The rush to throw dirt on the ‘failed Obama presidency’

Back on Feb. 4, a whole two weeks into the Obama presidency, Victor Davis Hanson at the National Review was already proclaiming it a disaster:

“We are quite literally after two weeks teetering on an Obama implosion—and with no Dick Morris to bail him out—brought on by messianic delusions of grandeur, hubris, and a strange naivete that soaring rhetoric and a multiracial profile can add requisite cover to good old-fashioned Chicago politicking … Obama is becoming laughable and laying the groundwork for the greatest conservative populist reaction since the Reagan Revolution,” Hanson wrote.

Two weeks. A whole two weeks into a presidency, and it was already over. The idea that such a premature verdict could be rendered by a historian, someone supposedly trained to take the long view of events, made it even more ridiculous, a classic case of personal hatred overriding analysis.

And Hanson made it quite clear he wasn’t kidding:

“This is quite serious. I can’t recall a similarly disastrous start in a half-century (far worse than Bill Clinton’s initial slips). Obama immediately must lower the hope-and-change rhetoric, ignore Reid/Pelosi, drop the therapy, and accept the tragic view that the world abroad is not misunderstood but quite dangerous. And he must listen on foreign policy to his National Security Advisor, Billary, and the Secretary of Defense. If he doesn’t quit the messianic style and perpetual campaign mode, and begin humbly governing, then he will devolve into Carterism—angry that the once-fawning press betrayed him while we the people, due to our American malaise, are to blame.”

In today’s Washington Post, Nick Gillespie and Matt Welch make their own foray into Hansonism, again comparing Obama to the man who has come to symbolize feckless Democrats:

“Barely six months into his presidency, Barack Obama seems to be driving south into that political speed trap known as Carter Country: a sad-sack landscape in which every major initiative meets not just with failure but with scorn from political allies and foes alike.

According to a July 13 CBS News poll, the once-unassailable president’s approval rating now stands at 57 percent, down 11 points from April. Half of Americans think the recession will last an additional two years or more, 52 percent think Obama is trying to “accomplish too much,” and 57 percent think the country is on the “wrong track.”

Again, that’s ridiculous. I’m not going to sit here and proclaim Obama’s presidency a success. It’s also much too early for that. Six months in, he has been largely successful in implementing his policies — the idea that he is entering “a sad-sack landscape in which every major initiative meets not just with failure but with scorn from political allies and foes alike” just doesn’t reflect reality. However, it’s far too early to know how those policies will play out, which is how history and the American people will judge him.

For example, I expect that in the next couple of months, Obama will succeed in pushing a dramatic makeover of the U.S. health-care system through Congress. Politically, that will be a victory. But history’s verdict on the wisdom of that reform must wait awhile.

At a comparable point in his presidency — late July and early August of 2001, with the trauma of Sept. 11 still looming in the future — George W. Bush’s approval rating stood at 50 percent, considerably lower than Obama’s today. But I doubt that fact was being cited eight years ago as evidence that Bush’s presidency had already run aground. If so, it was foolishness. It was Hansonism before the phenomenon gained the name.

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ByteMe

July 20th, 2009
8:07 am

So which is it: is he doing too much or is he a failure for not getting anything done? What’s the meme of the day for the illogical?

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
8:10 am

“Half of Americans think the recession will last an additional two years or more”

which is why looking to Americans as a barometer of the economy is just asinine. the majority of most Americans didn’t know the economy was plummeting to the bottom last summer (in fact, more than one newspaper ran discussion topics such as “is the media ruining the economy”). the “majority of Americans” is what I would call a lagging indicator.

the economy is already FAR more stable than it was 3 months ago, much less last August when the equity markets were starting their race to the bottom.

there are far too many people on the right (Bill-O, VDH, Beck, Krauthammer and the rest) who have a vested interest in the economy malingering — they will continue to beat the drum on how poorly things are going, despite the evidence that the facts tell another story.

FinnMcCool

July 20th, 2009
8:12 am

Didn’t W take a vacation the entire month of August in the first year of his Presidency?

“Dat dang brush has got to be cleared, pronto!”

I believe he at one point held the dubious honor of being the President who spent the most time on vacation. I guess mentally checked out and physically checked out so, yeah, it makes sense.

FinnMcCool

July 20th, 2009
8:16 am

From the last post: The photo of the earth from space is still one of the most remarkable photos ever taken. Sends shivers up my back when I consider that that was the first ever picture of our planet.

