A little bit of truth-telling from inside Washington

Conor Friedersdorf, a young conservative writer of considerable talent, posts from Washington on The Atlantic’s blog and commits the serious sin of candid truth-telling:

…. There is this idea among movement conservatives—especially the rank-and-file—that Washington DC journalism is populated by a lot of disingenuous, careerist sellouts. These elites write to enrich themselves, to inflate their sense of self-importance, and to garner social capital, invariably measured by invitations to the dread “Georgetown cocktail party.” Thus they are unconcerned with truth, intellectual honesty, or the actual interests of anyone outside the New York to DC corridor.

This narrative is largely true! Anyone who pays close attention to DC journalism can easily spot intellectually dishonest hacks writing stuff they don’t actually believe, whether to advance their careers or to further a political agenda by the most cynical means imaginable. A blogger could write five posts a day fisking political journalism that is either astonishingly ignorant or disingenuous – and a Washington DC journalist doesn’t have to attend very many happy hours to hear people basically admit that they are hacks who don’t actually believe significant parts of their oeuvres.

What vexes me, having observed this game over the last couple years, is that the people accused of being inside-the-beltway sellouts are often the folks who write exactly what they believe; whereas the kinds of publications that rank-and-file conservatives revere for “never selling out” actually do so all the time….

Though I don’t plan to make my life in Washington DC, I wish the right-leaning critics of its journalistic culture would come visit before I leave, make themselves flies on the walls at various social gatherings, and observe who it really is that stays true to themselves in their writing — and who views their work as a political writer in the most cynical, careerist terms imaginable. They’d realize that they’ve got everything exactly right, and exactly backward, at the same time. It is merely another example of a need for the right to better identify its elites, and demand better ones.

I’d agree with all that, but with one important caveat. A lot of people on the left look at the Washington media establishment in much the same way, and they too are correct.

The days since 9/11 have taught me a lot about our country, about people in general and about my business, not all of it good. But the sycophantic and even cowardly behavior of media bigwigs in Washington during the run-up to the Iraq war and in the early years of the occupation appalled me. A lot of those people knew better and pretended otherwise in order to keep their place in the Washington pecking order, and their silence harmed this country.

Yes, it still leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.

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Ild-way Ill-bay Iltner-hay

July 23rd, 2009
10:14 am

Speaking of disingenuous liars, the NY Times has a great fact check on Obumbler’s forked tongue last night. THE NY TIMES IS CALLING OBUMBLER A LIAR OVER HEALTHCARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jay, why don’t you write about that, rather than the thoughts of an inconsequential blogger. The chickens be coming home to roost on Obumbler. BTW, his comments about the Cambridge Police were enough to make all decent folk puke. Highly reminiscent of the way Murtha, without direct knowledge of the facts, defamed our warrior angels at Haditha – shameful comments from two shameless men.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/23/health/policy/23facts.html?hp

Palin/Jindahl 2012 – America’s last best hope.

Bosch

July 23rd, 2009
10:15 am

Kamchak,

You beat me to the punch. My boys were psyched about seeing Ronaldinho. Score was 2-0 Club America? My middle son was yammering away so much when he got home, which is very rare.

AmVet

July 23rd, 2009
10:17 am

From downstairs:

Normal, yes my VA experiences have been amazingly excellent. FAR exceeding the care I EVER got from disinterested doctor’s offices that theated my schedule like a nuisance. I am so glad I can now tell those guys where to stuff their over-priced bills and mediocre care.

And I agree, for people in rural areas, etc. getting to their nearest VAH is a drag and they should be better compensated.

Mrs. G, So the Gwinnett lout (NO, not you DB!) thinks people bringing body counts from that botched debacle in the sand is un-patriotic? Yet gives a complete pass to the earlier post (“Georgia guardsman dies in Afghanistan” We must prosecute Obama for this un-just war and murder!)

His filthy hypocrisy and childish worldview is so transparent as to be both laughable and sickening. But for most here, this is NOT news.

My motives for keeping tack of each and every one of those Americans killed needlessly over there were to express my outrage and heart break for them and their families.

Many, many veterans of previous conflicts feel exactly the same way.

