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TnGelding
July 28th, 2009
10:29 pm
We Don’t Need No Steenking Government
July 28th, 2009
10:04 pm
Is that before or after she writes her book?
TnGelding
July 28th, 2009
10:42 pm
Pogo
July 28th, 2009
5:30 pm
Please don’t include Rangle with Pelosi and Reid. He’s at least a notch or two above them, but certainly not perfect.
TnGelding
July 28th, 2009
10:47 pm
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July 28th, 2009
6:36 pm
…and one person is obsessed with polls!
TnGelding
July 28th, 2009
11:02 pm
Finn McCool
July 28th, 2009
7:47 pm
Don’t be so harsh. It’s just the way things are done now. We need more people to show the dedication and willingness to work hard to start a business. I knew from an early age I didn’t want to deal with the red tape, not to mention the personnel problems. We simply must make it easier and cheaper to start and run a business so we can compete in the global economy. And health insurance mandates do just the opposite.
TnGelding
July 28th, 2009
11:09 pm
md
July 28th, 2009
8:22 pm
But too many of us, for whatever reason, aren’t in a state of mind to make the right choices. And by helping those that need help, we are also supporting the many small business owners, and large ones as well.
TnGelding
July 28th, 2009
11:13 pm
We Don’t Need No Steenking Government
July 28th, 2009
10:04 pm
Very entertaining stuff! Sleep well, but get that blank-eating grin off of your face!
TnGelding
July 28th, 2009
11:20 pm
Looks like everyone checked out. Tomorrow is another day. Night all.
“Democrats Say House May Miss Deadline on Health Care”
“It doesn’t look like it to me,” House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles Rangel said in an interview. “I really hoped that we could have gotten a bill out of here by now,” he said, adding that he has a “heavy political heart.”
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=am77.VJg3JqU
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
July 29th, 2009
5:17 am
This is the liberal democrats goal with your money, summed up succinctly-
“We are going to look for the most expedient way to spend the money,” said Peggy Harper, chair of the board overseeing the city’s $53 million Renewal Community. “The goal of the board is to not send any money back.”-Urinal
They don’t even care anymore.
Bosch
July 29th, 2009
5:39 am
Good morning Andy. I’m waiting on my insurance company to call back – a tree fell through my house about an hour ago. You wake up early! It takes a giant oak falling through my bedroom to get me up this early!
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
July 29th, 2009
6:17 am
Bosch- I do more before 7 a.m. than most people do all day, or something like that.
Sorry about the oak.
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
6:51 am
Well, I do more before 5 am then most folks do before 4 am and it is all cuz most folks is asleep whilst I am out hunting for breakfast. Squirrel, anyone.
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
July 29th, 2009
6:51 am
This has been demonstrated in the real world with capital gains taxes in recent decades. Since the 1960s, capital gains taxes have been cut 3 times and raised 3 times. Every time they have been cut, capital gains revenues have actually increased. Every time they have been raised, capital gains revenues have fallen.-AmSpec
So where do the liberals take us now? Less revenue, that’s where!
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
6:58 am
Let me see if I gots this new amspec[ial] math strait now. Ifin the govment taxes me fer 10 parcent of my take home, they git about two legs worth off that squirrel I cooked up this morning but ifin they taxes me at zero parcent, they gits the whole danged squirrel. Hell, I’d ruther pay the ten parcent.
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
7:12 am
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July 29th, 2009
5:17 am
Republican local governments take and spend the borrowed funds, too. It’s become the way in the USA. That’s why so much power has been relinquished to Congress and the executive branch. They control the purse strings. It started with the feds taking over the National Guard.
I didn’t know this:
Title 10 of the US Code states:
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 16 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
National Defense Act of 1916
This act abandoned the idea of an expandable Regular Army and firmly established the traditional concept of the citizens’ army as the keystone of the United States defense forces. It established the concept of merging the National Guard, the Army Reserve, and the Regular Army into the Army of the United States in time of war. The act further expanded the National Guard’s role, and guaranteed the State militias’ status as the Army’s primary reserve force. The law mandated use of the term “National Guard” for that force, and the President was given authority, in case of war or national emergency, to mobilize the National Guard for the duration of the emergency. The number of yearly drills increased from 24 to 48 and annual training from five to 15 days. Drill pay was authorized for the first time.
