Gone fishin’

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DB, Gwinnettian

July 30th, 2009
3:27 pm

Shoot it at the insurance company?

I wonder how that particular “public option” would poll?

Scooter

July 30th, 2009
3:36 pm

I’m not sure but best I can tell HC reform will not benefit me????

Kamchak

July 30th, 2009
3:39 pm

Paul, I’ll plea the 5th!

Make mine a quart.

AmVet

July 30th, 2009
3:41 pm

USinUK, thanks. That eponymous album that debuted in 1973 is a must have for any true rock and roll collector. I had forgotten that they opened for the Who’s Quadrophenia tour a year later.

Man those were the heady days of REAL music.

Scooter, Tull was the third show I ever saw (after Alice Cooper and Led Zeppelin a few months earlier). Wow! Soft little interludes followed immediately by explosive crescendos. And Ian Anderson was just amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wtXxXIejds

Paul

July 30th, 2009
4:11 pm

AmVet

Nice posts the other day about the exploding number of lobbyists and how many of them are exCongressmen and staffers.

Back to my refrain: Democratic Congress could pass legislation prohibiting any exCongressman or staffer from engaging in lobbying for N years. Same for Cabinet officials.

It’s easy.

But even Democrats won’t do it.

@@

July 30th, 2009
4:16 pm

USinUK:

Since you’re so enamored with what the American Assoc. of Obstetrics and Gynecology has to say, howz’bout this:

Drug Abuse During Subsequent Pregnancies Five Times More Likely — Among women delivering their first pregnancy, women with a history of abortion are five times more likely to use illicit drugs and two times more likely to use alcohol during their pregnancies. This substance use places their unborn children at risk of birth defects, low birth weight, and death.

and all the other claims/studies.

I can assume that “Unfair Choice” is a pro-life site but feel free to research every article referenced….By source. No cherry-picking…each and every claim must be validated or refuted by you.

Luv, Scarlet – The Pimpernel, jus’ lookin’ at the world.

Youth is a force that no power on earth can drive, but which a silken thread can often lead — all the more easily when the thread is in the hands of a pretty woman. [without a brain] (EAM)

There has never been, there is not, and there never can be such a thing as equality, [among the sexes] (EAM) and every attempt to establish so false an axiom is doomed to tragedy or farce. Nature herself has set her face against it: brains, talent, beauty, imagination, every gift physical and mental she has dealt with a lavish hand to some and parsimoniously to others. And therefore the attempt to equalize these gifts by means of the steamroller of Progress can only result in levelling them down to the lowest faculties of man. A steamroller cannot build up; it can only crush.

Modern progress is fast outgrowing its strength. Equal education for a genius or a dunce, the taxation of the worker so that the idler may loaf, pleasures and entertainments in gaol so that the criminal might have equal opportunities for relaxation as the honest man, these and other factors in the so-called advance of civilization are like a two-edged sword.

@@

July 30th, 2009
4:28 pm

Now, onto other things. My husband and I are now at odds. As I mentioned, he’s going for the “cash for clunkers” — government’s environmental largesse. It’s a perfectly good truck he’ll be trading…runs great, looks great through the loving hand of good maintenance.

The dealer is required to pour liquid glass into the engine and transmission thereby rendering it impotent.

There’s somebody out there who could USE THAT TRUCK. I’d rather donate it to one of those charitable organizations whose intent is to help people as opposed to the environment.

This story ain’t over.

getalife

July 30th, 2009
4:41 pm

@@,

“The dealer is required to pour liquid glass into the engine and transmission thereby rendering it impotent.”
Huh?

USinUK

July 30th, 2009
4:53 pm

@@ –

hahahaha … first of all … citing the American Assoc of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists as a credible unbiased source of data??? you who gets your knickers in a twist saying PP has an agenda???

secondly, again the abortion doesn’t cause the infant death – the drug use does.

and, lastly, I’d love to see their data and how they separated causation from correlation. in other words, how many of those women who had abortions were drug users PRIOR to the abortion and continued after. because, according to a study published by the NIH, “the risk of premarital teen pregnancy is nearly four times as high for those who have used illicit drugs other than marijuana as for those with no history of any prior substance involvement. Furthermore, illicit drug use increases the likelihood of an abortion by a factor of 5.”

I know how you anti-choicers love to say that abortion wrecks lives – and, I’m sure there are some women who regret their decision. however, MOST WOMEN FEEL RELIEF. I refer you to the Guttmacher Institute:

“The APA review determined that legal abortion of an unwanted pregnancy “does not pose a psychological hazard for most women.” As summarized in the Guttmacher Institute’s May 2006 report, Abortion in Women’s Lives, the APA found that “women who are terminating pregnancies that are wanted or who lack support from their partner or parents for the abortion may feel a greater sense of loss, anxiety and distress. For most women, however, the time of greatest distress is likely to be before an abortion; after an abortion, women frequently report feeling ‘relief and happiness.’”