And I will turn it right around and contend that this never-served, never-will chickenhawk has no comprehension of the word compassion, because his motivation is simply to suck up to the head fear-monger and chest-pounder, George of the Bungle and by proxy the imploding GOP, first last and always.

But I’m fairly convinced there is nothing wrong with him that a good old-fashioned a__kicking up and the down the street a few times wouldn’t fix…

wbk

July 23rd, 2009
10:17 am

Finn McCool

July 23rd, 2009
9:13 am
Do you worry over Nuclear destruction too? Global warming? Too much CO2? The destruction of the world DEC 2012? Do your worry over catching the H1N1 virus, aids, or the black plague? Can you control these things to make a difference? Is it just ideology you want to impose on everyone?

I am just worried over keeping my job and putting food on the table. I guess we live in different worlds.

wbk

July 23rd, 2009
10:20 am

AMvet:

I am so sorry we did not serve together! I would have changed your attitude.

getalife

July 23rd, 2009
10:20 am

Elections have consequences cons and the President will get his top priorities of health care and energy bills passed.

It’s his second term you should worry about.

AmVet

July 23rd, 2009
10:20 am

The modern MSM will almost never cover anything but what sells best – scandals (thank gawd for the new GOP!), salaciousness and war-mongering.

BTW, the AJC’s server this morning make this blog reminiscent of trying to run Vista on some underpowered POS Dell…

Paul

July 23rd, 2009
10:21 am

Report/Whine

How about going for ‘inner beauty’?

Bosch USinUK

Green is great! Expecially if you add some crushed pineapple and cottage cheese while it’s setting.

Saw on FoodTV – Unwrapped – that Jell-O is like, the state dessert in Utah? See, Bosch? Ecumenicalism with Episcopalopians and Mormons!

Carter is a Fool

July 23rd, 2009
10:21 am

None of them tell the truth in Washington. They tell you only what they think that you want to hear. They puff up like bull frogs and emit hot air. They do not even read what they vote on.

Term limits are needed and fire them all. What is the opposite of Progress — Congress.

Kamchak

July 23rd, 2009
10:22 am

2-1 Club America. CA scored first, Inzaghi equalised, CA scored again. Ronaldinho had 3 or 4 freekicks within his range—one hit the crossbar—–sigh…..

AmVet

July 23rd, 2009
10:23 am

No willie, you would have TRIED and died…

Trust me

July 23rd, 2009
10:27 am

What was the stupid reporter thinking when he wasted his chance to ask the President about something, Oh, let’s say, presidential. What was the president supposed to say. If he did not need to be so politically correct, he might have said, “You dumb a$$, can’t you think of a more important topic to ask a question about. How about my birth certificate, for example.”

USinUK

July 23rd, 2009
10:27 am

Paul –

“Green is great! Expecially if you add some crushed pineapple and cottage cheese while it’s setting. ”

my mom used to add cool-whip and pineapple … and it was known as Green Stuff

DB, Gwinnettian

July 23rd, 2009
10:28 am

I think, if I’m reading this right, that there’s a difference between calling the person a ‘racist’ and saying a person targets people because of race is a bit of a distinction without much distinction.

Well there is a difference, yes. When we’re soooo sensitive about how minorities are supposed to couch their discussions, yes.

Consider that a respected judge with an outstanding record has explain to multiple Senators for a bit of flowery speech rhetoric. All because she hoped she, and people from similar backgrounds, could render better decisions than their white counterpart.

Years ago we heralded such strivers; now, they’re “racists.”

(Not saying it doesn’t work both ways–Newt certainly had some ’splainin’ to do when he used that particular word to describe Sotomayor, of course.)

josef nix

July 23rd, 2009
10:28 am

USinUK–my vote’s with you on green jell-o!
Bosch–glad to see you here!

BS/BA, MS/MA, PhD–these are fine, but speak to schooling, not education. The best teachers I ever had were those with the BA/BS from State Normal who spent their time in the classroom teaching. I recall what my mom told my 4th grade teacher who went off on what pieces of paper she had, “granted you may all there is to know about “teaching,” the problem is you don’t know anything to teach.”

Normal

July 23rd, 2009
10:30 am

What label is correctly applied to the Democrats who oppose the Healthcare Bill(s)? The Cap and Trade Bill?
————
Thinkers?

