“One small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind”

Where were you when Apollo 11 landed on the surface of the moon the night of July 20, 1969? What do you recall about that moment, and about those times?

I was just a kid, living at the time on Cape Cod, where my father was stationed. I stayed up late to watch the moment with my mom, along with Walter Cronkite no doubt, and the moon never looked the same to me afterward. Even now, it’s a little strange to look up and think that men once walked its surface.

Of course, a lot of Americans weren’t even alive back then and thus have no memory of it. So I’d also be curious about their perceptions of the space program and the moonshot. Is it just an obsession from another era, like Hula Hoops and peace signs? Or is it a more lasting achievement, an actual “giant leap for mankind” that deserved the hoopla it generates?

UPDATE: You’ll see a lot of press coverage today on the moon shot, and for good reason. But at Time magazine, Jeffrey Kluger has a nicely done feature on the “moon walkers,” the roughly two dozen men who actually walked the lunar surface and then returned to an earthbound existence.

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TnGelding

July 19th, 2009
3:46 pm

I don’t even remember what I was doing, so I must have been working. It was certainly a big deal then, but I see no need to go back. We need to concentrate on preserving this planet and its inhabitants.

ByteMe

July 19th, 2009
3:52 pm

I think we need to go further. Our small step was all we took. We need to go much much further in the next 40 years before we add another 6 billion people to this planet.

The space program has been an amazing testbed of futuristic achievements and we’ve done ourselves a disservice by abandoning our goal of “reaching for the stars”.

RW-(the original)

July 19th, 2009
3:54 pm

Off topic

Kamchak,

Click on tools then options then advanced. You should see a box that says “check my spelling as I type” or something like that. Check that box and then spelling errors will be underlined in red when you type them.

RW-(the original)

July 19th, 2009
3:59 pm

N-GA

July 19th, 2009
4:10 pm

I was finishing up basic training and wondering how we could send men to the moon, but couldn’t achieve peace on Earth…..

md

July 19th, 2009
4:58 pm

“but couldn’t achieve peace on Earth…..”

There hasn’t been peace on Earth since the dawn of man, man being the root of all problems and the weak link.

And since we keep advancing medicine, fighting wars with machines, etc, we best find another planet to support all these people we aren’t letting die.

Redneck Convert

July 19th, 2009
5:04 pm

Well, the Rev. Jim Bob Buice always said this moon landing was a big fake and I beleive him. They done it all on a Hollywood set and used talcum powder to make the footprints come out. Trouble is, they filmed it pretty bad and somebody had to re-do it recently. Later they done another fake landing and brought back some rocks they found on the side of a mountain in Wyoming. People still fall for it.

Anyhow, we’ve had nothing but bad luck ever since they done it. A little later along come the Carter years and we run out of gas and had high rates for loans. If it wasn’t for Reagan coming along we might of been bought out by China or Russia. We were in debt for a long time till a Republican Congress balanced the budget in spite of Clinton.

I’m real sorry to hear about Walter Cronkite dying and all but we got to tell the truth irregardless. He was part of the fake and you can’t deny it. He was right there on TV and there’s film of him doing it. Have a good night everybody. See you in the morning.

I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 19th, 2009
5:32 pm

George American

July 19th, 2009
5:36 pm

I was celebrating the wonderful accomplishments and freedom of America by beating up some hippie war protestors and complaining about the government.

TnGelding

July 19th, 2009
5:41 pm

md

July 19th, 2009
4:58 pm

ZPG!

http://www.overpopulation.net/

I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 19th, 2009
5:42 pm

In 1969, NASA’s budget was 4.2 billion dollars and they performed a feat unrivaled in world history.

In 2008, NASA’s budget was 17.8 billion and they blew smoke up al-Gore’s as-s.

We’ve come a lllooooonnnnnng way, baby.

Northern Songs LTD

July 19th, 2009
5:59 pm

IR/YW: You can be a major “richard-head”, but that 5:32 was pretty funny.

George American

July 19th, 2009
6:03 pm

MOON LANDING – a conspiracy. nothing but government (NASA) propaganda. only believed by gullible leftwing rubes

GLOBAL WARMING – a conspiracy. nothing but government (NASA) propaganda. only believed by gullible leftwing rubes

TnGelding

July 19th, 2009
6:05 pm

I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 19th, 2009
5:42 pm

And most of it under Republican “leadership.”

http://www.cato.org/pubs/tbb/tbb-0510-26.pdf

Kamchak

July 19th, 2009
6:09 pm

RW

If you are around—thanks for the tip about Firefox.

Trust me

July 19th, 2009
6:09 pm

TnGelding

July 19th, 2009
6:10 pm

I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 19th, 2009
5:42 pm

How do those number compare when adjusted for inflation?

