This birther nonsense becoming a big problem for the GOP
Here’s Mike Castle, a Republican congressman from Delaware, trying to deal with the birther nonsense at a town hall meeting back on June 30. It really gets a little spooky when the woman hijacks the meeting with an impromptu demand for the Pledge of Allegiance. It’s hard to imagine a more vivid example of how easily false patriotism can trump reason and common sense.
Apparently, CNN’s Lou Dobbs — always on the lookout these days for a fringe issue to ride — is also jumping on the bandwagon.
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DB, Gwinnettian
July 21st, 2009
11:51 am
my point was that if this would have been a record month for fatalities in Iraq, it would’ve been banner headline time, not a subpoint.
I’d kinda like a like:like example rather than recalled-from-memory observations. My recollection is that the harsher-sounding headlines about Iraq casualties were seen well after the fall of Baghdad; it was newsworthy because it was unexpected; the mission had been accomplished and peace and democracy were supposed to spread.
I don’t think anyone’s terribly surprised that a major military offensive has produced fatalities. Also believe that at month’s end, you’ll see an accounting of the human toll, as well we should see it.
Finn McCool
July 21st, 2009
11:52 am
Joey, we’ve noticed.
USinUK, what is a “truther”?
getalife
July 21st, 2009
11:53 am
Public option is a good idea but you can’t trust the corrupt Congress.
Dennis Kuchinich’s amendment for States can use single payer is the best option but it will fail.
Ga. fiscal con (bs) Senator’s are fighting for the F-22’s on the Senate floor the Pentagon does not want.
josef nix
July 21st, 2009
11:55 am
I don’t know which is sillier, the birthers or those getting all bent out of shape over the antics of a group who are, at best, a sideshow attraction. Talk about looking for an argument.
Mrs. Godzilla
July 21st, 2009
11:56 am
FInn
the 9/11 truthers…..the “it was an inside job” guys….
liberal talks show hosts toss them of the phone regularly
Hornby
July 21st, 2009
11:57 am
Doug- Obama has satisfied EVERY qualification written in the Constitution to be POTUS. He HAS produced a birth certificate. You can see it online and even zoom in on the seal. They did this a long time ago.
What you are insinuating is a grand conspiracy of both political parties and each one’s opponents, the state of Hawaii, various courts and judges, the State Department, and the Secret Service. Honestly, it ranks a little less believable than 9/11 conspiracy theories.
You really think McCain’s people didn’t check this rumor out? Or Hillary’s people for that matter?
Gandalf, the White! (Justa Victim of a Bad Reputation!)
July 21st, 2009
11:58 am
I got moderated!
AmVet
July 21st, 2009
12:00 pm
Thanks Mrs. G, I too was ignorant about that one.
But having already confessed to being the second gunman on the grassy knoll, I’m sure you can understand why…
DB, Gwinnettian
July 21st, 2009
12:01 pm
what is a “truther”?
Finn, seriously? google MIHOP and LIHOP.
in a nutshell, you have the crazier MIHOP (Made It Happen on Purpose) guys who think the WTC was either a controlled demolition and the Pentagon was a cruise missle; and the somewhat less-crazy LIHOP (Let it Happen on Purpose) folk think Team Bush, or some cabal, were well aware that OBL and crew were planning the attack but let it happen because of the opportunities to suppress civil liberties and secure power.
Neither side gets much support from mainstream left wing blogs; MIHOPpers, who are the more authentic analog to the Birthers, are generally shunned, as well they should be.
Rommel
July 21st, 2009
12:02 pm
oops! looks like the lady in the video forgot to wear her swastika brassard!
Gandalf, the Grey
July 21st, 2009
12:06 pm
Is this moderated too?
RB from Gwinnett
July 21st, 2009
12:06 pm
“I don’t think anyone’s terribly surprised that a major military offensive has produced fatalities. ”
That has to be about the most dishonest thing posted here in quite some time. You know darn well your lib friends almost cheered every time a soldier died, especially when it was near a milestone number, because it gave them yet another reason to bash Bush and blame him personally for each and every death. The way you’ve discounted this death toll after the way your crowd bashed Bush for it is disgraceful.
