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USinUK
July 30th, 2009
12:20 pm
@@ –
“I get it USinUK. You’re a big fan of free sex, free contraceptives, free abortion, freedom from responsibility and may the unintended consequences be damned. IT’S ALL ABOUT THE SEX! (emphasis yours)”
well, no. it’s all about good health. and sex is a part of good health. practiced responsibly, you can have a healthy sex life. and, contrary to what you may think, RESPONSIBILITY is key – taking responsibility for your health and that of your partner, taking responsibility for your future by using safe and effective birth control.
“According to Guttmacher abstinence is to be stressed but contraceptives don’t have to be covered as a preventative measure for pregnancy. Contraceptives are covered only as a preventive tool against STI/HIV.”
ohfergawdssake. they’re not recommending that – they’re stating that as the current state of affairs. in fact, further down the page, they reiterate the Surgeon General’s study that “Evidence shows that comprehensive sex education programs that provide information about both abstinence and contraception can help delay the onset of sexual activity among teens, reduce their number of sexual partners and increase contraceptive use when they become sexually active. These findings were underscored in “Call to Action to Promote Sexual Health and Responsible Sexual Behavior,” issued by former Surgeon General David Satcher in June 2001″
jeebus on a jet ski, woman – learn how to effing read.
“The good news is that comprehensive sex education can assist young people in the transitions inherent in adolescence by helping them delay and prepare. According to Douglas Kirby, a senior research scientist at ETR Associates who has analyzed hundreds of program evaluations, there is strong evidence that comprehensive sex education can effectively delay sex among young people, even as it increases condom and overall contraceptive use among sexually active youth.”
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/gpr/10/2/gpr100202.html
in other words, Guttmacher says the exact opposite of what you think they say. well done, you.
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
12:22 pm
GreenJeans –
“As our preacher sometimes says, while pointing out the absurdity of American views of sex: “Sex is really, really BAD! And you need to save it for the one you love!””
HA!! thanks for ending my afternoon with a snort!
and now … i’m heading home …
later taters!
Doggone/GA
July 30th, 2009
12:24 pm
“You see it works both ways”
yes, it does…but then don’t try to turn the back-and-forth of criticism into “touchiness” about freedom of speech. Which is what you did.
Gandalf of Gwinnesia
July 30th, 2009
12:27 pm
Kegger at the White House tonight! Hope Fugly Doesn’t ruin it by showing up in Hooters girl shorts! It’s a setup, Crowley will get a beer and leave and get pulled over for DUI! I wouldn’t drink with OBAMA or GATES, race baiters!
@@
July 30th, 2009
12:32 pm
USinUK:
I’m not arguing against comprehensive sex education. I favor it! You, however, are ignoring the obvious.
Here in Clayton County, GA, sex education is of the comprehensive variety. My daughter participated. Condoms on a cucumber….the whole nine yards. Parents had the option of withholding their children from sex education classes. That’s only right…parents should have that option. I didn’t opt out for my daughter.
Here’s the thing! Teen pregnancies in Clayton County are too high. They’re taught about contraceptives. They’re taught about sex and the consequences. They’re choosing to have sex without benefit of contraceptives thereby choosing to accept or destroy the consequences. Unlike you, I don’t go around celebrating premarital sex among our youth.
My approach always included talks about contraceptives — pointing out that none of them are 100% fool proof. Some are more effective in preventing pregnancy while others open the door for STDs. My last word of advice to my daughter and her friends?
Guys are gonna screw you in more ways than one. It’s what they do if you let ‘em.
Crude but true.
Scooter
July 30th, 2009
12:36 pm
Gandalf, do they make Hooters shorts that big? ewwwwwwww
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 30th, 2009
12:37 pm
We Don’t Need No Steenking Government – you posted
” You see, sweet potato plants are an extremely labor intensive product and the markup on the product,”
Obamanism and Statism thrives on un-informed subcitizens such as you.
Sweet potatos are NOT labor intensive.
Obama-bots should stick to their pre-approved talking points(profit bad, goverment good) and leave real topics alone.