“$1.00 in 1969 had about the same buying power as $5.92 in 2009.
Annual inflation over this period was about 4.55%.”

http://www.dollartimes.com/calculators/inflation.htm

SC Birdflyte

July 19th, 2009
6:11 pm

I remember that it was the first time in a long time my whole family gathered around the TV. It touched my life in another way (many years later) when I met the mother of one of my work colleagues. She was from Wapakoneta, OH and had taught a youngster named Armstrong in grammar school.

I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 19th, 2009
6:13 pm

NS, LTD- I was searching for that vid from the early 1900’s of the experimental airplane that hopped down the runway and burst into flames, no could find so I had to make due.

Northern Songs LTD

July 19th, 2009
6:27 pm

On topic – I was at my grandparent’s house in Longmeadow MA with a house full of people, everyone enthralled, except for my grandfather. “this is all bulls**t” he said to no one in particular. My grandmother just told him to “shut up and go back to sleep…!”

josef nix

July 19th, 2009
6:37 pm

Memphis, stetched out on the grassy slope in our front yard on a warm Southern summer night with John, Susan and Benji, John and Susan “making out” and me and Benji discreetly holding hands in case someone was looking, staring up at the sky and wondering what the future would bring, caught up in the magic of the moment being shared with people all over the world, part of a great human community, marvelling at our species which, for all its failures, had in just a few thousand years, gone from the trees to the moon. Just before the landing our adults came out and called “you kids stop what you’re doing and come on in.” We each went our respective ways and shared the moment with our families, hot chocolate and moon pies at my house, each of us with our own thoughts, Mama with her “baby boy” pulled close, stroking his hair and smiling that madonna smile of hers…all was right with the world.

Course we found out later it was all staged in the desert in Arizona, but we didn’t know it then!

josef nix

July 19th, 2009
6:39 pm

Oh, and I forgot to add, Granny was there, matriarch to the clan, who herself had gone from the Wright Brothers to the moon in her lifetime….

getalife

July 19th, 2009
6:44 pm

josef nix

July 19th, 2009
7:01 pm

getalife–read the article. MOST interesting.

Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

July 19th, 2009
7:17 pm

Jay, of course you long for a different era, we all do. An era when we were justifiably proud of America’s great achievements and gifts to the world; an era when we were proud of people who lived a Christian life; and era when we rooted for the “us” in “us and them”. Who, in their right mind wouldn’t want to leave this era when our President turns so submissive that it looks like he is trying out for a bakkake movie whenever he sees another foreing leader who is not from Israel.

G-d bless America and G-d bless Palin/Jindahl 2012 -change that will return us to greatness.

I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 19th, 2009
7:19 pm

There is one exception to this approach to defining healthcare down in the House bill. And it reveals both a dark sense of humor and glimpse of how much damage government regulation does to medicine. While rationing restricts what doctors do in the rest of America, the House bill creates a special zone where the government actually pays providers more, not less. And where might that zone be located? I will give you a clue. It is in a really big state, with a governor who is a former movie star and home of the congressman who chairs the committee that wrote AAHCA. His first name is Henry.-AmSpec

Suckie Face Waxman is buying votes at the cost of your health.

Does it get any more morbid than that?

The “global warming” bill has nothing to do with saving the Earth from “harm,” same as “health care” has nothing to do with your good health, it is all about democrats expanding their power and government’s power.

Just like I said they would.

I rule.

Kamchak

July 19th, 2009
7:25 pm

Wyld Byll

Red card or yellow?

josef nix

July 19th, 2009
7:29 pm

Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

“G-d bless America and G-d bless Palin/Jindahl 2012 -change that will return us to greatness.”

Say whatever else you will, but if somebody had told you in August, 1969 that we’d be living in a society where anybody, left, right, or center, would be banging the presidential drum for a woman and an East Indian America,and we would have a person of color as President, what would we have said?

We’ve come a long,long way in just a few short years…

TnGelding

July 19th, 2009
7:50 pm

Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

July 19th, 2009
7:17 pm

And God bless planet Earth and ALL its inhabitants.

josef nix

July 19th, 2009
7:53 pm

TnGelding @7:50–I can second that!

Just Human

July 19th, 2009
7:55 pm

“an era when we were proud of people who lived a Christian life; and (sic) era when we rooted for the “us” in “us and them”.”

My only “us” in humanity, and I don’t particularly care if someone lives a Christian life, a Muslim life, a Buddhist life, a Hindu life, a Pagan life, or even an (gasp!) atheist life. As long as they live a life that respects the rights of others and don’t attempt to force others to follow their path, I’m pretty happy.

How sad for you it must be to see the world advance beyond the days where international politics could be described in much the same way that pep clubs in high schools described Friday night’s game on banners and ribbons, and when religion was defined as “the right way” and “the wrong way”. You’ve been “left behind”, but not in the way that LaHay and Company meant it.

