I was havin read to me where some folks is gettin hospital work done to them and their inshorance companies are bailin on em and leavin em holdin the bag for bills that might be $100,000 or $800,000 or jest about anything else and these folks might be in their 40s or 70s even and some of them might have a house that is part paid for and others might be livin with their youngens or out on their own in an apartment or a tent. Jest all sorts of folks. So, I got to thinkin what if a 65 year old that is livin off maybe a thousand dollars a month and spendin every penny of that on food and rent and such gits saddled with a $300,000 hospital bill that aint covered by inshorance for whatever reason they dreamed up to not cover their bet that went the wrong way. Well, ifin this person could do without somethin and scrape together say $300 per month to pay toward this bill and ifin this person lived another 20 years then this person could have payed off $72,000 of that $300,000 that was owed before dying. Then, who will git stuck with the rest of the bill. Maybe the conservative republicans can figger a way to pass a bill that makes yore relatives responsible for yore bills when you die. That would make the folks that they is beholdin to might happy, I reckon. So, then I got to figgerin that maybe this person should jest be forced to give the whole $1000 per month to the hospital to pay off that debt and then in 20 years that person would have paid $240,000 of the $300,000 and then the relatives would only git stuck with $60,000 unless they start tacking on a subprime interest rate or somethin. Then, I suppose we might as well just all accept our fates as the indentured class. Hospitals and doctors and inshorance companies and such will own us all for our entire lives. Sounds sorta like one of them socialist life styles cept that it will be the big businesses that we be beholdin to forever and ever and ever and ever and ever. At least it aint called communism or socialism so that makes it better.
“now that new unemployment numbers are receding, the fear of being laid off also recedes, improving confidence.”
Maybe historically, but we are in unchartered waters. Many of the 80+% still employed are working in very lean environments knowing their turn may be just around the corner. Housing appears to be a false flag, as historically, people move in the summer while school is out. Large segments of the housing market still in limbo, and fall and winter have always been down months. How many builders across the country hanging on by a thread and waiting for round 2 of layoffs with the fall/winter numbers? Commercial real estate also at the bottom with many up against the wall not paying their mortgages. Commercial historically fails with a lag time behind residential, and businesses continue to close their doors leading to even less income for landlords.
I’d love to be wrong, but historically, the other shoe hasn’t even fallen yet.
ha. here’s the choice: being an international broker working with world leaders (which will lead to HUGE speaking fees and book deals later on ) and being 1 of 9 and not in charge.
So, I got to thinkin what if a 65 year old that is livin off maybe a thousand dollars a month and spendin every penny of that on food and rent and such gits saddled with a $300,000 hospital bill that aint covered by inshorance for whatever reason . . .
(cough) bankruptcy (cough)–with apologizes to our conservative friends.
She knows where the money in her and Bill’s account came from. I bet she’s chomping at the bit to not have sex with someone and joining the very lucrative speaking circuit. Then she can write a juicy book on how she got even with Bill.
The fastest way to build consumer confidence is to let that consumer know that less wealth will be seized from his or her by our benevolent goverment.
The federal withholding, state taxes, permits, fees, worker’s comp, etc…… and NOW some insurance scam gets to be a drag on motivation, confidence, and innovation.
When times were flush, goverment grew exponentionally. Now that it is tight, the federal goverment should shut up and get out of the way. And lay off 40% of its workforce.
If not, we are talking a 10 year malaise. Or a lost decade. Or maybe the great depression redux.
I believe November 2010 will prove the wisdom of the great American silent majority.
Libertarians will finally break double digits, which will cause the R&D party to behave. somewhat.
According to all them believers in free markets and things, the only thing we done wrong was to git in the way by throwin good money after bad. They knows that in a free market things jest go up and down naturally and we jest go along for the ride. Some rides the crest and makes out like bandits and some fall in the trough and die and that is the law of nature at work. So what we needed to do was jest let businesses fail that was gonna fail like all of the banks and the auto makers and all of them that support them and that way we coulda already bottomed out at about 25 percent unemployment and been on the road to recovery and everyone would been better for it.
“Maybe historically, but we are in unchartered waters. Many of the 80+% still employed are working in very lean environments knowing their turn may be just around the corner. Housing appears to be a false flag, as historically, people move in the summer while school is out.”
well, the thing about forecasts is that they factor those things in, so when you read that home sales are better than expected, part of those expectations include normal activity.
“How many builders across the country hanging on by a thread and waiting for round 2 of layoffs with the fall/winter numbers? Commercial real estate also at the bottom with many up against the wall not paying their mortgages. Commercial historically fails with a lag time behind residential, and businesses continue to close their doors leading to even less income for landlords.”
well, that’s why everyone is following what’s going on with new home sales (which exceeded expectations this month).
as far as commercial real estate, I agree that’s the next shoe – but I can tell you this from first-hand experience – investors aren’t being caught with their pants around their ankles on this the way they were with residential.
me, I’m still voting for bulldozers to solve the inventory problem.
“Libertarians will finally break double digits, which will cause the R&D party to behave. somewhat.”
The problem with this premise is Libertarians tend to take votes away from the gop, and not the dems. Dems like gov’t, libs do not. So, the dems benefit and the rest of us suffer the consequences of bigger gov’t.
(cough) bankruptcy (cough)–with apologizes to our conservative friends.
That is clearly the logical step to take. And, if enough people take that step, what sort of lesson do people learn from that and implement themselves. Would that naturally drive people away from even trying to own anything of value since they know that they could lose it all in bankruptcy court due to one big hospital bill. Do big businesses look then to get even more changes made to the laws such as not allowing medical bills to be removed due to a bankruptcy, etc.
“well, the thing about forecasts is that they factor those things in, so when you read that home sales are better than expected, part of those expectations include normal activity.”
And considering those forecasts are based on already lower numbers, then its a wash. 10% of nothing is still nothing.
“as far as commercial real estate, I agree that’s the next shoe – but I can tell you this from first-hand experience – investors aren’t being caught with their pants around their ankles on this the way they were with residential.”
There are in my area, as the banks refuse to help. Too many banks with tarp money factored in to the equation. Why help the investors when uncle sugar has deep pockets of our money.
al-Gitmo: Bruno has spent her entire career scheming and plotting, you think she’s retired now that there is a nice fat plump little target like Obozo on the firing range?
hahahaha, yeah, ok.
Billy is probably gnawing on his restraints as we speak.
The fastest way to build consumer confidence is to let that consumer know that…corporations will be held accountable to the rule of law.
And that white collar criminals by the thousands will not be allowed to walk off with you money and mine. But will serve time for their piracy and gangster capitalism.
But it ain’t gonna happen boys and girls. Too many lobbyists, too many monied masters that own the politicians and WAY too many dupes who are either too thick to understand or two immoral to care..
“And considering those forecasts are based on already lower numbers, then its a wash. 10% of nothing is still nothing.”
as Ava Gabor would say, had she been an economist, “movement, daahling” … it’s the steepness of the decline/the trend of whether the decline is speeding up or slowing down. even though the year-on-year numbers are negative, most numbers have been less negative than preceding months – and, in fact, the S&P/Case Schiller house price index showed its first month of growth in 3 years. you can look at it as 10% better than crap, but most people look at it as a sign that the market is turning.
as far as commercial – i’m sorry, I wasn’t clear. I mean institutional investors that held CMBS but have since liquidated their holdings.
“The problem with this premise is Libertarians tend to take votes away from the gop, and not the dems. Dems like gov’t, libs do not. So, the dems benefit and the rest of us suffer the consequences of bigger gov’t.”
jt replies- as opposed to Republicans.??? Before Obama came along, Bush, with his REPUBLICAN congress broke all goverment spending records. And grew it too. Astronomically.
The less of two evils is still evil.
At least the democrats have more truth in advertising.
“you think she’s retired now that there is a nice fat plump little target like Obozo on the firing range?”
you guys love to say that the left is obsessed with St. Sarah of the Tundra, but let me tell you, it’s NOTHING compared to the fever dreams you guys have about Hillary.
This has got to be the dumbest chief executive to ever hit the White House, hands down, somewhere Dhimmi Carter breathes a sigh of relief. Herbert Hoover smiles from beyond.