The Montgomery Amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1987
provides that a governor cannot withhold consent with regard to active duty outside the United States because of any objection to the location, purpose, type, or schedule of such duty. This law was challenged and upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in 1990 in Perpich v. Department of Defense.[15]) [14]
The John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007 Pub.L. 109-364
Federal law was changed in section 1076 so that the Governor of a state is no longer the sole commander in chief of their state’s National Guard during emergencies within the state. The President of the United States will now be able to take total control of a state’s National Guard units without the governor’s consent.[16] In a letter to Congress all 50 governors opposed the increase in power of the president over the National Guard.[17]
The National Defense Authorization Act 2008 Pub.L. 110-181
Repeals provisions in section 1076 in Pub.L. 109-364 but still enables the President to call up the National Guard of the United States for active federal military service during Congressionally sanctioned national emergency or war. Places the National Guard Bureau directly under the Department of Defense as a joint activity. Promoted the Chief of the National Guard Bureau from a three-star to a four-star general.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Guard_of_the_United_States
Bud Wiser
July 29th, 2009
7:19 am
John Conyers, D-MI, says yesterday ‘i don’t has to read no steeniking bill”(whining about people asking whether nor not legislators are actually READING bill 3200.
No, morons like him and all the others don’t want to be bothered with the fine details of a bill that will tax millions, change the entire health infrastructure of the nation, affecting millions more for years to come (if they are allowed to live that long).
Conyers doesn’t need to worry. He gots Obama. He gots all the 94%ers that reelect him like the good little slaves they are. The mindless toadstools that comprise the Democrat electorarte gots no worrys at all.
“Ole man riva, keep on rollin…”
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
July 29th, 2009
7:19 am
TN- The discussion now turns to the differences between Republicans, like Bushie, and Conservatives, like Sarah Palin.
When did I say anything about the Nation Guard?
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
7:19 am
Hot dang. One of them thar tea party fellers wants to terrorize his elected feller by bringin back lynchins. The good ole days is back. What we needs now is to catch us some witches too cuz they can put a spell on you.
Finn McCool
July 29th, 2009
7:19 am
More hypocrisy from the right….well what are we to expect I guess!
Paul Stanley, Tennessee State Senator, Quits After Affair With 22-Year-Old Intern
He also spoke out against funding for Planned Parenthood because he said unmarried people should not have sex.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/28/paul-stanley-tennessee-st_n_246641.html
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
7:25 am
Poor Sarah. She is a twitterin quitter and a mighty fine republican conservative. She is one of us.
Bud Wiser
July 29th, 2009
7:27 am
Maybe he really didn’t have sex, you know, like Bill Clinton, on “what the definition of is, is…”
Come back when you grow a brain.
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
7:28 am
I wonder ifin that Stanley feller from Tennassee remembered to abstain cuz ifin he did not then he is gonna have to take keer of that youngen since she cant have no aborting. May be she is a witch and she done put a spell on him too. Maybe he ought to be thinkin bout becomin a mormon.
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
7:31 am
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July 29th, 2009
6:51 am
And why is that?
“Economic effects. Past capital gain tax rate cuts have increased revenue to the federal government in the first two calendar years after the cuts, yet lost revenue thereafter.”
http://www.nysscpa.org/cpajournal/2004/1004/essentials/p36.htm
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
7:32 am
We Don’t Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
6:58 am
You said it much better than I could have.
Bosch
July 29th, 2009
7:40 am
Andy,
At least I won’t have to buy firewood this winter. When life gives you lemons…….
Mrs. Godzilla
July 29th, 2009
7:49 am
Bosch!
A tree! I had that happen to my car while I was in it a few years ago.
Don’t take the insurance companies first offer!
For your perusal:
Fear Of A Black President: Conservative Media Drumming Up Racial Fear
here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xyj1DSEQuy0&fmt=22
Sounds like some of the righties here….sad ain’t it?
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
7:52 am
Bud Wiser
July 29th, 2009
7:19 am
His committee has a staff that takes care of the details and keep him and the rest of the committee abreast of what is in the bills. His attitude tho, is appalling.
http://www.c-span.org/questions/weekly35.asp
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=51610&print=on
(Like I’ve been saying, it’s too complicated!)
