable to prove any of that, I doubt you can.
Turd Ferguson
August 19th, 2009
2:44 pm
Model to be Caned for Drinking Beer in Malaysia
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,540504,00.html?test=latestnews
If she was caught drinking a Pabst Blue Ribbon then the punishment certainly fits the crime.
TnGelding
August 19th, 2009
2:45 pm
You can’t help those that don’t want help. Of course this is what most of us feared all along. But maybe strong leaders will emerge to bring sanity to the asylum. We can still hope.
Normal
August 19th, 2009
2:46 pm
Taxpayer, I’m cool with that…
————
Electrician: Where have all the war protesters gone?
Can’t speak for everyone, but when they quit making Geritol….
Doggone/GA
August 19th, 2009
2:48 pm
“Al “Man-made global warming” Gore (how are you enjoying you second year in a row of cooler temperatures, Crush?), ”
Don’t know much about global warming do you?
Booger Bomber
August 19th, 2009
2:48 pm
UH-OH…
Troy Davis troubles may have just begun…
Scientists: It’s Easy to ‘Engineer Crime Scene’ With Fabricated DNA
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,540641,00.html
Dave R.
August 19th, 2009
2:49 pm
Taxcheat, I don’t have to make things up. Your post is proven wrong by your assertion that Bush didn’t attend his National Guard duty. One of the largest news organizations on the planet tried to prove what you said, couldn’t do so, was alleged to have ether created or used forged documents to try to make their case, was caught, and ended up RETRACTING their story.
What’s it like to live in a fantasy world 24/7, Taxcheat?
Oh, and remember, I’m no fan of Bush, didn’t vote for him either time, and disagreed on his policies most of the time. So don’t try to go down that route.
Your allegation was investigated, and was not proven to be true, nor was it proven to be false. Therefore, it is an unfounded accusation and is wholly inaccurate. Like everything you post in your irrational hatred of everything Bush or Republican.
jconservative
August 19th, 2009
2:50 pm
The seeds of the present day Iraq were laid when the Bush administration decided in Jan 2003 not to deploy the extra 300,000 troops recommended by the war planning group that would be needed to occupy the country. History shows the occupation was a disaster.
Everybody knew that as soon as you had American troops occupying an Muslim country they had just invaded, that every 2 bit terrorist within a thousand miles of Iraq would be trying to get into Iraq to kill American troops.
Dave R.
August 19th, 2009
2:51 pm
Doggone, you apparently don’t know much about global temperatures, which were cooler in 2008 than in 2007, and have been trending cooler in 2009.
But then you man-made global warming cultists don’t like to use facts, do you?
@@
August 19th, 2009
2:51 pm
Good grief, Crush!!!!
You and Midori need to head for the bushes and hook up. I’ve never seen to people so enamored with a single thought.
Taxpayer
August 19th, 2009
2:55 pm
Taxcheat, I don’t have to make things up. Your post is proven wrong by your assertion that Bush didn’t attend his National Guard duty. One of the largest news organizations on the planet tried to prove what you said, couldn’t do so, was alleged to have ether created or used forged documents to try to make their case, was caught, and ended up RETRACTING their story.
What’s it like to live in a fantasy world 24/7, Taxcheat?
Oh, and remember, I’m no fan of Bush, didn’t vote for him either time, and disagreed on his policies most of the time. So don’t try to go down that route.
Your allegation was investigated, and was not proven to be true, nor was it proven to be false. Therefore, it is an unfounded accusation and is wholly inaccurate. Like everything you post in your irrational hatred of everything Bush or Republican.
Once again, DaveR, you choose to post your perception of reality rather than the truth. Now, show me precisely where I said what you claim that I said. Cut and paste is perfectly acceptable. Go for it and back up your claims with the proof. I’m waiting. Hell, you cannot even refer to me by my actual moniker so I won’t hold my breath waiting for you to get anything else correct.
@@
August 19th, 2009
2:55 pm
w
I’m always forgettin’ w’s. Maybe the two of you should try it, eh Crush?
Dave R.
