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Rightwing Troll
August 9th, 2009
7:14 am
Number One Troll!!!!!
I Report/ Health Care Industry Plant/ Nazi :-) You Whine :-(
August 9th, 2009
7:31 am
Hey, this is kinda like the democrats running government.
Except they are drowning the entire US economy.
Let’s ban them, heh.
~~~~~
Let’s leave aside, for a moment, the estimated 47 million or so Americans who have no health insurance.-Queen Pinko, Urinal
It only took one paragraph for the Tuck Monster to shoot out her own credibility, unless of course, 12 million or so illegal immigrants will be receiving a free US citizenship with their “free” health care, but let’s read on-
A young, healthy construction worker falls off a ladder and ends up with hundreds of thousands in bills he cannot pay.
Um, ever heard of Worker’s Comp?
Or a middle-aged diabetic is laid off and finds herself skimping on doctor’s visits because she can no longer afford to go.
Um, ever heard of Medicaid? Schip?
Some of the tea-partiers may have little recent experience with private health insurance because, from the looks of them, many are covered by Medicare. Why would they object to allowing government to get more involved in health insurance for the rest of us, since they already enjoy the ~~~~~~~~~largess~~~~~~~~ of a government program?
Never used Medicare. Not once. Ever. But I pay for it every week. Money out of my paycheck. Taxes.
So did the “Tea Partyers.”
So where is the “competition” in this?
1.45% of all of your earnings, 2.9% if you are self employed, paid out every week for an average of 45 years, you could damn near buy a full blown group health insurance policy for every working year of your life and still have money left over to cover your retirement.
Instead, you send your hard earned money into the maw of the federal government, where fraud and abuse rule the day. For what? A half as-s rationed care system run like the Post Office available only for the last few years of your life?
This is the “choice” the libs are offering us?
Bah, thanks anyway.
Finn McCool
August 9th, 2009
7:41 am
1.45% of all of your earnings, 2.9% if you are self employed, paid out every week for an average of 45 years, you could damn near buy a full blown group health insurance policy for every working year of your life and still have money left over to cover your retirement.
You are clueless
Taxpayer
August 9th, 2009
7:41 am
So, this little portion of the healthcare bill that the conservative Republicans are all up in arms about because they think that Obama wants to turn them into Soylent Green to feed their kids is something that was introduced by a little known Republican Senator, Isakson, from Georgia. Good show, you bunch of Conservative Republican tools and your loyal following, fools for tools, for eating another of your own. Care for a little Grey Poupon.
Rightwing Troll
August 9th, 2009
8:00 am
Yeah, workmans comp is great. They pay you 50% of your lost wages, and tell what doctors to go to, even if that doctor is 40 miles away from you and you have to drive right by your doctor’s office to get there, hell they even schedule the appt for you. And BTW, if you pay for Aflac, and get hurt on the job, Aflac doesn’t cover that.
Yeah, workman’s comp indeed…
So, private insurance companies practice euthanasia on a daily basis by denying coverage to people of all ages, and republitrolls are twisting the current proposed legislation to say Obama is going to show up on your doorstep when you turn 65 to personally administer the end of life injection???
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Rightwing Troll
August 9th, 2009
8:04 am
“you could damn near buy a full blown group health insurance policy for every working year of your life and still have money left over to cover your retirement.”
Hmmmmmm…. how many of you self employed individuals (and I know not many of you are, because if you were you couldn’t troll here as much) have access to GROUP healthcare coverage??? Show of hands??? Oh wait there’s one, nevermind they were just stretching…
On the other hand, there’s an abundance of offereings for the self employed, some even hook you with decent rates… for the first year. Then, even if you didn’t use it at all, the rates mysteriously go up significantly…
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TnGelding
August 9th, 2009
8:07 am
The Associated Press
NEW YORK —The nation’s car dealers have a new worry: they’re running out of vehicles.