If Axelrod or Emanual don’t tell Obozo that the knife is fixing to be stuck in his back, he will just keep playing with the toys in his rubber room, totally unaware.
What a prime target of opportunity.
And who knows, they may all soon be conspiring against their little tard.
“jt replies- as opposed to Republicans.??? Before Obama came along, Bush, with his REPUBLICAN congress broke all goverment spending records. And grew it too. Astronomically.”
Historically, Reps are fiscally conservative, as are Blue Dog dems, and Bush was , well Bush.
If you go back in history, Obama was one of very few dems to ever campaign on tax cuts/freeze.
And don’t look now, but Barry and his all dem congress is blowing away any spending done by the Bush crowd. Even the Blue dogs can see that.
“And that white collar criminals by the thousands will not be allowed to walk off with you money and mine. But will serve time for their piracy and gangster capitalism.”
No way man, corporate welfare is the new new thing (at least new since the last bailout of S&Ls back in 1991)
Agreed wholeheartedly–though I do believe that lobbyists do play a role by giving those with no voice access to our elected officials. Unfortunately lobbyists are working for corporations like GE, Altria, Ratheon etc. who have very large voices. The only silver bullet I see is campaign finance reform. Alas, those laws must be written by the very people that need to be regulated.
I’m am not and will not defend Bush, he spent too much.
Having said that, just because it was done in the past doesn’t make it ok now. We need a gov’t that will cut up the credit cards and balance the budget, not one that just continues to raise the credit limit.
You can’t forget that democrats are some low, power hungry mf’s, when they see Obozo dragging down their whole filthy house of cards, loyalty is going to extinct.
Well, I see this Obama keeps going down and down in the polls. I sure wish we had somebody that could run against him. Sarah, much as I love her, couldn’t get elected Class Treasurer right now. And nobody down here is going to vote for a heathen Mormon like Romney. Everybody down here would vote for the Rev. Huckabee but nobody else in the whole country would. And then the man that might could of been our best hope left his fambly and state and went off to Argentina to be with his mistress. And if old Newt decided to run they’d be bringing up them divorce papers he served on his wife that was in the hospitle with cancer and then later was sleeping with a woman while he was married and trying to get Clinton impeached over that intern.
So there’s the problem. Right there we got the White House just about wide open and ready for us to take but we got nobody that can take it. Heck, I might have to open the Redneck Convert for President campaign again just to give us a chance. I know I could get more votes than any of the “name” Republicans that might decide to run. Have a good p.m. everybody.
“WASHINGTON (AP) — The Government Accountability Office on Tuesday added the Postal Service to its list of high-risk federal agencies in need of change.
The post office has been struggling with a sharp decline in mail volume as people and businesses switch to e-mail both for personal contact and bill paying. The agency is facing a nearly $7 billion potential loss this fiscal year despite a 2-cent increase in the price of stamps in May, and cuts in staff.
“There are serious and significant structural financial challenges currently facing the Postal Service,” the GAO said.”
Postal service, Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, public education………………..and now the buffoons want to add healthcare on top of programs they already have problems with.
Is it just me, or does anybody else see a problem with this picture.
As usual, in your dreams. The party that’s crashing is the one you support. You know, the one that doesn’t care about the health of Americans. The one that doesn’t care about the environment. The one that tried to block help for the unemployed. The one that tried to cut funds for education. The one that brought California to it’s knees. I could do this all day.
mmoron- When you liberals were nothing but obscure diaper filling moonbats splashing around in the fever swamps, making Mount Whine out of every Bush molehill, you could lie to the American people what smart and wonderful people you were.
But now that you have been flushed out into the open and forced to act like adults, the American people are saying eewww, what dummies.
Those are the chief findings of the latest NPR poll of 850 registered voters conducted nationwide Wednesday through Sunday by a bipartisan team. The pollsters found 53 percent approving of the president’s handling of his job, while 42 percent disapproved — the narrowest gap of the Obama presidency to date. Most of the approving group said they approved strongly, and an even greater majority of the disapproving group said they disapproved strongly.-National Pinko Radio
If you’ve lost NPR, you’ve lost the moonbats, ahahahahaha.
Wrong again. The only people complaining are the republicans and their dimwit uneducated supporters, and they don’t act like Americans. The only Dem supporters I’ve seen complaining are the ones that are mad because the dems have not shoved healthcare straight up the GOP @sses.
md,
I don’t expect a wingnut to own up to a mistake. It’s bad enough the GOP destroyed our economy, but their tax cuts have crippled our state and local governments as well. But you’ll never see REAL news on Fox News so you wouldn’t understand.
“I don’t expect a wingnut to own up to a mistake. It’s bad enough the GOP destroyed our economy, but their tax cuts have crippled our state and local governments as well. But you’ll never see REAL news on Fox News so you wouldn’t understand.”
Put up or shut up. Post facts please. Show is all the the underlying facts of your assertions. Google is your friend. Per California, do you always read just the cover of the book? You sound like a good little parrott, towing the party line.
And do you always use the term “wingnut” for anybody that doesn’t agree with what you think? Thats so juvenile.
By the way, it shore was nice of the Bushwhacker 2001 to look out fer the consumers with that Bankruptcy law stuff that he signed off on. Ifin you learn anything from a conservative republican it should be to never turn yore back on one of them. 2005 Bankruptcy Law Changes Causing Subprime Loan Scandal
I heer that republican gubernator out in californa is showing everyone what for. He don pulled the plug on helpin them poor youngens in his state that cant take keer of themselves even though they has done popped out of their mommies and should be able to by now. And that is jest fer starters. Ifin I was him, I would go ahead and open all the jail cells up too and send all the police and farmen home since they is jest too spensive to upkeep. Then, they could git rid of their real teachers too like we done here in georgia.
A bit of history trivia here…Y’all know where the term “Lobbyist” came from. U. S. Grant, when he was the President, used to like to sit in a hotel lobby and relax(can’t remember the name of the hotel), but people would come up to him and push their special interest and became known as lobbyists. Strange that one of the most corrupt administrations in our history would start what has become a bane on our government…did I mention Grant was a Republican?
Arizona lawmakers, desperate for cash, are considering selling the House and Senate buildings, then leasing them back over several years before assuming ownership again. Dozens of other state buildings may also be sold off and leased back as the state grapples with a huge budget deficit. Under the complex financial arrangement, state government services would continue without interruption while the state picks up a cash infusion estimated at $735 million. For investors, the deal means long-term lease payments from a stable source.
The state’s budget shortfall is projected at around $3.4 billion.
If they would jest try to live within their means they would not be so bad off.
“But you’ll never see REAL news on Fox News so you wouldn’t understand.””
This is also where you are wrong. Unlike yourself, I prefer to watch all the channels so as to make the best decision possible as to what to believe and what not to believe. One can not make an informed decision leaving out variables. You do yourself an injustice by only watching those channels you agree with. Sitting in your chair nodding your head in agreement is hardly the way to keep an open mind.
Wow, your very own Tom Price will be introducing a health care reform bill tomorrow.
“According to the summary, the bill aims to make health care accessible to all Americans by creating tax incentives for consumers to purchase insurance on the individual market, encouraging states to assist consumers with pre-existing conditions, and promoting the employer-based insurance system that is popular with many Americans.”
“Instead of focusing on regulating private insurers, the plan would in fact give them more freedom to work across state lines.”
So lets see, another TAX CUT by a republican. This one will cut government revenues and give the money to insuance companies. Wow, an annual $1000 dollar tax cut to pay for an $800 a month insurance premium. And deregulating the insurances companies.
No telling what else is in this POS bill. Is there nothing a wingnut thinks a tax cut won’t cure?
We all knows that dinosaurs roamed the earth a thousand years or so ago. and whatever Hannety says has to be the gospel truth cause he would never let his outwardly bigoted and jest plane mean and nasty thoughts toward Obama influence his journalistic integrety and the same goes for Huckebe and for Rush and one day maybe even for Sarah ifin she ever gits a time slot on the radio or on fox, the only channel for truth in the news channel. Every other channel is jest piled knee deep in them other people that dont know the truth bout nothin.
