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TnGelding
August 2nd, 2009
7:40 pm
Kamchak
August 2nd, 2009
6:00 pm
Under the circumstances, I think it’s doing a good job. But what they do is too complicated for me to really understand. I guess it would depend on how bad you think the economic crisis of 2007-2009 really is/was.
TnGelding
August 2nd, 2009
7:46 pm
Kayaker 71
August 2nd, 2009
7:24 pm
Better yet, confront them at a Town Hall meeting near you.
But I’m not getting too worked up until they get closer to actually passing something the president will sign.
Kamchak
August 2nd, 2009
7:59 pm
TnG
The Federal Open Markets Committee (FOMC) or Fed is supposed to oversee all markets: equities, bonds, commodities, currencies etc. After the bubble burst on internet stocks, a lot of cash was out there waiting to be plucked like low hanging fruit. An argument could be made that Greenspan saw the possibility of another bubble and directed it towards real estate, hoping that this bubble would retain more of it’s value—unlike stocks or tulip bulbs.
Finn McCool
August 2nd, 2009
8:16 pm
Kayaker, you are the one who hasn’t read Section 1233. It’s a c-o-n-s-u-l-t-a-t-i-o-n.
Do you know what a consultation is???? Can you use dictionary.com?
The Section wants to allow seniors to meet with a DR every 5 years to see if there is any end-of-life questions they may have. We all die, this is a way for people to get to ask questions — without having to pay for it.
That is what the Section is about —- it’s purpose is to set this up so that the government pays for it!
You are part of the problem, you are pushing talking points meant to put fear in the population – not help others understand what is being planned for health care.
Thanks for all you do for your fellow Americans, Kayaker!
Kayaker 71
August 2nd, 2009
8:17 pm
Gelding,
Best to get worked up now. By the time it is ready for signing, it is too late. There are too many provisions in this thing that penalize those of us who already have a good health care plan. I am concerned about the American citizens who do not have health care but not about the estimated 20M illegals who will fall into coverage, paid for with your tax dollars. Too big a voting bloc to ignore.
Finn McCool
August 2nd, 2009
8:18 pm
Kayaker,
Discussions between sick or elderly people and their doctors about end-of-life treatment have long been an accepted part of modern patient care. In 2003, a Bush administration agency issued a 20-page report outlining a five-part process for physicians to discuss end-of-life care with their patients and since 1990, Congress has required health-care agencies to inform patients about state laws regarding advance directives such as a living will.
Yeah, that statement did include the name George W. Bush.
http://edlabor.house.gov/blog/2009/07/health-care-checkup-advance-pl.shtml
Kayaker 71
August 2nd, 2009
8:30 pm
McCool,
Yes, after practicing medicine for over 45 yrs, I am very familiar with the word consultation. I can certainly use dictionary. com. I do not elect to go to a physician every five years for a “consultation” on dying. I am a social security recipient and if I continue to receive SS benefits, I must present myself for this session on how to end my life. I have planned very well for my demise. I do not need the government to lead me around by the nose and do my planning for me. Government does not belong in this phase of my life or any other phase, for that matter. All of this “c.o.n.s.u.l.t.a.t.i.o.n offends me and it should offend you, if you have half a brain. I do not push talking points just to hear myself talk.
Oh, one other thing. 35 years on active duty with the US Army has certainly put me in a category of Americans who have done something for their country. What have you contributed, McCool?
Who You Gonna Call
August 2nd, 2009
8:40 pm
Kayaker 71,
Please select the scenery that you would like to view. Then, lie back and when you are ready, just press the button. Rest assured that you will provide nourishment to many needy people in the afterlife.
stands for decibels
August 2nd, 2009
8:44 pm
if I continue to receive SS benefits, I must present myself for this session on how to end my life.
Jeez, not this crap again.