Redneck Convert

July 20th, 2009
8:16 am

Well, me and my buddy Jim Earl and Joe Bill were setting on the front stoop talking about how bad things are with politicans when Jim Earl come up with a humdinger of a idea. He’d been eyeing old Ace and noticing how gentle he was ever since a vet fixed him. Old Ace use to be the meanest hound dog around and was always chasing females and getting into fights till he got fixed. Heck, now he’s so gentle he would even help a burglar find the priciest things in the trailer if nobody was home. That is, when he’s not plain old sleeping.

So Jim Earl up and said we need to get all the politicans fixed like old Ace. They spend half their time chasing women and the other half fighting with other politicans. And to help theirselfs out with chasing the women they’re always talking about how Christian and saved they are. Women go for that kind of thing. Younger men that don’t know no better waste a lot of time building up their body and wearing all kinds of fancy duds. But politicans and preachers know good and well that stuff don’t do no good with the ladies. Heck, just mention how Christian you are and the women will start tearing off their clothes before you’ve innerduced yourself proper.

So I say we wouldn’t have people like this Sen. Ensign and Gov. Sanford making fools of theirselfs this way if they were fixed. All the politicans would go to work dealing with real problems and working out deals with other politicans if they didn’t have that urge to chase the ladies. And come to think of it, the preachers could get down to saving souls and staying away from woman-chasing if they were fixed.

Anyhow, I think Jim Earl come up with a real good idea. And to the women out there that might take offense I just say I didn’t mean none. So I say to @@ and Mrs. G and Midori and USinUK and Sister Dusty—well, maybe not Sister Dusty—I been saved by the Blood of the Lamb many years now and you can believe me and I look forward to meeting you some day.

Now that I got that out of the way I’ll waste a couple words on Bookman’s topic. Let’s see, now, we got a whole bunch of super-rich cos. and people working against this Obama that ain’t so rich and is one of Those People besides. My money’s on the super-rich. If there’s anything left of Obama in a few months I’ll be suprized. He’ll look like the cat that got cornered by a pack of coyotes.

Have a good day everybody.

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

July 20th, 2009
8:21 am

The more that people learn about liberalism and Obozo, the more they say that they should have listened to me.

Told ya.

Don’t worry, I got plenty of room on my bandwagon.

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
8:23 am

Redneck – you rock.

Finn – I agree – “Earthrise” is definitely one of the most amazing photos ever taken.

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
8:24 am

<—- thinks that Whiner absolutely proves the point I was making in my first comment …

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

July 20th, 2009
8:26 am

Obozo is a bald faced liar and only the most hopeless of sycophants don’t know it.

It’s becoming quite clear the the furtherance of his agenda takes priority over our economic well being no matter what he or his minions tell us.

They want power over our well being.

Let’s see how long America is cool with that.

hehe

DB, Gwinnettian

July 20th, 2009
8:28 am

Jay, to your points–it’s not just the NatRev’s pantloads, but Villagers in general.

I probably shouldn’t do this, but I allowed myself a few minutes of monday morning idiocy from Cokie Roberts on Morning Edition.

The Villagers are clearly upset that the Uppity One might actually make good on his campaign promises–you know, the ones that might actually cost them a bit of money, clout, and prestige? Cokie was crowing about some polling that showed–ZOMG!–only 49% are supporting something that sounds like the House’s healthcare package! as if the White House were being firebombed.

I expect more of the same. I never really thought they’d get a single-payer through in 2009 but who knows, maybe some “public option” will be the foothold that gets us there before Obama’s first term is up.

Mrs. Godzilla

July 20th, 2009
8:35 am

I don’t really give a rat’s patootie about the dirt throwers….it is actually their hands that are getting dirty.

We will get healthcare reform this year.

Just a reminder…

Promise Kept rulings on the Obameter

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/rulings/promise-kept/

no brush was harmed by this posting

DB, Gwinnettian

July 20th, 2009
8:36 am

From that craptacular WaPo pullquote:

the once-unassailable president’s approval rating now stands at 57 percent

I don’t suppose those Villagers bothered to point out in their piece, just as a bit of perspective, that Saint Ronnie of the Drool Cup’s approval ratings sank to 35% at one point in his first term, did they?