Lay off the sweet potato spud face.
I said “plants”, child. You copied my words correctly and then could not even hold that train of thought long enough to spew your words onto the big screen.
Normal
July 30th, 2009
12:41 pm
Gandalf, be more like this wizard…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0iuaxvkXv4
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 30th, 2009
12:42 pm
Ex-GOP Rep. Tom Davis Warns Republicans: “We’ve Become A Rural And Southern Party”
So, what was the problem with my truly southern slang. I shoulda fit right in. In distinguishable even. Dusty and Co. shoulda been heaping the patriotic praise on me. Or, did I stand out because I was clearly just a smart “a$$” in a crowd of, well, conservative Republicans. Well, it wouldn’t be the first time. Hee Hee Hee, Haw Haw Haw.
Gandalf of Gwinnesia
July 30th, 2009
12:44 pm
Scooter, for some unknow reason, they do make Hooters Shorts that big. NOW Hooter shirts are only available in XXS!
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 30th, 2009
12:46 pm
And, just in case you don’t want to take my word for it, here’s something from the Sweet tater council of California: Sweet Potato production is a long and labor intensive operation. … seed is put into hotbeds to grow plants (called slips) that will later be transplanted into fields…
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
July 30th, 2009
12:47 pm
Three cheers for Obozo!
Only a couple of independents still like him but he’s working on them!
Go, Obozo!
Gandalf of Gwinnesia
July 30th, 2009
12:48 pm
Normal: I am deeply touched by your post. A FLOOD of emotions came over me when I saw Uriah Heep appear. One of my first loves, and the girl who taught me how to steal 2nd and slidd into 3rd base and I used to make out to this song. Monica, I miss you!
Gandalf of Gwinnesia
July 30th, 2009
12:49 pm
I think I might actually cry…
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 30th, 2009
12:50 pm
Normal at 12:41. Did you watch the lead singer’s eyes. I think he was reading off a teleprompter.
Normal
July 30th, 2009
12:54 pm
We Don’t Need No Steenking Government
July 30th, 2009
12:50 pm
—————–
Thanks alot…Clean up on aisle 4…LOL!
Gandalf of Gwinnesia
July 30th, 2009
1:03 pm
In the magic garden, some were singing, some were dancing,
while the midnight moon shone brightly overhead.
The stars so gayly glistened and the sphinx in silence listened
to the magician tell of lives that he has led.
Let the bells of freedom ring.
Songs of love to Friday’s king.
Let’s all go to the magician’s birthday.
It’s in the forest but not so far away.
Much to do and so much to say,
while we listen to the oaken orchestra play.
Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you.
(Happy birthday – you magician, happy birthday to you.)
(Repeat)
And at the dead of midnight, as we watched the dancing firelight,
the air grew cold and seemed to dour the flame.
The fire died, the music faded, filled with fear of death we waited,
for now we knew some evil was to blame.
I challenge you, I challenge you all
for all you own and all you know
and by all the powers of darkness
I will steal what is mine.
Surrender now or face my spite.
I catch you: It may be Friday night,
but did you know this day also number thirteen.
First I give you fire…
I turn your fire into a sleepy stream.
yes! Now I give you nightmares.
From your horror I’ll create a dream.
You cannot fight me, for I have the sword of Hades.
But one thing you can’t see,
my answer is simply
an impenatrable fortress of love.
The fear went as quickly as it came.
The air was clear, the fire burned again.
The flames leapt beyond the glade,
the swan sang to greet the day.
And then we knew that
love will fly
Gandalf of Gwinnesia
July 30th, 2009
1:05 pm
I miss the innocence of those days, before Carter ruined our country….
Scooter
July 30th, 2009
1:15 pm
Gandalf the Great, your 1:05 was “stupidly”. You know darn well that it was Bush’s fault. Whew!
md
July 30th, 2009
1:19 pm
“By Betsy McCaughey (Democrat)
Since Medicare was established in 1965, access to care has enabled older Americans to avoid becoming disabled and to travel and live independently instead of languishing in nursing homes. But legislation now being rushed through Congress—H.R. 3200 and the Senate Health Committee Bill—will reduce access to care, pressure the elderly to end their lives prematurely, and doom baby boomers to painful later years.