The controversy stems from a single proposal in one of the House bills (there are three drafts) to pay physicians who counsel elderly or terminally ill patients about what medical interventions they would prefer near the end of life and how to prepare instructions such as living wills. Under the plan, Medicare would reimburse doctors for one session every five years to confer with a patient about his or her wishes and how to ensure those preferences are followed. The counseling sessions would be voluntary.
Finn McCool
August 2nd, 2009
8:45 pm
Kayaker wrote: I do not need the government to lead me around by the nose and do my planning for me.
So everyone else in our society is in your shoes, Kayaker? Everyone understands all the end of life issues? Other people don’t have questions? Other people wouldn’t have something to gain from a little consultation with an expert?
Perhaps it’s not the government that is wanting to lead people around by their noses…looks to me like you are the one who wants to determine what is and isn’t available to the rest of us.
There are some smart minds working on this bill but, because you served in some medical capacity and served your country, you know better than everyone of those people.
Kayaker wrote: if I continue to receive SS benefits, I must present myself for this session on how to end my life.
I seriously doubt you were ever a doctor. You demonstrate no compassion for other people. If you were a DR then this is a perfect example of why the AMA pisses me off: we have a right to know where a doctor graduated in their class. I want to know if I’m being attended to by the guy/gal who graduated last in their class.
Finn McCool
August 2nd, 2009
8:48 pm
if I continue to receive SS benefits, I must present myself for this session on how to end my life
Yes folks, evidently these people are allowed to practice medicine in the US. Any wonder why the health care industry is a bloated mess?
Who You Gonna Call
August 2nd, 2009
8:54 pm
Kayaker 71,
Have you ever administered an experimental drug to a soldier without his/her knowledge? What are the effects, on homo sapiens, of exposure to Agent Orange?
Curious Observer
August 2nd, 2009
9:02 pm
I’ve gotten asked about “end of life” issues every time I’ve had to be admitted to a hospital. Invariably, the admitting clerk asks if I have a living will, and if I don’t have one, I have to initial a form indicating that I am waiving the opportunity. On the other hand, no one in a Social Security office has ever said anything to me about a consultation.
I’m calling bullcrap on this false assertion. I suppose that some people are so desperate to oppose extending health insurance to those not currently insured that they will invent any wild supposition to support their assertions.
Who You Gonna Call
August 2nd, 2009
9:16 pm
The only real issue that the conservatives have with this consultation is its name. They want it to be referred to as the “afterlife” consultation. Also, they believe that it should be paid for by the consumer via a tithe. It’s the charitable thing to do.
jt
August 2nd, 2009
9:16 pm
Goverment doctors intentionally infected a bunch of black citizens with syphillus.
Goverment doctors also are responsible for thousands of black children in Africa dying a gruesome death with that first batch of polio vaccine.
I’m sure that money and politics will absolutely not affect goverment healthcare.
Obama and Barney Frank will take care of us all. And Ted Kennedy.
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
August 2nd, 2009
9:24 pm
jt- Don’t forget, the US government sought to demonize DDT and the resulting ban killed 500,000 children.
Do you think that even bothers them?
Who the hell are we, cept roadblocks to their power?
Who You Gonna Call
August 2nd, 2009
9:27 pm
Government doctors take care of our soldiers. Government doctors take care of everyone receiving Medicare and Medicaid (they must be government doctors since tax dollars pay them). Government doctors take care of the children of poor families all over the US. Government doctors take care of government employees. Good thing the rest of us only have to pay for all that service without actually receiving any of the benefit. Hey, if the insurance that our Congressmen receive on our dime is good enough for them, then why can’t I also have access to that very same insurance at the very same rates.
Kayaker 71
August 2nd, 2009
9:28 pm
McCool,
You have all kinds of issues, don’t you? You sound like a self absorbed prick who is pretty full of him/herself.
Issues such as graduation standing are readily available online by most informative sites. You should be free to make the decision as to your provider…. that should not be a government decision. I have no interest in deciding what kind of health care you get. It’s none of my business. It is also none of the government’s.