Brian

July 20th, 2009
8:38 am

“For example, I expect that in the next couple of months, Obama will succeed in pushing a dramatic makeover of the U.S. health-care system through Congress.” Yep, he’s gonna ram it down our throats despite what the CBO says. Despite the fact that it will actually cost americans more for insurance. Despite the fact it will be a jobs killer. Despite the fact the cost will be uncontainable. Despite the fact that it will continue to cover illegals and anchor babies. Despite the fact less than half of Americans polled now approve.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts821
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090720/pl_nm/us_usa_healthcare_poll_1

Turd Ferguson

July 20th, 2009
8:40 am

Amongst other things, this socialist medicine they call “Healthcare” will be Obama’s undoing. The costs will be astronomical, congress has no idea how much it will cost and the taxpayers will carry the cross. I hope YOU are ready and can afford this addl tax in your paycheck.

Just as jimmy carter did, I cant wait to see this guy go down in a glorious fireball of failure!!

Question

July 20th, 2009
8:41 am

“Obama will succeed in pushing a dramatic makeover of the U.S. health-care system through Congress”…Yeah, right, probably more accurate to use the term “cramming” in place of “pushing” — Change we can believe in…

The health care overhauls released to date would increase, not reduce, the burgeoning long-term health costs facing the government, Congressional Budget Office Director Douglas Elmendorf said Thursday.

It’s the most blatant form of Robin Hood economics ever proposed. The universal healthcare bill reported by the House Tuesday pays for the health insurance of the 20 percent of Americans who need help affording it with a surtax on the richest 1 percent….Tax the wealthy to keep everyone healthy.

Conservative House Democrats are balking at the cost and direction of Obama’s top priority, an overhaul of the nation’s health care system.

Gale

July 20th, 2009
8:41 am

Dogoneit! I think Jim Earl had a fabulous idea!

Mrs. Godzilla

July 20th, 2009
8:43 am

For Brian

“Everyone who’s yapping about the CBO chief’s comments about health care costs, should read this piece by Jon Cohn. Another one of those cases where — shockingly — it really helps to understand the policy details and not just the political atmospherics. ”

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_treatment/archive/2009/07/17/orszag-on-cbo-testimony.aspx

in case you need it, here is another useful link

http://dictionary.reference.com/

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
8:44 am

I’ll take your yahoo poll and raise you a gallup:

“As U.S. House leaders unveil a plan to reform the U.S. healthcare system, a USA Today/Gallup poll finds 56% of Americans in favor and 33% opposed to Congress’ passing major healthcare reform legislation this year. Support for healthcare reform before the end of the year is sharply split along party lines, with 79% of Democrats in favor, compared with only 23% of Republicans.”

http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/Majority-Favors-Healthcare-Reform-This-Year.aspx

Trust me

July 20th, 2009
8:44 am

Oh! NO!. Obama is a bald faced LIAR! Arghhhhh. Maybe he should consider growing a beard.

TW

July 20th, 2009
8:47 am

Yeah, shoulda’ went McSame…those soup lines are a ton of fun…

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
8:48 am

“The costs will be astronomical, congress has no idea how much it will cost and the taxpayers will carry the cross”

yes. because healthcare is so effing cheap now.

how much does your coverage cost (even if it’s through your employer), how much do your meds cost, how much would your co-pay be on surgery???

may I remind you that currently the US holds the title for paying the most but getting the worst health care of any industrialized nation???

“The report from the Business Roundtable, which represents CEOs of major companies, says America’s health care system has become a liability in a global economy.

Concern about high U.S. costs has existed for years, and business executives – whose companies provide health coverage for workers – have long called for getting costs under control. Now President Obama says the costs have become unsustainable and the system must be overhauled.

Americans spend $2.4 trillion a year on health care. The Business Roundtable report says Americans in 2006 spent $1,928 per capita on health care, at least two-and-a-half times more per person than any other advanced country.

In a different twist, the report took those costs and factored benefits into the equation.

It compares statistics on life expectancy, death rates and even cholesterol readings and blood pressures. The health measures are factored together with costs into a 100-point “value” scale. That hasn’t been done before, the authors said.

The results are not encouraging.

The United States is 23 points behind five leading economic competitors: Canada, Japan, Germany, Britain and France. The five nations cover all their citizens, and though their systems differ, in each country the government plays a much larger role than in the U.S.