August 19th, 2009
2:56 pm
The problem, jconservative, was that we had no business invading Iraq in the first place.
Whether the evidence for going in was fabricated or not, Iraq was not, and would never have been a threat to us. That was proven by the (21 days I believe) destruction of their military by our troops.
I really have no idea why Bush felt he needed to go into Iraq, but I have yet to see any proof that our intervention in that country was justified in any way.
Bart S.
August 19th, 2009
2:56 pm
Just because something can’t be proven doesn’t mean it’s not true. (Nobody saw me do it! Can’t prove anything!) Bush also could not prove he DID report for duty as claimed. My daddy was in the Alabama Air National Guard during those years. Got a picture of Daddy on the tarmac with his plane and his unit. Lots of pics of Daddy and his flight buddies who can still remember him being there. All kinds of photographic and documented evidence of his SERVICE. Why didn’t Bush pull out his and end the ugly rumors? BTW, Daddy never saw the Bush boy neither, and he WAS there.
@@
August 19th, 2009
2:58 pm
My apologies Crush. It’s Taxpayer who should hook up with Midori but then that would be diddling oneself.
SC Birdflyte
August 19th, 2009
3:00 pm
On the issue of Bush’s National Guard service, read BUSH’S WAR FOR RE-ELECTION by Jim Moore, a journalist with years of experience covering W when he was governor of Texas. Proving that the documents CBS used were bogus isn’t the same thing as proving that the “facts” issued by the Bush White House prove that he did complete his service.
crush uses wikipedia
August 19th, 2009
3:01 pm
“Just because something can’t be proven doesn’t mean it’s not true. (Nobody saw me do it! Can’t prove anything!) Bush also could not prove he DID report for duty as claimed. My daddy was in the Alabama Air National Guard during those years. Got a picture of Daddy on the tarmac with his plane and his unit. Lots of pics of Daddy and his flight buddies who can still remember him being there. All kinds of photographic and documented evidence of his SERVICE. Why didn’t Bush pull out his and end the ugly rumors? BTW, Daddy never saw the Bush boy neither, and he WAS there”
Evidence? Proof? Maybe you should call Dan Rather so he can clear his name?
Doggone/GA
August 19th, 2009
3:02 pm
“Doggone, you apparently don’t know much about global temperatures, which were cooler in 2008 than in 2007, and have been trending cooler in 2009″
Tell that to the melting glaciers and ice caps. They seem to think it’s warmer…by, you know, MELTING. And it’s the melting of the ice that is the danger. If enough ice melts to dilute the salt content of the oceans, that can play major havoc with the major currents, like the Gulf Stream in the Atlantic.
Less saltier water can slow, or even halt, the “conveyor belt” of warmer water that the Gulf Stream (and other currents) convey into the northern latitudes and that mitigates (try “warms”) the temperatures in those latitudes.
If that warmer tropical air is not moved into the northern latitudes the temperatures there will get colder, and the distinct possibility exists that if the temperatures stay lower long enough that an ice age could be triggered.
I know the important facts, which you apparently do NOT. Try looking up the history of “The Little Ice Age” in Europe, which was triggered by a shift in the Gulf Stream conveyor belt of warmer tropical air.
stay on topic
August 19th, 2009
3:04 pm
See how the libs with BDS shift the topic to Bush? We are talking about Obama’s failed policies in Iraq and Afghanistan. Focus.
Doggone/GA
August 19th, 2009
3:04 pm
“Gulf Stream conveyor belt of warmer tropical air”
Sorry…”warmer tropical water”
Crushing the pubt's
August 19th, 2009
3:04 pm
Rather’s case against CBS is alive and well at this moment. CBS Corporate covered up information that Bush was a chicken and an AWOL degenerate.
Bush expanded on his dodging service by running this country into a ditch it may never get out of. Iraq is a total failure and has wasted nearly 5000 soldiers’ lives, thousands of contractors’ and hundreds of thousands of Iraq’s lives and over 3 trillion dollars.
A lot of bumper sticker patriots who would never let their kids go to Iraq are at the front of the cheering section of course.