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
8:01 am
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July 29th, 2009
7:19 am
You didn’t, I introduced that topic to show how the feds have taken over control of everything. And then stumbled across what I thought was some very interesting stuff about the guard I didn’t know.
Are you saying Bush wasn’t a conservative and Palin isn’t a Republican? Well, I had sworn off Bush-bashing, but she couldn’t do any worse than he did. After all, she eats so she hunts. If you want to call shooting fish in a barrel hunting.
http://www.grizzlybay.org/SarahPalinInfoPage.htm
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
8:04 am
Finn McCool
July 29th, 2009
7:19 am
Wasn’t he married? At least he had the decency to resign.
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
8:07 am
Bud Wiser
July 29th, 2009
7:27 am
Clinton didn’t have SEXUAL RELATIONS:
Main Entry: sexual relations
Function: noun plural
Date: 1909
: sexual intercourse
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
July 29th, 2009
8:11 am
Well, I’m against this making Congress people read the bills before voting on them. The reason is because it favors the pinheads that read good. If we had that only the people that went to colledge and studied would be able to be in Congress. It would be the same thing as saying godly Republicans ain’t welcome. We all see what happens when people get too educated. Most of them turn out to spout garbage about human or civil rights and they want the rest of us to go along.
Just look at the pinhead we got as President now. I bet he never hardly partied at all when he was going to colledge. He come out of Harvard with stars in his eyes. Now it was diffrent when My President took office. He never talked like no book and sometimes he got all mixed up when he talked, like when he talked about baby Drs. giving their love to the mothers. But his heart was in the right place. And I bet he never read any of the bills he signed. He probly just had some pinheads tell him what was in them. That’s the kind of President we need right now. And that’s the kind of people we need in Congress.
That’s my opinion and it’s very true. Have a good day everybody.
@@
July 29th, 2009
8:13 am
Stanley (a politician) who sets himself up for extortion?
How……? Let me count the ways.
Gale
July 29th, 2009
8:13 am
orry about the tree, Bosch. I have an oak in my back yard and I hope to move before it does.
AmVet
July 29th, 2009
8:14 am
Republiconned, look closely at this guy.
He is your worst nightmare. And the reason you are going to get annihilated at the polls for a third consecutive time a year from November.
He’s young, black, a West Point Grad (brilliant), a decorated combat veteran (ewwww) and he’s gay.
While you conservaclowns insist on trotting out yesteryear’s bible-thumping flat earthers, clueless reactionaries and never-served, never-will chickenhawks, you are getting left further and further and further behind in this nation. From sea to shining sea.
Enjoy you destiny, dodos…
http://www.actblue.com/page/vv_woods
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
8:17 am
I like shootin fish in a barrel cuz it is more challenging then findin things that them republican conservatives have gone and done wrong like sayin one thang and doin the oppsite and that sorta stuff. When I wuz younger folks here in georgia thought I was reel smart cause I even thought that shootin fish in a barrel was more challengin way back then almost ten years ago. That is why I did not bother finishin high school. Three years in that nineth grade did not make me one bit smarter.
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July 29th, 2009
8:18 am
TN- If you want the condensed version, the current leaders of the Republican party are too stupid to realize that Conservatives will not support big government, big spending, squish moderates, like them for instance.
They want to replace us with illegal aliens, hahahahaha.
Sarah don’t.
USinUK
July 29th, 2009
8:22 am
Bosch –
dude. you are in a major spiraling vortex of suck right now. hopefully, the tree is the last of it!! but, as you say, you’ll have a nice amount of “fahr” wood for the winter, so always a silver lining!
Bud –
“Maybe he really didn’t have sex, you know, like Bill Clinton, on “what the definition of is, is…””
um. evidently, you haven’t read the story. there are pictures. there is video. and it isn’t of their vacation snaps. nice try, though.
Whiner –
last but not least … gummint spending isn’t a Dem or GOP issue — unfortunately, ALL governments are set up as a “use it or lose it” when it comes to budgeting. cost savings aren’t rewarded, they’re punished with budget cuts the following year.