The cost-benefit disparity is even wider – 46 points – when the U.S. is compared with emerging competitors: China, Brazil and India.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/03/12/politics/100days/healthcare/main4860931.shtml

and, let’s keep in mind – this is the Business Roundtable, not known for being “librul”

Bosch

July 20th, 2009
8:54 am

So, should we just let the free markets fail?

ByteMe

July 20th, 2009
8:55 am

I am reminded of Churchill’s comment about Democracy being the worst political system… except for all the rest. US healthcare is the best healthcare system in the world… except for all the rest.

lovelyliz

July 20th, 2009
8:56 am

Whether it was 2 weeks or 4 months, the neo-cons have reach a foregone conclusion that they managed to never comprehend in 8 years under the helm of George Bush.

ByteMe

July 20th, 2009
8:56 am

Bosch: the free markets will never really “fail”, but the poor and middle class will if the free markets are ever allowed to operate without government “interference”.

Trust me

July 20th, 2009
8:56 am

Just imagine what we could have had — John McCain, Sarah Palin and Phil Gramm running the country. I could explain what that would mean to the right wing nuts here but the wording and graphical images needed would surely be censored. Suffice it to say that John would continue to be clueless as he chased runt, Sarah would be conducting daily Samurai Sword rituals on the front lawn and whiny Phil would be passing off more nation-destroying legislation as his own (He’s a UGA grad, what can I say.). That good ole conservative Republican way of life. Gone. How will we ever survive.

Copyleft

July 20th, 2009
8:57 am

Since the Republicans have no ideas of their own, they can only hope and pray that Obama fails.

Kind of like the fat, dorky nerd who keeps helplessly hoping that the cheerleader’s boyfriend comes down with the flu on prom night….

AmVet

July 20th, 2009
8:59 am

Let’s face it, it has been a DISASTROUS two or three years for the conned.

Last year the scandal-infested, bungling chickenhawks couldn’t even get one of their knuckle-dragging darlings nominated fer chrissakes! And had to swallow their festering tongues and vote for the RINO! I still laugh when I picture these conserva-cretins going into the voting booth and doing that!

NOBODY outside of the Moron Belt and HeadRush Limboland are paying any attention to these Party of No crybabies and professional losers. Their credibility after Less than Curious George and DickHead being in the toilet.

And in the ensuing six months since the Uppity Muslim was elected, their malaise is clearly growing worse. Outnumbered, outgunned and with only even more miserable prospects ahead, is it any wonder we see the flat-earth venom that the reich-wingers show here every day?

But I do love the spectacle of it all…

Like getalife notes, it’s part of their disease…

Brian

July 20th, 2009
9:00 am

Mrs. G, I thought the purpose was to make insurance affordable for americans so that more unisured could
get coverage. According to your own link…
-Elmendorf’s point was, I think, more along the lines of “Health Reform Measures Won’t Stop Health Care from Getting Really, Really Expensive.”
-But, generally speaking, the impression of news accounts was correct: Elmendorf had warned Congress that the reform bills he’d seen wouldn’t do enough to control costs. And, for the record, he’s probably right about that.
-But many if not most policy experts think it’s about time Congress got out of the business of micro-managing Medicare. And Orszag was quick to point out that, under the administration’s proposal, both the president and Congress would retain the power to vote down the commission’s recommendations–or, for that matter, make any other statutory changes to Medicare they wished.

Donovan

July 20th, 2009
9:00 am

Sorry, Bookman. Two weeks in or six months in is still long enough to illustrate the true nature of a presidential imposter who is nothing more than a cult pick. His sputtering magic wand and pixie dust won’t get it done in the White House. HOPE and Change are wonderful on the campaign trail, but only having credentials of a “community organizer” doesn’t get it done in the big leagues. What you see is what you get.

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
9:00 am

Copyleft –

I would compare it more to the team in last place hoping for bad weather, so they would finally have something other than an “L” in the column …

Doggone/GA

July 20th, 2009
9:03 am

“Two weeks in or six months in is still long enough to illustrate the true nature of a presidential imposter who is nothing more than a cult pick”

Great statement! That’s EXACTLY how I felt about Bush. I guess great minds DO think alike.

josef nix

July 20th, 2009
9:06 am

Well, I just hope he’s a betternFierce Advocate for economic recovery, health care and foreign policy.

Brad Steel

July 20th, 2009
9:06 am

Gotta love the haters. Their phony outrage and absurd frothing-at-the-mouth ranting is funny.