The Congressional majority wants to pay for its $1 trillion to $1.6 trillion health bills with new taxes and a $500 billion cut to Medicare. This cut will come just as baby boomers turn 65 and increase Medicare enrollment by 30%. Less money and more patients will necessitate rationing. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that only 1% of Medicare cuts will come from eliminating fraud, waste and abuse.”
Be sure to give mom and dad a big kiss goodbye if/when this monstrosity of a bill goes through.
If you actually care for your loved ones, read the darn bill.
Bosch
July 30th, 2009
1:26 pm
Tree guys rock! Watching these guys work is better than TV. I wish y’all could see this big massive tree these guys are taking down.
Scooter
July 30th, 2009
1:28 pm
md, I don’t have two days and two lawyers to read the steenking bill! I don’t have any loved ones to worry about. But I am a boommer and concerned about my future????
jt
July 30th, 2009
1:29 pm
We Don’t Need No Steenking Government -you tried to salvaqe your ignorance-
July 30th, 2009
12:46 pm
“And, just in case you don’t want to take my word for it, here’s something from the Sweet tater council of California: Sweet Potato production is a long and labor intensive operation. … seed is put into hotbeds to grow plants (called slips) that will later be transplanted into fields…”
This info coming from the “sweet tater council of california” ,concerning your previous erroneous claim that the cultivation and/or production of sweet potatos/and sweet potato products are “labor intensive”.
Your info apparently comes from the US’s biggest welfare state. One must cafefully consider the source.
An Obama-bot WOULD consider sweet potato cultivation “labor intensive”.
GreenJeans
July 30th, 2009
1:31 pm
Bosch are they swinging through the tops, stretched out with chain saws in one hand, and lowering everything with ropes? It is awesome.
DB, Gwinnettian
July 30th, 2009
1:31 pm
One must ca[r]efully consider the source.
This, from a guy who just quoted Betsy McCaughey, who is quite possibly the biggest liar on two feet.
jt
July 30th, 2009
1:33 pm
I Report
You Whine :—-
You earlier commented about not voting for Romney.
What happens when or if the genius’s of the RNCC annoit him in 2012?
Just curious.
Scooter
July 30th, 2009
1:35 pm
Bosch, I have to agree the cutters are fun to watch. But it takes a little fun out of it when you have to watch them cut into small pieces and lower them into the living room and den then roll them out the door.That happened to my house back in Spring!
jt
July 30th, 2009
1:36 pm
Gwinnettian -
WTF. I don’t even know McCuaghey.
check you dyslexia.
@@
July 30th, 2009
1:41 pm
As if that’s not bad enough md:
The House health-care reform bill proposes to decrease hospital visits by establishing a “medical home pilot program” for elderly and disabled Americans.
Such a medical home would not require a physician to be on the staff, and therefore could be run solely by nurse practitioners and physician assistants. Medical homes also would practice “evidence-based” medicine, which advocates only the use of medical treatments that are supported by effectiveness research.
This is for my own enjoyment:
Since the 1970s, some radical environmentalists have argued that trees have legal rights and should be allowed to go to court to protect those rights.
The idea has been endorsed by John P. Holdren, the man who now advises President Barack Obama on science and technology issues.
Giving “natural objects” — like trees — standing to sue in a court of law would have a “most salubrious” effect on the environment, Holdren wrote the 1970s.
“One change in (legal) notions that would have a most salubrious effect on the quality of the environment has been proposed by law professor Christopher D. Stone in his celebrated monograph, ‘Should Trees Have Standing?’” Holdren said in a 1977 book that he co-wrote with Paul R. Ehrlich and Anne H. Ehrlich.
In that article, Stone plainly states: “I am quite seriously proposing that we give legal rights to forests, oceans, rivers and other so-called ‘natural objects’ in the environment–indeed, to the natural environment as a whole.”
Stone admits in the article that it may seem improbable to give legal rights to nonhuman objects, but likened it to finally giving rights to black Americans.