Normal
July 29th, 2009
8:22 am
Bosch, From a tiny acorn, a mighty oak tree falls…Remember you just had some very good news about your health, so what’s modified tree house in the grand scheme of things…No one was hurt, and that’s what insurance is for. Keep smilin’, Bro…just sayin’ (sorry @@)
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
8:24 am
We Don’t Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
8:17 am
Well, I really couldn’t get past the 9th grade, and still don’t fully understand exactly why. Of course I got a little more education later, but that joke hit home.
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
8:26 am
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July 29th, 2009
8:18 am
Looks like a new party is in order.
USinUK
July 29th, 2009
8:28 am
TnG –
“Looks like a new party is in order.”
the definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result.
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July 29th, 2009
8:30 am
last but not least … gummint spending isn’t a Dem or GOP issue — unfortunately, ALL governments are set up as a “use it or lose it” when it comes to budgeting. cost savings aren’t rewarded, they’re punished with budget cuts the following year.
The US Constitution “sets up” the government and I failed to notice the articles that enumerated the “use or lose it” clause.
Idiocy like this is the reason we will shortly no longer be a superpower.
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
8:33 am
AmVet
July 29th, 2009
8:14 am
Send a donation, now!
USinUK
July 29th, 2009
8:36 am
Whiner –
“The US Constitution “sets up” the government and I failed to notice the articles that enumerated the “use or lose it” clause. Idiocy like this is the reason we will shortly no longer be a superpower”
hey – I’m against use it/lose it, too (hey-hey, we agree on something)
I’m just saying that, even under the GOP, the same thing was going on in agencies all over the country at the state level as well as the national level. and it isn’t limited to the US, either -
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
8:39 am
Well, TnG, my pappy made it all the way through the fifth grade back in the depressing days and still managed to pick a few bags of cotton before sundown and he went on to be a mighty fine superviser for the city where I growed up. He was a mighty fine pappy too. So, a good edication aint all got from books and a good person shore aint made from jest book learnin. Take this feller, Phil Gramm for xample. He had all kinds of book lernin from that dawg trainin school and he turned out to be a real mean and nasty critter, like an old doberman that was abused his hole life.
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July 29th, 2009
8:39 am
Monday, the City of Cambridge released the 911 and arrest tapes from the incident in which Gates was arrested by white police officer James Crowley. It is no wonder that Gates has begun to back down from his allegations of racism. The tapes show no such motivation, and they confirm that Gates was being disorderly, which he had denied.
The tapes reveal a couple of crucial points. 1) the woman who reported the possible break-in at Gates’ home never mentioned black males at all. 2) Gates was in fact shouting, despite his claim that this was impossible.
I remember a time long ago, in the unwise days of my youth, when myself and several of my associates were out “road loading,” um, that being driving around aimlessly on country roads throwing empty beer cans out the window. Sure enough, we happened upon the law. The gentleman explained that if he saw us again that night, we were all going to jail. One of my compadres in the back seat noisily demanded a clarification, as he had been drinking much more heavily than the rest of us. The cops reached into the backseat and snatched our hero out through the open car window. When we saw him again the next day, he was sporting several nice bruises about his head and upper torso.
And to think, he was just as white as the pure driven snow.
Ain’t that a b*, he couldn’t call anybody a racist.
jt
July 29th, 2009
8:39 am
AmVet
July 29th, 2009
8:14 am
“Republiconned, look closely at this guy.
He is your worst nightmare. And the reason you are going to get annihilated at the polls for a third consecutive time a year from November.”
The last good thing to come out of California was grown in Humbolt County. The last REAL man to come out of there was Sir Ronald W. Reagen. God bless his soul.
And you know it.
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
8:54 am
Ronald Reagun started out all righty in californa makin western movies. He was a reel merican hero. Then he went and got all weerd and started having his way with a chimpanzee and that jest werent right. We done gone and evolved past that kind of behavior or at leest I thought we had until I heerd about that feller down in Jonesboro. Jest goes to show that some change is good and that we dont need to be doin the kinda thangs that they used to do way back in the days before we was taught the new ways with that trainin film called deliverance no more.