S GA dem
July 21st, 2009
12:09 pm
Forget about birth certificates, I wanna see a high school diploma from any of these conspiracy theory crazies. Especially Tuesday girl. Vandy, my ar$e!!
Gandalf, the White! (Shiek Abooty)
July 21st, 2009
12:10 pm
War is hell, if we are allowed to win, Hell is thrown at the enemy until his society is tired of dying and gives up completely. Like Japan, like Germany. After that we got weak. Korea, not allowed to win. Viet Nam not allowed to win. Gulf War I not allowed to finish the job. To fight in Afganistan may mean crossing lots of borders in pursuit and killing lots and lots of civilians. That is the cost of war.
Gandalf, the White! (Shiek Abooty)
July 21st, 2009
12:11 pm
They kill one of ours, we kill 100 of thiers. War is won by the ruthless, not the civilized.
Me
July 21st, 2009
12:12 pm
Horby, get a clue. Obama has NOT shown his BIRTH CERTIFICATE!
Tom
July 21st, 2009
12:15 pm
All this phoney “patriotism” is just that! Like “heroes” and “warriors”
and the like. (Note the masses drooling over the useless geek in Afghan who wandered away from his encampment. Saws he is “scared” and “afraid.” What an example of honor, duty, country, bravery, et al.)
The usual Republiscum patriotic ploy and emotional appeal to the uninformed rancid masses. And it works!! Duh. “Yup! les git thum Plege Leegunce laws workin, Lamer Jean! Weel be better n stronger 4 hit! God Bluss Murcuh!! Rat, Elwood??” “Yup – rat chew r!!” You go, patriots! Serve some more tours of duty!
TnGelding
July 21st, 2009
12:18 pm
Paul
July 21st, 2009
11:45 am
Well, we’ve been there for nearly 8 years and I think it is off of most people’s radar screen.
truth
July 21st, 2009
12:19 pm
Obama has access to nuclear weapons. He can make an order at anytime and have them fired off within minutes. He can even have them explode on Washington DC if he wanted to. There is nothing in place to stop that from happening. Since we don’t know who this Obama guy (i.e. none of this records have been released) shouldn’t we error on the side of caution here?
Copyleft
July 21st, 2009
12:19 pm
Obama’s birth certificate has been made available; you can see it online. The seal is there. It IS a legal birth certificate.
None of that matters to the deranged birthers, of course. They’d prefer to claim that Obama’s birth certificate really isn’t a birth certificate, and that there’s a magical “REAL birth-certificate out there somewhere” so they can whine and moan about why Obama has refused to produce it.
You can’t produce what doesn’t exist, lunatics. Like a Republican who can win elections, for example.
Redneck Convert
July 21st, 2009
12:19 pm
Well, I don’t care if this Obama shows a 10-page birth certificate and has 10 Baptist preachers swearing on the Bible he was born in the U.S. of A. I’m just like alot of the people here. I ain’t never going to accept one of Those People as my president. It just didn’t happen and you can’t make me beleive it did. If he ain’t White, he ain’t Right.
And that’s all I got to say about that. Have a good p.m. everybody.
DB, Gwinnettian
July 21st, 2009
12:20 pm
That has to be about the most dishonest thing posted here in quite some time. You know darn well your lib friends almost cheered every time a soldier died
Do I? Cite please.
And make sure these are my “lib friends” doing the almost-cheering, since you seem to know who those people would be.
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
July 21st, 2009
12:21 pm
Obozo cannot answer the simple question so instead he sends out his minions and hacks to demonize and hiss at the woman patriot.
What a great country we live in.
Bosch
July 21st, 2009
12:22 pm
Thanks Jay for giving us more to smile and laugh about. The lunatic fringe is alive and well.