Bush, Cheney, Chambliss and Chambliss’ kid complete cowards.
@@
August 19th, 2009
3:04 pm
DANG! One of my comments got thrown into moderation.
No biggie. Taxpayer/Midori/Bart S. and the Big “O”.
Alright I’m off to run and errand.
Dave R.
August 19th, 2009
3:05 pm
Taxcheat at 2:05: “A self-proclaimed “fighter pilot” that could not even show up when he was supposed to but perhaps I’m just being too picky, demanding the truth and what not.”
OK, Taxcheat, what part of “could not show up” do you not understand? It was your own post, after all.
Hence, my reply that the CBS story that tried to prove such “not showing up” could not do so. In fact, it appears that they tried to fabricate documents that would back up their claim, which was why the later RETRACTED their story. The CBS RETRACTION of the story is an historical FACT, as is the subsequent FIRING of the producer of the story and the later DEMOTION of Dan Rather. That you don’t know about such facts is not surprising to me, as you avoid them on a daily basis.
Your allegation is without fact and is wholly inaccurate, which is par for the course for you in your irrational hatred of all things Bush and republicans.
Crushing the pubt's
August 19th, 2009
3:06 pm
You’re talking about Bush’s clusterf_ck in Iraq and Bush’s failure in Afghanistan. Bush had 8 years and t6 of them with his majority in Congress. Obama has had a little over 6 months.
No one was judging Bush on anything until he had years to f_ck up everything he touched.
Crushing the pubt's
August 19th, 2009
3:07 pm
Bush had 8 years to ruin Iraq and Afghanistan, and Obama has had 6 months to attack his messes.
TnGelding
August 19th, 2009
3:07 pm
stay on topic
August 19th, 2009
3:04 pm
Sorry, but Obama is just letting Bush’s policy in Iraq wind down. It is very similar to what he proposed, however.
verify sources
August 19th, 2009
3:08 pm
“I really have no idea why Bush felt he needed to go into Iraq, but I have yet to see any proof that our intervention in that country was justified in any way.’
Ever heard of the UN? How about a joint resolution?
http://www.casi.org.uk/info/scriraq.html
Turd Ferguson
August 19th, 2009
3:08 pm
No you screw up everything you touch…BLEH!
Dave R.
August 19th, 2009
3:10 pm
Doggone, maybe you can try to show a correlation where the “Little Ice Age in Europe” can be linked to man-made global warming when it was a completely natural event which happened in medieval times before we supposedly started to cause all this global warming.
Nice try, son.
@@
August 19th, 2009
3:11 pm
I take back my apology, Crush.
Bush is a coward whose daddy got him into the National Guard. The plan was always never to train little Georgie in a plane that would deploy to Nam. When he got orders tng o report for a physical for a plane that was deploying to Nam, he fled AWOL and illegally hid in Alabama and the only thing he flew was cocaine and booze. He then had the records destroyed.
You’re riding the rail, too.
RollerGirl
August 19th, 2009
3:11 pm
Crushing the pubts wrote :”There are estimates as high as 3 million widows with children of elementary school or middle school age who have fled Iraq to other Arab countries who aren’t permitted to get licesnses to work in these countries, and a significant percentage of these women have begun working as prostitutes in order to feed their kids and themselves.”
If so, we should create an “office of Pimping” and get our share..we gave them the opportunity, and obama can put the proceeds toward the public option.
Paul
August 19th, 2009
3:12 pm
Taxpayer 2:39
’twasn’t a jab –
Doggone/GA 2:48
Just had to go there, didn’t you……
Crushing the pubt's
August 19th, 2009
3:13 pm
New NBC/WSJ Poll: 21% Approve of GOP on Health Care Reform
) Despite a month of guns and swastikas, the numbers on Obama’s handling of health care reform haven’t budged (41% approve/47% disapprove; 41/46 last month). Note: the question is about his “handling” — not the proposals themselves.
3) 62% said the town hall mob scenes had no impact on their opinion. 16% said it made them more favorable to reform, 19% said less favorable. Epic Teabagger fail.