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July 29th, 2009
9:05 am
Next year’s elections are going to produce a political earthquake. That is because we currently suffer the most left-wing government in our nation’s history. After just 6 months in office, the flower children that rule Washington in overwhelming numbers are already smashing through all records regarding federal taxes, spending, deficits, and debt. Obama and his ultra-left Democrats adopted a so-called stimulus bill raising spending a trillion dollars that never had a prayer of actually creating jobs and promoting long-term economic growth, because it was based entirely on old-fashioned, brain dead, proven to fail, Keynesian economics. Though we would have to double federal taxes to finance the entitlement promises we have already made, the ruling Washington Democrats completely ignore that and focus instead on adopting yet another entitlement — national health insurance — that would be the biggest of all.
Driving their whole stinking party off the cliff.
Yay!
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July 29th, 2009
9:09 am
The GOP leads the generic Congressional Ballot by 3%, while only 18% rate the Democrat-controlled Congress as good or excellent.
Aahhh, yes, the 18 percenters.
eewww
USinUK
July 29th, 2009
9:10 am
“The last good thing to come out of California was grown in Humbolt County”
I’m sure the fine folks of Boeing appreciate that.
Not to mention, I think you had better get off the intertubes if you think that anything coming out of CA is so awful (not everything intertube-related came from WA, after all)
Me, I’m mighty partial to the lovely fermented grape products of Napa
Then, let’s not overlook the movies and teevee shows you watch.
And, of course, there’s Robert Frost, Joe DiMaggio, Justice Warren, Francis Ford Coppola, John Fogerty, Pauline Kael, Dorothea Lange (my photography hero), Rita Moreno, Alice Waters (one of my top 5 culinary heros) and Thornton Wilder. Frankly, I’ll take any of them over Reagan, but that’s just me. YMMV.
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
9:12 am
“The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being,” John P. Holdren, director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, wrote in “Human Ecology: Problems and Solutions.”
So basically all we gots to do now is figger how to give them republican conservatives the opportunity and they will be all right cept for the older ones since they cant get younger no matter how much they pay fer their health care. After all, that skin stretching and other high technology stuff and tannin beds dont really make a person younger. It is what the edicated ones call a facade. I learned it as puttin on airs myself.
jt
July 29th, 2009
9:18 am
I stand corrected.
The last good POLITICIAN that came out of California.
Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.
Ronald Reagan
How do you tell a communist? Well, it’s someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It’s someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
Ronald Reagan
jt
July 29th, 2009
9:19 am
One way to make sure crime doesn’t pay would be to let the government run it.
Ronald Reagan
jt
July 29th, 2009
9:19 am
Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the democrats believe every day is April 15.
Ronald Reagan
USinUK
July 29th, 2009
9:24 am
jt – you’re confusing speechwriters with actual thought.
Doggone/GA
July 29th, 2009
9:24 am
“you’re confusing speechwriters with actual thought”
He’s also confusing words with actions. Reagan seems to have just fine being part of the government AND participating in criminal activities.
jt
July 29th, 2009
9:25 am
I did not have sex with that woman.
William J. Clinton
jt
July 29th, 2009
9:28 am
It was a BIG rabbit.
Jimmy Carter
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
9:30 am
USinUK
July 29th, 2009
8:28 am
Well, at least the true conservatives have principles, something the GOP abandoned long ago.
USinUK
July 29th, 2009
9:35 am
and I hope you GA republicans are feeling the love:
Ohio Senator George Voinovich says that the GOP is “being taken over by southerners,” the Columbus Dispatch reports.
In an interview with with the paper, Voinovich said shrinking demographics and southern senators are alienating his conservative constituents. He cites Republican Senators Jim DeMint and Tom Coburn as the GOP’s biggest problem.
“We got too many Jim DeMints (R-S.C.) and Tom Coburns (R-Ok.). It’s the southerners. They get on TV and go ‘errrr, errrrr.’ People hear them and say, ‘These people, they’re southerners. The party’s being taken over by southerners. What they hell they got to do with Ohio?’,” Voinovich said.
get it through your heads … they want your vote but they sure as HELL don’t want YOU.
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
9:36 am
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July 29th, 2009
8:30 am
We’ll remain a super power, but the wealthy are going to have to start investing more in America and less in Ponzi schemes. Wonder how many more Madoffs are out there?