Yes, lobbyist have a bad rep, but I believe they can serve those with no access to elected officials. When the Supreme Court ruled that money equals free speech was when lobbyists began to run this country.
Is there nothing a wingnut thinks a tax cut won’t cure?
Nope. Why, they claim to not even need Viagra ifin they git a big enough tax cut. And, even better, they claim that the effects never wear off for them. Their swelled heads jest stay that way permanently or until they catch wind of another tax that they did not git rid of.
I wants to know why cant we jest elect businesses to govment and cut out the middle man. Exxon could be the ’senator’ for texas, georgia power for georgia and so on. That way everyone saves. The big businesses would not need lobbyists no more and they would not need to give money to themselves to run campains since they would all ready be the govment. They could even git rid of elections since they would not serve no porpoise no more. Come to think of it, we don’t need no steenking govment.
Kamchak, yes the issue of lobbyists is a touchy one.
In theory they serve a good purpose. But in reality they are out of control and have undue power (via boatloads of dirty money and influence peddling).
The number of registered lobbyists in Washington has more than doubled since 2000 to more than 34,750!
The lobbying boom has been caused by three factors, experts say: rapid growth in government, Republican control of both the White House and Congress, and wide acceptance among corporations that they need to hire professional lobbyists to secure their share of federal benefits.
“There’s unlimited business out there for us,” said Robert L. Livingston, a Republican former chairman of the House Appropriations Committee and now president of a thriving six-year-old lobbying firm. “Companies need lobbying help.”
Lobbying firms can’t hire people fast enough. Starting salaries have risen to about $300,000 a year for the best-connected aides eager to “move downtown” from Capitol Hill or the Bush administration. Once considered a distasteful post-government vocation, big-bucks lobbying is luring nearly half of all lawmakers who return to the private sector when they leave Congress, according to a forthcoming study by Public Citizen’s Congress Watch.
But the worst aspect is that this nation is now a government of the General Motors, by the General Dynamics and for the General Electrics…
md wrote: The Government Accountability Office on Tuesday added the Postal Service to its list of high-risk federal agencies in need of change.
The post office has been struggling with a sharp decline in mail volume as people and businesses switch to e-mail both for personal contact and bill paying. The agency is facing a nearly $7 billion potential loss this fiscal year despite a 2-cent increase in the price of stamps in May, and cuts in staff.
The GAO should be applauded here – this is a prime opportunity to cut a dying beast. They should cut the number of delivery days to 4 and consolidate facilities. I am just flabergasted when I see spaning new usps facilies springing up all the time.
Maybe they could switch the Passport photo/application process to the police stations or fire stations.
The only thng I use mail for is Netflix and packages I don’t need right away…and some bills.
I find it interesting that USinUK(cough) measures infant mortality in inches.
If a baby is born breathing and then dies within 24 to 48 hours, they’re not counted as mortals in many European countries. They’re mythical in U.K.’s world. Americans will always count babies as worthwhile — some of us will anyway.
On the economy? You’re entitled to all the confidence you can muster but not many Americans are sharing in it.
As much as government revenues have dropped, I’m thinking there is an increase in noncompliance. Wonder how many “businesses” are behind on forwarding their payroll deductions to the IRS and can’t get loans to make payroll?
A true conservative-based party would likely have NONE of these modern day Republiconned in it. As soon as they heard there’s no Jesus in government, they’d say no thanks…
And Bob Dole? At least he was a GOPer with some freaking guts! One of the last of the Republicans who was not yellow to the core ala Bush, Cheney, Saxby ad nauseum…
As for besting the mulatto, how could he do it when RINO McCain, 9/11 Rudy, Flip flopping Lurch, Flat-earth Sam, Large & Lazy Fred, Huckleberry, Duncan “Nuke ‘em” Hunter and Tom “Who?” Tancredo couldn’t?
A laughable and sorry lot.
But gawd, last year was a lot of fun! Watching those buffoons implode on the national stage and the ensuing teeth gnashing by the idiotic talking heads and their faithful followers was and still is, outstanding entertainment…
Wow This talk about The Family is some really sicko whackjob nutcase preverted stuff. These folks say they operate like the mafia and that they want the world to be run by folks like Osama bin Laden and Hitler and some feller named Inhofe from Oklahoma is one of them. Yuk.
“A president and a governor, what else do you need? Oh, I forgot, they don’t do that “vision thing.””
May want to include the rest of the gov’t. CA has been traditionally democratic for many years. But for many here, its much easier to ignore the involvement of both parties in order to push forth an agenda. The gop was the head of the snake, but there were many others (read dems) that made up the body.
Take a look at the direct subsidies for Medicare Part C if you want to get really riled up.
“Medicare Advantage plans wrap physician and hospital services in one, often with vision and drug coverage. Unlike traditional Medicare, the government doesn’t pay physicians and hospitals directly but instead pays insurers to manage care. Currently, though, a patient in these plans costs the government an average of 14% more than if he or she stayed in traditional Medicare.”
Just to prove how much I care….pick any one of your posts and I’ll continue to run it while you’re on vacation. I can change the wording just a tad so’s nobody’ll know you’re gone.
I’ll be your proxy poster. The post you choose cannot, however, be directed an any particular blogger. One of your many generics will do.
This blog is amazing. I mean there are people here who neither, eat, sleep or ….well…depart from this place. What a life! 100% of the time blogging! A mind shriveling approach to finality!
The most realistic plain spoken and irritating (to some) blogger here is “I report (You whine)” He is so factual, his posts hit liberals right on their weak wanderings which irritates them no end. The truth hurts so he uses it!
The most boring blogger is the copycat RedNeck with an ID he calls “We don’t need no steenking gov’t”. He spouts what northerners think is Southern conversation. Just skip over his trash. Don’t waste your time on waste..
I commend @@ for her knowledge of national and international affairs. She tries to bring some rational info to the mudslinging here. She is one California girl I say welcome to southern status anytime. She’s a winner (and can even “can” peaches and peas!)
Then there is Bosch, an original with a fresh approach. Sorry about his oak tree. My son went through that recently, only a pine tree hit his home. And pine not even good for firewood!
So carry on…the good, the bad, the ugly! Bookman shall return! Journalists never die. They just fish away. (But he will be proud of his long lost liberal loonies whose only home is this blog.)
Yeah, I’m aware of the Democrats controlling the legislature. Did the decline start with Reagan? I’m thinking and hoping y’all will come back stronger and better. I was surprised that Arnold was elected.
Well, you can tell Sister Dusty I ain’t We Don’t Need No Steenking Govt. Don’t know who that guy is, but looks like he writes pretty good–just too often. Otherwise, Sister Dusty has hurt me real deep and I don’t think I’ll be including her in my prayers at the trailer tonight. Have a good night everybody.
Does the term “multi-tasking” mean anything to you?
“House Democrats reach healthcare deal”
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Democratic leaders in the U.S. House of Representatives reached a deal on Wednesday with a group of fiscal conservatives in their own party on healthcare legislation in a significant step forward for the bill.
I is hear on a two-folded mission. I wants to see what number comes after 999 cause it is the invert of 666 and so it has special meaning to us Billy Grayham southerners. Then, I likes to jest spread the werd. Finally, I likes to show folks like Dusty and @@ that they aint the only comedy show in town although they are perty funny. It is that Gonedeaf the White or whatever he calls hisself that is most boring though. Dusty is jest plane wrong. He’s probly not even southern like that @@ aint.
Kamchak writes When the Supreme Court ruled that money equals free speech was when lobbyists began to run this country.
You got a point there.
AmVet mentioned Bob Dole.
I’d recommend his book, “One Soldier’s Story”. There is very little political content in it, it’s mainly about his upbringing and his struggles to overcome his war wounds. He talks about how he and two fellow patients, Phil Hart and Daniel Inouye went on to serve in the Senate. He said that even though they had opposing political views there was always a bond between them.
Shouts out to Gale, Gandalf and USinUK from the former W2W blog. Have any of you heard from Mara?? I sure miss chatting with her.