I have to share this off-topic funny story:
I was sitting in the doctor’s office this morning, waiting to be called back. This little boy comes in with grandma and grandpa and he picks up a book and wants to read it. I noticed he picked up a copy of the New Testament. He asked his grandma to read it with him and she said she didn’t want to (she had a woman magazine and really didn’t notice what he had picked up because she didn’t look up from the magazine). So the little boy flips through the book for a minute and then looks at me and says, “You know? I really just don’t get this book!” After choking back laughter, I told him, “Ya know little dude, nobody gets that book.” I passed him a Highlights and told him he’d probably enjoy that book alot more.
nosef jix
July 21st, 2009
12:22 pm
hi,
i am nosef jix. i have alot to say. infact, i need to to say it all day long including every third post. even though none of it is very interesting.
nosef jix
July 21st, 2009
12:23 pm
nosef jix here agin. sometimes i make two post in a row.
nosef jix
July 21st, 2009
12:23 pm
sometimes three.
Normal
July 21st, 2009
12:24 pm
Truth, it takes two people, two keys, to light off a nuc…you sound like one of those “I got rap-ed by aliens from Venus” nuts…sorry
TnGelding
July 21st, 2009
12:25 pm
I Report
You Whine 
July 21st, 2009
12:21 pm
Yes, we do live in a great country. But not the greatest in history. That woman is another reason I would never wnt to serve in Congress.
RB from Gwinnett
July 21st, 2009
12:25 pm
DB, is your memory really that short or is it just convenient? I’m not inclined to waste my time searching for comments made by getaclue, ms G, amvet and others from a year ago on this blog. If you were here, you know what I said is true as does Jay. Maybe Jay would like to look it up for you?
Greg
July 21st, 2009
12:26 pm
You ever think that maybe, just maybe, President Obama has more pressing matters at hand than satisfying the demands of a bunch of mouth-breathers who think he’s a foreigner?
RB from Gwinnett
July 21st, 2009
12:28 pm
“Obozo cannot answer the simple question so instead he sends out his minions and hacks to demonize and hiss at the woman patriot.”
Exactly the same thing they did to Joe the Plumber. Joe’s only “crime” was he happened to be the lucky person standing in front of Obama when he divulged his true socialist feelings of spreading the wealth. And for that, he has been ridiculed for anything and everything while the left tried to ignore the fact it was Obama’s comments that mattered.
Paul
July 21st, 2009
12:29 pm
DB, Gwinnettian 11:51
[[’d kinda like a like:like example rather than recalled-from-memory observations. My recollection is that the harsher-sounding headlines about Iraq casualties were seen well after the fall of Baghdad; it was newsworthy because it was unexpected; the mission had been accomplished and peace and democracy were supposed to spread.]]
US deaths hit their highs several years after the fall of Baghdad. The drumbeat of reporting was constant. Just review the headlines of the wire services, not to mention the papers or the tv news reporting.
Question to other readers: does anyone here recall that when US deaths in Iraq hit all-time highs, was it a footnote or a major story? Would a death toll the highest in years have been relegated to a footnote?
[[I don’t think anyone’s terribly surprised that a major military offensive has produced fatalities. Also believe that at month’s end, you’ll see an accounting of the human toll, as well we should see it.]]
Again, we had offensives in Iraq. Was that used as a mitigating factor, then? We sure didn’t have to wait until the end of the month for an accounting! Heck, we even had people here posting the results every day!
I do not know for sure what your position was, at the time, on the Iraq war, so this isn’t directed at you:
I’m amazed that the people who protested the death rate so loudly during Iraq are so… apathetic? silent? on the topic when the deaths occur under Pres Obama in Afghanistan.
Pete
July 21st, 2009
12:30 pm
1. It’s fascinating to see the birthers simultaneously arguing that Obama was born in Kenya, but even if he was born in Hawaii, that he’s still ineligible (despite the 14th Amendment’s clear definition of citizenship).
2. Oh, yeah. There were contemporary newspaper birth announcements. Where did they get the info from you ask? Vital statistics. Where did vital statistics get their info from you ask? That’s right, HOSPITAL PROVIDED BIRTH CERTIFICATES. Again, this doesn’t matter, because the birthers have already made up their minds, and aren’t interested in considering information that pokes holes in their conspiracies.
