The death knell sounds for universal health coverage

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I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 20th, 2009
11:39 am

Crash and burn, yay!

Get Real

July 20th, 2009
11:41 am

Best to let private insurance companies take the country to the brink. Let them continue to ration care to the insured as they already do, yay!

I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 20th, 2009
11:42 am

I’m gonna get my mileage out of this post, proving that I know of what I say and that I am not a welcher-

By AJC/DNC Management

January 9, 2009 5:51 AM | Link to this

I love thee Oblahmi because no one will get Republicans back in power quicker than he will.

bwa

By AJC/DNC Management

January 9, 2009 4:54 PM | Link to this

I love Oblahmasan because he is an economic dimwit and in a long, deep economic depression, which is where this country is headed, I will be able to buy all your expensive stuff real cheap! XXXOOOXXXOblahmi

Except health care, we’ll all pay up the kiester for that.

ByteMe

July 20th, 2009
11:46 am

In the crawl of the video:

Mass Jewish graveyard found in Florida

RealityKing

July 20th, 2009
11:46 am

“I will not increase your taxes, not one penny.” Obama campaign promise
“Cap and trade will reduce CO2 emission by 80% and create jobs.” -Obama May 2009
“Healthcare reform will not increase federal spending.” -Obama July 2009

Funny how an agenda blinds a non-bias journalist..

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
11:47 am

dangitall … for those of us who are video-impaired at work, what’s the story?

(oi! B-man – have a little pity on those with firewalls)

DB, Gwinnettian

July 20th, 2009
11:48 am

But seriously, Jay, a commenter over at 538 had a very good point I’ll just copy/paste without further comment, myself:

In the cited poll, Obama’s handling of the healthcare issue (for example) is approved by 49%, disapproved by 44%, and 7% have no opinion. Even if healthcare was the single most important issue for every single person polled, does this mean that 44% of the people would vote against him if the election were held again today?

No. The ‘disapprove’ population consists of at least two separate groups.. those who disapprove of Obama because he favors a ‘progressive’ solution, and those who disapprove because his solution ‘isn’t progressive enough’. For healthcare, the latter group may be demanding single-payer and nothing less. Despite disagreeing with Obama, they are actually farther to his left on the political scale, and therefore irrelevant to the chances of anyone challenging him.

If polling outfits would make sure to phrase their question so as to quantify all 4 ‘Goldilocks groups’ (too much, too little, just right, and the ever-present No Opinion) , it would provide much more usable information.

stuff awaits. Later, all.

david wayne osedach

July 20th, 2009
11:50 am

Obama will not change national health care policies during his tenure. It is not without fierce trying but the lobbying against it is too powerful.

ByteMe

July 20th, 2009
11:50 am

USinUK: it’s a piece by the “Onion News Network” reporting a study that children are strongly opposed to healthcare, like vaccinations, going to the doctor, etc. One question in the survey: “Are you strongly opposed to government run healthcare and do you want a lollipop?” Vast majority answered “Yes!”

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
11:52 am

ByteMe –

I’ve always been dependent upon the kindness of strangers … thanks!! :-)

(and that puts “Mass Jewish graveyard found in Florida” in perspective … VERY funny!)

Matilda

July 20th, 2009
11:52 am

Hey USinUK! Can you get to Youtube? Search ‘onion healthcare children’. Haha!

RealityKing

July 20th, 2009
11:52 am

As polls indicate, only progressive morons now believe the words Obama is elegantly reading from his teleprompter..

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
11:54 am

Matilda –

“Hey USinUK! Can you get to Youtube? Search ‘onion healthcare children’. Haha!”

firewall no likee youtube … or facebook … but I’ll definitely look for it tonight when I get home

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
11:56 am

“reading from his teleprompter”

:roll:

when will this meme die.

you maroons act like Bush (both Papa and Baby), Reagan, and Clinton never used a teleprompter. I hate to be the ones to break it to you, but even the “great communicator” used them

Doggone/GA

July 20th, 2009
11:58 am

“even the “great communicator” used them”

Don’t you mean ESPECIALLY “the “great communicator” used them”"?

booger

July 20th, 2009
11:59 am

Real cute Jay!

DB, How can programs right out of the mid 20th century europeon playbook be called progressive?

RealityKing

July 20th, 2009
12:00 pm

I pay $3200 a year for my family plan, dental included. Don’t have healthcare? Get a decent education and a job!!

Of course.., Obama’s spend, spend, spend progressive policies clearly aren’t intended to help people get there. You’ll obviously need some self responsiblity and determination thats associated with republican idealism.., oh the horror.