http://www.ajc.com/business/as-111418.html
Taxpayer
August 9th, 2009
8:14 am
I think IR/YW may be on to something big, really big, really really big, with his really big big concerns about insurance. As a matter of fact, I too have been forking over insurance payments for over 45 years without getting a dime of it in return so I feel his pain too (Not really, I just said that for effect. I would not wish that kind of pain on anyone… except maybe a conservative Republican or two or three…). The nerve of those insurance companies. I have a good mind to cancel my auto insurance and home insurance and life insurance. (Just kidding. The Republicans here in Georgia will not ged rid of that law about driving without insurance so I have to keep it. Those socialist fascists. But, that’s another story. Further, I don’t think that I’m really looking forward to any of my insurance policies needing to pay me back from claims but that’s just me, especially my life insurance policy, unless I happen to need them. That is what good insurance is all about, right. Unlike this crap that health insurance companies toss around and call health insurance.) Too bad I’m not old enough to be eligible for Medicare. If I were, I would sign up for that group insurance policy in a heartbeat.
I Report/ Health Care Industry Plant/ Nazi :-) You Whine :-(
August 9th, 2009
8:15 am
Workers’ compensation laws were enacted to reduce the need for litigation, and to mitigate the requirement that injured workers prove their injuries were their employer’s “fault”. The first state law was passed in Maryland in 1902, and the first law covering federal employees was passed in 1906. By 1949, all states had enacted some kind of workers’ compensation regime. Such schemes were originally known as “workman’s compensation,” but today, most jurisdictions have adopted the term “workers’ compensation” as a gender-neutral alternative.
In the United States, most employees who are injured on the job have an absolute right to medical care for any injury, and in many cases, monetary payments to compensate for resulting temporary or permanent disabilities. Most employers are ~~~~~~~~~~~required~~~~~~~~~~~ to subscribe to insurance for workers’ compensation, and an employer who does not may have financial penalties imposed.
Another brilliant government scheme, eh, Lord Help Us?
TnGelding
August 9th, 2009
8:15 am
I Report/ Health Care Industry Plant/ Nazi
You Whine 
August 9th, 2009
7:31 am
That construction worker might not be covered by Workman’s Comp, especially in this era of illegal and undergound economies.
Your Medicare analysis works well for a CEO making a mil a year, but for someone making a thou a week it doesn’t.
TnGelding
August 9th, 2009
8:21 am
“Obama to attend 3-nation summit in Mexico”
WASHINGTON (AP) – President Barack Obama will fly to Mexico for a two-day summit with the leaders of Mexico and Canada. The three men are expected to work on trade, immigration, drug trafficking and security issues, as well as clean energy. They’re also expected to discuss the swine flu pandemic and the economic crisis.
http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_PREVIEW?SITE=GACAT&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2009-08-09-05-23-41
(Excellent opportunity to regain public support.)
I Report/ Health Care Industry Plant/ Nazi :-) You Whine :-(
August 9th, 2009
8:22 am
Group Health For The Self-Employed
http://www.insurelane.com/group/group-self-employed.html
Blah, blah, blah.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
August 9th, 2009
8:29 am
Well, I bet they won’t last long if they turn this Whiner into food and try and eat him. It’d be so full of bile it would turn their belly inside out.
Anyhow, they got to votes to let the guvmint take over our health insurance, but they better leave my Medicare alone. What with it and my reglar insurance at work I don’t pay nothing for a Dr.
We’re packing up and getting ready to drive back to GA. I’ll sure miss going to the Church of Holiness this a.m., but you got to give up something if you want to go fishing. I reckon Bookman’s out for another round of golf. He don’t have to worry much about his blog. What with the Whiner and the TN guy, he’ll have plenty of posts. Have a good Sabbath everybody.
I Report/ Health Care Industry Plant/ Nazi :-) You Whine :-(
August 9th, 2009
8:30 am
Yes, I frequently see people falling over dead in the streets, their last words are always, evil health insurance company, eewww!
The streets are just slap full of corpses, our dire national emergency, shriek, shriek, scream, scream.