And no, I have not administered any experimental drugs to soldiers. The decision to use Agent Orange was made by non-medical people…. we were just left with the aftermath.
To assume that someone who disagrees with you has contributed to the health care industry being in a “bloated mess”is pretty stupid. And, no, I have not administered any experimental drugs to soldiers, with or without their knowledge. The decision to use Agent Orange was made by non-medical personnel…. we were just left with the aftermath.
Who You Gonna Call
August 2nd, 2009
9:29 pm
IR/YW,
Feel free to bathe in DDT if it makes you feel better.
Who You Gonna Call
August 2nd, 2009
9:34 pm
What you addressing your comments on agent orange to this McCool for, Kayaker 71. Also, I see that you did not actually answer the specific question regarding Agent Orange. I was just curious to hear a doctor’s side of the story without all the government cover up, you know. I’ll bet you know since you probably had to treat lots of people and saw first hand what some of these chemicals do to people. By the way, how about DDT. What does it do to people. I’ll bet that you stay up to date on all the studies.
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
August 2nd, 2009
9:39 pm
Feel free to bathe in DDT if it makes you feel better.
We all did when we were children, moron, they sprayed whole neighborhoods to control mosquitos.
All those dead African children weren’t provided such benefits, so unlike us, who live full, happy lives, they got to die terrible deaths from malaria.
You seem awfully proud of yourself, sicko.
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
August 2nd, 2009
9:41 pm
The government decided to use Agent Orange, hole shot, same as they decide they want government run health care.
That’s why our founding fathers limited them.
They would vomit if they knew you.
jt
August 2nd, 2009
9:41 pm
This is interesting. The socialist nirvana welfare state of Sweden has something to teach the US. This guy Borg is sweden’s finance minister.
“Like many societies, we went too far in our welfare-state ambitions,” say Borg (pronounced “Bor-ee”).
Since sweeping to power in 2006, Reinfeldt’s center-right Alliance has been shrinking Sweden’s welfare state. The government is resisting calls to rescue its struggling auto industry. To hear Borg tell it, his government isn’t inspired by coldhearted Darwinism but by cold, hard evidence that the easier the state makes life for people, the easier they take it.
Borg’s prescription for growth is simple: cut taxes. His government has slashed the tax rate on low incomes from 30.7% to 17.1%. The combined tax take (national and local; income and other) has fallen by 2.5 percentage points in three years to 46.6% of gross domestic product.
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2009/0803/international-invest-guide-obama-sweden-public-downsizing.html
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
August 2nd, 2009
9:47 pm
Our government shrugs off the millions of deaths it causes, the millions it starves, and then it moves on to it’s next bright idea.
Government housing projects, anyone?
Our founding fathers fought against rampant government and for freedom, they would puke on you sorry socialists.
Finn McCool
August 2nd, 2009
9:47 pm
Kayaker wrote: I have no interest in deciding what kind of health care you get. It’s none of my business. It is also none of the government’s.
Kayaker, any idea who licenses doctors? They are state (read government) administered. You want to go to doctors who aren’t licensed? I am glad the government plays a role in determining who qualifies to act as a medical professional. I wouldn’t want it any other way.
My point is this: It IS the government’s business. It is in our country’s (the government, society, the whole shebang) best interest to keep the population healthy.
Yes, I have issues. I have issues with your type: Those who are part of the problem.
Finn McCool
August 2nd, 2009
9:49 pm
Hmmmm, looks like I Report is now a “Blame America First” kinda person.
Who You Gonna Call
August 2nd, 2009
9:55 pm
Looky at the IR/YW. He gets all upset and starts on another of his name-calling rants when ever anyone challenges his lies. Like I said, IR/YW go bathe in your DDT. Then, rinse off in Agent Orange if you want. I don’t care and clearly, you do not either. Right. By the way, Agent Orange was produced by DOW and Monsanto and they are not the government even though they own a sizable number of folks in the government — like most big businesses.
jt
August 2nd, 2009
9:55 pm
I Report
You Whine 
August 2nd, 2009
9:39 pm
Feel free to bathe in DDT if it makes you feel better.