3. At this point, no matter what Obama says, the birthers will scream “conspiracy”. It’s best for him to ignore them.
4. If Obama had been white, do you really think WND would be whipping this up?
Jefferson
July 21st, 2009
12:30 pm
Taze her Bro
AmVet
July 21st, 2009
12:31 pm
truth, are you suggesting coconuts migrate? Oh Sorry! Wrong movie! But a scenario where the CIC nukes himself??? I’m not sure if even Woody Allen or Mel Brooks ever conceived of that one.
DB at 12;20, I find that “patriotic” (im)poster worse than nonsensical. Disgusting…
Tom I think that these emasculated, chest-pounding, never-served, never-will chickenhawks must all take little blue pills to keep their “weapons” up.
And as someone here brilliantly noted, members of the 101st Chairborne…
Paul
July 21st, 2009
12:31 pm
Hey Bosch
“nobody gets that book”
No kidding…..
sigh….
josef nix
I have a three! Do I have four? Four???
Greg
July 21st, 2009
12:32 pm
And NOBODY other than terrorists was cheering US soldiers’ deaths. A lot of democrats “used” it to prove their political point- that Iraq was a huge mistake and was horribly mismanaged. But NOBODY cheered it.
Seems to me a lot of republicans are hoping Obama screws up, whereas most democrats were hoping Bush would STOP screwing up.
That’s a big part of why young people and those not under the daily influence of Rush Limbaugh despise the GOP. Believe it or not, even the poor “government-educated” young people can sniff out dishonest BS, like the whole “if you don’t support Bush’s invasion of Iraq, then you don’t support the troops, and you’re not a patriot”. It’s illogical and a mean-spirited LIE.
Normal
July 21st, 2009
12:33 pm
Well, Back from lunch…is EVERYBODY H-A-P-P-Y???
Bosch
July 21st, 2009
12:35 pm
Paul,
That little boy’s face was priceless.
Denny
July 21st, 2009
12:35 pm
A Democrat being honest about his bigotry.
If you do not have a High School Diploma, you are not worthy of being on the this blog.
DB, Gwinnettian
July 21st, 2009
12:38 pm
is your memory really that short or is it just convenient?
No, my memory is sharp as can be, and it includes the kind of nasty accusations such as you’ve leveled at me, that we celebrated troop deaths in Iraq. That talking point got a lot of play as Bush’s numbers headed permanently south and Republicans desperately clung to straws for something, anything they could hurl at those who dared to challenge the wisdom of Bush’s Iraq invasion and occupation.
I’m simply calling you out, and telling you you’re full of s–t. I have friends and colleagues who are either over there or who have family who are, or were. That I would suffer fools like you gladly, who think I celebrate our soldiers’ deaths, or tolerate any such celebration, is simply a non-starter.
So put up or shut up. Tell me who among my “lib friends” celebrated in such a fashion. Or maybe try thinking for yourself instead of allowing some right wing idiot to do it for you.
Greg
July 21st, 2009
12:39 pm
Paul, you realize Iraq and Afghanistan are two different countries, right? You realize one could support the war in A-stan (seeing as they harbored Bin Laden- the guy responsible for 9/11) and not the war in Iraq (country that was no threat to us and wouldn’t sell us oil), right?
It IS telling, however, that less people are protesting the war in Iraq under Obama. That IS a valid criticism and I think it shows that a lot of the protesters were just anti-Bush.
But the fact that the media and the people don’t give the justified war in A-Stan the same treatment as the unjustified fiasco in Iraq doesn’t prove anything to me.
Gandalf, the White! (Shiek Abooty)
July 21st, 2009
12:39 pm
Bosch over 1 billion living people get that book. Too tough for ya pal?
Reallity
July 21st, 2009
12:41 pm
El Jefe, how much has he spent? You should know that since you know he spent so much hiding his past.
RB from Gwinnett
July 21st, 2009
12:42 pm
DB, I gave you 3 names. Are you unable to read and comprehend?
RB from Gwinnett
July 21st, 2009
12:42 pm
“I’m amazed that the people who protested the death rate so loudly during Iraq are so… apathetic? silent? on the topic when the deaths occur under Pres Obama in Afghanistan.”
I’m not.