@@

July 19th, 2009
8:00 pm

Where was I?

Willis Jepson Jr. High. It’s still there…

just like the moon.

getalife

July 19th, 2009
8:04 pm

It is fun looking back joseph.

Very interesting indeed, especially cheney losing it after a false anthrax alarm.

Then the story goes evil.

TnGelding

July 19th, 2009
8:06 pm

2010: A new space odyssey beckons

“The world is on the verge of new manned exploration of the solar system – and, this time, environmentalists are backing it”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/2010-a-space-odyssey-1752287.html

josef nix

July 19th, 2009
8:12 pm

getalife–

It’s not that I “expected” anything different that what we are seeing brought out, but brought to our attention, it must be dealt with and punishing low ranking individuals a la Abu Ghareb is, in my lowly opinion, a crock of sh*t, not that they should not be held accountable for not questioning what they knew to be orders in contravention to Geneva Conventions, but those orders they were “just following” came from somewhere and there will be no justice until they are held accountable, And that goes for the current administration as much as the former and they’ve already got dirt on their hands.

getalife

July 19th, 2009
8:23 pm

I agree joseph but not all were evil:

“There was some push and pull that came from surprising places within the CIA as the interrogation program was going forward, including from some of the interrogators themselves whose resistance to things like sleep deprivation and nudity in the beginning — and when waterboarding started some interrogators revolted and said, after four, five days, they refused to do this, some threatened to quit,” explained Warrick.

We will never see the torture tapes unless somebody made copies and have not seen the latest torture pictures but drips of information is coming out. Add it all up and it leads to a very sad , sick, dark history of this country.

josef nix

July 19th, 2009
8:47 pm

getalife–my jury is still out on whether or not the tapes should be made public. We know already that we have the problem and the sensationalism which would come with the release would do little in the pursuit of justice and would, I fear, dull our own outrage and give out enemies ammunition in the battle for hearts and minds. I am far more concerned with seeing it stopped through, if nothing else, the fear of prosecution. The option of release should be there, though, to put the fear in the current administration that, if the matter is not pursued in an open and forthright manner, then release the gory details and let the chips fall where they may.

AmVet

July 19th, 2009
9:01 pm

JB, I liked the way you phrased this. For both we who remember it as well as those that were to only read about it later, etc…

It frames the discussion in a more modern way.

I was transfixed. I kept thinking about just how badass those guys were. To pull this thing off! And how cool it would be to become one of them.

Test pilots and other brave and brilliant people working towards a fantastic goal of promise.

I will actually indulge myself for once and feel sorry for some of the political curmudgeons and Luddites who will never even allow themselves the simple joys of man’s shared successes. Because that one was a beaut.

Speaking of which, Andy you miserable soul. Much of that expense was to fly top secret military missions. Or did you just recently forget that the Russians got into space first, and there just might be a little teensy weensy bit of military technology to hone up there?

But George Aryan does make me laugh out loud! I mean, is he for real? Or just Wyld Byll’s alter-ego?

getalife

July 19th, 2009
9:05 pm

josef,

It’s called evidence and destroying it is a crime. I do not think they should play politics. I think there should be an investigation but we already know they broke the law. We call ourselves a nation of laws yet we are not backing up that claim. It has international consequences in hypocritically telling other countries to do the right thing.

I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 19th, 2009
9:05 pm

What’s Next, Mr. President — Cardigans? By Matt Welch and Nick Gillespie, WaPo- From a lousy cap-and-trade bill awaiting death in the Senate to a health-care reform agenda already weak in the knees to the failure of the stimulus to deliver promised jobs and economic activity, what once looked like a hope-tastic juggernaut is showing all the horsepower of a Chevy Cobalt. “Give it to me!” the president egged on a Michigan audience last week, pledging to “solve problems” and not “gripe” about the economic hand he was dealt.

From the auto “bail outs” to the Washington Post bailing out, it looks like everybody is jumping on the “I Report told you so” bandwagon.

I even saved a seat for bookman, hahahaha.

Trust me

July 19th, 2009
9:07 pm

A little trivia about CCR’s It came out of the sky:

There’s a reference in the song to Spiro T. Agnew, “Spiro came and made a speech about raising the Mars tax”. Nixon appointed Agnew head of the National Aeronautics and Space Council. After Agnew publicly advocated a space shot to Mars, it was explained to him that there was no money for a project of that magnitude.

There’s also a reference to Ronald Reagan, “Ronnie the popular say’s it was a communist plot”. Reagan was the Governor of California at the time, and his transition from acting to politics is where the “popular” sentiment comes from.

And, of course, Walter Cronkite is also mentioned in the song, along with Everitt.

@@

July 19th, 2009
9:09 pm

TnG:

Thanks for that link to “overpopulation.com”.