Show of hands, is anyone else here under the assisine impression that the federal government would step up and fill in the “holes” left out by the privates?
Without raising taxes?
Taxpayer
August 9th, 2009
8:32 am
Well, it looks like the conservative Republican war mongers are going to have to finally get on the bandwagon and support global warming (aka, climate change) initiatives after all. It’s the patriotic thing to do. It’s a matter of national security. So, are all you conservative Republicans out there with us or agin us.
jt
August 9th, 2009
8:37 am
What an arrogant POS.
Another democrat(in Georgia) attacked by the “mob”.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/back-story/2009/aug/08/georgia-democrat-rages-against-local-doctor-over-h/
AmVet
August 9th, 2009
8:44 am
It still slightly boggles my mind how the roles of the two major parties have reversed in such an amazingly short time.
Now that the GOP has suffered consecutive, record-breaking and humiliating losses, they’ve taken on the Democrats role as the “loyal opposition”.
But in nightmarish fashion.
As in the loyal opposition with virtually nothing but idiotic, outdated, already failed ideas and intentional misinformation, empty sloganeering and goofyassed, almost childish fear tactics and rhetoric. All in the hugely mistaken design to help their sorry and further dwindling chances.
Don’t get me wrong the GOP has in my lifetime, with very few exceptions, always been Party First, Party Last, Party Always. But now in absolute desperation for their very future they no longer even try to pretend to be rational and/or constructive.
Just pandering to fools with ammo and bibles. Venomous, afraid and dispirited they are “led” by very small men with even smaller ideas.
Boogie men everywhere. A homicidal Mooslim behind every bush (Gawd I remember the lunacy Buy Donut used to offer here!). Activist, terrorist-coddling baby killers wearing robes in every corner of the nation. Mexicalis taking away “good jobs”. Sodomites wanting to fornicate openly and pervert and subvert the godly. Average Americans under their corporate paymasters thumbs.
And to the derision of an enlightened people, Joe McCarthy, the socialist killer, is still one of their most valued paragons.
Unevolved and going slowly extinct.
I’m thrilled that their time of dying is here…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbsnVJUVdBI&feature=PlayList&p=6DBE003921A42FDD&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=23
Paul
August 9th, 2009
8:46 am
RW-(the original) 4:30something pm yesterday
[[And for those of us in a real time zone that would 9PM Sunday.
Real time zone? As in “Twilight Zone”?
For the rest of you, War Dogs of the Pacific. 9pm Atlanta (Twilight) Zone. Tonight.
Michael H. Smith
August 9th, 2009
8:46 am
After reading the sad sob stories from some of the Obumer-ites I am totally convinced Teddy Roosevelt was on the right track:
“I really do not know which quality is most productive of evil to mankind in the long run, hardness of heart or softness of head.”
Has anyone among the conservative flock asked the liberals, make that the “SOCIALIST” liberals, why only another government run healthcare program a.k.a. Public Option is the answer, the only thing that will work and it is the only thing acceptable?
There is not one thing I’ve seen or read to date that can answer that question satisfactorily.
HR 3200, KILL THE BILL!
Finn McCool
August 9th, 2009
8:53 am
I Report,
Where did you get those excellent math skills?
1.45% of all of your earnings, 2.9% if you are self employed
So, for low-end coverage that would cost you $2,000 a month out of pocket. At 1.45% you’d need to be making roughly $1.65 million a year.
Clueless. My middle-schooler could figure that out WITHOUT a calculator.
I’m sure all the readers on this blog are concerned with the trials and travails of the wealthiest 2% of the population. Aren’t you folks?
sniffle
sniffle
sniffle
TnGelding
August 9th, 2009
8:54 am
Redneck Convert (R–and proud of it)
August 9th, 2009
8:29 am
And a good Sabbath to you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2jdVeqXQNs&feature=related
Taxpayer
August 9th, 2009
8:56 am
Go find yourself a “SOCIALIST” liberal, Michael, and ask him your straw-man question. Get in his face if you feel lucky.
