This birther nonsense becoming a big problem for the GOP

Here’s Mike Castle, a Republican congressman from Delaware, trying to deal with the birther nonsense at a town hall meeting back on June 30. It really gets a little spooky when the woman hijacks the meeting with an impromptu demand for the Pledge of Allegiance. It’s hard to imagine a more vivid example of how easily false patriotism can trump reason and common sense.

Apparently, CNN’s Lou Dobbs — always on the lookout these days for a fringe issue to ride — is also jumping on the bandwagon.

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Stan

July 21st, 2009
10:13 am

Annoying they are but really, there are nutjobs on the left, and as this proves, nutjobs on the right.

RB from Gwinnett

July 21st, 2009
10:18 am

“reason and common sense” Jay? It must sound reasonable to you that someone would go to the effort Barry has gone to to hide his birth certificate when they have nothing to hide.

Common sense would dictate you wouldn’t spend a dime hiding it if you didn’t have to or need to. So why is he?

El Jefe

July 21st, 2009
10:18 am

The part that really confuses me is that this should be a no brainer – Show the long form birth certificate and not the Certification of Live Birth that the President has presented.

mike

July 21st, 2009
10:20 am

Gee, kind of reminds me of the much, much larger “truther” movement who claimed that 9/11 was an inside job, although Jay never seemed to try to link it to Democrats, despite the fact that an elected Democrat, Cynthia McKinney, was one of them.

If the GOP is to be held accountable for “birthers, then the Dems can be held accountable for the “truthers”. Which group do you think is wackier?

Conservatism leads to Brain Damage

July 21st, 2009
10:21 am

An excellent example of the paranoia, narrow mindedness and brain damage inflicted on right wingers by Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingram and the like.

Copyleft

July 21st, 2009
10:24 am

Republican patriotism IS false patriotism. The two terms are equivalent.

By the way, Obama has released his birth certificate–the birther nuts simply refuse to accept it and keep insisting there’s a “secret LONG FORM” variant that’s being kept under lock and key.

Hint: There isn’t. The black guy won. Republicans lost. Get over it.

thomas

July 21st, 2009
10:29 am

copyleft, in the interest of fairness didn’t the half black, half white guy win?

BTW mighty narrow minded of you to think the only reason anyone would not approve of our President is the color of his skin, or that our president would want to be known as the “black guy”

And your trying to say others are nuts, fine but it seems like you view the world through racist lenses.

Lighten up everyone does not equate things in race.

josef nix

July 21st, 2009
10:32 am

Copyleft–So now you’ve become the arbiter of who is patriotic and who is not? That is fascism and, no, I’m NOT a Republican, but this type of vapid stone-casting is what is giving us liberals a bad name.

getalife

July 21st, 2009
10:32 am

Chris Salzmann

July 21st, 2009
10:33 am

Yeah, these “Birthers” are in the same category of those idiots who deny that the moon landings ever happened. Narrow minded paranoia is pretty common among the uneducated and uninformed. Isn’t there a statistic that says that the more educated you are, the more likely you are a democrat or vote democrat??? That should speak volumes.

Finn McCool

July 21st, 2009
10:34 am

First show us proof that W wasn’t a newt.

Paul

July 21st, 2009
10:37 am

Where’d she get a birth certificate with a seal on it? Mine has a walrus, way more cool –

Did you hear all the clapping during her speech? Wow….. contrasted with the expressions of the people at the table –

Some people just gotta have a cause….

and I’ve said before, what’s really scary?

They reproduce, and they vote…

josef nix

July 21st, 2009
10:42 am

PAUL–and mine has the egg man!

RW-(the original)

July 21st, 2009
10:42 am

Why is it that we get told over and over not to discuss the Kenyan’s President’s birth certificate here yet we get thread after thread devoted to the topic posted?

BD,

You’re asking someone to prove a negative. It really shouldn’t be too hard to release a birth certificate, although after a year of stonewalling nobody would believe it was real at this point.

Chris Salzmann

July 21st, 2009
10:42 am

My father was in the service and we moved around a lot. My parents lost my original certificate of live birth a long time ago during one of our moves. I also have an original copy of the short form. That make me less of an American? According to many of these idiots on the right-wing, yes. Ask them to show you the law that states that the short firm isn’t enough? There isn’t any. These people are full of you know what.