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/gpr/09/3/gpr090308.html

USinUK

July 30th, 2009
4:57 pm

and, with that, I’m off to sleepyland …

your Friday traveling music will be posted just around 2 your time so you guys will have it first thing when you get up …

night, all!!

Paul

July 30th, 2009
4:59 pm

@@

Sounds as if you and your husband are coming at it from two different direction.

He’d get a new vehicle with more safety, better mileage, modern capabilities – plus he’d save a bunch of bucks.

You’d like to donate. Recent changes limit, I believe, the value of the vehicle to the fair market value for deduction as a charitable contribution. So the savings would be fair market value times marginal tax rate equals tax savings.

The point of the program is to get the older gas guzzlers off the road, even if they have life left in them. You are correct – someone else could use it. But to make a difference, it should go to someone who doesn’t have a vehicle, or to someone whose vehicle is much less reliable than yours.

BTW – trading in an older vehicle like that – most dealers send’em off to auction where they’d go to a corner used car lot or out for scrap.

Good luck.

PS – why on earth would your husband ever think he’d win an argument with you?!!?

Normal

July 30th, 2009
5:06 pm

Scooter, your 12:01 Great song and believe it or not, the first 45 I ever bought. Thanks
———————————-

Normal

July 30th, 2009
5:09 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wNNVikqOoI

an earlypost for tomorrow, but I worked with this in Groton, CT years ago. We’ve been friends for all these years and when he is in town, I always go see him. Josef, you might like this song…

josef nix

July 30th, 2009
5:11 pm

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“The dealer is required to pour liquid glass into the engine and transmission thereby rendering it impotent.”
There’s somebody out there who could USE THAT TRUCK. I’d rather donate it to one of those charitable organizations whose intent is to help people as opposed to the environment.

You shouldn’t have told me that! Just how insane are those in charge of these things? Talk about stupid! The asylum has been taken over by the inmates.

Just how many working poor could be given a leg up with this? Aw, who cares, lip service is good enough for them…this truck could be just what someone trying to become an independent contractor needs. I’m so d*mned tired of Fierce Advocate’s drag show, I’m ready to run screaming into the night. If you took their collective brain and put it in a pig it would root with its a**! And, no, I don’t think the GOP is one whit better (or worse)…

This just puts the capper on it for me. The very idea!

Oh, well, i take solace that there are those community organizers who still make the effort to recycle used vehicles in an empathetic fashion. Hopefully they’ll put up a strong enough fuss on this one.

josef nix

July 30th, 2009
5:19 pm

NORMAL–Wow! What poetry..”turned boys into men and men into memories…” Thanks…

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

July 30th, 2009
5:23 pm

WASHINGTON (AP) – House Democrats have declined to subpoena available records that might reveal whether other members of Congress got discounted VIP mortgages from subprime lender Countrywide Financial Corp. similar to the sweetheart deals given Democratic Sens. Chris Dodd and Kent Conrad.

Aahhh, yes, the same people that subpoenaed Dick Cheney’s dog.

bark, bark.

I guess they are some things they just don’t want to know.

We Don't Need No Steenking Government

July 30th, 2009
5:26 pm

Republicans Lying to Old People About Euthanasia, Robots

Duh. Save the electrons and just print the first two words of that headline. It says it all.

Scooter

July 30th, 2009
5:27 pm

Normal, you sure know how to come up with tear-jerkers. You are welcome for the 12:01.It just seemed to fit?????

@@

July 30th, 2009
5:29 pm

Getalife:

The engine and transmission are seized up preventing the vehicle from ever running again.

USinUK:

I pointed out that it was a pro-life organization. Wasn’t trying to deceive. Lots of info from lots of sources. You’re free to research each and every claim.

and, lastly, I’d love to see their data and how they separated causation from correlation. in other words, how many of those women who had abortions were drug users PRIOR to the abortion and continued after.

There again…why not do your own study to refute their claims. How about the ones who had support from their partners and/or parents but decided to have one anyway?

And for the record…I have never attended a church service where sex itself, was deemed BAD, BAD, BAD. To the contrary — it is presented as a blessing to be enjoyed — taking into account the potential for consequences. Personal responsibility is a big deal in the scriptures.

I can only laugh when I see you guys aim all your social frustrations at the church….which, in my opinion, was your intended target all along.