I am tempted to join in the ObamaCare discussion, but I’m not sure my blood pressure can take it. Now that the Free Lunch crowd is in control, everything that has made the USA the greatest country on Earth is being systematically dismantled. 2010 can’t come soon enough for me…
I will say this, however: “Health”, “Health Care”, and “Health Insurance” are three distinct entities, none of which depends on the other. To wit, “Health” comes from within, and is generally a reflection of our lifestyles, and not the amount of “Health Care” ( i.e. drugs and surgery) one receives. As for “Health Insurance”, the biggest improvement we could make to our current “Health Care” delivery system would be the elimination of the third-party payor system altogether. If that happened, 99% of the fraud and waste would be eliminated overnight once consumers were back in control of their own spending.
The bottom line is that the only legitimate purpose for ANY type of “insurance” is to protect people from rare, catastrophic events. Once you start including routine expenses, such as routine doctors visits, it is no longer insurance.
For those of you here who don’t know me, I have been a health care provider for the past 23+ years and have also taken the Actuarial Exams. In addition, I am one of the “Uninsured Americans”–by choice. From what I have read, part of ObamaCare calls for the direct seizure of money from the bank accounts of those who choose not to participate in the scam known as “Health Insurance”. Heil Obama!
I’ve both read Gone With The Wind and seen the movie. I’d recommend the book over the movie. It’s a pretty good story but it’s fiction. People forget that. There’s tons of historical inaccuracies in it. Taken as a story it’s pretty good. Scarlett was the main character in the book but I found her younger sister Caroline to be far more interesting. (Her role was cut way down in the movie, to barely being there.) I also found the music in the movie to be way overblown but that may have been the movie making style of the time.
And by the way the famous line in the book and movie are different. The movie, “Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn”. The book, “My dear, I don’t give a damn”.
Is it true the blue dogs have surrendered to the non-profit cooperatives? It’s what…$100.00 a year buys up to $3,000 in healthcare. Can I assume that $300.00 a year buys up to $9,000.00 in healthcare…
I’m sorry you have not read Gone With the WInd. It is one exciting book. Margaret Mitchell won a Pulitzer Prize for it in 1937. It had taken her ten years to write it. Over 30 million copies have been sold at last count. Anyway, Scarlett was one beautiful, hardheaded determined Southern plantation “belle’ of Irish heritage who was never dull in any way. When Civil War hard times hit, she just fought harder for what she wanted. She succeeded in some ways and lost in others. The movie was as good as the book with Clark Gable and Vivian Leigh at their best. Classic entertainment.
I did not see your review until after I had posted mine. That was a book and movie I really enjoyed. Haven’t come across anything as entertaining as GWTW in a long time.
The book I can do. I have yet to go to watch a two-hour movie all the way through. Either I can’t sit still long enough or I fall asleep. My husband told me that GWTW was four hours!!??!!
Well, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn is the only proper book to read ifin you want a true accounting of southern life. And, they made that into a mighty fine movie too. Didn’t whitewash it a bit neither.
“Aside from being the main character (or so I’ve heard) she was….?”
Not a great beauty. Practical-smart, but education-limited. Focused, to a fault – loses the big picture and real happiness to fruitless pursuits. Immature. Selfish. Stubborn. Short-sighted. A gritty survivor. Mostly unhappy. A pr!cktease. A user. A liar. A lover, a hater, the center of her own universe.
She do not like the radish anymore; she do like the brandy, another woman’s man, and Mama’s earbobs.
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TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
11:21 am
jt
July 29th, 2009
11:11 am
Yeah, I think he might have been a much better president if he had been 10 years younger.
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
11:24 am
I was havin read to me where some folks is gettin hospital work done to them and their inshorance companies are bailin on em and leavin em holdin the bag for bills that might be $100,000 or $800,000 or jest about anything else and these folks might be in their 40s or 70s even and some of them might have a house that is part paid for and others might be livin with their youngens or out on their own in an apartment or a tent. Jest all sorts of folks. So, I got to thinkin what if a 65 year old that is livin off maybe a thousand dollars a month and spendin every penny of that on food and rent and such gits saddled with a $300,000 hospital bill that aint covered by inshorance for whatever reason they dreamed up to not cover their bet that went the wrong way. Well, ifin this person could do without somethin and scrape together say $300 per month to pay toward this bill and ifin this person lived another 20 years then this person could have payed off $72,000 of that $300,000 that was owed before dying. Then, who will git stuck with the rest of the bill. Maybe the conservative republicans can figger a way to pass a bill that makes yore relatives responsible for yore bills when you die. That would make the folks that they is beholdin to might happy, I reckon. So, then I got to figgerin that maybe this person should jest be forced to give the whole $1000 per month to the hospital to pay off that debt and then in 20 years that person would have paid $240,000 of the $300,000 and then the relatives would only git stuck with $60,000 unless they start tacking on a subprime interest rate or somethin. Then, I suppose we might as well just all accept our fates as the indentured class. Hospitals and doctors and inshorance companies and such will own us all for our entire lives. Sounds sorta like one of them socialist life styles cept that it will be the big businesses that we be beholdin to forever and ever and ever and ever and ever. At least it aint called communism or socialism so that makes it better.
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
11:25 am
getalife
July 29th, 2009
11:15 am
What about the next opening on the court? I’d like to see her challenge Obama, but she’s much too loyal to the party to do that.
md
July 29th, 2009
11:31 am
“now that new unemployment numbers are receding, the fear of being laid off also recedes, improving confidence.”
Maybe historically, but we are in unchartered waters. Many of the 80+% still employed are working in very lean environments knowing their turn may be just around the corner. Housing appears to be a false flag, as historically, people move in the summer while school is out. Large segments of the housing market still in limbo, and fall and winter have always been down months. How many builders across the country hanging on by a thread and waiting for round 2 of layoffs with the fall/winter numbers? Commercial real estate also at the bottom with many up against the wall not paying their mortgages. Commercial historically fails with a lag time behind residential, and businesses continue to close their doors leading to even less income for landlords.
I’d love to be wrong, but historically, the other shoe hasn’t even fallen yet.
USinUK
July 29th, 2009
11:32 am
TnG –
“What about the next opening on the court?”
ha. here’s the choice: being an international broker working with world leaders (which will lead to HUGE speaking fees and book deals later on ) and being 1 of 9 and not in charge.
hrmmm … tough decision.
Curious Observer
July 29th, 2009
11:33 am
So, I got to thinkin what if a 65 year old that is livin off maybe a thousand dollars a month and spendin every penny of that on food and rent and such gits saddled with a $300,000 hospital bill that aint covered by inshorance for whatever reason . . .
(cough) bankruptcy (cough)–with apologizes to our conservative friends.
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
11:36 am
USinUK
July 29th, 2009
11:32 am
I don’t see her staying at State for more than the first term. What about Obama on the court and her as president?
md
July 29th, 2009
11:36 am
What about the next opening on the court?”
She knows where the money in her and Bill’s account came from. I bet she’s chomping at the bit to not have sex with someone and joining the very lucrative speaking circuit. Then she can write a juicy book on how she got even with Bill.
jt
July 29th, 2009
11:38 am
The fastest way to build consumer confidence is to let that consumer know that less wealth will be seized from his or her by our benevolent goverment.
The federal withholding, state taxes, permits, fees, worker’s comp, etc…… and NOW some insurance scam gets to be a drag on motivation, confidence, and innovation.
When times were flush, goverment grew exponentionally. Now that it is tight, the federal goverment should shut up and get out of the way. And lay off 40% of its workforce.
If not, we are talking a 10 year malaise. Or a lost decade. Or maybe the great depression redux.
I believe November 2010 will prove the wisdom of the great American silent majority.
Libertarians will finally break double digits, which will cause the R&D party to behave. somewhat.
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
11:39 am
According to all them believers in free markets and things, the only thing we done wrong was to git in the way by throwin good money after bad. They knows that in a free market things jest go up and down naturally and we jest go along for the ride. Some rides the crest and makes out like bandits and some fall in the trough and die and that is the law of nature at work. So what we needed to do was jest let businesses fail that was gonna fail like all of the banks and the auto makers and all of them that support them and that way we coulda already bottomed out at about 25 percent unemployment and been on the road to recovery and everyone would been better for it.
USinUK
July 29th, 2009
11:41 am
md –
can I just say … yippeee!!! another econo-geek!!