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
9:36 am
I used to like Reagun back when he was a hollywood wild west actor. When he got elected though he was supposed to stop makin believe and start dealin with real world stuff. He had to go and give them bad evil folks in them foreen countries all kinds of germs and deadly gases and stuff and then he even give them iran terriers US aeroplanes and stuff. That was when I finally understood that Reagun was still thinkin that he was still makin pretend movies even though he was really hurtin a whole lot of people. He is dead now though so he cant never be punished for being such a stoopid man here on earth. He is in the devils hand now and that is where he will stay.
jt
July 29th, 2009
9:42 am
TnGelding- you asked.
Wonder how many more Madoffs are out there?
There are 100 senators and app. 435 representatives.
USinUK
July 29th, 2009
9:42 am
TnG –
“Wonder how many more Madoffs are out there”
don’t forget Stanford –
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aRkc6QnSiujg
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
9:46 am
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July 29th, 2009
8:39 am
But he could have and should have filed a complaint.
But did Gates’ action warrant being arrested?
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
9:52 am
It is a good thang that we gots us some conservative democrats in Washington cause ifin we did not have them then the conservative republicans would probly still be sittin around sayin no instead of offerin to help.
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
9:55 am
jt
July 29th, 2009
8:39 am
Well, he did sell us out to the Japanese. But hey, he was properly rewarded with a $2 million speaking fee. It would have been a bargain for them at $2 billion. And then there’s that little matter of the increase in Social Security taxes from such a principled actor. Not to mention the promise of smaller government.
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/92066
@@
July 29th, 2009
9:55 am
Breakfast with Dave
by David A. Rosenberg
MARKET THOUGHTS
Admittedly, I have a difficult time understanding the market and economy, but when I read that consumer confidence (I’m more inclined to place my confidence in the people) was down in July in spite of everything government has done, I’m thinking…..hmmmmmm.
Regardless of what we’re being told, the “stimulating conversation” coming out of Washington does not appear to be working.
It’s a long article (puzzle) that pulls in a lot of pieces. Worth a read.
A personal note….we decided to go for the “cash for clunkers” stimulus since our daughter is going away to school and needs a car that’s under warranty. We’re standing there with the cash in hand but they insist on financing? How many of those car loans are gonna go into default? Not ours! We were told we could pay it off in three months. It will be paid off but I resent the fact that our cash wasn’t acceptable under the program. It’s cash and carry in our household.
md
July 29th, 2009
9:56 am
” that the GOP is “being taken over by southerners,”
Considering the South is being taken over by northerners, sounds like a big circle to me.
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
10:01 am
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You Whine 
July 29th, 2009
9:05 am
You failed to attribute that quote, but it was nothing but wishful thinking. The jobs will come, the economy will grow, Wall Street will soar and Democrats will rule. But it would be nice if we could replace them with Libertarians. The GOP might pick up a few seats in 2010, however.
Oh, and health care reform and cap and trade will be long forgotten. Obama will tinker with current regulations.
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
10:01 am
Perdue is a yankee! Who woulda ever thought that. But if this md says so then it must be true. I aint no Yankee though. I was borned and raised and edicated right here in georgia. This is where I has lived my whole life.
@@
July 29th, 2009
10:10 am
Put a cork in it Steenker. I’m not even southern but your schtick is getting old, tired and redundant.
Schtick it where the sun don’t shine!
USinUK
July 29th, 2009
10:11 am
@@ –
confidence – meh. that can be boiled down to 1 word: employment. now that new filings are decreasing, confidence will begin to rebound.
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
10:13 am
Among conditions that White House aides say Obama will outline later Wednesday: insurers would be required to set annual caps on how much they can charge for out-of-pocket expenses, fully cover routine tests to help prevent illness, and renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in full.
Insurers also would be barred from refusing coverage because of pre-existing conditions, scaling back insurance for people who fall very ill, charging more for services based on gender, and placing caps on coverage. And, they wouldn’t be able to deny children family coverage through age 26.
Why this here stuff is jest stoopid in so meny ways. First off it is jest more govment that we dont want or need. and finally how can we expect inshorance companies to even stay here with all them tough rules. They will all jest up and move to India unless we at least promise their executives that they will never have to pay any taxes or do any jail time for whatever they might have done or ever will do. It is only right. We cant jest keep on runnin off fine inshorance companies like AIG.