“The fact is, that each time there is a movement to confer rights onto some new ‘entity,’ the proposal is bound to sound odd or frightening or laughable,” Stone wrote.
What an odd comparison — African Americans and trees.
I don’t know of any conservative who has ever made that comparison. Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, would be proud to call Mssrs. Holdren, Stone and the Ehrlichs one of her own.
Nature’s rights vs. human rights.
DB, Gwinnettian
July 30th, 2009
1:41 pm
jt, I had you confused with md.
I realized this soon after, and tried to apologize but the moderator-thingie has got that post in limbo…
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
1:43 pm
Bosch –
“Tree guys rock! Watching these guys work is better than TV. I wish y’all could see this big massive tree these guys are taking down.”
I’m so with ya! I watched tree guys take down 2 trees at a friends house and it was probably one of the coolest, most intricate thing I’ve ever seen that wasn’t some kind of major surgery.
did your guys bring stump grinders, too??? way cool.
@@ –
“’Im not arguing against comprehensive sex education. I favor it! You, however, are ignoring the obvious.”
so, what’s your point?? you’re in favor of comprehensive sex ed. I’m with ya on that. you’re in favor of open and frank discussions about sex with your daughter – still there with ya.
and? what? will there be kids who don’t use contraceptives? of course there will – as I mentioned, we have stupid kids here, too, who think that either it won’t happen to them (”it was just that one time”) and kids that want to “have something of their own to love”.
the thing is to not only continue comprehensive sex ed but also to get them to think about their WHOLE future and how having a kid when you’re only 15 can derail it.
we’ll never have a teen pregnancy rate of 0, but we can aim for it while being realistic that the majority of people don’t wait until they’re married.
Scooter
July 30th, 2009
1:49 pm
@@, there are also those that think “animal rights” come before “human rights”. Go figure?????
DB, Gwinnettian
July 30th, 2009
1:50 pm
you’re in favor of open and frank discussions about sex with your daughter
You might want to consider re-phrasing that.
Gandalf, the Great: King and Wizard of Gwinnesia
July 30th, 2009
1:51 pm
jt, don’t you worry none about DB, he can’t even spell Gwinnesia!
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
1:55 pm
Gwinecian –
“You might want to consider re-phrasing that”
HA!! thanks – talk about a dangling participle!!
you’re in favor of open and frank discussions WITH YOUR DAUGHTER about sex
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 30th, 2009
1:56 pm
Your info apparently comes from the US’s biggest welfare state. One must cafefully consider the source.
So, your ‘rebuttal’ is that the backup info regarding my true statements about sweet potato plants came from California. Join a debate club. They could likely use the comic relief that your statements provide.
Normal
July 30th, 2009
1:56 pm
Wow, I just came back in and found I made Gandalf cry…Uriah Heep rocks!
Scooter
July 30th, 2009
1:59 pm
USinUK, I learned something today! This is for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KszD_MfB798
Can’t wait to here your “traveling music” tommorow!
Gandalf, the Great: King and Wizard of Gwinnesia
July 30th, 2009
1:59 pm
Normal: Truly they do! I loved that band. (it’s actually the memories of Monica, she was a hottie!)
@@
July 30th, 2009
2:00 pm
USinUK:
It goes back to the original infant mortality figures. There’s basically no difference in attitude between Europe and the U.S. when it comes to sex. All things being equal…education, contraceptives and abortion are available. For whatever reason (call it ignorance by choice) we have more abortions resulting in higher rates of infant mortality.
Europe’s abortion rates are lower….they’re criteria for measuring mortality is not the same. Babies born breathing, who later succumb to death (within varying time allowances), are not counted as live births. Every baby born breathing is counted here in the U.S.. The increased rate of abortions contributes to complications/deaths in subsequent births. We count them ALL.
RW-(the original)
July 30th, 2009
2:01 pm
I wish y’all could see this big massive tree these guys are taking down
Bosch,
We can if you post some pictures or video somewhere.
