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		<title>By: TnGelding</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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August 15th, 2009
12:23 pm

Yeah, Frist was the odd man out in the discussion. He&#039;s in it for the money, but who can blame him. I like Dr. Weil&#039;s approach</description>
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12:23 pm</p>
<p>Yeah, Frist was the odd man out in the discussion. He&#8217;s in it for the money, but who can blame him. I like Dr. Weil&#8217;s approach</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I report thinks that ERs treat the majority of medical problems for immigrants legal or illegal or the rest of the population uninsured or insured, he doesn&#039;t have a clue as to what medicine is, or what ERs are equipped to do and never will.  ERs don&#039;t handle chronic care continuity--never have and never will.  The physicians don&#039;t have the time, and most of them aren&#039;t trained in those areas anyway--and they have enough to do handling emergencies, major and minor.  And the charity hospitals, most of which bear the brunt of clinical training of med students and residents like Grady are all in crisis and losing money right and left--and you don&#039;t pay for much of it I report as you implied you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I report thinks that ERs treat the majority of medical problems for immigrants legal or illegal or the rest of the population uninsured or insured, he doesn&#8217;t have a clue as to what medicine is, or what ERs are equipped to do and never will.  ERs don&#8217;t handle chronic care continuity&#8211;never have and never will.  The physicians don&#8217;t have the time, and most of them aren&#8217;t trained in those areas anyway&#8211;and they have enough to do handling emergencies, major and minor.  And the charity hospitals, most of which bear the brunt of clinical training of med students and residents like Grady are all in crisis and losing money right and left&#8211;and you don&#8217;t pay for much of it I report as you implied you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Crushing the pubt's</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to Healthcare reform, the immigration issue is miniscule.  We have pushing 308 million people.  Illegal immigrants are about 10 million or so of them.  It&#039;s as usual one of the tangential red herrings the right uses because they don&#039;t understand health or care or insurance or hospitals.  Malpractice insurance is the other. Sure it&#039;s too expensive but the major problem is the cost of health insurance for individuals or companies of any size.

And not all right wing whackjobs are affluent so they lose insurance and jobs and health care as well.

430 people in Georgia lose their insurance coverage every day--7 days a week.  Two insurance companies dominate 94% of the United States.  No one on the right understands the impact of those etwo figures.  Coops have zero impact on insurance costs, and health care catastrophes are the #2 cause of bankruptcy in this country.  You may think you have an extra 200 grand stashed aw&#039;ay for that rainy day, but I know most of you don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to Healthcare reform, the immigration issue is miniscule.  We have pushing 308 million people.  Illegal immigrants are about 10 million or so of them.  It&#8217;s as usual one of the tangential red herrings the right uses because they don&#8217;t understand health or care or insurance or hospitals.  Malpractice insurance is the other. Sure it&#8217;s too expensive but the major problem is the cost of health insurance for individuals or companies of any size.</p>
<p>And not all right wing whackjobs are affluent so they lose insurance and jobs and health care as well.</p>
<p>430 people in Georgia lose their insurance coverage every day&#8211;7 days a week.  Two insurance companies dominate 94% of the United States.  No one on the right understands the impact of those etwo figures.  Coops have zero impact on insurance costs, and health care catastrophes are the #2 cause of bankruptcy in this country.  You may think you have an extra 200 grand stashed aw&#8217;ay for that rainy day, but I know most of you don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TN Gelding--

When I get a minute I&#039;ll look for a stream of that discussion you want to find.  One that I DVR&#039;d but is probably on the web for money is a great one where Dr. Dean debated Dr. Frist for an hour and Dean wiped the floor with Bill Frist.  Frist had no answer as to why he financially hamstrung Medicare by prohibiting competitive bidding for medication the way St. Joe, Northside, Piedmont, Emory, and every big hospital in Atlanta and nation wide does.  Frist&#039;s hospital Vanderbilt does it 

In that debate Bill Frist thoracic surgeon sounded about as well informed as Katy Abram airhead.

Someone email ole Katy and tell her that the framers of the Constitution had things set up so that she had NO vote.  They were prescient.  They knew she would complain about taxes being raised but she pays no taxes because she has no income because she has no job.

And somehow, I don&#039;t see ole Katy selling a book of her pithy nonsense and making money unless she were to partner with Palin and the title was &quot;ramblings of two nutbags--letters from the whackjob fringe on how our world is being turned upside down.&quot;  I know they want their racism back, but they never lost it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TN Gelding&#8211;</p>
<p>When I get a minute I&#8217;ll look for a stream of that discussion you want to find.  One that I DVR&#8217;d but is probably on the web for money is a great one where Dr. Dean debated Dr. Frist for an hour and Dean wiped the floor with Bill Frist.  Frist had no answer as to why he financially hamstrung Medicare by prohibiting competitive bidding for medication the way St. Joe, Northside, Piedmont, Emory, and every big hospital in Atlanta and nation wide does.  Frist&#8217;s hospital Vanderbilt does it </p>
<p>In that debate Bill Frist thoracic surgeon sounded about as well informed as Katy Abram airhead.</p>
<p>Someone email ole Katy and tell her that the framers of the Constitution had things set up so that she had NO vote.  They were prescient.  They knew she would complain about taxes being raised but she pays no taxes because she has no income because she has no job.</p>
<p>And somehow, I don&#8217;t see ole Katy selling a book of her pithy nonsense and making money unless she were to partner with Palin and the title was &#8220;ramblings of two nutbags&#8211;letters from the whackjob fringe on how our world is being turned upside down.&#8221;  I know they want their racism back, but they never lost it.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Report--

