The death knell sounds for universal health coverage

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I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 20th, 2009
11:39 am

Crash and burn, yay!

Get Real

July 20th, 2009
11:41 am

Best to let private insurance companies take the country to the brink. Let them continue to ration care to the insured as they already do, yay!

I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 20th, 2009
11:42 am

I’m gonna get my mileage out of this post, proving that I know of what I say and that I am not a welcher-

By AJC/DNC Management

January 9, 2009 5:51 AM | Link to this

I love thee Oblahmi because no one will get Republicans back in power quicker than he will.

bwa

By AJC/DNC Management

January 9, 2009 4:54 PM | Link to this

I love Oblahmasan because he is an economic dimwit and in a long, deep economic depression, which is where this country is headed, I will be able to buy all your expensive stuff real cheap! XXXOOOXXXOblahmi

Except health care, we’ll all pay up the kiester for that.

ByteMe

July 20th, 2009
11:46 am

In the crawl of the video:

Mass Jewish graveyard found in Florida

RealityKing

July 20th, 2009
11:46 am

“I will not increase your taxes, not one penny.” Obama campaign promise
“Cap and trade will reduce CO2 emission by 80% and create jobs.” -Obama May 2009
“Healthcare reform will not increase federal spending.” -Obama July 2009

Funny how an agenda blinds a non-bias journalist..

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
11:47 am

dangitall … for those of us who are video-impaired at work, what’s the story?

(oi! B-man – have a little pity on those with firewalls)

DB, Gwinnettian

July 20th, 2009
11:48 am

But seriously, Jay, a commenter over at 538 had a very good point I’ll just copy/paste without further comment, myself:

In the cited poll, Obama’s handling of the healthcare issue (for example) is approved by 49%, disapproved by 44%, and 7% have no opinion. Even if healthcare was the single most important issue for every single person polled, does this mean that 44% of the people would vote against him if the election were held again today?

No. The ‘disapprove’ population consists of at least two separate groups.. those who disapprove of Obama because he favors a ‘progressive’ solution, and those who disapprove because his solution ‘isn’t progressive enough’. For healthcare, the latter group may be demanding single-payer and nothing less. Despite disagreeing with Obama, they are actually farther to his left on the political scale, and therefore irrelevant to the chances of anyone challenging him.

If polling outfits would make sure to phrase their question so as to quantify all 4 ‘Goldilocks groups’ (too much, too little, just right, and the ever-present No Opinion) , it would provide much more usable information.

stuff awaits. Later, all.

david wayne osedach

July 20th, 2009
11:50 am

Obama will not change national health care policies during his tenure. It is not without fierce trying but the lobbying against it is too powerful.

ByteMe

July 20th, 2009
11:50 am

USinUK: it’s a piece by the “Onion News Network” reporting a study that children are strongly opposed to healthcare, like vaccinations, going to the doctor, etc. One question in the survey: “Are you strongly opposed to government run healthcare and do you want a lollipop?” Vast majority answered “Yes!”

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
11:52 am

ByteMe –

I’ve always been dependent upon the kindness of strangers … thanks!! :-)

(and that puts “Mass Jewish graveyard found in Florida” in perspective … VERY funny!)

Matilda

July 20th, 2009
11:52 am

Hey USinUK! Can you get to Youtube? Search ‘onion healthcare children’. Haha!

RealityKing

July 20th, 2009
11:52 am

As polls indicate, only progressive morons now believe the words Obama is elegantly reading from his teleprompter..

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
11:54 am

Matilda –

“Hey USinUK! Can you get to Youtube? Search ‘onion healthcare children’. Haha!”

firewall no likee youtube … or facebook … but I’ll definitely look for it tonight when I get home

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
11:56 am

“reading from his teleprompter”

:roll:

when will this meme die.

you maroons act like Bush (both Papa and Baby), Reagan, and Clinton never used a teleprompter. I hate to be the ones to break it to you, but even the “great communicator” used them

Doggone/GA

July 20th, 2009
11:58 am

“even the “great communicator” used them”

Don’t you mean ESPECIALLY “the “great communicator” used them”"?

booger

July 20th, 2009
11:59 am

Real cute Jay!

DB, How can programs right out of the mid 20th century europeon playbook be called progressive?