4) 60% still think our health care system needs a “complete overhaul” or “major reform.”
5) The big lesson for the White House? Completely ignore Republicans.
House Democrats are probing the nation’s largest insurance companies for lavish spending, demanding reams of compensation data and schedules of retreats and conferences.
Letters sent to 52 insurance companies by Democratic leaders demand extensive documents for an examination of ‘extensive compensation and other business practices in the health insurance industry.” The letters set a deadline of Sept. 14 for the documents.
Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, and Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.), chairman of the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, signed the three-page letter dated Monday.
Doggone/GA
August 19th, 2009
3:13 pm
“Doggone, maybe you can try to show a correlation where the “Little Ice Age in Europe” can be linked to man-made global warming when it was a completely natural event which happened in medieval times before we supposedly started to cause all this global warming”
Warming is warming. And it isn’t “man-made” global warming, except in the sense that the amount of greenhouse gases we are emitting are contributing to an acceleration of the warming process…which might, or might not, happen anyway without our contribution. But we are pushing it closer and closer TO happening…and happening faster and faster.
Try learning the FACTS instead of the denier talking points.
Doggone/GA
August 19th, 2009
3:14 pm
“Just had to go there, didn’t you”
Heck, yeah…I’m bored.
Taxpayer
August 19th, 2009
3:14 pm
@@
August 19th, 2009
2:58 pm
My apologies Crush. It’s Taxpayer who should hook up with Midori but then that would be diddling oneself.
Midori is an aok blogger with a good head on her shoulders. As to your diddling yourself, I don’t want to know. With you and your paranoias, there’s just no telling.
Dave R.
August 19th, 2009
3:14 pm
Verify Sources, please. Since when do we kowtow to the UN for our national policy? Who do you think was pushing for those resolutions?
The Bush Administration.
It gave them political “cover” to invade a sovereign country that wasn’t threatening our national interests.
Crushing the pubt's
August 19th, 2009
3:15 pm
Do you generally approve or disapprove of the way that Republicans in Congress are handling the issue of health care reform?
Approve ……………………………………..21
Disapprove …………………………………62
Not sure ……………………………………..17
Those town halls were a big win for conservatives!
Dave R.
August 19th, 2009
3:15 pm
Doggone, and cooling is cooling, which is what we’ve been doing for the past 2 years. Sorry to burst your fact bubble.
lol
August 19th, 2009
3:15 pm
“If so, we should create an “office of Pimping” and get our share..we gave them the opportunity, and obama can put the proceeds toward the public option.”
Pimp Czar.
verify
August 19th, 2009
3:18 pm
“Do you generally approve or disapprove of the way that Republicans in Congress are handling the issue of health care reform?
Approve ……………………………………..21
Disapprove …………………………………62
Not sure ……………………………………..17
Those town halls were a big win for conservatives!”
Link? You just make it up as you go.
Doggone/GA
August 19th, 2009
3:19 pm
“Doggone, and cooling is cooling, which is what we’ve been doing for the past 2 years. Sorry to burst your fact bubble”
Is it possible for you to miss the point any MORE completely? “Global warming” leads to a melting of fresh water glaciers and ice caps…which lead to dilution of the oceans…which leads to changes in the tropical warm water conveyor belt…which leads to COOLER TEMPERATURES in the northern latitudes.
Try to keep up with the FACTS. It’s the ocean temperatures that are the base problem, not the air temperatures. But if the ocean temps get warm enough to stop the tropical water conveyor belt for LONG ENOUGH then the air temps could stay cool enough, long enough, to trigger an ice age.
Taxpayer
August 19th, 2009
3:19 pm
Dave R.
August 19th, 2009
3:05 pm
Taxcheat at 2:05: “A self-proclaimed “fighter pilot” that could not even show up when he was supposed to but perhaps I’m just being too picky, demanding the truth and what not.”
OK, Taxcheat, what part of “could not show up” do you not understand? It was your own post, after all.