We all did when we were children, moron, they sprayed whole neighborhoods to control mosquitos.
That is funny but true. I also remember, as a kid, my fascination with mercury. I would break thermometers to get it. I had a huge glob at one time. I guess I’m a gonner.
Seriously, we people on the right are always accused of “scare tactics”.
But can someone explain to me why (or if) it cost SOOO much more money to go to the emergency room instead of a clinic.??
Who You Gonna Call
August 2nd, 2009
10:01 pm
Hey, what happened to Kayaker 71. I was so looking forward to reading what a medical doctor had to say about his first-hand experiences with Agent Orange and its impact on humans and about his knowledge of the impact of DDT on humans. Any issues with birth defects or cancers with either of these products. What about a common contaminant in Agent Orange — dioxin. Does that cause any problems with humans.
jt
August 2nd, 2009
10:03 pm
Here is another good one from our Australian friends down under. Politicians running healthcare. Gotta love it.
The commission’s final report cites figures indicating Australians are forgoing two years of life because of waste and duplication in the health system. Errors are also taking a human toll. “The number of adverse events each year (is) equivalent to 13 jumbo jets crashing and killing all 350 passengers on board,” it says.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25840028-2702,00.html
Who You Gonna Call
August 2nd, 2009
10:05 pm
And, PCBs are safe too, jt. Why don’t you drive on over to Anniston, Alabama and just ask around. Check it out, dude. If you really want to get some attention, just tell the folks there that you work for GE or Monsanto or that Monsanto spinoff, if they’re still around.
Who You Gonna Call
August 2nd, 2009
10:08 pm
You mean this Australia:
Australia model shows public health care option can work
Who You Gonna Call
August 2nd, 2009
10:12 pm
And, remember to just tell the government to keep its hands out of Medicare, just like that conservative Republican told his Congressman to do.
Good night, folks.
jt
August 2nd, 2009
10:14 pm
“Australia model shows public health care option can work”
Many goverment programs DO work…….for a short time.
Then they degrade into parasitic slush funds for the politically correct. Americans usually tolerate these slush funds for soybeans, pesticides, and murder weapons because they usually can avoid them.
Not so with our medical field.
Finn McCool
August 2nd, 2009
10:17 pm
McCain: Without Hispanic Voters, GOP In “Very, Very Deep Hole”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/02/mccain-without-hispanic-v_n_249488.html
Palin/Jindal 2012 (Yes Yes Yes Oh please oh please oh please)
@@
August 2nd, 2009
10:36 pm
I’m bettin’ everybody but #8, Kristina already has a living will. Notice they didn’t even ask Kristina what she thought about the auto bailouts. Probably ’cause she wouldn’t know what they were talking about.
Somebody should counsel Kristina on how NOT to waste money.
jt
August 2nd, 2009
10:42 pm
My neighborhood is full of single, financially comfortable, couger-type women. Four of these neighbors have traded their American made cars in for Honda’s and Toyotas.
And my tax money helped them do this.
@@
August 2nd, 2009
10:46 pm
Oh my!
Friday Sermon on Sudan TV: Preacher Abd Al-Jalil Al-Karouri Calls on U.S. ‘President Hussein’ to Acknowledge That the Jews Carried Out 9/11: ‘[Obama] Has Ideological Roots, Because his Father is One of Ours, and his Religion, Originally, is Our Religion; He Has a Longing for These Roots’
“We consider this to be a Jewish conspiracy. 4,000 Jews were absent from work in this usury center – these two buildings in Manhattan were the World Usury Center. 4,000 Jews were absent from work, so that 4,000 Americans would die. The [Americans] must study the issue of 9/11, so they can apologize for it, just like they apologized for the invasion of Iraq.” [...]