You can get some dry panties now.  See my post @11:57PM last nite.  Obama rolled over and has made agreements with Big Pharma and the hospital lobby.  They are scuttling any meaningful reform.  I outlined it.  They are letting the idiots who represent 2.77% of the US who turn tricks for the insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies write the bill that will probably be adopted by the Conference Committee. 

The only thing stopping them is the House.  Something tells me the House might tell Rahm where he can stuff his rolling over since what they&#039;re doing is saying the House is irrelevant and five old men and one old woman who are in the pocket of pharma and insurance and the hospital lobby can do what they want--who as I said represent 2.77% of the US population.

So all this angry rambling might be fun for you, but it&#039;s wasted time.  Obama has rolled over.  Obama is more conservative than Bush when it comes to signing statements and his positions in the federal appellate system on state secrets, imprisonment without charges for life with no access to discovery or trials, so life should be good for you. 

Insurance rates in Georgia will go up to an average of 21,000 a family.  Some of the meds you will need when you get older in all probability will range in cost from $4-7 a pill.

If and when someone close to you gets a significant illness, particularly one that requires expensive procedures or surgery, you&#039;ll be dropped and left to do the surgery on your own--that&#039;s a picture I&#039;d like to frame or enroll in Christian Science 101.

Obama is rolling over and letting Senate Finance write the bill.ed As far as the left is concernumed, he&#039;s becoming .Ochumpo.

People still won&#039;t VOTE for any of the whackjobs you put up, but we won&#039;t be giving  moneyand campaigninng hard door for him since he lied about civil liberties and he lied about a public option

Here&#039;s a question--what about the bill that Senate Finance is writing do you find objectionable since it is going to make meaningless coops that have not a scintilla impact on insurance premiums and will insure that people die in droves because they can&#039;t get healthcare.  I thought death made Republicans happy.  It&#039;s their best product.  Coops are the new Death Squads.

If any of you can tell me specifically what about Senate Finance&#039;s bill which trashes every campaign promise Obama made bothers you, I&#039;d like to see it. i   Most of you are two weeks behind.  You&#039;re still into yellin&#039; at your TV or you&#039;re Youtube with Katy Abram--noted constitutional scholar and health care genius.


  It should be slightly interesting political theater when Waxman and the rest of the House realize all those late night sessions count for nothing.  I don&#039;t expect them to go quietly, and somehow I don&#039;t expect people from the House who aren&#039;t Blue Dogs to roll over in conference.</description>
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<p>You can get some dry panties now.  See my post @11:57PM last nite.  Obama rolled over and has made agreements with Big Pharma and the hospital lobby.  They are scuttling any meaningful reform.  I outlined it.  They are letting the idiots who represent 2.77% of the US who turn tricks for the insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies write the bill that will probably be adopted by the Conference Committee. </p>
<p>The only thing stopping them is the House.  Something tells me the House might tell Rahm where he can stuff his rolling over since what they&#8217;re doing is saying the House is irrelevant and five old men and one old woman who are in the pocket of pharma and insurance and the hospital lobby can do what they want&#8211;who as I said represent 2.77% of the US population.</p>
<p>So all this angry rambling might be fun for you, but it&#8217;s wasted time.  Obama has rolled over.  Obama is more conservative than Bush when it comes to signing statements and his positions in the federal appellate system on state secrets, imprisonment without charges for life with no access to discovery or trials, so life should be good for you. </p>
<p>Insurance rates in Georgia will go up to an average of 21,000 a family.  Some of the meds you will need when you get older in all probability will range in cost from $4-7 a pill.</p>
<p>If and when someone close to you gets a significant illness, particularly one that requires expensive procedures or surgery, you&#8217;ll be dropped and left to do the surgery on your own&#8211;that&#8217;s a picture I&#8217;d like to frame or enroll in Christian Science 101.</p>
<p>Obama is rolling over and letting Senate Finance write the bill.ed As far as the left is concernumed, he&#8217;s becoming .Ochumpo.</p>
<p>People still won&#8217;t VOTE for any of the whackjobs you put up, but we won&#8217;t be giving  moneyand campaigninng hard door for him since he lied about civil liberties and he lied about a public option</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a question&#8211;what about the bill that Senate Finance is writing do you find objectionable since it is going to make meaningless coops that have not a scintilla impact on insurance premiums and will insure that people die in droves because they can&#8217;t get healthcare.  I thought death made Republicans happy.  It&#8217;s their best product.  Coops are the new Death Squads.</p>
<p>If any of you can tell me specifically what about Senate Finance&#8217;s bill which trashes every campaign promise Obama made bothers you, I&#8217;d like to see it. i   Most of you are two weeks behind.  You&#8217;re still into yellin&#8217; at your TV or you&#8217;re Youtube with Katy Abram&#8211;noted constitutional scholar and health care genius.</p>
<p>  It should be slightly interesting political theater when Waxman and the rest of the House realize all those late night sessions count for nothing.  I don&#8217;t expect them to go quietly, and somehow I don&#8217;t expect people from the House who aren&#8217;t Blue Dogs to roll over in conference.</p>
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		<title>By: TnGelding</title>
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		<dc:creator>TnGelding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a very interesting discussion, but I can&#039;t find it anywhere. Can anyone else?