Normal

July 21st, 2009
10:43 am

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. You help me put Bush, Cheney, Rove, and Rice in jail where they belong and I’ll help you impeach President Obama, after all, fair is fair…

Turd Ferguson

July 21st, 2009
10:45 am

Good point Salzberger and I would imagine their is some truth to the education/democrat thing. Just seems the more educated one becomes the less that common sense enters into an equation. Suddenly all these far out ideas from the bleeding hearts become an “anything is possible” type scenrio ie, Al Goron and global warming, global cooling, oh wait, its now global climate change so any change might be termed as dour.

Turd Ferguson

July 21st, 2009
10:47 am

mmmm…I will stick with the devil I somewhat know, Obama. As he keeps us somewhat insulated from The Idiot, Joe Biden.

Soothsayer

July 21st, 2009
10:48 am

I’ve never been to a Brownshirt meeting in the ’30s, but SURELY it must resemble that video. Now they just have to wait for nightfall . . .

Chris Salzmann

July 21st, 2009
10:49 am

Turd Ferguson July 21st, 2009 10:45 am SAID: Good point Salzberger and I would imagine their is some truth to the education/democrat thing. Just seems the more educated one becomes the less that common sense enters into an equation. Suddenly all these far out ideas from the bleeding hearts become an “anything is possible” type scenrio ie, Al Goron and global warming, global cooling, oh wait, its now global climate change so any change might be termed as dour.

CHRIS SAYS: Oh, look. It’s TURD again. The same TURD who believes that the saying “”God helps those who help themselves”" is a quote from the BIBLE and not from Benjamin Franklin! Yeah, TURD, you gonna bedazzle us with some more choice nuggets showing your (lack of) intelligence???

RW-(the original)

July 21st, 2009
10:50 am

TF,

You’ve got a point. They really should make any serious birthers sit down and watch a montage of Biden in action.

Turd Ferguson

July 21st, 2009
10:51 am

No Salzberger…I beleive I stated…”I think…”

*FLUSH*

Soothsayer

July 21st, 2009
10:52 am

RB from Gwinnett

July 21st, 2009
10:52 am

Copyleft, there were different birth certificates issued in Hawaii at the time he was born “there”. Some were issued to people who were actually born in Hawaii, and a different one was issued to people who may have been born elsewhere, but applied for a birth certificate in Hawaii. From all understanding, the only thing he has produced is verification from Hawaii that he has a Hawaii issued birth certificate and has not divulged which variety was issued.

I suspect you already know this, however, and just don’t want to discuss the real issue here hoping you can make it go away like it hasn’t happened. That would put you in the same category with Jay on the intellectual honesty scale….at the bottom.

Why not just show the birth certificate and end all the scandal? If you have the ability to prove all the “birthers” idiots, why don’t you? Who in their right mind would endure the level of nuisance this has risen to, along with the money being spent, when the solution is so simple as showing the document? And the political slam dunk would be incredibly damaging to the Rush/Hannity crowd at the same time.

Yet the scandal continues…. Why?

@@

July 21st, 2009
10:52 am

Since it’s Republicans having to answer the call for proof, I’d say what you’re seeing are people exhibiting a skepticism towards ALL politicians. Nuthin’ wrong with that in my opinion.

Solutions don’t always have to be complicated.

josef nix

July 21st, 2009
10:52 am

Are we talking more education, or more years of schooling?

ByteMe

July 21st, 2009
10:52 am

Hey GOP: you reap what you sow! You cultivated the nuts. You get to keep them.

Paul

July 21st, 2009
10:52 am

RW-(the original)

[[They really should make any serious birthers sit down and watch a montage of Biden in action.]]

Oh, nooooooo…… now we’re gonna get the ‘he was abducted by aliens and returned’ stories…..

RW-(the original)

July 21st, 2009
10:53 am

Captain Steve

July 21st, 2009
10:54 am

If Obama has a long-form, why doesn’t he show it? If he doesn’t have one, why not? People that hide things, usually have something to hide. He works for us. We have a right to know! We have a right to demand it!!!!!!!!!!!! We need to send a message to Obama and to EVERY OTHER POTENTIAL VIOLATOR OF OUR RULE OF LAW!!!!!!!!!!!

OBAMA, STOP HIDING. SHOW US THE LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!!!