It was my turn, this past Sunday, to read the scripture lessons — OT and NT. It never fails…when my turn comes around, it’s more likely than not that I’m offering up David. After the service I went to my minister and asked “What’s goin’ on? I’m a wee bit tired of having to cover David and his manly vigor. It’s a guy thing! Can’t one of the guys cover him?”

“David, An Ordinary Man in Extraordinary Hands.”

A good book.

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

July 30th, 2009
5:29 pm

Saudi Arabia follows an austere form of Islam where religious police patrol the streets to enforce a strict moral standard including no mixing of unrelated men and women, as well as no drugs and alcohol.-Reuters/ Sniveling Kowards

“Austere,” eh?

Let Christians start busting up kissy face, see what happens.

GreenJeans

July 30th, 2009
5:32 pm

Wife: “Honey, if I were to die, would you ever remarry?”
Husband: “I guess so. Why?”

Wife: “Well, I was just wondering if you’d ever live in this house with her.”
Husband: “I guess so. It’s almost paid for, and I love it. Why?”

Wife: “Well, I was wondering if you’d sleep with her in our bed.”
Husband: “We might change the mattress, but yea, it’s a good bed. Goes with the furniture. Why?”

Wife: “Would you let her drive my car?”
Husband: Well that one’s paid for and it runs good, so I think so, yes. Why?”

Wife: “Would you let her wear my clothes?”
Husband: “If they fit her and look good, and she wanted them, yes. Why?”

Wife: “You’d let her wear my jewelry?”
Husband: “Sure, if she wanted it. Why?”

Wife: “You’d take her to our golf club?”
Husband: “Sure.”

Wife: “You’d let her use my golf clubs?”
Husband: “No.”

Wife: “Why not?”
Husband: “Because she’s left-handed.”

OOOOooops…

Pogo

July 30th, 2009
5:34 pm

Obama is fast losing the people that elected him; the centrist, working class people. It is becoming apparent to them very quickly that his allegiances lie with the socialist and political correctness crowd with which he has spent his entire life and in the process he is alienating a huge consituency which will destroy his presidency. He either moves to the middle very soon and adopts some humility or he is doomed. His arrogance days are over if he has any brain at all. The Treasury is currently trying to sell 2 TRILLION in bonds to finance Obama and Nancy’s “Excellent Adventure” and it is not working out too well. Nobody wants them. If no-one buys them, and indications are they are not going to, inflation is about to rear its ugly head in a most unkind manner to Mr. Obama and the hideous Mrs. Pelosi. So all of you liberals out there, you can continue to spin this Presidency and this Congress any way you want to but as usual, the American public is smarter than the pundits, the media and you.

Normal

July 30th, 2009
5:36 pm

Scooter

July 30th, 2009
5:41 pm

GreenJeans, the only thing worse than telling on yourself is getting what you ask for. eh!

@@

July 30th, 2009
5:42 pm

Stupid paragraph closer. Required or not, AJC?

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

July 30th, 2009
5:46 pm

Uh oh-

“Typically the people who are involved with bestiality will have a difficult time being aroused by regular sex,” Marks said. “Many people will be very ashamed of it.”

Because of that shame, it is usually an outside force that will lead someone to seek treatment, such as a spouse’s demand or an incident with law enforcement.

“The treatment is behavioral therapy, which in generally involves decreasing the level of the arousal that people would have to this,” Marks said. “It’s hard not to laugh, but it’s a serious condition.”-Urinal

Hmmmm, so deviant sexual behavior can treated.

DoggoneGA

July 30th, 2009
5:48 pm

“BTW – trading in an older vehicle like that – most dealers send’em off to auction where they’d go to a corner used car lot or out for scrap.”

Not if you trade it in under the “Clunkers” program. As was pointed out – a bit badly – up thread, THOSE clunkers have to be rendered useless and unfixable.

Hillbilly Deluxe

July 30th, 2009
5:53 pm

Normal @ 5:09

Good post. Never heard of the guy or the song but I liked it.

Most people don’t realize that when Lee surrendered at Appomattox Courthouse, he surrendered the Army of Northern Virginia not the entire Confederate military.

And Pickett’s Charge wasn’t Pickett’s Charge at all, it was Gen. Lee’s charge. Longstreet tried to no avail to talk him out of it. Pickett’s Division was only one of the three divisions that made the charge.

Most of the attention went to the Army of Northern Virginia but the Army of Tennessee fought as hard or harder but suffered throughout the war from poor commanders. And as bloody and futile as Pickett’s Charge was, in my opinion it was less so than the ill fated and lesser known charge at the Battle of Franklin, Tennessee.

@@

July 30th, 2009
5:55 pm

Paul:

My husband will win on this one ’cause the deal has been done.