RealityKing

July 20th, 2009
12:00 pm

I pay $3200 a year for my family plan, dental included. Don’t have healthcare? Get a decent education and a job!!

Of course.., Obama’s spend, spend, spend progressive policies clearly aren’t intended to help people get there. You’ll obviously need some self responsiblity and determination thats associated with republican idealism.., oh the horror.

Joey

July 20th, 2009
12:00 pm

If protecting us, US, from National Healthcare was not so serious a subject, this bit might have been funny. I lasted 18 seconds.

ByteMe

July 20th, 2009
12:02 pm

Genome Project reports that RealityKing is missing the “empathy gene”.

Meanwhile Joey proves a point I was going to make earlier that there are going to be certain people like Whiner who just will not get the joke.

I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 20th, 2009
12:05 pm

Doggone/GA

July 20th, 2009
11:58 am

“even the “great communicator” used them”

Don’t you mean ESPECIALLY “the “great communicator” used them””?

Blah, blah, blah-

http://image.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/9reaganberlinwall.jpg

The Tear down this wall! speech, care to point out the Prompters for us?

duh

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
12:05 pm

ByteMe –

“Meanwhile Joey proves a point I was going to make earlier that there are going to be certain people like Whiner who just will not get the joke”

yes, because National Health Care is the BIGGEST THREAT EVAH!!! my god, people might actually be able to go to the doctor’s office for preventative care!!! talk about a fate worse than OBL moving in next door!!!

josef nix

July 20th, 2009
12:05 pm

Out of the mouths of babes! Cute and a really nice break. Thanks.

booger

July 20th, 2009
12:07 pm

That was a fun bit of fiction. Here’s another. Pelosi says she will save $500 billion dollars by taking it from medicare and medicaid and improving efficiency. this will be achieved by creating 88 new govt. healthcare agencies. the Congressional Budget Office, however, exposed this as fiction and said the plan had no savings, and cost were underestimated.

Isn’t fiction fun.

josef nix

July 20th, 2009
12:07 pm

Reality King

“I pay $3200 a year for my family plan, dental included. Don’t have healthcare? Get a decent education and a job!! ”

And then who’s going to do the dirt work? More “illegals?” While we’re at it, let’s go ahead and repeal the 13th Amendment.

Jay

July 20th, 2009
12:09 pm

RealityKing, I’m just guessin’ here, but I’d bet your health care costs you a lot more than that. The $3,200 you paid out of your pocket is just a fraction of what your employer paid to cover you and your family, and since that’s part of the cost of YOUR compensation, in effect that too came out of your pocket.

According to the Kaiser Foundation, the average cost of family health insurance last year was $12,680, “with employees on average paying $3,354 out of their paychecks to cover their share of the cost.”

Normal

July 20th, 2009
12:10 pm

I can’t get Jay’s stuff…can someone give me the primer, please?

ByteMe

July 20th, 2009
12:10 pm

booger: the real fiction is that the bills coming out of the committees and from the floor of each chamber are the real deal. They’re not.

The real deal takes place after the floor votes when they go on vacation and the conference committee gets together to come up with a single bill both chambers will accept. Everything else is for show.

But it keeps the 24-hour news cycle going.

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
12:11 pm

“The Tear down this wall! speech, care to point out the Prompters for us?”

yes. because that is the ONLY speech he ever gave.

http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/speechgfx/reagan-parliament3.jpg

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
12:12 pm

josef nix

July 20th, 2009
12:13 pm

ByteMe

“Genome Project reports that RealityKing is missing the “empathy gene”.

And here I was thinking he was a wise latina, seeing’s how he appears to be so in favor of more “illegal immigration.”

ByteMe

July 20th, 2009
12:13 pm

Jay’s correct: we’re paying $12K per year for a family of four BEFORE deductibles and co-pays and things the plan won’t cover (like dental and vision). I’m all FOR affordable universal bankruptcy insurance (a.k.a.: a public-option healthcare plan), because as a small business owner, it will lower my costs.

I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 20th, 2009
12:14 pm

These are the kids that want us to trust them with our health care-

Agriculture Sec. Vilsack: ‘Purchased 760,000 Lbs of ham at cost of approximately $1.50 per pound’…FOOD LION: $.79 Lb…

They buy their pork for twice what it costs.

getalife

July 20th, 2009
12:14 pm

68% children said “Noooooooooo”.