USinUK

July 21st, 2009
10:54 am

Mike –

“If the GOP is to be held accountable for “birthers, then the Dems can be held accountable for the “truthers”. Which group do you think is wackier?”

um. how many Dem rallies have you seen hijacked like the video shows above? and how many leading Dem blogs have been hijacked by the issue.

the 9/11ers really are fringe … the Dems know how to deal with them – deny their oxygen

Chris Salzmann

July 21st, 2009
10:54 am

Turd Ferguson July 21st, 2009 10:51 am SAID: No Salzberger…I beleive I stated…”I think…” *FLUSH*

CHRIS SAYS: ROFLMAO!!! Now he’s hedging!!!! So you “think” such ignorance often???

Normal

July 21st, 2009
10:55 am

When I adopted my daughters, South Carolina changed their birth certificates to show that I was their natural father. So this is really easy to fix, I’ll adopt President Obama, then they can put my name in as his natural father…problem solved.

USinUK

July 21st, 2009
10:56 am

“They really should make any serious birthers sit down and watch a montage of Biden in action”

no we wouldn’t. if they had their way, they’d call the entire election null and void, and either demand a new election or give it solidly to McCain and St. Sarah of the Tundra (harrowing be her name)

josef nix

July 21st, 2009
10:56 am

Biden? He’s off to the Ukraine and Georgia. Just what DID go on behind closed doors in Fierce Advocate’s trip to Russia that it’s necessary to send Copy Me off to pay attention there?

Finn McCool

July 21st, 2009
10:57 am

Let them discuss their birther ideas.

Keep them distracted while we put this health care thing together.

deegee

July 21st, 2009
10:57 am

That was even more awkward than the John McCain town hall meeting where the crackpot old lady stood up and claimed that Barack Obama is a muslim. At least the McCain handlers were able to contain that situation.

USinUK

July 21st, 2009
10:58 am

oh, and Jay … thanks for putting out catnip for the crazies again … didn’t we have enough of this crapola last week???

AmVet

July 21st, 2009
10:58 am

Zooks, pink elephants on parade!

“First show us proof that W wasn’t a newt.”

THE best line of the day.

“Where’d she get a birth certificate with a seal on it? Mine has a walrus, way more cool – ”

THE second best line of the day!

“PAUL–and mine has the egg man!”

And show pays 6 to 1!

Angry and bigoted losers, the hideous face of the imploding GOP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=944cPciN-kw

Chris Salzmann

July 21st, 2009
10:58 am

Captain Steve July 21st, 2009 10:54 am SAID: If Obama has a long-form, why doesn’t he show it? If he doesn’t have one, why not? People that hide things, usually have something to hide. He works for us. We have a right to know! We have a right to demand it!!!!!!!!!!!! We need to send a message to Obama and to EVERY OTHER POTENTIAL VIOLATOR OF OUR RULE OF LAW!!!!!!!!!!! OBAMA, STOP HIDING. SHOW US THE LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!!!

CHRIS SAYS: Jay, see now what you’ve done??? All the nutcases are coming out of the wood work here. Hey Steve, I don’t have a Certificate of Live Birth either. That make me less of an American? I can’t become President now? ROFLMAO. Isn’t it time for you to take that medication again?

Turd Ferguson

July 21st, 2009
10:59 am

More misquotes and maligning from Salzberger…lol.

TnGelding

July 21st, 2009
10:59 am

I posted this the other day. Lunatic fringe, no doubt, but I’d like to see it myself. It shouldn’t be any problem to have it certified, verified and made public to shut them up.

Mrs. Godzilla

July 21st, 2009
11:00 am

Remember when President Obama “poked” at Rush what’s his name?
It highlighted ditto head foolishness to the advantage of the President.

I suspect, The President allows the half baked birther nonsense to continue to percolate for one reason…..it makes the right look
really really bad. Again advantage Mr. President.

RW-(the original)

July 21st, 2009
11:00 am

Would the new printings of the book be changed to Dreams From Normal?

josef nix

July 21st, 2009
11:00 am

Am Vet–thought you’d like those two!

Paul

July 21st, 2009
11:04 am

RW-(the original) 10:53

I’d heard of that episode (the one where the guy wanted him to swear on a Bible?) but didn’t know it was on video.

I’d hope any jury would award damages to ALDRIN –

hmmm, maybe that explains why Rosie stopped hounding Cheney over 9-11?