Kamchak
July 29th, 2009
10:14 am
We Don’t Need No Steenking Government
Keep doing what you do—if Scarlett’s upset, you must be doing something right.
Finn McCool
July 29th, 2009
10:17 am
Here’s a petition from Sen Schumer, Durbin, and Leahy asking for a public health care option:
http://citizensforapublicoption.com/
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
10:18 am
That @@ person is weerd too. He must be one of them conservative republicans that likes lincolns log and cabins too like that toe tapper feller. And, I guess I dont have to do what this @@ wants me to do since this @@ aint no boss at the ajc. So, you can keep yore sick sthick or whatever you call yore thang to yore self or them other fellers down thar in Jonesboro.
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We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
10:23 am
I am jest glad that we aint birthin no two headed youngens here in the US. First off, the conservative republicans would not let them jest get aborted and second off they would insist that the mommy take care of it even ifin she aint got no money or insurance and ifin it ever died then they would charge the mommy with murder and probly let the pappy off scot free since it was never his legs that got spreaded in the first place.
md
July 29th, 2009
10:26 am
” now that new filings are decreasing,”
Numbers don’t always tell the whole story:
“the number of discouraged workers nationwide has more than doubled in the past year. This trend won’t be reflected in the widely publicized unemployment rate, as discouraged workers aren’t included among the unemployed”
Very large segment of workers quit looking all together. Their confidence surely isn’t on the rise.
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
10:29 am
jt
July 29th, 2009
9:18 am
“Why should we subsidize intellectual curiosity?”
–Ronald Reagan, campaign speech, 1980 (Why, indeed.)
‘Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. Was too strong.’
- Ronald Reagan (Died to soon to witness it.)
‘Politics is not a bad profession. If you succeed, there are many rewards; if you disgrace yourself, you can always write a book.’ – Ronald Reagan (Even his book bombed.)
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
10:30 am
jt
July 29th, 2009
9:42 am
Touche!
USinUK
July 29th, 2009
10:31 am
md –
“Very large segment of workers quit looking all together. Their confidence surely isn’t on the rise.”
NEW FILINGS. NEW. As in those who have JUST been laid off.
NEW filings have fallen by 100K/week and the 4 week moving average has fallen by about 60K/week.
those numbers don’t have anything to do with the ILO unemployment number.
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
10:32 am
Very large segment of workers quit looking all together. Their confidence surely isn’t on the rise.
It is so on the rise. They are more and more confident with each passing day that there are no jobs out there for them.
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
10:33 am
md
July 29th, 2009
10:26 am
We have plenty of jobs, just the wrong people filling them.
@@
July 29th, 2009
10:36 am
USinUK:
You didn’t read the article, did you? Just like you conveniently ignore what’s “behind the baby count” (infant mortality rates).
Steenker:
The object of your obsession (Mr. Edwin Robles) is a recently relocated hispanic. Are you willing to say it’s a cultural thing? If not….move on. He’s not a southerner in your “typical sense” or lack thereof.
Gandalf of Gwinnesia
July 29th, 2009
10:37 am
Man I wish I was a cop today! I would go arrest a minority perp and get me a free trip to the white house to drink with Barry and the minority perp member I arrested. Maybe after a couple beers I can demonstrate some of them there enhanced interrogation techniques for Barry on the criminal.
One
Big
A$$
Mistake
America
deegee
July 29th, 2009
10:45 am
Whiner, suppose you and your buddies had nothing to drink that night and were on your way home from work. The cop stopped you because you looked like a carload of kids that were drinking and throwing beer cans out the window. Your friend asked the cop for an explanation and got snatched out of the window and beaten up. Now, how would you feel?
Gandalf of Gwinnesia
July 29th, 2009
10:46 am
Gubermint will take care of yous…Don’t worry! Barry, Barry Allelujah!
Isn’t a government based on the cults of Barry and Global Warming a theocracy?
One
Big
A$$
Mistake
America
Gandalf of Gwinnesia
July 29th, 2009
10:51 am
TnG Gates was disrespecting a Police Officer. He was creating a public nuisance, and last but not least, the race baiter is an idiot. He deserved it, I wish he would have resisted! That would have been sweet!
