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We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 30th, 2009
8:14 am
I was reading, or trying to without bursting out in laughter, Kyle Wingnut’s opinion this morning concerning the trials and tribulations of the small business man in America. I was certainly moved in strange ways as I tried to ‘feel’ for this so-called business man that moans over the prospect of no longer getting high quality slave labor. But, what struck me the most was the new-found knowledge, thanks Kyle for that much, that this chain of Subway franchises has employees with not so much as bare-bones basic rudimentary health care and they handle FOOD that is served up to the public. Oh, I feel so much better knowing that they slip on a pair of plastic gloves, achooo!, sorry ’bout that, each and every time they are under the watchful eye of the consumer. Well, at least we have health inspectors here in Georgia to keep us safe and that’s worth at least a bag of peanuts to each and every one of us. The swine.
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
8:15 am
doggone –
“”I do not need the heavy, mindless hand of government inserting it’s self in the private affairs between me and my doctor””
but he has no problem with the heavy, mindless hand of accountants inserting itself into the private affairs between him and his doctor …
Normal
July 30th, 2009
8:23 am
Hey, Y’all…as much fun as it has been being a fly on the wall these past days, and in some cases laughing so hard I’ve had to change my “depends”, it’s time to consider more important things…Tomorrow is Friday! So, who’s going to make the “Traveling Music” Choice? Since USinUK usually checks out early to us, I vote for her and I vote we start it early. Declare a truce and let the music soothe the savage soul (Whiner). What d’ya say?
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
8:26 am
TnG –
“which probably explains the difference in unwanted pregnancies.”
the pregnancy rate in the UK is the highest in Europe (42/1000) – primarily because there isn’t really a concerted effort to educate kids and talk to them about consequences. they’re not teaching abstinence, but they’re not really just plain talking to them, either, about their lives and how a pregnancy could limit their future.
According to the CDC, 1/3 of American teens will get pregnant before they’re 20. and the teen pregnancy rate rose following the push for abstinence-only education – and this is after decades of a steady decline …
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
8:28 am
Normal …
“Tomorrow is Friday! So, who’s going to make the “Traveling Music” Choice? Since USinUK usually checks out early to us, I vote for her and I vote we start it early.”
OH! the pressure …
I’m not a big fan of country, but I’ll try to find something that will be a good Friday tune for everyone.
and thank you for the nomination!!
TnGelding
July 30th, 2009
8:29 am
On topic:
More Michigan residents are hanging out their “Gone Fishin’” signs this year, looking for a cheap afternoon of fun — and with some luck, a free dinner.
http://www.freep.com/article/20090727/NEWS05/907270331/Michiganders-angling-for-cheap-fun–dinner?GID=maDtYvjRSkEEc2UJkSadOpqUWBgOChwUlSzpeoX7Zas%3D
CA #1:
“So, what are the biggest US welfare states?”
http://www.cnbc.com/id/31910310?slide=16
Gale
July 30th, 2009
8:32 am
I don’t like country either. But if the Traveling Music must go that route, how about some good ol’ Blue Grase?
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
8:35 am
Gale –
“I don’t like country either. But if the Traveling Music must go that route, how about some good ol’ Blue Grase?”
you must be reading my mind … I was thinking Alison Kraus … (she’s about as far as I dip my toe into that particular pool)
Gale
July 30th, 2009
8:41 am
Yes! I would definitely go for Alison Kraus. Fiddle player, right? I hope I have the right name. I saw her once at a fiddle concert with about ten other groups.
Normal
July 30th, 2009
8:42 am
If you like Blue Grass, check out Goosecreek Symphony…Electric Blue Grass
Scooter
July 30th, 2009
8:44 am
Great idea Normal!
USinUK, you have my vote! How about some “mountain” music. Mississippi queen, do you know what I mean?
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
8:47 am
Normal … actually, I may have a little sumpin’ up my sleeve … having a think and will pootle around the YouTubeosphere tonight …
posting will be early-squirrelly to start our Friday RIGHT!!!
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
8:48 am
Gale –
“Yes! I would definitely go for Alison Kraus”
yep – she’s a fiddle player and has a voice I would commit about 5 felony crimes for …
Gale
July 30th, 2009
8:50 am
I don’t remember her voice so I will take your word on that. I was there for the fiddlers, and the fiddles.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
July 30th, 2009
8:54 am
Well, it’s always good to see GA up at #1. This time it’s in bank failures, but leastwise it’s in something. You can’t give a bunch of good old boys a pile of money and expect anything good to happen. Just like it’s kind of risky to leave your farm animals with one when you have to go away. CA and IL tied for 2nd.