Hilarious.

getalife

July 20th, 2009
12:17 pm

Swap those kids for cons and the story is reality.

Just sayin.

I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 20th, 2009
12:20 pm

Haha, doggy had to skip over a bunch of pictures in his “Reagan speech” search-

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=reagan%20speech&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS288US288&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

See for yourself, hardly any Prompters.

He was da Man!

getalife

July 20th, 2009
12:20 pm

Missing the empathy gene is a symptom.

I will explain in my upcoming book to drop soon:

“conservatism is a mental disorder” by getalife.

@@

July 20th, 2009
12:25 pm

Very cute, jay. /snark/

I’ve often wondered why you don’t draw attention to programs such as these:

Wal-Mart wants your rash and strep throat — Consumers, citing convenience and prices, are heading to clinics in retail stores for vaccinations and treatment of minor ailments.

Something to do with Wal-Mart? Innovative thinking in big business?

Gandalf, the White! (!)

July 20th, 2009
12:25 pm

EXPAT: Yes but it was effective! “Mr G, tear down this wall!”

Normal

July 20th, 2009
12:25 pm

Getalife…you sign, I’ll buy it…

Normal

July 20th, 2009
12:26 pm

I wonder if Ronnie’s “Bomb Russia” speech was on a telepromptor?

Gandalf, the White! (!)

July 20th, 2009
12:27 pm

Normal: I am a Cook/Denfense Contractor..I have been trying for almost a decade to sell my invention, the Ham Grenade to the Army, and the movie rights to my experinces over there (working title “Pork Chop Kill”)

getalife

July 20th, 2009
12:27 pm

Normal,

Deal.

Andy,

http://images2.dailykos.com/images/user/30549/reagan.jpg

Yawn……. they all use them silly.

You welched. The bet was for a week.

AmVet

July 20th, 2009
12:27 pm

For the perpetually stupid and gullible that dominate the BSGOP:

South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, still clinging to office after admitting to an extramarital affair, wrote in an opinion piece released Sunday that God will change him so he can emerge from the scandal a more humble and effective leader.

“(W)hile none of us has the chance to attend our own funeral, in many ways I feel like I was at my own in the past weeks, and surprisingly I am thankful for the perspective it has afforded,” Sanford wrote in the opinion piece distributed statewide for Sunday newspapers.

Sanford, a two-term Republican, returned from a mysterious, nearly weeklong disappearance last month to reveal a romance with a longtime friend in Argentina. In a series of Associated Press interviews, he described the woman as his “soul mate” but said he would work to repair his relationship with his wife, Jenny, the mother of their four sons.

Some lawmakers have called for Sanford to resign, and one state senator plans hearings on whether state money was used to facilitate the trysts. A criminal probe found nothing illegal.

Sanford and his wife left the state earlier this week for an undisclosed location and are expected to return Sunday evening, spokesman Joel Sawyer said.

In the opinion, Sanford vows to work with lawmakers he’s long fought and cites scripture and his faith in God — just as he’s done in his few public appearances since admitting the affair.

“It’s in the spirit of making good from bad that I am committing to you and the larger family of South Carolinians to use this experience to both trust God in his larger work of changing me, and from my end, to work to becoming a better and more effective leader,” he wrote.

Trust me

July 20th, 2009
12:28 pm

This is bad, Jay. Really bad. Once FOX gets wind of this Onion network plagiarizing their work… I just shudder to think of the outcry and lawsuits and… .

DebbieDoRight

July 20th, 2009
12:29 pm

Reality: pay $3200 a year for my family plan, dental included. Don’t have healthcare? Get a decent education and a job!!

What about the millions who have been laid off who have good education and HAD a good job? What’s your wise words to them?

Normal

July 20th, 2009
12:30 pm

Gandalf, the White! (!)

July 20th, 2009
12:27 pm
Normal: I am a Cook/Denfense Contractor..I have been trying for almost a decade to sell my invention, the Ham Grenade to the Army, and the movie rights to my experinces over there (working title “Pork Chop Kill”)

GANDALF: That is TOO good. You ARE da MAN!!

I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 20th, 2009
12:30 pm

You welched. The bet was for a week.

Ha! Got you!