Capitol Hack

July 21st, 2009
11:05 am

I always refrain from calling anyone an “idiot” or from using other derogatory terms on the blogs and comment pages. But this issue sorely tests my limits. Do these people not know that a certified birth certificate from the State of Hawaii was produced during the campaign last year to put to rest these wild allegations? Will they not believe it until each person has a chance to hold it and examine it personally? Do they not know that the Honolulu newspaper archives hold birth announcements showing the birth of a baby boy to Barack Obama’s parents in Hawaii? Do they not know that attending medical staff have recollected his birth?

Continuing to say “there’s no evidence” when presented with the evidence is – if not stupidity – then lunacy. And the lunacy among conservatives these days seems to be very widespread.

“Hiding his birth certificate”, RB??? What are you talking about? Obama has not gone through much effort to hide something that was made public last year. Maybe you should “go to the effort” of getting the facts instead of just going along with the angry yammering mob that your party is becoming. You can help your party bring a little common sense to the table by manning up and saying, “OK, time to move on with some real issues.”

Chris Salzmann

July 21st, 2009
11:05 am

Turd Ferguson July 21st, 2009 10:59 am SAID: More misquotes and maligning from Salzberger…lol.

CHRIS SAYS: Whatever dude. You got caught with your pants around your ankle and you can’t admit you were wrong. What’s that conservative mantra about taking responsibility? You could have shut me up by admitting you were wrong and gotten done with it. “I didn’t say it” but ” I said I think” is the lamest of the lame. How old are you? 10? You sure act your age.

ByteMe

July 21st, 2009
11:06 am

Gelding: it’s not “proof” they want. What they want their birthright of a “white christian nation” headed by an old white guy. Even if you showed them personally the “proof” they would claim it was fake in order to keep their hopes alive.

Let’s hope they don’t pass their madness onto their kids.

RW-(the original)

July 21st, 2009
11:06 am

Paul,

I played around with Safari 4.0 quite a bit last night. Probably because they try to idiot proof the Mac stuff it’s hard to find various options for customizing, but it ran flawlessly browsing various websites simultaneously.

AmVet

July 21st, 2009
11:07 am

Actually that woman reminds me of book-burner in the Field of Dreams town hall scene:

Annie Kinsella: Terence Mann was a voice of reason during a time of great madness. He coined the phrase, “Make love, not war”. Where others were chanting, “Burn, baby burn”, he talked about love, and peace and understanding. I cherished every one of his books, and I dearly wish he had written some more. And I think that if you had experienced even a little bit of the Sixties, you might feel the same way too.

Pro-censorship woman: I experienced the Sixties.

Annie Kinsella: No, I think you had two ’50’s and moved right on to the ’70’s.

And she is now probably a cult hero among our less enlightened contributors here. who also were Republicans back then..

Mort Merkel

July 21st, 2009
11:10 am

OK, guys. I’ve got the “long form,” birth certificate. Gonna put it up on ebay, along with Sasquatch’s fuzzy slippers.

GayGrayGeek

July 21st, 2009
11:11 am

ByteMe @ 11:06 – What they want their birthright of a “white christian nation” headed by an old white guy.

That’s much too, too true. It’s obvious that the Grumpy Old Palefaces won’t be happy until another Grumpy Old Paleface is POTUS of this “white Christian nation”.

TnGelding

July 21st, 2009
11:13 am

Soothsayer

July 21st, 2009
10:52 am

I would point out we were manufacturing more (in dollar value) than ever before right before this recession. That said, maybe we should use some of the stimulus money to reopen some of the steel mills and textile plants.

mm

July 21st, 2009
11:14 am

I think Obama lets this issue play on to show America how crazy the wingers are. The economy is still hurting and healthcare needs reform.

But the wingers go after the shiny objects:

Birth certificates, past associates, teleprompters, date night, foreign travel, flagpins, blah, blah, blah.

America’s not buying it anymore, morons.

josef nix

July 21st, 2009
11:14 am

MORT–First, I wanna see Sasquatch’s birth certificate…I heard he was born in British Columbia…

USinUK

July 21st, 2009
11:16 am

G-cubed …

honey, you said a mouthful.

I think the most telling part of that video is that woman ranting that she wants her country back … um, darlin’, what part of your country? the one where it’s led by a middle aged white guy???

Paul

July 21st, 2009
11:16 am

RW-(the original) 11:06

And I’d just jumped back on this blog to ask you if you’d had a chance to examine it. I may have to give it a try – thanks much!

Now, back to reading about the latest declining poll numbers… and India’s telling the US ‘no’ on cap n’ trade (we got to our wealth status by utilizing cheap energy and some want to deny the Indians the same chance to improve their standard of living?!!? How unDemocratic!), and….