I’m all for USinUK choosing the music for Friday, long as it’s country music. My vote’s for Big N Rich or maybe George Strait or the Kentucky Headhunters.
I reckon by this time Bookman’s caught something. Maybe VD. Leastwise we proved we don’t need him to keep right on blogging. Heck, we could be up to 2000 posts before he gets back. Have a good day everybody.
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 30th, 2009
9:02 am
So, the GOP has gone and offered up their own health care plan. Tom Price, another Georgia wingnut, was apparently the one that drew the short straw (or maybe the long straw given their known perversions including bowing to the likes of Rush Limbaugh) and was called upon to present this fine piece of craftymanship. Let’s see, it only has a price tag of 700 billion, to cover the cost of all the tax cuts and incentives to big business (what the hell’s a few more trillion to borrow from China to pay for that one), it does nothing to insure that any of the uninsured will be covered, it does not require the insurance companies to cover folks with pre-existing conditions, it does nothing to curb the ever-increasing costs for consumers, etc. Well, if any of you folks out there happen to go to this physician, Tom Price, for medical care, perhaps you can ask him if he’ll take that tax cut as payment rendered for his servicing you.
Normal
July 30th, 2009
9:15 am
posting will be early-squirrelly to start our Friday RIGHT!!!
USinUK, Don’t say right…never say right…
Normal
July 30th, 2009
9:16 am
It confuses the wing nuts…
Paul
July 30th, 2009
9:18 am
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Remember all the ‘outrage’ over Bush Administration political appointees overriding career attorneys at Justice, particularly those in the Civil Rights Division?
It seems that’s just what happened in the voter intimidation case.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/30/no-3-at-justice-okd-panther-reversal/?feat=home_cube_position1&
I really liked the explanation by the Justice Department spokeswoman: “She said that after a “thorough review of the complaint, top career attorneys in the Civil Rights Division determined the “facts and the law did not support pursuing the claims against three of the defendants.”
The career lawyers, those on the front line preparing cases, wanted to pursue action. It was the political appointee lawyers, those appointed by the Obama Administration, who overruled them! LOL!
So in addition to rendition, indefinite detention, spying, war expansion, secret meetings, lobbyist influence, we also have more examples of refusing to answer questions by Congress, stonewalling the media, political appointees overriding career lawyers and preventing bureaucrats from meeting with members of Congress.
Just one more thing to add to the q&a about “How is the Obama Administration the same as the Bush Administration?”
Normal
July 30th, 2009
9:19 am
Since I’m a liberal, left wing, love everybody tree hugger, long hair,
hippy, commie pinko, let me suggest some good old fashioned ’60s protest songs…;>)
Paul
July 30th, 2009
9:22 am
Redneck Convert
[[it’s always good to see GA up at #1.]]
Except where it really matters – college football!
Texas.
Paul
July 30th, 2009
9:27 am
If I might get a jump on the Friday music, how about something that is of the appropriate genre, incorporates some of the 60s elements and, most importantly, pays tribute to Jay?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNqT6ZZ9uw0&feature=related
Doggone/GA
July 30th, 2009
9:35 am
“but he has no problem with the heavy, mindless hand of accountants inserting itself into the private affairs between him and his doctor”
and simply can’t SEE that where the government is going to “insert” itself is between the consumer and the insurance companies, not between the consumer and the doctor
Doggone/GA
July 30th, 2009
9:36 am
“Oh, I feel so much better knowing that they slip on a pair of plastic gloves ”
Oh, yeah…I’ve just felt SO much better since food service employees started wearing gloves. NOT. If they can’t keep their hands clean, they aren’t going to keep glove clean either…unless they are required to change gloves between EVERY customer, which ain’t happenin’
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
9:41 am
Doggone –
“and simply can’t SEE that where the government is going to “insert” itself is between the consumer and the insurance companies, not between the consumer and the doctor”
and this is what kills me. the same people who argue that the government is going to limit resources and ration healthcare don’t seem to realize that insurance companies already ARE doing this …
but, I guess as long as a company is doing it to boost their profits, that’s okay by them …
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
9:48 am
well, Paul … to combine the 2 discussions (Ga being #1 and healthcare) …
while GA is in the second tier of states with the highest cardiovascular disease and cancer, they ARE in the first tier for low birthweight, childhood obesity, infant death rate, and adult diabetes
http://www.statehealthfacts.org
Doggone/GA
July 30th, 2009
9:51 am
“but, I guess as long as a company is doing it to boost their profits, that’s okay by them”
Yep. For some, apparently, “profit” is the new GOD!