“Maybe historically, but we are in unchartered waters. Many of the 80+% still employed are working in very lean environments knowing their turn may be just around the corner. Housing appears to be a false flag, as historically, people move in the summer while school is out.”
well, the thing about forecasts is that they factor those things in, so when you read that home sales are better than expected, part of those expectations include normal activity.
“How many builders across the country hanging on by a thread and waiting for round 2 of layoffs with the fall/winter numbers? Commercial real estate also at the bottom with many up against the wall not paying their mortgages. Commercial historically fails with a lag time behind residential, and businesses continue to close their doors leading to even less income for landlords.”
well, that’s why everyone is following what’s going on with new home sales (which exceeded expectations this month).
as far as commercial real estate, I agree that’s the next shoe – but I can tell you this from first-hand experience – investors aren’t being caught with their pants around their ankles on this the way they were with residential.
me, I’m still voting for bulldozers to solve the inventory problem.
md
July 29th, 2009
11:42 am
“Libertarians will finally break double digits, which will cause the R&D party to behave. somewhat.”
The problem with this premise is Libertarians tend to take votes away from the gop, and not the dems. Dems like gov’t, libs do not. So, the dems benefit and the rest of us suffer the consequences of bigger gov’t.
USinUK
July 29th, 2009
11:43 am
TnG –
“What about Obama on the court and her as president?”
and that’s #1 on the “never gonna happen” hit parade.
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
11:43 am
(cough) bankruptcy (cough)–with apologizes to our conservative friends.
That is clearly the logical step to take. And, if enough people take that step, what sort of lesson do people learn from that and implement themselves. Would that naturally drive people away from even trying to own anything of value since they know that they could lose it all in bankruptcy court due to one big hospital bill. Do big businesses look then to get even more changes made to the laws such as not allowing medical bills to be removed due to a bankruptcy, etc.
USinUK
July 29th, 2009
11:45 am
“(cough) bankruptcy (cough)–with apologizes to our conservative friends”
well, yes, that WOULD have been the option prior to the 2005 Bankruptcy bill …
sadly, no more.
md
July 29th, 2009
11:50 am
“well, the thing about forecasts is that they factor those things in, so when you read that home sales are better than expected, part of those expectations include normal activity.”
And considering those forecasts are based on already lower numbers, then its a wash. 10% of nothing is still nothing.
“as far as commercial real estate, I agree that’s the next shoe – but I can tell you this from first-hand experience – investors aren’t being caught with their pants around their ankles on this the way they were with residential.”
There are in my area, as the banks refuse to help. Too many banks with tarp money factored in to the equation. Why help the investors when uncle sugar has deep pockets of our money.
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
July 29th, 2009
11:55 am
al-Gitmo: Bruno has spent her entire career scheming and plotting, you think she’s retired now that there is a nice fat plump little target like Obozo on the firing range?
hahahaha, yeah, ok.
Billy is probably gnawing on his restraints as we speak.
AmVet
July 29th, 2009
11:55 am
The fastest way to build consumer confidence is to let that consumer know that…corporations will be held accountable to the rule of law.
And that white collar criminals by the thousands will not be allowed to walk off with you money and mine. But will serve time for their piracy and gangster capitalism.
But it ain’t gonna happen boys and girls. Too many lobbyists, too many monied masters that own the politicians and WAY too many dupes who are either too thick to understand or two immoral to care..
USinUK
July 29th, 2009
12:00 pm
md –
“And considering those forecasts are based on already lower numbers, then its a wash. 10% of nothing is still nothing.”
as Ava Gabor would say, had she been an economist, “movement, daahling” … it’s the steepness of the decline/the trend of whether the decline is speeding up or slowing down. even though the year-on-year numbers are negative, most numbers have been less negative than preceding months – and, in fact, the S&P/Case Schiller house price index showed its first month of growth in 3 years. you can look at it as 10% better than crap, but most people look at it as a sign that the market is turning.
as far as commercial – i’m sorry, I wasn’t clear. I mean institutional investors that held CMBS but have since liquidated their holdings.
jt
July 29th, 2009
12:01 pm
md- you commented.
“The problem with this premise is Libertarians tend to take votes away from the gop, and not the dems. Dems like gov’t, libs do not. So, the dems benefit and the rest of us suffer the consequences of bigger gov’t.”
jt replies- as opposed to Republicans.??? Before Obama came along, Bush, with his REPUBLICAN congress broke all goverment spending records. And grew it too. Astronomically.
The less of two evils is still evil.
At least the democrats have more truth in advertising.
USinUK
July 29th, 2009
12:01 pm
whiner –
“you think she’s retired now that there is a nice fat plump little target like Obozo on the firing range?”
you guys love to say that the left is obsessed with St. Sarah of the Tundra, but let me tell you, it’s NOTHING compared to the fever dreams you guys have about Hillary.
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
July 29th, 2009
12:02 pm
This has got to be the dumbest chief executive to ever hit the White House, hands down, somewhere Dhimmi Carter breathes a sigh of relief. Herbert Hoover smiles from beyond.
If Axelrod or Emanual don’t tell Obozo that the knife is fixing to be stuck in his back, he will just keep playing with the toys in his rubber room, totally unaware.
What a prime target of opportunity.
And who knows, they may all soon be conspiring against their little tard.
Either way, it ain’t gonna be pretty.
eewww
getalife
July 29th, 2009
12:08 pm
Too bad the cons did not stab w in the back when he destroyed our country.
Andy shilled for him.
Ew.
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
12:11 pm
I Report
You Whine
July 29th, 2009
12:02 pm
…and Bush exhales. How soon we forget.
md
July 29th, 2009
12:13 pm
“jt replies- as opposed to Republicans.??? Before Obama came along, Bush, with his REPUBLICAN congress broke all goverment spending records. And grew it too. Astronomically.”
Historically, Reps are fiscally conservative, as are Blue Dog dems, and Bush was , well Bush.
If you go back in history, Obama was one of very few dems to ever campaign on tax cuts/freeze.
And don’t look now, but Barry and his all dem congress is blowing away any spending done by the Bush crowd. Even the Blue dogs can see that.
Finn McCool
July 29th, 2009
12:16 pm
“And that white collar criminals by the thousands will not be allowed to walk off with you money and mine. But will serve time for their piracy and gangster capitalism.”
No way man, corporate welfare is the new new thing (at least new since the last bailout of S&Ls back in 1991)
Crime does pay!
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
12:16 pm
md
July 29th, 2009
12:13 pm
The deficit would have been over a trillion dollars without the stimulus spending. Bush was handed a surplus.
USinUK
July 29th, 2009
12:16 pm
heading home … have a lovely evening!!!
AmVet
July 29th, 2009
12:19 pm
“Historically, Reps are fiscally conservative, as are Blue Dog dems, and Bush was , well Bush.”
Yes, md, the GOP was, but only until Eisenhower.
And after that they made a 180 degree turn, absolutely exploding the size, scope, cost and interference of government.
Staggering corporate welfare mixed with the morality police eventually sunk them to the point they are at now – hemorrhaging and virtually irrlevant…
Kamchak
July 29th, 2009
12:22 pm
AmVet @11:55
Agreed wholeheartedly–though I do believe that lobbyists do play a role by giving those with no voice access to our elected officials. Unfortunately lobbyists are working for corporations like GE, Altria, Ratheon etc. who have very large voices. The only silver bullet I see is campaign finance reform. Alas, those laws must be written by the very people that need to be regulated.
md
July 29th, 2009
12:22 pm
Tn,
I’m am not and will not defend Bush, he spent too much.
Having said that, just because it was done in the past doesn’t make it ok now. We need a gov’t that will cut up the credit cards and balance the budget, not one that just continues to raise the credit limit.
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
July 29th, 2009
12:34 pm
You can’t forget that democrats are some low, power hungry mf’s, when they see Obozo dragging down their whole filthy house of cards, loyalty is going to extinct.
I can’t wait to see this coming debacle.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
July 29th, 2009
12:50 pm
Well, I see this Obama keeps going down and down in the polls. I sure wish we had somebody that could run against him. Sarah, much as I love her, couldn’t get elected Class Treasurer right now. And nobody down here is going to vote for a heathen Mormon like Romney. Everybody down here would vote for the Rev. Huckabee but nobody else in the whole country would. And then the man that might could of been our best hope left his fambly and state and went off to Argentina to be with his mistress. And if old Newt decided to run they’d be bringing up them divorce papers he served on his wife that was in the hospitle with cancer and then later was sleeping with a woman while he was married and trying to get Clinton impeached over that intern.