The month’s two-thirds over. US deaths in Afg so far: 30. Right up there with the worst of Iraq. More deaths than any month in Afg.

Where did I find this? On the back page of the front section. What did I see in the NY Times online? A subpoint that read:

“A deadly month for US troops in Afghanistan”

“A” deadly month??!!!? Not ‘the worst ever’ or ‘deaths increase to record level’ but just ‘a’ deadly month?

Bias? Nonsense!

Finn McCool

July 21st, 2009
11:18 am

Chris writes: Hey Steve, I don’t have a Certificate of Live Birth either.

Chris, there should be a group of men knocking on your door right about now…

RB from Gwinnett

July 21st, 2009
11:18 am

Hack, the only think Obama has produced is Hawaii saying they issued him a birth certificate. If he had produced one showing he was born in X hospital, this issue would be closed. And showing it to Rahm Emanual and Rammi saying “case closed” doesn’t cut it. Heck show it to Rush himself and embarrass the entire Rush/Hannity crowd and laugh all the way through the next election. If you have the document to show, that is.

I’ve not heard anything about attending physicians saying they remember him. Do you have a link to that claim?

I guess you think the attorneys defending all these court cases are working for free????

TnGelding

July 21st, 2009
11:19 am

ByteMe

July 21st, 2009
11:06 am

You’re probably right. Let’s hope they don’t have any children.

josef nix

July 21st, 2009
11:19 am

USinUK–leave us middle aged white guys alone! :-)

Finn McCool

July 21st, 2009
11:20 am

mm writes: But the wingers go after the shiny objects

My side hurts from laughing at that!

TUESDAY VANDY GIRL

July 21st, 2009
11:20 am

UPDATE: Administration Delays Key Budget Report…

Poll: Public losing trust in Obama…

White House misses deadline on spending cuts report…

delays Guantanamo report…

Critics Slam Overweight Surgeon General Pick…

Obama is having one HELL of a good week,eh?, no wonder Jay had to dig deep to find something like the birth certificate issue to talk about.

mm

July 21st, 2009
11:20 am

This lunacy would cease if some top republicans would speak out. But then they would lose the remaining 20 percent of their voters. The GOP is toast. Funny how they think we’re turning against Obama.

Cherokee

July 21st, 2009
11:21 am

“Why not just show the birth certificate and end all the scandal?”

As others have pointed out, he did. Now, though, the continued howling by wingnuts only can cause problems for Republicans – in that it makes them look like idiots to the sane amongst us.

So why would he? Dems win this one…

Normal

July 21st, 2009
11:21 am

This little ditty is dedacated to all you birthers out there, brought to you for your lunch time enjoyment by “Everybody Wants To Be Normal”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOwDXNJbZK0 – 126k

ByteMe

July 21st, 2009
11:22 am

RB says, the only think Obama has produced is Hawaii saying they issued him a birth certificate.

And the only thing RB has is… nothing. Not one damn thing to refute the State of Hawaii other than people he trusts hasn’t touched a piece of paper and deemed it real. Hang on to that lunacy, RB!

mm

July 21st, 2009
11:25 am

Vandy Girl,

Don’t you love how that evil leftwing media is protecting Obama?

TUESDAY VANDY GIRL

July 21st, 2009
11:25 am

Since the Atlanta rap and celebrity sighting gossip site, the AJC, doesnt report on such news…

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The House of Representatives Energy and Commerce Committee has canceled its Tuesday debate and vote on healthcare legislation but has kept a Wednesday meeting on its schedule.

The Democratic-led committee has been struggling to keep a group of fiscally conservative Democrats on board with the nearly $1 trillion, 10-year healthcare overhaul. The group, known as the Blue Dog Democrats, has said they cannot support legislation that would increase the massive federal budget deficit.

Obama-care(s) isn’t looking so healthy :)

Turd Ferguson

July 21st, 2009
11:26 am

The “I think” was a qualifier thereby qualifying that my statement, being a passage from the Bible, may or may not be correct hence…I think.

Nice try though…butt dont do away mad. As a consulation prize you win a years supply of TurtleWax. Congratulations and thanks for playing…NEXT!

Rest easy in your liberal life of denial and blame.

TnGelding

July 21st, 2009
11:26 am

Paul

July 21st, 2009
11:16 am

Used as a sacrificial pawn
Just like fertilizer on the White House lawn

Will we, and the rest of mankind, ever learn?