Paul
July 30th, 2009
2:01 pm
md
[[Since Medicare was established in 1965, access to care has enabled older Americans to avoid becoming disabled and to travel and live independently instead of languishing in nursing homes.]]
There are so many things wrong with that statement that I’d take the rest of it with a grain of salt. BTW – the scenario outlined – I thought, as Pres Obama stated in his last press conference – that what was described is actually a good scenario, compared with what will happen if our current system continues on its present course?
@@
Paul Erhlich? Ever notice how some people are loathe to examine his strong assertions – not even predictions, but pretty much statements of what will be – “”in the 1970s and 1980s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death”, that nothing can be done to avoid mass famine greater than any in the history, and radical action is needed to limit the overpopulation.”
But the guy still teaches population studies at Stanford….
Hey Bosch!
Exciting time, eh? Good news on the medical front, then wham! on the home front. Kinda keeps things in perspective, doesn’t it? Homes and stuff can be rebuilt. Trees can be replanted. But the body… you’ve come out way ahead on the deal.
josef nix
July 30th, 2009
2:01 pm
I would’ve thought by the time I got back y’all would have solved the world’s problems.
SCOOTER: Bravo! Looking forward to your posts!
I’m sorry I missed the GWTW discussion. Jay’s out and Kamchak and I might have actually been able to communicate on certain topics…
@@
July 30th, 2009
2:04 pm
USinUK:
Include prenatal care in my comparison. It’s available through county healthcare clinics as well as Planned Parenthood facilities. Of course, we all know what Planned Parenthood prefers to advocate, don’t we?
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 30th, 2009
2:08 pm
I would’ve thought by the time I got back y’all would have solved the world’s problems.
I take it you did not get the memo.
Scooter
July 30th, 2009
2:09 pm
Good afternoon josef. Missed ya!
md
July 30th, 2009
2:11 pm
Paul,
Forget the author if you choose (even though she is a democrat) and look at the facts. Evidently, the bill will use a formula to determine healthcare, and every formula is based on numbers, and as she indicates, the elderly will have a “denominator” problem. No different than euthanasia, discriminatory care based on age.
Rhambo’s brother is an advisor on the bill, and is a firm believer in euthanasia, etc. Check out his bio on the internet and go from there.
Paul
July 30th, 2009
2:12 pm
josef nix
Problems? Problems?!!? No problems. Just challenges!
See? With a little bit of poli-correct speech it’s all better!
Normal
July 30th, 2009
2:12 pm
Josef! Welcome back! Pre school time work load got you tied up?
–
Ain’t Scooter something? He’s going to be a techno-geek before you know it.
Gandalf, the Great: King and Wizard of Gwinnesia
July 30th, 2009
2:15 pm
Hi joseph!
Normal
July 30th, 2009
2:16 pm
Josef, the the “Went With The Breeze” movie, there is a scene in which
Scarlet and Rhett are driving a buggy through a burning Atlanta, and in the background a large building falls in flames. I tell my wife “There goes Rich’s” and she cries…California girls, gotta love ‘em.
DB, Gwinnettian
July 30th, 2009
2:18 pm
Forget the author if you choose (even though she is a democrat) and look at the facts.
Well, Politifact.com already has, but you’re not going to like it.
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
2:19 pm
@@ -
“There’s basically no difference in attitude between Europe and the U.S. when it comes to sex. All things being equal…education, contraceptives and abortion are available. For whatever reason (call it ignorance by choice) we have more abortions resulting in higher rates of infant mortality.”
wow. just when I thought we were making headway, you have wandered off the reservation again …
abortions do not result in higher infant mortality. again, the college of gynecologists and obstetricians say that less than 1% of abortions result in an extreme infection (which is the only thing that **could** cause problems during gestation), that doesn’t explain why the US has double the infant mortality of countries like Sweden.
and, you can ignore it all you want, but that double the mortality rate is from the WHO, which uses the same standards across all data.
as far as PP goes, put the Kool Aid down and actually visit one of their offices sometime and talk to the people who work there. they provide a full schedule of health screenings for women, not just abortion services.
lastly, as far as prenatal care, you make it sound like there’s a flower-filled clinic on every street corner. ACCESS to prenatal care is still a problem in rural areas, especially those without public transporation (ie, the majority of the country), for immigrants and for teens who usually deny their pregnancy and so do not start with their prenatal care as early as they should.