Our neighbor knows some guy who’s goin’ thru hard times (construction worker). He’s coming over to strip the truck for parts before turning it over to the dealer. If my husband let’s him walk away with no charge, he’ll have my blessing. If not

I’ll make amends for his greed through the back door. By the time he finds out, the check will have cleared the bank.

DoggoneGA

July 30th, 2009
5:56 pm

“Hmmmm, so deviant sexual behavior can treated”

Be sure to let us know how your treatment goes.

Scooter

July 30th, 2009
5:57 pm

Well, Normal, if I can remember Francis in Paris you know I can remember that movie! Old hippie. Just saying….

@@

July 30th, 2009
6:00 pm

BETTER YET!!!!

He can donate our daughter’s car and let the guy have the parts for free!!!

That should do it! If not….

Thanks, Paul.

TnGelding

July 30th, 2009
6:02 pm

Scooter

July 30th, 2009
3:36 pm

VA might be an option. Have you ever been treated there before?

“VA health benefits are open to all Veterans. Family members may also be eligible to receive benefits. There is no monthly premium for VA care, but there may be a co-pay. Apply now.”

http://www1.va.gov/health/index.asp

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

July 30th, 2009
6:04 pm

Will Special Interests Stymie Health-Care Reform? By JOE KLEIN, Sniff, sniff

Got to blame some one other than Obozo, right, toadies?

Too bad bookman ain’t here, he could join the chorus of hacks.

I mean he would join the chorus of hacks.

ew

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

July 30th, 2009
6:04 pm

Well, it just makes my hair stand on end to hear @@’s husband is going to let them wreck a good truck. But she says the deal’s already done.

So I reckon he won’t hear about it no more except once a week and every time they have a argument for the next 30 years. He’ll go to his grave happily. I know how @@ fights and she fights downright dirty. He’ll wish he kept that old truck and he’ll kick hisself in the pants every time he gets in the new one. My old hound Ace will get treated alot better than him.

Have a good night everybody.

Normal

July 30th, 2009
6:05 pm

Hillbilly, you are correct.. Bobby Lee was brilliant and the other Confederate Generals less so except perhaps for Nathan Bedford Forrest.
Being an ex-military man, I am a student of tactics and I have always believed in General Longstreet’s views on how the South should have fought the war. Static defenses. The south had no hope to win against the Norths manpower and industrial might any other way. It takes three to five times the manpower to defeat static defenses. The South had to bleed the North in body count. The Northern populace would have turned against the war and demanded an armistice..Lee had his chance at Gettysburg and blew it. It was winnable for him but he made bad mistakes.

TnGelding

July 30th, 2009
6:07 pm

Gandalf of Gwinnesia

July 30th, 2009
1:05 pm

This Carter fella was awfully powerful; must have truly been a man of God.

“US adviser to Iraqi military urges early US exit”

WASHINGTON — A U.S. Army adviser to the Iraqi military command in Baghdad argues in an internal memo that the U.S. should “declare victory and go home” next year, 16 months ahead of schedule.

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/us-adviser-to-iraqi-104572.html

Normal

July 30th, 2009
6:08 pm

We Don't Need No Steenking Government

July 30th, 2009
6:09 pm

Isn’t there also a requirement that the vehicle start in order to cash in on that cash for clunkers program. Might want to leave the starter and battery and carburetor or fuel injectors and intake manifold and ignition system, and heads, etc. I’m not sure if it has to be capable of unassisted motion though. That would open up the possibility of salvaging tires and rims and differential and drive shaft and even the sheet metal.

Paul

July 30th, 2009
6:10 pm

DoggoneGA

I was responding to @@ who was upset the car would be destroyed. I was pointing out options.

@@

When I read those comments of how you’ll get even with your husband I have these involuntary constrictions hit.

Something about stilettos -

TnGelding

July 30th, 2009
6:22 pm

@@

July 30th, 2009
6:22 pm

RC:

My old hound Ace will get treated alot better than him.

That’s so not true. As much as I love confrontations, I love my husband a hundred times more. Adore him, actually.

To give you a sense of our relationship, I can recall a confrontation I had with some guy while out on the town. My husband sat idle. When I asked him where was his support? he responded with…

“When did you start wearing a bra? I’ve never known you to need support.”

Awwwwww…he’s so sweet.

Steenker:

The car will be drivable. You can bet on it. May not look like much when delivered but…

Normal

July 30th, 2009
6:28 pm

SCOOTER, you did some Tull awhile ago…this is my favorite Jethro..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmJO2hc3Xh4

DoggoneGA

July 30th, 2009
6:29 pm

“Isn’t there also a requirement that the vehicle start in order to cash in on that cash for clunkers program”

Yes, it has to be drivable and it has to belong, free and clear, to the person turning it in. And if I remember correctly, you have to have owned it for at least a year and it has to be licensed.