USinUK

July 23rd, 2009
10:31 am

AmVet –

“BTW, the AJC’s server this morning make this blog reminiscent of trying to run Vista on some underpowered POS Dell…”

thanks for that – I thought it was just me … (my computer has been constipated all day)

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

July 23rd, 2009
10:32 am

PRINCETON, NJ — Fueled by the sentiments of Republicans and independents, a new USA Today/Gallup poll shows that 59% of Americans say President Obama’s proposals to address the major problems facing the country call for too much government spending, and 52% say Obama’s proposals call for too much expansion of government power.

Hardee, har, har, even the fake polls are against Obozo and his wanton and capricious destruction of the United States economy.

bwa ha ha.

Bosch

July 23rd, 2009
10:33 am

Kamchak,

I just got the run down again from my son. Sigh indeed. I’m glad it was a good game though.

Paul, joseph, and USinUK,

Can’t have red or orange today. But in my house, growing up, the jello/fruit/coolwhip combo was known as “red business.”

AmVet

July 23rd, 2009
10:35 am

I have read nothing about it but I see where the Uppity Muslim Sans Birth Certificate has commented on some Harvard Homie being arrested.

Uh oh! Stirring the racial waters this early in his administration does not bode well. Please don’t ell me he may need to find Bill Frist to make some long-distance diagnoses in the future…

Bosch

July 23rd, 2009
10:35 am

Yeah, the server is screwed today. I’ve been trying for about 30 minutes to tell Mrs. G. I was impressed with her Yoda impersonation at 9:56.

Normal

July 23rd, 2009
10:37 am

Paul, joseph, and USinUK, Bosch,

Mom used to make this red, white , and blue combination jello and cottage cheese, cool whip stuff for the 4th of July…
We got yellow jello on Bastille Day…

Bosch

July 23rd, 2009
10:38 am

Paul and USinUK and joseph,

Now that I ponder my youth and the ‘red business’ – I’ve just realized that no one except my crazy uncle ever ate it. We only had it at Thanksgiving ’cause my grandma thought we all liked it, but only the uncle would divulge.

jimbob

July 23rd, 2009
10:39 am

Of course when they are writing Jewish conspiracy stories, rewriting Israeli history, and scapegoating Jewish ‘filth’ living in Jerusalem as the reason for no world peace, then it’s all true of course.

USinUK

July 23rd, 2009
10:40 am

yellow jello???

that’s just wrong on too many levels.

Bosch

July 23rd, 2009
10:41 am

Normal,

Why yellow on Bastille Day?

Redneck Convert

July 23rd, 2009
10:41 am

Well, good thing I’m dyslexic like the Drs. say. I might never of knowed Wyld Bill Hyltner was back with us. I reckon @@ never e-mailed him so he come back here.

Tell this Bosch the jello ain’t nothing but powdered pig bones. That’ll make him gobble it up. He needs his strength for when they ram that long tube up his hind end.

Have a good one everybody.

AmVet

July 23rd, 2009
10:43 am

OK, duty calls, off to the airport.

But don’t ever forget this gem from Monty Python:

DENNIS:
Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no
basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power
derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical
aquatic ceremony.
ARTHUR:
Be quiet!
DENNIS:
Well, but you can’t expect to wield supreme executive power
just ’cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!
ARTHUR:
Shut up!
DENNIS:
I mean, if I went ’round saying I was an emperor just because
some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they’d put me
away!
ARTHUR:
Shut up, will you? Shut up!
DENNIS:
Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system.
ARTHUR:
Shut up!
DENNIS:
Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help!
Help! I’m being repressed!

Bosch

July 23rd, 2009
10:44 am

Redneck,

I thought it was dried horse hooves.

josef nix

July 23rd, 2009
10:44 am

jimbob–and i wish they’d tell me where this International Zionist Conspiracy of Jewish Bankers is meeting. I want to get in line for my Chosen share. Got my copy of “Protocols of the Elders of Zion.”

booger

July 23rd, 2009
10:44 am

IId-way@ 10:14

Great article. Can’t believe the “Times” ran it. Don’t expect it to be discussed here though. Only anti conservative topics need apply.

Have you read Kyle,s article today?