Michael H. Smith
August 9th, 2009
8:58 am
The Sabbath was yesterday.
Finn McCool
August 9th, 2009
8:59 am
why only another government run healthcare program a.k.a. Public Option is the answer, the only thing that will work and it is the only thing acceptable?
Maybe first you should ask: Do I understand this health care thing correctly? Am I clueless here? To answer those questions I, a very lib lib, would say:No. Yes.
They aren’t planning for the public option to be the only option. Maybe you start with that information and then read the bill again?
Kayaker 71
August 9th, 2009
9:00 am
We just don’t trust them, any of them. Congress, with it’s approval rating in the teens…. we don’t trust them. We never know when they are telling the truth, which interest group they are pandering to and how much money this interest group is going to give them to protect the group’s interests. They have the power to regulate illegal immigration but won’t do it for fear of angering the latino voting base. Yet close to 12-15M of these illegal felons are going to receive health care that I am going to have to pay for. When the Congress and it’s members enforce our borders to keep the freeloaders out and when they subscribe to Bozo’s health care plan and drop the coverage that they have, I’ll listen to this issue with a level head. Until then, stay tuned. I object to this, as well as I object to helping pay for someone’s car. Let them pay for their own car and keep the government out of it. The middle class taxpayer is staggering under this tax burden. And we weren’t going to raise taxes on them, “not one dime”. Yeah, right.
Michael H. Smith
August 9th, 2009
9:00 am
Oh I think I’ve found them, taxpayer and as suspected no answer.
Taxpayer
August 9th, 2009
9:03 am
Finn McCool gave you the correct answer to your strawman, Michael.
TnGelding
August 9th, 2009
9:07 am
jt
August 9th, 2009
8:37 am
The meeting wasn’t about health care. It was not a congressional town hall meeting. That is what had Scott upset.
“So what you’ve got to understand, those of you who are here, who have taken and came and hijacked this event we dealing with here, this is not a health care event. You made the choice to come here and take advantage of this meeting that these people in Douglasville worked hard to put together to deal with this road,” Scott said, referencing the relocation of a local highway in Douglassville, GA.
Someone had posted this video earlier:
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/07/video-democrat-screams-at-constituent-for-asking-tough-question-on-health-care/
Taxpayer
August 9th, 2009
9:08 am
We just don’t trust them
We! Meaning you and your little group of like-minded individuals that just happen to parrot Hannity, Rush, Beck, et al, to a tee. Whenever you feel like coming down to earth and talking facts instead of your fears and misplaced mis-trusts, we’re here for you, young man. Perhaps a little end of life counseling would help you and your party of NO.
Michael H. Smith
August 9th, 2009
9:08 am
I have read some of that 1,017 page monster Finn McCool, have you read the entire bill?
Now back to my central question. Why must there be another government run healthcare program to reform healthcare?
By the way McCool, I’m very much aware there is more than one Option being considered. One of them in the Senate, which would take government out of the picture is one that I do or will support if it is structured correctly.
Finn McCool
August 9th, 2009
9:10 am
Further examples of cluelessness:
The streets are just slap full of corpses, our dire national emergency, shriek, shriek, scream, scream.
You’ve never seen someone with cancer die in their own bed at home with no meds have you?
It’s obvious you’ve lived a protected life (I’m guessing a trust fund baby?) so, until you get out from under your parents wings and see how real people really live, your impressions, reflections, and observations are useless to anyone.
And no, seeing lots of movies doesn’t count.
Michael H. Smith
August 9th, 2009
9:11 am
Yeah, right taxpayer. No answer is the straw man argument.
jt
August 9th, 2009
9:12 am
TnGelding-
From what I understand, he asked for questions at the end of the TownHall.
Regardless, a rep should show courtesy to the people he works for.