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
2:21 pm
hey jo nix!!!
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 30th, 2009
2:22 pm
Rep. Pete Sessions — the chief of the Republicans’ campaign arm in the House — says on his website that earmarks have become “a symbol of a broken Washington to the American people.”
Yet in 2008, Sessions himself steered a $1.6 million earmark for dirigible research to an Illinois company whose president acknowledges having no experience in government contracting, let alone in building blimps.
If you fill ‘em full of hydrogen and then strike a match in the right place, they go BOOM! Now, what more does this earmarking hypocrite need to know about the thangs.
Paul
July 30th, 2009
2:23 pm
md
I was just looking at the statement:
“Since Medicare was established in 1965, access to care has enabled older Americans to avoid becoming disabled and to travel and live independently instead of languishing in nursing homes.”
Implies that before 1965 Americans somehow could afford to live in nursing homes. Access to care and improved treatment and technologies of course engender mobility and a better lifestyle. And Medicare has helped that. But nursing homes as a viable option? I don’t know what Fed program covered that – even now that falls under Medicaid and you have to be about broke to qualify.
So I wasn’t dismissing the person – but I was questioning the writing. On the other items – I just received an email from Fachcheck about the ‘encouraging people to die early’ thing.
“On former Sen. Fred Thompson’s radio show, former lieutenant governor of New York Betsy McCaughey said that the House’s proposed health care bill contained a provision that would institute mandatory counseling sessions telling seniors how “to do what’s in society’s best interest … and cut your life short.” House Minority Leader John Boehner made a slightly more measured statement, warning that the same provision “may start us down a treacherous path toward government-encouraged euthanasia if enacted into law.”
In truth, that section of the bill would require Medicare to pay for voluntary counseling sessions helping seniors to plan for end-of-life medical care, including designating a health care proxy, choosing a hospice and making decisions about life-sustaining treatment. It would not require doctors to counsel that their patients refuse medical intervention.”
Not to defend what’s going on in the House – heaven knows there’s all kinds of questionable things the lobbyists and corporate types inserted. But… I think time would be better spent going after real shortcomings rather than the ‘we’re all fixin’ to die’ stuff.
We already have rationing – it’s determined by whether or not you have lots and lots of $$$$ or if you have a really, really, good insurance policy. If you don’t (and sometimes even if you do) your care is rationed. It’s also rationed by which specialists are in your area, or by which specialists accept your insurance.
I agree – the whole “we’ll pay for it by cutting waste” thing Spkr Pelosi tried to convince us of is an insult to intelligence. But there is waste – not too long ago I read of one -think it was GAO report – on one of the boroughs in NYC – TEN PERCENT waste and fraud in Medicare.
So I come back to my question for the Democratic Congress and Senate who fight for the little guy and stand up to corporations and exploitation and all things not nice: when are you going to get around to doing something about all that fraud, waste and abuse you say is rampant in the system, hmmm?!!?
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
2:24 pm
okay … just because it’s Thursday and Friday traveling music is right around the corner …
… here’s something to whet your appetite …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ7SYt-b-fI
Kamchak
July 30th, 2009
2:25 pm
josef
Left a message for you on page 2 at 10:19 am.
Scooter
July 30th, 2009
2:27 pm
Yeah Normal, and it is mostly your fault! Next I’m going to lay down some suppressive fire by posting the longest and most boring article I can find like some of the others do here.LOL
josef nix
July 30th, 2009
2:31 pm
Erma Bombeck on sex: “I don’t know what everybody’s getting so excited about. It’s centrally located and within everyone’s price range.”
Granddaddy on sex: “Them that can, does and them that can’t talks about it.”
Me on sex: “…precious memories, how they linger…”
Normal
July 30th, 2009
2:31 pm
OH GAWD, I’ve created a monster…TechnoScooter, the evil cut’n paster
fiend of the web…Anybody want the movie rights?