@@
July 21st, 2009
12:43 pm
DB:
I never saw what I would define as “a celebration” but the tally was brought forth daily to support the left’s anti-war movement. Would you accept the word “exploit”.
Copyleft
July 21st, 2009
12:43 pm
RB from Gwinnett; So, once again, you’re simply lying and refusing to provide any evidence to back up your claims because you know there isn’t any. What a surprise!
Gandalf: No, a billion people THINK they get that book. And, like you, they’re 100% wrong.
pat
July 21st, 2009
12:44 pm
Hey wasn’t it far left extremists protesting, breaking things and hurting people at the G8? On my well yes it was….Do you really want to compare who has more kooks? The left has a perponderence of extremist groups operating. You have no room to talk.
RB from Gwinnett
July 21st, 2009
12:45 pm
“Bosch over 1 billion living people get that book. Too tough for ya pal?”
Not enough pictures I guess?….
Soothsayer
July 21st, 2009
12:45 pm
Raw Sewage Spews through UGA Campus! Boy, Redneck Convert is going to have a field day with this one!
kitty
July 21st, 2009
12:45 pm
Oh, the loonies and their tin foil hats. If McCain and the RNC who did have a dog in the hunt didn’t go to court regarding this “birther” nonsense, there is no issue. We need more padded cells for these idiots.
Roy Lee
July 21st, 2009
12:47 pm
Bookman, you know good and well that if it were a republican president failing to produce a valid birth certificate your little fingers would be non-stop on your keyboard daily asking him or her “where is the birth certificate?” and “what are you hiding?”
josef nix
July 21st, 2009
12:47 pm
PAUL–four!
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
July 21st, 2009
12:47 pm
Cindy Sheehan was a crackpot, deluxe, and I don’t remember the part where the pinko media passed up their chance to aim her at the White House.
But now they sing a different tune, just sayin….
getalife
July 21st, 2009
12:48 pm
Saxby loses the F-22 vote.
Doggone/GA
July 21st, 2009
12:48 pm
“Would you accept the word “exploit”.”
Absolutely. Just like the Bush regime “exploited” the deaths of innocent Iraqis by NOT reporting them.
lovelyliz
July 21st, 2009
12:49 pm
The GOP beleives in committing political suicide quickly, don’t they?
Chewbacca's Sack
July 21st, 2009
12:49 pm
GREAT POINT, Pat. I forgot that two wrongs make a right.
RW-(the original)
July 21st, 2009
12:49 pm
Does anybody really believe that luckovich did his why? cartoon the day that the 2,000 soldier died or did he have it in the works just waiting for the names to roll in so he could finish it?
Paul
July 21st, 2009
12:49 pm
Bosch
Actually, I was kinda concerned the grannie was gonna whack you!
Greg
Yeah, I realize Iraq and Afghanistan are two different countries. The spelling difference was my first clue.
You’re not making the case the Iraq war was about oil, are you? Please, no….
Your second paragraph – seems to me a valid point.
But as far as the justified war in Afghanistan, here’s my take:
al Qaeda (bin Laden’s group) was given safe haven by, and was intertwined with, the government of Afghanistan (Taliban).
We were attacked by AQ, not the Taliban.
We attacked Afg and its government when they refused to hand over bin Laden.
We destroyed the gov’t of Afghanistan, sent the Taliban and AQ running.
(I’m still waiting for those who define ‘legal’ wars by citing UN provisions for proportionality, etc, to weigh in with how Afg is a just and legal war. You out there, CopyLeft?).
But… but… rather than walk away, we stayed. Impose our cultural values, democratic ideals, all that stuff. Pres Obama expanded the war (he was counseled not to by his VP and SecState).
So….
isn’t it possible to make the case that the //initial// invasion was justified, but…
the morphing of goals and their achievement through military means means we are essentially in a new war, or phase of war, and THAT justification is questionable?
Normal
July 21st, 2009
12:49 pm
Gandalf, the White! (SLEEK BOOTY)
July 21st, 2009
12:39 pm
Bosch over 1 billion living people get that book. Too tough for ya pal?