DB, Gwinnettian
July 30th, 2009
9:52 am
the same people who argue that the government is going to limit resources and ration healthcare don’t seem to realize that insurance companies already ARE doing this …
Of course they realize this. They’re just liars, that’s all.
Scooter
July 30th, 2009
9:53 am
Normal, please don’t make us listen to Richie Havens. Or Dylon
Paul
July 30th, 2009
9:55 am
USinUK
And the ‘compromise’ in the House will let states form co-ops, if they choose, to take care of those with no insurance or low-cost insurance.
From what I’ve read about GA’s governor and legislature, that oughta work out real well –
There are times, to promote the general welfare, that the Fed gov’t needs to push the states where they wouldn’t otherwise go -
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 30th, 2009
10:04 am
The high education areas Obama carried – 78 of the 100 counties with the highest education. McCain carried 88 of the 100 counties with the lowest education. As we move to cultural politics, that’s been the shift.
Need I say more. Well, maybe for those in the ‘88 county’ population.
Scooter
July 30th, 2009
10:04 am
I have been tring to post music here in prep for tommorow’s “traveling music”. I have been to several sites to learn how to do it. As bad as I hate to admit it the instructions are beyond me! Can anyone please help?
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
10:06 am
paul -
all I can tell you is that I want to punch Max Baucus’s smug face.
but that’s just me.
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 30th, 2009
10:14 am
Just one more thing to add to the q&a about “How is the Obama Administration the same as the Bush Administration?”
As evidenced by the undying support for Obama from all those former Bush loyalists. Wait a minute. Is this another episode of the Outer Limits.
DB, Gwinnettian
July 30th, 2009
10:14 am
Scooter @ 10.04, you can just copy the url of the Youtube video as a separate line in your message text.
Like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRbuhlTu0Lk
If you’re wondering where the actual URL (i.e., webpage address) is to be found, the most reliable method is to click in the “URL” field you’ll see top-right on the YouTube page.
Nothin’ fancy–the hyperlink will work perfectly well that way. Of course if you want to anchor the link to some text that requires a little bit of html coding; click this link to see a page that might be of some help if you want to play around a bit.
Hope this helps.
Dusty
July 30th, 2009
10:19 am
Hmmm
Do you people do anything besides sit around looking up figures to prove that the USA is sorry and Georgia is the worst state in the Union? If it isn’t that, then it is “doctors are sorry” and “accountants just want to make a profit” and other complaints. Of course, blaming Bush is still current.
I don’t mind some discussion for BOTH sides of an argument but “blind blame” is all we get here.
The USA makes no one stay here unless they have commited a crime. Feel free to go.
You do NOT have to reside in Georgia. The state lines are open.
No one is forced to go to doctors. Stay home and die happily by your self.
Nobody runs a business to go “broke”. Profit is not evil. Accountants actually account for the money part of business. They are not an evil bunch from a Dicken’s novel. And anybody running something bigger than the front desk is going to make more money as they move up. That is the way things go in this world..unless you are a communist.. and even their leaders…..oh well…
But one request. Please don’t start the so called music early. Symphony Hall wasn’t built for nothing. Kapeche?
Scooter
July 30th, 2009
10:21 am
Thanks DB, I’m off to see the Wizard!
TnGelding
July 30th, 2009
10:25 am
We Don’t Need No Steenking Government
July 30th, 2009
10:04 am
I knew too much education was going to ruin the country!
getalife
July 30th, 2009
10:26 am
photo
They want some of that legal bribery money too like Jefferson.
“My Client’s Corrupt, But Who Isn’t?”
http://www.newser.com/story/65657/my-clients-corrupt-but-who-isnt.html
Ya just can’t trust them.
Kamchak
July 30th, 2009
10:27 am
Thanks for the link DB–I’ve often wondered how to do that.
Normal
July 30th, 2009
10:27 am
SCOOTER, Let’s try this…Say you want to play a Dylan song, but not by him, let’s do “Turn, Turn, Turn” by the BYRDS. At the very top of this page that you’re reading this, right side is a “Search” Box. Type Byrds in the box and “enter”. The page you get has, about three things down, a you tube of the Byrds, Turn, Turn, Turn.
Now, if you want to listen to it first, click on it and listen. After you are done, arrow back and look for the http://www.youtube.com/watchPV=nUworKXBzdE. High light that by clicking and holding the left mouse button and dragging it accross it. release the button when you have it all. Then hit and hold ctrl on your keyboard and hit c. let ‘em both go. now it should be saved, so go back to the comments box and when you are ready to submit it push and hold ctrl and hit v. It should put it in the box. Try it and we will work out any bugs, OK?