I think the increased deaths are getting plenty of media attention, tho:

Deadliest months for US troops in Afghanistan

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_AFGHAN_US_DEADLIEST_MONTHS?SITE=GACAT&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

US military deaths in Afghanistan region at 669

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_AFGHAN_US_DEATHS?SITE=GACAT&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

USinUK

July 21st, 2009
11:26 am

“And the only thing RB has is… nothing.”

seriously. I don’t have a “long form” (whatever that is) … all I’ve got is the certified short form that states that my parents are my parents (which they’re not – I was adopted, they were not my birth parents) …

… and yet …

that form was good enough for me to get a passport

it was good enough for me to get a drivers license

it was good enough for me to get a marriage certificate

for 43 years, that form has served as a legal form of ID …

and now these idiots on parade say “nooooooo, we need the super-duper-double-secret-probation-long-form before we’ll accept any dusky-hued man as our president”

oh, yeah, we’re in a “post racial” society :roll:

Gandalf, the White! AKA "King of the Wild Frontier"

July 21st, 2009
11:30 am

1. Copyleft is an idiot.
2. If there is nothing to this controversy why does Barry not produce the in docuement in question? Must be something inside….Something to this in my opinion!

getalife

July 21st, 2009
11:30 am

I hope it is true then Hillary is President.

She will not cover up gop crimes after they impeached her husband.

Just sayin.

TUESDAY VANDY GIRL

July 21st, 2009
11:30 am

mm, I never expect blacks or the far left to abandon the sinking SS B. Hussein Obama ( a kenyan registered ship , no doubt)..it’s those squishy idiots in the middle..the so called independents and moderates, that I see peeling away like rats fleeing a sinking cruise ship.

Gandalf, the White! AKA "King of the Wild Frontier"

July 21st, 2009
11:32 am

EXPAT: Barry is hiding something! Why not show it? He’s hidin’ something. “There’s an African-American is in the Woodshed” as my mother used to say… just sayin’! :roll:

DB, Gwinnettian

July 21st, 2009
11:33 am

Paul, the story you refer to @ 11.16 has this in its second graf:

With the four newest fatalities, at least 30 Americans have died in the first three weeks of July, surpassing the highest previous monthly toll, 28, reached in June 2008.

Is that not forthright enough for you?

Also, about its placement — you call it a “subpoint,” reality is, yes, is not quite at the top of the online edition, but the story link does appear directly underneath a more current story of an Afghan attack that’s killed six, filed just minutes ago.

RW-(the original)

July 21st, 2009
11:33 am

“The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system.”–President Obama.

Does anyone think that’s really the best sales pitch?

Gandalf, the White! AKA "King of the Wild Frontier"

July 21st, 2009
11:36 am

RW at least he didn’t lie about one thing! :roll:

AmVet

July 21st, 2009
11:36 am

Vandy, I must say that 11:20 is by far the happiest I have EVER seen you here! (Well since your return from Bookman’s Land of blogging Nod on the East of Eden.)

Take flight, hopeful conned!

Only sixteen more months until your next electoral humiliation…

TnGelding

July 21st, 2009
11:37 am

TUESDAY VANDY GIRL

July 21st, 2009
11:20 am

Where did you find all that? Couldn’t have been from the swoonng MSM.

But:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/32022696

mike

July 21st, 2009
11:37 am

“Republican patriotism IS false patriotism”

Yet another liberal questioning somebody else’s patriotism.

Gandalf, the White! AKA "King of the Wild Frontier"

July 21st, 2009
11:38 am

there’s a Kenyan in the White House with an FUGLY wife who get the secret service to weed HER Garden! She used child labor for planting and didn’t pay them! She is truly evil.

RB from Gwinnett

July 21st, 2009
11:38 am

You’re right, byte, I don’t trust Obama on this issue and I don’t have anything more than what everyone else has.

Several of you have raised valid issues; lost original birth certificates, adoption, etc., but you all know that’s not what this discussion is about. Obama has never said he lost his birth certificate, the hospital lost my records and here’s the only copy I have, I was adopted and was actually the son of KKK Byrd and his maid, nothing. He just keeps hiding whatever document it is he has. If there is ANY valid reason why he should not show it to someone who can end this discussion forever, please do share it. BTW, I would be more than satisfied if he did that and was legitimate. I just don’t understand why anyone would hide something so simple if they had nothing to hide.