Mrs. Godzilla

July 23rd, 2009
10:45 am

AmVet

When the oppotunity arises I need to apologize to RB from Gwinnett
about my just knowing that he’s celebrating soldiers deaths in Afghanistan.

ANd of course for being too lazy to back it up…..

Bosch

July 23rd, 2009
10:45 am

Oh and Redneck,

Wyld Byll was writing in pig latin.

Normal

July 23rd, 2009
10:49 am

Dad was French, and Mom said yellow was a good color for him….

Chris Salzmann

July 23rd, 2009
10:52 am

Kyle’s “offending” quote:
But being 99 percent certain that existing plans would die wasn’t enough for Obama, Nancy Pelosi & Co. So they also inserted a clause requiring, after a grace period of five years, current insurance plans to meet the same government mandates of coverage for the new public option and any new private ones.

In other words, you can keep your plan, but only for five years. Then, by law, it must change to cover all the mandates dreamed up by the Health Choices commissioner and his merry band of advisory panels.

booger July 23rd, 2009 10:05 am SAID: I was pleased to see a little bit of truth telling in the AJC this morning. Kyle’s article on healthcare exposed the big Lie in the plan currently in congress. This program is designed to put private health insurance out of business. No Private insurance company can accept new people to their plan after the national option is introduced. Obama is complicit in this lie. When he says you can keep your current plan, he means only that plan. If you change jobs, you cannot join the plan of the new company, you must go with the national plan

CHRIS SAYS: Sorry but my reading of what he says above don’t see that. His conclusions in the 2nd paragraph also don’t make sense because like you, he thinks setting standards is a BAD thing.. Essentially, all private insurance plans will be required to meet a certain standard of care. After 5 years, a private insurance company would not be allowed to offer anyone coverage that doesn’t meet a minimum standard. These setting of standards is common with pharmaceuticals, vehicle safety and other consumer products and services including financial services. Why not health insurance? But then, any sort of regulation that tries to prevent consumers getting fleeced is contrary to the conservative idea of nirvana, i.e. the law of the jungle and the survival of the fittest.

Mrs. Godzilla

July 23rd, 2009
10:59 am

Bosch

compliment taken it was

USinUK

July 23rd, 2009
11:01 am

am still in the middle of reading the NYT critique of the speech … but THIS, I have to say, takes the biscuit:

“The president said that health insurance companies were making “record profits.” America’s Health Insurance Plans, the main lobby for insurers, contends that “for every $1 spent on health care in America, approximately one penny goes to health plans’ profits.””

I’m sorry. but that’s nuttin’ but a load of bollocks and spin. and spinny bollocks. and bollocky spin. Blue Cross, itself, says it’s profits are close to 8%.

Paul

July 23rd, 2009
11:02 am

DB, Gwinnettian 10:28

Thanks. That’s one reason I come here – to understand how other people see things.

Normal

Red white and blue for 4th of July? That sounds cool -

Just hope Gov Palin doesn’t fix it – appropriate use of our national colors and all that.

Bosch

I worked with a guy – was going in for a colonoscopy – had drunk liquid grape jello – then started the rounds of the stuff to clear his system… rushed to the ER. Thought he was hemorrhaging! I didn’t let him live it down for months….

AmVet

Scimitars? Monty Python’s a jihadist?!!?

Have a good trip -

RB from Gwinnett

July 23rd, 2009
11:05 am

G, you’ll find no apology from me on here. I stand by what I posted. You paraded KIA numbers on here like they were some campaign slogan without one bit of concern that they represent American soldiers or that in doing so you embolden the enemy they’re fighting.

The only apology due here is from you to our soldiers and to the families of those killed as a result of your actions.

Bosch

July 23rd, 2009
11:06 am

Mrs. G.,

You ARE the Jedi Master, and RB is a Sith – only speaks in absolutes.

Paul,

Ewwww. I’m seriously not looking forward to this afternoon. I think I might have time to read a couple of those books Debbie was talkin’ about yesterday!

Trust me

July 23rd, 2009
11:06 am

The Plum LineGreg Sargent’s blog
Leader Of GOP Health Care “Solutions Group” Says GOP Won’t Offer Health Care Bill

Well, Duh! They never had any plans to offer anything except whining and complaining and lies.