Dusty
July 30th, 2009
10:31 am
“We Don’t Need No Steenking Government”@10:14
We also don’t need any paid DNC workers here playing country cute with their propaganda. Mrs. Godzilla used to do it with IN THE NEWS postings. Now we have you. Relax! Think for yourself! You may find that the present administration is far from perfect. You are just afraid to say it.
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
10:31 am
Dusty –
“I don’t mind some discussion for BOTH sides of an argument but “blind blame” is all we get here.”
um. well. bollocks. I’ve read you now for weeks and you DO mind BOTH sides of the argument, especially when the other side seems to call into doubt your “we’re #1 – woowoo!!!” belief. The US is great and I’m proud to be a citizen, but it is by no means perfect (regardless of who is in residence in the WH).
At least be honest with yourself, Dusty.
and as far as pointing out GA’s deficiencies, remember that the first step to getting better is admitting you have a problem.
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 30th, 2009
10:35 am
We also don’t need any paid DNC workers here playing country cute with their propaganda. Mrs. Godzilla used to do it with IN THE NEWS postings. Now we have you. Relax! Think for yourself! You may find that the present administration is far from perfect. You are just afraid to say it.
Well, I think you’re just jealous. Oops.
TnGelding
July 30th, 2009
10:42 am
Dusty
July 30th, 2009
10:19 am
Yeah, cut and run like the lovely Sarah. We’re trying to improve things. If you can’t admit you have problems that’s hard to do.
No one is forced to go to doctors?
San Dimas, CA (May 25, 2009) – The image of an American child being strapped down and forced to take harsh cancer therapy against the will of his parents or even his own will is not a welcome thought.
Ironically, the Hauser case comes just when radiation oncologists are questioning reports on the effectiveness of radiation treatment for Hodgkin’s lymphoma. A review of 61 trial reports that were published between 1998 and 2007, published in the February 1, 2009 issue of the Journal of Radiation Oncology Biology Physics, the official journal of the American Society for Radiation Oncology, shows major deficiencies in reports which substantiate this type of treatment. The question is, can cancer doctors assure with certainty that the treatment is science-based, something the new administration in Washington DC is pushing.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi110.html
Will we ever learn?
“Pregnant women front of line for swine flu vaccine”
ATLANTA – Pregnant women, health care workers and children six months and older should be placed at the front of the line for swine flu vaccinations this fall, a government panel recommended Wednesday.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090730/ap_on_he_me/us_med_swine_flu_vaccine_8
getalife
July 30th, 2009
10:56 am
“Remember all the talk about Hillary’s campaign debt? Her campaign committee is now in the black”
HA!
Mrs. Godzilla
July 30th, 2009
10:58 am
Damn…..Dusty…..
USinUK is bang on right.
America is NOT perfect.
I say it is UN-American not to accept that and work to improve it.
Country music…..again?
How about some rock a billy?
TnGelding
July 30th, 2009
10:58 am
Dusty
July 30th, 2009
10:31 am
“Think for yourself! You may find that the present administration is far from perfect. You are just afraid to say.”
Back at you:
Think for yourself! You may find that the past administration was far from perfect. You are just afraid to say.
Can you at least admit that this one is no worse?
Dusty
July 30th, 2009
11:05 am
Dear USinUK @10:31
As you sit in the UK giving us advice, we certainly appreciate your viewpoint although it is usually a negative one about the USA. It smacks of the many diehard liberals here.
If you have heard anything good about the USA lately, you don’t mention it. Sure, the first step in solving problems is to find them. When you seek only problems, it is called either prejudice or depression.
If patriotism disturbs you, I am sorry. I realize it is no longer politically correct. But I think it is quite accurate to say that the USA is NO 1 WOOWOO and not the “pits of the world” with your ever seeking promotion of finding OUR problems to correct.
I am quite honest. That seems to bother you since it does not agree with your liberal findings. But I have no problem being a conservative Republican in the USA. We uphold the principles.
USA…still the greatest. ” WooWoo!!! ”
(The correct word, USinUK, is WooHoo !)
TnGelding
July 30th, 2009
11:05 am
Time-ly article:
“Can Obama Close the Deal on Health Care?”
“His eloquence is a big part of the reason that Barack Obama got to the Oval Office. There’s always been a sense that his ability to explain things was tantamount to his ability to fix them. But the sheer complexity of health care has so far defied both his ability to explain and his power to fix. And in this case, the latter is an even greater challenge than the former.”
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1913623,00.html
(On the cover, again?)