Hence, my reply that the CBS story that tried to prove such “not showing up” could not do so. In fact, it appears that they tried to fabricate documents that would back up their claim, which was why the later RETRACTED their story. The CBS RETRACTION of the story is an historical FACT, as is the subsequent FIRING of the producer of the story and the later DEMOTION of Dan Rather. That you don’t know about such facts is not surprising to me, as you avoid them on a daily basis.
Your allegation is without fact and is wholly inaccurate, which is par for the course for you in your irrational hatred of all things Bush and republicans.
Damn, DaveR, you re-post my post and with the words staring you in the face, you still cannot get it correct. Do I have to hold your hand. Further, even after I pointed out your inaccurate moniker, you continue with it anyway. You are hopeless. And, so full of hate. What is with that, son. Keep trying though. I’ll let you know if you ever get it correct.
TnGelding
August 19th, 2009
3:19 pm
Turd Ferguson
August 19th, 2009
2:00 pm
Bush left a lot of fires to be put out. I just saw her in a news conference with the foreign minister of Colombia:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – A new U.S.-Colombia security pact that has angered some South American nations is aimed at fighting drug trafficking and terrorism and will not create U.S. bases in the Andean nation, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Tuesday.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090818/pl_nm/us_colombia_usa_1
Markets recover:
DJIA 9,282.03 +64.09 +0.70%
NASDAQ 1,967.54 +11.62 +0.59%
S&P 500 996.27 +6.60 +0.67%
RUT 559.92 +3.49 +0.63%
(Still a ways to go.)
O.K.
August 19th, 2009
3:20 pm
Midori is an aok blogger with a good head on her shoulders.
Self-deprecating humor is to be admired.
TnGelding
August 19th, 2009
3:24 pm
Bottom line, even by Bush’s account he didn’t complete his obligation to the Texas ANG and left the state before receiving his discharge orders. He was also grounded for failing to take a required physical. It would be hard to conclude that he didn’t receive special treatment from beginning to end.
Dave R.
August 19th, 2009
3:26 pm
Gee, Taxcheat, maybe I’m missing something here.
You post an erroneous claim about Bush.
I debunk it with facts.
You ignore those facts, and deny you posted an erroneous claim about Bush.
I point out the denial by using your own erroneous post, and you still deny you did it.
What part am I missing?
eagle scout
August 19th, 2009
3:26 pm
Dave R….I hate to break it to you, but Dan Bartlett (Bush’s Spokesman) told the news media the REASON Bush did not show up for his flight physical was because he was in Alabama and his personal physician was in Texas. Anyone who has ever been on flight status in the armed forces knows that your personal physician does not administer flight physicals this is done by a “flight surgeon!” Bush was assigned to Maxwell AFB…Where there would be plenty of flight surgeons available. In other words Bartlett lied, or didn’t know what he was talking about.
Dusty
August 19th, 2009
3:28 pm
What do ya mean ‘WHERE ARE THE ANTI-WAR PROTESTORS?” Right here. Bookman carries right on. Never let a bomb go off that he doesn’t blame our troops Yeah.
“Iraq:When the best we can do isn’t very good” so moans Bookman as he sobs into his white flag.
Yes, sir, that will make our troops who have won the war in Iraq feel real good. Just because our military gave freedom to a whole country, Bookman is going to tell us how it is no good. And all his loyal complainers fall in behind him. Makes those laying down their lives in Afghanistan feel special also.
Did you dingbats ever realize that you CAN support American troops instead of the terrorist types? Don’t give me that old “I support the troops but I don’t like war.” What a pure cop out. You wouldn’t have a country if we hadn’t had a war.
Here we have a bunch of apologizing complaining sissies. It is pitiful.
———————————————————————-
Note to RedNeck Convert,
If you plan to strip nekked for security, please give me time to run.. There are some sights that no human should be forced to observe.
we report
August 19th, 2009
3:28 pm
How about that public option with the health care bill? Sebelius sure killed that bill.
Move On is livid: http://publicoptionisto.org/?a=30-Omdmxlx
Jake
August 19th, 2009
3:28 pm
Can we verify his MOS and whether or not he actually strapped in and took off in one of those F4’s? Just leaving the ground one time would be infinity X what Bookman’s done for his country!