By getalife

January 9, 2009 7:58 PM | Link to this

This one goes out to the welcher Andy

You started calling me a welcher after a day.

I rule.

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
12:31 pm

GtG –

“Yes but it was effective! “Mr G, tear down this wall!””

Our Lady of the Sacred Dolphins was an excellent speechwriter for him – she knew his voice well

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
12:32 pm

heading home … ya’ll have a good night!

AmVet

July 20th, 2009
12:34 pm

USinUK, if he ever comes out of his spider hole, maybe the blokes can get the lout to visit and then detain him in perpetuity ala the Patriot Act.

Radio host Michael Savage can travel to England again, after Britain’s home secretary scrapped the country’s “least wanted” list of foreigners, ending a ban preventing them from entering the nation.

Savage was one of 16 people in the list, along with former a Ku Klux Klan leader, a skinhead gang leader and a member of Hezbollah. They were accused of “stirring up hatred and promoting extremist views.”

getalife

July 20th, 2009
12:34 pm

You got nothing Andy.

After I called you put as a wlcher you posted two not pro Obama comments.

Welcher.

Who's going to pay for national health care? Where is it written that just because one is born in this country, that person is entitled to health care?

July 20th, 2009
12:35 pm

Enter your comments here

Mrs. Godzilla

July 20th, 2009
12:36 pm

60 years of working for National healthcare reform…..

It’s gonna happen this year.

Don’t bet against us.

My question…..will there even be an August recess?

Redneck Convert

July 20th, 2009
12:36 pm

Well, I see this dentist dropped some tools down a patient’s throat and the patient needed several operations to get them out and then died. That’s one more reason why I ain’t never going to let a Dr. check my hind end.

Anyhow, this Obama health care plan is a goner. It was alright before they started adding in the illegals and started saying how much it was going to cost. But the real killer was when they started talking about taxing rich people to pay for it. Most people understand that would cost millions of jobs. You got the yacht salesmen and the big Mercedes workers and the fancy resorts where hundreds of thousands of people wouldn’t have no guests to pamper and would be put out of work. Not to mention all the country clubs and private golf courses that would go bust and the fancy restaurants that would just set there empty.

Anyways, if God had of wanted everybody to have health care you would of been born with a little insurance card in your hand. Some people got to die just to thin out the herd. And it might as well be the people that don’t have good jobs and ain’t Productive in this country. It’s God’s Will and guvmint shouldn’t get in the way.

Have a good p.m. everybody.

jt

July 20th, 2009
12:38 pm

Jay

July 20th, 2009
12:09 pm
RealityKing, I’m just guessin’ here, but I’d bet your health care costs you a lot more than that. The $3,200 you paid out of your pocket is just a fraction of what your employer paid to cover you and your family, and since that’s part of the cost of YOUR compensation, in effect that too came out of your pocket.

Just wait to see what your friendly federal goverment policy will cost us all.

And the insurance executives will be paid by you all at the tip of a gun.

Too rich.

Finn McCool

July 20th, 2009
12:39 pm

Redneck, LOL

Jack

July 20th, 2009
12:40 pm

Who’s going to pay for national health
care? Who was born with a right to health care?

jconservative

July 20th, 2009
12:41 pm

RealityKIng & Jay –
My pay stubs from 2008 show I paid $3840. for spouse & I and the company paid $11800. for their share of medical coverage for spouse & I.
Total – $15, 640.
And this was the poorest policy I have had in my 38 years.

Some members of congress are floating a plan to give up to a $5000. tax break per household to buy your own medical insurance. That & $10,640.
out of your pocket will allow you to get a fairly poor policy.

Just trying to bring some reality into the debate. I will keep my opinion to myself.

Tom

July 20th, 2009
12:45 pm

Decade after decade, the same mindless goose-stepping goons of conformity and cowardice continue to establish roadblocks of human stupity and hatred in the path of progress and positivity. These Repug tyroglodytes – every single one of them – should be barred, from this day forward, from EVER receiving a bit of benefit from improvements made in all healthcare-related matters. Barred from all treatments. Barred from all drugs. This policy should, in particular – affect the lives of their children. And their children thereafter. Ler it be thus. Praise Geeesussah!