————-
I don’t know Gandie baby, it’s too tough for me. The History Channel says it’s full of codes predicting the future! doomsday! Lions! Tigers! and Bears! If it does all that and millions of people “get” it, why are they still scr+wing up?
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Bosch
July 21st, 2009
12:50 pm
RB,
Really, you should be researching your insane accusations that Mrs. G., AmVet, and getalife were celebrating dead soldiers instead of commenting on something I’ve posted.
catlady
July 21st, 2009
12:50 pm
They are poor little sheep easily led astray. Follow in line like a good little sheep. Do what your shepherd, Rush, tells you to do.
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
July 21st, 2009
12:50 pm
This birther nonsense becoming a big problem for the ~~~~~~~~~~~GOP~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Barack Obama, who completed six months in office Monday, has a 55% approval rating in the USA TODAY/Gallup Poll, putting him 10th among the dozen presidents who have served since World War II at this point in their tenures.
Tenth out of twelve, just sayin….
RB from Gwinnett
July 21st, 2009
12:50 pm
Copy, one last time for you and DB the thick headed…
I will not waste my time looking at blog postings from the left wing nut cases on here 1-2 years ago to prove my memory of them posting “record death” headlines on here and blaming it all on Bush. If you want to spend your time looking, you’re welcome to. Or ask Jay to. Either way, I don’t care. They know they posted it, I know they posted it, and I suspect you do as well. But now you want to sit back and tell everybody if I can’t prove it it didn’t happen?? You really are pathetic.
Normal
July 21st, 2009
12:50 pm
Josef, PAUL-four? Take your base, sir…
Paul
July 21st, 2009
12:52 pm
getalife 12:48
Thanks for reporting good news!
Bosch
July 21st, 2009
12:52 pm
Paul,
Don’t worry, I think I could have out ran her!
Gandalf,
No, I must confess, I don’t get that book.
Normal
July 21st, 2009
12:52 pm
Soothsayer
July 21st, 2009
12:45 pm
—————-
They’ve already started “it’s Georgia Techs fault” spin…
catlady
July 21st, 2009
12:52 pm
Roy Lee, you know we had a good, Republican president who could not show he did the duty he signed up for (to avoid the Viet Nam war) when he was supposed to be hiding in Alabama, for God’s sake!
Chris Salzmann
July 21st, 2009
12:53 pm
I Report
You Whine 
July 21st, 2009 12:21 pm SAID: Obozo cannot answer the simple question so instead he sends out his minions and hacks to demonize and hiss at the woman patriot.
CHRIS SAYS: You talking about Palin and the secessionist First Dude, Todd???? I guess when you join a party who’s official mandate is state secession, then you ARE a true American Patriot!!!!Go figure!
Bugness
July 21st, 2009
12:54 pm
1) President Obama is our duly elected president. The birth certificate flap from the fringe right is hot air.
2) I would have more respect for the fringe right if they put as much effort into ensuring that I – as a Georgia native and an adoptee – have the right to my original birth certificate. I can only be given an amended birth certificate. I am entitled to know my origins.
3) Healthcare reform is overdue in this country.
4) Why should I believe the politicians on the right who claim health care reform will cripple the US? These are the same politicians who claimed years ago that a) “managed healthcare” would give us better care and lower costs and b) deregulation of fill-in-the-blank would give us more choice and lower costs. They lost credibility.
mini mi-mi
July 21st, 2009
12:54 pm
The next thing you know the Republicans will be controlled by those who believe the world is flat, the was created in 6 days (even though the sun wasn’t around on day 1 and that’s how we determine the length of a day), the earth is only 6000 years old, Harry Potter is Jewish & the anti-Christ (well either him or Obama), etc.
lovelyliz
July 21st, 2009
12:56 pm
Did I forget to mention how many of them are still fighting the Civil War and seem to really believe that it had NOTHING to do with slavery?
Turd Ferguson
July 21st, 2009
12:58 pm
Yes Greg…I too thought about that. Then again Obama doesnt really know sh*t from shinola so the King, as it were, should be satisfying his subjects.