Dave R.
August 19th, 2009
3:29 pm
Doggone, when that happens, such an ice age will . . . wait for it . . . COOL OFF THE PLANET even further, which will debunk the whole man-made global warming thing once an for all, as we will have done nothing to stop it from cooling off, just as we have done nothing to warm it up.
Laura Bush
August 19th, 2009
3:29 pm
George W Bush is a great man so SHUT UP you bunch of punks.
crush censored, waaaahh
August 19th, 2009
3:30 pm
“Gee, Taxcheat, maybe I’m missing something here.
You post an erroneous claim about Bush.
I debunk it with facts.
You ignore those facts, and deny you posted an erroneous claim about Bush.
I point out the denial by using your own erroneous post, and you still deny you did it.
What part am I missing?’
At least Bookman pulled crush’s bs.
Big Pimpin
August 19th, 2009
3:30 pm
YO!! Dont hate the playa, hate the game.
AmVet
August 19th, 2009
3:30 pm
Yep, what this country needs are a few more heroes (or is it drunks and smackheads?) who’ll risk everything to jump to the front of the line to get into that amazingly dangerous Texas ANG.
And a whole lot less of those guys who sailed up and down the firefight laden Mekong River in order to get a few bandaid Purple Hearts.
Especially if you’re gonna be the “War President”.
Courage, valor and heroism Republiconned style.
That any of these blithering idiots still tries to play that yellow Bush/Cheney/Chambliss card is pathetic…
Bosch
August 19th, 2009
3:30 pm
So, all this, and still I wonder why in the hell are we there?
Bosch
August 19th, 2009
3:31 pm
Luckovich needs to run his “Why” cartoon again.
RW-(the original)
August 19th, 2009
3:32 pm
Three million Iraqi hookers have hit the streets???
That’s a new one.
Booger Bandit
August 19th, 2009
3:33 pm
Obama is to politics as the Pontiac Aztek is to a fine luxury automobile.
Bosch
August 19th, 2009
3:33 pm
Dusty,
You and I have seeminly been getting along so well lately, but I have to ask about this:
“You wouldn’t have a country if we hadn’t had a war.”
Really?
reality
August 19th, 2009
3:33 pm
Might as well talk about Bush’s military service. Sure can’t talk about obama’s.
Captain Underpants
August 19th, 2009
3:34 pm
Are you saying we can turn Obama in via the cash for clunkers program?
AmVet
August 19th, 2009
3:35 pm
To further that though, think about the fact that the only combat-tested veterans of any note in the GOP in the past 10 years or so have all been disowned: Dole, McCain and Hagel.
Are there ANY others?
Seriously?
And the chest pounders in the 101st Chariborne think they are the party that can defend this nation.
When really all they can do is needlessly spill other American’s blood…
Dave R.
August 19th, 2009
3:35 pm
Eagle Scout, I hate to break it to you, but that doesn’t prove he wasn’t attending his training. Remember, I don’t know if he did or didn’t, and the point I’m trying to make is, neither do you, nor does the Taxcheat.
If CBS news can’t find the proof (especially with their use of likely forged documents), given their unholy bias against Bush, Republicans and conservatives in general, then the issue will always be one of speculation, and not proven.
Which is why Taxcheat and Crush will forever be wrong when they claim as an absolute that Bush didn’t attend Guard training.
yo
August 19th, 2009
3:36 pm
“YO!! Dont hate the playa, hate the game.”
Fo realz.
Bosch
August 19th, 2009
3:36 pm
Oh, and kudos to Barney Frank for giving it back to the yellers. “Dining room table” — snort. Good one Barney.
wow
August 19th, 2009
3:39 pm
“When really all they can do is needlessly spill other American’s blood…’
Your president obama is doing that. Ask Cindy Sheehan.
Jackie
August 19th, 2009
3:42 pm
@TnGelding
If Dubya can produce a DD214 and a pilot’s license for the time he was in ANG training in Alabama, it will prove he completed his training, otherwise, he was AWOL.
lol
August 19th, 2009
3:42 pm
“Are you saying we can turn Obama in via the cash for clunkers program?”