Fortunately, only the stupid and gullible (the 20-percenters) believe their inane assertions.

TnGelding

July 20th, 2009
9:07 am

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

July 20th, 2009
8:21 am

‘Cause nobody wants to ride with you!

Trust me

July 20th, 2009
9:07 am

What about Palin? Six weeks or six months in, only to, well, you know, quit. Just another way of saying no to everything. Like a spoiled brat does when she/he cannot have her/his way.

Citizen of the World

July 20th, 2009
9:08 am

The people who are throwing dirt on Obama’s presidency had their clods in hand as early as election night. At the first sign of imperfection, they let fly. It’s disingenuous of them to declare failure so soon out of the gate.

Like Rush Limbaugh, they want him to fail so badly that they will declare any success a failure.

Only time will tell, but at this point, in all fairness, even his opponents ought to have enough intellectual integrity to admit that he’s exhibited admirable leadership skills. He has worked at keeping a dialogue going, stayed on task, not shied away from difficult challenges, and attempted to promote bipartisanship.

As a supporter, I’m willing to concede that he hasn’t been perfect, but I guess I never expected him to be. I’m pleased with his performance, overall, though.

DB, Gwinnettian

July 20th, 2009
9:09 am

Doggone/GA

July 20th, 2009
9:09 am

“The people who are throwing dirt on Obama’s presidency had their clods in hand as early as election night”

Heck, before THAT even. They were complaining about how he “handled” the economic crisis BEFORE the election even happened.

Brian

July 20th, 2009
9:09 am

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
9:09 am

CotW –

“his opponents ought to have enough intellectual integrity to admit that he’s exhibited admirable leadership skills”

I wouldn’t hold my breath on that one, if I were you …

George American

July 20th, 2009
9:10 am

Told you so.

B. Hussain O’s disasters are the 150 pound gorilla in the room.

FinnMcCool

July 20th, 2009
9:10 am

Tax the wealthy to keep everyone healthy.

ummm, yeah, that is part of the point!

FinnMcCool

July 20th, 2009
9:11 am

Brian,
Boortz’ swipe at the editiorial board: Did he use the hand he wipes with or the other one?

Bosch

July 20th, 2009
9:13 am

ByteMe,

I was just messin’ around. The free markets have pretty much failed for the lower class and the middle class are barely treading water.

Citizen of the World,

“Like Rush Limbaugh, they want him to fail so badly that they will declare any success a failure. ”

And I hate to say this, but I feel that Rush and Cheney and many Obama haters (even some on this blog) would almost jump with joy if we were ever attacked again – just so they can say, “I told you so!”

DB, Gwinnettian

July 20th, 2009
9:13 am

but only having credentials of a “community organizer”

yep, repeat a lie often enough…

Brian

July 20th, 2009
9:14 am

“The people who are throwing dirt on Obama’s presidency had their clods in hand as early as election night. At the first sign of imperfection, they let fly.”

-Like the lefties did with Bush huh?

DB, Gwinnettian

July 20th, 2009
9:15 am

but I KNOW WITH 100% certainty that Rush and Cheney and many Obama haters (even some on this blog) would SPORT 4 HOUR ERECTIONS if we were ever attacked again

Bosch, I fixed your typos.

josef nix

July 20th, 2009
9:16 am

Bosch–should we just let the free market…

Well, yes, if we’re going to keep calling ourselves a laissez-faire, free market economy.

DB, Gwinnettian

July 20th, 2009
9:17 am

-Like the lefties did with Bush huh?

Brian, we’ve been through this. Six months into bush’s first term, you simply did not see this level of vitriol from mainstream liberal sources. There’s a reason Bush had a 90% approval rating immediately after 9/11.

You honestly think that Obama could count on similar support from his political opposites in the event of such an attack today?

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
9:17 am

Gwenecian … LOLOLOL … thanks for that …

Kayaker 71

July 20th, 2009
9:19 am

Bozo does need to get off the campaign trail and quit running a popularity contest, particularly on the world stage. It’s becoming increasing evident that most of the important world leaders consider him a lightweight and that type of image makes a narcissist even more intent on proving his worth….. unfortunately at the expense of the American economy. He is intent on spending us out of debt. Even Econ 101 says that that is a bad idea. Is that the kind of advice you give to your children? I doubt it.