Our own Will Jones is Sudanese?
Kamchak
August 2nd, 2009
10:47 pm
Palin/Jindal 2012 (Yes Yes Yes Oh please oh please oh please)
Be careful what you wish for. When the Gods want to punish us, they start by granting our wishes.
@@
August 2nd, 2009
11:16 pm
ABC News Anchor John Stossel Airs Blistering Dissection of Socialized Medicine
John Stossel is socially liberal, fiscally conservative. He’s a libertarian looking out for us.
@@
August 2nd, 2009
11:43 pm
The U.S. economy is beginning to improve, but the growing federal budget deficit means that Americans will have to make “tough choices” in the future, U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said Aug. 2. Geithner said in an interview that he expects the U.S. economy to improve through the rest of the year, though unemployment, while slowing, is expected to continue rising, with job creation possible in 2010. Geithner said emergency economic measures including the bailout program and stimulus spending are expanding the budget deficit to unsustainable levels.
Yeah…..and…..
Dusty
August 2nd, 2009
11:50 pm
If Kayaker has left, that is no surprise. The ignorance displayed here about medical procedures and medical practice is depressing, to say the least. With the best health care in the world. some of you sit here posting like you are a bunch of helpless babies needing directions. …
The Constitution of the USA is not a long document. It covers the specifics. It does not say that the government should provide or decide on health care for citizens. Such decisions are left to the the citizens which is one thing Kayaker is saying. He wants to decide on his own medical care. That is his freedom. He also wants you to make your own decisions. This bill is a directive, not an option.
Yesterday, Doggone said that doctors should have no influence in the new Healthcare Bill being set up .That is, the main caregivers should have no say in the care. Medical care without the doctor’s input. I’ll bet Doggone expects a doctor when he gets medical care. But… with healthcare plans? Nawww
Another poster here said that ALL doctors were for this Healthcare Bill. Wrong. Dr. Williamson, president of the Medical Association of Georgia, representing forty thousand doctors, spoke against this bill. It is a socialistic, expensive, problem-laden plan hastily organized mostly by non-medical people. All of you should be concerned about this mammoth concoction which will place you within the dangerous limits of poor medicine.
Agent Orange! That was spread by the choice of military officials, not doctors. Doctors treat the effects of Agent Orange. They had nothing to do with dispensing Agent Orange.
Your info is so lacking. DDT had proven detrimental to the environment so it was stopped in Africa. Malaria deaths arose immediately.as IRYW posted because the mosquito population, carriers of malaria, greatly increased. That has been written up many times.
As to the syphilis study, doctors did not give syphilis to patients. They ran a study where some patients who ALREADY had syphilis were given a new “cure” while some received a placebo. Drug studies on new medicines are run today somewhat in this same manner to test their effectiveness.
Another blogger said he had to sign a “living will” at the hospital. That is because doctors and hospitals will be sued for “killing” someone when life giving machines are removed when the patient is obviously without a chance of recovery. The only legal protection is to have a patient say it is OK to end life when it is really over. Medical insurance rates for doctors are sky high because patients’ families will sue over anything they can question.
So, sleep tight now. The government will soon be here to tuck you in your bed. You should not have to do it yourself. As Yogi Bara said,”When you come to the fork in the road, take it.”
Dusty
August 3rd, 2009
12:39 am
Let me correct some information about the Tuskegee syphilis experiment. The study began in the early 1930s when medicines for syphilis were very toxic. Public Health Service (government) was making a study to find better ways of treating patients with syphilis. In the 1940s, penicillin was found to be an effective cure. But the experiment continued and those patients in the study were not given penicillin. That scientific study should have concluded with treatment but it did not. When the experiemtal program was stopped, new ethical standards were set for research. The drug studies today follow ethical procedures.