No, it has to be made in the US.
AmVet
August 19th, 2009
3:43 pm
And I have excoriated BHO repeatedly wow wimp.
But you and the same sentiment about your hero of the Texas ANG?
Of course not.
You thought it was all find and dandy while other kids were dying so you could sit on the couch and eat bon bons.
And (assuming you’re old enough) you likely voted for that lying little pr!ck. Twice.
Good job, cowardly conned…
Taxpayer
August 19th, 2009
3:44 pm
Dave R.
August 19th, 2009
3:26 pm
Gee, Taxcheat, maybe I’m missing something here.
You post an erroneous claim about Bush.
I debunk it with facts.
You ignore those facts, and deny you posted an erroneous claim about Bush.
I point out the denial by using your own erroneous post, and you still deny you did it.
What part am I missing?
Hint number one – My moniker is not taxcheat. It is simply one of many pigments of your imagination.
Hint number two – I never once mentioned CBS or Dan Rather, you did.
Try again, son.
Dusty
August 19th, 2009
3:44 pm
Pstttt.. boschie,
I refer to the Revolutionary War. That one. George Washington? The British? Where were you when they passed out American history?
(Taxi & Doggie…please don’t say that we lost that one and you have proof that we surely did lose.)
Laura Bush
August 19th, 2009
3:44 pm
President Bush will produce what he wants when he wants and you will do nothing about it. So PUNKS…SHUT UP!
Dave R.
August 19th, 2009
3:44 pm
Yeah, Bosch, it’s always great to yell at your constituents when they are right, isn’t it?
Of course, when your district is gerrymandered to ensure your reelection every two years, you really don’t have to listen to opposing views, do you?
RW-(the original)
August 19th, 2009
3:45 pm
It is incomprehensible that investigative journalists could get so much wrong about a story without a malicious intent to deceive the American people. How is it possible that LWM investigative journalists didn’t inform the American people that there was “no waiting list” to get into the Texas Air National Guard (147th Fighter Interceptor Group [FIG]) as a pilot in May 1968? ( p.46 -47 ) How is it possible that the American people weren’t informed that F-102 pilots from GWB’s unit were flying combat missions in Vietnam at the very time George W Bush (GWB) applied for pilot duty and that President Bush (while in the ANG) volunteered for service in Vietnam? ( p.130 ) As you review the LWM hoaxes below, you should appreciate that Dan Rather’s CBS 60 Minutes was just the tip of iceberg of the fraud perpetrated by media on the American people in an effort to defeat a sitting President of the United States.
Paul
August 19th, 2009
3:48 pm
Crushing 3:13
Do you approve of the Executive not being able to get such information without a warrant, yet any Congressman can demand any information from any company any time they want?
Doggone/GA
Not bored now, I trust?
You may remember some discussed a certain presentation concerning global warming. I think this particular presentation should be required viewing or listening prior to any discussions.
http://www.byub.org/talks/Talk.aspx?id=2994
Bosch
With this administration and its supporters with blinders, it’s more like ‘why not?’
Regarding Barney: we had a town hall here last night. Really nice. People were polite, respectful, lots of concerns and questions appropriately stated. Congressman’s a doctor. He’s also holding separate meetings with owners of small businesses.
Sen Dick Durbin, Dem and Senate Majority Whip, won’t meet with his constituents. With courage like that….
pollster
August 19th, 2009
3:48 pm
New crushing the pubts obama poll just in!
For obama: 120%
Against obama:-30%
Dave R.
August 19th, 2009
3:48 pm
Taxcheat, I don’t care what you want to be called. Get over it.
Two. You claimed that Bush didn’t attend his Guard training. That claim has never been proven. I pointed out to you that even CBS could not prove it.
I simply pointed out to you that your claim has never been proven.
Get over it.
Bosch
August 19th, 2009
3:49 pm
Dave R.,
No, I’m with him – if someone actually stands up and starts in with the “Nazi” crap – they deserve what they get.
Dusty,
Yeah, I know about THAT war, but I don’t think we NEED war and should celebrate war just because we’re a country and all.