I visited one of their preferred site listings and found out that GHWB was responsible for John Lennon’s death. He arranged for Ronald Reagan’s attempted assassination too!!!

AMAZING!

getalife

July 19th, 2009
9:12 pm

Andy,

He is polling very well in Michigan.

Just sayin.

I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 19th, 2009
9:13 pm

Question for the blog, after Obozo crashes and burns, will the socialists blame it on their policies or the black man?

Discuss amongst yourselves.

Uh, I rule.

I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 19th, 2009
9:16 pm

Michigan is a sadomasochistic state, apparently, al-gitmo.

I have no idea what has become of my northern state homeboys, perhaps it has been too cold lately.

Granholm?

They must seriously enjoy being subjugated is all I can say.

getalife

July 19th, 2009
9:18 pm

Um Andy,

It’s the auto bailout silly.

Duh.

TnGelding

July 19th, 2009
9:27 pm

I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 19th, 2009
9:05 pm

It’s too early to “rule” on the stimulus.

Futures are down. That should help you sleep better.

AmVet

July 19th, 2009
9:28 pm

Warning! Baseball jargon to follow. May not be appropriate for baseball non-enthusiasts and all audiences.

Rule 5 of Rules for Election to the MLB Hall of Fame reads: Voting shall be based upon the player’s record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played.

It will be very interesting to see what the votes are in 2011 (Palmeiro) and 2013 (Bonds, Sosa, Clemens).

After all, the game’s all time hits leader, and holder of 12 major league records (and 7 more NL records), Pete Rose, was denied induction for his indiscretions.

I think that the modern era has presented new dilemmas. Wagering on your team is fatal but using corked bats, even once, isn’t?

And illegal or not at the time any of these suspicious substances will imply guilty in our kangaroo court of baseball justice.

Anti-trust exemption and all that…

I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 19th, 2009
9:29 pm

Gitmo- Even after the billions upon billions of the “bailout,” GM and Chrysler still went Chapter 11.

I’m so sure GM will emerge with plans to increase their pension benefits, oh, hell yeah.

The largest corporation in America effectively neutered and singing falsetto, a concubine for the foreigners to exploit, gosh, it’s almost as though Obozo is trying to destroy the US economy, shriek, shriek, gasp, gasp.

UAW, Politically correct Stockholm Syndrome sufferers.

I rule.

TnGelding

July 19th, 2009
9:32 pm

@@

July 19th, 2009
9:09 pm

I always thought, with his CIA connections, he sabatoged Jimmy’s attempted rescue of the hostages being held in Iran. If not for the assassination attempt, Reagan would have probably had a harder time getting reelected. It revealed his spirit.

Do you think they were paid links or just everyone is wacko?

I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 19th, 2009
9:33 pm

It’s too early to “rule” on the stimulus.

Yes, I too have visions of ACORN taking all that money and investing it into a productive American enterprise, perhaps energy, creating the millions upon millions of jobs that we have already lost.

Oh, wait a minute, no I don’t.

@@

July 19th, 2009
9:43 pm

TnG:

It’s the association thing. DU, TruthOut, TalkLeft, Commondreams, Buzzflash… “progressive” site after “progressive” site. There are some fairly legit sites on there. No Fox News though.

If the leftists never linked to those sites, I’d have no idea what’s up with them.

They’re very entertaining but frightening at the same time.

There are more wackos that I ever could have imagined.

@@

July 19th, 2009
9:43 pm

Trust me

July 19th, 2009
9:45 pm

Well, what if Obama did manage to do what the GOP has failed to do and utterly destroy the economy (whatever that definition of destroyed might be given that it’s pretty wrecked already). Will that be enough to satisfy the right wing nuts. Will that give them all the “I told you so’s” that they seem to so desperately need to once and for all satisfy their strange desires to see the USofA crumble into a lifeless hulk. Well, perhaps the right wing nuts should pray that Geithner falls flat on his face as he attempts to convince the world to continue to buy our debt and that he instead convinces the world to dump their holdings of US Treasuries. That should do the job quite nicely. I say, go for it. Crawl out from under your beds and do it. Just remember that over 500 billion of our deficit goes straight to the DoD. Our military will have to do some real budget cuts instead of this little display for the benefit of the tax payer with the F-22s and other drops in the bucket and that suits the socialists just fine, I suppose. You might just need to start up an all volunteer army to protect yourselves from all those global threats at that point. Write your Congressman.

RW-(the original)

July 19th, 2009
9:57 pm

There are more wackos that I ever could have imagined.

@@,

Don’t lose sight of the fact that the leftists devoutly visit and promote these sites. It’s all an attempt to make themselves feel like their little bubble is mainstream thought and it’s easy to get caught up in thinking their numbers are huge. In reality they’re a fairly small but extremely persistent bunch and they have a few supposedly mainstream pitons like Jay B to climb on.

getalife

July 19th, 2009
10:04 pm

Yeah Andy,

They are still standing after w left it for the new President.