Bosch

July 20th, 2009
9:19 am

Brian,

“Like the lefties did with Bush huh?” Nope, not at all. Jay’s written on this subject before and many of us on “the left” (whatever that means) opined that we didn’t have a problem with Bush until around March 2003. Before that the criticism of Bush was very low – you did not see the constant hate filled rants like you do with Obama. The volumes of anti-Bush rants prior to 2003-04 vs. the volumes of anti-Obama rants fail in comparison.

DB, Gwinnettian

July 20th, 2009
9:20 am

Boortz’ swipe at the editiorial board: Did he use the hand he wipes with or the other one?

I figured he used one a’ them pickaxe handles his old boss Lester used to hand out.

Mrs. Godzilla

July 20th, 2009
9:22 am

Brian

I’m so glad you are thinking….now think some on the legislative process.

You may or may not figure it out, but that will remain your problem.

We will get healthcare reform this year.

AND

it will only be a first step.

Deal with it.

Gandalf, the White! (!)

July 20th, 2009
9:23 am

FINALLY AMERICA REALIZES TIS MISTAKE! Barry is no good! He’s a liar, a socialist and maybe not even a citizen (no real proof that he is yet). IMPEACH HIM!

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
9:23 am

Kayaker –

“He is intent on spending us out of debt. Even Econ 101 says that that is a bad idea.”

please, acquaint yourself with John Maynard Keynes. Economics 101 says that gumming spending is EXACTLY what you do when consumer spending tanks.

C- … next time, try harder.

Bosch

July 20th, 2009
9:23 am

DB,

Uh, thanks! :-)

Turd Ferguson

July 20th, 2009
9:25 am

Barry – All flash no substance – Obama.

Bosch

July 20th, 2009
9:25 am

Gandalf,

When are you going to start posting as “Jesus” again and posting every five minutes “Impeach Obama now!”?

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
9:26 am

sorry… that should have been gumminT spending, not gumminG spending …

Gandalf, the White! (!)

July 20th, 2009
9:26 am

AMVET thinks Barry’s a muslim? Wow, must be something to that!

Bosch

July 20th, 2009
9:26 am

Kayaker,

So……I see you are in favor of letting the free markets fail. K.

Mrs. Godzilla

July 20th, 2009
9:27 am

Kayaker

Please support this statement:

It’s becoming increasing evident that most of the important world leaders consider him a lightweight and that type of image makes a narcissist even more intent on proving his worth…..

I think you pulled that one from your…..ear.

Bosch

July 20th, 2009
9:27 am

USinUK,

I thought “gumming” was some fancy finance word that I didn’t know. It made me think of those little tasty fruit flavored bears, so I kind of liked it!

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
9:28 am

Mrs. G –

thanks for taking that one … I chose to go for the low-hanging fruits (his lack of knowledge about economics)

Doggone/GA

July 20th, 2009
9:28 am

“maybe not even a citizen (no real proof that he is yet). ”

I just hate to remind you of this: but it’s up to the accuser to prove they are right. So where’s your PROOF that he ISN’T a citizen?

Bosch

July 20th, 2009
9:28 am

Mrs. G.,

No, Kayaker, pulled that out of his ass. The world leaders love Obama after dealing with the Doofus in charge for 8 years. Denial by the wingnuts is a terrible thing.

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
9:29 am

Bosche –

“I thought “gumming” was some fancy finance word that I didn’t know. It made me think of those little tasty fruit flavored bears, so I kind of liked it!”

I’m having such a Monday today — I really should put the keyboard away and just go sit in a corner with something shiney …

Gandalf, the White! (!)

July 20th, 2009
9:29 am

Bosch? WTF are you talin’ about? :roll:

Turd Ferguson

July 20th, 2009
9:29 am

Michelle sings to sweet nothings into Barrys ear nightly…

“Barry told his mama, hey, ‘Mama, I’m goin’ away. I’m gonna hit the big
time, gonna be a big star someday’, Yeah.
Mama came to the door with a teardrop in her eye.
Barry said, ‘Don’t cry, mama, smile and wave good-bye’.

Don’t you know, yeah yeah, Don’t you know that you are a shooting star,
Don’t you know, don’t you know. Don’t you know that you are
a shooting star, And all the world will love you just as long,
As long as you are.

Barry made President, Went straight up to number one,
Suddenly everyone loved to hear him sing the song.
Watching the world go by, surprising it goes so fast.
Barry looked around him and said, ‘Well, I made the big time at last.