Scooter
July 30th, 2009
11:05 am
Here is my first shot???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUworKXBzdE
Mrs. Godzilla
July 30th, 2009
11:08 am
For Dusty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQP563gKwIU
Gale
July 30th, 2009
11:09 am
Obama’s rhetorical eloquence has been severely reduced by his dependence on teleprompters. The cadence of his speeches lately have left me switching him off more than hanging on his words. I hate listening to people who speak in choppy phrases. He nneds to get familiar with his message and start speaking without the teleprompters.
Paul
July 30th, 2009
11:10 am
Scooter
Bulls-eye! Pretty soon you’ll be just as dangerous as some of the other cut-n-pasters here!
Turd Ferguson
July 30th, 2009
11:12 am
What we need from Obama is another GREAT SPEECH. Ya…that should do it.
Normal
July 30th, 2009
11:12 am
Good Goin’ SCOOTER!
TnGelding
July 30th, 2009
11:13 am
Blind patriotism should disturb all of us.
Dissent is the highest form of patriotism. Thomas Jefferson
You’re not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can’t face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it. Malcolm X
The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war. Sydney J Harris
Our country is not the only thing to which we owe our allegiance. It is also owed to justice and to humanity. Patriotism consists not in waving the flag, but in striving that our country shall be righteous as well as strong. James Bryce
jt
July 30th, 2009
11:14 am
This is one page of 437 pages of the Federal Regulations dealing with sweet potato crop insurance.
1. Definitions
Abandon. Failure to continue to care for the crop, providing care so
insignificant as to provide no benefit to the crop, or failure to
harvest in a timely manner, unless an insured cause of loss prevents you
from properly caring for or harvesting the crop or causes damage to it
to the extent that most producers of the crop on acreage with similar
characteristics in the area would not normally further care for or
harvest it.
Acreage report. A report required by section 6 of these Basic
Provisions that contains, in addition to other required information,
your report of your share of all acreage of an insured crop in the
county, whether insurable or not insurable.
Acreage reporting date. The date contained in the Special Provisions
or as provided in section 6 by which you are required to submit your
acreage report.
Act. The Federal Crop Insurance Act (7 U.S.C. 1501 et seq.).
Actual Production History (APH). A process used to determine
production guarantees in accordance with 7 CFR part 400, subpart (G).
Actual yield. The yield per acre for a crop year calculated from the
production records or claims for indemnities. The actual yield is
determined by dividing total production (which includes harvested and
appraised production) by planted acres.
Actuarial documents. The material for the crop year which is
available for public inspection in your agent’s office and published on
RMA’s Web site at http://www.rma.usda.gov/ or a successor Web site, and
which shows available coverage levels, information needed to determine
amounts of insurance, premium rates, premium adjustment percentages,
practices, particular types or varieties of the insurable crop,
insurable acreage, and other related information regarding crop
insurance in the county.
Additional coverage. A level of coverage greater than catastrophic
risk protection.
Administrative fee. An amount you must pay for catastrophic risk
protection, and additional coverage for each crop year as specified in
section 7 and the Catastrophic Risk Protection Endorsement.
Agricultural commodity. Any crop or other commodity produced,
regardless of whether or not it is insurable.
Agricultural experts. Persons who are employed by the Cooperative
State Research,
http://frwebgate6.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/TEXTgate.cgi?WAISdocID=966255415349+3+1+0&WAISaction=retrieve
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 30th, 2009
11:15 am
If you have heard anything good about the USA lately, you don’t mention it.
I beg to correct. USinUK, amongst most others (i.e., the majority) have been stating the obviously ‘good’ results of the last Presidential race for some time now. Perhaps you would do well to simply quit ‘thinking’ for yourself, Dusty. Even better, lay off the right wing propaganda. It’s also bad for the complexion. More of the same in 2010, 2012, etc. — Republicans out / Democrats in.
Jim Nichols
July 30th, 2009
11:15 am
anyboday catch Bill Kristol state that the Government could provide “a first class health care system” on Jon Stewart…
TnGelding
July 30th, 2009
11:19 am
Jim Nichols
July 30th, 2009
11:15 am
I think it was posted here, but I’ll do it again:
http://current.com/items/90546876_jon-stewart-gets-bill-kristol-to-admit-that-govt-run-health-care-can-be-better-than-private/25.htm
Dusty
July 30th, 2009
11:20 am
Dear one and all liberal bloggers who want to “perfect” the USA,
I have never said the USA was perfect. I do consider it NUMBER ONE GREATEST COUNTRY in the World and will continue to say so. If that bothers you, go burn a flag or something that shows your liberal concern.
Bush was not perfect either. He just kept us safe and sound which was his job.