El Jefe

July 21st, 2009
11:38 am

Has anyone noticed, that when a simple question is asked, “Show us the birth certificate” – we get every talking point spewed by the left, but nothing about what the topic was about.

There are several examples of what a early 1960’s Hawaiian birth certificate looks like(http://snarkybytes.com/?p=521) and what the President has shown is not the same. Why is his hidden?

Why has he spent so much money hidding his past?

mike

July 21st, 2009
11:38 am

“Yeah, these “Birthers” are in the same category of those idiots who deny that the moon landings ever happened. Narrow minded paranoia is pretty common among the uneducated and uninformed. Isn’t there a statistic that says that the more educated you are, the more likely you are a democrat or vote democrat???”

Well how do you explain all of the “truther” Democrats?

Finn McCool

July 21st, 2009
11:38 am

Tuesday, you got that right!

The idiots in the middle who are peeling away and fleeiing the sinking ship to join….the other idiots who never got on the ship.

Do you realize you just called those who aren’t supporting Obama a bunch of idiots?

Turd Ferguson

July 21st, 2009
11:40 am

I dont need nor want Obama’s help.

josef nix

July 21st, 2009
11:40 am

mike–just for the record, I’m a liberal and I challenged copyleft for that remark as well…

Gandalf, the White! AKA "King of the Wild Frontier"

July 21st, 2009
11:40 am

Finn, that’s you so what is Tuesday!

Brian

July 21st, 2009
11:41 am

Joey

July 21st, 2009
11:42 am

Jay;
Yes, the birther issue is non-sense, but you could not be more wrong about this issue harming the GOP. I understand that you would like it to be harmful to Republicans. And certainly you are doing your part. Trying so hard to bring harm to the Party.

I really hope you are receiving your creds from the Democrats for your efforts. You are really working hard to bring to this blog any thing that possibly could be construed as harming the GOP. It would be a shame for this effort to go un-noticed by your Party.

At-A-Boy!

USinUK

July 21st, 2009
11:42 am

Mike –

“Well how do you explain all of the “truther” Democrats?”

what “all” … ??? name me one major Democratic blog or one major Democratic congress critter that gives any of the “truthers” any credence???

Hornby

July 21st, 2009
11:44 am

Republicans are only hurting themselves with this nonsense. There are literally a THOUSAND valid criticisms of Obama- this just isn’t one of them.

Advice to “birthers” from an independent who doesn’t care for either party- get real, grow up, and loosen that tin-foil hat a little.

Paul

July 21st, 2009
11:45 am

TNGelding, DB, Gwinnettian

As far as the subpoint mention of the record US fatalities in Afghanistan with the month not nearly over – in the NY Times online, my point was that if this would have been a record month for fatalities in Iraq, it would’ve been banner headline time, not a subpoint.

My memory of such fatality rates in Iran is that they were reported front page, newshour leads, plenty of video and descriptions, war opponent reaction, questions of policy, etc etc etc. Quite unlike the reporting of deaths in Afghanistan.

The Brit death rate has caused an outcry over there, with all sorts of demonstrations and questioning by members of Parliament. Quite unlike here.

No, a second paragraph mention of highest ever is not enough for me.

Doug

July 21st, 2009
11:46 am

It’s the Constitution! ~~ Don’t you people care about rule of law and our constitution???? Seriously, if Obroma was a conservative or Republican, you all would be demanding his ouster. You lefties are the seriously disturbed in society, and you don’t even see it.

GOP is gone

July 21st, 2009
11:47 am

Forget the birth certificate nonsense, I can tell she is completely crazy from those bad “mom” jeans and that foot long banana clip in her hair. Somebody call Stacey and Clinton to help this woman quick.

Gandalf, the White! (Justa Victim of a Bad Reputation!)

July 21st, 2009
11:47 am

Barry is POTUS cuz too many people think with thier hearts and not thier minds. Any Idiot could see he makes promises in the dark.

USinUK

July 21st, 2009
11:50 am

Doug –

“It’s the Constitution! ~~ Don’t you people care about rule of law and our constitution???? Seriously, if Obroma was a conservative or Republican, you all would be demanding his ouster. You lefties are the seriously disturbed in society, and you don’t even see it”

do. please. show me where in the Constitution that it says that one must have a “super-duper-double-secret-probation-long-form” birth certificate to prove citizenship.

that’s okay. I’ll wait.