Normal
July 30th, 2009
2:35 pm
Me on sex: “…precious memories, how they linger…”
unfortunately, they are mostly memories for me.
————
My wife said I was the best lover in the world, so I went to a prostitute to get an professional opinion…
josef nix
July 30th, 2009
2:37 pm
Kamchak–that was rich! “…ooh, I mean, shame and scandal on the family…”
Paul
July 30th, 2009
2:37 pm
josef nix
I liked the line about getting teens to engage in abstinence: “You want teens to abstain from having sex? Make’em get married, then they won’t have sex, just like the rest of us!”
Kamchak
July 30th, 2009
2:40 pm
A red letter day in my diary for learning (hopefully) from my failures.
In advance of tomorrow’s music thread and dedicated to us all. This should be Apolitical Blues without Lowell George but with Jeff Healy
Scooter
July 30th, 2009
2:41 pm
Thanks alot Paul,you made my beer come out my nose!
md
July 30th, 2009
2:42 pm
“In truth, that section of the bill would require Medicare to pay for voluntary counseling sessions helping seniors to plan for end-of-life medical care, including designating a health care proxy, choosing a hospice and making decisions about life-sustaining treatment. It would not require doctors to counsel that their patients refuse medical intervention.””
And if care is restricted by a formula, what exactly is the definition of “voluntary”.
Scooter
July 30th, 2009
2:43 pm
Kamchak, I didn’t get it. Is it just me????
AmVet
July 30th, 2009
2:45 pm
So the music lovers here couldn’t wait til Friday!
Cool.
Some great advice in this song…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CABsgXUyClE
josef nix
July 30th, 2009
2:46 pm
SCOOTER–beer at 3 on a Thursday? Must be nice…however
NORMAL, BOSCH, et al…hey, got the Merlot cracked and sippin…my payback for the last few days of responsibility…
PAUL–my straight white Yankee GOP brother-in-law is demanding gay marriage, says it’s time we suffer too!
REST OF Y’ALL–missed y’all, too!
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
2:50 pm
awwww
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8176619.stm
Kamchak
July 30th, 2009
2:50 pm
Scooter
I didn’t get it either. All I got was a message saying it wasn’t available now. I watched it earlier—good version of the song.
Normal
July 30th, 2009
2:52 pm
I never knew what happiness was until I got married…then it was too late
Paul
July 30th, 2009
2:52 pm
md
Seniors could choose if they wanted the counseling or not. That’s the voluntary part. If they want it, Medicare will pay for it.
josef nix
Heck of a brother in law – of course, his whole attitude of wanting others to suffer too is driven by the fact he’s a Yankees fan -
Pennsylvanian
July 30th, 2009
2:53 pm
Sex? What are you talking about? Been married 32 years. Could someone refresh my memory?
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 30th, 2009
2:54 pm
True conservative Republicans don’t have sex. They procreate. It’s not the same thing. For one thing, they are always successful for there is no aborting allowed. They also have to keep one foot touching the floor at all times and afterward, they have to retire to separate twin beds… for a cigarette and a question and answer session. Was it as good for you as it was for me!
Pennsylvanian
July 30th, 2009
2:56 pm
Serious question here. Really. I can not figure out why Sgt. Crowley would accept an invitation for beers at the WH, or the Cambridge PD would permit him to go, with threat of lawsuit from Gates. What am I missing?
Scooter
July 30th, 2009
2:57 pm
I guess I will lay off the beer for awhile. you folks are cracking me up!
Normal
July 30th, 2009
2:57 pm
USinUK…Great story!
md
July 30th, 2009
2:58 pm
“Seniors could choose if they wanted the counseling or not. That’s the voluntary part. If they want it, Medicare will pay for it”
Not my point.
Voluntary – 300k mortgage, 5 kids in college, 150k of medical bills, etc, etc. don’t like my job. (hypothetical) One is free to voluntarily leave said job, but in actuality they can not.
So, voluntary life ending counseling???????