Bosch

July 23rd, 2009
11:08 am

Paul,

And liquid grape jello? Gross [as wave of nausea sweeps my stomach].

Turd Ferguson

July 23rd, 2009
11:09 am

Kyle…nice article and thanks for, as they say, “Keeping it real”.

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

July 23rd, 2009
11:09 am

N. Korea: Clinton ‘funny lady, by no means intelligent’-CNN

DB, Gwinnettian

July 23rd, 2009
11:11 am

I’m sorry. but that’s nuttin’ but a load of bollocks and spin. and spinny bollocks. and bollocky spin. Blue Cross, itself, says it’s profits are close to 8%.

Another meme alert–we’re getting the usual crap about “small” businesses (don’t you love how a company with 250 employees is “small?” but I digress) who’ll be taxed a teensy bit more, possibly, to pay for a portion of the costs incurred.

Setting aside the wisdom of keeping Republican tax brackets in place, here’s the terrible consequence as spun by The National Federation of Independent Businesses:

Taking more money from these business owners, who already face the prospect of higher income tax rates in 2011, means they will have less money to put back into their business, these groups contend.

Key word there being “will.” As in, these guys who own such businesses, sure, they could actually invest net profits into labor and capital now, but we have to ensure that they keep EVERY PENNY they’d had under Dear Leader-Preznit Bush because at some point in the future they’ll deign to hire someone.

And it’s always, always, expressed as if that is not the take-home income a business owner pays him/her self, but couched in language to make Joe the Stupid believe it’s off to top of gross income.

Jeez. Is our children learning?

Joey

July 23rd, 2009
11:11 am

Normal (10:30):
Thinkers. Very good.
Now a label for the Republicans who oppose the same healthcare Bill(s). And the same Cap and Trade Bill.

Normal

July 23rd, 2009
11:12 am

RB from Gwinnett

July 23rd, 2009
11:05 am

The only apology due here is from you to our soldiers and to the families of those killed as a result of your actions.

That remark should be directed to President Bush…

USinUK

July 23rd, 2009
11:14 am

“The only apology due here is from you to our soldiers and to the families of those killed as a result of your actions”

so, people posting the KIA numbers are responsible for others being killed? not, actually, you know, the people who SHOT them or planted the IEDs???

tenuous? oh, a tad.

and someone (looking at you, RB) needs to learn the difference between righteous anger at the numbers of men and women killed in a war of choice and “celebrating”. ya numpty.

Trust me

July 23rd, 2009
11:14 am

Mrs. G.,

You ARE the Jedi Master, and RB is a Sith

Truer words have not I seen. RB had definitely gone ‘dark’, given his comments. The force is truly with Mrs G., for she continues to repel the dark one.

Normal

July 23rd, 2009
11:16 am

Joey

July 23rd, 2009
11:11 am

Now a label for the Republicans who oppose the same healthcare Bill(s). And the same Cap and Trade Bill.
—————-
Right thinkers?

TnGelding

July 23rd, 2009
11:16 am

Normal

July 23rd, 2009
10:30 am

Make that independent thinkers.

Hey, Bastille Day is my birthday! The French sure covered our rears during our revolution, at much cost to them in blood and treasure that eventually led to that memorable day.

Bosch

July 23rd, 2009
11:19 am

USinUK,

“Ya numpty.” I would have used the word “git.” But that’s just me.

Trust me

July 23rd, 2009
11:24 am

…The North Korean foreign minister also added that Clinton is “by no means intelligent,” …

Of course, our resident propagandist, IR/YW, has chosen to submit those words out of context. Why do you hate the USofA so much, IR/YW?

USinUK

July 23rd, 2009
11:25 am

Bosch –

I’m a big fan of “plonker” …

MEANWHILE … I wonder what all the “Obama is destroying our economy!!!” idiots have to say about this:

U.S. stocks rose, sending the Dow Jones Industrial Average above 9,000 for the first time since January, as EBay Inc., Ford Motor Co. and AT&T Inc. posted better-than-estimated results and home resales increased more than forecast.

EBay rallied 7.5 percent as its earnings signaled consumers’ appetite for online commerce is starting to recover. Ford jumped 7.7 percent after topping analyst estimates by paring expenses and adding market share. AT&T added 1.6 percent as new customers of Apple Inc.’s iPhone bolstered profit. D.R. Horton Inc. led homebuilders higher after sales of existing homes increased for a third straight month.