Scooter

July 30th, 2009
6:32 pm

TnGelding, No, I have never been treated at the VA. I am registered with them though.No co-pay! No family. Thank you VERY MUCH for the link anyway. I do not want to burden the VA and will only go there as a last resort. Thank goodness my health is good right now!

Kamchak

July 30th, 2009
6:40 pm

Just a few conditions in the cash for clunkers program:

Your old vehicle must be insured and registered in your name for at least one year immediately prior to trade in.

Your vehicle must be in drivable condition. When they say “clunker” they don’t mean a scrap of metal overgrown by nature.

Your vehicle must be less than 25 years old on the trade-in date. No Model T’s please.

The new vehicle that you buy must cost less than $45,000.

There are further conditions for light and heavy duty trucks plus mileage conditions on passenger cars.

Scooter

July 30th, 2009
6:44 pm

RW-(the original)

July 30th, 2009
6:51 pm

Do you suppose Guinness has a record for the most blog comments ever generated by a picture of a trout?

Hillbilly Deluxe

July 30th, 2009
6:51 pm

Normal

I agree with you for the most part. Lee did mess up at Gettysburg but on the whole of the war, he did quite well. Losing Jackson was a big blow to him as he leaned on him quite a bit. Longstreet was a master counter-puncher and that is what really was called for. I think Lee was a product of his times and he was fighting a “gentleman’s war” when times were changing. A defensive war would probably have worked better or in my opinion a guerilla type war would have been better still from a military standpoint.

I wonder if Lee would have gone to Gettysburg if not for the political factor. They were trying to take the war to the North to gain political recognition from England and others. It may have been a good political move (had it worked) but wasn’t really good militarily in my view.

And casualties were so high because it was the last war with ancient tactics (mass forces and charge) and the first with modern weaponry. It must have been sheer hell making those charges into volleys of canister. It’s always amazed me that the men on both sides had such a sense of duty that they would go into battle knowing odds were they’d be slaughtered.

At Franklin, TN, Gen. Cleburne (another very good general) and his subordinate general, Gen. Govan were looking over the battlefield before the charge. As they observed the Union entrenchments, Govan said to Cleburne, “It doesn’t look like many of us will be going back to Arkansas”. Cleburne’s reply was, “If we must die, let us die like men”. And within an hour or two he was dead, one of 5 Confederate Generals killed that day. I find that kind of courage mind-boggling. You got to tip your hat to men like that on either side.

I’ve read virtually everything I can on Bedford Forrest and I think the man was a tactical genius. He wasn’t from a military background but his knowledge was instinctive. I wonder if he’d been given command of the Army of Tennessee, say about 1863 or so, how things might have been. Jefferson Davis even said as much years later.

I’m sure you also know that most people on both sides thought it would be a short war but Sherman and Lee both thought differently. In a letter to his wife trying to talk his son out of enlisting he told her the war might well last 10 years.

The deeper you dig into history the more interesting it gets. It’s a shame we were just taught the headlines in school.

josef nix

July 30th, 2009
6:54 pm

Okay, those who give a s**t, take note that my 6:41 was held for moderation. Keep it on record.

Okay, Jay, the jury is in and/or you or the AJC is guilty as charged. You and/or your publication are bigots of the klanner/nazi stripe and you can no longer deny it.

Good-bye all. I have had a good time here, but I can no longer put my name to such outrages against intellectual discourse..

Kamchak

July 30th, 2009
6:55 pm

RW

Thanks for the link earlier. Your tutorial site—-very easy to understand. I did notice that you had no instructions regarding emoticons.

Hillbilly Deluxe

July 30th, 2009
6:56 pm

I do not want to burden the VA and will only go there as a last resort.

I admire you for that Scooter. My Daddy is a WWII vet but didn’t see action. Somebody asked him why he never went to the VA and he said, “That’s for the boys who were in combat”. He rarely mentions his service but if he ever does he is always quick to point out “I didn’t see action”. He had a brother and some cousins who did see serious action (D-Day, Battle of the Bulge, etc.complete with Purple Hearts). He says they are the ones to brag on, not him.

RW-(the original)

July 30th, 2009
6:57 pm

josef,

The Wordpress format is a mystery even to it’s creators. You really shouldn’t hold it against the hapless staff of the AJC.

Scooter

July 30th, 2009
6:57 pm

RW, let’s go for it! We can always start a new category for the book if there is not one now.