Don’t you know, yeah yeah, Don’t you know that you are a shooting star,
Don’t you know, don’t you know. Don’t you know that you are
a shooting star, And all the world will love you just as long,
As long as you are”.

AmVet

July 20th, 2009
9:30 am

“It’s becoming increasing evident that most of the important world leaders consider him a lightweight…”

Ah, Kayaker, you say the cutest, if not strangest things.

Do you even consider for a moment if they are based in reality?

Otherwise you would be able to at least once back up your odd assertions with ANY evidence, data or facts.

So please do provide a comprehensive list of “most of the world’s leaders” and their condemnation of the Uppity Muslim Sans Birth Certificate.

You can’t do it, because if does not exist…

DB, Gwinnettian

July 20th, 2009
9:31 am

I thought “gumming” was some fancy finance word that I didn’t know.

So many punchlines, so little time.

Bosch

July 20th, 2009
9:32 am

USinUK,

Shiny things are cool, but only if they sparkle.

josef nix

July 20th, 2009
9:33 am

USinUK–I thought gumming was a pretty apt term, myself!

Gandalf, the White! (!)

July 20th, 2009
9:33 am

Bosch? Do you really think I would post as someone else? You are being silly! You don’t really still like Barry do you? Only an dullard could still like him after what he’s done to our once great country! Cap and Trade? Funny stuff, we reel in our consumption, India, China and Russia ramps thiers up? Sound good to you?

Trust me

July 20th, 2009
9:34 am

He is intent on spending us out of debt.

The GOP practice of becoming indebted to spend money on giving tax cuts is good because ______.

Any takers. Just fill in the blank.

Kayaker 71

July 20th, 2009
9:35 am

UsinUK,

So the answer is to run up more debt than you can pay off and leave that legacy to your grandchildren. Doesn’t make much sense to me. Consumer spending got us into this mess in the first place. The average family has so much credit card debt and the monthly margin of “being able to survive” is razor thin at best. Keyes is a perfect example of an economist whose ideas are out of date, don’t make much sense in this type of economy and get us into more problems that we had in the first place.
I’ll try harder next time….. thanks for the inspiration.

Demi

July 20th, 2009
9:35 am

Like the lefties did with Bush huh?

Look, Barack may fail…But at lease he will look good doing so…By doing his hardest to turn this ship around. As a Repub, Bush is not praise worthy.

josef nix

July 20th, 2009
9:36 am

So, he’s an Uppity Muslim with no birth certificate on his daddy’s side. He’s a descendent of the Randolph-Lee family on his mama’s side and that’s enough for me.

Gandalf, the White! (!)

July 20th, 2009
9:37 am

Barry the world class light weight! I like that! Everyone on this board knows he’s a silly boy doing a mans job, why shouldn’t the world.

President of France to Barry “Shut up when I’m talking, son. Grown folks got business!” :evil:

Doggone/GA

July 20th, 2009
9:37 am

“So the answer is to run up more debt than you can pay off and leave that legacy to your grandchildren”

I guess you haven’t learned the lessons of the last 8 years. Or do you REALLY think it’s better to borrow your grandchildren into debt for a WAR of choice, but NOT to try to save the economny from crash-and-burn?

FinnMcCool

July 20th, 2009
9:38 am

It doesn’t matter at all what those irrelevant folks think anyhow.

–The party of old white people can only die out.
–The youth are voting with the Democrats.
–With the Sotomayor appointment and Republican infatuation with immigration reform, the Democrat Party has secured the Hispanic vote for Democrats for the next decade.

AmVet

July 20th, 2009
9:38 am

You gotta hand it to Atlanta. In many ways she is the best AND worst of us.

The revered and de facto home of the struggle for racial equality and MLK Jr.

But also the home of radio nutjobs including the aforementioned Kneel Boar-tz and Pretty boy Scammity among others.

Faux wizard, yeah, I think Barry is a surrogate towel-head and all that Rev. Wright church-going cr@p was just a scam to keep the left-wing Jesus freaks happy and the untermenschen voting for him.

At least that is what I heard on Fox’s Beltway Boys…

jconservative

July 20th, 2009
9:38 am

Historic fact – no president has gone into his 9th month with an approval rating over 55% in the Gallup Poll. Not one. As a nation we elect them, give them 6 months & then kiss them off. Some recover & get re-elected, some do not.