Rightwing Troll
August 9th, 2009
9:15 am
BTW, I don’t care for the current proposals, nor do I think that Obama is proposing mandated euthanasia. However, our current system which is Private For Profit Insurance companies running our healthcare is as evil as ANY of the current proposals being discussed. Yah, I want what happened to wall street to happen to our healthcare system…
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jt
August 9th, 2009
9:15 am
I am sure that I am late on this too.
Not only are we getting “sold down the river”, we are being forced to PAY for our own trip.
“Yet there is real reason for longer-term worry in the form of a persistent, anecdotal drift toward disillusionment among some of the president’s supporters. And not merely those on the left. This concern was perhaps best articulated by an Obama voter, a real estate agent in Virginia, featured on the front page of The Washington Post last week. “Nothing’s changed for the common guy,” she said. “I feel like I’ve been punked.” She cited in particular the billions of dollars in bailouts given to banks that still “act like they’re broke.”
But this mood isn’t just about the banks, Public Enemy No. 1. What the Great Recession has crystallized is a larger syndrome that Obama tapped into during the campaign. It’s the sinking sensation that the American game is rigged — that, as the president typically put it a month after his inauguration, the system is in hock to “the interests of powerful lobbyists or the wealthiest few” who have “run Washington far too long.” He promised to smite them.”
The real crime is that these dispicable incumbants will probably get voted back in.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/09/opinion/09rich.html?ref=opinion
Angry Black Man
August 9th, 2009
9:16 am
Kayaker
In case you haven’t realized, they’re already getting healthcare that you, I, and all other working Americans are paying for. Take a trip to any emergency room at any hospital and check out the waiting area. Everyone’s got their gripes and beefs over “Healthcare Reform”. What I would like to see is the free market offer some type of insurance to those illegals so they cease to be part of the argument or problem. Then, someone else could market basic preventive care to those who can’t afford full coverage insurance. That would take care of most of the emergency room for routine medical problems taken care of. Then hospitals could focus more on what they should do.
Or the people here can decide that everything is too expensive, and quit seeking any type of medical services and cause the medical industry to collapse. Then we can rebuild it from scratch. Of course, there would be a few deaths from those who really need medical treatment now, but what’s a little sacrifice for the good of all?
AmVet
August 9th, 2009
9:16 am
71, have you been snoozing for the past three decades???
Of course the United States Congress is vilified!
Time after time after time and in case after case after case they have abdicated their responsibilities.
They no longer even pretend to be anything but a government of the General Motors, by the General Dynamics and for the General Electrics.
And under King George and his quasi-brain, Dickhead, it reached sublimely disgusted new heights, as the GOP led version of it was shamefully NOTHING but a rubber stamp for the Imperious One.
Did Georgie ever have to veto a bill? Did he ever not get his way? Did th Republican apparatchiks ever not march lockstep into a future of human suffering and economic ruin?
The blithering idiots on the conned side of the aisle even let him stage a war and then cheered while he botch it royally.
After months of screaming and wailing about mushroom clouds, 94% of them OK’d The Hero of the Texas ANG’s masterful plan of cooking the books, lying to the people of the nation and then executing a “plan” as bad as any ever conceived. Or as a real hero/GOP traitor, Chuck Hagel called it, “The worst foreign policy blunder in modern American history”.
And getting 4,330 Americans needlessly KIAed and untold gazillions of dollars wasted. All while their cronies and paymasters at Haliburton, KBR and BlackWater laughed all the way to the bank.
And to further the point of a spineless US Congress, in 2006 Pelosi/Reid/Obama gutlessly and repulsively took impeachment “off the table”.
Own it. You likely voted for that deadly non-conservative clown. Twice…
Taxpayer
August 9th, 2009
9:19 am
Has anyone among the conservative flock asked the liberals, make that the “SOCIALIST” liberals, why only another government run healthcare program a.k.a. Public Option is the answer, the only thing that will work and it is the only thing acceptable?