Joey

July 20th, 2009
12:00 pm

If protecting us, US, from National Healthcare was not so serious a subject, this bit might have been funny. I lasted 18 seconds.

ByteMe

July 20th, 2009
12:02 pm

Genome Project reports that RealityKing is missing the “empathy gene”.

Meanwhile Joey proves a point I was going to make earlier that there are going to be certain people like Whiner who just will not get the joke.

I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 20th, 2009
12:05 pm

Doggone/GA

July 20th, 2009
11:58 am

“even the “great communicator” used them”

Don’t you mean ESPECIALLY “the “great communicator” used them””?

Blah, blah, blah-

http://image.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/9reaganberlinwall.jpg

The Tear down this wall! speech, care to point out the Prompters for us?

duh

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
12:05 pm

ByteMe –

“Meanwhile Joey proves a point I was going to make earlier that there are going to be certain people like Whiner who just will not get the joke”

yes, because National Health Care is the BIGGEST THREAT EVAH!!! my god, people might actually be able to go to the doctor’s office for preventative care!!! talk about a fate worse than OBL moving in next door!!!

josef nix

July 20th, 2009
12:05 pm

Out of the mouths of babes! Cute and a really nice break. Thanks.

booger

July 20th, 2009
12:07 pm

That was a fun bit of fiction. Here’s another. Pelosi says she will save $500 billion dollars by taking it from medicare and medicaid and improving efficiency. this will be achieved by creating 88 new govt. healthcare agencies. the Congressional Budget Office, however, exposed this as fiction and said the plan had no savings, and cost were underestimated.

Isn’t fiction fun.

josef nix

July 20th, 2009
12:07 pm

Reality King

“I pay $3200 a year for my family plan, dental included. Don’t have healthcare? Get a decent education and a job!! ”

And then who’s going to do the dirt work? More “illegals?” While we’re at it, let’s go ahead and repeal the 13th Amendment.

Jay

July 20th, 2009
12:09 pm

RealityKing, I’m just guessin’ here, but I’d bet your health care costs you a lot more than that. The $3,200 you paid out of your pocket is just a fraction of what your employer paid to cover you and your family, and since that’s part of the cost of YOUR compensation, in effect that too came out of your pocket.

According to the Kaiser Foundation, the average cost of family health insurance last year was $12,680, “with employees on average paying $3,354 out of their paychecks to cover their share of the cost.”

Normal

July 20th, 2009
12:10 pm

I can’t get Jay’s stuff…can someone give me the primer, please?

ByteMe

July 20th, 2009
12:10 pm

booger: the real fiction is that the bills coming out of the committees and from the floor of each chamber are the real deal. They’re not.

The real deal takes place after the floor votes when they go on vacation and the conference committee gets together to come up with a single bill both chambers will accept. Everything else is for show.

But it keeps the 24-hour news cycle going.

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
12:11 pm

“The Tear down this wall! speech, care to point out the Prompters for us?”

yes. because that is the ONLY speech he ever gave.

http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/speechgfx/reagan-parliament3.jpg

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
12:12 pm

josef nix

July 20th, 2009
12:13 pm

ByteMe

“Genome Project reports that RealityKing is missing the “empathy gene”.

And here I was thinking he was a wise latina, seeing’s how he appears to be so in favor of more “illegal immigration.”

ByteMe

July 20th, 2009
12:13 pm

Jay’s correct: we’re paying $12K per year for a family of four BEFORE deductibles and co-pays and things the plan won’t cover (like dental and vision). I’m all FOR affordable universal bankruptcy insurance (a.k.a.: a public-option healthcare plan), because as a small business owner, it will lower my costs.

I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 20th, 2009
12:14 pm

These are the kids that want us to trust them with our health care-

Agriculture Sec. Vilsack: ‘Purchased 760,000 Lbs of ham at cost of approximately $1.50 per pound’…FOOD LION: $.79 Lb…

They buy their pork for twice what it costs.

getalife

July 20th, 2009
12:14 pm

68% children said “Noooooooooo”.

Hilarious.

getalife

July 20th, 2009
12:17 pm

Swap those kids for cons and the story is reality.

Just sayin.

I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 20th, 2009
12:20 pm

Haha, doggy had to skip over a bunch of pictures in his “Reagan speech” search-

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=reagan%20speech&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS288US288&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

See for yourself, hardly any Prompters.

He was da Man!

getalife

July 20th, 2009
12:20 pm

Missing the empathy gene is a symptom.

I will explain in my upcoming book to drop soon:

“conservatism is a mental disorder” by getalife.