Wolf Blitzer will be hosting tonight’s Larry King Live and the show is being called: “Health Care Reform: Fact vs. Fiction.” Sen. Bill Frist, Dr. Michael Roizen (Chief Wellness Officer at the Cleveland Clinic and the co-author of You: On a Diet with Dr. Oz) and Dr. J. James Rohack from the AMA are confirmed to join Dr. Weil on the panel.

Edited by: Staff/WeilForums on Aug 13, 2009 6:53:58 AM

&quot;Why I Am a Conservative on Health Care Reform&quot;

&quot;I appeared on Larry King Live Wednesday night to discuss health care reform with a panel of respected, high-profile physicians. I sounded the themes I wrote about in The Wrong Diagnosis: that Americans must change the content of health care, not just access to it, or we&#039;ll remain among the unhealthiest people in the developed world, and the costs will sink us.&quot;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andrew-weil-md/why-i-am-a-conservative-o_b_259869.html</description>
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<p>Wolf Blitzer will be hosting tonight’s Larry King Live and the show is being called: “Health Care Reform: Fact vs. Fiction.” Sen. Bill Frist, Dr. Michael Roizen (Chief Wellness Officer at the Cleveland Clinic and the co-author of You: On a Diet with Dr. Oz) and Dr. J. James Rohack from the AMA are confirmed to join Dr. Weil on the panel.</p>
<p>Edited by: Staff/WeilForums on Aug 13, 2009 6:53:58 AM</p>
<p>&#8220;Why I Am a Conservative on Health Care Reform&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I appeared on Larry King Live Wednesday night to discuss health care reform with a panel of respected, high-profile physicians. I sounded the themes I wrote about in The Wrong Diagnosis: that Americans must change the content of health care, not just access to it, or we&#8217;ll remain among the unhealthiest people in the developed world, and the costs will sink us.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andrew-weil-md/why-i-am-a-conservative-o_b_259869.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andrew-weil-md/why-i-am-a-conservative-o_b_259869.html</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Taxpayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps, all these pro-business Republicans in Congress should have thought about cracking down on all the illegally operating businesses, the ones hiring illegal immigrants, by making them pay for all the emergency room visits for their illegal employees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps, all these pro-business Republicans in Congress should have thought about cracking down on all the illegally operating businesses, the ones hiring illegal immigrants, by making them pay for all the emergency room visits for their illegal employees.</p>
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		<title>By: TnGelding</title>
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		<dc:creator>TnGelding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Report/ I Am The Mob :-) You Whine :-( 

August 15th, 2009
10:40 am

It depends on what type of hospital it is. That&#039;s one reason the immigration issue has to be addressed, but I suspect most of the patients are legal citizens.

http://www.newsobserver.com/1155/story/412836.html</description>
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<p>August 15th, 2009<br />
10:40 am</p>
<p>It depends on what type of hospital it is. That&#8217;s one reason the immigration issue has to be addressed, but I suspect most of the patients are legal citizens.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newsobserver.com/1155/story/412836.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsobserver.com/1155/story/412836.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Taxpayer</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see, 55% of Americans think that our health care will continue to get worse and all the Republicans propose that we leave it the way it is and the Independents that likely abandoned the Republican party in name only agree with that strategy.  Brilliant indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see, 55% of Americans think that our health care will continue to get worse and all the Republicans propose that we leave it the way it is and the Independents that likely abandoned the Republican party in name only agree with that strategy.  Brilliant indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: TnGelding</title>
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		<dc:creator>TnGelding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Report/ I Am The Mob :-) You Whine :-( 

August 15th, 2009
10:31 am

Let&#039;s take the high number of $200 billion, that&#039;s less than 10% of overall spending on health care. If you can &quot;treat&quot; it with drugs or cut it out, we&#039;re number one.

You might find these interesting:

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5206a2.htm

http://www.merck.com/mkgr/mmg/sec1/ch2/ch2c.jsp</description>
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<p>August 15th, 2009<br />
10:31 am</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take the high number of $200 billion, that&#8217;s less than 10% of overall spending on health care. If you can &#8220;treat&#8221; it with drugs or cut it out, we&#8217;re number one.</p>
<p>You might find these interesting:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5206a2.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5206a2.htm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.merck.com/mkgr/mmg/sec1/ch2/ch2c.jsp" rel="nofollow">http://www.merck.com/mkgr/mmg/sec1/ch2/ch2c.jsp</a></p>
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