The folks in Michigan will give Obama another vote.

@@

July 19th, 2009
10:09 pm

jay’s a volcanic plug?

@@

July 19th, 2009
10:15 pm

At issue is Mr. Chávez’s determination to restore deposed Honduran president Manuel Zelaya to power through multilateral pressure. His phone call to a State Department official showed that his campaign was not going well and that he thought he could get U.S. help.

This is not good news for the region. The Venezuelan may feel that his aims have enough support from the U.S. and the Organization of American States (OAS) that he would be justified in forcing Mr. Zelaya on Honduras by supporting a violent overthrow of the current government. That he has reason to harbor such a view is yet another sign that the Obama administration is on the wrong side of history.

Now it’s Daniel Ortega’s turn. He’s calling for no-term limits.

MANAGUA, July 19 (Reuters) – Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega, a former guerrilla fighter, said on Sunday his country should extend presidential term limits after neighboring Honduras toppled its leftist president in a coup over the same issue.

@@

July 19th, 2009
10:23 pm

On present trends, most of Europe will soon have lower income tax rates than most of America. And now the European Union is stealing another competitive march on Washington, this time on a free trade deal with the world’s 13th largest economy, fast-growing South Korea.

Last week Brussels and Seoul finished the outline of a new trade agreement, and the two sides will now write up the technical language to codify it. As for the pending U.S.-Korea trade agreement, Congress has done . . . nothing.

Across the globe, countries are moving ahead with similar bilateral trade deals, often giving their own national companies an edge over U.S. competitors. In a perfect world, all countries would be able to benefit from multilateral trade opening under the Doha Round. But for now bilateral deals are better than nothing, and America is leaving itself behind.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124804400627663427.html

Letting the rest of the world pass us by. ‘Tis a shame.

@@

July 19th, 2009
10:28 pm

The legislation to eliminate secret ballots in union elections has in fact been comatose for weeks, since Pennsylvania’s Arlen Specter and Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas declared their opposition. So the real purpose of this “concession” is to shift to Plan B, which is to repackage most of what labor wants with new ribbons and wrapping. The bill that Senators Tom Harkin (Iowa), Mark Pryor (Arkansas), Mr. Specter and others are now considering would still give unions the whip hand in negotiations with management.

One proposal would slash the time for an organizing vote, requiring that it be held within five or 10 days after 30% of workers had signed cards asking for a union. The median time today is 38 days. Organizers want the rush because they know the more time workers have to learn about a union, the less they usually want one. Once employees hear the other side of the story, support dwindles.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124804413309863431.html

Labor’s Plan B is Obama’s Plan A.

@@

July 19th, 2009
10:41 pm

@@

July 19th, 2009
10:43 pm

^^^ That’s what is known as sheer determination.

Been waitin’ since 10:09 for those posts to show up.

TnGelding

July 19th, 2009
10:59 pm

Trust me

July 19th, 2009
9:45 pm

I’m thinking all these experts are going to be eating crow about this time next year. The stimulus is a two-year modest plan. The Obama “power grab” is out of necessity and temporary.

Jim Arness

July 20th, 2009
12:14 am

“I don’t even remember what I was doing, so I must have been working….”
Now, that’s typical.
Bookman – you are truly a “Dweeb” in the true sense of the word! If you don’t know what that means…..try Wikipedia.”
You, and the south, are pathetic!!! Holy Jesus Christ! May God help you all!!!

@@

July 20th, 2009
12:23 am

@@

July 20th, 2009
12:32 am

Gunsmoke?

Dr. Galen ‘Doc’ Adams: [Festus offers to buy Doc a beer with a silver dollar that he earned from shoeing horses in episode "Whelan's Men".] Why don’t you take that money and invest it in something? Why don’t you do that?

Festus Haggen: Invest it in what?

Dr. Galen ‘Doc’ Adams: There’s wonderful land values outside of Dodge. Now why don’t you go out there someplace, look around, and buy yourself a lot?

Festus Haggen: A lot of what?

Dr. Galen ‘Doc’ Adams: A lot! A lot of land!

Festus Haggen: Well fiddle, I can’t afford to buy a lot of land. You probably could the way you’ve been a bilking and gouging…

Dr. Galen ‘Doc’ Adams: Oh, hush up! I’m trying to help you, for heaven sakes. It don’t cost a whole lot to buy a little lot.

Festus Haggen: What do you mean it don’t cost a whole lot to buy a little, or a whole lot to buy a lot, what do you mean?

Dr. Galen ‘Doc’ Adams: Well, I mean,… a little lot of land!