TnGelding
August 3rd, 2009
4:40 am
@@
August 2nd, 2009
11:43 pm
…your taxes are going to be going up.
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
August 3rd, 2009
5:17 am
Looky at the IR/YW. He gets all upset and starts on another of his name-calling rants when ever anyone challenges his lies.
Challenging my “lies-”
Feel free to bathe in DDT if it makes you feel better.
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
August 3rd, 2009
5:23 am
Not only that, the stooge thinks Dow Chemical made war on Vietnam-
Agent Orange was produced by DOW and Monsanto and they are not the government even though they own a sizable number of folks in the government.
clueless
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
August 3rd, 2009
5:32 am
New GI Bill tops Obama’s agenda- The Veterans Affairs Department began distributing tuition payments to schools participating in the program over the weekend. In the next decade, $78 billion is expected to be paid out.-Urinal
What’s another 78 billion to our children?
Doggone/GA
August 3rd, 2009
6:53 am
“Yesterday, Doggone said that doctors should have no influence in the new Healthcare Bill being set up ”
I said no such thing. Don’t put out a false, lying quote attributed to me and then expect me to defend the lie. Defend your own lies and quit blaming them on someone else. Ever heard of being responsible for your own lies? You said it, you own it.
Finn McCool
August 3rd, 2009
7:13 am
Ok, I’m ready to view pics of some really big fish and coolers full of the haul.
Finn McCool
August 3rd, 2009
7:25 am
I Report writes: New GI Bill tops Obama’s agenda….What’s another 78 billion to our children?
It’s ok when our troops are doing the fighting: They are the best in any land. But offer them an education and the best benefits money can buy? Guess not.
DB, Gwinnettian
August 3rd, 2009
7:26 am
I’m ready to view pics of some really big fish and coolers full of the haul.
while such a post would come as no surprise, I’m thinking he’ll be commenting on the Deathers before the morning is out.
Rightwing Troll
August 3rd, 2009
7:28 am
22 pages of rightwing troll rants…
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
TnGelding
August 3rd, 2009
7:44 am
I Report
You Whine 
August 3rd, 2009
5:32 am
It’s an investment in our children and grandchildren that have served their country that will repay itself many times over their lifetimes in higher government revenue. Not to mention a more happy, stable, competitive and productive society.
“Investing in the Next Greatest Generation”
http://www.newgibill.org/blog/investing_next_greatest_generation
“Veterans Will See Big Benefits Increase In Just-Passed GI Bill”
“With the stroke of his pen on Monday, President George W. Bush helped usher into law the most sweeping change in the GI Bill since the veterans-education plan’s inception after World War II. Under a new $63 billion provision, veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts will be eligible for nearly twice as much tuition and housing funds as they were previously.”
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1590428/20080703/id_0.jhtml
TnGelding
August 3rd, 2009
7:46 am
I’m disappointed the vacation boy hasn’t already honored us with his wit and wisdom.
TnGelding
August 3rd, 2009
7:49 am
jt
August 2nd, 2009
10:42 pm
That’s reality in the Bush dynasty’s new world order.
But they make cars here and plenty of us own stock in the companies.
DB, Gwinnettian
August 3rd, 2009
7:52 am
“I think I would take even a bad health bill if it got there through reconciliation. The shrieking and wailing from Broder-Land would be sweet, sweet music.”
I probably shouldn’t, because merely ticking off conservatives shouldn’t be an end to itself, but yeah–I pretty much agree with that.
USinUK
August 3rd, 2009
7:53 am
“22 pages of rightwing troll rants”
nope – there is a break on Friday with 3 pages of videos and drinking …
USinUK
August 3rd, 2009
7:54 am
Finn –
“It’s ok when our troops are doing the fighting: They are the best in any land. But offer them an education and the best benefits money can buy? Guess not.”
geez Finn … I’m SURE Whiner put a big ol’ yaller sticker on his pick-em-up-truck … you mean that’s not enough “supportin’” of the troops???