Normal
July 30th, 2009
2:59 pm
Me on sex: “…precious memories, how they linger…”
Of course they will lie about that too…
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
3:00 pm
AmVet –
“Some great advice in this song…”
I’m not a huge skynard fan, but that is one of my favorites
Scooter
July 30th, 2009
3:00 pm
Yes josef, it is nice at 3 on thur.! No work today! Take a sip for me.
Normal
July 30th, 2009
3:00 pm
Was it as good for you as it was for me!
Of course they will lie about that too
I don’t know how I got the other one up.
md
July 30th, 2009
3:00 pm
“Sex? What are you talking about? Been married 32 years. Could someone refresh my memory?”
Was once told to put a jelly bean in a jar every time we had sex during the first year of marriage and to take one out every time after the first year and that the jar would never again be empty.
Normal
July 30th, 2009
3:02 pm
Help, my hard drive crashed and went all floppy on me…
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
3:03 pm
md –
hahah .. I’ve heard that, too
Scooter
July 30th, 2009
3:04 pm
Goodday AmVet, I have not forgoten!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdz_G1VGJ4c
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
3:06 pm
http://www.suddenlossofdignity.com/
saw this in the afternoon paper and it made me laugh …
if we can insure our cars, why can’t we insure our dignity against loss??
Paul
July 30th, 2009
3:06 pm
Pennsylvanian
Officer Crowley was also considering a defamation lawsuit against Prof Gates. Seems, from the just released tapes, he has the stronger case.
This is likely an attempt to defuse the situation and set an example for the rest of the country. Not bad –
md
My understanding it the end of life counseling involves all those things people should consider but may be ignorant of – wills, living wills, medical treatment options, etc etc etc. Again, nothing’s mandatory. Doc can say ‘we can provide you with information you may find worthwhile if you were to develop Alzheimers or some other disease” and the person is free to say ‘no thanks.’
Scooter
July 30th, 2009
3:10 pm
My head is the only hard thing I have these days! Glad I sowed as many oats as I could when I was young!
Paul
July 30th, 2009
3:15 pm
md
Guy tells his wife she’s so bad in bed, nobody would pay her for it. She says ‘they would so’ and he says “heck, you couldn’t even make twenty bucks.” She storms out and comes back a few hours later. She throws her purse at him and yells ‘There’s a hundred bucks!’ and he says ’someone paid you a hundred bucks?!??” She says ‘are you crazy? They all paid twenty-five cents!”
Normal
July 30th, 2009
3:16 pm
Paul,
you said: My understanding it the end of life counseling involves all those things people should consider but may be ignorant of – wills, living wills, medical treatment options, etc etc etc. Again, nothing’s mandatory.
So this means they don’t give you a gun with one bullet in it and say “Do the right thing”?
Paul
July 30th, 2009
3:16 pm
Scooter
[[My head is the only hard thing I have these days!]]
So lemme guess… now you bang your head on purpose?
Scooter
July 30th, 2009
3:17 pm
Normal @ 3:02, I can’t help you with that problem. Maybe your wife can help?????? LOL
Paul
July 30th, 2009
3:19 pm
Normal
No different than now. Doc says to someone ‘you should lose weight and stop smoking and quit drinking. I can have the PA come in and give you some information.’ Person says ‘thanks but no thanks.’ Or, more likely, they sit though it and ignore it.
[[So this means they don’t give you a gun with one bullet in it and say “Do the right thing”]]
Shoot it at the insurance company?
Scooter
July 30th, 2009
3:21 pm
Paul, I’ll plea the 5th!
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 30th, 2009
3:22 pm
we can insure our cars, why can’t we insure our dignity against loss??
Have you tried Lloyds. They’ll insure anything if the price is right.
As for the end of life counseling, Fred Thompson needs to get with the new green initiatives. In his case, that would be Soylent Green. I’m sure his fellow conservative Republicans would just eat it up.
Normal
July 30th, 2009
3:24 pm
So lemme guess… now you bang your head on purpose?
Smile when you say that….
josef nix
July 30th, 2009
3:27 pm
USinUK–great site! Thanks!