Festus Haggen: But there ain’t no such a thing. A little’s a little, and a lot’s a lot, there ain’t no little lot, or lot of little, don’t you see? Now you want that beer or don’t you?

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
5:31 am

on this date in 1969, I was only 3 … so I don’t remember much about the entire event except for the splashdown (and even then, I couldn’t swear that I remember this splashdown or a later one).

alls I can say is blessings on not just the men who walked on the moon, but also the thousands of men and women who labored to get them there.

“we do these things not because they are easy, but because they are hard”

I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 20th, 2009
5:43 am

Grasping at straws-

Stimulus cash saves jobs in arts.— The office now will receive $342,000 in federal stimulus money, which it will award nonprofits to help pay salaries. Based on applications from nonprofits statewide, the money will help save between 35 and 40 jobs, according to the governor’s Web site.-Urinal

8 grand per job, eh?

gurgle, gurgle, gurgle!

TnGelding

July 20th, 2009
5:57 am

Jim Arness

July 20th, 2009
12:14 am

I usually worked nights at the “bomber plant.” I never did get caught up in the moon landing for some reason. Too busy trying to put food on the table, I guess. I did start having health problems some time that year, tho.

Bookman is a competent, All-American patriot.

You do know that God is on our side?

TnGelding

July 20th, 2009
6:00 am

@@

July 20th, 2009
12:23 am

Funny stuff.

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
6:13 am

TnG … feed not the troll

TnGelding

July 20th, 2009
6:15 am

I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 20th, 2009
5:43 am

Do you understand how our economy works? I received this e-mail recently:

Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 7:00 AM
Subject: Stimulus Story

I’m no economist, but this characterization intrigued me.

It is the month of August, on the shores of the Black Sea.
It is raining, and the little town looks totally deserted.
It is tough times, everybody is in debt, and everybody lives on credit.

Suddenly, a rich tourist comes to town.

He enters the only hotel, lays a 100 Euro note on the reception counter, and goes to inspect the rooms upstairs in order to pick one.

The hotel proprietor takes the 100 Euro note and runs to pay his debt to the butcher.

The Butcher takes the 100 Euro note, and runs to pay his debt to the pig grower.

The pig grower takes the 100 Euro note, and runs to pay his debt to the supplier of his feed and fuel.

The supplier of feed and fuel takes the 100 Euro note, and runs to pay his debt to the town’s prostitute, that in these hard times, gave her “services” on credit.

The hooker runs to the hotel, and pays off her debt with the 100 Euro note to the hotel proprietor to pay for the rooms that she rented when she brought her clients there.

The hotel proprietor then lays the 100 Euro note back on the counter so that the rich tourist will not suspect anything.

At that moment, the rich tourist comes down after inspecting the rooms, and takes his 100 Euro note, after saying that he did not like any of the rooms, and leaves town.

No one earned anything. However, the whole town is now without debt, and looks to the future with a lot of optimism….

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how the U.S. government
under President BHO, and the State of California, under
Governor Arnold are doing business today!

(Go out and buy something today! Or hire someone to do it for you. Do it for George Walker Bush, since you must not have gone shopping after 09/11.}

TnGelding

July 20th, 2009
6:16 am

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
6:13 am

Yeah, they get me almost every time.

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

July 20th, 2009
7:11 am

We’ve always had small, angry people throughout our history-

NASA was then fighting a lawsuit from atheist activist Madalyn Murray O’Hair, who objected to the Apollo 8 crew’s reading from Genesis in space.

There just seems to be a lot more of them now.

ew

Ron

July 20th, 2009
7:12 am

I remember exactly where I was for Apollo 11 moon landing, well almost. I was some where in the Atlantic Ocean. You see, I was stationed aboard the USS Ozark MCS 2 which was a secondary recovery ship for Apollo 11 just in case she couldn’t land in the Pacific. We even had a training Apollo 11 capsuel that we would drop overboard, circle around and pick it back up. We were ready however she landed in the Pacific as planned so, we went back to Charleston.

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
7:18 am

Ron –

okay, now that’s just cool.

Bud Wiser

July 20th, 2009
7:20 am

I’m sorry, but the current liberal political views do not allow for space exploration as even a remote possibility.

If you cannot scrape it off a tree and eat it, or pound it into submission with your stone axes and hand fashioned clubs, then it does not merit consideration.

One must walk like their fearless leader, with their nose scraping the earth whenever in the presence of others.

Equally, if you can see it, feel it, touch it, or smell it, it will be subject to taxation.

DB, Gwinnettian

July 20th, 2009
7:22 am

We were visiting a relative’s home and their own TV was modest black-and-white model, which was appropriate I guess given the grainy live footage.

I was just old enough to have become somewhat stat-geeky about the particulars of the Saturn V conveyance system and associated modules and contraptions, so this was kind of like watching the World Series and the Super Bowl and the Daytona 500 all in one for me.