RW-(the original)

July 30th, 2009
6:58 pm

@@

July 30th, 2009
7:00 pm

O.K. it’s the Civil War. Question:

I have a friend — one of the smartest guys I know. Big into his family’s genealogy. He occasionally joins in the battle reenactments. He wears a kilt.

Why is that? Were there Scotsman who fought in the Civil War?

RW-(the original)

July 30th, 2009
7:02 pm

Scooter,

I feel pretty safe in saying we’ve already broken the record. We just need to get them to recognize it.

Kamchak

July 30th, 2009
7:04 pm

RW

Yeah I know how to use them now—-I also know of your disdain for them.

Curious Observer

July 30th, 2009
7:08 pm

They were trying to take the war to the North to gain political recognition from England and others. It may have been a good political move (had it worked) but wasn’t really good militarily in my view.

Perhaps, but my understanding was that the primary purpose was to take pressure off Vicksburg and force the North to divert forces from there in the event that Lee won the battle at Gettysburg. Of course, Lee’s decision to launch a full frontal assault with forces that didn’t even come close to the traditional 3 to 1 advantage for an offensive force made the entire purpose academic.

Scooter

July 30th, 2009
7:08 pm

Hillbilly, I feel the same as your dad and had family that saw action.The only action I saw was “flower children” shooting peace signs at me at Travis AFB. Thank goodness. Whew!

Normal

July 30th, 2009
7:09 pm

@@ The 78th and 79th Regiment of New york wore kilts. Yankee cross dressers, if you ask me

@@

July 30th, 2009
7:11 pm

RW:

I hope you’re not handing out instructions for EMOTICONS.

A smiley face following an insult holds no value with me.

Rolling eyes, snarling lips. Subversive little creatures, they are.

SUBVERSIVE I SAY!!!!!!

Not to mention when I edit “for all” @s, there all over the dang screen. Some of ‘em sneering at me.

Stoopid emoticons.

josef nix

July 30th, 2009
7:11 pm

Enter your comments here

Hillbilly Deluxe

July 30th, 2009
7:12 pm

@@

A good many soldiers on both sides in the war were native Irishmen so I’d assume their were Scots as well. Some northern units also had native Germans; I’m not sure if the South did or not. Usually these men had immigrated here and joined up with what ever region they lived in.

The units were all formed locally. May be one reason for the courage, if you ran, everyone back home would know. It also meant that if a unit got wiped out, as some did, there were no more men in that town and would take a generation or two to overcome that. There was a county in Tennessee, I believe Maury but I may be wrong, where only a handful of men came back out of about 1200. A place in Maine, whose name escapes me, had a similar story. That’s why the services went to the melting pot system they have now. Unit members from all over.

Another point, of military age men in the North something like 35-40% served (due to a much larger population). In the South it was over 90%. And at war’s end about 1 in 4 Southern men were dead and about that many more had suffered some serious injury. I am a direct descendant of 9 veterans of that war. Two died and two maimed. Guess that’s about the average. If you count collateral descendants (uncles) you can add about 30 something more with similar results. I’ve never stopped to try to figure up the cousins.

So it’s no wonder it took decades for things to recover.

We Don't Need No Steenking Government

July 30th, 2009
7:15 pm

Do you suppose Guinness has a record for the most blog comments ever generated by a picture of a trout?

Rainbow, at that. Anyway, I have most certainly done my part for the cause and what do I get for my effort. Hmmph.

On aside note. If the south had won, there wouldn’t be no Republicans.

Normal

July 30th, 2009
7:17 pm

Hill Billy, Forrest was a natural, it’s true. He always said “Get there the firstest with the mostest.” Stonewall, brilliant but erratic. I’m not sure he would have proven valuable had he lasted past Chancellorsville. Morgan and Mosby…there were your “Thorns in the side” if you were Union. Guerrilla warfare on the Unions supply lines and heavy static defences elsewhere and the South would have withstood.

Hillbilly Deluxe

July 30th, 2009
7:19 pm

My 7:12
There not their in line 2 for you teachers. ;-)

Curious Observer

A very valid point about taking pressure off Vicksburg. I just sort of overlooked that. Of course there have been volumes and volumes written about what happened at Gettysburg. My feeling is that Lee found himself in a fight at a time and on ground that wasn’t his choosing. He made a serious mistake but hindsight is 20-20.

There are many different views on the turning point of the war and Gettysburg is the popular one but in my view once the South lost control of the Tennessee and Cumberland Rivers at Fort Donelson they were pretty much behind the 8 ball strategically.

We Don't Need No Steenking Government

July 30th, 2009
7:22 pm

Rumor has it there are some caves in Tennessee where Johnny Reb is still hiding out to this day. He’s been living off of cave fish and moonshine. He’s a rowdy one and pale as a ghost. That’s also where most of the sightings of Elvis come from too. Up near Dollywood. He always did have a thang for her.