So there’s the problem. Right there we got the White House just about wide open and ready for us to take but we got nobody that can take it. Heck, I might have to open the Redneck Convert for President campaign again just to give us a chance. I know I could get more votes than any of the “name” Republicans that might decide to run. Have a good p.m. everybody.
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
1:01 pm
md
July 29th, 2009
12:22 pm
Stay tuned. It will happen next year. The spending cuts will be hard to swallow for many.
Doggone/GA
July 29th, 2009
1:01 pm
“I know I could get more votes than any of the “name” Republicans that might decide to run”
Hey, what the heck. Jimmy Carter did it!
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
1:02 pm
I Report
You Whine
July 29th, 2009
12:34 pm
Don’t get too wound up.
md
July 29th, 2009
1:10 pm
“WASHINGTON (AP) — The Government Accountability Office on Tuesday added the Postal Service to its list of high-risk federal agencies in need of change.
The post office has been struggling with a sharp decline in mail volume as people and businesses switch to e-mail both for personal contact and bill paying. The agency is facing a nearly $7 billion potential loss this fiscal year despite a 2-cent increase in the price of stamps in May, and cuts in staff.
“There are serious and significant structural financial challenges currently facing the Postal Service,” the GAO said.”
Postal service, Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, public education………………..and now the buffoons want to add healthcare on top of programs they already have problems with.
Is it just me, or does anybody else see a problem with this picture.
I Report (-: You Whine )-:
July 29th, 2009
1:18 pm
We could run Bob Dull and wipe Obozo out.
mm
July 29th, 2009
1:30 pm
Whiner,
As usual, in your dreams. The party that’s crashing is the one you support. You know, the one that doesn’t care about the health of Americans. The one that doesn’t care about the environment. The one that tried to block help for the unemployed. The one that tried to cut funds for education. The one that brought California to it’s knees. I could do this all day.
i’m still waiting on the “revolution”.
md
July 29th, 2009
1:34 pm
“The one that brought California to it’s knees”
May want to study up on that one a little more so as to not look so silly.
I Report (-: You Whine )-:
July 29th, 2009
1:35 pm
mmoron- When you liberals were nothing but obscure diaper filling moonbats splashing around in the fever swamps, making Mount Whine out of every Bush molehill, you could lie to the American people what smart and wonderful people you were.
But now that you have been flushed out into the open and forced to act like adults, the American people are saying eewww, what dummies.
Back to the fever swamps with you.
I Report (-: You Whine )-:
July 29th, 2009
1:39 pm
Bruno sees the opening, “she” has more kampaign staff and money on hand then do all the rest of the democrat Senators combined.
Is she a dummy too?
Gandalf of Gwinnesia
July 29th, 2009
1:40 pm
Guess What?
Gandalf of Gwinnesia
July 29th, 2009
1:42 pm
NYC is sending us thier Homeless! Just like New Orleans did! Damn, why can’t they go to Seatle! COST OF LIVIN’ IN A LIBERAL CITY I RECKON!
I Report (-: You Whine )-:
July 29th, 2009
1:45 pm
Those are the chief findings of the latest NPR poll of 850 registered voters conducted nationwide Wednesday through Sunday by a bipartisan team. The pollsters found 53 percent approving of the president’s handling of his job, while 42 percent disapproved — the narrowest gap of the Obama presidency to date. Most of the approving group said they approved strongly, and an even greater majority of the disapproving group said they disapproved strongly.-National Pinko Radio
If you’ve lost NPR, you’ve lost the moonbats, ahahahahaha.
I Report (-: You Whine )-:
July 29th, 2009
1:46 pm
Hey, what happened to the closer?
N ational P inko R adio
mm
July 29th, 2009
1:52 pm
Whiner,
Wrong again. The only people complaining are the republicans and their dimwit uneducated supporters, and they don’t act like Americans. The only Dem supporters I’ve seen complaining are the ones that are mad because the dems have not shoved healthcare straight up the GOP @sses.
md,
I don’t expect a wingnut to own up to a mistake. It’s bad enough the GOP destroyed our economy, but their tax cuts have crippled our state and local governments as well. But you’ll never see REAL news on Fox News so you wouldn’t understand.
md
July 29th, 2009
2:00 pm
“I don’t expect a wingnut to own up to a mistake. It’s bad enough the GOP destroyed our economy, but their tax cuts have crippled our state and local governments as well. But you’ll never see REAL news on Fox News so you wouldn’t understand.”
Put up or shut up. Post facts please. Show is all the the underlying facts of your assertions. Google is your friend. Per California, do you always read just the cover of the book? You sound like a good little parrott, towing the party line.
And do you always use the term “wingnut” for anybody that doesn’t agree with what you think? Thats so juvenile.
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
2:03 pm
By the way, it shore was nice of the Bushwhacker 2001 to look out fer the consumers with that Bankruptcy law stuff that he signed off on. Ifin you learn anything from a conservative republican it should be to never turn yore back on one of them. 2005 Bankruptcy Law Changes Causing Subprime Loan Scandal
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
2:08 pm
I heer that republican gubernator out in californa is showing everyone what for. He don pulled the plug on helpin them poor youngens in his state that cant take keer of themselves even though they has done popped out of their mommies and should be able to by now. And that is jest fer starters. Ifin I was him, I would go ahead and open all the jail cells up too and send all the police and farmen home since they is jest too spensive to upkeep. Then, they could git rid of their real teachers too like we done here in georgia.
Normal
July 29th, 2009
2:35 pm
A bit of history trivia here…Y’all know where the term “Lobbyist” came from. U. S. Grant, when he was the President, used to like to sit in a hotel lobby and relax(can’t remember the name of the hotel), but people would come up to him and push their special interest and became known as lobbyists. Strange that one of the most corrupt administrations in our history would start what has become a bane on our government…did I mention Grant was a Republican?
Normal
July 29th, 2009
2:38 pm
The Willard Hotel…
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
2:40 pm
Arizona lawmakers, desperate for cash, are considering selling the House and Senate buildings, then leasing them back over several years before assuming ownership again. Dozens of other state buildings may also be sold off and leased back as the state grapples with a huge budget deficit. Under the complex financial arrangement, state government services would continue without interruption while the state picks up a cash infusion estimated at $735 million. For investors, the deal means long-term lease payments from a stable source.
The state’s budget shortfall is projected at around $3.4 billion.
If they would jest try to live within their means they would not be so bad off.
md
July 29th, 2009
2:48 pm
“But you’ll never see REAL news on Fox News so you wouldn’t understand.””
This is also where you are wrong. Unlike yourself, I prefer to watch all the channels so as to make the best decision possible as to what to believe and what not to believe. One can not make an informed decision leaving out variables. You do yourself an injustice by only watching those channels you agree with. Sitting in your chair nodding your head in agreement is hardly the way to keep an open mind.
mm
July 29th, 2009
2:56 pm
Wow, your very own Tom Price will be introducing a health care reform bill tomorrow.
“According to the summary, the bill aims to make health care accessible to all Americans by creating tax incentives for consumers to purchase insurance on the individual market, encouraging states to assist consumers with pre-existing conditions, and promoting the employer-based insurance system that is popular with many Americans.”
“Instead of focusing on regulating private insurers, the plan would in fact give them more freedom to work across state lines.”
So lets see, another TAX CUT by a republican. This one will cut government revenues and give the money to insuance companies. Wow, an annual $1000 dollar tax cut to pay for an $800 a month insurance premium. And deregulating the insurances companies.
No telling what else is in this POS bill. Is there nothing a wingnut thinks a tax cut won’t cure?
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
2:57 pm
We all knows that dinosaurs roamed the earth a thousand years or so ago. and whatever Hannety says has to be the gospel truth cause he would never let his outwardly bigoted and jest plane mean and nasty thoughts toward Obama influence his journalistic integrety and the same goes for Huckebe and for Rush and one day maybe even for Sarah ifin she ever gits a time slot on the radio or on fox, the only channel for truth in the news channel. Every other channel is jest piled knee deep in them other people that dont know the truth bout nothin.