@@

July 20th, 2009
12:25 pm

Very cute, jay. /snark/

I’ve often wondered why you don’t draw attention to programs such as these:

Wal-Mart wants your rash and strep throat — Consumers, citing convenience and prices, are heading to clinics in retail stores for vaccinations and treatment of minor ailments.

Something to do with Wal-Mart? Innovative thinking in big business?

Gandalf, the White! (!)

July 20th, 2009
12:25 pm

EXPAT: Yes but it was effective! “Mr G, tear down this wall!”

Normal

July 20th, 2009
12:25 pm

Getalife…you sign, I’ll buy it…

Normal

July 20th, 2009
12:26 pm

I wonder if Ronnie’s “Bomb Russia” speech was on a telepromptor?

Gandalf, the White! (!)

July 20th, 2009
12:27 pm

Normal: I am a Cook/Denfense Contractor..I have been trying for almost a decade to sell my invention, the Ham Grenade to the Army, and the movie rights to my experinces over there (working title “Pork Chop Kill”)

getalife

July 20th, 2009
12:27 pm

Normal,

Deal.

Andy,

http://images2.dailykos.com/images/user/30549/reagan.jpg

Yawn……. they all use them silly.

You welched. The bet was for a week.

AmVet

July 20th, 2009
12:27 pm

For the perpetually stupid and gullible that dominate the BSGOP:

South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, still clinging to office after admitting to an extramarital affair, wrote in an opinion piece released Sunday that God will change him so he can emerge from the scandal a more humble and effective leader.

“(W)hile none of us has the chance to attend our own funeral, in many ways I feel like I was at my own in the past weeks, and surprisingly I am thankful for the perspective it has afforded,” Sanford wrote in the opinion piece distributed statewide for Sunday newspapers.

Sanford, a two-term Republican, returned from a mysterious, nearly weeklong disappearance last month to reveal a romance with a longtime friend in Argentina. In a series of Associated Press interviews, he described the woman as his “soul mate” but said he would work to repair his relationship with his wife, Jenny, the mother of their four sons.

Some lawmakers have called for Sanford to resign, and one state senator plans hearings on whether state money was used to facilitate the trysts. A criminal probe found nothing illegal.

Sanford and his wife left the state earlier this week for an undisclosed location and are expected to return Sunday evening, spokesman Joel Sawyer said.

In the opinion, Sanford vows to work with lawmakers he’s long fought and cites scripture and his faith in God — just as he’s done in his few public appearances since admitting the affair.

“It’s in the spirit of making good from bad that I am committing to you and the larger family of South Carolinians to use this experience to both trust God in his larger work of changing me, and from my end, to work to becoming a better and more effective leader,” he wrote.

Trust me

July 20th, 2009
12:28 pm

This is bad, Jay. Really bad. Once FOX gets wind of this Onion network plagiarizing their work… I just shudder to think of the outcry and lawsuits and… .

DebbieDoRight

July 20th, 2009
12:29 pm

Reality: pay $3200 a year for my family plan, dental included. Don’t have healthcare? Get a decent education and a job!!

What about the millions who have been laid off who have good education and HAD a good job? What’s your wise words to them?

Normal

July 20th, 2009
12:30 pm

Gandalf, the White! (!)

July 20th, 2009
12:27 pm
Normal: I am a Cook/Denfense Contractor..I have been trying for almost a decade to sell my invention, the Ham Grenade to the Army, and the movie rights to my experinces over there (working title “Pork Chop Kill”)

GANDALF: That is TOO good. You ARE da MAN!!

I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 20th, 2009
12:30 pm

You welched. The bet was for a week.

Ha! Got you!

By getalife

January 9, 2009 7:58 PM | Link to this

This one goes out to the welcher Andy

You started calling me a welcher after a day.

I rule.

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
12:31 pm

GtG –

“Yes but it was effective! “Mr G, tear down this wall!””

Our Lady of the Sacred Dolphins was an excellent speechwriter for him – she knew his voice well

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
12:32 pm

heading home … ya’ll have a good night!

AmVet

July 20th, 2009
12:34 pm

USinUK, if he ever comes out of his spider hole, maybe the blokes can get the lout to visit and then detain him in perpetuity ala the Patriot Act.

Radio host Michael Savage can travel to England again, after Britain’s home secretary scrapped the country’s “least wanted” list of foreigners, ending a ban preventing them from entering the nation.

Savage was one of 16 people in the list, along with former a Ku Klux Klan leader, a skinhead gang leader and a member of Hezbollah. They were accused of “stirring up hatred and promoting extremist views.”