The present administration? Already, in seven months, accumulated the greatest national debt ever experienced in the USA! No, Bush did not do it.
Why does Obama follow many of Bush’s policies? Because; they are the wise thing to do. Too bad Obama made so many election promises that he has since broken. Guantanamo, Iraq, Afghanistan!! Oh well, I guess we should not mention THAT. Complaints should be about BUSH.
Dusty
July 30th, 2009
11:25 am
Oh great! Now TnGelding is quoting Malcolm X. As UsinUK says: WOOWOO!
GreenJeans
July 30th, 2009
11:25 am
USinUK at 10:31: But then, that is part and parcel of our Dusty. As Redneck Convert so aptly stated, she’s never been in a wreck but has caused thousands. It’s the blinders.
Yearning to be Scarlett, yet posessing the charm-free qualities of Sue Ellen, you can’t help but love her gumption. It’s like visiting your crazy great-grannie at Ravenwood. Just accept her as-is and pray for her.
Your posts are refreshing. Thanks.
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 30th, 2009
11:25 am
Due to an unexpected decline in the “migratory” workforce in the USofA, sweet potato plants were all but non-existent in much of the country for most of the year. You see, sweet potato plants are an extremely labor intensive product and the markup on the product, much like Subway sandwiches purchased at their franchises, is very small. Hence, any effort to profit from the marketing and distribution of said product, without government subsidies, is next to impossible for the small business man. Obviously, these business men need to grow up.
Kamchak
July 30th, 2009
11:27 am
<a href=”http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=D3527EEC7E9C6621″/I can’t believe this hasn’t been posted yet.
TnGelding
July 30th, 2009
11:28 am
Dusty
July 30th, 2009
11:20 am
Have you forgotten 09/11? Yeah, he kept us safe alright.
Bush left the greatest national debt ever experienced. Obama has continued the upward spiral.
If he’s following Bush’s policies, then why aren’t you supporting him? I certainly hope it is only temporary, but it’s a wise person that can change their opinion as conditions change.
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 30th, 2009
11:28 am
Bush was not perfect either. He just kept us safe and sound which was his job.
Uhhh. The towers came tumbling down on his watch so it is more of a “Remember the Alamo” moment, at best. And, I’m being kind. Likely, too kind.
RW-(the original)
July 30th, 2009
11:29 am
Scooter,
If you want to make it even easier, after you click the left mouse button to highlight the link/url click the right mouse button without moving the mouse. Select copy from the menu that pops up. Then bring your cursor to the comment box and click the right mouse button again, but this time select paste from the menu.
TnGelding
July 30th, 2009
11:29 am
Dusty
July 30th, 2009
11:25 am
I thought you’d get a kick out of that. Hope you saw the others as well.
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
11:29 am
Dusty –
actually I think all the kewl kidz say “w00t!”
“If patriotism disturbs you, I am sorry. I realize it is no longer politically correct”
patriotism doesn’t disturb me. BLIND patriotism, however, disturbs me VERY much – that smacks of an unwillingness to face the realities that your country and your country’s leaders are humans and make mistakes. BLIND patriotism leads us to the lovely land we found ourselves in when we had the Ari Fleischer saying that “all Americans need to watch what they say” and that anyone who dared question the president or speak out against the war was aiding the enemy.
“I am quite honest. That seems to bother you since it does not agree with your liberal findings”
my “liberal findings”?? good gawd, Dusty, you can’t even have a conversation without slinging “librul” into the mix. darlin’, it’s not a “liberal finding” to observe your comments on this board. you don’t like anyone to say, “now, hangonaminnit …” and raise evidence that the US isn’t perfect in every way and, in fact, has some very serious steps it needs to take to address its problems.
“If you have heard anything good about the USA lately, you don’t mention it.”
well, given the discussion we’ve had over the course of the week has made some egregiously inaccurate statements about socialized medicine (such as how the UK system just wants to kill off the aged), then, yeah, I’m going to weigh in with my experience and the data that supports my points. you want to read it as “not having anything good to say”, then so be it. I see it as presenting the facts.
Kamchak
July 30th, 2009
11:29 am
What went wrong? Anybody/
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
11:32 am
TnG –
re: blind patriotism. dammit, you beat me to it
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July 30th, 2009
11:32 am
as far as access to birth control, I agree with you that the US and European communities are similar as far as access … however, where education and attitudes about premarital sex are concerned, they are WORLDS apart.
Obviously not since our teens are getting pregnant more often without fear of being stigmatized.
Supposedly, in the northeastern states, sex education is comprehensive.