Kamchak
July 29th, 2009
3:05 pm
Normal
Yes, lobbyist have a bad rep, but I believe they can serve those with no access to elected officials. When the Supreme Court ruled that money equals free speech was when lobbyists began to run this country.
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
3:07 pm
Is there nothing a wingnut thinks a tax cut won’t cure?
Nope. Why, they claim to not even need Viagra ifin they git a big enough tax cut. And, even better, they claim that the effects never wear off for them. Their swelled heads jest stay that way permanently or until they catch wind of another tax that they did not git rid of.
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
3:12 pm
I wants to know why cant we jest elect businesses to govment and cut out the middle man. Exxon could be the ’senator’ for texas, georgia power for georgia and so on. That way everyone saves. The big businesses would not need lobbyists no more and they would not need to give money to themselves to run campains since they would all ready be the govment. They could even git rid of elections since they would not serve no porpoise no more. Come to think of it, we don’t need no steenking govment.
AmVet
July 29th, 2009
3:17 pm
Kamchak, yes the issue of lobbyists is a touchy one.
In theory they serve a good purpose. But in reality they are out of control and have undue power (via boatloads of dirty money and influence peddling).
The number of registered lobbyists in Washington has more than doubled since 2000 to more than 34,750!
The lobbying boom has been caused by three factors, experts say: rapid growth in government, Republican control of both the White House and Congress, and wide acceptance among corporations that they need to hire professional lobbyists to secure their share of federal benefits.
“There’s unlimited business out there for us,” said Robert L. Livingston, a Republican former chairman of the House Appropriations Committee and now president of a thriving six-year-old lobbying firm. “Companies need lobbying help.”
Lobbying firms can’t hire people fast enough. Starting salaries have risen to about $300,000 a year for the best-connected aides eager to “move downtown” from Capitol Hill or the Bush administration. Once considered a distasteful post-government vocation, big-bucks lobbying is luring nearly half of all lawmakers who return to the private sector when they leave Congress, according to a forthcoming study by Public Citizen’s Congress Watch.
But the worst aspect is that this nation is now a government of the General Motors, by the General Dynamics and for the General Electrics…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/21/AR2005062101632.html
Finn McCool
July 29th, 2009
3:18 pm
md wrote: The Government Accountability Office on Tuesday added the Postal Service to its list of high-risk federal agencies in need of change.
The post office has been struggling with a sharp decline in mail volume as people and businesses switch to e-mail both for personal contact and bill paying. The agency is facing a nearly $7 billion potential loss this fiscal year despite a 2-cent increase in the price of stamps in May, and cuts in staff.
The GAO should be applauded here – this is a prime opportunity to cut a dying beast. They should cut the number of delivery days to 4 and consolidate facilities. I am just flabergasted when I see spaning new usps facilies springing up all the time.
Maybe they could switch the Passport photo/application process to the police stations or fire stations.
The only thng I use mail for is Netflix and packages I don’t need right away…and some bills.
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
3:30 pm
I Report (-: You Whine )-:
July 29th, 2009
1:18 pm
You wish! Form a true conservative party.
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
3:32 pm
md
July 29th, 2009
1:34 pm
A president and a governor, what else do you need? Oh, I forgot, they don’t do that “vision thing.”
@@
July 29th, 2009
3:33 pm
I find it interesting that USinUK(cough) measures infant mortality in inches.
If a baby is born breathing and then dies within 24 to 48 hours, they’re not counted as mortals in many European countries. They’re mythical in U.K.’s world. Americans will always count babies as worthwhile — some of us will anyway.
On the economy? You’re entitled to all the confidence you can muster but not many Americans are sharing in it.
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
3:34 pm
I Report (-: You Whine )-:
July 29th, 2009
1:35 pm
Hell, the first inning isn’t even over yet. Our rookie could end up MVP.
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
3:37 pm
Gandalf of Gwinnesia
July 29th, 2009
1:42 pm
Welcome South Brother!
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
3:41 pm
mm
July 29th, 2009
1:52 pm
As much as government revenues have dropped, I’m thinking there is an increase in noncompliance. Wonder how many “businesses” are behind on forwarding their payroll deductions to the IRS and can’t get loans to make payroll?
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
3:42 pm
I Report (-: You Whine )-:
July 29th, 2009
1:45 pm
Polls for trolls! Irrelevant.
AmVet
July 29th, 2009
3:46 pm
TnGelding at 3:30,
A true conservative-based party would likely have NONE of these modern day Republiconned in it. As soon as they heard there’s no Jesus in government, they’d say no thanks…
And Bob Dole? At least he was a GOPer with some freaking guts! One of the last of the Republicans who was not yellow to the core ala Bush, Cheney, Saxby ad nauseum…
As for besting the mulatto, how could he do it when RINO McCain, 9/11 Rudy, Flip flopping Lurch, Flat-earth Sam, Large & Lazy Fred, Huckleberry, Duncan “Nuke ‘em” Hunter and Tom “Who?” Tancredo couldn’t?
A laughable and sorry lot.
But gawd, last year was a lot of fun! Watching those buffoons implode on the national stage and the ensuing teeth gnashing by the idiotic talking heads and their faithful followers was and still is, outstanding entertainment…
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
3:47 pm
md
July 29th, 2009
2:48 pm
I’ve found the difference to be in what “news” they emphasize. Of course the talk shows are totally biased.
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
3:48 pm
Wow This talk about The Family is some really sicko whackjob nutcase preverted stuff. These folks say they operate like the mafia and that they want the world to be run by folks like Osama bin Laden and Hitler and some feller named Inhofe from Oklahoma is one of them. Yuk.
md
July 29th, 2009
3:51 pm
tn,
“A president and a governor, what else do you need? Oh, I forgot, they don’t do that “vision thing.””
May want to include the rest of the gov’t. CA has been traditionally democratic for many years. But for many here, its much easier to ignore the involvement of both parties in order to push forth an agenda. The gop was the head of the snake, but there were many others (read dems) that made up the body.
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
4:06 pm
mm
July 29th, 2009
2:56 pm
Take a look at the direct subsidies for Medicare Part C if you want to get really riled up.
“Medicare Advantage plans wrap physician and hospital services in one, often with vision and drug coverage. Unlike traditional Medicare, the government doesn’t pay physicians and hospitals directly but instead pays insurers to manage care. Currently, though, a patient in these plans costs the government an average of 14% more than if he or she stayed in traditional Medicare.”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123905667327594685.html
(When an increase is a cut. Can’t find any actual dollar figures.)
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
4:12 pm
Finn McCool
July 29th, 2009
3:18 pm
Passport service is available elsewhere now. If you do use the USPS, be sure and take your own photo!
http://travel.state.gov/passport/passport_1738.html
@@
July 29th, 2009
4:14 pm
AmVet:
Just to prove how much I care….pick any one of your posts and I’ll continue to run it while you’re on vacation. I can change the wording just a tad so’s nobody’ll know you’re gone.
I’ll be your proxy poster. The post you choose cannot, however, be directed an any particular blogger. One of your many generics will do.
GreenJeans
July 29th, 2009
4:14 pm
Ten pages, and Tokyo Rose bleating on every one of ‘em.
getalife
July 29th, 2009
4:17 pm
Dowd praises Hillary and bashes Sarah:
” The woman who was prematurely counted in is out. And the woman who was prematurely counted out is in.
Goodbye, Sarah. Hello, Hillary.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/29/opinion/29dowd.html
AmVet
July 29th, 2009
4:17 pm
Was that a cow baying in a distant pasture at 4:14?
If it is injured someone probably needs to shoot the old girl and put her out of her obvious misery!
Dusty
July 29th, 2009
4:21 pm
This blog is amazing. I mean there are people here who neither, eat, sleep or ….well…depart from this place. What a life! 100% of the time blogging! A mind shriveling approach to finality!
The most realistic plain spoken and irritating (to some) blogger here is “I report (You whine)” He is so factual, his posts hit liberals right on their weak wanderings which irritates them no end. The truth hurts so he uses it!