Normal

July 20th, 2009
12:47 pm

@@

July 20th, 2009
12:25 pm
————
I think that’s a dandy idea and I also like what Ikea is doing in the area of child care. Heard it on NPR this morning…They have a free “watch you kids” area, and you don’t have to shop in their store. It said some Moms just go around the corner to get a little reading in or make some phone calls uninterrupted. Splendend idea. If more businesses did this, it would be like the Macy’s Santa, telling customers to find what they want at penny’s. Both companies benefit.
Loved that movie, but the premise is real…think about it.

Citizen of the World

July 20th, 2009
12:47 pm

Don’t scare me like that, Jay! Not that I’m all that optimistic that we’re going to get simple, affordable health care reform, what with our elected officials being in the pockets of the entrenched interests with their big, fat campaign contributions. Baucus, for example, probably doesn’t go to the bathroom without the permission of the insurance industry. And then when they go, well, he’s probably there to take care of the clean up.

Single Payer is the answer, and it’s not even on the table. But that’s the only way to really do this right. For those who agree, we need to keep beating the drum on this.

DebbieDoRight

July 20th, 2009
12:52 pm

See hardly any teleprompters

Ah yes……the Gipper…….

The Gipper was known for misstating facts, and CBS correspondent Lesley Stahl put together a piece showing Reagan making statements; then, as the pictures continued, she stated the true facts. Feeling good about setting the record straight, she got a call from Reagan’s camp, thanking her for showing the pictures again, because people will remember them and forget the words.

jt

July 20th, 2009
12:54 pm

Tom

July 20th, 2009
12:45 pm
Decade after decade, the same mindless goose-stepping goons of conformity and cowardice continue to establish roadblocks of human stupity and hatred in the path of progress and positivity. These Repug tyroglodytes – every single one of them – should be barred, from this day forward, from EVER receiving a bit of benefit from improvements made in all healthcare-related matters. Barred from all treatments. Barred from all drugs. This policy should, in particular – affect the lives of their children. And their children thereafter. Ler it be thus. Praise Geeesussah!

That is all that most intelligent people ask for.

But the federal goverment does not give us that option. SOMEBODY has to pay for ya’ll’s stupidity.

Gandalf, the White! (!)

July 20th, 2009
12:55 pm

I’ll be glad when you all start paying my health care! It’s damn expensive!

DebbieDoRight

July 20th, 2009
1:00 pm

@@ – regarding Walmart.

What walmart showed was that you CAN reduce rates and create a tremendous profit. Remember before Walmart starting reducing rates on common medicines, we had to pay our total deductible, (whether for $25, or $15, etc); for those medicines. WalMart dropped the price down to $4; and then, lo and behold EVERYONE started doing it too. Competition is always the answer against a monopoly.

AmVet – regarding Gov. Mark Sanford..

All he has to do is to show the pictures of when he was standing tall with the American and Confederate flags blowing in the distance and his flag pin on his lapel. Remember Regan said, they’ll remember the pictures and forget the words……

Trust me

July 20th, 2009
1:00 pm

Clearly, what we need are about 6 million more job losses. That should be enough to drive those last few nails in the coffins of the insurers. Then maybe we can get on a road back to the days before there was any such thing as a ‘healthcare industry’. Profiting off of other’s illness is just so wrong in so many ways anyway.

Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

July 20th, 2009
1:01 pm

One more among a stunning and, might I add, ever growing list of failures by the all thumbs Obumbler administration.

With Obumbler we are, truly, damned if he does (increasing deficits) or damned if he doesn’t (fiddling on healthcare and Gitmo and other lower priorities while the economy burns under the full weight of the Obumbler depression.)

Yet, what should one expect from on so callow and inexperienced, so tone deaf and uncaring of the plight of those who suffer at the wrong end of the obumbler depression, that he would gin up untold cost to take Horseface to a Broadway play – money that could have been used to feed the hungry or save a home from foreclosure.

I have seen the show before and now the rerun, “Welcome back Carter!!!”

Gandalf, the White! (!)

July 20th, 2009
1:03 pm

Thanks Barry! And thank all them Dumb dumbs who voted for you too!
Buy an Election?: $485 million
Marry a Fugly woman?: Free
Ruin the great nation on Earth?: Priceless

Gandalf, the White! (!)