Gandalf, the White! (Shiek Abooty)
July 21st, 2009
12:58 pm
2 things:
See one from way above Copyleft is an idiot. (has never had a coherent thought in his life., was teased by his sisters growing up, his mom and dad ignored him and now he talks funny)
2. Jesus loves you all!
Greg
July 21st, 2009
12:58 pm
We didn’t squash Al-Qaeda or the Taliban in Afghanistan. That’s why we’ve got this major offensive going on- the theatre was basically ignored and undermanned for years while we dicked around in Iraq, and the Taliban restructured and retook power.
As for Iraq and oil, I don’t think it was ALL about oil, but the facts are hard to deny: Before the war, Iraq forbade American oil companies from doing business and in fact sold most of its leases to China. Right now, Iraq is in the top 5 countries we import oil from and American and British oil companies have the leases.
And please don’t give me the standard defense of “well where is the oil then? why are gas prices so high?” First of all, gas and oil are two separate commodities. This theory also rides on the FALSE assumption that the government gives a half-crap about you or what you pay for gas. Their allegiance is to the super-corporations that bribe them and will pay them $250,000 a pop to give “speeches” to their executives after they leave office.
Mrs. Godzilla
July 21st, 2009
12:59 pm
RB FROM GWINNETT
WHY YOU LYING LITTLE CUP o’GUANO…..
I never have and never would celebrate ANYBODY’S death.
In fact I would suggest that unless you can find some proof other wise – which is certainly impossible- you should just retire from this blog!
In fact I’ll go stronger….
I CHALLENGE YOU
RB from GWINNETT to post anything ever were I celebrated the death
of an American soldier….
AND
If you can’t find it, you find yourself someplace else to blog.
K?
PS You really are low to say something like that and then weasle around about not having the time to do your homework.
Normal
July 21st, 2009
1:00 pm
mini mi-mi
July 21st, 2009
12:54 pm
————
Somewhere in Second Peter, when asked when will Christ return,
he said “to G-d, a day is like a thousand years”. Now my question would be if it’s true for the end of time, why wouldn’t it be true for the beginning? What I’m saying is they just don’t get it.
an aside, on the fouth day, G-d said let there be light. “Now duty electrician, lay to the quarterdeck”…
dontcha think the CIA has dug into this?
July 21st, 2009
1:02 pm
I mean really – CIA, Cheney, Hillary, Bill, Bush, Rove, McCain… dontcha think that these guys dug into this issue BEFORE the election?
Really now – I cannot see that these political machines, with access to the CIA, would’ve let this escape them as Obama took the lead in the polls.
c’mon people
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
July 21st, 2009
1:02 pm
Obozo likes fatbody women, ew!-
Critics Slam Overweight Surgeon General Pick, Regina Benjamin, Leading Experts Say Dr. Benjamin, Though Stellar Nominee, Gives Wrong Message
And ugly too!
She does look better than Idi Amin, though, just sayin….
Gandalf, the White! (Shiek Abooty)
July 21st, 2009
1:03 pm
Copywrong doesn’t work, has never been on a date with a member of a sex he likes (he sounds gay, but I don’t want to presume or judge), lives in his mom’s basement and didn’t register to vote. He gets emails from the DNC every morning then put his silly sacrosant twist to it then annoys bloggers from here to San Francisco. Most of you liberal types I respect, not so Copywrong. He’s an idiot!
Finn McCool
July 21st, 2009
1:04 pm
The stats say there are 2.1 billion christians.
If I could just get each of them to send me 1 US dollar, God said he will spare my life.
Now, my gentle flock, I must appease to your kinder nature so that I might be able to continue serving you and the Lord. Just send your check (and yes, it can be for more than $1 if you so choose) to the address below:
Finn mcCool
McCools Trailer Park
2nd on the Right
Rome, GA
Turd Ferguson
July 21st, 2009
1:05 pm
Dr Benjamin…LOL. Obama plays on us yet another joke.
Chris Salzmann
July 21st, 2009
1:05 pm
I Report
You Whine 
July 21st, 2009 1:02 pm SAID: Obozo likes fatbody women, ew!-
Critics Slam Overweight Surgeon General Pick, Regina Benjamin, Leading Experts Say Dr. Benjamin, Though Stellar Nominee, Gives Wrong Message And ugly too!