Among 15 to 19 year olds — B/R=birthrates A/R=abortion rates
Delaware B/R 93 Abortions 31
District of Columbia B/R 128 A/R 55
Illinois B/R 87 A/R 27
Maryland B/R 91 A/R 38
New Jersey B/R 90 A/R 47
New York B/R 91 A/R 46
Multiple abortions create risk in subsequent pregnancies.
Interestingly enough where abstinence only is promoted:
Idaho B/R 62 A/R 10
Iowa B/R 55 A/R 12
Nebraska B/R 59 A/R 12
North Dakota B/R 42 A/R 8
South Dakota B/R 54 A/R 7
Utah B/R 53 A/R 6
Wisconsin B/R 55 A/R 12
Now granted, in the southern states where AO (abstinence only) is promoted, the birthrates are higher but the abortion rates are lower.
Infant mortality rates can be tied to an increase in abortions. In Europe they’re lower. Could be their women are smarter and more responsible with the use of contraceptives than are ours.
Guttmacher Institute — Clearly, abortion remains a common experience for women in the U.S.; roughly one-third of women will have an abortion during their reproductive lifetime. The overall abortion rate for the United States ranged from 19 to 29 abortions per 1,000 women over the last 30 years. But the overall U.S. rate masks large differences and varying patterns across time for demographic subgroups. Further research on abortion in the United States should focus specifically on the circumstances facing women in the population subgroups with the highest rates of abortion and unintended pregnancy. In turn, policies intended to increase access to abortion services and to increase women’s ability to avoid unintended pregnancy should likewise direct more attention to these subgroups.
I guess those subgroups are the dumb ones among us?
RW-(the original)
July 30th, 2009
11:37 am
Kamchak,
After the close parenthesis you have a slash instead of a greater than sign.
Pennsylvanian
July 30th, 2009
11:39 am
Wow! Almost 1200 posts from a picture of a fish!
@@
July 30th, 2009
11:41 am
I didn’t use the paragraph closer anywhere in my 11:32.
Thank you Mr. Server. Is consistency asking for too much?
Dusty
July 30th, 2009
11:41 am
Thank you, USinUK, for the usual song and dance. Getting a little touchy about freedom of speech, aren’t you? Too bad.
Thank you “Steenking” and TnGelding for reminding us of 9/11. I was sure it was done by Osama/alQeda but according to you it was Bush.
My, how history and the facts change. I could have sworn that terrorists had been planning for years, even training pilots in the USA long before Bush was even elected. Oh well. those old pesky facts again.
Maybe some of you should stick to sweet potatoes like Jt.
Doggone/GA
July 30th, 2009
11:45 am
“Thank you, USinUK, for the usual song and dance. Getting a little touchy about freedom of speech, aren’t you? Too bad”
As you have just proven…freedom of speech does NOT insulate you from criticism of what you say.
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
11:47 am
@@ –
“Obviously not since our teens are getting pregnant more often without fear of being stigmatized.”
I was referring to the fact that in the UK and Europe, sex isn’t taught as something that should be saved for marriage (or something dirrrrrty that only bad people do). And, gawd knows, they REALLY don’t get the whole “reverance of the chastity ring” movement. I think they’re a lot more realistic about it, that sex is a part of life and a part of relationships.
Where they’re falling down in the UK is on the prevention of STDs (you don’t even wanna know the skyrocketing STD rate we’re seeing right now) and why kids should put off having children of their own.
Scooter
July 30th, 2009
11:49 am
Thanks RW,I will try that!
Normal, Here goes my second shot! Should be zeroed by third shot and get that “warm & fuzzy” feeling.I owe you one.
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
11:51 am
Dusty –
“Thank you, USinUK, for the usual song and dance. Getting a little touchy about freedom of speech, aren’t you? Too bad.”
um. yeah. call me nutty, but the 1st Amendment is one of the many things that make America great. the fact that YOU don’t get that speaks volumes.
“Thank you “Steenking” and TnGelding for reminding us of 9/11. I was sure it was done by Osama/alQeda but according to you it was Bush.”
wow. did you fall on your head as a child or do you deliberately not get the difference between “Bush kept us safe” and “we were attacked on Bush’s watch”.
Kamchak
July 30th, 2009
11:52 am
RW–Thanks I’ll try again
I can’t believe this hasn’t been posted yet.
RW-(the original)
July 30th, 2009
11:58 am
A 78-year-old Carroll woman says she’s so tired of seeing President Barack Obama on the airwaves that she’s selling her television sets – two of them.
Deloris Nissen, a retired nurses’ aide and former Kmart employee who was raised on a farm near Audubon, placed a classified advertisement with The Daily Times Herald for Friday’s paper.