We’re not out of the woods, yet … but we’re making progress …

Mrs. Godzilla

July 23rd, 2009
11:27 am

Expected

July 23rd, 2009
11:28 am

How’s this for a rush to judgement. Appears PresBO is not only judge and jury but seems we now see his Agenda….

President Barack Obama said Wednesday that police acted “stupidly” in the arrest of prominent black scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr.

USinUK

July 23rd, 2009
11:31 am

Expected – once the cops saw that it was his house, they should have apologized and left. arresting him WAS stupid.

Normal

July 23rd, 2009
11:32 am

TN GELDING: I know the French came to our assistance in the Revolution, but they took their time doing it…Not casting aspersions, but Mom said Dad was always surrendering, if he knew what was good for him…heh, heh

TnGelding

July 23rd, 2009
11:34 am

Refreshing, but it probably ended his budding career. David Brock finally ‘fessed up too.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-april-2-2002/david-brock

After DeMint’s comments last week are the vast-right-wing-conspirators back?

Stumbled across this:

“The Left is always arguing that there is a vast right-wing conspiracy in the media, and the Right feels it is a left-wing controlled media. Actually, they are both wrong. It’s a globalist controlled media that has long pandered to the Left, but has also learned to create a new false brand of Right (Fox News et al) who still promote the government agenda. There is no better evidence of this than the startling news that the Washington Post has fired one of its best liberal columnists, and covered up the real reason why.”

http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=2933

the evil rich

July 23rd, 2009
11:35 am

What an onymoron – “Truth” and “DC”

USinUK

July 23rd, 2009
11:35 am

Again – getting back to the asinine “health insurers only make 1% profit”, here’s a headline from Tuesday:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090721/ap_on_bi_ge/us_earns_unitedhealth_group

INDIANAPOLIS – UnitedHealth Group Inc. reported a soaring second-quarter profit Tuesday, but uncertainty surrounding the health care overhaul debate in Congress helped keep the managed care company’s shares grounded.

— snip —

UnitedHealth earned $859 million, or 73 cents per share, for the quarter that ended June 30. That’s up from $337 million, or 27 cents per share, a year earlier. Last year’s second-quarter results included settlements in two class action lawsuits.

Revenue rose to $21.66 billion from $20.27 billion on increased premiums, which grew partly due to price increases. UnitedHealth is the largest commercial health insurer based on revenue.

The company trumped Wall Street expectations for both revenue and profit. Analysts polled by Thomson Reuters forecast, on average, a profit of 70 cents per share on revenue of $21.77 billion.

getalife

July 23rd, 2009
11:35 am

Mr. Gates has seized the opportunity to try to stop racial profiling. His friend is the leader of the free world.

The police should apologize to end it.

Then we have Paul’s best friend, BO attacking a pow.

false news should apologize too.

Bosch

July 23rd, 2009
11:36 am

TNGelding,

Well, it certainly appears the right wing conspirators are back – after the past couple of days of having to watch these silly birthers rant making themselves look moronic.

josef nix

July 23rd, 2009
11:38 am

Lessee–La Fayette, nous sommes ici…

War of 1812 (or Napoleanic Wars, depending on which side of the pond you’re on…)
Franco Prussian War…had a hangover from Civil War, couldn’t make it
WW I
WW II
Vietnam

Seems we’ve paid that debt a few times over…

Why are there no fireworks at Euro Disney? The French keep surrendering…
Why are they planting Lindens along the Champs Elysees? So the Germans can march in the shade.

They do make a good wine, a decent cheese, excellent bread, write a superb novel, do a pretty good film now and then, paint some pretty pictures…

TnGelding

July 23rd, 2009
11:39 am

DeMint speech to Senate:

“In a speech on the Senate floor Monday, Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) voiced his opposition to President Obama’s planned government takeover of Americans’ health care. DeMint’s Health Care Freedom Plan provides Americans access to affordable, quality health care while reducing the number of uninsured Americans by over 22 million without any new cost to taxpayers. ”

http://demint.senate.gov/public/

Gandalf, the White! (Shiek Abooty)

July 23rd, 2009
11:40 am

“COPS ARE STUPID!” Barry Obama, last night… :roll: methinks Barry is the stupid one! Resist arrest, go to jail!