RollerGirl
August 19th, 2009
3:49 pm
Democratic Party ratings plummet
The percentage of Americans who hold a favorable view of the Democratic Party has slipped below 50 percent for the first time since President Barack Obama took office, according to a new Pew Research Center poll released Wednesday.
Only 49 percent of Americans now hold a favorable view of the Democratic Party, down from 62 percent in the same poll shortly after Obama assumed office. Democratic favorable ratings hovered around 60 percent as recently as April
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/26262.html#ixzz0OezYw9Pi
Paul
August 19th, 2009
3:51 pm
RW-(the original) 3:35
Facts are such pesky things….
Bosch
August 19th, 2009
3:51 pm
Paul,
If I could stick my tongue out at you right now I would. Okay, summer’s over and I’m off to work doing the duties I put off all summer.
Play nice kids.
RollerGirl
August 19th, 2009
3:52 pm
Congressional Job Approval
RCP Average
Approve30.3
Disapprove60.0
Generic Congressional Vote
RCP Average
Democrats43.3
Republicans42.5
Direction of Country
RCP Average
Right Direction39.0
Wrong Track55.0
Dems should be rocking huge numbers, afterall, they could pass this on their own, they have the numbers in the congress..but instead they have fallen back even..and heading lower:)
Bart S.
August 19th, 2009
3:52 pm
Dave R, and I’m still wondering why Bush didn’t prove he WAS there. Not saying you’re wrong or right, just wondering. Daddy can prove it in five minutes. Why wouldn’t a man running for President be willing to prove it?
Dusty
August 19th, 2009
3:52 pm
boschie,
I refer to the Revolutionary War when I say we wouldn’t have a country without war. You remember. Georgie Washington? The British? Ring a bell??
(Taxi & Doggie…Do me a favor and don’t say you have proof that we lost that war and Washington was a loser. OK?)
Bosch
August 19th, 2009
3:53 pm
Roller Girl,
Sad thing about those polls are – GOP numbers ain’t gone up.
Dave R.
August 19th, 2009
3:53 pm
Bosch, except that it was the National Socialist Party in Germany (that would be the NAZI’s to you), who took over the health care system of their country.
Sorry, but history says you and Barney are wrong on this one.
CHRIS
August 19th, 2009
3:56 pm
Lets leave now why wait?
Dusty
August 19th, 2009
3:57 pm
Sorry about the double post @3:52. I got an error report saying it did not go through the first time.. Oh well….
Dave R.
August 19th, 2009
3:58 pm
Bart, I’m with you. I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy of the lunatic fringe on both sides here. This is no different than the birthers and President Hope & Change. Both sides could and should have released everything they had to prove their points. That they didn’t shows that both Presidents miscalculated the public’s desire to know more about them.
Taxpayer
August 19th, 2009
3:58 pm
Dave R.
August 19th, 2009
3:35 pm
Eagle Scout, I hate to break it to you, but that doesn’t prove he wasn’t attending his training. Remember, I don’t know if he did or didn’t, and the point I’m trying to make is, neither do you, nor does the Taxcheat.
If CBS news can’t find the proof (especially with their use of likely forged documents), given their unholy bias against Bush, Republicans and conservatives in general, then the issue will always be one of speculation, and not proven.
Which is why Taxcheat and Crush will forever be wrong when they claim as an absolute that Bush didn’t attend Guard training.
Then again, there will also always apparently be what you claim to be what I wrote versus reality, i.e., what I really wrote. And, of course there is your on-going inability to address me by my actual moniker, a sign of insolence and disrespect. Not that I had any higher expectations for you though. Now, keep trying son.
Taxpayer
August 19th, 2009
4:01 pm
Dusty
August 19th, 2009
3:44 pm
Pstttt.. boschie,
I refer to the Revolutionary War. That one. George Washington? The British? Where were you when they passed out American history?
(Taxi & Doggie…please don’t say that we lost that one and you have proof that we surely did lose.)
I would not dream of challenging your likely first-hand knowledge, Dusty.