July 20th, 2009
1:04 pm

jt

July 20th, 2009
1:06 pm

Kamchak

July 20th, 2009
1:07 pm

Wyld Byll

Regarding your post at 7:17 pm on Sunday—what kind of movie did you say our president was trying out for?

Joey

July 20th, 2009
1:11 pm

jt:

You may be onto something with your 12:54.

Imagine this:

Everyone who wants National Healthcare, including everyone who votes for the legislation, and everyone who receives a pay check from the Federal Government is required to participate in the National Healthcare program. The cost of which is covered by their taxes.

Everyone, including business owners, who does not want National Healthcare must provide medical coverage for themselves at their own expense. Perhaps they will pool their resources to provide a medical insurance program for themselves.

mm

July 20th, 2009
1:12 pm

You rightwingers crack me up. You think telling lies and wishing failure on Obama will change anything?

Reminds me of an old saying:

If you wish in one hand and poop in the other hand, one hand will be empty and the other hand will be full of poop.

Turd Ferguson

July 20th, 2009
1:12 pm

Trust me

July 20th, 2009
1:13 pm

As I recall, it went something like, “Welcome back, your dreams are your ticket out…”

Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

July 20th, 2009
1:13 pm

Kamchak 1:07 pm

You sly dog – you know what sort of movie – spelling was altered to slip by the filter -

Turd Ferguson

July 20th, 2009
1:13 pm

Its not a matter of wishes he will fail, just a matter of time. The shark is beginning to eat its own guts.

Northern Songs, Ltd.

July 20th, 2009
1:14 pm

hey Reality King, and the rest of you cold hearted orbs on the right – not everyone gets to have a great job with employer subsidized health care – as Judge Smials once said, the world needs ditch diggers, too. And ditch diggers need health care every bit as much as your sorry behind.

Northern Songs, Ltd.

July 20th, 2009
1:14 pm

“Smails”. sorry

Mr. Snarky

July 20th, 2009
1:14 pm

Kudos Jay…the Onion is the best!

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

July 20th, 2009
1:17 pm

I don’t hate Obozo, I think he’s great.

The Republicans have struggled for years for trying to get voters to like them, who would have ever thought just a few short weeks of Obozo would bring them to us in flocks?

Why do you think I do not love Obozo, gitmo?

Mrs. Godzilla

July 20th, 2009
1:17 pm

Turd…..

You drinking your own lemonade now?

EEEEEK!

Kamchak

July 20th, 2009
1:19 pm

Yeah, I know what kind of movie. I just wanted to see if you had the nads to repeat it while Jay is paying attention. Guess not….

Finn McCool

July 20th, 2009
1:19 pm

Last time I was in the DR office the DR wanted to give me a stress test. I said “You just gave me one of those last June.” He said “Let’s do it again.” I said “No. We aren’t doing a stress test. I was charged $75 for that test. Ask me how stressed I am and I’ll tell you. On a scale of 1-10, I’m feeling like a 3 today.”

Apparantly he had purchased some computer program he hooks you up to to test your body for resilience and reaction to sudden movement. My cash isn’t going to help him pay off that software.

Wow, I just told a doctor visit story to total strangers….I must be gettin’ old!!!

Normal

July 20th, 2009
1:19 pm

The Death Knell Sounds For Universal Health Coverage: I can’t get Jays’ post and nobody has brought me up to speed and the above sounds scarey…so what has happened? Has the bandaid and iodine companies gone bust?

Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

July 20th, 2009
1:21 pm

Kamchak 1:19 pm

Why should I as the moment has passed and it was merely a reference to classic Japanese culture. Nonetheless, it perfectly describe hsi demeanor when face to face with any world leader who is not from Israel!

Finn McCool

July 20th, 2009
1:22 pm

bring them to us in flocks?

What ya smokin’, I Report?
You’ve lost the latinos, the gays, the young, the blacks. All you have left are angry old white guys. They are coming back to you alright…with the help of a walker.

Normal

July 20th, 2009
1:24 pm

All you have left are angry old white guys. They are coming back to you alright…with the help of a walker.
————–
Not without coverage to pay for those walkers, they won’t

Finn McCool

July 20th, 2009
1:24 pm

Normal,
the onion news spot shows children getting DR shots and says children do NOT want more health care. ie. they don’t want to have to make more DR visits so they are against health care.