DB, Gwinnettian
August 3rd, 2009
7:55 am
USinUK, would it be wrong for me to change my handle to one that winds up honoring a band about which I was always pretty “meh”?
USinUK
August 3rd, 2009
7:57 am
Gwinecian –
“USinUK, would it be wrong for me to change my handle to one that winds up honoring a band about which I was always pretty “meh”?”
depends on the band … if it’s Creed or Guns-n-Roses or White Snake, then yes.
stands for decibels
August 3rd, 2009
8:00 am
Creed or Guns-n-Roses or White Snake,
(heh. the notion that I could ever be merely “meh” about an abomination like GnR…)
New handle it is, then.
Who You Gonna Call
August 3rd, 2009
8:01 am
jt
August 2nd, 2009
10:14 pm
“Australia model shows public health care option can work”
Many goverment programs DO work…….for a short time.
Then they degrade into parasitic slush funds for the politically correct. Americans usually tolerate these slush funds for soybeans, pesticides, and murder weapons because they usually can avoid them.
Not so with our medical field.
I believe the Australian program has been working since the seventies. As for those nasty slush funds, that’s a US thing. You big business buys whatever they want from government, then they kill and pollute and finally the government collects taxes from the citizens to clean up the messes left by big business.
Who You Gonna Call
August 3rd, 2009
8:03 am
Good morning, IR/YW. I see you are off to an early start with the name calling rants and more twisted tall tales. Keep up the good work.
Who You Gonna Call
August 3rd, 2009
8:09 am
Not only that, the stooge thinks Dow Chemical made war on Vietnam
Your reading comprehension skills are sadly lacking. Show me where I said that, clueless one.
Who You Gonna Call
August 3rd, 2009
8:13 am
Our government shrugs off the millions of deaths it causes, the millions it starves, and then it moves on to it’s next bright idea.
Government housing projects, anyone?
Our founding fathers fought against rampant government and for freedom, they would puke on you sorry socialists.
I challenge you to prove it. I think it is a lie.
Who You Gonna Call
August 3rd, 2009
8:17 am
Don’t forget, the US government sought to demonize DDT and the resulting ban killed 500,000 children.
Not true.
Who You Gonna Call
August 3rd, 2009
8:19 am
Feel free to bathe in DDT if it makes you feel better.
We all did when we were children, moron, they sprayed whole neighborhoods to control mosquitos.
All those dead African children weren’t provided such benefits, so unlike us, who live full, happy lives, they got to die terrible deaths from malaria.
You seem awfully proud of yourself, sicko.
Not true.
Who You Gonna Call
August 3rd, 2009
8:21 am
The government decided to use Agent Orange, hole shot, same as they decide they want government run health care.
That’s why our founding fathers limited them.
They would vomit if they knew you.
Not true.
TnGelding
August 3rd, 2009
8:34 am
“Ask AP: Income taxes, states without budget woes”
“Have any states managed to avoid this sort of budgetary mess – and, if so, how?”
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation/AP/story/1165535.html
(Apologies for the erroneous link before.)
Dusty
August 3rd, 2009
11:03 am
OK, Doggone @ 6:53
You do so love to call conservatives “liars”. Doesn’t matter much but……
Aug. 1 @ 10:10 you wrote about Dr. Williamson, President of the Georgia Medical Association, “He is commenting on a bill before Congress which has nothing to do with his profession.” I believe that means YOU do not think doctors should have a voice on the healthcare bill. I disagree with you..
You also said something about lawyers being repsonsibllle for this bill. I guess you did not say that either.
Your connotations speak louder than your accusations, Doggone. You need to cheer up a bit. Trying to condemn conservatives every word is hardly a happy pursuit. So much twisting and turning. Try something else.
TnGelding
August 4th, 2009
12:00 am
Dusty got the last word….almost.