In the $5.50 ad, Nissen tells readers she has two television sets for sale.
The reason: “Obama on every channel and station.”
http://carrollspaper.1upsoftware.com/print.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=8449
Kamchak
July 30th, 2009
11:58 am
One more time
Doggone/GA
July 30th, 2009
12:00 pm
“A 78-year-old Carroll woman says she’s so tired of seeing President Barack Obama on the airwaves that she’s selling her television sets – two of them”
And the problem is? Heck, I spent the previous 8 years adhering to a personal goal of getting the radio turned off before Bush completed saying his THIRD WORD. Made it most times too. I got real quick at punching that button.
Scooter
July 30th, 2009
12:01 pm
This shot is for you Normal. Hold your ears!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMp5YBW-nJ4
RW-(the original)
July 30th, 2009
12:01 pm
Kamchak,
I can’t see what happened that time. I’ve got the format outlined here.
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July 30th, 2009
12:03 pm
I get it USinUK. You’re a big fan of free sex, free contraceptives, free abortion, freedom from responsibility and may the unintended consequences be damned. IT’S ALL ABOUT THE SEX! (emphasis yours)
Come to think of it, why wouldn’t Illinois (Obama’s home state) mandate comprehensive sex education? According to Guttmacher abstinence is to be stressed but contraceptives don’t have to be covered as a preventative measure for pregnancy. Contraceptives are covered only as a preventive tool against STI/HIV.
What….no alternative methods of birth control.
jt
July 30th, 2009
12:03 pm
We Don’t Need No Steenking Government – you posted
” You see, sweet potato plants are an extremely labor intensive product and the markup on the product,”
Obamanism and Statism thrives on un-informed subcitizens such as you.
Sweet potatos are NOT labor intensive.
Obama-bots should stick to their pre-approved talking points(profit bad, goverment good) and leave real topics alone.
Lay off the sweet potato spud face.
Kamchak
July 30th, 2009
12:04 pm
I dunno what went wrong so—-Especially for this blog
http://www.youtube.com?view_play_list?p=D3527EEC7E9C6621
Normal
July 30th, 2009
12:04 pm
Thanks, Scooter. I can’t check it out here at work(You Tube is blocked), but I’ll get to it first thing when I get home
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 30th, 2009
12:06 pm
If he’s following Bush’s policies, then why aren’t you supporting him?
The silence is deafening from the so-called patriotic when such questions are raised. And, by the way, Dusty, Reagan and Rumsfeld, et al, made bin Laden and Hussein all that they could be. You really are blinded by that “nationalism while under conservative Republican rule” thang, aren’t you.
USinUK
July 30th, 2009
12:06 pm
ooo … there’s a big ol’ faaahr – can see the smoke from my window, but no news on what it is, yet … loads of black smoke, though … that’s no good …
Dusty
July 30th, 2009
12:07 pm
Doggone/Ga
You are absolutely correct. “Freedom of speech does not insulate you from criticiam of what you say..”
It certainly doesn’t. Nor does it stop me from writing my criticism of what others say. You see it works both ways.
Ah well, it is time for me to go set the busy world of economics straight with my bad ol’ blind patriotism aka belief in our American system of government. Isn’t that a shame? I could sit here all day and point out problems, just to make it perfect, of course.
Bye now. Let reason prevail! (That must be a quote from SOMEBODY! ??)
RW-(the original)
July 30th, 2009
12:09 pm
The White House has announced they might veto PARTS of the defense spending bill. When did King Obama grant himself a line item veto?
GreenJeans
July 30th, 2009
12:10 pm
“sex isn’t taught as something that should be saved for marriage (or something dirrrrrty that only bad people do…”
As our preacher sometimes says, while pointing out the absurdity of American views of sex:
“Sex is really, really BAD! And you need to save it for the one you love!”
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 30th, 2009
12:13 pm
Did someone REALLY bring up low abortion rates in states that like to threaten clinic workers or kill doctors or bomb clinics as though they could use that data for something other than emphasizing the insanity of the farther than simply right of falwell rightwing nuts. Really!
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 30th, 2009
12:18 pm
The White House has announced they might veto PARTS of the defense spending bill. When did King Obama grant himself a line item veto?
Oh, I don’t know. As Commander in Chief, he might just be able to pull some strings there even without the aid of a line item veto — much as Bush did before him, just in a better way. Oh NO! He’s just like Bush! ARRRRRgHHHHH!
Scooter
July 30th, 2009
12:19 pm
DB,Normal & RW- This should have me at zero for tommorow. Thanks all!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiKzqcII0jQ