It’s good so it is worth watching later if you can.

Mrs. Godzilla

July 20th, 2009
1:25 pm

Normal

The Onion put out the above video…..

Basically it’s a rip on the GOP and how they sound like children
in denying the need for healthcare reform.

It shows images of gravely ill children with voice overs about
how glad they’ll be when they don’t have to see a doctor or stay in hospitals anymore.

Trust me

July 20th, 2009
1:25 pm

Well, all this talk about health care insurance likely won’t matter for most of us much longer anyway. First, people without jobs cannot afford health insurance. Second, younger people will just continue to refuse to bother with insurance unless or until they get a job that provides it for no added cost or until they really need medical care. Third, rising costs and copays coupled with reduced coverage will finally get everyone else to drop coverage since they would do better to simply negotiate directly with the doctor, etc. Insurance companies are long overdue to go the way that their predecessors, the dinosaurs, went a few thousand years ago.

DB, Gwinnettian

July 20th, 2009
1:27 pm

Our Lady of the Sacred Dolphins

heh. I got that, even if nobody else did.

jt

July 20th, 2009
1:29 pm

Joey – you commented.

July 20th, 2009
1:11 pm
jt:

“You may be onto something with your 12:54.

Imagine this:

Everyone who wants National Healthcare, including everyone who votes for the legislation, and everyone who receives a pay check from the Federal Government is required to participate in the National Healthcare program. The cost of which is covered by their taxes.

Everyone, including business owners, who does not want National Healthcare must provide medical coverage for themselves at their own expense. Perhaps they will pool their resources to provide a medical insurance program for themselves.”

jt replied-

The goverment will never let us. SOMEONE has to subsidize stupidity.

Another one that helps.

I would rather be a free man in my grave,………..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvm6Uv8Du_I&feature=related

Kamchak

July 20th, 2009
1:30 pm

Right—like I said no nads.

DB, Gwinnettian

July 20th, 2009
1:34 pm

So Whiner, want to tell us why you repeated that transparently phony North Vietnamese Gen. Giap quote over the weekend?

Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

July 20th, 2009
1:37 pm

Kamchak 1:30 pm

Nads? What Nads? I wrote that which I wrote and I stand by post. It was a perfect description of Obumbler’s submissiveness toward many world leaders.

Since I will not repost or deny that which I have written, why don’t you just snitch to Jay and the others. It seems that would be totally in line with your character and nature. As for me, I stand by the valid cultural reference that was used, but see no need to use that reference out of context merely for the purpose of shcking people.

jt

July 20th, 2009
1:39 pm

I’d rather be a free man in my grave,

than living as a puppet or a slave.

The harder they come,

The harder they fall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGE4dnrPPZQ&feature=related

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

July 20th, 2009
1:40 pm

I sense another ten point rise in the polls for Republicans coming up-

Obama Will Intensify His Efforts

Hot damn, here we come!

Bosch

July 20th, 2009
1:44 pm

I’ve only read about 1/3 of this thread but I feel I must comment on this brilliance @ 12:00:

“Don’t have healthcare? Get a decent education and a job!! ”

And of course, Reality King is completely over looking the people who are educated and have good jobs, that don’t provide insurance.

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

July 20th, 2009
1:45 pm

General Vo Nguyen Giap, the North Vietnamese general, the architect of the military campaign that finally defeated South Vietnam in 1975, is cited as crediting Presidential aspirant John Kerry and his VVAW with helping them achieve victory. In Giap’s 1985 memoir about the war, he wrote that if it weren’t for organizations like Kerry’s Vietnam Veterans Against the War, Hanoi would have surrendered to the U.S. Giap was quoted as saying, “What we still don’t understand is why you Americans stopped the bombing of Hanoi. You had us on the ropes. If you had pressed us a little harder, just for another day or two, we were ready to surrender! It was the same at the battles of TET. You defeated us! We knew it, and we thought you knew it. But, we were elated to notice the media were definitely helping us. They were causing more disruption in America than we could in the battlefields. Yes, we were ready to surrender. You had won!”

John Kerry’s picture hangs in the Vietnamese communists’ War Remnants Museum (formerly called the War Crimes Museum) in Saigon (now called Ho Chi Minh City), in which he is immortalized in tribute to aiding the communists in winning the war.

Just sayin….