“And thst’s the way it is…”

The Walking Boss

July 20th, 2009
9:39 am

Now, y’all quit picking on our Lord and Saviour – it isn’t correct form.

(Hey, psst, Messiah….got any of that ‘free’ bailout money left for a middle-class taxpayer who has worked all his life and paid his bills and taken responsibility for his actions? No? Ah, didn’t think so.)

Gandalf, the White! (!)

July 20th, 2009
9:39 am

Demi! He turning the ship upside down! Sinkin’ the ship is turning it around in the strictest sense of the work, but not what we need. He’s not respected by world leaders, cuz the all know what an Fugly wife he has!

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
9:39 am

Kayaker –

“So the answer is to run up more debt than you can pay off and leave that legacy to your grandchildren. Doesn’t make much sense to me.”

you act as if GDP will remain stagnant. the point of the spending is to boost GDP, which eventually fuels employment (which, as a quick reminder, is a LAGGING indicator), which then triggers increased federal revenues, which then pays down the debt. et, voila.

and, while I’m sure Keynes’s family is wounded that you don’t approve, those of us who actually work in the financial markets know that Keynesian economics does work.

FinnMcCool

July 20th, 2009
9:41 am

Joseph, also note that Obama is a cousin of Dick Cheney. O must be from the better side of the tracks.

Was Cheney’s family white trash? Well, they are now.

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
9:43 am

jo nix –

“He’s a descendent of the Randolph-Lee ”

am I the only person who had a flashback of Blazing Saddles and Randolph Scott (everyone takes off their hat and stands at his name while a chorus sings in the background) … ???

yeah. I probably am …

josef nix

July 20th, 2009
9:44 am

Finn–
Was Cheney’s family white trash? Well, they are now.

Nope, they’re self made! Did a fine job of it, too, didn’t they! Though most white trash I know are better shots… :-)

On the other hand there’s Mary Cheney and then there’s Fierce Advocate…kinda makes you wonder, don’t it…?

Trust me

July 20th, 2009
9:45 am

Joseph, also note that Obama is a cousin of Dick Cheney. O must be from the better side of the tracks.

Was Cheney’s family white trash? Well, they are now

I beg to differ. Cheney is the black sheep of that family — always crying wolf.

josef nix

July 20th, 2009
9:49 am

USinUK–but somehow I think my FFV, yellow-dog Democrat Granny is getting a big kick out of this in the geat beyond…I sure am here and now!

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

July 20th, 2009
9:53 am

RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $16,784,272 FOR ‘CANNED PORK’…

Well, well, they are finally being honest with us.

Better not send any of that over to the White House pantry, we wouldn’t want our little Muslim to accidentally eat any of it, just sayin….

Curious Observer

July 20th, 2009
9:53 am

Looks like a ton of bloggers here are in need of the Redneckian fix. :mrgreen:

Bosch

July 20th, 2009
9:55 am

“The GOP practice of becoming indebted to spend money on giving tax cuts is good because ______. ”

China’s economy will proposer and flourish?

Bosch

July 20th, 2009
9:57 am

Gandalf,

Pssssst. Over here. Are you also “Right Wing Nut Job in Full Glory?” I won’t tell anyone.

Kayaker 71

July 20th, 2009
9:59 am

Tell me one policy that Bozo has introduced on the world stage that has gained favor with the important leaders of countries that are supposed to be our “friends”. Don’t tell me about increasing foreign aid to all of our “friends”…. that’s universally popular. Don’t crow on about his African visits, that’s a given. He was largely ignored in Russia…. they didn’t even broadcast his speeches on any media source. His speech at the Moscow Conservatory was poorly received. Many of those in the audience didn’t stay for the finish. His efforts in the UN have largely been ignored. His request for more troops and support in Afghanistan have played to deaf ears. His policy with the Israelis could force the Jews to take out Iran on their own if Bozo doesn’t show some leadership in that arena. The Chinese have introduced policies to stop buying American debt even though the more debt we pile up with them, the less respect they have for us and the more they will ignore us. He is spending a lot of money and running up bills that defy explanation. And we, who are supposed to pay the bill, should like that? I don’t know where you got your education in economics, USinUk but I’m sure glad you are not Bozo’s economic adviser.

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
9:59 am

Bosch –

“China’s economy will proposer and flourish?”

mission accomplished

Brian

July 20th, 2009
9:59 am

Mrs.G, yep we will get it in the end quite literally. So, BOHICA!