Scooter

July 30th, 2009
7:22 pm

The South did not face 3 to 1 odds. It was 7 to 1 odds at the end because of the Draft. No link but that’s my story and I’m sticking to it!

Hillbilly Deluxe

July 30th, 2009
7:23 pm

Normal @ 7:17

Forrest also said, “15 minutes of skeer is worth 2 hours of tactics”. He proved that true time and again.

Hard to say about Jackson. It’s a question that can never be answered. Hard to say how his men would have held up over the long haul, the way he marched them 30 miles a day and all. As rations got shorter and shorter that probably would have taken it’s toll.

Kamchak

July 30th, 2009
7:25 pm

RW

Can you answer a question about youtube? Earlier, I search for “Apolitical Blues” by Little Feat and finally found a version to link—but first I watched it. When I posted it later, I got a message “This video is not available” and it’s not the first time that has occured. Any ideas on what happened?

Hillbilly Deluxe

July 30th, 2009
7:25 pm

WDDNNSG

Of all the people I ever knew that made corn liquor (and that’s quite a list). I never heard one of ‘em call it moonshine.

@@

July 30th, 2009
7:25 pm

Normal:

His roots are southern so I’m thinkin’ he’s ah rebel on the battlefield. He’s more or less a libertarian who votes conservative if there’s one to be found.

RW-(the original)

July 30th, 2009
7:27 pm

@@,

I pass along those emoticon instructions as often as possible. It’s an easy thing for the administrator to turn off and I figure if we allow it to get obnoxious enough they’ll do just that. (ISH)

Hillbilly Deluxe

July 30th, 2009
7:30 pm

Kamchak

I see that sometimes too. Warner Brothers Music has pulled down many youtube postings for copyright infringement. Don’t know if that applies to Little Feat or not. I was gonna post the Boz Skaggs, 18 minute song, “Loan Me A Dime” for Travelin Music a couple weeks back but it’s been pulled down. To me that’s the finest guitar playing Duane Allman ever did. If anybody wants to check it out it’s on the Duane Allman Anthology.

I also have some youtube posts that I can pull up the page but never get to play. I think maybe that’s cause my puter is a Brontosaurus 9000. I need a new one but hey times are hard.

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

July 30th, 2009
7:31 pm

RW-(the original)

July 30th, 2009
7:31 pm

Kamchak,

Unless you got incredibly lucky/unlucky with the timing that doesn’t sound right. There seem to be a few versions here that work.

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

July 30th, 2009
7:32 pm

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

July 30th, 2009
7:32 pm

Normal

July 30th, 2009
7:33 pm

@@ I’ll check on Southern kilts and get back to you.

@@

July 30th, 2009
7:36 pm

RW:

Why would jay put a stop to obnoxious emoticons when they’re attached to obnoxious….

KNOW what I’m sayin!!!

J/K….jus’ sayin’

No, REALLY J/K or J/S?

@@

July 30th, 2009
7:37 pm

Knock it off, Andy!!!

J/K

J/S

(IFWYLAKYA)

@@

July 30th, 2009
7:38 pm

Okey Dokey, Normal.

Goin’ to find Hillbilly’s Allman connection.

Normal

July 30th, 2009
7:40 pm

SCOOTER: Isn’t it funny that the first draft our nation ever had was implemented by its first President? And if you haven’t read about this already, you should read about Lincolns denial of civil liberties. I swear you could substitute the name of Bush for Lincoln or visa versa and it would read the same…scary…

Normal

July 30th, 2009
7:41 pm

should read Republican’s first president

Disgusted

July 30th, 2009
7:43 pm

Of all the people I ever knew that made corn liquor (and that’s quite a list). I never heard one of ‘em call it moonshine.

The makers of it never referred to it that way, but some users and non-users did. Usually, the term used by the makers was either corn liquor or corn squeezins. At least that’s my memory from growing up in moonshine country where one had to be careful about where he walked in the woods. Today, sadly, the danger in that area is no longer moonshiners but those who grow marijuana and set deadly traps for hapless intruders.

@@

July 30th, 2009
7:49 pm

Here ’tis, let’s hope.

Who is that on the album cover? Scaggs or Allman?

He’s very thin.

Kamchak

July 30th, 2009
7:50 pm

Unless you got incredibly lucky/unlucky with the timing….

Describes my life to a “T”. Timing is everything.

We Don't Need No Steenking Government

July 30th, 2009
7:53 pm

I never heard one of ‘em call it moonshine.