That was your original question, Michael. Do you really need me to spell out everything that is so wrong with that question from you. Finn has already done it but if you need me to re-iterate…
I Report/ Health Care Industry Plant/ Nazi :-) You Whine :-(
August 9th, 2009
9:20 am
Yawn-
FICA is the acronym for Federal Insurance Contributions Act. It generally requires employers to withhold Social Security and Medicare taxes from their employees’ wages (wages, salaries, commissions, bonuses, etc.) and to ~~~~~~~match the amounts withheld.~~~~~~~~
So now we are up to 5.8%.
Most people pay an average of 40 bucks a week for a group family plan through their employers. Individual policies can be $25. Let’s stick with the family plan.
52 times $40 equals $2080.
The IRS announced today (Rev. Proc. 2008-19) that the U.S. median gross income is $61,500.
$61,500 times .058 equals $3567.00
(What’s up with the 1.65 million that Finn McFool came up with? Is it not the “duties” of government to educate it’s citizens? What a fine job they are doing of it too, eh?)
Like I said, money left over.
And what bigger group is there than the self employed?
I rule.
Get rid of Medicare, fund EVERYBODY’S health insurance.
@@
August 9th, 2009
9:21 am
I saw, at least, a part of the David Scott townhall. The constituents in attendance were very well behaved. Made me proud since it’s my district. Anyhoo….the Dr. of which jt speaks?
A black doctor who received an exuberant round of applause before exiting the meeting. I guess he realized Congressman Scott wasn’t planning on listening.
Why don’t we arrange to have living wills executed at the time of driver’s license renewals?
We do it with organ donations.
The older generations are owed healthcare because they’ve spent their entire life paying for it. Now that the parasites (yup…that would be you leftists) realize the money’s not there, you want to allow the government to dispose of those who BELIEVED in their government’s commitment.
It’s kinda like saying “YOU ain’t getting what you paid for ’cause WE need it more.”
Absolutely disgusting! But HEY!!!! Obama’s put an advocate for YOU in his cabinet. Ezekiel Emanuel:
“When implemented, the Complete Lives System produces a priority curve on which individuals aged between roughly 15 and 40 years get the most substantial chance, whereas the youngest and oldest people get chances that are attenuated. The Complete Lives System justifies preference to younger people because of priority to the worst-off rather than instrumental value.”
Emanuel elaborated a method for selecting which sections of the population should be denied health care first, in an article entitled, tellingly, “Principles for Allocation of Scarce Medical Interventions.” The article was published in the British medical journal Lancet, dated Jan. 31, 2009, which was just 11 days after Barack Obama’s inauguration. On March 19, Emanuel was appointed to the Federal Coordinating Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research, to begin the design of a Federal system for withdrawing care from those chosen for death.
Ezekiel Emanuel, whose brother Rahm Emanuel is the President’s chief of staff, describes in the article his method of “Complete Lives System”: It “produces a priority curve on which individuals aged between roughly 15 and 40 years get the most substantial chance, whereas the youngest and oldest people get chances that are attenuated.” This may be justified by public opinion, since “broad consensus favors adolescents over very young infants, and young adults over very elderly people.” He goes on to explain cold-bloodedly why the “death of a 20-year-old woman is intuitively worse than that of a 2-month-old girl,” etc., in a clinical exercise of psywar.
You leftists want the government to do your dirty work for you. During times of crisis (more demand, less resources (money) — Dr. Emanuel’s eugenicist policies will become reality. We are experiencing that crisis right now. Who’s to say we won’t be experiencing it again in the future? You’d have to be an idiot to think it’s not possible. What’s that Rahm Emanuel said…..”Never let a crisis go to waste.”
Just the old folks.
Again…….DISGUSTING!!!!
Michael H. Smith
August 9th, 2009
9:24 am
Everyone’s got their gripes and beefs over “Healthcare Reform”. What I would like to see is the free market offer some type of insurance to those illegals so they cease to be part of the argument or problem.