One
Big
A$$
Mistake
America
The policeman did nothing wrong EXCEPT accept Barry’s phone call and invitation to have a beer. I would have hung up on him after telling him not to call stupid no mo.
I Report (-: You Whine )-:
July 29th, 2009
10:53 am
Your friend asked the cop for an explanation and got snatched out of the window and beaten up. Now, how would you feel?
Not stupid like my friend would.
AmVet
July 29th, 2009
10:55 am
“The last good thing to come out of California was grown in Humbolt County. The last REAL man to come out of there was Sir Ronald W. Reagen. God bless his soul.”
jt,
Wow, that may be a first in all of AJC blogging.
An absolute brilliant observation followed immediately by such an absolutely abysmal one.
But hey! One out of two ain’t terrible (by Republican standards!)…
USinUK
July 29th, 2009
10:55 am
@@ –
“You didn’t read the article, did you? Just like you conveniently ignore what’s “behind the baby count” (infant mortality rates).”
last thing first – you’re saying that we have double the mortality rate than countries in europe because they don’t count babies smaller than 12″ … that is, in technical parlance, a STRETCH.
first thing second – yes, I read the article. and, again, confidence will begin to rebound when people stop being pummeled with every Thursday’s weekly new unemployment filings over 500K. they’re finally under 600K after 6 months and have been dropping fairly steadily over the last 5 weeks (last week being a hiccup, but still below the forecast).
I think the most important item in the article is the “new normal” – and that’s what all economists are trying to muddle through right now. consumer spending accounts for 70% of US GDP, so if the current cycle that we find ourselves in (called the paradox of thrift) continues, what will the new standard of GDP be? previously, “standard” GDP was 3% – should we now expect it to be 2%? and will that be permanent? or is it just that the rebound from the recession will look more like an extended hockey stick?? and, falling out from that, what will the new standard unemployment number be? previously, standard or equilibrium unemployment was around 3.5-ish%. will it now be 6-7% if consumer spending stays low?
again, that’s why I say, “consumer confidence – meh”. it’s a snapshot USUALLY driven by gas prices — you can chart out average pump prices vs. the Univ of Michigan confidence and they are inversely related to each other. (and, yes, for giggles and to prove a point to my boss, I did that one day). right now, it’s being driven by the relentless news about unemployment. that will change and confidence will pick up again.
Curious Observer
July 29th, 2009
10:57 am
Scarlett. What a great name for the conservative queen of Clayton County!
md
July 29th, 2009
10:57 am
“confidence – meh. that can be boiled down to 1 word: employment. now that new filings are decreasing, confidence will begin to rebound.”
I believe you are the one that linked employment to confidence, and just because NEW filings are down, it doesn’t necessarily equate to rebounding confidence. One must look at the entire picture, not just NEW filings.
I Report (-: You Whine )-:
July 29th, 2009
11:02 am
barry Obozo “bailed out” the kampaign that will soon eat him, hahaha-
No political race in sight, but Hillary Clinton’s camp is election-ready
eewwww, not Bruno again.
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
11:02 am
The object of your obsession (Mr. Edwin Robles) is a recently relocated hispanic. Are you willing to say it’s a cultural thing? If not….move on. He’s not a southerner in your “typical sense” or lack thereof.
Yuk. @@ even knows the guy’s name. So, he aint no southerner and neither are you from what you say. That means neither one of you knows the culture here in the south. Go home, Yankee.
Kamchak
July 29th, 2009
11:05 am
“Scarlett. What a great name for the drama queen of Clayton County!”
I fixed your typo for you.
jt
July 29th, 2009
11:11 am
TnGelding -
That hurt.
He did grow gubmint, under a democrat congress. His last two years in office did not count. I don’t think that he was completely aware.
AmVet-
The second comment was AFTER the Humbolt County.
getalife
July 29th, 2009
11:15 am
She is not running Andy.
After 8 years of globetrotting the world, she will take a break.
USinUK
July 29th, 2009
11:16 am
md –
“One must look at the entire picture, not just NEW filings.”
I agree with you that the entire picture is important – however … just like the equity markets and the housing market have shown us, people start to see a glimmer of hope when we are no longer careening down the cliff face. now that new unemployment numbers are receding, the fear of being laid off also recedes, improving confidence.