It’s still slang, HD, for the stuff. Shine, liquor, whiskey. My pappy gave me a swallow when I was young and I tried to catch my breath right after it went down and I thought for a minute that I was gonna die ’cause I couldn’t get any air down to my lungs. Anyway, what’d you call it. My pappy did not brew the stuff so maybe he just never learned the proper thing to call it and could not pass down its proper name to me.

Hillbilly Deluxe

July 30th, 2009
7:53 pm

Amusing story:

Daddy and I were trying to find a waterfall once. I had never been there and it had been about 40 years for him. We found the creek but things change and he wasn’t quite sure where he was. As we were moving downstream he was telling me that there used to be a house close to the falls. As we walked along we came up on a couple of rusted out hogs from an old still. Daddy said, “Well we’ve got to be mighty close to the old house place because that bunch was too damn lazy to tote anything very far”. About 5 more minutes of walking and there were the falls.

getalife

July 30th, 2009
7:57 pm

Semper better hurry:

AP sources: Govt to suspend ‘cash for clunkers’

D’oh!

Hillbilly Deluxe

July 30th, 2009
7:58 pm

@@

That’s Duane. He was killed in Macon in a motorcycle accident, early 70’s. Thanks for posting. I’d hug your neck if I was there. (IWH)

Hillbilly Deluxe

July 30th, 2009
8:05 pm

WDNNSG

Here it was called corn liquor unless of course it was peach or apple brandy. My Grandpa believed in making it the old way without adding sugar. He said if you couldn’t drink it like water to pour it out. If it was made right it shouldn’t burn you. In the 30’s & 40’s when they figured out people in Atlanta and Chattanooga would drink anything, quality went out the window. It became all about money then, like so many things. I know there were people in my family who made it for at least 5 generations probably longer. After WWII when it became possible to make a living other ways, the smart ones quit doing it. As he always told me, “Best leave it alone, it’ll do nothin’ but get you in trouble”.

Bruno

July 30th, 2009
8:07 pm

“and this is what kills me. the same people who argue that the government is going to limit resources and ration healthcare don’t seem to realize that insurance companies already ARE doing this …”

USinUK–You seem to be conveniently forgetting that enrollment in a private insurance plan is a strictly a voluntary choice. And once you choose a particular plan, you most definitely are bound to the limitations of said contract.

Under ObamaCare, there is no choice. If you don’t enroll in their plan, then you are subject to fines which will be directly withdrawn from your checking account. Sounds like liberal fascism to me.

I’m not sure why, but you don’t seem to cherish freedom in the same way I do. Apparently you are content to let the wise government people do the choosing for you. More power to you, but please leave me out of your “compassionate” plans. I’m a big boy who can make his own choices.

Bruno

July 30th, 2009
8:10 pm

“I was certainly moved in strange ways as I tried to ‘feel’ for this so-called business man that moans over the prospect of no longer getting high quality slave labor.”

Out of curiosity, WDNNSG, what exactly drives your irrational bitterness toward successful people? If you had any brains or courage, you might become one yourself. All I see coming from your keyboard is strictly sour grapes. Loser.

DoggoneGA

July 30th, 2009
8:15 pm

“You seem to be conveniently forgetting that enrollment in a private insurance plan is a strictly a voluntary choice”

USING the insurance is voluntary, but I was automatically enrolled in my companies plan when I accepted employment.

jt

July 30th, 2009
8:17 pm

During the Civil War, the supply of some foods in the South started to run low. When coffee became hard to get, the sweet potato was used to make a tasty hot drink. It was cut into thin pieces, dried, ground and brewed just like coffee!
Nearly every large farm in the South had a sweet potato patch during the Civil War. This was a large area with a fence around it where hills of the tubors were covered with straw and soil. This covering protected the sweet potatoes from the cold and frost of winter, helping them become sweet and tasty.

jt

July 30th, 2009
8:22 pm

We Don’t Need No Steenking Government -

The civil war and corn squeeze is above your paygrade too.

Stick to your pre-approved talking points.(profit bad/goverment good).

Hillbilly Deluxe

July 30th, 2009
8:23 pm

Jt

When my Grandpa would go off to work in the fields or to the sawmill, he’d stick a couple of sweet taters in his pocket. That was his dinner. He said they’d stick to your ribs ’til supper time.

@@

July 30th, 2009
8:28 pm

My husband’s Aunt Willie Mae dared me to drink some moonshine (where she got it I don’t know).

It was very warming to my young sole(s).

I YIKED IT!

You’re welcome, Hillbilly. It’s a sl-o-o-ow dancer.

Getalife:

He’s already signed the paperwork which he said was more complicated than what’s required to purchase a house. They have our check for a down payment. The only option offered was to finance. Cash in hand wasn’t good ’nuff.