She does look better than Idi Amin, though, just sayin….
CHRIS SAYS: That’s a pretty nasty and racist thing to say. Isn’t it time for Bookman to ban your sorry ass again?
Gandalf, the White! (Shiek Abooty)
July 21st, 2009
1:06 pm
Lovely Liz are you suggesting the the Democrats that ran the South after reconstruction treated the former slaves better than the CSA? Had Lincoln lived it may have been different, but all the Civil War did was move former slaves from slavery to poverty.
DB, Gwinnettian
July 21st, 2009
1:06 pm
but the tally was brought forth daily to support the left’s anti-war movement. Would you accept the word “exploit”.
By some? Sure! You’re going to get bozos and jerks in any movement, including the anti-war left.
RB was posting as if my support of such bozo-osity was something that was so forthright, it was still ringing in his ears, and if that were the case he’d surely have cites at the ready.
Norboert
July 21st, 2009
1:08 pm
So are all you “birthers” going to leave the GOP now, since it’s obvious the republicans would’ve had to colluded with Obama to suppress this birth certificate information?
What party are y’all gonna join?
Bosch
July 21st, 2009
1:08 pm
RB,
You really have backed yourself into a corner with this one.
Gandalf, the White! (Shiek Abooty)
July 21st, 2009
1:09 pm
Finn! You sound like Barry selling his Fascist take over of Health Care. Good Luck and my dollar is on the way. Oh and 1 billion of that 2.1 billion is Catholic, not Christian, and I don’t count the Mormons either.
Turd Ferguson
July 21st, 2009
1:10 pm
Plus she graduated from the diploma mill that is Morehouse…LOL.
Bosch
July 21st, 2009
1:10 pm
Gandalf,
What about Episcopalians? Do we count as Christians?
Finn McCool
July 21st, 2009
1:11 pm
You see folks, we could only bitch and moan about the war while Bush was in office knowing full well he had no plans (no concept…the thought never even entered his mind) of ever leaving.
We won the election and our Kenyan (hehehe, rub yer noses in the salt) is in the White House sooooo now our concern shifts to how best to extract us from that stupid undertaking by doing the least harm to the rest of the civilian population of Iraq than we have already done.
Normal
July 21st, 2009
1:12 pm
Gandie, Study your history…Catholics were the first Christians, everybody else are just followers,
Paul
July 21st, 2009
1:12 pm
Greg
If oil was our objective (even though we could buy all we wanted, prices were low) and we wanted to take over a country, Iraq was a pretty dumb move for several reasons. Venezuela would’ve been a much better target. IF we wanted to take over a country solely for their oil.
We didn’t quash them?
OBL was on the radio in Tora Bora, pleading for the fighters //and their wives and kids// to sacrifice themselves so they could escape. They fled to Pakistan. The gov’t of Afghanistan was destroyed and we installed a new one.
Now AQ’s base is Pakistan but their ability to launch worldwide efforts is not nearly what it was after 9-11. The Taliban is reconstituting as a tribal-based force – but not as the gov’t.
I’m not sure what it means to assert ‘we neglected Afghanistan.’ What are our objectives now vs when we went in? As I said, the mission’s morphed and Pres Obama’s expanded it. Do we want to keep AQ from attacking our homeland again? Keep the Taliban from taking over the gov’t again (what’s the problem with that, as long as they go back to what they were doing before they harbored AQ?).
Or do we simply want to stay embroiled in a hearts and minds contest while killing as many of them as we can?
See, if this’d been Bush as Pres doing this, I’d wager there would have been plenty of QUESTIONS about the wisdom and efficacy of it all.
Finn McCool
July 21st, 2009
1:12 pm
RB best be hiding under the bed. Mrs. Godzilla has pulled the paddle down from that nail on the wall.
Mrs. Godzilla
July 21st, 2009
1:13 pm
Noerburt
I’d suggest the party they create be called “the after birthers”
Paul
July 21st, 2009
1:13 pm
Greg
Sorry – that was bin Laden was on the radio pleading for others to die so HE could escape.
Great leadership, that -