RealityKing

July 23rd, 2009
11:40 am

Journalists and educators have always narrow mindedly reported only what they believe as truth. The real difference lays in those controlling the media outlets and universities. Which can clearly be seen in the progressive down fall of the American family unit..

USinUK

July 23rd, 2009
11:40 am

jo nix –

you forgot the best one … did you hear about the new French navy? they have glass bottom boats! That way they can look at the old French navy.

RealityKing

July 23rd, 2009
11:43 am

I need only one rule of thumb for healthcare reform. What has this failed social engineering experiment we call government done better than the private sector??

Gandalf, the White! (The Grand Mufti of Gwinnesian!) Allah be Praised!

July 23rd, 2009
11:43 am

Barry is going to get rid of all stupid cops, I mean white cops.

Gandalf, the White! (The Grand Mufti of Gwinnesian!) Allah be Praised!

July 23rd, 2009
11:44 am

those racist pigs!

TnGelding

July 23rd, 2009
11:44 am

josef nix

July 23rd, 2009
11:38 am

As I’m sure you are more aware than I, they’ve acted many times since the end of WWII while we were still talking about it.

Turd Ferguson

July 23rd, 2009
11:44 am

The Nutty Professor was arrested for his antics and well shouldve been. Being a so-called “professor” I would expected much more civil behavior then again…consider the source…HA!

USinUK

July 23rd, 2009
11:44 am

GtG -

“Resist arrest, go to jail!”

um. I think that even you would resist arrest if the cops were accusing you of trying to break into your own home.

Normal

July 23rd, 2009
11:44 am

USinUk…That was priceless!!

Gandalf, the White! (The Grand Mufti of Gwinnesian!) Allah be Praised!

July 23rd, 2009
11:47 am

BARACK OBAMA! PUTTING THE Rx IN MARXISM!

Bosch

July 23rd, 2009
11:47 am

TNGelding,

There’s only one small problem with DeMint’s speech……Obama isn’t proposing for the government to take over healthcare. Seriously, don’t these GOPers read?

Gandalf, the White! (The Grand Mufti of Gwinnesian!) Allah be Praised!

July 23rd, 2009
11:47 am

No EXPAT! I was taught to respect the Police.

TnGelding

July 23rd, 2009
11:48 am

RealityKing

July 23rd, 2009
11:43 am

Provided health care for the elderly and lifted them out of poverty.

Matilda

July 23rd, 2009
11:48 am

Wake up, people. If you think we live in a “free” society” you’re deluding yourself. I have witnessed police removing a perfectly rational person from her own home, though she had committed NO crime, nor even been accused. All that’s required is somebody’s “word” that you’re a “threat.” That’s IT. Really. (BTW, if you’ve ever filled a prescription for an anti-depressant, you have no rights in the U.S.)

The facts don’t matter in the moment; your only recourse is hiring a laywer afterward. SO WHAT if Gates was irate and ranting about racial profiling? The man was IN HIS OWN HOME and had committed no crime. You can be arrested at any time with no reason and by the way, IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE ANGRY about something — anything, that’s usually reason enough. (Ask the people who were peacefully exercising their first amendment rights outside the RNC in ‘04.) But perhaps President Obama was wrong, and the police didn’t act “stupidly.” Perhaps “fascistly” would be a better adjective.

USinUK

July 23rd, 2009
11:48 am

“What has this failed social engineering experiment we call government done better than the private sector??”

build roads and create a national highway system.

monitor public health.

monitor international threats (and respond).

oversee interstate and international business.

guarantee the safety of our food, water and drugs (when it has been properly funded).

shall I go on ???

Gandalf, the White! (The Grand Mufti of Gwinnesian!) Allah be Praised!

July 23rd, 2009
11:49 am

Bosch, what do you call it? Read and learn about his plan….

TnGelding

July 23rd, 2009
11:50 am

Bosch

July 23rd, 2009
11:47 am

You don’t have to answer, but are you having night sweats? Diarrhea?

What time is your appointment today, or is it tomorrow?