Everybody as in individuals expressing their concerns sounds like America to me. The illegal alien problem is simply to solve: Government enforcing the laws on the books, instead of trying the change those laws or ignore them in granting amnesty by default.
jconservative
August 9th, 2009
9:24 am
Folks, if you are under 45 you are in big trouble down the road.
But that is OK I guess. You will keep voting to send the same old tired liberal Republican senators & congressmen to Washington that you have been doing for the past 29 years. And you will keep electing the same liberal presidents that you have been doing for the past 49 years.
I say again, stop voting for incumbents. The last 29 years of voting for incumbents has resulted in a $11.0 trillion increase in the national debt – $11,660,142,454,203.95, The National Debt on 8/6/09.
The national debt was $650 billion when Carter left office. After 20 years of liberal Republican presidents & 8 1/2 years of liberal Democratic presidents we have an $11 trillion increase in the national debt.
Thank you incumbents. (You did not re-elect Bush 41 so we can give him a pass on this.)
You get what you vote for & this is what you have voted yourself.
Pat yourself on the back.
Michael H. Smith
August 9th, 2009
9:27 am
Get rid of Medicare, fund EVERYBODY’S health insurance.
A little rash don’t you think? How about creating something a bit more rational and transition people dependent on Medicare into that better healthcare model as the solution?
Taxpayer
August 9th, 2009
9:29 am
BTW, I don’t care for the current proposals, nor do I think that Obama is proposing mandated euthanasia.
He’s not. The “mandated euthanasia”, as the scared right wing nuts put it, was introduced by a Georgia Republican Senator named Isakson. So, the only thing that these conservative Republicans need to fear is themselves. That ‘look’ that they get from fellow conservative Republicans is more along the lines of the look from the witch in Hansel and Gretel. Just wondering if all those hormones that they have been fed are doing their job. Ewwwwww. Conservative Republicans are such Hannibals. Always lecturing people about their vices and feeding off their own hypocrisies.
Kayaker 71
August 9th, 2009
9:29 am
Amvet,
Bushie is gone, or haven’t you noticed? That still doesn’t, and won’t, take away the trust issue. Congress is a self-serving group of incompetents who want us to believe that they can manage an industry which represents 20% of our GNP not to mention the bloated government agencies that it would take to manage this fiasco. Most of these jerks couldn’t talk on their cell phone and take a leak at the same time. And we in our 70s and over are supposed to turn over our health care system to these outstanding examples of management? Not in your wildest dreams, young man, not in your wildest dreams.
@@
August 9th, 2009
9:31 am
TnG:
A townhall meeting does not have an agenda. It’s not a FORMAL meeting. As much as you don’t like it, people can address whatever they choose. It’s their right.
Taxpayer
August 9th, 2009
9:40 am
I Report/ Health Care Industry Plant/ Nazi
You Whine 
August 9th, 2009
9:20 am
I see you have conveniently changed your original hypothesis from funding your hypothetical insurance with the 1.45% withholding to funding it with 5.8%. Is that your way of adjusting for inflation.
jt
August 9th, 2009
9:40 am
jconservative -
The good thing about having such “old” incumbants is that they can be more easily proved culpable for our nations distress.
Just ONE ex post facto conviction of malfeseance would start the ball running.
Where is our Robespierre?
Normal
August 9th, 2009
9:41 am
are there any “Astro Turfer” on this blog? I don’t get what I’m reading here. I give to charities what I can just to do a little something to help out, but I know my contributions won’t help many. I have always wished that I could win a large lottery, take out what I would need to live and divide the rest among charities. What are the odds of that though?
But with this healtcare thing, I see it helping everybody. If I have to pay a little more taxes, to help out…well, so be it. I would be helping more people that way than giving to a charity.
People, like it or not, we were put on this earth to learn certain lessons and one of them is Love thy neighbor…just sayin’
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August 9th, 2009
9:41 am
Taxman:
I’ll say Isakson didn’t foresee the unintended consequences — not uncommon in politician’s and leftists.
Politicians WANT to do SOMETHING and leftists NEED them to.