The most boring blogger is the copycat RedNeck with an ID he calls “We don’t need no steenking gov’t”. He spouts what northerners think is Southern conversation. Just skip over his trash. Don’t waste your time on waste..
I commend @@ for her knowledge of national and international affairs. She tries to bring some rational info to the mudslinging here. She is one California girl I say welcome to southern status anytime. She’s a winner (and can even “can” peaches and peas!)
Then there is Bosch, an original with a fresh approach. Sorry about his oak tree. My son went through that recently, only a pine tree hit his home. And pine not even good for firewood!
So carry on…the good, the bad, the ugly! Bookman shall return! Journalists never die. They just fish away. (But he will be proud of his long lost liberal loonies whose only home is this blog.)
@@
July 29th, 2009
4:22 pm
…and here I was trying to be nice.
Thppbbtttt.
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
4:26 pm
md
July 29th, 2009
3:51 pm
Yeah, I’m aware of the Democrats controlling the legislature. Did the decline start with Reagan? I’m thinking and hoping y’all will come back stronger and better. I was surprised that Arnold was elected.
http://gov.ca.gov/about/arnold
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
July 29th, 2009
4:32 pm
Well, you can tell Sister Dusty I ain’t We Don’t Need No Steenking Govt. Don’t know who that guy is, but looks like he writes pretty good–just too often. Otherwise, Sister Dusty has hurt me real deep and I don’t think I’ll be including her in my prayers at the trailer tonight. Have a good night everybody.
TnGelding
July 29th, 2009
4:34 pm
Dusty
July 29th, 2009
4:21 pm
Does the term “multi-tasking” mean anything to you?
“House Democrats reach healthcare deal”
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Democratic leaders in the U.S. House of Representatives reached a deal on Wednesday with a group of fiscal conservatives in their own party on healthcare legislation in a significant step forward for the bill.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090729/pl_nm/us_usa_healthcare_17
Curious Observer
July 29th, 2009
4:36 pm
I commend @@ for her knowledge of national and international affairs.
Two Scarletts–one for Clayton and one for DeKalb. Any volunteers to assume the roles for Fulton, Cobb, and Gwinnett?
@@
July 29th, 2009
4:50 pm
Curious:
I’m probably among a handful of people who has neither watched, nor read Gone With the Wind.
Would you like to enlighten me?
Aside from being the main character (or so I’ve heard) she was….?
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
4:50 pm
I is hear on a two-folded mission. I wants to see what number comes after 999 cause it is the invert of 666 and so it has special meaning to us Billy Grayham southerners. Then, I likes to jest spread the werd. Finally, I likes to show folks like Dusty and @@ that they aint the only comedy show in town although they are perty funny. It is that Gonedeaf the White or whatever he calls hisself that is most boring though. Dusty is jest plane wrong. He’s probly not even southern like that @@ aint.
Kamchak
July 29th, 2009
4:55 pm
“Aside from being the main character (or so I’ve heard) she was…?”
…a drama queen.
Hillbilly Deluxe
July 29th, 2009
4:57 pm
Kamchak writes When the Supreme Court ruled that money equals free speech was when lobbyists began to run this country.
You got a point there.
AmVet mentioned Bob Dole.
I’d recommend his book, “One Soldier’s Story”. There is very little political content in it, it’s mainly about his upbringing and his struggles to overcome his war wounds. He talks about how he and two fellow patients, Phil Hart and Daniel Inouye went on to serve in the Senate. He said that even though they had opposing political views there was always a bond between them.
Those guys were made of stern stuff.
@@
July 29th, 2009
4:59 pm
Kamchak:
In what way? Can you give me specifics.
You and Curious are the ones that keep bringing her up. Now I’m interested.
Bruno
July 29th, 2009
5:01 pm
Shouts out to Gale, Gandalf and USinUK from the former W2W blog. Have any of you heard from Mara?? I sure miss chatting with her.
I am tempted to join in the ObamaCare discussion, but I’m not sure my blood pressure can take it. Now that the Free Lunch crowd is in control, everything that has made the USA the greatest country on Earth is being systematically dismantled. 2010 can’t come soon enough for me…
I will say this, however: “Health”, “Health Care”, and “Health Insurance” are three distinct entities, none of which depends on the other. To wit, “Health” comes from within, and is generally a reflection of our lifestyles, and not the amount of “Health Care” ( i.e. drugs and surgery) one receives. As for “Health Insurance”, the biggest improvement we could make to our current “Health Care” delivery system would be the elimination of the third-party payor system altogether. If that happened, 99% of the fraud and waste would be eliminated overnight once consumers were back in control of their own spending.
The bottom line is that the only legitimate purpose for ANY type of “insurance” is to protect people from rare, catastrophic events. Once you start including routine expenses, such as routine doctors visits, it is no longer insurance.
For those of you here who don’t know me, I have been a health care provider for the past 23+ years and have also taken the Actuarial Exams. In addition, I am one of the “Uninsured Americans”–by choice. From what I have read, part of ObamaCare calls for the direct seizure of money from the bank accounts of those who choose not to participate in the scam known as “Health Insurance”. Heil Obama!
Hillbilly Deluxe
July 29th, 2009
5:04 pm
@@
I’ve both read Gone With The Wind and seen the movie. I’d recommend the book over the movie. It’s a pretty good story but it’s fiction. People forget that. There’s tons of historical inaccuracies in it. Taken as a story it’s pretty good. Scarlett was the main character in the book but I found her younger sister Caroline to be far more interesting. (Her role was cut way down in the movie, to barely being there.) I also found the music in the movie to be way overblown but that may have been the movie making style of the time.
And by the way the famous line in the book and movie are different. The movie, “Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn”. The book, “My dear, I don’t give a damn”.
@@
July 29th, 2009
5:09 pm
Is it true the blue dogs have surrendered to the non-profit cooperatives? It’s what…$100.00 a year buys up to $3,000 in healthcare. Can I assume that $300.00 a year buys up to $9,000.00 in healthcare…
and so on?
Dusty
July 29th, 2009
5:16 pm
Dear @@,
I’m sorry you have not read Gone With the WInd. It is one exciting book. Margaret Mitchell won a Pulitzer Prize for it in 1937. It had taken her ten years to write it. Over 30 million copies have been sold at last count. Anyway, Scarlett was one beautiful, hardheaded determined Southern plantation “belle’ of Irish heritage who was never dull in any way. When Civil War hard times hit, she just fought harder for what she wanted. She succeeded in some ways and lost in others. The movie was as good as the book with Clark Gable and Vivian Leigh at their best. Classic entertainment.
Dusty
July 29th, 2009
5:23 pm
HillBilly Deluxe,
I did not see your review until after I had posted mine. That was a book and movie I really enjoyed. Haven’t come across anything as entertaining as GWTW in a long time.
@@
July 29th, 2009
5:26 pm
Hillbilly:
The book I can do. I have yet to go to watch a two-hour movie all the way through. Either I can’t sit still long enough or I fall asleep. My husband told me that GWTW was four hours!!??!!
Was Caroline a drama queen too?
@@
July 29th, 2009
5:28 pm
Too many words in that first sentence.
Kamchak? Curious Observer?
Are you two talking about something of which you know not?
I can’t wait forever.
We Don't Need No Steenking Government
July 29th, 2009
5:30 pm
Well, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn is the only proper book to read ifin you want a true accounting of southern life. And, they made that into a mighty fine movie too. Didn’t whitewash it a bit neither.
GreenJeans
July 29th, 2009
5:30 pm
“Aside from being the main character (or so I’ve heard) she was….?”
Not a great beauty. Practical-smart, but education-limited. Focused, to a fault – loses the big picture and real happiness to fruitless pursuits. Immature. Selfish. Stubborn. Short-sighted. A gritty survivor. Mostly unhappy. A pr!cktease. A user. A liar. A lover, a hater, the center of her own universe.
She do not like the radish anymore; she do like the brandy, another woman’s man, and Mama’s earbobs.
@@
July 29th, 2009
5:32 pm
I like the book’s version better.
“My dear, I don’t give a damn”.
That’s ^^^ pretty damned frank without the -ly-.
Kamchak
July 29th, 2009
5:38 pm
GreenJeans
Spot on!