To answer Jay’s question, I think 40 years on this is a lasting moment for America. When else do you have an objective of a magnitude as clearly stated as JFK’s, brought to completion a little over eight years later, live on TV like that?

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

July 20th, 2009
7:23 am

President Obozo got it right for a minute during his recent stop in Africa. “No business wants to invest in a place where the government skims 20 percent off the top,” he told the Parliament of Ghana.

How about 39%?

Is that better?

TW

July 20th, 2009
7:35 am

Can only imagine how creatively FOX and her sheep would have responded to Kennedy asking what we could do for our country…

TnGelding

July 20th, 2009
7:35 am

Bud Wiser

July 20th, 2009
7:20 am

Survival!

TnGelding

July 20th, 2009
7:42 am

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

July 20th, 2009
7:23 am

When you spend more than the rest of the world on defense (offense?) then 39% is cheap. And you know better than I that it is really only 25% after the deductions and exemptionss, and it might even be less with an innovative accountant and smart investments.

Futures are up. Europe and Asia are up. You’d better go back to bed in depression.

TnGelding

July 20th, 2009
7:47 am

TW

July 20th, 2009
7:35 am

Or even the success of the landing. Government can’t do anything right. It’s a shame JFK didn’t live to see it. Or Bobby. Or Mlk, Jr. That folks, is one reason “There just seems to be a lot more of them now.”

Turd Ferguson

July 20th, 2009
7:53 am

I was yet to reach my teens, however, was smart enough to know where the ole uncle hid his Playboy/Penthouse mags!!

USinUK

July 20th, 2009
7:55 am

TnG –

“It’s a shame JFK didn’t live to see it. Or Bobby. Or Mlk, Jr.”

I was bummed that Walter didn’t get to see it … he WAS the voice of NASA and should have lived to see the 40th anniv

Trust me

July 20th, 2009
7:58 am

Why, I was helping set the stage for Obama to become the first ruler of the entire world, Oops, I mean first black President of the USofA. I jumped the gun a little bit so just ignore that first statement. OK.

Rightwing Troll

July 20th, 2009
8:06 am

@@,
Not unlike that link one of ya’ll provided in support of David Koresh…

I’m jus sayin…

electrician

July 20th, 2009
8:10 am

DB at 7:22..like you I was consumed with wanting to know everything about the saturn 5. did you ever build and launch an Estes model rocket?

Rightwing Troll

July 20th, 2009
8:11 am

Off topic,
Some months ago, while the wingnut trolls were decrying the election of Obama and the end of the Amercan way, I opined that not a single thing would change in any of ya’lls day to day lives.

So here we are 6 months later, and on cue you wingnuts are here (still) whining about the destruction of America.

I’m curious: what exactly is different today in your miserable little lives than say 1 year ago? How has this new adminstration caused your day to day existence to be any different? I will observe that it seems a couple of you seem quantifiably happier these days, I wonder why that is if our country has been destroyed?

DB, Gwinnettian

July 20th, 2009
8:22 am

did you ever build and launch an Estes model rocket?

Nope, but I had friends that did, and helped them launch a few.

Of course I built a few scale models around that time–if memory serves, the Lunar Module was especially rickety!

Joey

July 20th, 2009
8:26 am

Probably to late, but regarding TnG’s 5:43 am:
Hotel proprietor takes the 100 Euro and pas his debt to the butcher.

The Butcher pays his taxes (sales, income, property, etc.; lets say those total 25%), then runs to the pig farmer and pays him 75 Euro of the 100 Euro he owes.

The Pig Farmer pays his taxes, then runs to pay 50.41 Euro of his 100 Euro invoice to the feed and fuel supplier.

The feed and fuel guy pays his taxes, then run to pay the prostitute 39.79 Euro of the 100 Euro he owes her. She promptly cuts him off.

The prostitute, this is Europe, pays her taxes, then runs to pay 25.71 Euro of her 100 Euro hotel bill.

The hotel owner is arrested and jailed for stealing 74.59 Euro. He concludes that he should have just taken the 100 Euro and left town.

The rich tourist goes to visit the prostitute, pays her 25 Euro for a BJ in the back seat of his car.

The prostitute uses the 25 Euro to buy a rail ticket to the next town. No one has any money in this town.

TnGelding

July 20th, 2009
8:58 am

Trust me

July 20th, 2009
7:58 am

Wouldn’t he be the 2nd, after ‘W’?

TnGelding

July 20th, 2009
9:04 am

Joey

July 20th, 2009
8:26 am

No, I’m still around, after a good shower. Creative stuff!

It doesn’t take that much imagination to see what would happen in the scenario I presented if the rich tourist takes the room. Keep it circulating, folks. Don’t hoard it under your mattress!