Bosch

July 23rd, 2009
11:51 am

Gandalf,

I have. No where in the proposals I’ve read mentions a government run health care program.

Gandalf, the White! (The Grand Mufti of Gwinnesian!) Allah be Praised!

July 23rd, 2009
11:51 am

Facistly is exactly how Barry is acting! Taking over control, without owning industries. Such as the Health Care Industry, the Auto Industry, the Banking Industry. Look up that definition please.

USinUK

July 23rd, 2009
11:51 am

“I was taught to respect the Police.”

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, GtG … I’m sure you’d be OH-so-respectful if the gummint came into YOUR house and threatened you with arrest when THEY were the ones in the wrong.

josef nix

July 23rd, 2009
11:51 am

USinUK–that’s a good one, I’ll add it…

TnGelding–are you referring to Algeria? Lebanon? The Suez Crisis? Turned tail, ran and left a mess for somebody else to clean up…

Oh, and I forgot, Joyeux Cinco de Mayo, Max…we were tied up during that one, too…

And ‘fore anybody wants to give me flack, I’m froggy on tres costas as the Spanish gitanos say. Oh, yes, USinUK, one of my ancestors was the “father of the modern French navy,” and a man of impeccable taste made sure the ships were “attractive!”

Kamchak

July 23rd, 2009
11:51 am

“How’s this for a rush to judgement(sic). Appears PresBO is not only judge and jury but seems we now see his Agenda….

President Barack Obama said Wednesday that police acted ’stupidly’ in the arrest of prominent black scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr.”

The man was arrested on the property he was renting from the university AFTER showing his campus ID and driver’s license proving he was the resident at that address. “Acted ’stupidly’” is a gross understatement.

Trust me

July 23rd, 2009
11:54 am

Sir, just because your driver’s license lists this address as you current residence, that in no way proves that I am not entitled to arrest you for breaking and entering and that has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that you look different than me.

Well, that’s probably pretty close to the stupid one’s actual words. I know, the use of the word “Sir” is really pushing the envelope though.

TnGelding

July 23rd, 2009
11:54 am

Gandalf, the White! (The Grand Mufti of Gwinnesian!) Allah be Praised!

July 23rd, 2009
11:51 am

I repeat, it’s out of necessity and only temporary.

Why would a Muslim be taking the fight to al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan?

USinUK

July 23rd, 2009
11:54 am

jo nix –

“Oh, yes, USinUK, one of my ancestors was the “father of the modern French navy,” and a man of impeccable taste made sure the ships were “attractive!””

money well spent – who would want to cannon a nice-looking boat???

Huckabee The Next POTUS

July 23rd, 2009
11:55 am

The messiah idiot, obambam is just venting. He’s still upset that years ago the po- lice did nothing when he wanted mi- shell arrested for impersonating a woman.

USinUK

July 23rd, 2009
11:57 am

heading home … have a good evening!

Trust me

July 23rd, 2009
11:58 am

I heard that Huckabee had to PAC up it’s bags and vacate for lack of payment. The only thing left for him is conservative talk radio with those other losers and an occasional TV spot.

TnGelding

July 23rd, 2009
11:59 am

USinUK

July 23rd, 2009
11:57 am

You done good!

The markets are up.

Bosch

July 23rd, 2009
11:59 am

TNGelding,

Um, I’d really rather not go into details. But to answer your question, “no.” I’ll leave it at that. My “test” is tomorrow.

All,

Weren’t some of those policemen that arrested Gates black?

Gandalf, the White! (The Grand Mufti of Gwinnesian!) Allah be Praised!

July 23rd, 2009
12:00 pm

TnG I don’t know, do tell…

TnGelding

July 23rd, 2009
12:01 pm

Bosch

July 23rd, 2009
11:59 am

Ok, thanks. Have a good day. Good luck and best wishes for tomorrow. I hate all that poking and prodding, as necessary as it sometimes is.

Gandalf, the White! (The Grand Mufti of Gwinnesian!) Allah be Praised!

July 23rd, 2009
12:01 pm

Gates got mouthy, the Cop did his job. End of story. Oh, scumbag went to jail! End of Story! :roll: :evil:

pat

July 23rd, 2009
12:02 pm

Aren’t these nimrods supposed to print facts and not their opinion? He just verified the issue people complain about.