@@

July 20th, 2009
9:43 am

Rightwing Troll @ 8:06:

Not even close. The Waco link pointed to incompetence thru frustration. It did not indict on “intended” murder.

Normal

July 20th, 2009
9:54 am

catlady

July 20th, 2009
10:38 am

Here in the N Ga mtns, they still hotly debate whether man ever REALLY landed on the moon. About half say it never happened; it was filmed in a tv studio. “See, if it was REAL they would have used a better “camry”(camera). They was trying to pertend it was real by using showing us that bad pitcher. Didn’t fool me none.” The other half declare that it did happen and that is what messed up the weather “every since.”

I was about to be a senior in high school (and the next day was my birthday!) and I went over to the leader of the church youth group’s house and several of us watched it together. I was given special permission to go over there (1 block away) even though it was pretty late in the evening. I had to come right back as soon as he was safely walking around and had planted the flag. How times have changed on what some kids are allowed to do!

catlady

July 20th, 2009
10:43 am

My dad worked for the Army Missile Command in Huntsville starting in 1960 or so. When John Glenn went up, I was CONVINCED it was due to my dad’s work! As it turned out, he was chief project engineer for an anti tank missle system that finally was used in the Gulf War! (Couldn’t use it in Viet Nam–too many trees).

D.

July 20th, 2009
3:52 pm

I know someone who was 8 years old when the moon landing occurred. I didn’t exist at that time, so I asked him what he recalls. He doesn’t remember one iota about the moon landing, not even whether or not he saw it on television with his parents or siblings! Is this how bad our memories are supposed to get over time — or does this merely indicate some people were just too young to appreciate it even if they did see it, hence no recollection? Oh, and here’s the kicker: Had it been a sci-fi movie or if there was a theme song of any kind attached to it, he’d recall that! Hmm…

On one last note to those who dispute the moon landing. My local paper carried an article about one of the world’s longest-running experiments, the reflector that is bouncing back information to JPL, a backpack-sized mirror that is still beaming light back to earth 40 years after Buzz Aldrin placed it on the moon’s surface. Whenever I hear the conspiracy theorists, I never hear anybody ask them how we managed to get a laser reflector installed if we never set foot on the moon.

Producer

July 21st, 2009
9:07 am

I was in the 3rd grade and watching it on our old Zenith TV. Saw Old Glory planted and realized that we were the greatest nation in human history. What heady times. Too bad we haven’t advanced further in the last 40 years. That is a tragedy.

JPL,NASA,ARMYJUPIITERC

July 24th, 2009
3:47 am

wow, it is pretty much depressing to find people who believe the following:
1: The moon landing was faked. Do you realize the number of people who worked for NASA? Do you realize that Eisenhower made sure that NASA was to be a civilian corp so that our missiles would not cause space to be legally regarded as “off limits due to a nation’s souviergn right to air and sea etc.” The Russian’s beat us into space with Sputnick and we chose NOT to use off the shelf Army missiles because it would have made it hard to defend the right to use space for reconnasiance in the future. Remember Gary Powers? Well we sent the Van Allen belt sattelite up so that it showed America was to use outer space as a science frontier and not as a mechanism for war. It is a fact that they (Politicians and scientists,military) were going to launch and blow up an atomic bomb on the moon to demonstrate our ability to be competent with our current technology. The idea was put down because the realization that it would only further extrapolate the space race and risk a Russian response. So after hundreds of documented launches and failures by both sides. and hundreds of thousands of people who made everything from the giant chutes to the helium tanks and the Saturn rocket to the telemetry and software, you must either be uneducated, undereducated or something else. There is so many things that can be explained to show even a 5 year old that the moon landings were real. one example stands out: Rocks were used from some remote site? Well, if you know anything about geology or astrobiology or radiochemical analysis, then you would understand how the rocks from the moon have been proven to be extra terrestrial by so many scientists in so many labs and by so many processes that your head would spin. Even glass air bubbles and radioactive isotope comparisons prove the age, compostion and origin of th rocks. These could not have been collected on the Earth’s surface to the amount brought back and then turned over to the world as we gave samples to alot of nations and not a single nation or government has ever said anything to the contrary. So the alternative is that we can send probes to Mars.. We can send one out of the solar system. We can see throught the hubble telescope (deep field view), and we can track 4000 pieces of space junk every day. We have weather, spy and GPS sattelites and none of that is faked, but 10 years of slow and carefully probing our envelope of explorations got us to the moon was faked. Why not stop drinking coffee and eating anything chocolate because the first explorers who dared to find a way to cross the Atlantic and bring back those “spices” just faked it. I will drink my fake cup of coffee and eat a fake chocolate bar as I watch fake videos of the fake moon landing and deny all of the sacrifice and technology that was discovered through the endeavours of those who dared to go.